fury

[upbeat sentinel]

When they let Dracthyr be DKs I probably won’t main anything else ever again

[open prairie]

you think thats ever going to happen?

[upbeat sentinel]

Yes

The Ebon are still actively raising new DKs so there’s no justification for anything but Earthen and even then not rly

[open prairie]

how useful is glide even on dk

[upbeat sentinel]

Technically +30% movement speed if you spam it

on a class that lacks mobility HARD outside of Rider, super useful

[open prairie]

yeah thats one nice thing about rider but db has that dumb extra dr

i might make warrior a dragon

on patch

[upbeat sentinel]

And more AoE CC on a class that already feasts on it with Absolute Zero and Blinding Sleet

[open prairie]

barely touched that class since legionn

[upbeat sentinel]

Chaining RW Freeze into FWF freeze during Legion felt great

[open prairie]

still a belf from wod+legion golden era

[upbeat sentinel]

"This pack will not be playing for 10 seconds while we beat the fuck out of it"

[open prairie]

dont recall what fwf was tbh

that expac was bdks out the ass

also @tidal kindle needing a summon to every instance

[upbeat sentinel]

Big dragon you send out

[open prairie]

because he never got flying

oh the former 5min cd

[upbeat sentinel]

Yeah now its 1.5m

[open prairie]

wasnt it a lego that made it stun

[upbeat sentinel]

If you take Absolute Zero anyway which most builds seem to

ya

the lego also cut the CD

[tidal kindle]

Summon stones exist tyvm

[upbeat sentinel]

I'm 99% sure the Lego was also called Absolute Zero just like the talent is

[tidal kindle]

Playing the long game

Now you get flying everywhere all the time

[open prairie]

garm now that m+ portals exist

[open prairie]

might have been

alot of df trees were old legos

[teal pine]

KM Obliterate might be my favorite button in the game but non km obliterate is the most limp button I’ve ever pressed

[open prairie]

or azerite

[teal pine]

Need to play my dk more

Kinda hate how it feels open world

[upbeat sentinel]

Yeah Frost feels like absolute shit while Pillar of Frost is on CD

But when it's up RARARARARA

[open prairie]

its cd is so short

now isnt it

[upbeat sentinel]

45s

[open prairie]

fun police turned off azerite essences

in timewalking

[upbeat sentinel]

And Long Winter can increase duration of Pillar by 6s

[open prairie]

yeah i was gonna say

[upbeat sentinel]

so 18s duration on 45s CD

It won't consistently do that in current gear tho because it relies on autoattack crits

[teal pine]

Biggest issue I have with dk though is I’d only want to play frost. Unholy is just disgusting to me thematically, I’m not trying to burst sores

While with warrior I really like both arms and fury

[open prairie]

sometimes i wonder how i have the frost magetower look

i barely played that toon

[upbeat sentinel]

I mained DK for most of the time since they came out and have always hated the fuck out of Unholy

[open prairie]

Then again i dont recall doing prot war mage tower

yet have the flail

[leaden needle]

hey you smart people 😛

I have logs on wclogs from ebfore and after I race changed just the other day

is there a way to merge those?

[clever path]

Us? Wrong chat...I mean hey

[strange dove]

is it normal to feel inadequate in a group full of ret pallies outside of my 1.5min CDs every other trash pack? And how do I deal with this depression?

[sullen dove]

play arms and cleave

[leaden needle]

listen I'm so irked with ret pallies flying under the radar and everyone downplaying them lol

[olive wraith]

I ran with a frost dk earlier. Those guys pump

[clever path]

Id assume when you update chars it should, if not then send a ticket as something messed up, same happens with characters transfers if it ever shows both

[leaden needle]

I think a ticket is what I'll have to do the. thank you for your answer ^^

[clever path]

Nw, not an expert but they are for sure😅

[empty grove]

So just been picking warrior up. We prio rampage when CB isnt up and then CB bloodbath raging blow - right?

[gilded pawn]

Yeah

[dense elbow]

Ngl, even with my 1.5 I feel I fall short. Ret burst is the real deal now, we kinda got nothing special
At least ppl don't make snarky comments when I pop CDs anymore, so that is a W

[cedar depot]

something interesting happened, i did a t8 delve and got this weapon.

[gilded pawn]

Mr rich mcgee over here

[cedar depot]

its an ,8% dps increase over a 619 wild hammer

[gilded pawn]

R3 enchanting a champion track weapon

[dense elbow]

Gz on the weap, did you sim multi target as well?

[cedar depot]

its weaker on mt

[dense elbow]

When do you plan to use it?

[cedar depot]

nvm im a clown and simmed with both talents, its more like a .8% gain, probably pure ST fights

[dense elbow]

Hey the effect is cool, if nothing else

[empty grove]

do we run brutal finish in keys over the bladestorm one?

[dense elbow]

Dealers choice, st or mt. Bringing more st is worth considering

[cedar depot]

yeah maybe even decent on tyrannical

[gaunt moat]

do you guys have some bug on third boss from grim batol? we got killed by an add exploding while being in range, then we tried to find out the bug we tanked the little boss before it gets on his drake and the add exploded after being stunned???? while he was fixated on a shadow priest really far away

i can't seem to find any intel about it and ppl around here always seems to know something i don't!!

[restive pewter]

so if your ilvl% parse is low does that mean you should delete your warrior?

asking for a friend

[limpid tusk]

Apologies if this has asked before. When running bountiful (and with a map) delves, should I switch to Arms before opening chests to make it more likely for them to drop 2-handers?

[gaunt moat]

yes

[oblique trail]

You should always be in Arms lootspec

[restive pewter]

lowkey i think you should just stay arms loot spec

[gaunt moat]

always stay in arms loot if you don't want one handers

[limpid tusk]

(I'm new if you didnt pick up on it from my last msg) I guess I should have done that before I droped a hero 1-handed sword from a delve where I popped a map...

I know for the future though lol

[olive wraith]

I swap to fury in raid

[limpid tusk]

Why?

[olive wraith]

So I can roll on 1h for prot

[limpid tusk]

That's fair, I guess if you plan on playing the offspec

[cyan flint]

Didnt see the hotfixes and thought i was tripping balls how i kept losing the kiss of death trinket buff. Why they do that 🙃

[tidal kindle]

Nope I'm in prot

Got my shield

Now need 1h

ProteG on the comeup

[oblique trail]

Benzaiprot isn't happening anytime soon

Even though I got a normal shield from raid

[tidal kindle]

Idk keys as fury

While fury kinda owns at current homework levels

Just isn't fun

Idk

I run w/ arcane mage / fdk usually and they have same CD timings and do more dam

[oblique trail]

Try AM =)

[tidal kindle]

W/ better profile

[oblique trail]

(dont)

[fiery meadow]

hey, new to the discord so apologies if I missed this somewhere but is there a channel for macros?

