fury

[tidal kindle]

Revvez doesn't have vods enabled

It's JOEVER

[warm crag]

There may be many little breakpoints but just sim it simc will take care of it

[warm crag]

This is awful news who will I steal cds from now

[hot mural]

havent simmed for stat weighs so no idea. says its higly inacurate on the side so havent bothered

[past pivot]

Don't sim stat weights. Sim gear

gems, enchants, builds, etc

[tidal kindle]

Is it bm to ping revvez in twitch chat to ask him to enable vod

Has the age of RWF Going Dark gone too FAR?

https://tenor.com/e4LZCeiv0kg.gif

[warm crag]

I think you should do this politely

[tidal kindle]

Yah ofc

Not gonna mong about it LMAO

[wicked dew]

do blood dk have shit threat or am I poppind cds too soon

[tidal kindle]

Both

[warm crag]

Probably latter

[hot mural]

how do i even see what i should go for tho lol

[lofty lodge]

is 680k single target okay with AOE spec?

[hot mural]

i'd say it depends on ilvl

[lofty lodge]

607

[tidal kindle]

Bit low but still too many variables

What is your ST sim w/ aoe spec

[lofty lodge]

@tidal kindle

[tidal kindle]

Well you're hitting your sim

So your play is fine

[hot mural]

mine is 928k with m+ build

[tidal kindle]

Assuming asking about play

Your gear is kinda

[lofty lodge]

oh no sorry, I meant for the sim

[tidal kindle]

Unfavorable

So lots of room for improvement

[lofty lodge]

is the BiS gear on wowhead accurate?

[lofty lodge]

teach me ur ways bro

[hot mural]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/hiAwZY4L21PnjBmVJJJEdq

[tidal kindle]

Yah but that's like, end game optimized gear sim

[serene vessel]

man

[balmy peak]

Powerful enraged or Frenzied enraged?

[serene vessel]

no one even looked at his sim huh

ur comparing urself w/ no buffs

to people with buffs

[tidal kindle]

Wait

[serene vessel]

u have no enchants

[tidal kindle]

Why is he simming no buffs

LMAO

[lofty lodge]

...

😭

[tidal kindle]

Yah I was gonna say enchants and shit are also missing

[spare steppe]

depends what youre doing

[lofty lodge]

my brain is smoother than baby shit

[pale lava]

all natural, no roids

[lofty lodge]

NATTY SIMS

[tidal kindle]

ST spec

Sim

He's talking about aoe spec

But yah buffs is

BIGGEST part

Lmfao

And then enchants

[hot mural]

theres both there lol

[tidal kindle]

^ me

[serene vessel]

anyway i recommend looking at ST sims with all raid buffs

unless you're trying to compare urself in m+

in which case I'd be willing to bet that the fang isnt that great in m+

compared to the other trinky

[lofty lodge]

so ur thinkin skarmorak + the purple spring until I get m+ sac

[serene vessel]

anyway this is why you should always post ur sims directly

for m+?

yeah

[lofty lodge]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/cL7XPr2v2cQTjZUyw7nRaZ

like this?

[serene vessel]

although actually

[lofty lodge]

sorry new to this

[serene vessel]

yeah lioke that

tbh that spring looks bait for m+

i havent used it

so maybe im wrong

but seems like it would take too long to come online

and for fury ur frontloaded

in m+

[lofty lodge]

idk, I feel like my dmg is so bad in dungeons and stuff, but my rotation is probs scuffed a bit with prio

sometimes I smoothbrain don't keep ww buff

[serene vessel]

trinkys in m+ are kind of a feelycraft thing

[lofty lodge]

is that sim okay for my ilvl?

[serene vessel]

that i cant answer i havent been keeping up w/ wow so my ilvl is 602

[lofty lodge]

I'ma go beat up the kelpfist dummy for 5mw/out buffs to see how I'm doing

[lapis eagle]

why rio doesn't update live need to download again ?

[solar moss]

guys is it me or m+ hit like a freaking truck this season

i swear i have around 20% completion rate on +8s

[north dragon]

Is there any video, that I can watch to learn proper rotation? I feel like shit tbh.

watching people topping fury dps after nerf, and I’m like 609ilvl making 750-900k dps in m+.

I feel like I control most of this enrage, wirlwind etcetera but still making 40% of what i should do

Even tank is making more than me xD makes ma wanna quit

[solar moss]

900k overall?

[covert blaze]

tragedy

[north dragon]

Yeah xD it’s fucking tragedy. After that m7 run I stopped playing, to not to destroy others game

[radiant jasper]

Hey guys, quick question. Is Authority of the Depths way better than Stonebound Artistry? (Weapon enchants) and if so, do you use it on both weapons? 🙂

[solar moss]

idk im usually sitting around 1mil-1.2 mil so u are not that far off

[past pivot]

What even is Artistry? Mastery? Depths or Authority and it's a sim question from there

[radiant jasper]

Yes, it procs to 3.4k Mastery

[north dragon]

1.2m would be sweet spot. Saw people doing 1.8 average and yea.

Im pissed ngl. Was practicing 5h on dummy

It changed nothing xD

[solar moss]

but I would guess that cooldown management might be off cuz rotation aint complicated, just make sure to have whirlwind stacks and not overcap on rage

[north dragon]

Will try tomorrow to pay attention on rage management

[pine gust]

Remember that the better other players are the more overall dps u gonna have, and ofc pull size matters etc.

[rare blaze]

Yo guys, is it clear what were crafting this week?

[solar moss]

raid = weapon, m+ = 2x vers lining thingy

[pliant summit]

Don’t we craft weapon then wrists??

Ohhhh

[solar moss]

vers lining thingy I meant duskthread lining

[north dragon]

Yeah, but when there are 3 dps in team. And I’m always third. Something is wrong.

Last run arcane mage 1.8m enh shaman 1.6
I was 800k
Tank dh 750 xD

[dusky moon]

because you're a fury warrior

[compact reef]

thats sad

[north dragon]

I just alt f4ed

[dusky moon]

[compact reef]

whats your ilvl?

[north dragon]

609

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/q8JUfsaAYeFYfNSnxAzWCw

[pliant summit]

Yikes

[lofty lodge]

i'm lowk the same, I feel like i'm misunderstanding something with the rot

[compact reef]

do u feel weak?

[north dragon]

Ofc xd

[pliant summit]

Make sure your blade storming with stacks?

[north dragon]

Hmmm, didn’t pay attention tbh

[rocky locust]

If I don't want 1h weapons, is there any reason to have my loot spec be fury instead of arms?

[wicked dew]

nope afaik

[compact reef]

how are you doing on bosses?

[pliant summit]

How long the packs living aswell dude

[compact reef]

arcanes mage are out of control, is a madness what they do

[pliant summit]

Yeah don’t compare yourself to the very top your aiming for disappointment at that point

[north dragon]

I would say mediocre

[coral warren]

what am i droping in ST build to run cleave with 2p

[compact reef]

im simming you rn on dummies to see your dmg

[north dragon]

I would love to be just good average player xD

[rocky locust]

Alright. Thanks. Can anyone give a second opinion?

