fury

[clever belfry]

you can just get cast bars from combatlog

[calm quartz]

Blizzard loves using the same color

[clever belfry]

But just disable details

[calm quartz]

Last boss of gb is purple on purple on purple

[smoky vale]

oh yeah

[clever belfry]

Thatll give you more fps anyway

[smoky vale]

green on green nymue

🙂

[calm quartz]

Sometimes I don't mind the ff14 approach of giant orange circle bad

They made the raider mobs aoe a lot better in siege

Wish they changed the ones on red hook and Lockwood too

Honestly why can't every aoe swirly have a distinct outline

[mossy fox]

they improved the swirlies at the last trash mobs and last boss of arakara

they used to just be swirlies but they added the circle outlines at some point

[calm quartz]

Oh yeah, those shocked me at first, I didn't even know what they were xdd

Big improvement for sure

Hopefully slowly but surely they'll improve a lot of the swirls

1st week of m+ is just beta testing anyways :v)

[unique frigate]

Does the 4 set change anything? Really boring tier imo

[calm quartz]

Rampage hits 10% harder

And sometimes bloodthirst hits 20% harder

Enjoy

[unique frigate]

Lovely

[restive granite]

inviting a mage to a key is the biggest coinflip ever

they either pump or deplete your key by dying 30 times

[calm quartz]

Never beating the mage allegations

[restive granite]

its never a middle ground and most of the time theyre crayon eaters

[umbral comet]

guys for M+ focus we should craft 2x vers emb rigght ?

[native saffron]

So we know sac is a great passive trinket for both raid and keys, but how is ritual knife for key content? Ill just compare ST sims for raidin

[runic cypress]

invite mage
See meteor
Think to myself oh no did I invite a fire mage by mistake?
See arcane missiles next
Sigh in relief
He still only managed to do like 800k overall

[native saffron]

I mainly want to know is it worth investing crests in knife?

[upbeat pulsar]

What embellishment would you guys recommend for the 2nd crafted piece. I already got the weapon with ascendance on it

[native saffron]

The armor item with the writhing embel on

[upbeat pulsar]

👍

[mint abyss]

Should i macro my trinkets to a spammable skill? I have 2 trinkets so the timer doesn’t match up to a cooldown skill

Is there a better solution?

[wraith siren]

I am playing SMF fury, is it a good idea to switch to prot spec ? What sure what piece of equipment I would miss doing so ?

[fading bane]

you would lose out on dps trinkets

so just spec fury

for some dungeons you could go prot tho, if you look at loot table

[fading bane]

this is bad, what trinkets do you have?

[wraith siren]

Would prot trinket be a good idea if I am doing delves ?

[mint abyss]

Idk I cant remember

I just use whatever I get and sim it

If its better I use it

[wraith siren]

I checked the best in slot gear for prot on wowhead and they mostly increase haste or have a leech effet so seems good

[mint abyss]

This is what I am using rn

[tardy lark]

you are so real for this

[fading bane]

well both are on use dmg trinkets

so in that case you could honestly just macro it like this to Raging Blow and not lose much

[mint abyss]

Am I doing it wrong?haha

[tardy lark]

my man

[fading bane]

#showtooltip
/cast Raging Blow
/use 13
/use 14

[fading bane]

mashallah brother you will be in my prayers tonight

[tardy lark]

thanks man

im down bad

Stonevault and Grim Batol hasnt been kind to me

[mint abyss]

Thanks

[fading bane]

need i say more

but luckily i got hc transmitter

so i got out of GB / SV prison

[tardy lark]

we are doing 3 splits and have like 2 transmitters

we've been insanely unlucky

[fading bane]

we had 2 this week from hc

[tardy lark]

3 splits, avg ilvl 618

[fading bane]

without splits

[tardy lark]

kek

[fading bane]

just 2 splits and only week 1

[tardy lark]

yeah we've been giga unlucky

[fading bane]

we had 1 day left over, so we couldve done 3 even prob

anlaki

[warm crag]

aagaard

[warm crag]

wtf man?

https://tenor.com/view/hedgehoglove-hedgehog-arici-gif-21931845

[thick fossil]

I'm still sitting down here at 607. Lol

https://tenor.com/view/cute-fox-jump-splash-sploosh-gif-9868262

[wicked gazelle]

ye im 619.81 from 2 splits

but got the trash drop haste mast boots last night which was massive

[tardy lark]

Yeah mb team

[native saffron]

are u gonna use transmitter for keys as well

[fading bane]

yes

[oblique trail]

In keys most of the time it's not that bad

[native saffron]

Deattu care to comment here?

[fading bane]

the worst boss for it so far is ovinax

[native saffron]

Will try

[fading bane]

but its cus we just started too

[oblique trail]

Without a doubt

You get sorta used to how you can position yourself

[fading bane]

if i get GB or SV trinkets ill swap

[oblique trail]

But if you gotta break eggs then hf

[fading bane]

but i wont farm them

[oblique trail]

It can be cringe to position yourself depending on the egg

[warm crag]

knife is fine

[fading bane]

the boss is ass

[warm crag]

bos sis ass

[oblique trail]

It is indeed very ass

And I hope I wont have to prog it much longer

Just want to go fight Princess instead

[thick fossil]

Very much a fan of GB trinket. You can macro it in with Avatar and Reck.

[fervent yoke]

Which boss should I use ST talents vs AoE in nerub palace? Is there a quick cheat sheet?

[native saffron]

check wowhead, the raid page

[clever belfry]

got atleast 2 nights left king

[oblique trail]

Before I blow my brains out maybe

[spare steppe]

Nexus princess and sikran

[plucky ice]

bros how easy are 2 first mythic bosses

[oblique trail]

Very

2nd boss will depend on how you do the groups for going down

[plucky ice]

ok

[junior gale]

Man first boss on mythic has to be one of the worst first bosses they have made in awhile

[thick fossil]

I've only stepped into raid once while helping a streamer. I'll have to watch some guides for heroic at least. Though I doubt I'll be raiding.

