#fury

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gusty fern
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feelycraft
not in raid bot

exotic eagle
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any1 else plays this trinket and has the feeling it is more loss then gain?

buoyant salmon
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you have to collect your buff

teal pine
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Out tier set being mid is a way less valid argument than people think. People stuck in a fury bubble thinking only they have it bad

twin halo
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guys i need your help deciding on my vault

quiet geyser
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So legit the only 2 bosses in the raid? 1 of which fury is only mid at already. Ya keep going.

buoyant salmon
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are you stupid on purpose

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you admit fury was good at the 2 st bosses which were arguably their weakest encounters

exotic glacier
buoyant salmon
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as if you won that point of the argument

gusty fern
buoyant salmon
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find an orb, stand on a marked location, or jump 3 times

quiet geyser
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Choco, are you actually dumb? Fury was legit right in the middle for silkran last week. I dont see how thats upper tier. I already said the AoE nerf was justified, i dont think the 3% nerf was, atleast without some kind of ST or atleast a tier set compensation

versed nymph
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hey guys, i saw people with item 610 from Timewalking dungeon. Can someone explain me ? I see only 597 on the aventurer guide

latent monolith
warped bone
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Black Temple ye

buoyant salmon
versed nymph
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i just have to do BT ?

oak garden
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Am i dumb or di we get another BS and OF nerf on 11.0.5

lusty hedge
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Do we macro recklesness and avatar together?

quiet geyser
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I dunno, i see fury right in the middle

oak raven
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im stuck there 😦

lofty forge
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am i dumb if i choose a 616 weapon over 616 tierhead?

latent monolith
buoyant salmon
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maybe i hallucinated beating most of my raid on fury

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with worse gear

buoyant salmon
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idk what %ile youre looking at

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i wipe my ass with 800k st dps

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even last week

quiet geyser
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That was 90th+

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And as u go higher

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Fury actually gets worse just an fyi

torn sentinel
lusty jungle
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Im always #1 everywhere I go, do you know why? Because im a fury warrior. Delusion is in my veins and hubris my blood

quiet geyser
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So please know what the hell you're talking about before you spit your crap

mint spade
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😄

rigid stirrup
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Anyone timed a +9 yet? Wanna know how bad it hurts

buoyant salmon
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yeah i guess liquid method and echo players suck for losing to warrior dps on sikran consistently

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youre right that ones on me

covert void
sage smelt
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Question for any Fury enjoyers, the wowhead guide says to use the meta gem with .15+ crit effect, and then a single color gem and fill the rest with quick onyx,. The sim is telling me to ignore the meta gem requirement and use quick onyx everywhere. I assume trust the robot?

buoyant salmon
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i mean im not at my computer/logged into wcl so i cant show any logs of my own kills

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but like

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fury was really really good

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caught a small nerf

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caught another nerf

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and are now just pretty good

covert void
buoyant salmon
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i know i am thanks buddy

gusty fern
quiet geyser
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Again, thats mostly due to raid design choco

covert void
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anyways, nerf paladins I say. we get nerfs, well they seem to be slapping in any m+ I see them in.

buoyant salmon
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yes bc i was holding cds to pad in heroic splits

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you got me there

forest owl
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glad i wasnt seeing things earlier ive seen a couple pinks up on the meters, havent beat me yet but 1 or 2 come close

quartz charm
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I've been fury Warrior since burning crusade, I finished dragónflight season 3 (last time I played before this expansion) with 3200 rating and ending always top tier DPS. But I still struggled to find groups. Fury Warrior's utility is literally shit

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You bring nothing to the table besides damage

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Thats our real life

rigid kestrel
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so what is people craftingh?

buoyant salmon
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utility doesnt matter at all

quiet geyser
buoyant salmon
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yes

chrome gulch
lusty jungle
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Our utility is to blow up web wraps like nobody else

past pivot
buoyant salmon
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i played arms bc it’s more fun besides on aotc where i was made to play fury

quiet geyser
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Then you should know already furys boss dam is pretty poo

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Ah k

quartz charm
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Tell It to high mythic+ players

frigid cloud
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isnt it kinda stupid that we can drop one handed weapons when not talented into SMF

quartz charm
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And more in dragónflight when your single target dmg was bullshit

buoyant salmon
quartz charm
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45 minutes to find a group

quartz charm
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In 96 parse Dungeon rating

buoyant salmon
frigid cloud
restive peak
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I love free food

buoyant salmon
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ppl think you need a hyper optimized group for low keys in terms of title pushing standards

lusty jungle
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Yo is the mark from 1600 pvp champion or hero track

fiery pagoda
quartz charm
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At 3k plus my friend

