fury

[smoky vale]

There always dimishing returns when going past stat breakpoints but it doesnt matter

Listen to robot

[restive pewter]

lmaoo

[agile crystal]

i hate being so addicted to minmaxing everything D:

[smoky vale]

Then dont

[agile crystal]

i just want haste cus it feels ebtter

xD

[smoky vale]

No one is making you minmax

play the game for fun

[agile crystal]

myself is, because i started doing it

now i cant stop

[restive pewter]

If he doesn’t min max he DIES

[agile crystal]

lmaoo

[restive pewter]

(In-game of course)

[exotic turtle]

Are you even a warrior if you don’t spend 200k gold for that extra 10 mastery on something

[restive pewter]

Today I learned I am not a warrior

[agile crystal]

for real, i gotta spend like 100k to get the mastery on my rings

[restive pewter]

too poor

[agile crystal]

and then i get a new ring the day after 😢

[smoky vale]

Deserved

[fiery storm]

since bounty delves came out .....i have only seen rings and cloaks ...i dont have a single peice of different loot lol

(from delves that is)

[high lagoon]

what do u think is fury dead now ? (m+)

[agile crystal]

no

[high lagoon]

but mage, rogue, wl, retri is punishing fury now :/

[fiery storm]

buffs up = slam .... buffs not up = somewhat slam

[drifting pond]

i love pugging and waiting an hour for a tank

[high lagoon]

i waiting an hour for an inv :3 kill myself

[desert cloud]

I timed a tirna 10 gonna try my luck joining a 7

Wish me luck boys

[fiery storm]

lol

[gentle sun]

Hey guys, can anyone tell me wich weapons i should craft ? i have 2 sparks 🙂

[carmine eagle]

what twink do you guys play?

[desert cloud]

Charged greatsword or greataxe with ascendance embelishment

[gentle sun]

ty, any idea on total price?

[smoky vale]

100k depending on region

🙂

[gentle sun]

ok ty

[desert cloud]

Mats will cost u 30k roughly

[smoky vale]

nah no way its 30k

[desert cloud]

In eu

[gentle sun]

oh ok 🙂

[desert cloud]

Oh yeah it's more

Anyway if u buy all r3 mats and crafter asks for more than 10k he's scamming u

[smoky vale]

on na to make the cheapest weapon, not including embellishments and tips is 49k

[desert cloud]

They should be able to make max rank without needing anything to spens from their part

[smoky vale]

not entirely

It costs concentration

[desert cloud]

I am a crafter

U don't need concentration until 636

If u use all r3 i can make 619 without anything extra

[smoky vale]

I'm assuming every craft you make at this point is a 636

no point otherwise

[desert cloud]

Not a lot of people can do 9's at this point

[smoky vale]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[restive granite]

did we get like a shadowbuff or something? from last night to today ive been getting like 10% more overall from various keys, just a feeling though

[red berry]

there is absolutely no way they would buff us rn

so you're just doing better then normal

to what you feel is relative anyway

[gilded flicker]

I felt that slayer is not bad … I tried lots of fury, great burst, but on higher keys I feel like gets a little behind

[high lagoon]

Fury is RIP

[red berry]

is it. is it really. is it? is it really? is it?

[gilded flicker]

Anyone tested MT to see if gets more overall dmg?

[restive granite]

ive been spamming 9s and im blasting, feels really good imo

[high lagoon]

but rog, hunt, retri, wl is balsting more 😄

[gilded flicker]

Can you link me your build? Cause I’m using the one with dragon roar and the other 2 talents of it (the dmg buff and 45s red )

[restive granite]

im using the wowhead one

[restive pewter]

What’s your ilvl/io that people take you for 9s?

[restive granite]

612 ilvl 2260io

[restive pewter]

juiced

[high lagoon]

4p?

[restive granite]

yeah

[high lagoon]

thats it

[gilded flicker]

My enhancement friend don’t pull less than 1m any pull, while I get like great numbers on some pull, and less than 600k in others

[red berry]

the massive 2.8% from tier is the make or break

[high lagoon]

i had no luck, dont have setbonus and dont get invs :3 i love that game

[gilded flicker]

Hmmm

[restive granite]

ive been pugging all my keys too, honestly its the first day that matters the most

[red berry]

🤔

[restive granite]

tried to push as hard as possible to get a good day 1 io

then it has been smooth sailing

[restive pewter]

I just broke 2k today

so decently far behind

2200 seems rough gotta start timing 8+

[restive granite]

also ive been jumping to prot to get into some keys

[restive pewter]

Smart

[restive granite]

like ara ara that everyone signs into, its one of the most difficult keys to get invited

i usually tank that one to get in

[restive pewter]

I don’t have what it takes to tank

[gilded flicker]

That one doesn’t have the red of 45s on dragon roar, right?

[restive pewter]

missing the X factor

[high lagoon]

anyway its a stupid system that u need to wait like an hour for a dungeon that will get depleted :3

[restive granite]

CgEAmidFBOBFf5oKuZ7r/WeW7MAAAAAAAAAAagZGghZYMMzsBDzMjhZYmZbbmxMzsxMjZmhZYz2MMzYAAAgwM22GYDMBzwEYshN

[gilded flicker]

Ty

[high lagoon]

rather stop playing WoW and spend my 13€ in meaningful stuff :3

[restive pewter]

Go for it man

[restive granite]

do you pug raid or youre raiding with a guild?

week 1 i didnt get a single piece of loot from heroic and normal, week 2 i got my 4 piece

[fiery storm]

just picked these guys up for heroic raid >.>

BOE

[restive pewter]

What kinda weapons you rockin is the real question

I’m praying for a wild hammer in this weeks vault

Hero track please :3

[fiery storm]

would be nice

[bitter palm]

thoughts

all warrior

[fiery storm]

holy shit

[bitter palm]

might not be a good idea

[restive pewter]

152

[fiery storm]

lol thats insane

[bitter palm]

progging

[restive pewter]

Good prog lads

[fiery storm]

to be fair thats actually impressive af idc what anyone says

[bitter palm]

this dungeon is stupid

especially

with 4 warriors

and a disc priest

xd

[restive pewter]

Did anyone get the wild hammer or did it boom

key go sky

[bitter palm]

doing it

rn

progging

[restive pewter]

Lmaoo gl soldier

[fiery storm]

yeah grim can be rough

with wrong group

[restive pewter]

Can we spell reflect a tentacle during last boss

[fiery storm]

try it

let us know

[restive pewter]

Quazii said prot can

But idk if prot has like enhanced spell reflect

lmao

[narrow fossil]

Hi guys in m+ uproar sims more than titan's torment but i dont see any warrior taking that talent

[restive pewter]

Will do it in the next 7+ grim I’m in

If it booms it booms

[timber hare]

regarding that, is the 25% only if a spell is reflected?