[eager thorn]

arms loot spec only

[solar moss]

dont stress about it and u will improve

[pliant summit]

Bruh your fine plus the session literally just started chill 💀💀💀

[north dragon]

Always were competetive guy. But in lol I had 4 spells xD to use

[compact reef]

are you new to wow?

[north dragon]

Now wanted to try wow and I’m crying deeply xD

Yep

[pliant summit]

Or just delete details for the start of the session

[north dragon]

Party member won’t let me forget 😉

[pliant summit]

What’s the point if your not having fun

That’s the whole point

[compact reef]

are you enraging before bs?

[north dragon]

Enrage > charge > rampage > bs

rampage > odins fury

[pliant summit]

Reckless- charge - rampage for enrage - burst

[compact reef]

reckleness and avatar + pots

your trinkets

[north dragon]

Y this is after rampage

[solar moss]

doesn't odins enrage u by itself

[pliant summit]

Cus you want enrage before then

[neon ingot]

and 4 cleave stacks

[sick jungle]

24 hours later you reply lmao

Are you getting caught up on the chat?

[heavy dock]

i thought overcapping isnt an issue rn

since all that matters is crushing blow no

[north dragon]

Will try to keep it in mind for one whole dungeon. And gonna check dps

Thanks, and gotta go, it’s late. See ya tomorrow

[compact reef]

don't focus too much on details and don't compare you with meta classes.

i mean, we're not meta but we're fine i think

[north dragon]

Numbers are satisfying

[compact reef]

amazing burst, good st and good cleave

[north dragon]

Anyway, thanks for advices

Will keep in mind enrage thing, + bs 4 stack

[compact reef]

ye, thats crucial

[north dragon]

Btw, you always keep execution buff?

I mean 5 stack?

[solar moss]

Don't worry about it

execute damage is fake

i dont even have the talent spec'ed anymore

[dusky moon]

I was busy yesterday

[north dragon]

So raging blow is most important then rampage on 115 f?

[clever flare]

On multitarget and m+ isnt worth to play juggernaut at all.

[solar moss]

rampage->crushingblow->bloodbath

[compact reef]

execute is an arms thing

[solar moss]

repeat

[mellow smelt]

what guide linked here is best to follow? wowhead?

[north dragon]

Will do!

[clever flare]

On your own sims always.

[solar moss]

@north dragon Rn u use execute to use slayer stacks to reduce cd on bladestorm

mostly

[mellow smelt]

more talking about rotation and general how to play? been a min since i played fury

[clear tendon]

Are the new nerfs to bladestorm and odin live or is that just PTR and how much of a nerf is it

[compact reef]

the last time fury's execute were good was in legion

[north dragon]

Alright

[narrow narwhal]

#updates-midnight

[orchid moth]

do we ever run Mad queen and Treacherous?

[north dragon]

Will come back here with feedback, and I hope w/o crying xD

[stoic storm]

so do we craft 2h weapon with embellishment?

[north dragon]

Sleep tight!

[stoic storm]

if it's mainly for m+?

[solar moss]

goodnight broski

[runic cypress]

If you want to gouge your eyes out and bash your head on the table managing two on use trinkets sure

[dense shard]

anyone else on stormrage DC

[spare steppe]

i currently am using mad queen and larynx

[compact reef]

is area52 fine?

[solar moss]

using treacherous do that to me alrdyt

[spare steppe]

i cannot recommend it

[runic cypress]

Eu maintenance

[white stream]

What

[royal peak]

lots of DC tonight

[runic cypress]

communicator spawns in the princess void portal episode

[white stream]

Dogshit indie company

[heavy dock]

goddamn im so glad i spent nearly 10min to talk about route for a +9 necrotic lol

[runic cypress]

I'm saying EU has maintenance maybe that's why people dced

[heavy dock]

nearly started in maintanance

[white stream]

Yeah but its fucking us

[runic cypress]

Oh nevermind I don't care if your region works or not

[white stream]

What? Who hurted u?

[runic cypress]

Society

[spare steppe]

I want all people to be happy

[spare steppe]

But I also want to know why I suck st fury 😦

[solar moss]

classic XD or spending 5 sec to find freaking orb and notice that it already floated of the ledge

[lone sage]

someone shit on your cereal kid?

therapy

[runic cypress]

Happened today on queen I was like "huh ok I guess"

[stoic storm]

For someone who mainly does m+ what is the embellishment crafting play? I'm sitting on my sparks because I keep hearing different things

[spare steppe]

Duskweave

[spare steppe]

Cause ascension blows in m+

[stoic storm]

so Cloak and Vambraces with double duskthread?

[runic cypress]

Cocaine or something else?

[serene vessel]

chat

make sure u dont anger ur dragons when running grim batol

[spare steppe]

i aint touching that yuski

[vivid tusk]

nice link bro

[runic cypress]

I saw that dude

[serene vessel]

xdd

[runic cypress]

[serene vessel]

accidentally copied my file path here

[spare steppe]

is that 2 bosses

[runic cypress]

No that's before the first boss

The trash drakes

[marble spruce]

If I want to use my sparks to craft a weapon, but I also know that I should be using 2x duskweave for M+, should I craft a weapon without an embellishment? or should I still put the darkmoon embelishment on the weapon and just run 1x duskweave? I also raid

[stoic storm]

^

[runic cypress]

all day today there have been no grim batol keys
Have a mist key myself
I'm never getting these fucking hammers I swear to god

[slow wraith]

Am I crazy, or is fury (less noticeable) having an abnormal threat generation with Bladestorm as it happened in shadowlands?

[noble elm]

Define abnormal

[slow wraith]

tank with good gear, you wait till he aggro, 5-10 seconds, you pop everything zug zug and get aggro instantly

[noble elm]

I’ve noticed some threat issues but I attributed that to ilvl disparity and tank skill

[slow wraith]

doesn't happen every time but from time to time

[noble elm]

More likely the tank is just not playing well

[summer quail]

tank skill issue

genuinely

[noble elm]

The disparity between tank dps and your dps is pretty wide right now - can amplify tank skill issues

[slow wraith]

I mean obviusly it's my fault If I pop my cd's 1 second after he aggro and rounds the mobs

[noble elm]

Untrue

[slow wraith]

but 5-6 seconds... damn that just feels bad man

[noble elm]

When I tank I rarely have issues holding threat even if dps open up immediately. It’s honestly just a tank skill gap

[swift cradle]

haste/vers vs crit/mastery for m+ stats? what do you guys think?

[indigo arch]

Crit mast but sim

[slow wraith]

is it not haste/mast or I'm still in dragonflight mode? 😂

[compact reef]

best enchating spec for money?

[swift cradle]

haste/vers simming better for sing targ, i have 2 OH's that im working with rn

[slow wraith]

thanks for the info guys about the threat stuff btw 🙂

[indigo arch]

Sim that against what occurs at 5tar 5m

I try to go for the most mt I can which doesn't also gut st

[steady wharf]

does anyone have a mouse-over intervene macro?

[wanton cliff]

Best is you wait , charge , only whirlwind and die from aggro 🙃

[broken pawn]

On ST is it better to use bloodbath as soon as possible (after crushing blow), or should the crit buff be stacked before using it?