[lost saffron]

I dont mind it, I think its better than most first bosses last expansion

It is better than Eranog for sure

[jovial coral]

Going down on boss very sus

[lost saffron]

And better than Gnarlroot Imo

[junior gale]

Nah hard disagree there's nothing enjoyable about the boss besides some aoe

Webs are hard to see. They stun you and are AOE as well so if someone next to you touches you get caught as well. Adds don't all spawn at the same time. Running and feeding the boss is also annoying

Just a very poop fight

[tardy lark]

i feel like these are skill issues moreso than fight issues

[fading bane]

had none of these problems

legit skill issue

[pearl sequoia]

adds not spawning all same time is kinda annoying i agree

[junior gale]

I'm talking about how fun the fight is not how hard it is

[thick fossil]

I'm still of the mind set that bosses don't have to be chalked full of abilities, flashy effects, etc to be fun.
Not all bosses need to be like Nexus Princess, Painsmith, or the ethereal trader in Nathria.

[junior gale]

[mossy fox]

I found the first boss fine, kinda mid

[pseudo carbon]

To be fair some bosses dont even have that many abilities, if u take stuff out it just would be patchwerk with extra steps

[mossy fox]

too long though

[native saffron]

Do you guys sim your gems, or just use the ones wowhead recommends pair with primary stat one

[junior gale]

I would like it a lot more if adds spawned at the same time and there was a dmg amp phase after feeding him or some shit

[lost saffron]

It is definitely not a great first boss

but also not a bad one imo

[tardy lark]

8:30 min first boss is an atrocity i agree

[lost saffron]

it fights right in the middle

[tardy lark]

but boss is ok

[junior gale]

Some grps are pushing 10 minutes

Which is crazy

[lime plaza]

How much overall are you guys blasting in high keys?

People are complaining about my 1.2mil overall in 10s Sadge

Im really trying to improve

[lost saffron]

Depends on key, but like 1.6-2M

I would say

[lime plaza]

I see thanks for reference

(those are my keys btw)

[tender seal]

1st boss 6-7min, second boss 4 min

[junior gale]

Second boss is nice I like that fight

[thick fossil]

10 mins for a first boss seems s little silly.

At least it's not the event they made Sylvannus into.

[quick zodiac]

Do u pug keys or play with premades, and what ilvl do u have

[tardy lark]

pugging 10s right now monka

[lime plaza]

Same.. People are blaming me for their mistakes and shit its fucking rough rn

[clever path]

I can barely get into keys kek people are crazy atm

[tardy lark]

corralling 4 chalkeaters in 7s is the extent ill pug lol

[lime plaza]

I just disbanded 5 stonevault keys in a row

fucking shoot me

I want this key gone

[delicate thicket]

just reroll it or what

[lime plaza]

You can only reroll at the end right?

[tardy lark]

i usually just tell people to fuck off the shards on skarmorak and let me handle them

[teal gust]

Is it better to use Ramp over BB so you dont rage cap?

[mossy fox]

keep it that way so my team can continue to boost 10s for 1.2m each

💸

[tardy lark]

BB is ok to forgo if you are above 100 rage ish on ST

[tardy lark]

thats the freest money

holy

[junior gale]

When all 3 shards spawn on top of each other and dumb dumb pugs cleave em down

[mossy fox]

innit

[delicate thicket]

@lime plaza yeah you just do someone elses key thats easy and reroll urs

how do u even find buyers

[hardy cargo]

Timed or

[tardy lark]

i wish CyaThursday was interested in some gold boosting with how expensive start of this xpac has been

[mossy fox]

y

[tardy lark]

who would ever buy an untimed key

is that a thing

[warm crag]

vault?

[lime plaza]

1.2m each? thats crazy

[mossy fox]

for weekly and for a cheaper price ye

[junior gale]

Ppl who just want vault

[hardy cargo]

Upcharged for timed keys

[warm crag]

how much are you down

[tardy lark]

about a milly i think

[warm crag]

oly moly

[mossy fox]

communities are literally charging 2-2.2m for a timed 10 lmao

[tardy lark]

professions were expensive on 3 chars

[warm crag]

i think im down like 600k but ive been stingy with enchants and @unreal onyx kingus fringus

[mossy fox]

my team's already undercutting a lot cause theres no advertiser cut

[delicate thicket]

wonder when they'll ban a boosting community again next

[warm crag]

nvm im now down 200k cause guild gave me gold ez clap

[tardy lark]

we were just given 500k by guild bank to fund r3 shit

[hardy cargo]

[delicate thicket]

blizzard really just does a ban and then goes afk for multiple years

[tardy lark]

yeah saronite bombs are a long time ago

bro the bellular tweet was based af

[mossy fox]

idk what the communities did to get around blizzard's ban tbh

[delicate thicket]

nothing?

they just exist

and blizzard doesnt do shit

[mossy fox]

but they're definitely just as busy as they used to be

[storm lantern]

In the otherhand, as a double gatherer, i'm doing from 90K to 100k an hour, it never has been that high

[tardy lark]

"group of friends"

[storm lantern]

Wow is in an inflation state

[mossy fox]

nah i noticed there's no community cut anymore, just advertiser and booster cuts

so maybe something to do with that

[hard widget]

There is a community cut

[tardy lark]

something about boosting allowed as long as the advertiser is in raid

[mossy fox]

i know nothing rly i just boost

[tardy lark]

but i've boosted a lot with no advertiser in raid lol

[delicate thicket]

@tardy lark not true

[hard widget]

On all the 10’s we did on avg is like 50k community cut

[tardy lark]

that was the message yes

[storm lantern]

i don't might booster groups, especialy now they have a channel dedicated to them

It has always existed, from the dawn of mmos 😄

[delicate thicket]

This policy update does not restrict individuals or guilds from using the provided in-game tools (“trade channel” chat) to buy or sell in-game items or activities for in-game currency. However, “boosting communities”, especially those who operate across multiple realms, are no longer permitted.