[bitter palm]

nah its just cancer to do when u have

4 warriors

xd

its not hard

[fiery storm]

no its just in general

[bitter palm]

clappa

[timber hare]

sweet ty

[gilded flicker]

Did any fury MT on my way+ progression?

[charred panther]

Yes

must use prior to touching

Once stunned, ya fugged

[tulip swallow]

yeah you're cooked, that boss isn't going anywhere without a double magic dispel comp

[restive pewter]

Got you

[tulip swallow]

The circle debuff is just not healable damage rn

[charred panther]

Pack right before last boss in grim cooked our tank instantly, lol

[acoustic seal]

yes and you can keep clearing them for the duration of the sr buff

[fervent yoke]

Is mountain thane fun? Been slayer since drop

[restive pewter]

Oh it’s kinda lit

[bitter palm]

cope

its dead

clappao wns

[spare flame]

is there a google docs or similar with stuff we can reflect from m+?

[bitter palm]

WORLD

LAST

10 GRIM BATOL

DONE

IN ONLY

166 MINUTES

SUB 200

[restive pewter]

Any weapon?

Maybe a lil trinket?

[eternal sundial]

belt and cloak

[bitter palm]

hooooly

i have one conclusion from this key

clappa fucks

not on st

but

cant die

[maiden sinew]

do we get another catalyst charge next week?

[manic pelican]

Should be I think

[spare flame]

yes

[eager thorn]

People are trying diff talents out atm so just try it and if u like then continue

[charred panther]

Yea, my st blasts the pally and dh in my group but they clap more consistent aoe. Ret pally and I stay close overall but both beat up the dh

[steel shadow]

closer to balance every day

[sonic kite]

Hi, can you deactivate this screaming somehow?

[eager thorn]

Turn volume on pc to 0

Yw

[autumn dove]

so do we have a new way to get sockets on necks? i couldnt find anything on neck enhancements

[turbid timber]

I have transmitter and skamorak, both 619. Macro transmitter to avatar and skamorak for 45s of bs?

[eager thorn]

Magnificent jewellers setting

[autumn dove]

weird as to why this item doesnt show under neck enhancements on ah, thx though

[fading sky]

Its not only for necks

[autumn dove]

or ring i guess

shows for neither so that point is invalid

[pure echo]

Anyone else confused why blizz nerfed fury but hasn’t touched frost DK?

[dense elbow]

ppl demanding 4/4 set for fury warrior makes me

[slate escarp]

we going m+ and raid full mastery/haste?

[pure echo]

Lmao like 4 set will do a damn thing in M+

[dense elbow]

[pure echo]

Also why are so many people running the BS slayer talent vs the 50% rampage after bladestorm in keys? Could’ve swore I was told the rampage one was for aoe, but seems like people prefer the 20% bladestorm dam

[iron portal]

People demandin 2500+ score from previous expac for +6 also kills me

[dense elbow]

we at that point already?

[iron portal]

Oh yes

[slate escarp]

i have 1800 rio and didnt get a invite in +6 hahaha ppl are crazy

they only invite mdi winners

[dense elbow]

Oh dang, you right - insta declined for 6s

hot dang

Guess I will go crawling back to my 8-10s

[pure echo]

Bruh i’m like 2300 score and queuing as either prot or fury depending on what the key group has and getting declined. Or invited to groups that hard wipe 1st or 2nd boss.

[dense elbow]

^ the hack

[pure echo]

Idk which tank is meta but I could’ve swore prot war’s good. M+ runners are dumb

In my experience they don’t tend to accept people queuing as both roles. Guess they assume I suck at one of them

[dense elbow]

Checks out with their 4/4 tierset req and 2.6k score rio for 6s

[iron portal]

Or both

[dense elbow]

Going to sit on my own 10 key for a few hours, so PuGing, and dang isnt that enjoyable today apparently :v

[forest berry]

how much weeks till we will start being useless compared to other dps with their 4P ???

[dense elbow]

We already are, wdum?
Or you talking raid? If so, prob never

[forest berry]

was talking in m+

but i guess u are

right

[dense elbow]

Ye, you better just play for fun mate

[forest berry]

when i'm seeing pal with 2P 610 weapon out dpsing me

while i'm here with my pretty overtuned 4P

¨¨

^^

[dense elbow]

All fury had was burst, that got neutered, now we just got mediocre burst and mediocre dam - making anyone simply just better at either or both

We still decent, disclaimer, and good in raid, but m+ is... a pretty meh experience atm

No moment of glory either anymore, so it gets old quick

[eager thorn]

Lotta ppl just big elitist rn in m+

[iron portal]

First weeks in m+ tend to be cruel

Later on meta slaves dont disappear but rn most people want big things from first m+ vault i guess

[dense elbow]

I always find first few weeks to be the best experience, late season is just filled with weird requirements and opinions. W1 is you sign, accepted, 3 tap the key - go next

[eager thorn]

Sign and accepted after 100 sign ups maybe

[dense elbow]

wdum

[eager thorn]

That it can easily take a long time to find groups rn

[dense elbow]

8-10 range seems quite open to me

got delcined for the 6 keys tho

[eager thorn]

I’m 1800 and get declined from 5s

[iron portal]

Maybe you are just too good

[dense elbow]

yeye, skip 5-6, that is the cesspool atm

[eager thorn]

Ive only done m+ in s2 and s4 dflight and both times were so much easier to find groups

[dense elbow]

it hasnt floated up yet

[eager thorn]

I mean i cant skip 5-6 if ppl wont take me in 7+

[fast mural]

i mean if you list a +9 you realy quickly have like 50 applicants

even if your ilvl is high and score you might not get found

[dense elbow]

Just try to get into some 8s, more likely to get in

higher up you go, the more chill ppl tend to be

[eager thorn]

I mean im not sure ur seeing the issue

[pure echo]

I don’t think there’s a problem with being elitist per se, I think there’s definitely a problem with blizzard hard catering to ranged dps for M+ tho.

[dense elbow]

I am 605, and get into 8s, you will be fine love

[fathom ravine]

ay yo, does priority changes with 4 set?

