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Yes
what'd you sim m8
Arms is pretty fun rn imo
only played arms once 10 years ago for pvp purposes
i simed patchwerk ST builds
Arms is better on all non-add heavy fights in heroic raid looking at recent data.
Like I think there's only 2 where fury really pulls ahead, the rest arms is either better or even
Arms has way better single target though
fury will probably still be the better pick for mythic raid I assume
Arms is just so boring in comparison though
since adds don't die in 1 second
Yea for the majority of the fights I imagine. Sikran and Princess will likely have arms higher
are 8s delves easy again now as solo?
Question about the aoe rotation. why is bladestrom listed twice once at 4 and then again at 8?
because they have different conditions
Why is this? I thought arms was pulling ahead, but I see guilds using fury wars in mythic raid
6 out of 8 bosses have adds that require burst aoe
arms is pulling ahead for single target
Because they have better burst AOE
It even says with or without avatar
Does he need to say more ?
i mean just look at the one they're currently progging, broodtwister, they're literally running 4 frost dks and 2 fury warriors because of how much burst aoe they need
Aight makes sense, thanks guys
Little bro needs to reread 8 then
They will never make the enrage timer with this comp btw
"...if Avatar is off CD"
they have 0 boss dps
Any suggestions on how to find decent m+ partners? Is it truly the pug life running my own keys as a warrior?
Yea the boss has insane hp.
sikran isnt a real fight
Check is such a meme that staying alive >>> rest
Run keys. Find good players. Whisper after the key "hey I liked playing with you I'll add you to my friends list for future keys" or something.
So if you used baldestrom at 4 you would skip down to 9?
What are you all doing for second embells? Writhing armor banding?
Usaully i only find BIS guides, are there guide for fury warrior that covers progression? Argo 80 -> Heroic -> Delves etc
#fury message read our discussion starting from around here
Im trying to craft a pvp wrist
schmo broke it down for a small brain like me
about when to hold BS and when to desync it from ava/reck
It is a priority of abilities based upon conditions. So yes, you look farther down the list and just always pick the highest priority (lowest number) you currently can for dmg
Do you guys think warriors will all swap to Drakthyr on release or will night elf still be the most popular? This is from a m+ and raiding perspective
Draenei BiS (to me)
Troll goat
gnome or gay
king goat
tbf mechagnome honestly seems goated for raiding atm
helps you not get destroyed by the adds on broodtwister with the racial
crazy they dropped eredar right as i quit the game.
always said id insta swap if they gave me red draenei

I wish draenei had the blood elf dispel
yoink
Got a neck on my vault
I'm happy for you
thanks
got lucky this time
I wont step in Mythic Raiding
so this might be the last neck for the season lol
dunno probably
dont think anyone has a proper "bis" setup
yeh fair
Should I make the claymore
the gloves suck major ass though i'd wanna replace that first
was jsut looking at the guide
yeh ive only got glvoes atm :(
it hurts
Shared this in our guild discord today
this warrior is living his best life
rho
the neck has like 40%+ uptime. it's good
no way mfers are crafting weapons wit these prices right
1 we're from servers across the world. 2 we're not all broke
i cant even afford a repair
not worth
at 619
ill craft bracers or somethin lmao
so the guide says to craft claymore at crit+haste, is that correct or should I go with haste+mast ?
cant you recraft shit without sparks to make it higher ilvl
its actually crazy how grim batols last boss is easy to do the base mechanics of but pugs cant do it at all
Tanking the last boss of GB makes me want to pull my hair out.
W, will do my 7 now then
I just fucking hate when mfers take my pool
you dont need one
Ara kara is one of the easier keys ATM
Lot of healers being found out lol
just leap?
it's just safer to do the pool
It took me a couple of deaths to get the timing on the ara Kara last boss ngl
rather not brick a key because I greeded the mechanic
tbf you are right
me going for pools and getting it taken
has fucked me more than I can count
and I can count to at least 20
Timing is tight but it's definitely not super hard to hit
whats the timing like on it, just leap during the last second pull in right?
or do I have to wait until I'm fully succ'd and then leap
"fully succd"
Yeah I wait till the suck gets really strong and starts to yeet then I leap
Honestly I don't know the exact time frame lol, I base it on in game sound xD
I also move far early
Jump after suck
Okay all, this may be a dumb question. Is there a way i can macro talent swaps onto my action bar. All i want to do is essentially be able to click in between a single target and cleave build for when i'm raiding in between fights and pulls
There prob is a macro for that
For me it does that standard? Normal blizz ui
Standard UI does this
Standard is bis
I think he means he wants to have a super fast action bar method he can hit between packs
^^^
Between packs ...like trash packs in raid ???