[slow wraith]

that asks for some... accidental deaths 😂

[icy badger]

do we prio bloodbath due to 2 set or still just prio the crushing blow procs over it?

[summer quail]

crushing blow. set does not change any prios

[orchid sparrow]

I wonder how 4 piece works

2set ask me to cast more Blood thirst b4 rampage

[runic cypress]

Does it stack?

[orchid sparrow]

And 4 set ask me to refresh as much as raging blow b4 blood thirst

[runic cypress]

Ur not supposed to question the design choices just do delves and wait for season 2

[slow wraith]

how do you guys do an opener in M+? (not optimal I know but I just macro reck and avatar and then just bladestorm, ramp, odin, roar, crush, blood, then normal)

[orchid sparrow]

Understand 🫡

[unreal magnet]

Nice to meet you. I'm a Korean player playing Fury Warrior, but what do you think is the current 1 season Fury Warrior's haste cap?

[dense elbow]

O.75 GCD

[dense elbow]

Tldr: there is no cap, only balance between stats and goals. Use the robot to know

[brittle crow]

a52 is my favorite server

[compact knot]

when these server outages happen

its always the last one to go down

and the last one to come up

[slow wraith]

so if you absolutely love haste....

[brittle crow]

yesterday it got fucked hard and nobody else was effected 😭

same with rn

[compact knot]

nah

a lot of servers where fucked

[dense elbow]

Even EU have DC's atm, it is what it is

[hard widget]

Eu has maintenance xd

[unreal magnet]

Currently, my character has set a host figure of 18%, but I'm considering up to 21%, so is that a good figure? After that, I'm trying to match the high level of specialization and flexibility.

[runic cypress]

Should have picked a good server like MoonGuard-US or ArgentDawn-EU

[compact knot]

i only go on moonguard to make gold

[dense elbow]

Then why let me play, but my mate dc, hmm? Toxic blizz
Also talking throughout the day, not at current time.
Ppl dcing left right and center

[hard widget]

Yep my NW 9 depleted to it

[dense elbow]

Be honest

That already dead

[brittle crow]

so our nerfs are active rn?

[hard widget]

We had 13 minutes for last 2 bosses kekw

[runic cypress]

Have been all day?

[brittle crow]

well I have been BUSY

so EXCUSE ME

[dense elbow]

9 stonevault turned to 7 mist

[hard widget]

No they'll activate next month

*expansion

[velvet loom]

Hmm something change? My sims today are showing Crushing Blow as top DPS, did our prio change without notice?

[dense elbow]

Based on my burst in m+ being shit, balance is out

[runic cypress]

Eu maintenance is for applying even more fury nerfs

[hard widget]

Bro dont be like this

[dense elbow]

At this point, why not

We already dusted and gone

[runic cypress]

I can't society made me a doomer

[hard widget]

Kekw

[dense elbow]

Just finish the job wow devs

Do it

[hard widget]

Just sayin

[runic cypress]

I swear modern devs hate warriors for some reason

[dense elbow]

I just don't care, they just killed mah boii

[subtle rock]

has anyone made a WA or something for Treacherous Transmitter to see which one you have to chase faster?

[runic cypress]

They literally don't want us to succeed

[dense elbow]

Ret bursting more than me in keys, I just want to pass up the towel and go play Doom94

[runic cypress]

The bubble boys won

It's fucking over

[dense elbow]

Kinda low-key hope they keep nerfing furt

[slow wraith]

noticed that

[restive tiger]

i got that one, seems fine https://wago.io/jX4s-GYvb

[slow wraith]

ppl saying we would not notice the nerfs, ha!

[runic cypress]

Paid actors by blizzard

Crisis actors

[placid crane]

nerfs were viscous

[dense elbow]

I used to be top dmg, now I am bellow the frostmage
It is
Over

[hard widget]

Sounds like a skillissue idunno

[dense elbow]

Nah, only skill issue is my sudden drop in dam

[runic cypress]

Frost mages are not bad but the worse is the fucking druids

I hate them so much

[hard widget]

To be fair, i did notice quite a drop today in dungeons

[dense elbow]

If you didn't ya trippin fr

It is balance wise fine, I keep up, but it sucks being smaller than before

[hard widget]

Tbh, if they nerf FDK and Assa rogue AOE i think most classes are decently close together

[deep copper]

Hi guys, for fury atm it's Mastery first and Haste second right ?

[runic cypress]

More like ASS ROGUE 🤣

[dense elbow]

Haste, then mast, I say- but robot question for your gear

[heady saffron]

LOL GOTTEM

[runic cypress]

I have yet to see a fdk that's decent in keys

[summer quail]

generally yes, but always sim

[runic cypress]

I barely see any dks at all

[heady saffron]

ive yet to see a frost dk

[serene vessel]

outlaw is also cracked for keys

[heady saffron]

only unh and blood

[runic cypress]

It's all just rogues and mages

[hard widget]

I know a few, Waalpen and Vnvqt for example

[deep copper]

wym sim ?

[dense elbow]

Just wait till you see a decent enh Shaman

[serene vessel]

enh shammy also cracked for keys

[summer quail]

raidbots

[runic cypress]

I don't invite those to my keys

[hard widget]

I did some keys with Zac on beta but it didnt seem THAT strong

[runic cypress]

I get my shaman buff from restos

[hard widget]

Their st was good tho

[serene vessel]

they just consistently pop off on mobs because blade flurry is a 30 sec cd

[heady saffron]

i run in a group of 5 now, but dunno how rounded BDK/Hpal/Boomy/Lock/Fury warr is

[dense elbow]

Hpala, yuck

[heady saffron]

but we struggle in 9s and 10s

[hard widget]

My condolences

[heady saffron]

can do 8s with no issue

[runic cypress]

You have no shaman buff that's why you struggle

[dense elbow]

Boomy ain't that bad really, I seen em do good dam now

[heady saffron]

we have drums :O

[serene vessel]

shammy buff isnt lust

[runic cypress]

No idiot

[hard widget]

Your group has very little synergy and not a very high st potential

[heady saffron]

D:

[hard widget]

3 aoe blasters

[serene vessel]

no need to call him an idiot

[runic cypress]

I'm talking about wind fury+

[dense elbow]

Fury no st? Lier

ST all we good at

[slow wraith]

change lock for an ele?

[dense elbow]

Burst is gone

[hard widget]

Our st is okay in M+ its not good

[slow wraith]

I feel fine in ST with fury

in M+ tho

[dense elbow]

Okay is Fury bread and butter

[heady saffron]

not much to do about it we all want to play these classes so its an outgear the content or prayge for tuesday tuning

[runic cypress]

This is Skyhold we are clowning in here, better take your sensitive ass to Hammer of Wrath

[hard widget]

Depends on the content u want to clear, but it might be a bit rougher than other comps that have better synergy.