???

it really couldn't be any clearer

I'm glad boosting communities manage to find some cope

and repeat that to themselves ad nauseam

doesn't make it true

[tardy lark]

holy moly someone is butthurt

[delicate thicket]

no

[tardy lark]

[delicate thicket]

just dont post nonsense

[warm crag]

i think the boosting wasnt the problem it was the gold shmovement that blizzard didnt like

[tardy lark]

it was the message someone in dawn got from blizzman 🤷‍♀️

[warm crag]

but they also removed a lot of restrictions on gold trading themselves so

[hardy cargo]

Gold movement and RMT

[mossy fox]

aha

[delicate thicket]

XD

ion called me up

he said its ok

[mossy fox]

gold movement is free now

[tardy lark]

i mean theres a reason Dawn stopped for a total of 2 days

[delicate thicket]

bro

[tardy lark]

wish i could get this worked up over wow gold man

[delicate thicket]

blizzard doesn't pay attention

[tardy lark]

[mossy fox]

my team did a boost for dawn and we got the gold payout next day, nice compared to the old weekly or monthly payouts

[delicate thicket]

maybe next year they feel like it and roll up ur boosting community

[hard widget]

The advertiser that talked to me said his accounts are getting banned A LOT he lost like 40 accounts in the past few months if i have to believe him

[delicate thicket]

and then you make it again in 2 days

PHOENIX boosting or whatever

[mossy fox]

you confused me there cause my guild is phoenix

[delicate thicket]

oh

[tardy lark]

Dawn never went down though

[delicate thicket]

I just meant on some shit like rise from the ashes like a phoenix

[mossy fox]

we do boost though, dm my guild lead for boost ty

[delicate thicket]

dawn came to be when gallywix got blasted

[hard widget]

Smfc, you seem to be very sensitive on boosting subject kekw

[delicate thicket]

yeah guild boosts are fine

[lost saffron]

I have 622 ilvl

[mossy fox]

i need gold to fuel my excessive spending

[lost saffron]

and I pug most 10s

[hard widget]

I can imagine with what i saw u spend the other day lols

[delicate thicket]

@hard widget yeah im so sensitive. blizzards stance on boosting communities is pretty clear. don't have to pretend its not

[tardy lark]

That was kind of a different thing with Gally getting gone though. Beeeeg RMT from our main man Azor

[hard widget]

Theyre getting banned on repeat, they just make new accounts

[lost saffron]

Nah

[delicate thicket]

yeah azor still owes me gold

I hold him accountable for my 500k or whatever 😔

[lost saffron]

its still tolerated mostly

[storm lantern]

I did dawn boosting in S2 and S3 of DF, never had issue with payouts

[lost saffron]

but yeh they could just flip the switch at any point

Yeh most communities do their payouts well because otherwise they lose people really quickly

[hard widget]

Everytime they ban wave advertisers, they make new accounts = more subscriptions = more blizzard money

[tardy lark]

I'd just go back to goblining the AH

[lost saffron]

but the gold accounts get banned

[delicate thicket]

idk what you mean with tolerated. blizzard just doesnt do anything until they do

[lost saffron]

Thinking advertisers have subs

smh

[hard widget]

They do

[mossy fox]

Delve boosts apparently were giga last week

[hard widget]

U cant talk in trade chat without a sub

[delicate thicket]

cant post in those chat channels without i think

[mossy fox]

Was like 300k for an 8 boost

[delicate thicket]

man

[storm lantern]

But my double gathered road ( miner/herbs) is giving me a steady 90k/hour

[delicate thicket]

haha

[lost saffron]

Yeh true they invest the gold

[delicate thicket]

bring back visions man

😔

[pearl sequoia]

NAHHH boosting delves is crazy

[delicate thicket]

that was crazy gold early

[hard widget]

Mordrim talked about it, seemed like good money ye

[tardy lark]

It is

[hardy cargo]

There is a certain chat channel used for selling boosts and stuff can get banned if you dont use it

[storm lantern]

I wonder what these communities asks for becoming a delve booster lul

[hard widget]

Apparently u gotta do an entire application process tho

[tardy lark]

The richest people i know are managers and advertisers lol

[lost saffron]

Yeh but if you boosted at any point most of it is skipped

if they know youre a decent player

[tardy lark]

app process is... uh yeah lets call it that

[lost saffron]

you just get rank

[hard widget]

Ahh okay

Yeah we didnt really need to setup at any community so im not sure how it works

[lost saffron]

I was manager and I am not rich

[hard widget]

Support just gave us team ranks really

[lost saffron]

😦

just not good with money

[tardy lark]

Im talking Splat or Fana type rank i guess

[delicate thicket]

remember the gallywix cuts got leaked

that was crazy gold

[tardy lark]

we're often joking about Splats lambo fund

[hard widget]

Enlighten me

I dont know it

[delicate thicket]

trying to see if i have the ss

[kindred notch]

Frenzied Enrage better than [Powerful Enrage] ?

[lost saffron]

I mean I did not do anything

manager is also different from admin

[tardy lark]

rather not do anything and get paid than do a lot and get paid more

[lost saffron]

managers just get cut from their department

and admins just take cut from whole community

🙂

[tardy lark]

the real players actually

[lost saffron]

Idk

not worth the time investment for the gold

ngl

[eternal sundial]

Alright but what does one do with 9 Gold caps

[lost saffron]

🙂

[warm crag]

buy boosts

[lost saffron]

It magically disappears

[eternal sundial]

Buy week 2 mythic mount ig

[lost saffron]

and suddenly you have booked a trip to the maledives

[tardy lark]

"hearthstone packs"

[warm crag]

have it magically disappear

[mossy fox]

i need a brutosaur

[eternal sundial]

Hooly

[warm crag]

u dont have one?

[mossy fox]

no

[warm crag]

noob lol

[tardy lark]

poorcake

[lost saffron]

I dont have dino either

[mossy fox]

i wasnt rich in bfa

[warm crag]

tbf lab lended me like 2 mil gold

[lost saffron]

I was rich but I was like thats not worth it

[kindred notch]

Frenzied Enrage better than [Powerful Enrage] ?

[lost saffron]

because half my guild has it

[tardy lark]

poorfifee

[eternal sundial]

Pe for aoe fe for st

[warm crag]

was indebted until like late castle nathria

lmao

[eternal sundial]

Buy 400 tokens surely

No external Gold exists

[warm crag]

no i started curvespamming

[eternal sundial]

Very unfun

[warm crag]

infinite gold for pressing execute on sire

nah sire curvespam was fine

cool fight

[lost saffron]

Spongie

wanna level?

[full hinge]

when we craft weapon what stats should it be?

[warm crag]

i need a ret

[eternal sundial]

Sylv curvespam seems horribel

[lost saffron]

Yeh

come level with me

Im leveling dk

Ill tank

[warm crag]

not rn king

[eternal sundial]

Spoingus heal paladin

[lost saffron]

Why not king

[warm crag]

packing to leave tmrw B)

[lost saffron]

Where are you going?

Sylt?