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They do

fiery pagoda
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lol

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ive been up there buddy

quiet geyser
fiery pagoda
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promise u they dont

eager thorn
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so hero p sure

sudden tusk
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they can play w/e

quartz charm
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Not once but Many times

frigid cloud
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lol really

buoyant salmon
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ppl are crinnge

quartz charm
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In dragonflight or you were streamer or famous somehow

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Or as warrior fury you were desd

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Dead

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Like dead

frigid cloud
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i always thought arms is fun but i dont like the cleave abillity baked into rotation so i went with fury so far

tribal flint
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Get double authority of depths

merry cloak
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heared something about ptr another bladestorm nerf?is that right?

fiery pagoda
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i had 99.9 overall dungeon parses and not once did i ever get messaged about being declined or accepeted because of my dungeon parse lol

quartz charm
quartz charm
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I got the answers like that

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Maybe if you dont Whisper before they dont tell you

charred panther
sly mulch
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It's cringe af tbh to whisper people before inviting you or ask them why you're not getting invited @quartz charm

quartz charm
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I know its cringe

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But when you got a job and things to do, waiting over 20 minutes to do something is a killer

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And when you do your shit and still canot get a group

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Gets you mad

lusty jungle
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Guys I figured it out, they nerf us because they will give us a legendary again, cope with me

fiery pagoda
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wwas just weird that you were saying that people are declining you over your dungeon parses like it was an outlier. feels like you're worried about the wrong thing

quartz charm
open prairie
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or just make friends

serene vessel
quartz charm
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But getting a group was really hwrd

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Hard

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If you were shaman or evoker or mage It was instant

serene vessel
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well yeah

fiery pagoda
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idk i guess im not having issues finding groups but im also 614 ilvl which helps

serene vessel
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thats just the nature of pugging tho

quartz charm
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Thats what im.talking about

serene vessel
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you have to be ahead of the curve

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or ur gonna have a bad time

open prairie
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Or a tank

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prot’s fun

quartz charm
open prairie
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I mean….

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Playing melee in these dungeons

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gives me a tumor

quartz charm
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Playing Warrior to me feels real

buoyant salmon
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these dungeons just suck in general

quartz charm
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Strong

buoyant salmon
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its not a melee or ranged thing

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they just fucking suck

quartz charm
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I dont know, I don't feel like playing anything else

open prairie
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yeah but as tank

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i can stand in shit

quartz charm
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Since 10 yewrs ago

open prairie
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np

ionic bone
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guys, any chance that stacking radiant of power weapon enchants does not actually do anything? in a 6 min fight i only got 6 procs

buoyant salmon
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theres atleast 2 dungeons that have untankable movs

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movs

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mobs

serene vessel
buoyant salmon
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or nearly untankable after a stacking buff gets applied

open prairie
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Though

serene vessel
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also the balance between dungeons is fuckin wild

open prairie
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how tf do i outdps most rets on bosses

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as fucking prot war

buoyant salmon
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prot warrior boss dam is beans bro

past pivot
serene vessel
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a 7 grim batol feels easier than a 2 city of threads

open prairie
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what is highest dam tank rn anyway

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vdh?

past pivot
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DKs look strong AF from my experience

serene vessel
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only 2 10 city of threads have been timed rn

open prairie
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But yeah pugging keys as dps

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is something else

charred panther
ionic bone
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anyone else with 2x power radiance notice this ?

open prairie
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You need to get your head examined

serene vessel
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fucks

silk matrix
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Good night! A question for you, in the Vault I have dropped two boots, my BIS at 610 and some depth boots at 616 that are not my BIS but have VERY similar statistics (Changed that it has a little more mastery and less Haste) I attach you photo and give me your opinion because I think I should take the one with 616

charred panther
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Changes they made on last boss of ara are so nice

ionic bone
past pivot
summer quail
serene vessel
open prairie
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lil bro called a non myth track piece bis

buoyant salmon
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atleast as of last night

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last boss is so disgusting

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overlaps happen all the time and the dot on its on almost warrants a personal

silk matrix
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thx guys!!

serene vessel
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ya dungeon balance is wild

summer quail
serene vessel
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It's also what made me realize that frost DKs have way too much fuckin built in defense now

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who allowed that class to go live the way it is

buoyant salmon
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fury is a tankier spec though