Doesnt make it impossible tho

[heady saffron]

yah just a bit rougher lol

[runic cypress]

Some people like it rough aha

[slow wraith]

if you all play what you want have fun and have skill you will do it, just harder than usual

[dense elbow]

I believe in you and your team, Mer

[heady saffron]

😳

<3

[hard widget]

The thing is, and this is what loads of people forget. Almost everyone copies what top teams do without thinking 2ce. However your comp has different strengths and weaknesses. Just find the strengths of your comp (heavy aoe most likely) and utilize on that

That can mean ur routes are VERY different, but can work very well for your comp

Just gotta cook up some stuff of your own because nobody will play the comp

[dense elbow]

Heavy AoE in today's keys kinda suck tho

So much shit on the ground and jazz

[runic cypress]

Just move out dude

[odd tangle]

47% mastery too much?

[slow wraith]

is last boss of city of threads overtuned? or did the group I was with just was not good enough?

[dense elbow]

Btw, in case someone had a bad day today:
At least you ain't a BM dying to random bolts

[hard widget]

www.raidbots.com

[heady saffron]

good to know thanks for the help <3 and info

[runic cypress]

The third boss is worse

[hard widget]

Anytime! Good luck mate ^^

[summer quail]

it's not. last boss is worse for sure

[slow wraith]

last boss right now feels like it needs quite a big D healer

[runic cypress]

All the groups I had so far struggled more on the third one because nobody cares to tank the orbs

[dense elbow]

Had a guildie spend a hour in there on that one on a 10, gl

[slow wraith]

toxin + the area is so much damage

[summer quail]

that's not the boss being worse, that's people being idiots. last boss is crazy overtuned

[slow wraith]

not there yet, did not have a lot of time today, but just in +4 it feels crazy

[vague valley]

I have 50%

[slow wraith]

2 unavoidable skills that happen one after the other kills you

[dense elbow]

Just believe in the victory rush, and ya will find the kill

[slow wraith]

indeed hahaha

the amount of times victory rush has saved me🥲

[runic cypress]

I did a 5 in time and it was okayish

[placid crane]

post nerfs my sim did drop about 30-40k

[runic cypress]

The anubarak AOE does less DMG the farther away you are

[slow wraith]

tipo on the skill doesn't say that, would be okay if it did...

[runic cypress]

What's really annoying are the orbs

But your tank should be able to kite the boss away from them and then keep moving

[slow wraith]

healer has to almost top off everyone before anub AOE if not, danger

[runic cypress]

I use rally whenever I can

[dense elbow]

Into the memory bank you go 🏦

[runic cypress]

Is that like the shadow realm? Don't banish me into the bank

[dense elbow]

Ya get back with interest, dw

[runic cypress]

But I'm not interesting

I'm kinda boring

[dense elbow]

Perfect, ya fit right in

[shut spade]

If rampage is always my top damaging ability does that mean I'm doing it wrong ??

[slow wraith]

if you play fury you can't be boring

[dense elbow]

Depends a lot on pulls, content and situations. In general, probably not

[shut spade]

Almost everytime aoe single target overall in keys its always number 1

[slow wraith]

only rampage if you are not enraged, or don't have crushing/bloodbath

maybe I'm wrong tho, but ST feels pretty good doing it like that

[dense elbow]

Of and Storm got stomped, so ye, ramp now up there now. Don't worry about it

As long you top DPS in key, ya did your job

[dense elbow]

[serene vessel]

the last boss is absolutely the hardest boss

[runic cypress]

NOOOO DON'T SEND ME TO THE SHADOW BANK

[dense elbow]

I hope someone will create a 2000s montage video of fury pumping dam in keys
So I get refueled with some hope and dreams

[clear quarry]

For m+ should I sim patchwerk or dungeon slice?

[serene vessel]

personally i sim patchwerk and then use feelcraft to understand trinkets better

[restive peak]

Last boss city is just rotating defensives properlyu

The actual mechanics are extremely simple

[serene vessel]

fror sure

but u need a good healer

[dense elbow]

Depends on what info you want. 5t is alright to minmax sustain AoE,1t for prio dam focus. So on

[serene vessel]

its a heal check

[slim coral]

https://tenor.com/view/noise-pizza-tower-shadow-realm-pixel-animated-gif-47101314348866393

[summer quail]

Ye but without aug that's super rough to live

[hasty river]

After Tuesday, arms is simming better in both st and aoe for me. Anyone else experiencing this? Feelsbad

[desert field]

it does. 1mil+ ticks and stuff flyin out

[dense elbow]

I dont sim, cause I don't want to be depressed

[slow vapor]

Arms only has 1 weapon, and fury has 2

Pretty sure the maths checks out

2> 1

[elder vessel]

For AOE that’s only gonna be in high keys

Fury burst is still better for lower keys

[runic cypress]

I'm gonna do a video where I get out pumped set to in the end to demotivate you further

[dense elbow]

Pog fish is right

[serene vessel]

you're also probably not accurately simming a realistic MT encounter

[dense elbow]

You wouldn't dare

[serene vessel]

you're not fighting 5 targets for 5 minutes

[slow vapor]

💪 🍤

[runic cypress]

I already downloaded bandicam trial

[hasty river]

[dense elbow]

bandicam

[slow vapor]

😎

[restive peak]

For us it's fine, dstance and reflect every single 1 of the mechanics

It's really not that bad

[serene vessel]

btw speaking of reflecting

u can reflect the web

lmao

[runic cypress]

The root?

[serene vessel]

ya

[runic cypress]

Neat

[slow vapor]

If i could read id probably agree even more

[slow wraith]

can you reflect this?

[serene vessel]

no but itll make u take reduced dam still

[slow wraith]

guessed as much

[serene vessel]

what I was doing was using SR at the tail end of splice

so id get ticks of splice + reflect web

[runic cypress]

Just enraged regen that

[vital helm]

Does this damage breakdown look correct or am I pressing rampage to much?

[slow vapor]

???? Am I pressing rampage too much??? My brother blowing your rage load is what we live for around here

Is there any better feeling besides bladestorm?

[runic cypress]

Do more slayer strikes and reap storms

[runic cypress]

Bladestorm last week

[slow vapor]

Bladestorm will come again 😎

No bladestorm is just sick anyways

https://tenor.com/view/beyblade-darius-jonathan-anime-gif-18632472

[dense elbow]

Remember when bladestorm did decent dam? I remember

[unreal magnet]

thx! 🫡

[runic cypress]

Feels like ages

[slow vapor]

i only been gone 2 days surely its not that bad...

[restive peak]

CB should be #1

[runic cypress]

No man it's been 4 years, you ok?

[vital helm]

I thought that was just a proc not like a thing you actually press?

[vital helm]

gotcha

[alpine crown]

Is one-handed fury ever a thing?

[runic cypress]

Yeah it is

[runic cypress]

It's a thing now, just put them into your arms

[slow vapor]

I cant remember that far, my brain only remembers the 3 keybinds i use to play fury

[dense elbow]

Show your key breakdown, I need some hopium

[runic cypress]

Hearthstone, Mount and Backwards

[slow vapor]

Ive got those 3 on a castsequence macro

And mousewheel for my main skills

😎

[hard widget]

Lies, ur Roar should be first, followed by OF and then bladestorm. Then you release, run back to the pack and then u should see ur other abilities on the meters

[slow vapor]

This guy fucks

[dense elbow]

You get to bladestorm Fake fury warr spotted

[hard widget]

Its only like 2 ticks before u release, but yes

[runic cypress]

The floor

[slow vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-world-of-warcraft-hunter-feign-death-captain-grim-gif-25195025

[dense elbow]

Frustration is when I do 3m and Pala does 3.5mill and I get all the mobs on me

Unfair

[restive peak]

I'll send 1 after splits

[dense elbow]

Hopium is comin'

[upbeat pulsar]

How many sparks does the Everforged Vambraces take. Is it also 2 like the weapon or is it only 1?