[warm crag]

i must go to Berlin

[mossy fox]

is curve spamming good gold rn i wonder

[eternal sundial]

Schlimm

[mossy fox]

ansurek sounds annoying to boost

[lost saffron]

Yeh I did 2 runs and got 350k

[warm crag]

dunno last time i boosted with a community was in shadowlands

[lost saffron]

for like 40 minutes

[warm crag]

banned for farming warbound loot?

[mossy fox]

hmmm not baaad

[lost saffron]

But curve spamming

is cringe to get into

[warm crag]

dont u need omega logs

or does that not work anymore

[lost saffron]

because most communities have specific people doing it every day

[hard widget]

I got declined for 6/8 hc boost the other day xd

Feelsbadman

[eternal sundial]

Tell them you are on skyhold tierlist

[lost saffron]

I am not

[eternal sundial]

Well jev isnt but spongo is

[warm crag]

i am on skyhold tier list under "find god"

get me in!!!!!!!!

[mossy fox]

i got a gray log on normal ansurek so i prolly cant boost

[hard widget]

Wut?

[eternal sundial]

Bro leaped ontop of the ball in i1

And it knocked me up and into it

Cinema

[eternal sundial]

I dont remember you being in the list

[drifting cloud]

on how many targets does BB become higher prio than /CB ?

[hard widget]

What list 😂

[warm crag]

2

[eternal sundial]

Bro is not a knower

😔

[clever belfry]

The tl

not even on it
not aware

[warm crag]

what is the orange cat reaction to this?

[hard widget]

How does one become aware kekw

[clever belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/whiskers-mmm-hmm-suspicious-sus-gif-11609747178733891907

[warm crag]

i see

[delicate thicket]

uh can't find the ss anymore but the main guy was getting like 60m every 2 weeks. several other admins 30m. more on new patches

[hard widget]

Oh kekw

Thats a lot of money

[clever belfry]

people surely use all this gold

no rmt involved

[delicate thicket]

surprisingly they didn't use that gold on the bmah 🙂

[tardy lark]

surely thats spent on subscriptions and new mounts 🙂

[drifting cloud]

so id assume it is ww stacks up > BB > CB (IF ENRAGED) (IF ENGRAGE GOING OF DURING THE GCD RAMPAGE TO REFRESH) ? or is this complete wrong

[warm crag]

tmogs arent cheap!

[hard widget]

They just make 6 chars every 2 weeks to cap gold on

[delicate thicket]

think azor said he had 350m at some point

[warm crag]

this is missing a few things like execute and you cant really arrive at the cb step without being enraged but sure

[clever belfry]

ramp -> mechanic -> out of range

liar

[warm crag]

dont ramp? noob

[clever belfry]

button glow

= i press

?

[warm crag]

make ramp not glow if mechanic that removes u from boss melee happens

[clever belfry]

real

[warm crag]

28 billion conditional rampage weakaura

[clever belfry]

add 1000000 extra conditionals

(the weakaura will explode)

[warm crag]

i think this is a good idea

hook up the ramp weakaura to chatgpt and explain to it in real time what is happening through combatlogs and bigwigs timers and ask it if rampage is the correct button to press right now

[clever belfry]

i think

u need god

for suggesting this

[warm crag]

someone probably thougth of this already

[lost saffron]

Spongie has the reading comprehension of a 5 year old

[warm crag]

maybe you are a noob at wording coherent sentences

[lost saffron]

Anda understands me

Spongie, can you ask chatgpt for me to give me the correct blood dk talent tree

[rigid kestrel]

BB?
Sorry for a noob question

[slate geyser]

Booty Bay

[tardy lark]

BloodBath

[lusty jungle]

big b ooty

[rigid kestrel]

Ty

[summer crater]

It's so much harder to get into mythic+ groups on my warrior than my mage

[pearl sequoia]

lust

[dense elbow]

Or the fact mage pumps :P

[rigid kestrel]

Legit reason why i also geared an aug, such a good feeling just signing and getting insta invite

[dense elbow]

Fury is yet to bounce back from the nerf numbers wise, so we look kinda meh in the mind of many.

Sure we are fine.

but after HC week making it look like we were S++ tier DPS, the disappointment of us no longer doing that is making us... less an instant pick

[clever belfry]

based @oblique trail

[lost saffron]

idk

have yet to see a mage doing more overall than me

😎

Rogues on the other hand...

Rogues blast

[tame totem]

is fury tier set a big dps increase?

[gleaming siren]

I will explode

[oblique trail]

Based

[warm crag]

no, but most people's sets aren't either

[gleaming siren]

wtf

[warm crag]

ours is probably the worst out of all garbage sets tho

[gleaming siren]

why is Banezi so powerful and can post balls here

[vestal root]

Fury on ST bosses against enh shaman suddenly i dont feel that OP anymore

[oblique trail]

Being yellow gives you special privileges that I readily abuse

[gleaming siren]

Yellow name speaking

[warm crag]

modmailing you

[pearl sequoia]

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[gleaming siren]

Banezi would never say that

[gusty lark]

will thane be playable in fortified week ?

[rigid kestrel]

Low key also ferals are blasting, i did not expect that

[orchid dagger]

Thane isnt playable period

[drowsy kernel]

When I quick sim, my highest damage is usually Bloodbath.. I can't seem to get it being the highest damage anyone with any tips?

AOE that is

[oblique trail]

It is playable, even with wrong talents I still did very comparable damage

But its ST is just not very hot

[clever mural]

How the hell do I beat my ret pally friend in m+? Reroll..? 🤨

[oblique trail]

If he has hands, you likely wont

[clever mural]

Hes good

[mossy fox]

p sure equal skill equal gear you just dont beat ret

[clever mural]

He has better gear 😂

[mossy fox]

qrva beats me and he's 3 ilvls lower

[oblique trail]

Qrva also kinda cracked at the spec

[vestal root]

I also asked myself that the other day then i noticed the ret had skarmorak and arakara egg from m+ and i didnt!

[oblique trail]

It's not just a trinket diff

It's just a spec diff really

[mossy fox]

ye ret seems rly strong for overall dmg atm

think the st is on the lower side

[vestal root]

Ngl fury just aint that insane more i play it, its GOOD but enh shamans, paladins and DHs stomp me usually

Also im bottom 3 warriors of all times but lets ignore that part

[mossy fox]

fdk and assa also deal damage we cannot reach

on extended aoe anyway

[vestal root]

Yet to come across a rogue they barely exist

[oblique trail]

Just blast more burst so they can't do their damage

[vestal root]

Ferals also apparently are good from what ive heard but didnt see it yet i usually top them ez, maybe on +10 keys?