[tidal kindle]

I'll give it a try

It'd work better w/ how fdk/arcane timings line up

[oblique trail]

I did by accident with Crit

It does not feel good

[tidal kindle]

Did you play

Full 45s build

AM / 45s roar

[oblique trail]

I didn't

[tidal kindle]

O

[oblique trail]

I only had AM

[tidal kindle]

That could be decent I think

Not insane

But decent

[oblique trail]

Because it wasn't intentional xd

[dense elbow]

AM feels alright, does alright dam too. 45s roar too

A good break from weak 1.5min lineup

[oblique trail]

Mind you I still did the most overall but

EVERYTHING was desynced

[covert blaze]

flex

[tidal kindle]

With arcane/FDK

I play more around bladestorm burst

Than I do reck/ava

Tbh

Lmao

BS > brutal finish

[winter shoal]

How's boss dam? Kinda stinky right?

[oblique trail]

It was okay

But not amazing no

[dense elbow]

A bit lower, but works well enough in NW and so on - where boss get add support

[winter shoal]

I mean NW is free except surgeon right

And I feel like you're throwing if you don't play RA for that

[dense elbow]

Just spin the abo and 🙏

If anyone got sound advice for that boss, I will take it. doing my 2nd attempt at it on 10 tomorrow
It just melts the team so fast

any neato cheato ways to stop the tick dam

[open prairie]

NW is just weird

[oblique trail]

kill the abom

[open prairie]

they changed count

for….reasons

[sullen dove]

Forced to fight marrowgar

[dense elbow]

Moving adds around too was weird a f

[summer quail]

i kinda agree atm. fury feels weird in keys, i just tanked my first 10 and was more fun ngl

[open prairie]

wait you didnt have chimps who buttpulled him every week in SL?

[tidal kindle]

@oblique trail we try it

10 SV

[oblique trail]

Basically waht I did minus uproar

[dense elbow]

If AM, why no OS for big hit and many rage?

[open prairie]

what did you drop for uproar

oh teeth point

[winter shoal]

Greg's AM sims from the sheet had swift instead of DE, idk if that matters

[clever path]

Hows everyone feeling about fury in M+

[winter shoal]

Good if you don't rip aggro

[dense elbow]

It is decent

[tidal kindle]

I don't think I run this for stonevault

Tbh

Twins boss

With lesser boss dam

[dense elbow]

Just reflect the cast

[open prairie]

double warrior comp

reflect every cast

[tidal kindle]

[winter shoal]

You got ranged kicks you're chillin

[open prairie]

bruh

me when i say i got reflect

gets kicked

no reflect cast goes through

[dense elbow]

Well, duh

[junior gale]

no one is gonna let melt go off so you can reflect

[tidal kindle]

I'm literally in voic

"I reflect" "I reflect" "I reflect" "I reflect" "I reflect"

has interrupted X cast

For mists first boss

Or w.e other single cast

[open prairie]

do you need to taunt for twins

[dense elbow]

[open prairie]

to reflect it

not sure if that boss melees

[winter shoal]

Can we not reflect the lava cannon anymore btw

In SV

I remember seeing crit do that on beta

[open prairie]

big brain is full nelf comp

so people meld the random target casts

[tribal flint]

This is why NE is BiS

[winter shoal]

ong this patch is the first time I've been considering race changing, aggro is so wild these days

[tribal flint]

You can feign death on half the pulls. It’s won me keys

[dense elbow]

How rip threat when other class do more dam? Warrior bonk weak, no drum of war

[open prairie]

idk the worst was

legion skittish weeks

pop bc

90% chance you get mauled

[dense elbow]

Skittish with legion opener, dios mio

Good thing I was a nelf

[open prairie]

yeah i mean as soon as you dropped rav bc moonglaives

sometimes leaping out of melee was good idea

[restive pewter]

are we playing st or cleave build on nm ansurek

[dense elbow]

Moonglaives in my minds nostalgic eye, was fun

[restive pewter]

prob st right

[winter shoal]

Cleave

[restive pewter]

oh

[winter shoal]

You don't lose much boss dam and you gain GIGA pad add dam

[restive pewter]

pad

LMAO

[open prairie]

probably depends

[restive pewter]

whats that look like for a parse

you goat

[open prairie]

real gamer speedrun

or 75% of the group is boosts

[dense elbow]

Why not both

[winter shoal]

99 but normal parses are meaningless esp on add fights

If your group needs more boss dam, you can go ST, but we're REALLY efficient at killing adds without losing much boss dam

Also normal Ansurek is a pure mechanics check, not a dps/heal check

[restive pewter]

me looking at my purple normal parses

they mean nothing

[winter shoal]

I mean adds just don't have any health on normal and there are a lot of add fights

[dense elbow]

I prob got blues, so feel good friendo

[winter shoal]

Only one person gets to do any meaningful amount of dam to adds

Everyone else just suffers

[restive pewter]

yeah thats fair

[winter shoal]

You can be playing 100% correctly and do "bad" dam because people like me get all the add dam to ourselves

That said, fury is really good at sniping those adds in 1-2 globals, so you can be the one yoinking all the add dam for yourself

[low folio]

man those aboms in necroitc wakes 3rd boss are way too strong lol

[south chasm]

does 4pc change our rotation?

[low folio]

4 piece is literally useless

[south chasm]

looks like it XD

[open prairie]

those aboms are kinda strong if you leave them up too long yes

[clever belfry]

@tidal kindle grip check

[open prairie]

generally speaking if stitchflesh goes back to his platform the abom should not still be alive

[dense elbow]

That feels so wrong

Abo 2nd hook is there to grab him instantly back down

Speaking of, abo just got nerfed by 20%

[jolly kindle]

Evening all, coming over from season 3 dragonflight you used to send cooldowns in pairs due to cdr if i remember correctly. I understand how to send the CDS on pull, but in what order would I normally pair them as they come up. Or what do i wait for to come up to send any of them with? Sorry if this isnt worded the best

[dense elbow]

You hold BS if avatar is around 7 sec away, rest just lines up
Details is in the guide/fact section

[clever belfry]

3rd

2nd is for the fixate

[jolly kindle]

thank you so much~

[eager thorn]

its 10s no?

and thats for st

[dense elbow]

Fair, I didn't count the one that pulled down the boss on mah head

[winter shoal]

It's 9s in both st and aoe

[eager thorn]

surely aoe is a lot more situational

[winter shoal]

It is not

I mean

In practice it is

In sims it's not

[dense elbow]

It is,ye

[eager thorn]

sims are for nerds

[maiden hearth]

is 45s roar worth running over 2/2 armored teeth? trying to get a feel for it but cant tell