[modest condor]

1

only 2h weapons take 2

[upbeat pulsar]

ok cool. I crafted my 2h today. would you recommend also trying to craft the Consecrated Cloak or skip over it?

obviously i cant this week but for next reset

[modest condor]

i mean you're gonna want your 2nd embellishment, whether that's cloak or wrist idk tbh but it's probably one of those

[upbeat pulsar]

yeah okay.

[brittle crow]

meat hook finally replaced my 580 larynx

🥳

[modest condor]

looks like the recommended item is wrist

[upbeat pulsar]

👍

[fluid cedar]

yall running brutal finish for tyran?

[modest condor]

you always run brutal finish in m+

[frozen portal]

possible dumb question, when crushign blow is down, i have a free raging, and bloodbath and enrage are avail, correct choice would be enrage back into crushing then the BB right?

i feel like those are the moments in rotation where i go wtf

[serene vessel]

see i thought hte same but every key right now they're almost all running culling

[polar needle]

in like a 5 or 6 what is a avg enrage % over all ?

[sacred vault]

Hello, new here. I had a question when simming. I use raidbots and it always sims the Ravenous Honey Buzzard over the Ara-Kara Sacbrood. I use the default dungeon slice settings. Should I be using different settings? Or does raidbots just always put it over the Sacbrood because of the main stat on it?

[frozen portal]

Should raid multiptarget build have ashen juggernaut??

[tribal flint]

I feel like when I started hitting crushing blow after bladestorm instead of rampage my single target damage started getting correct

[lapis jackal]

do we go for 6stack slaughtering strikes typically?

or keep 100% uptime on enrage

[serene vessel]

pretend slaughtering doesnt exist

ignore it entirely

[lapis jackal]

word thats what ive been doing*

[unkempt galleon]

what's the highest you can craft the pvp sword

[summer crater]

Sacbrood is simulating lower than both shard and detachable fang for me for single-target

[summer crater]

636

[unkempt galleon]

just with the forged certificates right? or does it take a crest

[crisp bronze]

Does crafted belt/wrist come with socket or did they get rid of the free socket I forget

[normal mirage]

Boys need some feedback for AOE my sims are showing those two are my best DPS. They're both 1:30 cds. I should send the str trinket first right?

[sinful spoke]

the transmitter first

[normal mirage]

Figured

[craggy seal]

im getting conflicting info, are we running powerful enrage for multi target or frenzied?

[modest condor]

you can always sim it if you arent sure but powerful

(play frenzied, low haste feels like shit)

[rancid pivot]

do both weapons not count towards the ilvl calculation? I just upgraded my off hand from 597 -> 616 and my ilvl didnt change. Not worried just couldnt remember if it actually works like that or I am tripping out

[modest condor]

2h offhand doesnt count

[rancid pivot]

sweet thank you!

[latent arrow]

Yeah I'm.new to fury and after watching guides and reading stuff on wow head I'm still missing out on slot of damage /: I know it's a big ask but could anyone go through the rotation with me and useful macros ? I really want to improve, I'd really appreciate it 🙂

[spare steppe]

Wowhead guides are seriously good

[surreal blaze]

Do we use Authority of the Depths enchant on both MH/OH or do Radiant Power on OH?

[candid falcon]

id say sim it? bloodmallet isnt much help

[tribal flint]

Personally I went with depths x2 our AoE is fine. The extra boost in single is nice

[mild kraken]

How to warrior

[idle ember]

if i do only m+ and not raid is it worth summing?

[candid falcon]

roll face on keyboard

[idle ember]

simming*

do people sim m+ or is it pointless

[mild kraken]

You can sim 5 boss fight

[twin oasis]

what did you guys craft for the 2 sparks?

[nocturne dragon]

Hmmm I think getting 619 weapon will be quite good for the 2 sparks? I mean you are not necessarily have to recraft it to 636, who knows you got lucky with the weapon later at myth track.

[clever path]

so when can i start complaining that casters have like 1.5 mil more health than me.

kek

[heady saffron]

now

[clever path]

cause like as fury i miss having more health cause i have an entire other weapon

feels like we have less health than just about anyone now

[main cape]

Can anyone link the Jeventes execute weak aura?

I cant find it

[covert blaze]

i can bother him instead

[covert blaze]

@hard widget

[main cape]

LOL

[unreal onyx]

Real

[heady saffron]

ive been tauren for like 12 years and i just noticed how ass the stam racial is now

[daring brook]

mana oil or ironclaw whetstone?

[winter shoal]

You can sim it

I use DF runes because they're cheap and the others are not, and it's a really minor dps difference

Like 0.2% if I remember correctly

[lusty hedge]

ngl fury feels pretty dogshit in keys

compared to other classes

[winter shoal]

How so

[runic violet]

I'm a M+ focused player... which embellishment for weapon? darkmoon ascension for M+ as well?

[modest condor]

no

[winter shoal]

Probably double duskthread

[modest condor]

^

[last obsidian]

Mainly M+

[winter shoal]

It's a minor dps loss in raid (2% or so IIRC, Silm would know better) and much better in M+

[runic violet]

Oh... thread time again?

[haughty basin]

why is there such a big discrepancy between maxroll.gg and wowhead BIS gear for Fury

[winter shoal]

Maxroll hasn't been updated in a while bc Revvez is doing RWF stuff

[haughty basin]

ah okay

[winter shoal]

He and Archi were discussing gear and builds and stuff, and those updates are in the wowhead guide. They'll be on maxroll after race probs

[keen kindle]

Also sims better then bis gear

[vivid lagoon]

I I am probably wrong but why am I doing more dmg after I stacked crit and mastery ?

[winter shoal]

Did you run a top gear sim and it told you to equip those items?

[keen kindle]

Was it an ilvl increase?

[vivid lagoon]

I am 610 atm

Mrrobot told me to stack more crit not sure why

Lol

[winter shoal]

Probably because it was better than whatever else you had

Can you link the sim

[vivid lagoon]

I did that and i am doing more dmg

Yes

One second

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/h5yFqyS5tU1ATDxv3SZSzF

609 with this gear

[winter shoal]

HOLY

your talents are wrong bud

[vivid lagoon]

Lol

[winter shoal]

We don't use onslaught anymore

[viscid snow]

dont we use it in ST?