[clever mural]

I’ll just stick to below +6s for my egos sake

[errant vessel]

ye friends enh shaman 2 ilvl lower than me deals 33%+ dmg over me in 5t 2min sim

[vestal root]

Also arms really good atm too but fury easier

[fading sky]

Not in m+ though

[warm crag]

fury st is also not easier lol

havent played arms in aoe content

[restive peak]

Arms is extremely, extremely faceroll rn

It's legit 3 buttons

[lost saffron]

Fury is also 3 buttons

[restive peak]

Yeah but neither is "easier"

Lol

Arms fucks on a few bosses, fury fucks on a few bosses...is a good thing

[lost saffron]

First time we agree

[restive peak]

[warm crag]

linc treacherous lore

[restive narwhal]

Transmitter is not that bad but i unequipped it, as i got the Grim Batol Trinket. Fuck that DPS loss. Sometimes you just cant play the Minigame.

[restive peak]

Rather KMS, I remain the same energy on it

Lol

[lost saffron]

Transmitter is fine

Idk why people struggle so much with it

[mossy fox]

it's super predictable so i dont mind using it

[lost saffron]

Yeh

[mossy fox]

front right or jump

[lost saffron]

The only issue is that on some grounds the stand in it one is buggy

[mossy fox]

not had that yet but stand in circle is the worst of the 3 imo

[oblique trail]

It's so cool when you accidentally spawn it inside an egg on Broodtwister

[lost saffron]

Had it on the ship in dawnbreaker for example

[oblique trail]

Or you get the ball and then it starts going up and over an egg

[mossy fox]

oh so many things bug on that dawnbreaker ship

[lost saffron]

Yeh

[surreal compass]

Post nerf is Mountain Thane viable? It's definitely cooler than spamming Reckstorm.

[lost saffron]

No

[oblique trail]

It's viable to play if you don't care about a big ST loss

[mossy fox]

it's -160k on ST for me vs standard slayer

[lost saffron]

Is it though

[mossy fox]

ye

[lost saffron]

As in

It's more sustained aoe

Realistically you will be behind slayer in burst anyways

[oblique trail]

Yeah the sustained only really comes into play in higher keys

For most people it wont matter much I think

[lost saffron]

Yes but in higher keys you want the st

xD

[oblique trail]

yea..

[lost saffron]

My point is

It's worse at the aoe you have in Lower keys

Because you don't have sustained aoe

[mossy fox]

maybe go arms colossus with full aoe talents

[lost saffron]

Ngl

Might play that on mythic silken court

With how the fight looks

xD

[hard widget]

Ew

[sour frigate]

ww should be worth i bet

[oblique trail]

It sounded like you had a lot of fun last time you did this

[sour frigate]

worse*

[oblique trail]

And you sounded very excited when you finished the key

[mossy fox]

i loved it, wdym

[quick zodiac]

Nah I love trying to charge 💀

[lost saffron]

I was topping dps with colossus arms on ptr tests

Was good

[quick zodiac]

Sometimes it works sometimes it is impossible

[surreal compass]

Big sad. I want to thunderclap things.

[warm crag]

go for it

[surreal compass]

Yeah but being unviable sucks the fun out of it

[oblique trail]

Idk even if it's not great you can still time keys with it

[warm crag]

you will most certainly be vialbe for most content

[oblique trail]

I griefed my talent build and still did good damage with it in a +9 and timed it

[warm crag]

only bleeding edge stuff you will start trolling

[surreal compass]

Like ~5% is most you could tolerate without feeling bad.

[oblique trail]

@mossy fox gear hack or what

How do you sim 1165k with Slayer..

[mossy fox]

let me check

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/vz7FdomVrKZCKQ1KkEciXm

[narrow narwhal]

Big item level

[oblique trail]

I see now

You actually have Mastery

And a 639 wep

[tender locust]

Hi guys, what is cap for haste and poly ? Atm i have 24% haste, 38% mastery and 5% Poly

[rotund ginkgo]

fucking

siege 10

3rd boss

RANDOMLY resets

goes below surface

and resets

at 8%

🙂

[mossy fox]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/b3DszghSeZy6kaGNHHWYEN

might just play culling

[rotund ginkgo]

@mossy fox >:(((

fix!!!

[mossy fox]

on a 5t sim it simmed pretty much the same as brutal anyway

[mossy fox]

guess boss went for a swim, unluck

[rotund ginkgo]

😠

cost us the key

[oblique trail]

Culling AM hack maybe for Broodtwister

(I don't know if it makes a diffie I think, some of the wf warriors played it)

[rotund ginkgo]

hi, what is poly?

[south kayak]

Anyone tried thane yet

[oblique trail]

Yes, it's not great but playable if you don't care about the loss

[hollow shell]

The closest guess i have is "parry" and he's talking in the wrong channel, other then that God knows 😂

[lost saffron]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/382pFwFi1F3oYJqbssXvoE

haaaaaaaaste

[oblique trail]

STOP CHEATING

[south kayak]

Well it does gain in sustained aoe

[oblique trail]

I will force you to wear hosen

[oblique trail]

Yeah you have so much sustained AoE rn

[south kayak]

Nah slayer sustain is way worse than thane, it’s fairly noticeable

[eager thorn]

Same with smf :3

The best talent

[errant vessel]

Do the different tasks from Treacherous Transmitter have same proc chance?

[lost saffron]

I would assume so

[eager thorn]

Nah it looks at what boss ur on and if there’s dmg stuff on the floor it puts the circle there 100% of the time

[surreal compass]

I'm not a pro, but 21% haste is a kinda soft cap where you get 1 more global and one more 5 sec cool down back per minute. Above that it's usually better to start scaling other stats, but you aren't really capped on haste

[rotund ginkgo]

wait

no shot i outsim crit in ST?