[eager thorn]

Ye and thats cool for you but i dont

[dense elbow]

Thats so weird

Rules for thee and not for me, kind of shit

[pearl sequoia]

Literally just push your key, been doing 9's and 10s but cant get into 7s pugging

DECLINED

[eager thorn]

I would but ppl in this game have fragile ego and cant handle a wipe

[pure echo]

Are you EU? I’m fighting tooth and nail to get into 8-10’s and i’m 615 lmao

[dense elbow]

EU

[fast mural]

if you push your own key you need to do 7,6,7,8,7,8,9 to finally have a +9

[pure echo]

Yeah figured. I feel like EU has a better M+ scene. NA’s is fucking atrocious.

[fast mural]

its more time efficent to sign up for a +9 for 2hours

[pearl sequoia]

Yea had a boomy drruid log off last boss in city, hit the boss with the 4 man left right uppercut

[eager thorn]

I’m eu 611 and still have issues with like 7s

[eager thorn]

The worst part abt leavers is most of the time for me its when the dg is still timeable

[pearl sequoia]

I just make sure people arent gonna be aids and leave if not timed, u get crests anyways for compleition

[forest berry]

i'm with a tank both have 2k rio and we struggling getting into +7

this is boring

[fast mural]

solo que when

[pure echo]

I gotta save my 11 key for guildies so I can’t use my key. 😐 gotta make sure everyone on raid team eats lol

[pearl sequoia]

what key?

[pure echo]

Siege

[dire oak]

Hello guys, i need some help from you. I always wonder if when you rampage, do you priorize doing bloodthirst and crushing blow before doing rampage again or should we prioritize using rampage whenever possible?

[eager thorn]

Ye i wanna see the rio history of all these 600ilvl ppl getting into 9s n stuff ngl

[pearl sequoia]

Oh doable, as long as theres not unavoidable overlaps and boss bugs lol

[pure echo]

People weren’t happy I pugged my 9 dawn that became a 10 mists that I ran with the same group lol. So I need to save this key

[minor comet]

Can I enchant both 2h weapons with the same enchant or should I choos another one?

[pearl sequoia]

Same enchant, they stack

[pure echo]

Check wowhead, the rotation is there and is very straight forward.

[forest owl]

.

[pure echo]

But in short you’ll almost always crushing blow and sometimes bloodbath before rampage again

[forest owl]

did something change in this discord in terms of what can be posted? i keep being blocked from posting a simple sentence with nothing going on in it

[eager thorn]

Doubt

[pearl sequoia]

shadowbanned

[light tapir]

Did somebody say something

[forest owl]

i dunno but i cant post the image of what i was trying to say cause its also banned

[pure echo]

What are you trying to say

Mhmmm whatcha say

[dire oak]

Thanks

[forest owl]

it was to do with one of my keys yesterday disbanded and the reason why but it kept blocking it

[pearl sequoia]

I can post pics

Idk

[pure echo]

Are you a bot

Beep boop

[forest owl]

yes bee boop boo boo bap

[pure echo]

Lmao

[slate escarp]

have anyone the spellreflect audio weakaura?

[pure echo]

Idk that’s weird

[light tapir]

They're afraid of what we might become

[slate escarp]

u mean garrosh?

frost dk lichking they dont want us to fight each other?

[pearl sequoia]

Cuz blizz looks at raid dam without any thought and nerfs the top perrformers

[timid prairie]

do we have data on buffed alchemist stone? 10k strength passive proc seems pretty good

[somber elk]

guys is 3 stack execute > everything in st and mt?

[polar narwhal]

If you're Enraged. If cleaving you also want to have Meat Cleaver.

[dense elbow]

Mind checking something for me, just sign up for a bunch of +8 mists - see if you get in within like 5-10min?

[red berry]

people really want to pretend that a five percent nerf rendered fury irrelevant - it’s fine. fury is fine. play what you want to play. It’s the first week of the season.

[wheat estuary]

wouild like to know as well

[red berry]

👁️👄👁️

[tidal kindle]

First week and already falling behind on packs that live longer than 20-30s

[dense elbow]

^

[tidal kindle]

Vs dk/mage/enh/lock that know how to play their class

[red berry]

🤔

[tidal kindle]

Among others

[dense elbow]

Ppl didnt play beta, so they thought the burst was opop cause of HC week

it is what it is

[tidal kindle]

Admittedly the burst was silly

The 3% nerf you can also say was warranted for raid

But m+ is now

[dense elbow]

Silly and fun; at least we had a moment of glory

[tidal kindle]

[dense elbow]

3% flat nerf is fine, the burst reduction also was fine - for raid

For m+ tho, it was a suckerpunch

We still decent tho - so hey, we not allowed to complain

would be terrible to excell at a niche

[pure echo]

Here’s a thought, deep wounds. For fury

[dense elbow]

sod off

[pure echo]

That way we don’t have stupid aoe burst but we get to remain competitive.

[night relic]

unironically im pumping on st but falling behind on aoe

[dense elbow]

Our M+ ST doesnt suffer as much as some, but you shouldnt beat most - you do well on fights with adds tho, like NW

[pure echo]

I’m getting gapped by good frost DK’s. Mostly AOE but in some ST too

[tidal kindle]

ProntainThane

ProteG rising

[dense elbow]

I just want to have my moment of glory back

[night relic]

yeah nw is great

[dense elbow]

Raid stole it, cause encounter design

[forest owl]

dat 2nd boss necro wake

[coarse moon]

any active twitch fury warriors i can watch for m+ / raid POVs?

[dense elbow]

Most of the lads that are live right now

[forest owl]

im definitely noticing the hit in m+ more than raid for sure, im parsing almost all 99s on boss dmg but not doing as hot overall, could just be me though

[coarse moon]

ty

[dense elbow]

We lost our peaks, so it just feels off. It will get normalised in your mind soon, hopefully

[night relic]

set changes: BT increases damage of your next BS
4set: when raging blow resets cd it also has a chance to reset BS

spin2win

[dense elbow]

BS got nerfed, cause too good in raid

that tier would see it gutted again

cause raid

[night relic]

smh

[dense elbow]

Lets pray next tier is anti-fury design in raid

so we get left alone and maybe even returned to glory

[forest owl]

i like your thinking, it would probably work xD

[night relic]

cant be powerful early expac gotta be mid or late otherwise u get gutted

[dense elbow]

it is our only hope

[compact knot]

it was so predictable though

[keen kindle]

Yall got arms nerfed too

[compact knot]

well arms is still really good ST

[keen kindle]

Fury should be nerfed back to df

[red berry]

lmao

what even

[compact knot]

fury is bottom 5 ST spec and top padding spec by 50%

plus with our tier set being awful we will kinda just fall off, only padding that matters in this raid is first phase of ansurek and broodtwister, everything else is void