[winter shoal]

No

[vivid lagoon]

That’s the single target talent

[winter shoal]

Why do you have 1x duskthread and no second embellishment

Also where are the other gear choices in your top gear sim

[vivid lagoon]

I fucked up first week with my shards lol

I didn’t play dragon flight so I didn’t know how this new profession system worked

[winter shoal]

Unlucky

[vivid lagoon]

Yeah

Now I know

I even fucked up my profession knowledge

But I am fixing it

[winter shoal]

Only thing that really looks sus to me is the crit/vers ring

I mean you can have someone else craft your embellished gear with sparks, you don't need to do it yourself

What gear and enchant options are you using? I'd expect the sim to want you to go for vers instead if your mast and haste are already high

[chrome relic]

game easy boys

(i still need 15 crests pls dont roast)

[keen kindle]

15 crests short?

I smell a skill issue!

(Jokes aside gratz!)

[chrome relic]

yeah :/ i need to do keys!!!

[winter shoal]

@vivid lagoon
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/gReLwVc4aQZWJ4qtS8qwkk
Normally with a top gear sim you'll see something like this with the different gear combinations

[keen kindle]

I got out of +2 hell

LET'S GOOOO

[vivid lagoon]

Can I send you my sim so you can sim for me what is best in bags lol

[winter shoal]

Spending gilded crests on something other than 636 crafted 2h seems sussy

[vivid lagoon]

I think I am doing something wrong

Lol

[winter shoal]

You'd need to send your simc output

You can dm me

[vivid lagoon]

Ok

I send you

Hold on

[chrome relic]

yeah im dumb and sent heroic wep early

[dense sun]

befoulers syringe any good?

its in my vault

[chrome relic]

mid

[winter shoal]

Sim it

[winter shoal]

Unlucky, I wasted like 45 runed crests upgrading shadowblade trinket instead of farming from m+ like a dummy

[chrome relic]

felt brother

[whole lotus]

duality of man

[keen kindle]

Dude blizz patched the boralus skip in the dumbest way possible

it just zones you out LOL

[winter shoal]

That's when you call for a wipe I fear

[civic echo]

just incase there's any1 else who didn't know like me you cna get your embellishments crafted onto the 610 pvp gear

[lusty hedge]

just feels like we only do damge every 1.5 mins while every other class has way more consistent dmg pack to pack but I'm probably just trash

and even after burst doesn't take long for other classes to catch up

[winter shoal]

Odyn's is 45s cd

You can also drop a point in armored to the teeth to take uproar and make roar a 45s cd as well

I wouldn't recommend that in tyran week since it's like a 1% dps loss, but for fort week or lower keys it could be a good idea

[lusty hedge]

yeah but even odyns gets quickly outshined by wildfire bomb spam or warlocks

its cute burst for like 3 seconds then gone

[modest condor]

it's a small st loss for a small aoe gain

i think it's worth it tbh because it lets you have roar up for pretty much every pack

[winter shoal]

As a default choice or for fort week/lower keys Silm?

[lusty hedge]

yeah i think ima have to go that route, it could be my gear too

[modest condor]

as a default choice in general

[lusty hedge]

its just a bummer we get nerfed to shit because world first race when other classes are clearly better for M+ lol

[winter shoal]

Maybe I should do that for padding playing ethically on broodtwisters

[modest condor]

like the main gain from it is not so much that it's like a 1% dps gain on aoe but rather that it gives your roar on more packs

[winter shoal]

True

[modest condor]

it's also one of the reasons why people were discussing RA vs AM in keys on beta

like numerically RA is just better

but AM gives you bs more often, which helps too

[winter shoal]

Linc said AM for low keys and RA for high keys

He and I have different definitions of low vs high keys though

[modest condor]

right now it's kinda whatever but i would say once the season gets going anything below a 12 is low

[winter shoal]

Also I think it's just mentally easier to not have to worry about learning both prios

[lusty hedge]

shoulda just rolled frost DK

more brainless rotation for better results

[winter shoal]

I don't find fdk very fun tbh

And I beat our guilds fdk in both raid and keys so /shrug

[lusty hedge]

i'm still rocking a 580 offhand so thats prolly a huge part of my problem

need to get the pvp 2hander

and my trinkets are mid

[restive narwhal]

So how use Transmitter ? Just use it ~3-4 Seconds before Pull / Pack, do the Minigame, start pumping !?

[sullen dove]

ya

can do it more than that tho

i usually send it at like 10 for a raid

minigame lasts 15

gives time to like prep jumps if its jump

or clearly see what u have to do

[restive narwhal]

Ah true. I have time to complete the Task. No need to rush

Completely forgot about that. How long do we have Time to do the Task ?

[winter shoal]

Swordish how do I blast silken court

Feels so rng with BS cdr during damage amp

Or do you hold BS and roar for adds

[civic echo]

is there any1 that can craft pvp wrist?

trying to get my embellishment but can't find any1 lol

[ebon stag]

how bad is my stat distribution

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/aXewjsvXvZPfhGSeRpBetZ

prio was item level atm

[vivid lagoon]

I can craft weapon and wrist rank 5

[ebon stag]

or does raidbots even tell you stat distribution

[winter shoal]

Rings look a little sus but if that's the gear you have then it is what it is, your ilvl is still low so take what you can get

You should run top gear sim with the gear that you have

[civic echo]

would love to get wrist made whats you're ign

[stray mirage]

what weapon enchants for raids bois?

[civic echo]

authority of the depths

pretty sure

[stray mirage]

and m+ aoe?

[winter shoal]

Ye double depths is usually best for raid

I think radiant power is best for aoe but idrk

I'm not an M+ andy

[ebon stag]

Yea the rings are straight from delves so

How do you do the top gear sim option, im new to raidbots

[winter shoal]

• Go to https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/topgear
• Paste your simc output
• Select the different gear pieces you have and want to compare (see screenshot)
• Select whatever gems/enchants you want to compare, if any (it will just keep what you have by default)
• Choose "latest" for your simc version and then click "find top gear" at the bottom

[oblique trail]

2x radiant and 2x depths is pretty close to each other when compared for ST and AoE, so just pick one of the two depending on what your focus is, then don't think about it again

[ebon stag]

gotcha

[stray mirage]

sounds GUD

[sullen dove]

second set of cds i use on boss damage amp

[eager needle]

Is there any way to track the disc and ball for the treacherous transmitter? They don't give buffs or anything so I can't figure our how to make a weak aura for it

[patent wadi]

Quick question: from season 2 on in DF, if I crafted a weapon at x ilvl, I could then upgrade my 2nd 2h without using crests (sometimes had to switch to arms to trigger the discount), earlier in TWW, when I crafted my 606 weapon, i was likewise able to upgrade my other weapon to 606 without crests. However, I just crafted my 619 weapon, and I can't upgrade my 610 to 619 with the crest discount, was this nerfed in the last 2 weeks?

[main cape]

So double thread is a massive gain in M+ and only a 2% loss in raid?

[oblique trail]

Try and close the game and fully relogging

[oblique trail]

Basically yeah

[winter shoal]

you hold BS at all or just send it on cd?

[oblique trail]

Massive gain though is probably overselling it a bit

[runic violet]

Mostly send it... but sometimes hold for right timing

[main cape]

I'm more interested in the weapon tbh but I mainly do m+

[oblique trail]

But it's very good, as it's a lot more consistent and not much weaker than an ideal scenario for ascendance

You can still craft a weapon but not put ascendance on it

Which is still a recommended option

[sullen dove]

i think i send otherwise youd hold it like 2 minutes

can prolly get it back

[patent wadi]

that worked - thank you!