That's why I think he means
Its all aoe mass pulls
āDragon roar on cooldownā
ah good point ironmoney
Or like me afk while everyone else does it
Cant you just set up 2 bars and scroll between em
Standard ui has that since vanilla
grab causese's off wago
ty
I have a macro switches between two action bars so then I can load my aoe moves onto one bar and I ST onto the other. I don't ever need this as Fury but it's useful as Arms
is it me or do you need a proper setup of weakauras to make fury work properly? I cant keep track of the stuff when to use what at what amount of stacks with normal interface...
It's you
Just feel it out
well what should be average dps amount for whole m+ run with ilvl 600 weapons
Im old school. I use the addon āneedtoknowā when im enraged, whirlwind stacks, and when odinfury falls off target
Need WAs to properly play any spec imo
Thatās entirely situational.
worst decision ever to add -15 second timer death deduction for anything above +5
i agree, tracking those buffs are sometimes a hell
At this point, if I see a 3 star NW +9 Iām terrified of that walking god
Was pulling about 900-1m active overall yesterday in +5s at 605 with a 610 wep - as others have said very situationally based on tank pull size and dungeon
Is there a difference in the claymore and the greataxe?
And on comp. I saved CDS for big trash pulls so my ret pali doing 950k ST sustained can save for bosses. Big Number is just big number. Matters more when you use it.
Right, i mostly popped on CD as long as the pull was more than 3 mobs.
1 is an axe. 1 is not an axe
Now I just need to not be bad at the game and stop messing up final boss one shot mechanics in dungeons.
shoutout to the 2.2k io mw monk that literally died 8 times on last ara kara boss to getting rolled over by the waves
and then leaving even after depleting anyway
Araākara poison waves say hello
anyone got a fire WA for tracking 2 set buff?
I only got smacked by one of those, lost my R Sham and got truck isekaid from directly off screen behind my char. Didnāt deplete the key tho.
What missive for fury?
why would you wanna track that
Classic. I took two back to back yesterday. Ran out of web straight into one and got rezzed straight into one.
I got Rezzed then immediately died to root mechanic bc my Frost DK got to the same pool before I did.
So I got carried in my own +5
Oh thats just extra. The FDK doesnt even need the pools lol
No one was super upset, we only 1 starred it, but not the worst.
Not leaping out under 1 second
m+ with my friends can be brutal for ara kara, we're all melee so final boss is a bitch for a 4 melee group lmao
what embellishment is it i should get on wep?
Jeez, yaāll gluttons for punishment
my friends have this thing about them where they insist on including everyone in everything
Cast went off mid root animation, tried jumping to it and couldnāt get root fully. Skill issue tbh
Mine was also 4 melee
sometimes I would actually rather pug a key with a proper team comp than run 3 melee dps
but hey, playing with friends am i right
Ran SV with Aug/Ele. that was easy af
You don't have to get rooted if you leap out when the cast is under 1 second
Thank fuck none of my friends play melee
i've hit it before in m0
but decided i'd play it safe with keys
i should just go for the leap from now on
ascendence is the embell we want on weap, right?
ye
Guys, a quick question, are you using bladestorm at cd even if ths unsync with avatar&reck?
Mmhmm
Omg Iām stupid af
Depends is the quick answer
I will Bladestorm the air on principle
Usually youll have an odyns fury up you can pop that will work, if not depends on pull size
like you will enter to a new pack, 20-30secs to get rek&ava but you have bladestorm ready
You Bladestorm
watching randoms fumble a +4 is wild to watch
im holding it but i think im doing wrong. My dps is not bad but maybe use it on cd can give me a little pump
If its like 2 mobs and no odyns fury prolly not
i se
^
Member that your mashing executes too lowering the CD
Its rarely gonna line up with avatar
Ava/Reck (Blood fury for me as well) on a boss and just doing rotations is still 800-900k DPS
I screwed up and used a r2 missive instead of r3 on my weapon.... Its only 619 so I'll need to recraft it once I get mythic crests anyways. How big of a mess up is it?
Iād delete my account and start over
Say less
Its fine just put in a r3 when you recraft
Go mage. Itās a wrap
I'm actually going to destroy my harddrive too
Download more ram
Dont forget the magnet
Hello, I have a small question, do you think it's right to put the two ring haste matery that I have instead? knowing that the mastery is in my sims stats in front?