[forest berry]

thing is fury is probably the funniest melee dps class to play, paladin rotation is boring af same as pal

i mean same as dk

[compact knot]

i hate slayer strikes so much

awful hero talent

[pearl sequoia]

is it? consist of 3 buttons and sometimes 4

[keen kindle]

Why

Is it cuz fury exe is mid af

[compact knot]

because one boss you can get 20 procs in 3 minutes and another one you get 40 procs

[forest berry]

i mean at least we have one more buttom than dk/pal

i'll take it

[compact knot]

its just like unbridled ferocity all over again but feels worse on some bosses because bladestorm wont line up with adds if you get shit RNG

[forest owl]

one of our guilds bms said mmm fury is just pad dmg...ok then give me some st worth anything xD

[compact knot]

most specs are this

wish we would stop saying this, dumbass statement lmfao

[compact knot]

truth

[runic violet]

I agree fury padding is strong

but we got nerfed already ... f

[compact knot]

bottom 5 ST spec on each boss

[restive peak]

I mean in M+ our ST is giga busted though, I'd venture to say we're in an extremely strong spot for M+

I haven't lost overall yet while timing 11s; 12s are a fuckin wild ride cuz of the compounding fort buffs

[runic violet]

damn

here im struggling way below

[restive peak]

Regularly maintaining over 1.1-1.2mil ST on the bosses while others are 900kish

[inner juniper]

ascension embellishments blow in m+?
on average is duskweave better choice?

[pearl sequoia]

yup

[restive peak]

I use ascension, I think ascension is better if you're chain pulling

However some dungeons you'll want duskweave by higher end, but also a 636 wep alone is a bigger DPS increase for both ST and AOE than the 2 duskweaves rn

By the time you're worried about title keys, you'll have enough sparks to have both options

For now, not making a wep is inting

[pearl sequoia]

@restive peak are you pugging or running keys with a team

[restive peak]

Both

Tbh our team being on all at once around the raid times hasn't happened much, so it's a lot of pugs filling in spots regardless

Cancelled weekend raids due to brood being giga busted will help though

[pearl sequoia]

Worm kicks look frustrating

Kicks in raid in general >.>

[inner juniper]

thanks im gonna make wep right now

[restive peak]

Wep is the play

[dense elbow]

Got this sneaking suspicion Lincc aint 606 ilvl

Well, maybe, on 3rd warr

[restive peak]

My alt warrs are like 600, main is 621

[serene vessel]

ur 621

lmao wtf

[restive peak]

2 weeks of splits, lotsa M+, 4/8 mythic

Ye

[serene vessel]

chat dumb question because i stopped playing DF on my warrior end of s2

is there a way to get more profession knowledge for dragonflight

like a catch up mechanic they implemented

[dense elbow]

you already dropped 2 of the mules?

[orchid vault]

Anyone else having detachable fang simming pretty good on ST and dungeon slice?

[restive peak]

They're deadge except if we do 1 more round of splits, ye

[dense elbow]

A moment of silence for the warrior alts who never will see r1

[ancient latch]

quick noob question guys, for the rotation when using blood thirst/bloodbath, apart from using it as a filler when raging blow and rampage are on CD. Should i be using it when it turns to bloodbath or save it when blood craze is at 4-5 stacks?

[hasty crescent]

which missive do you want for a crafted weapon.. Hatse Versatiltiy or Haste Mastery?

[dense elbow]

Well, optimally would be to send it as BB if you got the option

[warm crag]

think most ppl went with haste mast

it really probably doesnt make a difference

[hasty crescent]

thanks spongie

[unreal onyx]

at what keylvl do we get gilded crests?

[fickle bluff]

9

[unreal onyx]

bruh

[spare flame]

assuming i have all my cds up, what is the burstiest aoe opener i can do as fury?

in m+

reck->charge->avatar->roar->bladestorm->odyn?

or do i weave in rampages

[runic violet]

reck+avatar+troar+bladestorm+probably rampage and crushing blow and bb... then odyn then do rotations.

oh.. and if sudden death becomes available, send it.

[granite oak]

Pretty sure this is right for highest burst

[warm crag]

i think this sequence does the highest burst fastest but weaving in at least a ramp probably results in more focus damage

[lilac basin]

hello fury comrads, any advice between the weapon and the pants ?

[runic violet]

I usually give a few seconds before going full burst...

[warm crag]

if you're fighting ansurek, do the order you listed

[runic violet]

you could die lol

[warm crag]

if you're doing m+ with a big man in the middle, hit a rampage instead maybe

[granite oak]

Nelf:)

[spare flame]

I see

[warm crag]

you are not shadowmelding mid cds

[granite oak]

Don’t forget that for highest burst.. shadow meld is the most crucial part to fury burst

[runic violet]

what's shadow meld

[pearl sequoia]

Probably weapon, will give your other wweapon free ilvl upgrade to

[spare flame]

im too busy blood furying

[warm crag]

thats a hero track weapon you can just farm from m+

[drifting pond]

hard to know what the hell that is when its written in elvish

[warm crag]

tierpiece will help you gear and your guild finish out sets this week

[runic violet]

hero track weapon???

[pearl sequoia]

its haste vers

(pretty sure)

[warm crag]

stats on wep matter so little

[lilac basin]

y hast vers

[orchid dagger]

Bro, don't do the treehuggers dirty like that

[pearl sequoia]

i wasnt meaning the stats are why

idk pick either if u dont have

actually pick both, thats better

[oblique trail]

Mastery + anything is fine

oh

cool my chat wasn't refreshed

schizo messaging

[clever path]

mastery + haste

skibidi

[lilac basin]

i wish we could freeze one loot from the vault

[nocturne dragon]

and the mythic track start coming to your vault at +10

[thorny lily]

hey, rampage on top damage in keys is normal?

or i doing something wrong? :/

[nocturne dragon]

I think it's normal isn't it?

[clever path]

yeah espec if you're 2 set

[thorny lily]

is like this on low lvl keys for me

bladestorm should be upper but i'm just learning the pulls

[oblique trail]

not true, you get from +9 as well

[nocturne dragon]

but I thought this is the chart?

[oblique trail]

It's wrontg

[clever belfry]

why da wowhead lying

Its also wrong on initial upgrade level

[fading bane]

This image says end of dung is 610 for 9 and 10

[clever path]

yall pump booger sugar plus caffiene while raiding?

[clever belfry]

No

[fading bane]

Do you actually do 9s for vault??? Ive not heard about this

[modest condor]

`wtf

[clever belfry]

Same
but ive got all my vaultus done so

[valid pulsar]

does anyone here have detachable fang trinket ? raidbots says its better than sacbrood from arakara in both st and mt

[radiant plank]

is ss lie?