[agile crystal]

For both pvp and pve, what % of mastery/haste to aim for? Rn i have 20% m, 21% v, 12% h, 9% c

[eager thorn]

i ran it on hc ovinax cos it lined up nicely but not sure about other situations

[winter shoal]

I've been playing it for low-ish (9s and below) keys and I like it, haven't tried it in raid

[maiden hearth]

yeah mainly thinking m+ i tank raid rn

[dense elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/i-hate-you-anakin-star-wars-gif-10358450

[winter shoal]

PvP idk, for PvE however much raidbots tells you

[agile crystal]

😦

[agile crystal]

ok ty

[eager thorn]

i wanna see the anger management build that got cooked

[sullen dove]

Are u ready

Are you ready

You just

[eager thorn]

no i am mudslap

[sullen dove]

swap ra for am

😮‍💨

[dense elbow]

If there is no OS, it failed

[winter shoal]

But swordish

Greg's sim build has swift isntead of DE

Therefore you are wrong and cannot be trusted

[sullen dove]

idk what either of those are pick the number that makes you happy

Go fast better than more enrage die enrage

zoom

[winter shoal]

Those two

Greg's AM build from the sim sheet has swift strikes instead of deft

I think there's also a different APL but I cba learning it, I'm just gonna play RA and vibe

[sullen dove]

what is this.

[eager thorn]

onslaught

[sullen dove]

[sullen dove]

banned ability

[junior gale]

NW free now

[sullen dove]

Huh

[winter shoal]

Never fear bud it's just my elvui

[sullen dove]

It rly lights up when not in use weirdge

[winter shoal]

Still can't get into pug 9s though gg

[eager thorn]

i cant get into 5s sometimes :/

[winter shoal]

Swordish wtb 9s carries

But not actually buy them

Just be carried for free

[oblique trail]

Just be high enough ilvl and anyone'll invite you

[eager thorn]

ye

[winter shoal]

I need to get gilded crests to recraft my weapon to get ilvl

[eager thorn]

im only 611 rn

[winter shoal]

Vicious cycle gg

Same

I did get sacbrood from the one +9 ara kara I timed though so we vibing

[eager thorn]

large

[dense elbow]

I can't get into 9s, only 10s, send help

[eager thorn]

only loot ive got from >7 is some legs which ig ill catalyse

[agile crystal]

Where can i see on raidbots sim what stats i should get?

[spare steppe]

any numbers on how much gatekeepers are worth now

[oblique trail]

Through using Top Gear and using whatever it recommends you put on

[winter shoal]

#fury message

[oblique trail]

If you don't know how to sim, you can find guides, video or text, on how to sim

[agile crystal]

tyy bro 🙂

[compact knot]

im so glad i passed on this key

[winter shoal]

Honestly props to the people who persisted

[eager thorn]

they lusting every pack or smth wtf

[winter shoal]

Weekly no leaver to the max

[compact knot]

they had like 210 deaths

[compact knot]

i promise you they didnt want to persist

[winter shoal]

God's greatest soldiers or whatever the saying is

[eager thorn]

time to try out AM + uproar build

surely the best of both worlds is smth good

[gusty plinth]

yo any tips for threat

Broodtwister is a pain cuz I generate so much fucking threat instantly by just pressing reck/avatar It feels random when I'm allowed to actually use my CDs or risk getting blown up instantly

[stoic carbon]

Im terrible but I just hold my cds for the first adds but my guild also sucks.

[winter shoal]

cc on adds, wait longer, or go night elf

Or just pop ER before your cds and pray

[tidal kindle]

If I'm unsure of threat

I'll natty rampage once

Then pop CDs

You lose some damage on the meter but losing some damage > losing life

[winter shoal]

On god I sometimes rip threat with a charge > ww

Like I didn't even do any (real) damage

This was earlier, that's the hit damage of roar on a single target that ripped aggro and got me 1shot

[restive pewter]

one day ill be a real fury

[winter shoal]

Post logs bud

[restive pewter]

oh

sure

here or in log review

[winter shoal]

Will peep after this key

[restive pewter]

bet take your time

[tribal flint]

I done that shit lmao

[coarse moon]

should ret pallies be out dpsing me in m+? i swear im following rotation..

[winter shoal]

Depends

[tribal flint]

Ret paladins do more sustained damage but you should be beating them on bosses

A good ret paladin will do like 2 mill on every pack I feel like no matter how big or small

But then you zug zug a 6 mill on their face

[oblique trail]

88~ average is a lot better than you might think

An unreal amount of people struggle averaging low blue parses

[dry bone]

am i tripping or do we do less ST and less AOE than fuckin frost DKs and we got nerfed?

[olive wraith]

We were stomping in them in raid

And then we took an aura to the knee

[dry bone]

yeah but the raid is just timing

they shit on us in m+ lol

maybe my fury warrior is shittily optimized

but its simming like 400k lower in dungeon slice at almost the same ilvl lol

[signal tinsel]

Frost dk bursts every minute I think

I do know that my arms Sims are Hella higher than fury but don't seem real when I try to recreate, I might be messing up the rotation quite a bit idk

[coarse moon]

im simming more than the ret pally in dungeon slice sims but still getting out dpsed in m+. wonder if rotation issue

[dry bone]

i suspect it depends on the level of keys

shit may just die too fast in lowewr keys

our burst is not as high as say frost, but outside of our CDs, we def have better sustained dmg

[rain sierra]

How many of you run Uproar in M+? Is the 45 cd on Roar better to use then having on 1.30 cd and 5% extra stenrgth?

[restive peak]

We have the highest burst in the game btw

[olive wraith]

I think part of the problem is(at least in my keys) tanks are doing smaller pulls in general compared to DF

[young swan]

this is like the complete opposite

frost is just insane so they have big burst + big sustain

but our peak is higher

[young swan]

peaked a 7mil in stonevault no aug

[olive wraith]

I’ll agree ret feels like they have an advantage at least right now

Such short burst windows

[young swan]

are u aware of the coagmalation tech btw

[tribal flint]

Is there any real point to running delves anymore? Like should I be pushing them

[young swan]

uh

anything u could get from delve vault can be replaced by spamming m+

so im gonna say

no

[tribal flint]

Already have619 weapons

[coarse moon]

should ret pallies be outdpsing us in m+? my dungeon slice sims 300k+ more than the ret pally but getting consistently outdpsed

[young swan]

ret is OP in pug/low key levels cause they just brain off press cd's on cd and vape

[tribal flint]

Depends on the pulls. If your tank is pulling big you should win. If your tank is doing smaller pulls the ret will win. Lower keys typically have small pulls

[restive peak]