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/rE5JFA4Ha2qK4YNBFBoDmo
Wait real question though, when I recraft do I lose my enchant?
No
U do get a slight discount when upgrading on mats tho
Do what sims higher
What is the spark quest this week? I feel like I missed something
damn, double use trinks
Hey not all of us are lucky enough to have a sac
don't check that, i don't use, the question is for the ring
guys I'm capped on stones and having absolutely fucking horrible luck getting some heroic track gear
I am, but not all of us
Iām not showing mine until Ara Kara gods give me a not trash Sac
do i just start sending it on champ gear
spend on what though lmao
Big stat items
bug stat items?
My 8/8 Adventurer SV neck is somehow still my best neck I have
2h, chest, legs
Hey im about to craft Charged Claymore, whats the best ambelishment for fury ?
I'm 606 on everything and 619 weapons
i dunno what else to spend stones on lmao
well, except boots, stuck with 593 boots, 0 luck getting those
would spend if I could
606 is max vet not champ, but yeah only spend at cap and prio biggest stat increase items
Buy the BoE Heroic Boota
nah I mean, do I start sending it on runed crests
Run BT and get the guaranteed hero piece
the hero ring I got was garbonzo beans
i heard alot that you wanna unequip head tier first and pick an haste mastery item there but the hands are way bader or?
Whats BT?
Black temple
Black Temple
I considered spending runed on it but it's also garbo
That sucks, its fine to spend rune crests depending on the slot
The TW AFK simulator
how do you get a piece of heroic gear from that?
Kill illidan
I do have a tier head piece thats champ track, I guess I should just send it with runed on that for now
trying to follow larias' guide with only spending runed on 613 ilvl stuff to save on crests
only works when I get heroic 613 gear 
Gotta pump to them 7 keys
Or just pug some hero raid
trying
Prolly shat I think
Itās not fun in there lmao
yeah 4/8 2 weeks on heroic raid and no luck on drops
Blood bound loves to fuck up pugs
princess is an adventure
The others are cake
YEP. BLOODBOUND PUGGING IS TRASH
bloodbound 2nd boss?
Ye
Mostly cuz pug tanks are trash I guess
haven't had too much trouble on blood, just need tanks to have a brain
Tried healing one, died to 7 tentacles at one spot
it's like they don't understand how to position with the beam
They dont, its pretty simple concept
Tanks actually having a mechanic is mind boggling to a lot of people lol
beam comes out of the bosses sides and then the boss rotates counter clockwise, better stand perfectly to fuck the group that went down 
Just DPS adds harder. Why are they still alive when beam is up?
In a pug?
Bc all the good DPS arenāt pugging
Youre lucky if the avg dps is like 500k
because the tank going down positions poorly so when we go down we have to run to our left to kill the harbinger
meanwhile the tank above is positioning the boss perfectly so the beam lands perfectly beside the harbinger giving us no time to kill it
thats my experience with 2nd boss when it goes wrong in pugs lmao
Normal pugs also canāt do Horror
Beautiful. Tank differential then. Nothing can be done on most bosses if tanks lack braincells
Right
I feel that. There are some bosses where I just wanna break out a shield and one hander and at least know the fight and how to taunt swap so the group can progress
I've come close to that on blood
Ive gotlow haste rn - ~5%
Simming shows losing DPS when gaining Haste/Mast over Crit/Mast
Good to blindly follow or am i being led astrey
I was almost there the other day
Baby dont hurt me
Itās the only boss that tanks HAVE to know what to do. The rest can be fixed with Pings
princess is such a mfer though
i feel like most people don't play with bigwigs/dbm
it's so painful
Thats pretty low haste⦠iād be surprised if its telling you crit
how big is the difference between anger management vs reckless abondon in m+?
i don't really like RA
Do you all feel like beans in m plus now?