[valid pulsar]

but bloodmallet says its worse

[oblique trail]

I'm 99% certain it's a lie

[ornate gust]

what?

[fading bane]

I just see a lot of guildies needing 10s. If u do 9s its nice to let them know

[radiant plank]

does myth track start on 619

or 623

there is ur answer

[clever belfry]

23

[nocturne dragon]

623 yeah 619 is max heroic

[radiant plank]

so its 10's for vault

[ornate gust]

so +9 vault is myth track item?

[eager thorn]

+10 is vault

[somber elk]

No

[clever belfry]

max heroic crest max hero track is 626

[eager thorn]

for mythic

[ornate gust]

yes.. you need to do +10 key to get myth track vault

[nocturne dragon]

sorry anda I mean 619 is the max heroic crest yeah before you need the myth to break through

[nocturne dragon]

damn then banezi spreading misinfo

[clever belfry]

Yeah i wasnt saying youre wrong

Just specifying

[fading bane]

Banezi better not do a «source i made it up»

[clever belfry]

danish brainish

wcyd

not his fault

[radiant plank]

reminder guys

[oblique trail]

Well

I got baited by a pic

wcyd

I spread misinformation

[clever belfry]

any pixels or

[eager thorn]

how dare you

[radiant plank]

https://tenor.com/view/we-do-a-little-trolling-misinformation-toji-no-miko-kaoru-mashiko-gif-24078541

[fading bane]

@oblique trail 💀

[clever belfry]

@oblique trail what is your take on it being impossible to attain Lightforged draenei female hairstyle 9 through recal or glamour

[eager thorn]

is there any way to remove orb of ascendence from damage meters?

just realised it counts to overall dps

[clever belfry]

you could yes

[spring jacinth]

what have u guys crafted as first things?

[ornate gust]

weapon

[quartz mason]

do you craft weapon even tho its only 619?

[oblique trail]

it's gg..

just kill my yellow name

[oblique trail]

my take is that you should get a grip after TC'ing this for over an hour last night

[clever belfry]

ok but ure just mad

[oblique trail]

I am indeed seething right now

[oblique trail]

2/2 points in this

[clever belfry]

it didnt have 2 puntos

[warm crag]

andus

it is time for the sequel

[clever belfry]

was ihr wolle

[oblique trail]

idk I don't remember this talent

[clever belfry]

was on the pick 1 out of 3 i think

[clever belfry]

it was bad innit

[warm crag]

maybe i will tell the gamers to trap an opponent

[clever belfry]

https://www.wowdb.com/talent-calculator#G

[oblique trail]

#G

[boreal nova]

Are they gonna nerf us again?

[oblique trail]

They've already nerfed us 8 times

[clever belfry]

need this king back

[clever belfry]

sir
a 9th nerf has hit the fury warriors

[warm crag]

holy shit that used to be pocket lust

[clever belfry]

yes it was quite powerful

imagine this on broodtwister

normal talent

[warm crag]

can frenzy die please

[oblique trail]

Yeah kill Frenzy and give Furious Slash back

Think this could be very powerful

And not at all a hated change from a lot of people

[vivid lagoon]

Gosh all I see is this chat is crying me a river lol

[clever belfry]

?

[oblique trail]

where

[vivid lagoon]

Hahahahaha

[clever belfry]

u ate some acid or

bluds hallucinatin

[warm crag]

brick and mortar pfp

[vivid lagoon]

Keep crying maybe blizzard is going buff warrior but this is the wrong chat to cry

[clever belfry]

0/8 b8

[warm crag]

can you reply to the message that is crying

[clever belfry]

gotta be a bit better next time buddy

[modest condor]

no

[lament atlas]

sup boys, which would you go out of these? I have 0 tier atm (but cata and token ready to use) - thinking neck since i OS prot, will save 30 mythic crests and will eventually get tier anyway

[clever belfry]

unless ur gear isnt absolutely horribly statted neck should also be better for fury

for sure take neck

[vivid lagoon]

That neck is nice

[dense badge]

Is there a way to specify item quality in a /use macro ?

say for example /use Tempered Potion

[vivid lagoon]

Get that neck dude

[lament atlas]

cool ye nice one boys

[cedar depot]

i always wondered why that neck isn't on our BIS list, looks great

[clever belfry]

/use item:212265:x
i think

with x being the quality level

ok no that is not the accurate command i shall check

[dense badge]

someone on WoWhead said this

[clever belfry]

ah its just seperate spell ids

ye

[dense badge]

will it default to the lowest?

[clever belfry]

this order should default ot the lowest

if you reversed it, it should start on the highest

[dense badge]

Perfect, ty

[hollow badge]

how bad is the ST dps loss between spear and roar

[oblique trail]

Extremely small, around 0.5%~

[hollow badge]

good looks

[quick zodiac]

Playing keys with a frost dk is fun💀

[serene vessel]

chat

this is gonna sound like a dumb question and maybe it is

i know the obvious answer is "sim urself" and the conventional knowledge is mastery tends to be our favorite stat but secondary stats aren't that crazy different, but like why? Isn't 1% mastery just 1% more damage? Isnt 1% crit also 1% more damage?

[worldly kraken]

no because of how those stats are weighed

Mastery carries more weight than crit

[serene vessel]

oh is this just a simple "it takes more rating to reach 1% crit than 1% mastery"?

deal?

[clever belfry]

Yes

[serene vessel]

dope ok

was just making sure my brain wasnt dumb

[worldly kraken]

wowhead has a guide for stat priority

mastery is 2nd only to str if i remember

[serene vessel]

well no i get that part I was just wondering the why

[worldly kraken]

oh yeah it's just part of the deisng

design

[clever belfry]

Stats however also work with each other

1% of vers gets you more damage when you're at 30% mast than it does at 10% mast

compound that on top of drs

simyoself

[serene vessel]

poe brain has ruined me

[clever belfry]

surely poe would teach you this

[jovial coral]

self report

caught

[clever belfry]

multi vs addi

[clever belfry]

?

[serene vessel]

well my mind just sees %increased in everything

and assumes its all additive

because things in wow don't use the differentiation b/w more and increased

[jovial coral]

?