Wut tell me

[young swan]

in an organized setting you should beat them tho

[young swan]

second wind just OP as fuck

basically just soak 3 orbs no cares cause it doesnt break second wind

[tribal flint]

Getting a low CD aoe stun in keys was the real big win for warriors too

[young swan]

just makes the mechanic omega free cause other dps dont really need to worry

[coarse moon]

Good to know ty

[restive peak]

Ooooo

[drifting pond]

stonevault +6 is really fun and enjoyable 🙂

[young swan]

try +10

[drifting pond]

i get cancer from +6 already

im good

[young swan]

machine speakers is basically a raid boss

actually insane

everything else is easy tho

well last boss hallway is fucked on fort

[winter shoal]

So many bosses like that this season

[young swan]

but the bosses arent bad

[winter shoal]

Whole key is free and then one boss is just gg

[young swan]

I actually really like the entire dungeon theres just some giga cringe sections

[eager thorn]

one day the other pugs in my group wont 1 shot all 3 crystals on skarm

[restive peak]

damn we like, ty

[hollow shell]

So I currently play with a blood DK tank and I am not able to burst on pull because I rip threat and die. I was just wondering if this is a regular occurence and I should continue to not do any real dps for 6-7 seconds to give him time to build aggro?

Atm i walk in, whirlwind, raging blow, raging blow, blood thirst, rampage and then I do my regular rotation. Just to give him some time to build threat etc

[drifting pond]

thats just a warrior feature

dw

[hollow shell]

Okay so its completely normal to have to hold off on pull, thats all i really wanted to know tyty

[olive wraith]

It’s scary

[buoyant salmon]

build one rampage then use cds

tank should have threat established by then

[hollow shell]

Yeah sweet thats been my current method as well, appreciate it :)

[sudden tusk]

man

fury feels like dogshit in keys rn

[fiery hare]

Like feels good when we have cds (read bladestorm) , then after cds everyone and their mum does more aoe

[winter shoal]

What kinda keys are you doing

I'm fuckin vibing brother

[sudden tusk]

9-10s

[winter shoal]

Uproar and OF up every pack

[sudden tusk]

we do far less damage then the better classes

[winter shoal]

BS up most packs

[sudden tusk]

we got overnerfed

[winter shoal]

Idk I get gapped by our WW because he's a gamer but other than that I keep up with other classes, and I shit on most pugs

[winter shoal]

Largely agreed but I think we're still good

[tidal kindle]

Free

Just have all 5 people in comms and know how to play their class

[sudden tusk]

community went boo boo pee pee warrior doing good in my heroics cry until nerf while Shaman/ret/rogue/mage all get to skate by

[tidal kindle]

Blizz also had like

Base key data

W/ no affix

On beta

Where fury also excels

But in later, more relevant keys, falls off hard

It's okay

ProtThane

📈

[sudden tusk]

thsi is my gear and im losing in oveall to fucking 610 ret pallies

[tidal kindle]

Yah but they do Z st

So who care

[main cave]

yall liking thane in m+?

[sage hearth]

yup, its happening

[silver linden]

Think they nerfed us a bit too much lol

[sudden tusk]

about to just play arms

obviously blizzard wants it to be the spec

[sage hearth]

yup

2 in a ro

row

[fiery hare]

Every 30 sec rets gave giga burst + shitloads of divine storms

[sudden tusk]

Oh no warrior does big dps when the adds die before the 4 second bladestorm cast even ends oooogh nooooo

[sage hearth]

2 nerfs in a row

before m+ week

nice

[sage hearth]

yeah bro, its only ret pallies in m+

[slate escarp]

Fury was overtuned whag do u mean watch the numbers from logs hahah

We do twice the dmg on Endboss the 2. Guy was doing haha

[silver linden]

ya we needed a nerf, 1 was fine

[unique frigate]

Imo fury is still very good

[slate escarp]

Fury is in a good spot we doing a lot of dmg in m+ every pack we have something up

[tidal kindle]

It's good because we are strong out the gate

[sage hearth]

yes, but I hate watching ret pala burst non-stop

[tidal kindle]

Give it 3 weeks

[silver linden]

true i have to sweat to keep up with the rets lol

[sudden tusk]

Should have nerfed BS and OF by 15% each then givin us a +5% aura

[fiery hare]

There are times when we got nothing and thats the worst part 😦

[drifting pond]

I feel like fury is too simple that it hurts my brain to min max rotation

[sage hearth]

the second nerf before the first going live its wild

[sick horizon]

Our 4 piece doesn’t do much does it

[fiery hare]

Our base stuff needs to be stronger

[sudden tusk]

doing less damage then other classes with the fun pog utility of a single 2s stun and a 5 mob capped fear

[silver linden]

Furys Tier set is the laziest thing ive ever seen

[sudden tusk]

very cool blizzard

[slate escarp]

Our set bonus are doggy shit

[silver linden]

Some dude threw that together in 5 mins

[sick horizon]

Yeah I just got it and simmed, 1.2% dmg increase in ST from 2 piece

It’s like whoever designed it doesn’t play the spec at all

[fiery hare]

They should hire arch so we have someone competent there

[trail tendon]

i keep getting 1 handed weapons when i loot shit, should i spec into arms loot or stay with fury loot spec?

[fiery hare]

Arms yes

[rain sierra]

always loot arms spec

[trail tendon]

ah okay

i just finished black temple quest

i got a 1h axe

big sad

[silver linden]

ya always arms

[trail tendon]

thanks guys

[silver linden]

tho i wish they would make single minded fury do the same dmg as 2h

[trail tendon]

agreed

[unique frigate]

When simming for aoe do u guys just put 5 bosses?

[trail tendon]

i just do dungeon slice tbh

[restive peak]

I do ST w 5, 8 and 10 bosses

For 2mins

Realistically how long a big pull may last as you get to high keys

Even then it's basically just ST gear w trinket swaps

[slow quest]

anyone knows how to sim Top Gear for new jewelry? specifically to only add 2 sockets to the selected* jewelry not everything

[slow quest]

oops nvm just realised I can clone each item with [+] and add max sockets

[quartz tulip]

just got this dog shit even having arms loot spec from timewalkin

[somber elk]

Are timewalking Bosses dropping hero track or is it the chest ?

[quartz tulip]

the chest but definitely something going on with this fuckin item

[prisma rose]

kinda sadge that with my dh and ret i have a WAY easier time getting invited to keys

specially ret

[quartz tulip]

cause alot of people are looting it with arms as their set loot spec

just have giga ilvl and io

or have a dh tank friend

ez pz

[prisma rose]

even with giga ilvl and io i bet i would get more invites on both those classes under same circunstances lol

[hasty sierra]

LF some fury warr advice. New to the class and spec

[quartz tulip]

Press ur buttons don’t think about rotation to much macro ur cooldowns and slam enjoy the game

[placid flax]

[quartz tulip]

what else do u need

[hasty sierra]

last few mythics, I press buttons, and hit bladestorm

rip aggro and die xD

[quartz tulip]

welcome to the club

[tidal kindle]

Press a few more buttons

Before pressing those buttons

[hasty sierra]

LOL

[quartz tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/misinformation-spreading-spreading-misinformation-online-gif-4543841945782036495

[hasty sierra]

what's a good overall for a 600 ilvl fury?