Its prolly not massive, but 5+%?
who wants to form a skyhold pug group to get past princess 
Yeah so beans, Fury is complete dookie dogass
Only warriors
Instead of doing the highest overall, I now instead do the highest overall but slightly lower
Bet was worried I was the only one
I'm losing to my ret pally buddy
but I'm dogass at the game so it's expected
damn pug tanks aren't pulling to my dmg profile
Yeah I lost to my u holy dk and boomie friends
Havent played with any rets, canāt confirm
While wearing 4 set and having higher ilvl itās bonkers
meanwhile ret dropping 2-3m dps per pack lmao it's kinda nuts
Ret and Frost were sandbagging like MFs
Yeah but, our utility
@fickle bluff 

i ignore most things ret pally because I hate them but my buddy tried explaining he gets his biggest aoe CD every 30s
i love being so utilized
Yeah Rets are laughing at us
Count to 3
They do big damage AND have utility
Only my fellow warriors understand

I only understand Zug
Whatās the cd in ret aoe stop
All Iāve been hearing is BUT youāre still so good in raid
im talking shit I really have no idea what it is
What about their aoe stop though
We actually have similar burst windows
Shockwave is massive
I was going off of vibes ngl, but that checks out
But they do 300k more out of Burst
Yuuuup sure do
Well if we didnāt get nerfed we would have been fine
I might be jumping ship to enhance
The nerf hurts
Isnāt ret st ass in keys
We are just ātoo good in raidā
Is 1.1M On a boss too low?
And they get lust
Rets damage is good overall
Hey hey
Idk which boss? What would an equivalent fury do
Warriors give you 10% of your health!
And an AoE disrupt for Xalatath
10%!
damn echo dropped a dk for a warrior
I was doing like 800k on same boss
Same ilvl?
Warriors will ALWAYS do good damage in the raid, the timers are perfection for our cds
Just sim a ret and fury in m+ spec at same ilvl, see what it do
they have wings every 30 seconds
Where do u find whole setup they using? Just watching from stream?
Donāt know enough about ret to be confident though
ret aoe is good, ret ST is not good
How is dh doing atm?
ret ST in ST spec is still not that good
DF s2 we had cooldowns every 30 seconds. Our damage was still flat
Do I need to show raid logs lmao
yes
Our best DPS is a Ret
YOUR best dps
Heās probs doing better than most of the discord, just saying.
i am very lost about using bloodbath, crushing blow. Do i use them even if my rage is full?
Depends
If you are enraged yes
Do you have enrage is the big one
bloodbath on cd? or raging blow first?
lets see, I'm curious
Thereās going to be outliers for every spec. Generalizing one amazing player doesnāt mean thatās the average performance of the spec
Crushing is usually the prio
crushing blow mb not raging blow
do i need to keep raging blow on cd aswell, even if my rage is full
it just keeps resetting
hard to keep it on cd
Read the wowhead guide
I did still confused tho
No it does not need to always be on CD
should i be macroing together: Reckleness, Avatar, TRoar? why or why not?
should macro the entire keyboard
Troar I usually donāt might be circumstances where youre waiting to use it but still good to open the avatar window
No. Reck>charge is good and youād lost the initial hit of tr if you macro out of melee
Also in m+ you wanna avatar on the mobs cause Of cast
Just compared my fury in M+ at 605 to a ret pal in m+ 607 over 5 min ST
i macro all 3 cause of laziness
Fury was up ~4%
If its huge pack, fulll burst, reck + odyn +whirl then avatar
i missed it after being out of the game for nearly a year
the constant ignore out of groups
small packs, either odyn+whirl or avatar+whirl
love it
odyn on coldown anywaye
You donāt need to of>ww
I assumed he meant Bladestorm
can someone tell me where i can get the weakaura from critcake?
But yeah no need to ww after of
why not? more damage and they die quicker
why would it be more dmg?
you already get ww proc from OF
Cause odyn gives me avatar
no need to press it again
Whirlwind?
yeah but why click ww after OF?
sorry
I think he means bladestorm
meant BLADESTORM
Yeah
haha my bad
Gotcha
I wonder if there is a mob count where bloodbath gets a higher prio due to reap procs.
Or is reap mob capped?
wait
Yeah, interesting. Since its not a hard cap there should in theory be a number but idk if its a relevant one
is it fine to send the enchanted runed crest on an off piece with embelishment?
Might as well, you want gilded for your 2h anyways
you guys ava/reck/toar > OF > BS?
no
I dont usually OF right away
you don't have enough sparks for that if you're crafting 2h weapon
do you play Tekken?
ofc. i'm pretty garbage tho
my warlock is even called Kazuya
is anybody really good at tekken though? figured id ask since the pfp is blocky Kaz
Why did they make keystone master so easy to get now ?
was it ever hard
was always easy to get
Probably player engagement metrics
The hardest part about ksm is enjoying yourself in this dungeon pool
yeah this dungeon pool is miserable
Whatās yall least fave boss rn
Last boss city of threads
mists last boss
the tentacle fuck in siege
It just doesnāt take as long bc no tyrannical and fort split
just because it's boring
Yess
yeah viqq goth fucking sucks
Thatās why ksm feels easier
Probably mists ya. Last boss is just shit design
I meant yes to this
Like not even hard, but you can't see anything and the dot poole tick instantly
Cool design bro
Thatās what it is!