[south kayak]

I do way more coming off cd into another pack as thane than slayer

[burnt kelp]

Poly is versatility in french

[oblique trail]

I'm gonna be real chief it's not

[lost saffron]

Yes but no

[drifting stirrup]

Only got to try the AM build for Broodtwister on a few pulls yesterday. You guys reckon it's worth for the added AOE damage

[rotund ginkgo]

oh its his aoe sim

[oblique trail]

It's defo worth it

Boss damage is not tight

And you have Reck + BS then for every add pack by using AM

[rotund ginkgo]

we play AM there?

[oblique trail]

goodness Schmoffel

[drifting stirrup]

We started pulling yesterday, only made it out of first area once at the end of the night

[rotund ginkgo]

gracious

[surreal compass]

Exactly, not legal advice 😅

[rotund ginkgo]

goodness gracious

[oblique trail]

Fury's job on Brood is to destroy adds, and AM helps it by giving you more CDs for each add pack

You still do good boss damage while doing so

[rotund ginkgo]

then my BM hunter will moan that he cant pad

[oblique trail]

Just not as much as you would with RA ofc

[oblique trail]

intercontinental missile him

[drifting stirrup]

Need to look at it tonight. I havent looked at the add timers. Is Uproar also worth?

[oblique trail]

Yes

You remove 1 point in Armored for it

[drifting stirrup]

Yeye

Great boss for Fury, as long as we dont grap instant aggro on the adds and die 😄

[rotund ginkgo]

banezi

do we ONLY just change RA to AM?

same exact talent?

[errant vessel]

do you guys think brood will get the assault of the zaqali treatment

on wlogs

[drifting stirrup]

I hope not

[oblique trail]

RA to AM, 1 point in Armored over to Uproar

That's it

[drifting stirrup]

Rashanan I could see, since the adds live for 1 second 🙂 But Brood is essential an add fight

[rotund ginkgo]

bet

[oblique trail]

Yes since you can technically cheese it by letting people get bitten by parasites

[errant vessel]

ye but the parasite pad though

[lost saffron]

it is not pad

the parasites need to die

[drifting stirrup]

Well logs will be fucked for sure

[lost saffron]

else you wipe

🙂

[tardy lark]

spoken like a fury warrior whose only job is to pad

uh

[lost saffron]

I mean

[tardy lark]

ethically damage the parasites

[lost saffron]

its literally

the reason you bring the fury warriors

so is it pad if you are brought for that reason?

[rotund ginkgo]

me when im padding

[oblique trail]

Pad = AoE

[tardy lark]

yuh, thats why i said "only job"

if i wanted to be useful i'd play fdk

[rotund ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/rrane-battal-rrane-battal-kızgın-battal-kızgın-gif-25355985

[lost saffron]

But pad implies that the damage is useless

and is just there for the sake of padding

[rotund ginkgo]

schmoffel goodness

[errant vessel]

the dmg is useless though

given that you can just not get bitten

[lost saffron]

Ok

You can just kite them

yeh right

sorry

[tardy lark]

run circles around boss easy

[ornate gust]

Will Blizzard fix our single target damage?

[tardy lark]

probably not

[errant vessel]

no hope this helps

[lost saffron]

Look at arms

if you want boss dps you just specc

arms

🙂

[mossy fox]

maybe they'll fix it with a further 3% aura nerf

[polar lagoon]

hi there, do u play around the 2 set bonus, empowering every rampage, or just send it when u have atleast 85% crit chance?

[tardy lark]

BUT TOPH I ONLY WANT 2 WEAPONS NOT 1

[lost saffron]

Specc smf

[onyx fox]

Call me weird but outlaw rogue has been rly enjoyable recently im turning the color yellow

[lost saffron]

realize that even if you are specced into smf, 2 2h weapons are better than 2 1h weapons

[ornate gust]

it feels bad when i need to play 2 specs while others enjoy 1 spec only

[tardy lark]

just let me tmog thunderfuries

[lost saffron]

Which class

enjoys 1 op spec only

🤔

[ornate gust]

no op.. i drop that

[lost saffron]

No but

Like

enhancer is only good for st

sucks everywhere else

arcane same

[errant vessel]

wat

[lost saffron]

no class except havoc has good st and aoe

in one specc

[oblique trail]

both 2p and 4p aren't played around, just pretend they don't exist

[polar lagoon]

thank you ❤️

[lost saffron]

Wat wat?

[ornate gust]

enh shaman and arc mage same.. they excel in both

[lost saffron]

They really dont

[hardy shuttle]

You don't need to pretend

[lost saffron]

arcane mage and enhancer both do shit damage on ovinax

They literally do less boss dps than frost dk

while being singletarget

xDD

[south kayak]

How’s am in m+

[lost saffron]

But then again, thats only from our progress and we did not hit beloy spymasters trashhold yet

[oblique trail]

A lot of lost ST for a bit more AoE

[tardy lark]

assa also kinda pipes on ovinax

[hallow kraken]

hey guys, I'm seeing roughly an equal amount of usage between Transmitter, mark and shard but Transmitter sims higher than both mark and shard. should I be going for transmitter? I feel like it would be annoying on certain bosses

[oblique trail]

Transmitter is generally the best on-use option yes

Using it can be awkward depending on the context, but generally you get used to it fast

[thorny zinc]

They won't, they never do

There's only 2 true ST bosses in the raid and fixing that would improve our AoE

[hallow kraken]

ok thanks

[eager thorn]

Main issue i have now is just using it at bad times which is skill issue or dungeon stuff changing elevation for circle/orb making it hard to stand on

[clever belfry]

@oblique trail AM thane loboz build?

[lost saffron]

Delete this

[clever belfry]

1m gold and i will

[oblique trail]

Maybe I do this for a +10 and hate myself to the point of blowing my ingame brains out

[dense elbow]

I double dare you

[lost saffron]

Why would you play thane loboz build though

[clever belfry]

big blast

[lost saffron]

slayer loboz

would blast more

[clever belfry]

no

thunder blast blasts

[south kayak]

Thane loses even more st xdd

[lost saffron]

bladestorm

[south kayak]

[lost saffron]

brrrrrrrr

[tardy lark]

its even in the name

[forest owl]

yeah it's a little annoying, i know the orb or platform can be baited but i still go complete blind when i use it in m+ when mobs are everywhere xD

[clever belfry]

ravager + using globals on blast / cb

bladestorm

:)

[south kayak]

Real

[clever belfry]

but no reap the 🅱️orm

[south kayak]

Reap the storm should get buffed

30% chance

[clever belfry]

it is like 30% on 5target

buddi

[south kayak]

More

[lost saffron]

It is

[south kayak]

Have you played thane

[lost saffron]

100%

[south kayak]

It does blast

But ST loss is noticeable

[clever belfry]

cds are also

fucking confusing

i wont lie

u have so many diff globals u wanna press

its fucking cringe

[south kayak]

Confusing how

[clever belfry]

?