[sullen dove]

before the dmg amp

[winter shoal]

I've been doing reck charge OF ramp cb ava roar BS on pull so that OF is up for first amp

Then I guess second amp is 90s back up

[molten wing]

is it me or is Dawnbreaker like full of bugs

[winter shoal]

I'm mostly just not sure whether I should hold BS for adds or just send it whenever it's up

[winter shoal]

It sure is bud

[molten wing]

had tanks flying through the ships and dcing , had runs where we start do the first pull

go to the stairs and the ship is not there

[winter shoal]

Yep I've had both of those

[molten wing]

we then have to talk to a npc to leave and go back in lol

[winter shoal]

Try not to be going too fast when you land on the ship, helps with glitching through the floor

[molten wing]

yeah i just land on the back of the ship seems to work most of the times

[main cape]

Doe sanyone use publiks weak aura for fury?

[main cape]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/MmJRPQzbXqKxcknV#fight=36&type=damage-done&source=24

Shred me why do I suck

[vital helm]

im so bad i need to get my crushing blow damage up

[vague pivot]

Do you still run Ascension on weapons for M+ and duskthread lining?

[junior gale]

https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/1237303208754286715

[molten wing]

there is a #449510248579858432 page , where you can post it , but as a start, what is this opener ?

you are casting a bladestorm without being enraged

outside of spear for some reason

[main cape]

Dope thanks didnt see that page

But yeah idk what that is either, Im' trash lol

[molten wing]

its all about getting the muscle memory of the priorities into your rotation just go slap the dummies for 10-15 mins each day if you can etc

[main cape]

Yeah the wowhead/icy readin isn't doing it for me, I need to find a video I guess

I thought coming form feral this would be cake

apparently not

[heavy flax]

Hard to look at things on mobile but based on your damage breakdown, i’d make sure youre spending your crushing blow and bloodbath before pressing rampage again assuming enrage isnt about to fall off

[molten wing]

its just going through the priorities in your head before pressing stuff , like your number 1 priority is to get to enrage asap , so the actual opener reflects that. The correct opener should include Recklessness into Charge which instantly gives you rage to Rampage , this in turn guarantees you an enrage window in which then you can send your Spear into Bladestorm or whatever you need there

[valid pulsar]

jo guys i have 606 "detachable fang" trinket and it sims almost 3k dps better than 606 egg from ara kara despite being way lower ranked on bloodmallet. why is that the case ?

[tidal kindle]

I'm IN JAIL

HELP

[vital helm]

my mastery is so low its simming at a similar weight to strength, its over

[tidal kindle]

[valid pulsar]

i also simed it with aoe talents for dungeons and its also worse there. i dont understand

[vital helm]

its literally my lowest secondary 😭

[molten wing]

i got out of jail despite it being on the champion track i refuse to enter Grim Batol again for a while

[noble island]

what do you guys reckon, should I blast this badboy to 619 or wait for other trinkets

[plucky ice]

[mystic hill]

can u remove an embelish btw?

[heady saffron]

teaser that theyre gonna remove bladestorm next

[unreal onyx]

Still don’t know what the cryptic info means

Is this like a puzzyB channel?

[limber ether]

you get one of 3 tasks

[oblique trail]

Yes with something called Griftah's something something

[limber ether]

jump 3 times, collect an orb that spins around you, or stand still in a circle

[oblique trail]

Don't remember the name exactly of its name

[unreal onyx]

That sounds pretty ass to do tbh

[limber ether]

it will feel similar in use to the academy football trinket, or the dancing sheet from council of blood

good reward, but feels like shit to use

[unreal onyx]

Yea

I guess I‘ll stick to khardros/sacbrood or mandate

[edgy oasis]

Same

[restive narwhal]

We craft Weapon with Ascendence of the Deep and Wrists with Empowering the Nerubian Embellishment Thing, right ?

[slate escarp]

how can ppl craft both of these i just have 2 sparks? but i need 3

[paper ivy]

U need to wait till next week

[molten wing]

you can add embelishments to crafts that don't require sparks

so you can craft the 610 pvp wrists with the nerubian embellishment

[slate escarp]

ah okay

[wicked dew]

does that require conquest

[clever belfry]

yes

yesnt actually

you just win a BG bro, any bg

[noble island]

you get these conquest tokens

you get 9 for free

rest cost 190

[clever belfry]

175

[noble island]

some items require 3-4, other liek weapons cost 10 tokens

you can craft 590 items too with embellishment just aas a placeholder to actviate the second embellishment

[sudden tusk]

im in sac jail

[tidal kindle]

I don't have either

🪦

[fossil rose]

what should fury be crafting for m+?

icyveins shows bracer and cloak for vers embelish?

[strange basalt]

Prob weapon still

[open storm]

why play frenzied over powerful enrage

i have alot of haste currently and pretty high mast 15% damage seems way better in aoe

[deep stone]

I've seen many different people split on this I'm with you tho I think powerful is better

[fossil rose]

crafting any 2h is fine right since u can mog whatever 🤔

[balmy socket]

hey guys, so i got my 4 p (everything but no head) what 2 craft should i do here, i got 2x 619 Silken court weapons so i was thinking about head and waist or wrist?

[deep stone]

No head

[balmy socket]

so wrist and waist, but what embellishment?

[noble island]

Id craft a weapon

[restive pewter]

anyone know the name of the addon that flashes when something is off cd like faded out huge in the middle of your screen

[noble island]

Just get the highest crests from mythic + / raid

And then craft a low-stat off piece like belt / cloak / wrist

[still wave]

Doompulsecd or something like that

Iirc

[balmy socket]

but the 1. boss can drop myth weapon 😄

[restive pewter]

ur the goat

[noble island]

If you are focusing on raid you want the weapon embellishment

[night relic]

U still want a crafted off hand

[noble island]

The ascension emb. Can only go on weapons

[balmy socket]

is ascension still good for m+ or kinda meh

[young swan]

ive been finding it to be okay-ish

not great not horrible

[lean heart]

apparently u can charge the boss to negate the yoink on ansurek

huge

[balmy socket]

okay ty i guess im gonna craft weapon then still for raid

[covert blaze]

Leap out before first pull

Charge back

[lean heart]

yeh yeh

[covert blaze]

Second pull cancel the pull with blsdestorm

If it aligns

Depends on CD usage and slayer strikes procs

[junior gale]

usually aligns unless your really unlucky

[covert blaze]

I'm doing 3rd bomb

So sometimes I don't get it back in time

[junior gale]

I don't do mechanics im just allowed to zug

[fossil rose]

ah so just craft a 2h then 🤔 if M+ should she just do haste mastery still or mastery vers

[native saffron]

Does anyone have a nice upgrade track image displaying when gear uses diff crests etc

I think there have been a few in the past

[fossil rose]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/557346930213257226/1285779907280109589/image.png?ex=66ecd4da&is=66eb835a&hm=0748a661de7ea2d7033c32cb5dbcb1a0cf17e161c1ea07324850d386ee5d696a&

like this?