I just shut my brain off to the balls moving on last boss of threads
Guys is there something wrong with raidbots? Why is it suggesting i should use the same gem in every slot except for the meta gem?
Even if i get 3 different results using different gems, each result is using all the same gem.
No wonder donāt ever remember getting it first week
if you select multiple gems
Anyone mind sharing a weak aura for marked for execution with ashen juggernaut?
What yall craft with 619 from story enchanted harbringer crest?
2h
Nothing, no spark
Fsho
My guess and best bet would be weapon.
Ty
i have selected 5 different gems
out of 12 results not a single one uses more than 1 type of gem in every slots
and its not even the same gem every time, one result can be 4 mastery/haste, another is 4 haste/mastery, another is 4 vers/mastery
etc.
holy 8 haste
should I use the free enchanted rune on recraft my 606 weapon or craft myself a piece of armor thats below 600 to 619?
if you don't think you'll get a weapon you can upgrade to 619 I think weapon is definitely the play. There are a lot of weapons to get out there in M+ and delves, but just depends on how much you're playing
cuz rng is a fickle mistress
I used it on my embellished weapon, since armor will be easier to come by.
Why is authority of Depths best enchant?
because it sims best?
how are you crafting another item without a spark?
I kind of assumed this was his first crafts
wait, can you use a runed crest on a low craft?
nah, has to be spark item
yeah then he can't since he already crafted the weapon
You just recraft it with the crest and ilvl go up
but it's a 590 craft
!sheet
ā606 weaponā in his statement implies itās a R5 spark weapon
Is this mythic timewarped?
for people mainly doing +7-10 keys and heroic raiding, are you guys crafting 2H weap + wrist OR 2 duskthread lining??
weapon now, armor later
he says 606 recraft with runed crest, or craft armor below 600 to 619
If I'm running primarily M+, what should my weapons be enchanted with? Both the same enchant?
- didn't know you could use runed crest on an item under 600
- if he's talking about a 619 armor piece that requires a spark
OH I see you were talking about the armor not the wep
he's already crafted his 606 spark weapon
yeeeeeeeee
so he's gotta wait until next week for his 3rd spark
You can use crest on an item under 600ilvl assuming he just got it rank 1 or something
But yes he needs spark for armor
Authority of depths is real good
I believe 2nd place wep enchant is either radiance or stormriders fury
idk just timewalking i think
Authority of radiant power**
dont know if u can do mythic
guys if we are rage capped do we still prio blooodbath and rb over rampage?
Yes
Rage is a meme (until you need to Rampage)
stat weights telling me crit is 2nd best, is this bait or real?
https://i.imgur.com/bczC3b5.png have 12.4 mast
sim top gear
hm, I cant find any information about the ideal opener on wowhead - did archim skip that in his guide?
forget about stat weights
did that too
stat weight sims are a relic from the past
It says the opener is pretty much just the priority list at some point in the rotation guide
I am following that currently but I have seen other warrios do it differntly, thats why im asking
If youāre talking about skipping BB while in cooldowns thatās a very slight optimization that is potentially skipped in the guide yeah
only crushing blow. bb and rb arent strong enough buttons to want to overcap with
anyone got a WA that tracks the timers of the new affixes?
So whats your Experience with Transmitter in M+ and Raid so far ???
thank you
Is that on the LFG queue?
hey guys, anyone knows what addon/wa it is when somethings comes off cooldown in the middle of the screen?
Hi, Im not understaing something in the wowhead guide in the BIS gear section, could you guys help me out pls? Why would I get tierset gloves, which is 33% crit and 66% versa, and the head "Darkfrost Helmet" which is haste 41% versa 59%, when I could get the tierset helm which better stats (71% haste, 29% versa) and pair it with Black Blood Injectors from raid (34% haste, 66% mastery)
oh true I don't have another spark
I used my 2 sparks to craft r5 weapon at 606
so you don't double depths/
you do if it sims higher
simple as tht
that
Have the weakaura but in raid its sometimes hard to spot the blue orb
guys ive just got a 610 skarmarok shard, stil lworth upgrading ?
untill i get transmitter to pair with sacbrood
I have the WA. With Sounds.