[south kayak]

Lmao yeah, it’s like enha shaman

[lost saffron]

Enhancer????

[south kayak]

[clever belfry]

u need to refresh BB before unhinged ticks

got CBs and Blasts to press between

and OF to refresh WW stacks blast exists

its a mess

[south kayak]

Ww stacks never drop past 1 or 2 as thane

It’s even worse with powerful enrage

At least with 25% more haste you’ll feel smoother

But it’s so damn slow with Powerful

[ornate gust]

Can anyone share the consumables list for advance sim?

[south kayak]

Proc rate of Thunder blast is so tucked

I just tried dummies and didn’t get a single proc aside from the 2 from avatar

For 1.5 min

ok did they fucking hotfix something

im not getting TB procs from BT

what the fuck is going on?

can anyone test thsi?

[wild mural]

1 key

[warm crag]

what is tb

[south kayak]

thunderblast

@clever belfry can you check if you're getting TB procs from bloodthirst?

I haven't been able to get one proc for 3 mins

[clever belfry]

worked for me the other day

but why ping me ?

[south kayak]

idk you were talking about thane recently

[lost saffron]

@clever belfry Wanna level?

[clever belfry]

nein

[south kayak]

ok it works now

idk what happened, had to relog

[edgy rover]

Hmm for embellishments do I wanna go ascension/writhing or double duskthread

[summer crater]

Asc is slightly better for raid, dusk slightly better for mythic+

[fervent tundra]

how do you guys run sims atm? With the new raid being huge aoe/cleave ? do you add to the amount of number of bosses ?

or do you just run it as ST patchwerk still?

[warm crag]

just st

[dark bramble]

Can i recraft item and put embellishment on him?

[coarse nest]

5 target 40 second monster

[willow knoll]

where i can find the reflects auras?

[thorny zinc]

I run ST with my normal aoe talents

It's not like our rota changes much in ST vs 5 target

[torn urchin]

this weak have another craft?

week

[willow knoll]

yes

[torn urchin]

bracers now?

i have 2h sword

[willow knoll]

i think yes

[oblique trail]

Bracers/cloak/belt, boots even as well, depending on what you got

If you already have hero track socketed wrists for example, but not a great belt, you can put your craft on the belt

[sick jungle]

what strat are you guys running on heroic queen for the p1 green donut jumps

[oblique trail]

One placed towards ledge, One placed towards middle

[sick jungle]

we got to heroic queen last night and it was just wipe after wipe after wipe of them trying to do this venn diagram thing

[oblique trail]

You can vendiagram them as well but haven't tried it yet

[sick jungle]

and having 2 assigned people touch them at the same time

the hardest part was matching timing

is it really that bad if people die before we get to do the mechanic? that was their main worry for not wanting to do the melee/ranged assigned circles

[simple mural]

Wait you guys have gotten 3rd spark? Been running stuff all week and haven’t gotten another

[oblique trail]

Remains to be seen how you do it on mythic, but personally think individually placing them is more consistent as a whole and best practice

[simple mural]

Only have weapon crafted rn

[sick jungle]

3rd spark coming tmrw

[simple mural]

Oh ok

[sick jungle]

yeah I want to run it back trying the melee/ranged strat

i think we wiped 17 times in 1hr trying that strat lmao

[oblique trail]

P1 is the hardest

[sick jungle]

never even got to see intermission 😭

[oblique trail]

Getting the bombs down consistently means you're almost done progging ngl

P2 and p3 are quite easy

You will easily have the most wipes just figuring out the timing and placement of the bombs

[sick jungle]

not sure if it's caused by the strat but since we were so stacked for the bombs in p1, the web lines that go through the raid were so fkin dense

people were struggling to get the bombs to the right spot since there was so much to dodge

[clever belfry]

you shouldnt be hard stacked before the bombs are down

[royal crater]

Can someone link me mythic+ talents for slayer cos i saw a lot different setups? send me code if its easier

[clever belfry]

only hard one is last set of bombs

[sick jungle]

just grab it off wowhead

[clever belfry]

cause its blades into bombs insta

[sick jungle]

i dunno if people were slow but it also felt like the first bombs and blades happened together

people probably just being slow

[oblique trail]

First bombs the blades happen then at the end you get the bombs

You got a lot of time to place those

Issue with vendiagram as well is that you need to be good at timing, as well as being consistent at placing them right (at least it's what it looks to be the biggest pain points)

The normal outer/inner is pretty loose placements as long as it's near the boss

[sick jungle]

yeah people were placing them either too far or too close

people ran into them just trying to get into the center lmao it was brutal

[native saffron]

HC Rash, how long in the fight does first adds spawn?

[sick jungle]

I think 1min?

don't quote me

[oblique trail]

You can check timers on lorrgs.io

[sick jungle]

whoa

[plucky ice]

great boss the adds live like 2sec, who gets to cheese most

[native saffron]

farm is farm

[sick jungle]

worst is when you get the web bomb mechanic when adds spawn

[plucky ice]

yea, just kinda zZzz

yep lmao

[cedar bloom]

am i doing everything right? 607 fury at 7 WN

[native saffron]

it looks like 21 sec

[sick jungle]

yeah 21 s, I was way off wow

I just recalled holding my CDs for first adds

wait

[random vector]

Hey guys, picked up warrior again since quitting in SL. I'm using Afenars WA but I can't seem to get a visual to show for enrage. Anyone have a WA that does so, or know how to enable it for my current WA

[sick jungle]

heroic rash it's showing infested spawn at 1:02 @native saffron

[native saffron]

Seems i was on mythic

[sick jungle]

same

[native saffron]

So then u were right

[fervent yoke]

Single tar vs multi doesn’t really make sense on wowhead it says some fights are mostly single target but it’s saying use the multi target build so which is it?