[native saffron]

Big! Thanks

[safe juniper]

how would you suggest simming warrior for raid since 6/8 of the bosses are cleave

[native saffron]

Oh im stupid. Thats only a loot drop table, not the upgrade track, or is it the same?

[plain magnet]

hey, there is a big difference between Charged Claymore and Everforged Axe? Axe is a lot cheaper

[native saffron]

Craft either, no diff

[fossil rose]

what emblishment in 2h craft if not raiding and just m+

is ascension still the best

[opal current]

Thanks you mate 🫡

[drifting adder]

Hello, im about to craft my 2h sword but im wowhead is saying vers/mastery .. but my mainstats is mast/hast? What have other player crafted? thanks for all inputs

[modern ingot]

I’m really not the one to bitch and moan about nerfs but Blizzard really has no idea how to tune/nerf a class. It’s like they never played a warrior in any active content.

[honest crystal]

My Sims I lost about 300k and its really noticeable in the HC raid I did yesterday

[slender badger]

Fury plays literally the same and pre nerf. Numbers are just lower. So the apect of "fun" gameplay is still the same

[oblique trail]

Those are some cooked sims you're comparing to

[honest crystal]

I have better gear and 4 set than last week yet can't get near my HC raid DPS I did before

[oblique trail]

Losing 300k is not real

[fickle bluff]

no its real fury is completely unplayable now

[modest condor]

real

[modern ingot]

Yeah it plays the same nothing has changed, but can anyone justify all the nerfs received in this patch? With our 4 set, in higher raid difficulty and high keys where not everything dies in 6 seconds.

[slender badger]

You should still be able to push about 900-1M with like 605+ gear

[golden hare]

if blizzard had a bluepost saying 3% aura nerf but didn't change anything, we would still complain about losing damage i stg

[honest crystal]

I'm 609 4set

Last week SIM was 1.4 mill

Now it Sims just over 1 mill

[golden hare]

link the two sims pls thx

[young swan]

yeah id be willing to bet that was dslice

[formal hazel]

Max gear fury sims are like 1.4m

And 4p is less than a percent so it doesnt matter

[native saffron]

Im unsure if he is serious or not

[slender badger]

The only fight where I really felt the nerf was Ky'veza. Otherwise it wasn't that impactful imo.

[dull sierra]

[forest owl]

Yeah i was simming about 1.1 last week 609 pretty much pre raid bis so dunno where you getting 1.4 from

[serene vessel]

I mean the nerfs definitely feel impactful in m+

[toxic coral]

Where I really feel the nerf is in m+. Playing with a team of friend, always was at top, pushed ksm yesterday and in the 10hours+ we played, never even been second and I don't think I forgot how to play in 2 days lol

[serene fox]

ksm tf

[harsh latch]

got my first 99 log last night 🙂 although it was normal it still good imo

[serene vessel]

I said this would be the case and I was called a doomer tho lols

[tardy lark]

only requires a +7 timed in every key which is fairly easy if you are in any way competent

[weary ice]

1.4mil sim…

What kinda sim you running

[serene fox]

oh its +7

for some reason i thought 15

[toxic coral]

Yeah a bunch of 7/8 got us the ksm pretty quickly

[serene vessel]

That was the old system

[serene fox]

still a bit beyond me for now but good to know its achievable

[molten wing]

i'm still waiting for hte grim batol nerfs

[serene vessel]

?

Grim batol is the easiest key this season

[toxic coral]

Grim batol feels ok to me

[serene fox]

was wondering how people were gonna do it when even +2 feels like a big step up from 0

[tardy lark]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/vCZXh84mCNV327L4vgaHJD

[weary ice]

Last boss in threads pumped us pretty good

[toxic coral]

Yeah last boss in thread is brutal

[serene vessel]

Threads NW and boralus are the hardest

[opaque widget]

Yo boys, opinion on this?

616 cape, bracers or gloves or the 603 tier (champion track)? Simming wouldn't really make sense since it's more the strategic choice I suppose

[serene vessel]

Socket

[tardy lark]

you can reflect Splice

[weary ice]

100% socket with those choices

[serene vessel]

Wait what

[toxic coral]

Are you fr ?

[weary ice]

Which is splice

[molten wing]

faced many many issues with the 3rd boss in Grim Batol for some reason when the adds fixated someone and they get knocked the adds decide to switch their fixated target and they go for the melee attacking them and just blow up

or something similar was so weird

[toxic coral]

We we got that once too

Idk why

Add suddenly changed the target he was fixating

[opaque widget]

Thanks mate

[opaque widget]

Thanks!

[serene vessel]

I mean reflecting splice is a game changer, but that fight still requires so much healing

[molten wing]

Dawnbreaker is also just full pepega

[serene vessel]

Dawnbreaker also seems crazy easy

[molten wing]

not in terms of being hard or easy

in terms of having 3-4 bugs every run

[runic violet]

u know whats the worst about dawnbreaker?

when u have to repair... but u don't have jeeves

[serene vessel]

How bored you get?

Oh

[runic violet]

u literally can't get out of dungeon unless hearth

[molten wing]

tanks flying through the ship dcing / killing the first pull and the ship is just not there

like shit is just insane

[serene vessel]

I thankfully haven't ran into that

[runic violet]

and I still fucking timed it with my entire gear about to break

[tardy lark]

thankfully they placed a repair anvil thing at the entrance 🙂

[runic violet]

lol

[tardy lark]

🙃

[runic violet]

u can't fly to entrance...

[serene vessel]

But tbh I'm moreso concerned about the longevity of this season. These dungeons are kinda just not fun

[runic violet]

u die :0

[serene vessel]

Ans I'm someone who only likes m+

[serene fox]

im having a lot of fun in all but mists

[tardy lark]

dungeons just feel overtuned compared to the gear you get for them is my gripe so far

dungeons themselves are decent

[runic violet]

I think the tuning is ok.

we will be geared in weeks and breeze thru +10

[serene vessel]

They just feel like slogs

[molten wing]

also if you die after the second boss in Dawnbreaker you get ported to the ship and you cant mount to go down again

[tardy lark]

[molten wing]

so if you haven't done your % before the second boss you are a bit fucked

[eternal sundial]

@tardy lark are you also a 516 Andy now

I didnt check prog yet

[tardy lark]

bro i havent even sent 4set yet

[eternal sundial]

Aware

But going mythic now surely

[tardy lark]

we were so slow on splits last night that my split didnt finish ansurek

so ansurek into mythic tonight

[bitter palm]

no 4 set yet

[eternal sundial]

4/8 gladge

[bitter palm]

got 4set from lfr cinema

[tardy lark]

i have guaranteed 4set already, but no reason to send catalyst on champion/hero track gear

[eternal sundial]

🎦

[serene vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-12869046600151364058

[bitter palm]

man i hate how bad our tier is

[eternal sundial]

Thoughts on looting first boss weapon

I think you should do that

[tardy lark]

its just a nice to have kek

[forest owl]

no 4 set here, my guild did full nm and 7/8hc last week and no zenith token dropped