But holy, will it je annoying to use in any Situation other then Prepull in Raid.
Worth upgrading 610 Skarmorak shard paired with sac brood ?
Yes do depths on both weapons, by 2nd I just means in terms of DPS placement among the enchants

I feel the same way in fight it feels clunky, only 3x jumping is cool
But it gets me hard on pre pull seeing those juicy numbers with that trinket
Iām sorry, I donāt quite understand what you are asking
are you guys using a Sudden Death Weakaura so you dont lose the proc for AJ Stacks?
It feels wrong to do the Minigame but holy is it rewarding. I hate it the same way 7 hated Puzzlebox.
does that mean I have to cancel bladestorm for OF?
guys, do we run same wep enchants on both wep?
Man scaling is a meme, leveling my warrior, hit 71, suddenly almost dying every pack lol
sim it
You actually shouldnt be bladestorming at all
give frost dk's the fury treatment, nerf their aoe
it does not
Reckless>charge>normal rotation
or be lazy like me and macro it all together š
is this just for scenarios without Bladestorm?
no, you're overthinking this. it's just to make sure you don't miss any dot ticks, if it's under 1 sec it will add to the duration
ahh so for example during BL , I get it . thank you
nahh bl doesn't increase the ticks. it's just coz of titans torment
Anyone using this? Or has a version of it?
https://wago.io/dPSmdwcrm
Wago.io is a database of sharable World of Warcraft addon elements
jeventes has one too
i just run afenar's pack
tracks them both but not as extensively as those WA's that focus on it
Just need some small WA for my ui this included to track/focus on them. Thanks will check those out
Ye but the bladestorm duration is shorter with more haste so there might be a window after that where OF from Titans Torment is still active on the boss
whats bladestorm gotta do with OF ticks?
its about the opener
if you do Recklessness+Avatar--> Bladestorm - I was asking if I should cancel bladestorm so I can reach the last second remaining of the titans torment OF
How much are you guys doing overall in keys? Because people are saying anything less than 950 you're doing shit wrong and I'm doing like 700k and topping the meters
Is it just because I'm doing lower keys?
really depends on how the tank pulls too
Ulgrax the Devourer, do i go aoe or pure st ?
MT if we are talking about OF
aoe
Good evening guys.
i thought the OF when <1s of dot from avatar means you don't want to press OF when there's over 1 second left on the bleed
Brother, just press of after BS ends
i think all it's trying to say is don't clip the bleed by popping OF too early after avatar
just let BS rip lol
kekw
I just started playing wow like a week before TWW came out. On my Fury Warrior I am following the Icy Veins rotation guide but for the life of me I can't find Crushing Blow, Onslaught, or Bloodbath in my spellbook or talent tree. I been looking for like over an hour with no luck. Any advice or help is appreciated. My Fury warrior is currently level 71.
hello guys how do we sim dungeon slice or patchwerk? tyvm
Crushing and bloodbath are transformed from rb and bt when u press rampage with reckless abandon talented
And onslaught is a talent we donāt use
Thanks
Only use rampage when enrage is about to end no? And on procs
Use rampage when you have nothing better to press
I.e you already pressed cb and bb
Rampage is on my nr 1 keybind, so obviously it has highest prio!!
^
And maybe a marked for execution execute
But ur not waiting for enrage to drop off every time u hit it
š
Almost never think of enrage
for the single target priority - how does bloodbath with vicious contempt and raging blow with opportunist compare? the wowhead only shows raging blow without opportunist on the prio list (maybe im misreading things)
Just is there to say ādonāt let it fall off
uh i just did 1.06m in +4 stonevault
I think I ideally try to make it a crushing blow that consumes opportunist
at 607.62 ilvl
thats my highest overall so far though
generally i'm sitting around 900m give or take
950k in a +7 at 611 
where are all the haters that flamed me when i said enhance got buffs
anything from 1.1 mil - 1.5 mil is fine
bloodbath > rb even with opportunist
if u have less than that get more gear or press more cds
you generally want to conserve opportunist stacks for the next CB
though thats a minor optimization iirc
If I'm on free GCD and no rage, more efficient is to use slam? Or WW? Cuz slam doesn't he generate any rage
Pure ST slam
Cba an extra keybind, I'll stand there in shame and do a whirlwind

is there a way to turn valorstone into an item to store for later i think i saw somewhere
i reached cap :/
I was overthinking it, ty
dont worry about valorstones you get like 100 per m+ dung
you will be crest capped before you can use it all
true
sending it on hero
did 1.16 in a 3 GB
ya 613
depends largely on ur tank bro
if he pulls small pp packs ur fked
but also yeah its not something comparable at all
especially not first week of a season
people learning routes, pulling different things
also the new shaman buff feels legit like the strongest buff you can get, so not having that feels bad
why is raidbots doubling the value of my trinket lol
tyvm
depends on the key and how thinga are pulled
wdym
How tf I not die to tank crusher spider boiz on Brood. Do I really gotta hold CDs on parasites?