[sick jungle]

depends on the fight

[native saffron]

Iirc there are only two Full ST fights

[sick jungle]

ye, sikran and princess

[native saffron]

Ye

[fervent yoke]

Alright then I’ll just stay st for those

[sick jungle]

for those, go arms

[fervent yoke]

Hahah I should go arms I’m just not that sweaty rn

[bitter salmon]

i am reading on wowhead duskthread lining is a bit worse than ascension/banding combo
is that still accurate? i am mainly focusing m+

[native saffron]

If you are mainly doing keys go with duskthread lining

[bitter salmon]

oh i can't read, it says it's better for m+ 🤔

[native saffron]

Uptime on the ascension in keys isnt the best

[bitter salmon]

makes sense, ty

actually, can i change that in future or do i have to craft a new piece?

can i change stats + embellishments later on are those fix

[native saffron]

Yes when you recraft

Also at the crafting order npc

You can recraft and change stats + remove embel

[bitter salmon]

ohh i see

that's good to know, ty

oh wait i can only use duskthread lining on armor? that's not good, i am crafting weapon first 🤔

[native saffron]

Its not the end of the world but ye only armor, you get a spark on wednesday so then you can craft one

If you REALLY want another, just craft a 590 item or a 610 pvp item

[oblique trail]

You can also just put it on a piece of pvp crafted gear

[bitter salmon]

i didn't touch pvp so far

guess i'll leave embellishment free 🤔

[random vector]

Guys I'm looking at the wowhead guide for fury and it mentions Anger Management, I can't find this talent/ability anywhere...? I feel like I'm being blind here, where can I find it?

[sick jungle]

reckless abandon

it's on the same node

or use the search it should show you

[random vector]

Ah i see, thanks!

[warm crag]

takes one bg win its really not much

[wraith siren]

When comparing two weapons with the same dps, does damage range have any impact ?

[sick jungle]

nah

[wraith siren]

Ok thx !

[dense elbow]

CB should be #1, BS got too much value compared to OF.
Wild guess, you are not spending all your CB stacks or forgetting to cleave them.
OF is likely not sent on CD.
Would need logs or a vod to do more than guesstimate, if you got some ya can always go to #449510248579858432 to have them looked at.

Solution: Keep on playing, with a bit more focus on the mentioned things. Gl and Hf
Gradual improvement is best improvement

[sick jungle]

anyone else getting horrid fps in raids? I was dropping to 8 fps yesterday

[cedar bloom]

Should i hit CB even if im capped at rage? Should BB be higher?

[dense elbow]

Always send CB, it is your hardest hitting ability for a press

[cedar bloom]

Thank you very much!

[dense elbow]

[cedar bloom]

Last question im sorry but does the priority change with a tier set? (I currently have 0 pieces)

[calm quartz]

Big nope

[cedar bloom]

Ok thanks! Ive been playing my class completely wrong i feel like an idiot

[sick jungle]

just comes with practice

[bitter salmon]

raidbots is telling me to put the higher ilvl weapon in offhand for more dps, why is that?

[modest condor]

probably because you did something wrong

link the sim

[bitter salmon]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/fKpQVgbxTPxkZuy3UiCKwD

[modest condor]

http://puu.sh/Kfuha/81616e3491.png

didnt tell it to put the weapon in offhand

[bitter salmon]

ahh mb 😄

[shrewd drum]

With 2-4 set you always want to cast bs/bb before rampage right?

[sudden tusk]

not always

in overcap situations you skip bb until 35% with Vicious contempt talent

[past pivot]

Why simming DS?

[oblique trail]

Don't think about the set bonus existing, and simply follow the priority as usual

[shrewd drum]

Ah so that 10% is that bad

Got it

[sudden tusk]

its not bad

its just not worth considering

you cant stack it either so its just a little bonus

[shrewd drum]

Yeah it's not that good to play around

Ok

[fleet sorrel]

@misty edge blow up piggy

[calm quartz]

Blow up

[misty edge]

https://tenor.com/view/danny-devito-walking-away-money-raining-money-explosions-gif-16685519

[bitter salmon]

oh you are right, shouldn't be ds

[summer bobcat]

guys

how much DPS upgrade would be upgrading a crafted weapon from 606 to 636

is it huge?

[past pivot]

SIm it

[coarse nest]

Uhhh

Yes!?

[calm quartz]

Yes

[coarse nest]

Weapon is large

[normal hollow]

unless you use SMF

then weapons are smaller

[coarse nest]

Knee slapper

[summer bobcat]

whats SMF

[normal hollow]

it was a dumb joke, not real

[coarse nest]

Small Minded Fury

[summer bobcat]

that make sense cuz i really feel behind

[coarse nest]

Talent

[summer bobcat]

nah i think i know the class to a level

[coarse nest]

They should just rename the talent to “Small Minded” because that’s the only way you’d pick it

[serene vessel]

bro what they actually hotfixed the strat both liquid and echo were doing on kyveza, but only after they both killed it

whats with blizzard

[vale dove]

no way?

[serene vessel]

cant 1 tank it anymore

[vale dove]

oh method got it too

[serene vessel]

debuff persists through death

[summer carbon]

is there any spell reflect list for this season yet?

[oblique trail]

#dps-faq

[vale dove]

thats stupid they fixed it ngl but after reset with the gear I dont think they will need to 2 tank it tbf

[summer carbon]

ty

[rotund ginkgo]

telling the tank to double pull on grim batol cuz we ride the dragons and pack is half hp alrdy and i have full cds

tank double pulls

every1 dies to aoe

"we shouldnt pull, we had no ccs or interrupts"

https://imgur.com/a/4aus4VE

i pull this bad boy and send it to everyone

https://tenor.com/view/bowling-bowling-ball-karen-stomach-pain-stomach-gif-14409347637963431154

[vale dove]

I've done that pull before and people just melted too

[willow hazel]

Check that again. They didn't change Nexus Princess. The tank buster on Silken Court was changed to persist through death so they dont try a tank sac strat for prog

[sudden tusk]

they might change it later

but for guilds still progging on nexus letting RWF people pass it with that strat then blocking it for everyone else would have been a worse case situation

[eternal sundial]

I think the 1 tank was giga fucking cool

Doubt anyone else needs to 1 tank if we just get gear

Nerfs it's hp by 2% idk

[calm quartz]

Rip 8.00B hp

[serene vessel]

oh i just cant read

[willow hazel]

yes I would bet it is changed pretty soon regardless.

[sick jungle]

has anyone tried pugging mythic raid

are any of the bosses doable