[quartz tulip]

1mil +

[hasty sierra]

damn so I am doing something wrong

[vivid lagoon]

I got the 4 set tier and man wtf is this tier there is nothing special about it lol

[vivid lagoon]

It’s not 1Mil lol

[hasty sierra]

Normally I hit around 550 to 600k overall after a mythic

so im not sure

[vivid lagoon]

I think usually is 600k to 800k

[hasty sierra]

okay so im not far off atleast

well maybe a bit

[last bobcat]

Thats my experience too

On wednesday i was the guy getting pi and popping off

Now im just shit

Unnerf us pls

[olive wraith]

Bring back anni but make it cleave

[vivid lagoon]

I don’t know it feel good playing fury in mythic +

[deft sleet]

we are shit in m+ because our aoe is trash outside of our burst cooldowns

[vivid lagoon]

What is hard is find a good group

[deft sleet]

they nerfed us for raid

now we are gutted in m+

[last bobcat]

Its impossible to catch up with a pala, and i have to sweat real hard to do resonable damage that would justify me being in a +9 or 10 key

[quartz tulip]

sounds like personal problems

[last bobcat]

Other classes are doing 1mil + overall easy

[deft sleet]

not just pally, shammy too, everything

[vivid lagoon]

But look just think about how easy it would be if fury was not nerfed we could Zerg those adds and this raid got adds almost every fight

[last bobcat]

Maybe im just shit or need to do something with the gear, dobt even have a 2 set yet

But the set isnt that good anyway ye

[vivid lagoon]

If you want next week we can group and I can help you get tier

I can’t need for you

[quartz tulip]

im like 612 ilvl and get over 1 mil on every dungeon

[vivid lagoon]

Can*

[chrome relic]

weapon done now jsut time to farm one more trinket chat

[quartz tulip]

you all sleeping in ur dungeons or what

[deft sleet]

yeah 1m is low now

the rest of classes

do 1.2-1.3

[quartz tulip]

sweat more i guess

[deft sleet]

its not possible lol

[chrome relic]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[deft sleet]

our aoe in small packs is trash

[last bobcat]

HOW

[deft sleet]

how do u have a 639 weapon

[chrome relic]

im him bro

(jk i got 1st boss wep)

[last bobcat]

Aaah

[tidal kindle]

Advantage was having CDs up every pack w/ AM
Now DK has CDs up every pack, and arcane does our CD timing (90s) better

[vivid lagoon]

He is a mythic player

[tidal kindle]

[deft sleet]

thats from mythic 1st boss?

o

what about the 2nd wep

[chrome relic]

2nd is crafted

[tidal kindle]

I think if you want to be degen you could play double on use w/ 45s build

And do bigly overall

But boss dam would be lacking

[chrome relic]

u guys just gotta pump

[vivid lagoon]

How you pump us

[chrome relic]

kinda

[vivid lagoon]

Give us that carry

Lol

[chrome relic]

i got u king

just lmk when

[vivid lagoon]

This dude is the man

[chrome relic]

https://tenor.com/view/the-sopranos-tony-soprano-wink-gif-22817220

[vivid lagoon]

Today I saw that ring drop from queen heroic and normal I didn’t win not even one

[tidal kindle]

https://tenor.com/bpWqn.gif

[vivid lagoon]

Lost the roll

lol

[chrome relic]

damn king

next week

in da vault

100%

[vivid lagoon]

I hope

At least I don’t need anymore tier I got my 4 set to 619

[deft sleet]

i already used all my runed crest

[leaden needle]

yeah nerfing us inside of our cooldowns was one thing, but then they nerfed us outside of our cooldowns too like wtf. at least just pick one Blizz ><

[versed frost]

5% speed from ring lol nice proc
btw why are gem sockets so expensive .__. my gold

[summer crater]

Almost everything is still ridiculously expensive

[calm quartz]

using that on a champion ring is 🅱️razy

[lavish mauve]

Thats the sign of having fy money

[delicate yacht]

But you can buy the 616 heroic ring for less than those gems , and it doesn't have crit , uwu

[sudden tusk]

thats it

stonevault is banned with pugs

[vivid lagoon]

Hahahahabah

I failed my +7 stone vault today it was sad

[acoustic yoke]

You also getting farmed by the two guys too in pugs?

[vivid lagoon]

Tank go and get the whole shit as soon as we start and wiped us like 4 times

And he said let’s just finish lol

[versed frost]

616 ring on AH is 450k gold, both gem sockets and gems were only 25k

also the heroic ring has versality which I hate :P

and no haste

infact, what a shit ring :D

[coral dock]

At least you got something you could use if you play prot at all. I got yet another ring. That probably makes my 20th ring or so that I’ve gotten. Oh and idk if I’m cursed or not but I still haven’t even gotten one weapon drop. I’m rocking a 619 and 590, both crafted.

I’ve even gotten several cloth armor drops that are around from keys, which is funny because I don’t even have a cloth wearer in my warband.

[leaden needle]

this is me with cloaks. it's all cloaks cloaks cloaks. which I've got crafted cloak so they

are all just dead drops xx

[idle wolf]

if i'm not raiding mythic is it safe to use my harmonized silk on hero track gear?

[stuck sentinel]

Anyone else find out they’re in prot stance instead of zerker at the end of farm?

[meager void]

https://wago.io/D95uPp67U

[stuck sentinel]

Ty

[swift citrus]

Hi

What should I craft 1st?

For raiding*

[pulsar prawn]

#dps-faq

imagine this for PVE / sparks

[versed frost]

Blizzard knows fury exists :o

[leaden needle]

oh yeah they know we exist alright. just not sure that's a good thign recently xD

[nocturne dragon]

may I see the full link?

[pulsar prawn]

just go on wowhead

[stuck sentinel]

Weapon then bracers

Weapon with ascendancy then wrists that double its proc rate

Bracers should be available next week as that’ll be your 3rd spark

[restive pewter]

Are we all crafting weapon with the free enchanted runed crest from the story mode ansurek?

[slate escarp]

can i sim for m+? or just ST sim and go for it?

[restive pewter]

There’s dungeon slice right

[slate escarp]

is this really a thing?

[restive pewter]

Or you could go 5 target 45s sim

But let someone smarter than me answer probably

[pulsar prawn]

no you use that for wrist. you craft 636 weapon

[restive pewter]

Ah

You don’t think we’re still a while out from 90 gilded though?