[worldly kraken]

i started out prioritizing crit when i was building my current warrior as an experiment

didnt work well

when i changed over to mastery/str I actually crit MORE than i did

[radiant plank]

Never saw that coming

[worldly kraken]

with the "crit build"

[gleaming siren]

That's a skill issue

[worldly kraken]

it's important to try stuff for yourself

[serene vessel]

ur a skill issue

[worldly kraken]

but yeah wowhead is right

[radiant plank]

why?

there is acomputer

that tests it for you

which is what the guidewriters do

and then write the guide

[worldly kraken]

People design sims

People design computers

Why leave a stone unturned

[radiant plank]

hahhahha

[worldly kraken]

But yes 99 percent of the time they are correct

[radiant plank]

The computer tests

[gleaming siren]

That is not how statistics work my guy

[radiant plank]

what stat is the best

[night relic]

Speed

[worldly kraken]

I'm speaking from experience. I crit alot more than I did before

[gleaming siren]

Trust me I get it statistics are hard to comprehend because it goes against the intuition you have acquired throughout your life but I can very confidently tell you the game does not make you crit more when you drop crit

[worldly kraken]

Okay thank you for the advice

Anyway

[orchid dagger]

Something something Recklessness' additive crit

The reason we don't look for crit is because we have a CD just gives flat crit

[gleaming siren]

That still doesn't mean you crit more when you drop crit stat

[clever path]

so for ST, on iceveins there is one build, and then here on discord, there is another build

one has onslaught, one doesnt

[worldly kraken]

Unfortunately the answer isn't as simple as more crit strike = more critical hits.

[gleaming siren]

Sanest Skyholder

[worldly kraken]

That part is true

But there is more to it

[worldly kraken]

I never even made this assertion lol

I said that when I prioritized other stats I crit more

Of course less crit equals less crit

[clever mural]

If I go more mastery, will that bring my mom back?

[worldly kraken]

Tf

[peak moon]

Probably but don't bank on it

[worldly kraken]

Why does Simon look like someone killed him and is wearing him like a suit

[clever mural]

My mom liked him

[warm crag]

what does this mean

[golden hare]

no crits = skill issue

[worldly kraken]

Okay idk why I expected anything more lol

[warm crag]

like no hold on i'm trying to figure out how you got to that conclusion

do you like have logs of you critting less when you had more crit stat or are we going off of a feely thing here

[gleaming siren]

No but spongie

Prioritizing other stats doesn't mean less crit stat

Whatever that means

[clever belfry]

have u graduated middle school?

[worldly kraken]

Yall are bad at reading and comprehension but idk what I expected from the fury warrior channel lmao

[oblique trail]

You are making insane claims

That you started critting more when you had less crit

[worldly kraken]

To be fair I am insane

[warm crag]

i am asking you to clarify

[oblique trail]

When in a vacuum this can be true in a sample size of one or two

[clever belfry]

🎰

[oblique trail]

But on an average this is simply just not how statistics work

[worldly kraken]

Can you quote where I said that please because at this point I'm just flabbergasted

[oblique trail]

Is this not the exact thing you said here?

[golden hare]

does this mean your crits did more damage then?

[teal pine]

[oblique trail]

Are you just confusing how crit works

As in higher crit would mean higher crit damage, or more crit chance

[worldly kraken]

Where did I say less crit equals more crits though.

[teal pine]

[worldly kraken]

Please help me

[golden hare]

@iron portal

[worldly kraken]

I do not recall making this claim

[iron portal]

yes

[teal pine]

⛽ 💡

[pearl sequoia]

specify crit more = more crit dam / more crit %

[iron portal]

archive time?

[golden hare]

for sure

[oblique trail]

It's natural to assume that when you sate "I started prioritising crit" "Now I prioritise mastery/str" that you'd then have less crit chance as a result

[worldly kraken]

Not at all. There is more to it than that.

[worldly kraken]

How low.

[iron portal]

Is it low just to keep this for future generations?

[oblique trail]

Do explain then how you came to crit more when you started not prioritising crit

[worldly kraken]

I have no idea

[oblique trail]

Right

So again

We are telling you

This is not how it works

[worldly kraken]

Ok

[clever belfry]

joe biden klaplongen

joe biden klaplongen

[oblique trail]

That you don't "just" start critting more if you stop prioritising crit, and instead invest into other stats

[compact siren]

🧀 vs 🧀

[worldly kraken]

Your right my reality was woven by tricksters

[clever belfry]

james may vs james may

[worldly kraken]

I am delusional

[thorny shoal]

joe biden spoontech fan?

[oblique trail]

I also mentioned above that in a vacuum this can happen

But statistically this is not how it would work out

[worldly kraken]

Ok

[teal pine]

https://tenor.com/view/rammus-gif-25769853

[clever belfry]

leaked footage of joe biden @dq indigo stage

[pearl sequoia]

gyat

[thorny shoal]

hahaha

[clever belfry]

in the so juice klaplong circle 💀

[iron portal]

@golden hare done

[worldly kraken]

Oh yeah well I'm gonna archive this interaction for others to laugh at even harder!

That'll show em

[iron portal]

I just follow the will of the people

[onyx violet]

!trinkets

Or not 🤷

[odd light]

hey do i use recklessness before avatar?

[onyx violet]

Was kinda wondering how good Waning Candle trinket is for Fury, the delve trinket with crit spread on allies

[toxic plank]

Yeah reck avatar roar then bladestorm or odyn fury depends how much dot you got left from ava odyn fury

And if you survive the riping agro 😅

[icy stream]

whats a reasonable tip for crafting a weapon now

[hard widget]

yes

[worldly kraken]

Bare minimum 1k

[icy stream]

ok so sending 4k for a max qual 619 craft is ok?

[worldly kraken]

Seems fine

[golden hare]

thank you for your hard work 🫡

[worldly kraken]

Some craftsman will charge you just for the concentration

For no upfront fee that's pretty nice for a 619

[wintry wharf]

Speaking of crafting, what items have you guys crafted? 2H? wrist/cloak?

[worldly kraken]

Nothing anymore I'm covered in raid gear

But I made the wrists

[icy stream]

just spent like 20k on a 619 r5 weapon seeing I farmed most of the mats so pretty happy

[worldly kraken]

Yeah that's deff cheap for a 619

[oblique trail]

A 2hander as it's going to both be the immediate best upgrade for many, able to fairly easily be made into 636 so you wont have to gamble on myth track vault weapons, and also so you can craft Ascendance on it as your best raid embellishment

[worldly kraken]

Sucks they're 2 sparks each

[oblique trail]

Simply just the usual 2hander tax

[worldly kraken]

Means that fury warrior takes longer to get kitted in that direction

[lament niche]

Why is raidbots trying to say to me that best would be 2 on use trinkets, dont they always go to 15 sec cd when using one of them?

[worldly kraken]

Still sucks

[oblique trail]

It's by default a 20 sec CD you place on the other on-use trinket (typically)

[worldly kraken]

You're telling me the sim is wrong?!?!?!