raidbots version
wowhead tooltips are garbage ignore them
ingame version
Y'all see the bladestorm/ Odyn's Fury nerf datamined T_T
it will sim correctly don't worry about it
we're getting a 6th nerf???
That's a merge
those are just the live nerfs being ported to PTR
we're now 63% weaker
Already live
MR president?
ahhhh
are you stupid
Yeah I thought Arch said those are the already live nerfs
I didn't realize myb
im guessing this trinket is just that bad then cuz the 584 candle sims like 1.8k higher on ST
Shape up, you could have killed somebody tonight
Man was about to cause a riot. 
I wish that person was me T_T
yes the abyssal trap is full garbage
I've heard most of those Delve trinkets are pretty meat
Kiss of death is giga
Kiss and candle haste trinket are decent
says it in the name :p
āEnemy come withinā
Trap below tank trinkets on bloodmallet ouch
its just really not good
look at the use, it's legit 300k damage over 10 seconds
thats less than a single crushing blow
the only good use of it is that it's uncapped, but like how many times are you gonna run into 10+ mobs that you can use it on
May be a stupid question... but if I am only playing fury in keys (prot in raid), thinking I just go with cloak with duskthread lining as my first embellishment, right?
any mad queens mandate enjoyers in here
do me a favor
Uh huh
go run a mists key and trinket the first boss in his execute phase
it's literally insane
i got to spread the good word
hit him for 38m in a key and i am not even sure i was optimizing it
Wow is balanced
for context it looked like he died from 20-30% to 0 in 0.5 sec
Like just the burn phase when heās isolated?
yes
Day 3 of m+
Iāve been testing it on stunned silken court and itās been nice
Itās a shame it canāt be macroād into our abilities
Notice anything missing?
Poor Sub Rogues
arms and sub are too good they exceed s tier
gdamn... I think my highest was like 800k overall
maybe I just suck š¦
heres my breakdown for that +7
que with a frost dk and sub rogue
ill still beat em
Thatās overall tho
???
wads our bis trinkets bois
if only you knew :xd:
oh i know i saw the pin
no, how badly you can lose on overall as fury
but im glad things are working out for you
i feel like that's kinda not how a tier list works but more power to you stat website #195382
hello erga king
hello spongie queen
flushed

chat
chatter
does catalyzing keep enchants


fui al doctor del oido š¦
preach king
its not me its ronaldo
he must be stopped...
is sacbrood trinket still gud?
yes
wads our 2 bis trinkets
Noob question, recently back to the game.
I have 45s Thunderous roar + 45s Odyn's Fury, I know they are on global CD, but is there a spammable macro to use them one after another?
transmitter mandate probably
with you on arms nothing can do wrong
hoooly

hooooly
forever in jail
Guys can any one here help me out with rotation in m+, outside cds my aoe is kinda shit


god I want haste so bad
ye i only got 20k
as arms rn
0 mastery and vers
im cooked
need to swap all jewellery + snapshot mastery on food
with flask
š¦

for fury
stuck with veteran weapons for life
is knife better than skarmorak?
King I believe in your next dungeon
Ideally I'd run knife + skarmorak
Will be trinkie
Out of my trinket pool
I got sac
My trinkets are fixed
(Temporarily)
Still need to farm a good shard and offhand wep so
Still batol/vault jail

right i get htat, was just thinking if knife/sac or sac/skarm would be better assuming equal ilvl
This is why I hate sims.