I was thinking it could be value

[potent thicket]

Ngl wrists are a paaain to get x_x

[pulsar prawn]

just reuse a 590 or 610 pvp item for embelish

[restive pewter]

But I guess I’d you’re pushing keys well you gonna hit those 90 gilded sooner rather than later

if*

[potent thicket]

Yeah i might do that

[pulsar prawn]

yeah ill got 24 gilded before the ID startet.. so its like 5 keys or so.. depends on your depletion etc

[restive pewter]

Oh wow it’s only 5 9s for that many gilded?

Idk how many gilded per 9

or do 10+ give more per level

[pulsar prawn]

12 timed. 5 deplete .. if im not wrong

[restive pewter]

Oh okay

That’s not the worst

But idk if I got the juice like that to time a 9

[pulsar prawn]

yeah so you see why we from 610 to 636 weapon 😄

crest elsewhere are just better

[pulsar prawn]

606-610 delve gear and some decent m+ trinkets.. maybe sprinkle some heroic raid gear on top. could be enough 🙂

[leaden needle]

imagine ever getting your trinkets out of m+

couldn't be me xD

[restive pewter]

Yeah I’m sitting at 610 rn

Lucked out with heroic set shoulders and a champ track mark of khadros

but people just straight up do not take me for 7s

Impossible to get hero gear

[slate escarp]

i have 614 and didnt get any invites fpr 6-8 xD

[restive pewter]

yeah I really have no idea what people are looking for

Gotta be signed to liquid to get an invite I guess

[slate escarp]

they searching for ppl with 2700 rio in this week 😄

[restive pewter]

wild

I saw some people at 2500 yesterday

Shit is nuts

[slate escarp]

its not that hard, just play some 9

but if u didnt get invites lol

[pallid brook]

is charged claymor worth going for at these prices

[golden dragon]

hey guys, do i set my loot spec for arms for only two hands in loot table ?

[leaden needle]

yeah definitely. I was lucky to only learn that lesson on like week 1 world chest loot xD

[restive pewter]

yeah for sure stay in arms loot spec

[willow cradle]

What's are people charging for it in trade chat?

[pallid brook]

like 8k but matts on me kinda deal

or 5k depends

[golden dragon]

46k mats :/

[willow cradle]

5 k ain't that bad for a tip especially since unless you have full artisan tools you have to spend a good chunk of concentration even at max skill

[golden dragon]

aint that hard to farm tho but meh for me atm

[willow cradle]

The mats are the expensive part for sure

[pallid brook]

46k matts? charged alloy alone is 35k lol

[errant vessel]

Timing them with pugs is the hard part

[pallid brook]

sant alloy for 6 is 38

[willow cradle]

They should hopefully go down in price as people get the skill to craft them without concentration at rank 3

[pallid brook]

thats why im wondrin

[golden dragon]

is this US prices?

[pallid brook]

eu

[willow cradle]

But again you need maxxed skill and maxxed tools otherwise your forced to spend concentration

[pallid brook]

if its the wep till rest of season i dont mind ngl

[golden dragon]

ah yes you are right, somehow craftsim aint refreshing the price

[pallid brook]

if my next vault item goes over it doe ima be livid

[willow cradle]

I wouldn't bother crafting it till you can make it 636 if mat pricing is a big deal to you

[pallid brook]

is not tbh

for some reason i hate being wasteful ingame

[willow cradle]

I would offer to help with the actual crafting but I am NA

[willow cradle]

I get that, it's the goblin gamer in all of us lol

[pallid brook]

on sims without ascendance its 2% increase less see wit

3 hmm

ye idono why i do it lol

i might just go for it because at this point

[willow cradle]

Humans are kinda hard wired to think "what if I need this for survival" even when there's like no survival aspect

[pallid brook]

100k hmm

aite i need just one person to tell me to get it

i am that easy to push

[willow cradle]

Lmao

What weps do you currently have?

[pallid brook]

syringe and some axe

[willow cradle]

You said 3% sim increase with embelishment

[golden dragon]

ive craft 590 since i knew i wont see a wep drop for ages

[willow cradle]

Sorry I meant more so like the ilvl

[pallid brook]

yea over my 606 axe

and a 613 wep

[pallid brook]

ill be honest i got kinda lucky wit that

[willow cradle]

And so that I get an idea of how easy you could get a weapon

What content do you play?

[pallid brook]

bit of everthing i guess

not so much m raiding i guess

just hc and m+

[willow cradle]

Raid with guild or pugging?

[pallid brook]

guild fo sho

i guess it could be good to wait till i get a higher crest than 619 n shieet

[willow cradle]

Aight so first boss drops a two hander that you can upgrade to 619 fairly easily

[pallid brook]

ye

doesnt feel like such a must have wep ill admit

[willow cradle]

I guess my question would then be, if the weapon from ulgarax dropped, how many players are you competing with for the drop?

[pallid brook]

not many prolly

[willow cradle]

Aight, I'd personally recommend waiting til you have the gilded crest to make the crafted 636

[pallid brook]

i guess its better to wait till i can also make the bracers too

well this saved me a 100k for now

not bad

[tulip kindle]

Rampage - I have to use it on 100 rage or how often I can ?

[willow cradle]

Not exactly

Try to always spend both Crushing Blow and Bloodbath before

Unless you are no longer enraged

[summer crater]

I have to say I like that I generally only need to be healed about 25%-50% less than other dps in mythics

[willow cradle]

I'd recommend looking at the wowhead guide for a more thorough explanation and even a listed priority

[summer crater]

By the healer

[willow cradle]

Yeah Fury has a lot of passive mitigation combined with passive self sustaining via BT and CSHB

Plus VR and Spell Reflect are just fantastic abilities

[summer crater]

Yeah the really short cooldown on spell reflect

[tulip kindle]

Where I can get full rotation , in guide is only how start

[summer crater]

Often aligns up perfectly with many of their aoe abilities too

[fiery harbor]

anyone managed to do Tier ?? zekvir WITHOUT shadowmeld >.>?

eggs just dont die without all cooldowns

invis pots dont work sadly

[restive pewter]

anyone got a quick stance dance macro

oh found it in the faq

[unique frigate]

When u self dispel with bs or charge on ovinax does it go onto other players?

[restive pewter]

you can do that?

on the web thing?