How dare you

[jovial coral]

getting taxed irl and in world of warcraft... when will it end 😔

[oblique trail]

Transmitter has a 30 sec CD tied to it if you use it first, to stop you from using 2x on-use, like Transmitter + Mark/Skarmorak

[lament niche]

Sikrans + Skyterrors would be what sim wants me to use, just feels stupid to have another one on cd

[oblique trail]

With that said, 2x on-use can in fact be the best setup, simply either because they're strong enough to warrant it like Transmitter and Mandate, or you don't have good/good enough passive trinkets to replace one

[lament niche]

Yeah i got no good passive trinkets atm

[oblique trail]

Having 2x damage trinkets isn't that big of a problem

Since you don't need to have them aligned with CDs, so you just use one of them on pull, then the next whenever it's ready, and after that just on CD assuming it makes sense in the context of the fight

[lament niche]

Think im just gonna spend the next week in arakara

Warrior brain cant comprehend 2x on use trinkets

[worldly kraken]

They gonna nerf Dat egg I'm tellin ya

[oblique trail]

They already did

[worldly kraken]

Lmao

[oblique trail]

A basically inconsequential one, but nerfed nonetheless

[worldly kraken]

Pre season was awful cuz of that trinket. So many quitters

[oblique trail]

never.. we live only to pay and handover all of our hard earned valuables

[tidal kindle]

Taxation without representation

🙅

[trail zephyr]

hey lads 🙂 is there a weakaura for tracking the 4piece tierset bloodthirst bonus?

[oblique trail]

You don't need to track it

Both the 2p and 4p is purely passive and you don't have to ever think about it

[runic violet]

just killed heroic broodtwister with pug... holyshit the fight is exhausting.

[trail zephyr]

ah ok i thought for more efficieny it would be nice to track it, but cheers

[oblique trail]

Nah, if anything tracking it will just add fluff to track which wont really change anything

[worldly kraken]

Less think more better

[pearl sequoia]

passively buffing the current rotation so yuh

[oblique trail]

It's the same as tracking opportunist and Frenzy frankly, which while you can, you don't need to since it's incredibly minor and just adds even more to think about

[worldly kraken]

https://tenor.com/view/tusareve-monkey-crazy-gif-26485098

[restive granite]

warrior should be buffed solely because what they did to us in castle nathria

[willow nest]

Any macors that u need as a warrior !?

[odd light]

what weapon enchants we use?

[oblique trail]

None that you really need, but there are a few very handy ones in #dps-faq under the macro section

[oblique trail]

Depths or Radiant Power, either one works depending on what your main focus is

But they're very close to each other, so can't go wrong with picking one or the other

[onyx violet]

Depths ST
Radiant aoe

[jolly mist]

and tbf depths does make a big difference in boss damage in dungeons so

id pick that

[sage ridge]

If I am not planning the raid past heroic should I just go double duskthread?

[worldly kraken]

made us dance?

[oblique trail]

You can, sure

The two setups are pretty close in an ST scenario, so you wont gimp yourself necessarily by using 2x Lining

[sage ridge]

636 weapon is kinda what is holding me back a bit

[oblique trail]

You can temporarily craft the Lining on 2x 610 pvp items

It doesn't change how much stats it gives with the ilvl of the item it's on

So a 590 item will give 750 vers, and so will a 610 item

[spiral shell]

If I craft 619 claymore I can recraft right to higher?

[oblique trail]

Correct

[spiral shell]

Ty

[torpid sand]

i don't know how

but i dodged necrotic wake last boss dark exile

[oblique trail]

You can leap it

[torpid sand]

that's the thing: i did that using a charge

[oblique trail]

It'll still kill you after 30 sec or w/e the duration is

[torpid sand]

yeah i noticed

[dense elbow]

Healer problem :^)

[torpid sand]

i died after he died

we still failed the dungeon tho

for a +7 it's very rough

[lilac basin]

maybe i could craft a weapon and take the pants since crafted weapon seems the way to go

[oblique trail]

Haven't seen charge do it as well but suppose most mobility abilities can prob do it

[lilac basin]

was it expensive to craft yours ?

[oblique trail]

I crafted it for roughly 45k-50k

Then recrafted for roughly 20k

Idk what the current pricing is right now, depends on what weapon you craft and whether you're on NA or EU

For me the cheapest was the Axe

[torpid sand]

do we have a threshold for mastery?

cause i think this might be a little too much

nvm i'm stupid

it was being buffed by alchemical chaos

[ornate gust]

If i upgrade my weapon to 635, can I upgrade my second weapon with no crest?

[lilac basin]

it should y

[idle fiber]

is there any spell reflect spreadsheet for this season?

[oblique trail]

You can yes

[oblique trail]

#dps-faq

[pseudo rain]

Addon true stat values and always sim

[lean nacelle]

do we not get free upgades to 2h from having a higher crafted piece anymore?

[oblique trail]

You do

If it doesn't work, close the game and log back in

[lean nacelle]

ill try that, thanks

[delicate karma]

yo guys whats the best item to craft?

for fury

[kind bolt]

just me or thunder claps generate way too much aggro as mountain thane

[clever belfry]

just you

[steel void]

Yo what race make me do the most dmg

[brittle crow]

if u have to ask it doesnt matter

but mechagnome

[olive wraith]

Fury generates too much aggro

[spare steppe]

That it does

[ornate gust]

so what should i do to craft the 610 pvp item?

[pearl sequoia]

go to crafting order guy and find the item, will showw you everything you need, find a blacksmith in trade chat who can maake it, otherwise public order u might get a lower ilvl craft then you want

[slim grotto]

how many gilded crests do we get for a +9?

[pearl sequoia]

12 for timed, 5 for completion

pretty sure

[slim grotto]

And it's 90 for the enchanted gilded ya?

[ornate gust]

i did that.. it shows the item is 585 only

[pearl sequoia]

Yeppers

[slim grotto]

[pearl sequoia]

Yes because thats the Tier 1 crafted ilvl, at T5 it will be 610

so when its crafted you will get 610

[vapid mulch]

does it matter if i craft axe or sword? surely not right?

[slim grotto]

Yes. Sword is cooler.

[vague citrus]

Hey guys, I noticed the top warrs have differing talents for one point, mainly Frenzied Enrage v Powerful Enrage

[pearl sequoia]

Axe is cheaper to craft and has higher max hit but doesnt rlly matter

[vague citrus]

What is the reasoning/justification behind those picks

[ornate gust]

i see..