Either an item is good or it isn't
Simple as

All 3 are good
That isnāt true though
That's 100% how this works. Item is good? Equip. Item is bad? Don't equip
Sims get you
just tryna get a rough idea of the relative trinket strengths b/c I m+ player
95% of the ay there
For most people that's enough
Then the other 5% is critical thinking
For m+ I'd say khadros > shard
More up front mastery value
Shard better value in raid where adds die and the bonus can be rolled into boss
Though you can also make a case for shard in M+ where the mastery bonus rolls over pack to pack when you don't have CDs
i go aoe build on The Silken Court right ?
yes
I'd def have one of the two for M+ though
Prob pair with sac if you're pushing high
Cuz a knife rolling -verse might kill you in M+
On The bloodbound horror, can you cleave the ranged adds from the boss?
Whereas it shouldn't in raid
like you clap the boss and cleave the adds
TC is a proper aoe, not a cleave
what does TC have to do with anything
Hey man I don't speak 80 IQ
true you at 20
For single target, is Execute prio if we don't have Ashen up?
Low blow
Zug zug
I know we prio to refresh it but do we prio it to get a stack of it up?
not me thinking shard literally was Khadros lmao
i didnt realize there's 2 strength on use mastery trinkets this dungeon set
with 1.5 cd
And I know that, it's just
is the aoe wide enough to hit the adds
there'a always soem funky shit where you wanna clave the boss and not the add vs cleaving the add and not the boss etc etc
u said clap the boss, he probably thought u meant thunder clap
with the knife you can also dip pretty low on haste and it almost feels like someone missed the afflicted
makes sense
not what I meant at all
its settled guys
Feels bad but ultimately doesn't actually matter long run
If feels are a concen then sac is the more consistent option, yes
Quick question : do you use slam as filler if u spec into improve ww
it was rather surprising till I figured it was the knife.
Its pretty much the opposite of when the haste weapon enchants x2 procced on DF.
No ww
Slam does more single target dps but doesnāt generate any rage but tbh for the few times you absolutely run out of stuff to hit it doesnāt matter tbh
Aight so this f ability can gtfo of my bar
Not many single target only fights out there either so ww > slam
if you use the transmute crests to higher tier thing, that counts toward your cap right?
would you guys go ascendence and the embellishment that buffs it even for keys?
whats our BIS trinkets
fury warrior bis
Came here to see how ppl are doing, I read a guide saying we should be farming 10s this week but even 5s seem intense rn
most people are not gonna be farming 10s this week
is bt dropping hero track?
Does anyone know what our BIS raid trinkets are right now?
or let me rephrase, For raiding
Champion
the quest is
theres 2 quest, one is champion one is hero
killing illidan drops a hero item
transmitter mad queens mandate probably
Ok but what if an item is bad but your item is worse. Bad item is good until you get a better item
brutal finish or culling cyclone in m+?
queen ansurek pure st build right?
atleast take improved whirlwind if you are doing that
Crafting a weapon is so ungodly expensive
Not when you bought the mats a few weeks ago
Mining and herbing a couple hours outta the week should let you afford it p easily
anyone know how much valorstones you get in m+ for a run?
Like 75 if you get score
No shot
Considering a weapon is 50-100k not a chance
I make around 30k in like 45 mins of farming
Bismuth and marathon spear is crazy
Arathor*
(vague memory) think it's 45 + 25 for first run bonus
er, io increase bonus, i mean
damn thats rough
Might be off by like 10 idr
i need to spam for valorstones then.. š¦
fakkk they ruined fury in M+
I mean, if you are trying to upgrade gear, you are already spamming +7s or +9s for hero track regardless
how
Honestly delves->radiant echos are a great source too
A 5 radiant echo gives 200-300 ez
Must be your chiseled hands, can't farm like my delicate lady fingers
the number of runs it'll take to get a full set of hero track gear from keys will be much higher than the runs you need to recap valorstones
good tip ty!
we don't have the sustained to hang with pretty much any other class right now in aoe
once we pop our CDs we are done and most of the time the pack lives long enough that others will catch up
and no other class
comes close to ur burst
u burst in 3 globals
u cant have both
choose one
Do you use bountiful phial or insight
if we burst at the begining of a pack, we cant sustain
??? what game are you playing
thats ur damage profile
ok... but what is burst good for if we cant sustain any damage worth a shit
boss adds have to die fast?
ok we burst one pack
fury oneshots
then the next 3 are dog shit
okay
Brother if you want sustained AOE play arms
u are tweaking if u think fury burst is nothing

we killed one pack fast now its the other dps's turn to solo a pack
this convo is going to be really funny next week on fortified
I just use the one that let's you see camaflouged herbs and I'm specced into arathor spear and all the base nodes that give skill
so uproar huh?
Thereās a reason why they gave us a 3% nerfā¦