[unique frigate]

Ive been leaping away to somewhere that has no players and charge back clearing it

Yeah it counts as mvmnt impairing effect

[restive pewter]

oh its lit

[willow cradle]

The start pretty much highlights Fury's priority system

[unique frigate]

And looks like it that it just removes it, so it dont go to other players, its pretty nice, if about to burst with bs dont have to run away to get dispelled

Or just leap somewhere and charge right back in

Noticed this yesterday

[eternal sundial]

if you leap out and bs

you have trolled your entire guild on the boss

same if you OF/ava

just get a dispell and use your AOE cds for their intended purpose

[unique frigate]

Both removes it u don't have to bs

And just if it lines up nicely u can dispel it nicely

And leaping and charging is faster than waiting for dispel, especially when it dont transfer to other people, and u get some load out from healers

[eternal sundial]

ur burning ur dps cd

make your healers play the game

[unique frigate]

What you mean? If i get web and about to use bs anyways for the adds, just means i dont have to waste seconds 😄

[eternal sundial]

you said u leap out

[unique frigate]

Its the other option

[oblique trail]

Don't bs with the snare on you in the middle of the raid

[unique frigate]

Leap and charge back removes it aswell

Because of relentless pursuit hero talent

[oblique trail]

I haven't tested if it's for some reason an exception, but I can't see why bs would be an exception causing it to not root everyone around you if you do

[unique frigate]

It makes you immune to shit like that, kinda makes u think it dont pop it onto other ppl

[winged sail]

is that right talent for M+>?

its on wowhead for m+ builds

[oblique trail]

You dispel it, which means it explodes

[oblique trail]

Yes

Even if it sounds counter intuitive, Culling Cyclone does more damage in an ST scenario than AoE, compared to Brutal Finish which has a higher and equal value on all targets, regardless of target count

[winged sail]

Thank you

[restive pewter]

what are all the beast mode gold farmers in here doing, is it just gathering and selling all the shit you get

please dont tell me its gathering and selling all the shit you get

ptsd flashbacks of lost ark excavating

[errant vessel]

Because of the wording on Culling I thought it was each time BS hit something

Meaning 20% increased dmg on BS always

Makes sense why they’d say it’s split dmg now

[dark ice]

Anyway second boss in boralus is bugged? She kept casting gut shot even tho tank was hitting her

[nocturne dragon]

The brutal finish also triggered from the mini BS?

[grave lark]

no

[errant vessel]

^ It’s a different spell than BS

[fiery harbor]

@mossy fox im tryina get Let Me Solo Him, but i dont have shadowmeld, tho i did discover you can get 5% str with the campfire if you eat Forbidden Flounder out of combat. why did you go with arms over fury? what advantage did arms bring to the fight? and is it doable without shadowmeld rn? thanks

the only issue i have is that i cannot kill the eggs if i dont have avatar up

[kindred notch]

guys who have macro for rekles avatar?

[fiery harbor]

dont macro them

[kindred notch]

why

[fiery harbor]

because you use reck first

[kindred notch]

can macro avatar and roar?

[fiery harbor]

yea

[oblique trail]

Mate

[kindred notch]

ty

[oblique trail]

You can macro Reck and Avatar together, however keep a separate Reck bind in case since there can be scenarios in the future where this will change

The same goes for Roar, while you can macro it to Avatar as well, you don't always run 1:30 min Roar, and for those scenarios where you use Uproar you can also run into scenarios where you want to use Roar but not the rest

Just macro'ing everything together for the sake of it is a bad practice

[narrow fossil]

Hi for m+ and raid which weapon enchant is better? Authority of the depts or radiant of power?

[stiff barn]

Radiant in m+, but not by much

[oblique trail]

Depths is more ST, Radiant is more AoE

But frankly they're so close you can use either one and be fine

[narrow fossil]

thx guys!

and one in each weapon is ok?

[oblique trail]

If you want to, sure

2x of the same enchant just doubles the effect

[clever belfry]

meow for me

[oblique trail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/781981140009091075/1286849670865485886/haunted-trumpet-v0-4f7977royfpd1.webp

[clever belfry]

hoenk

[desert cloud]

does everyone charge reck > rampage then avatar in the st build or is it just me

[oblique trail]

That only works if you either use Reck before Rampage or if your auto attack doesn't miss after reaching the mob

Just Charge -> Reck + Avatar -> Ramp

Or Reck -> Charge -> Avatar -> Ramp

Either one works, but you just guarantee you have 80+ rage this way so you wont risk awkward moments where you miss

[desert cloud]

spear after the ramp right

[oblique trail]

Yes, into BS

[desert cloud]

also how tf do u guys see spear in raids

[oblique trail]

You don't have to

Just hit the mob and you're fine

[desert cloud]

don’t u need to stand in it for the buff

[fiery harbor]

you can use the glyph that turns it back into bastion colors

blue

[oblique trail]

No, this was changed during Beta

[desert cloud]

oh

[oblique trail]

It now applies the debuff to them if you hit them

[desert cloud]

oh

i was standing in it this whole time

and crying when boss moves

[fiery harbor]

from oribos

[desert cloud]

that’s a big change thanks

[warm crag]

is this a thing for execute/condemn aswell?

[fiery harbor]

not that im aware of

[warm crag]

okay thank you king

[fiery harbor]

condemn changes visual for arms tho with the talent

at least it did in DF

i dont know if it still does

[oblique trail]

Pretty sure only Massacre is the way to get Condemn colours

[fiery harbor]

ah yeah massacre is the talent

it has a bug tho that sometimes makes your hands red and stay red until you zone out

minor annoyance

[warm crag]

its still brown

[oblique trail]

Your name is brown!!

[warm crag]

unless the slayer SD is diff colour than actual execute

WTF?

[fair wolf]

is ara kara trinket our bis?

[desert cloud]

according to wowhead yes

[swift citrus]

What's the difference between r1 ascension and r3?

[desert cloud]

crafting skill

[swift citrus]

Tooltip for me is the same

[desert cloud]

doesn’t make diff in stats

if u want a max rank wpn u need at least r2 or u pay a hefty summ which doesn’t make sense

[fiery harbor]

crafters will use more concentration to make it a rank 5 item with lower rank embellishment, meaning they will ask for big tip if they are smart

same for missives

[desert cloud]

it’s 40% of concentration for 20 missing skill

[rocky kindle]

How big is the difference between MThane & Slayer in raids and M+ ?
A person should play what feels most fun but if the difference is too great i rather not handicap the group or raid

[desert cloud]

i personally ask for 20k+ for that

[desert cloud]

just play slayer for now

[oblique trail]

In sustained AoE, Thane is a bit better than Slayer by roughly 5%~. However in ST, Thane is behind Slayer by roughly 13-15%~

The massive ST loss is what makes Thane not a recommended pick

[rocky kindle]

Thane feels fun, but perhaps i'll keep that for Delves and trashweeks M+ then

[warm crag]

play what you want king

[fiery harbor]

are there even trashweeks anymore

or is it only in lower keys

[desert cloud]

nein

[warm crag]

i think fort and tyr still rotates on +9 and under

[rocky kindle]

Only been Slayer Arms so far this exp

[fiery harbor]

yeah thats what i thought too

[desert cloud]

but the score is the same

u don’t get diff score for tyra and forti

[fiery harbor]

yeah

[rocky kindle]

Thanks for the info

[clever belfry]

@oblique trail what is the optimal mountain thane roar rav spear spec

[tardy lark]

With bladestorm too

[oblique trail]

I can't share it here, I have to DM it

Got it from Loboz and he told me not to tell the public

[clever belfry]

how rav+bS???