[olive wraith]

For raid or m+

[vague citrus]

for M+

[olive wraith]

Powerful is better burst

Frenzied I’d assume they want boss dmg

[drowsy iron]

Prolly depends on haste levels you get on gear
They likely sim both and see

[vague citrus]

yeah that makes sense, since they're doing +10

[pearl sequoia]

the 'best' warriors arent pushing so wont be top

people just gearing atm

[dense elbow]

Not wrong, but they are farming at the top-end of the crop

[vague citrus]

Is Dungeon Slice setting reliable for M+ sims

[drowsy iron]

Man the amount of healers I get in pugs that spend 60% of the dungeon on the floor is fucking unreal

[dense elbow]

Usually is, we will get corrected if it aint, Bomoh

[ornate gust]

still 558

[covert blaze]

no

just sim st

and then change to good m+ trinkets

[pearl sequoia]

Those forged combat crest, you need the conquest version

you can buy those for conquest at the pvp area

[ornate gust]

got it

[vague citrus]

appreciate the response sir.

[arctic raft]

We still crafting acension wep and doubler?

[vague citrus]

Frenzied Enrage is doing 8k more than Powerful Enrage on Sim ST with M+ trinkets

which is barely ~1% diff

hm

[winter shoal]

PE is much better for aoe

Because roar and OF get buffed by PE but not FE (I think)

People generally prefer to play with FE in raid if the damage is the same though, higher haste generally feels better

[vague citrus]

yeah i feel its just preferential gameplay. PE is definitely slower than FE

[pearl sequoia]

i think its more about haste in raid so you can pad quicker

in the short windows

like queen webs

Would make sense to me but i dont really knoww, copy top build and pull

[winter shoal]

No

Most are playing PE on Ansurek

[errant vessel]

Aren’t (almost) all dots hasted?

[pearl sequoia]

Sure on ansurek

Looking at top logs on the aoe bosses itss either or

or was when i checked

[winter shoal]

Rashanan is 75% PE as well, Ovi is 61% PE, Bloodbound is 67% PE, Silken Court is 65% PE

[pearl sequoia]

What top % is that

Or is that all logs

[winter shoal]

Top 100 logs per fight on heroic

I don't know the full theory, I'm mostly parroting what Archi said here #fury message

@warm crag explain your thought process behind PE here

[olive wraith]

Depends on the fight. PE means you can blow up adds faster with cooldowns (of/bs)

[unique frigate]

Is there some WA or something to know what can be reflected?

[winter shoal]

https://wago.io/pjl-p3su9

[unique frigate]

Thanks

[sullen dove]

perfectly balanced

[carmine hawk]

What is maxed crafted weapon ilvl we can get?

[winter shoal]

636

[carmine hawk]

Damn is it for mythic raid?

[winter shoal]

90 gilded crests

You can get them from M+

Or last two bosses on hc

[carmine hawk]

Can I do 616 and recraft later into 636 or is it massive resource loss?

[restive pewter]

is it worth crafting just the bracers with the writhing banding armor embellishment thing even if i dont have a crafted weap? (while i save for the gilded weapon)

[winter shoal]

Not sure where you're getting 616 but yeah the recraft with the gilded crest is much cheaper than the first craft

[winter shoal]

Not really since the embellish won't be doubling anything

[restive pewter]

yeahhhh thats what i feared

what do with this enchanted runed crest that i got from queen ansurek story mode then?

fuck it full send 619 crafted weap?

[rigid stirrup]

spears stack on 3rd boss of NW right?

[winter shoal]

Yes

[carmine hawk]

yeah my bad brain smooth cant read

[rigid stirrup]

hmm then i guess someone in my key didn't use theirs

[winter shoal]

I'm saving mine for wrist craft with next week's spark

[rigid stirrup]

becuase we had 3 and it shoudlv'e just melted

[restive pewter]

o shit you got the gilded weapon already?

[winter shoal]

I'm using 606 rn but I'll be recrafting to gilded once I have the crests, yes

Pugging +9s is despair

[restive pewter]

got you got you

[winter shoal]

I need like 50 more gilded crests

[restive pewter]

good luck brother

my ass cant even get into 9s lmao

[winter shoal]

I spend about 30 mins in queue on average I think

[restive pewter]

jesus

[winter shoal]

And I have yet to time a pug +9

I've timed a few with guild groups but people aren't always on

[restive pewter]

yeah

i gotta kill Hc broodtwister man

gating me from gear so bad

[winter shoal]

Brood is so easy if people don't grief the eggs

[warm crag]

wtf is PE

[restive pewter]

something about breaking the eggs and big dam on the parasites

[winter shoal]

Btw the slayer node removes web if you charge

[winter shoal]

Powerful enrage

[warm crag]

idk it hits harder in aoe

[winter shoal]

[clever belfry]

does more damage

big aoe spells dont really care about the extra haste

🤷‍♂️

[winter shoal]

ik, @vague citrus was asking about FE vs PE on aoe fights in raid I think

Anda are you back to brown man btw?

[clever belfry]

no

[warm crag]

no

[restive pewter]

so does augvoker do anything in particular

[warm crag]

a lot

[winter shoal]

Makes you not die I think

[clever belfry]

buff your character

[restive pewter]

ah

[fleet pulsar]

what about this, in ST it did 6% of my dps , is it woth for raiding ?

[charred panther]

Sim

Robot wise

[pearl sequoia]

❌

[charred panther]

Doubtful tho

[fleet pulsar]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/fSgQrrVwoKGAxB2dgXM6qU

hum

[steel void]

Any musthave weakauras or macros?

[pearl sequoia]

this

[coarse moon]

Should i prioritze crushing blows over bloodthirst for AOE? maxroll says i should do the latter

[runic violet]

that's the thing about fury rotations.

there is no perfect answer unless every single detail is considered

crushing blows hits the hardest with opportunist

but bloodthirst can be powered by other things and benefit other things too

crushing blow should be spent as often as possible but every once a while... BT(BB) has enough crit chance to apply good number of gushing wounds on AOE targets.

[summer quail]

not must have but the stance swap macro is very nice. saves you a keybind

[steel void]

do we stance swap much tho isnt it just defensive and berseker do we ever use defensive in pve

[summer quail]

Yes, dstance is huge in pve

the macro just swaps between the 2

[warm crag]

you can pretty much ignore it until you enter mythic or hard m+

[restive pewter]

my zugzug brain has the macro but never presses it

[steel void]

aha you use it to survive mechanics?

[restive pewter]

15% dr

pretty good button

so is er+dstance 45% dr or is that not how it works at all

[clever path]

so for ST, on iceveins there is one build, and then here on discord, there is another build, one has onslaught, one doesnt

its also state on iceveins to use onslaught when that build literally doesnt have it

[torpid sand]

It's the one without Onslaught

Use wowhead

It's more updated

And it's better