[tardy lark]

Thane got that dark tech

[desert cloud]

secret spec that’s crazy lol

[oblique trail]

I am gonna go do a key as Thane and report back how it feels

[tardy lark]

Never have to think about whether your shit cleaves

Cause TC/TB is such high prio

[manic pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/we-want-to-know-all-the-secrets-neil-degrasse-tyson-startalk-tell-us-about-it-spill-everything-to-us-gif-22235929

[desert cloud]

i need to try that shit

[ember aurora]

how is this a downgrade of my pvp weapon

[oblique trail]

One has an embellishment on it

[ember aurora]

ye but a bad pve one and -9 ilvl

[oblique trail]

It's offhand as well

And wdym bad pve one

[inner juniper]

hi im newbie
Is it true that the dealing difference(double duskweave and ascension) is about 2%?
in murlok all top50 use ascension

[ember aurora]

not the best one i mean

but ye must be because off hand

[oblique trail]

It's solely because of the embellishment chief

[ember aurora]

oki didnt knew it was that good

on dungeon slice

[flat river]

Hello everyone

[vernal night]

idk if its me or not but i hate this season of dungeons

none of them are fun to do and th

ey suck

[restive pewter]

But what about chill dawn breaker

a nice little city final boss

[vernal night]

shit most of my groups cant get passed first boss

[fiery storm]

for rashanan, is the key to have BS / Odyns up for adds? cause my parses suck ass on that fight (im not even looking for 90+ lol)

[upbeat pulsar]

For gems do i just stack tf out of quick onyx?

[tardy lark]

You’d like to have bs up for as many as possible

[warm crag]

if this is hc rashanan just delay your second ava reck cd set until he lands and the adds come

press cds on adds

99

[fiery storm]

ok but open with popping off with everything

cause it seems if u pop BS early, its up for first adds

least in my group

ty

[warm crag]

ya open everything

u should cdr bs more than enough to detonate adds

[sage thicket]

Radiant power or depths for m+?

[fiery storm]

radiant

[fervent yoke]

Fury chads what alts have you’ve been enjoying this xpac?

About to just alt an arms warr

[warm crag]

you can just press n and instantly access arms from your main character

[fervent yoke]

Double the lockouts 🤷‍♂️

[dense elbow]

The real damage dealers in m+, Ret/havoc/FDK, arcanemage and the wild card disco Priest

[warm crag]

if you wanna play a mirror sure thats not alting then though

[fervent yoke]

Disc priest tho

[errant vessel]

Yes + don’t have another fury warr in group that does the same

[versed glade]

I saw somewhere on a blue post that 2h cost 1 spark for fury, is that a thing or Did i read that wrong/ was dreaming?

[muted dune]

It's wrong. 2handers cost 2 sparks, even for fury

[dense elbow]

PvP fix, not PvE - the 2500 conquest reward (free 2x2hander for fury)

[stone hornet]

Noob question, I want to level my warrior but can't see if on max level slam costs rage or not. I saw messages it doesn't generate but is there a passive that makes it free?

[exotic turtle]

Don’t know if I’m
Being a tard..(probably am) but can’t seem to find on the fury page what embellishments to go for, and what first crafts are best viable choices, enchants etc

[exotic turtle]

Slam is literally a last resort filler when there’s nothing else up to press, so I wouldn’t take much notice

[stone hornet]

Yes but should I even consider a bind/integrating muscle memory? If it still costs rage it seems bad as all guides basically say get to rampage asap

[smoky vale]

https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/1237303208754286715

[warm crag]

you need a filler for ST and aoe which button you end up pressing doesnt exactly matter

remember that you can set your actionbars to change on talent set so you can just bind whirlwind in aoe and slam in ST to the same button

or you can get a fancy macro that does it for you if you want the same actionbars on all specs

[stone hornet]

wouldn't I dump all my rage if I try to use slam as filler though? whirlwind is free at least

[warm crag]

slam is free

[somber elk]

anyone got a weakaura that shows when i Have 3 stacks?

[exotic turtle]

Rampage is probably 3rd on prio list, although it’s required to keep enrage up, Blood bath, and raging blow are you’re priorities this expansion, and can also reset your enrage

[stone hornet]

ah, cool, thank you, I think I'll get to leveling then 🙂

[exotic turtle]

Thank you

[stone hornet]

and try macros

[exotic turtle]

Just dump the rage when ever it’s flashing at you, and download IPS warrior weak aura

It’s amazing and helps you track whirlwind stacks easily and any other buffs you may have

[smoky vale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1286431529127641108/image.png?ex=66efdc79&is=66ee8af9&hm=e81ee5e4ad14f162874b7958c02538b90ba619399a38d50e33801c21ca1fea47&

legit

[stone hornet]

is it somewhere in faq/guides?

[smoky vale]

just look at this

and hit dummy

[stone hornet]

I saw it but was confused as tooltip says it costs 20 rage

hence my question

[exotic turtle]

No, if you have weak aura add on, just type IPS WARRIOR weak aura in google

[smoky vale]

are you arms

[exotic turtle]

Copy the import, and import it into your weak aura

[stone hornet]

I want to level fury

[restive narwhal]

How much enrage uptime do you Guys have in Keys at overall ?

[exotic turtle]

I never lose enrage

[stone hornet]

thanks, understood

[smoky vale]

You should only lose enrage if you have to drop uptime from circles etc

Even then you that should be minimized as much as possible

[exotic turtle]

The IPS warrior weak aura, also tracks you’re enrage very easily

Honestly highest recommendation for fury from me

[warm crag]

most warrior weakauras have the full package yknow

[restive pewter]

I’m a luxthos enjoyer personally

[smoky vale]

Also you are almost always rampaging before it falls off

[restive pewter]

only thing it’s missing is mfe tracker I think

[smoky vale]

Does the debuff show on the boss

If anything he'll just update later

[restive pewter]

Yeah it does

[smoky vale]

So just look at that

while you wait or find a wa

[restive pewter]

yeah there’s a wa bizentein has I’m gonna steal that makes a sound on 3 mfe stacks

[agile crystal]

Is there deminishing returns on mastery for fury? I have 43% now, but raidbots say i should stack more 😛