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dont get me wrong dks are unkillable

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but fury is rpetty clearly the tankiest dps spec

serene vessel
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is it? Have u seen how much passive defense DKs get?

open prairie
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reflect is a 20% magic dr

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on a 25s cd

serene vessel
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Fury used to be, I don't think they still do

serene vessel
buoyant salmon
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d stance is no cd

open prairie
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isnt it conditionally 30s

buoyant salmon
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dk is insanely tanky

serene vessel
buoyant salmon
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warrior is too though

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so like its not a shocker that if one exists in this state both can

frank dawn
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the dps dks in my guild missed that memo

buoyant salmon
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10% passive magic dr

serene vessel
buoyant salmon
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ok

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and

summer quail
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except you have to stack it

buoyant salmon
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warrior has more health, warpaint, spell reflect, and dstance

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with just those alone, insane spec

ionic harness
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Regarding the Transmitter, do I use it together with avatar, reck and bladestorm?
or first the trinket, and after the effect hits the rest?

buoyant salmon
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first the trinket

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solve rhe puzzle immediately use cds

ionic harness
serene vessel
buoyant salmon
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i thought they do

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im not sure

serene vessel
buoyant salmon
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now that you mention it

serene vessel
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they also get will of the necropolis and blood draw now

past pivot
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Lots of fury seem to skip the 5% extra stamina talent

serene vessel
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it might be neck and neck, but I genuinely think frost dk is the tankiest dps spec now

buoyant salmon
drifting adder
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is it charge claymore i should craft?

buoyant salmon
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deathstrike is a massive loss compared to iv though

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so if they have to heal its kinda cooked

serene vessel
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ya i cant comment on their self heal, I havent played dk in a minute

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I'm just basing off who can survive AoE dam and 1 shots better

karmic crow
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hows fury feeling even after the nerfs?

restive peak
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We 2 chest'd 10 ara kara today, bout to do 10 threads

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People expectin to do like 23s in 608 😛

serene vessel
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good luck

restive peak
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You've gotta remember fort/tyrann instantly makes a 10 like a 23/24 instead of a 19/20

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Thanks bro

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We almost timed 11, decided to reset

serene vessel
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threads?

restive peak
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Ye

zenith maple
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this might be a dumb question but the RA build in M+ do you guys pop avatar with reckless together then bladestorm? or avatar, then bladestorm, into reckless and cleave rotation

edgy oasis
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oooooooooof - seen a MASSIVE difference in mythic dungeons...fury feels meh again.

past pivot
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Fury or M+ vs M0?

zenith maple
arctic portal
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did you guys know you can solo this? i didnt until 5 mins ago 😄

past pivot
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Yes. It's story mode. That's the focus of it

dense sedge
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guys using treacherous transmitter

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u popping it before pull

warm crag
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ye

dense sedge
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its doing ym head in where im popping shit and it's miles away

edgy oasis
warm crag
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just complete the task by charging through it

serene vessel
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i still stand by the fact that they should have counteracted w/ a buff to meat cleaver

opaque juniper
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maybe ur not sending ur CDs enough?

warm crag
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you stand alone

frank dawn
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sanity check here, adding 6 sockets to my gear was only showing 2% dps increase? anyone been playing with that? That seems wrong to me lol

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not gonna spend 100k on settings and gems for 2% lol

tidal kindle
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@autumn mulch is this real flow

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Nope

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Holy shit theres so many flows in here

tawdry lily
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@tidal kindle meow

exotic eagle
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Any1 tried?
Is it good? Or does anyelse feel it costs dps?

dense sedge
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sorry was that a yes for popping treacherous before pulll

warm crag
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fine trinket

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yes pop it 4-10 seconds before pull

dense sedge
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sweet thgank you

warm crag
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finish the task by charging over it

exotic eagle
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No pop, its perma. but debuff n haste makes u hit like a gramps

bitter palm
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they are talking about transmitter

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ritual knife is good

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u can sim it

exotic eagle
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well.. i simed it, it sims 10k better then my other one... but it feels bad sometime Q_Q

hollow quiver
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if Sudden Death buff comes to an end and I don't have 3 stack of mark, should I exec or not worth?

exotic eagle
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3.3k Perma Str. and 1.2k Mastery.. nice stats, but gettign a a 3k penalty on haste.. i dont know 😄

earnest tiger
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Sure sometimes you’ll have dog rng, but it evens out over time/ longer fights , up to you if you care or not

warm crag
hollow quiver
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soemtimes I have frequent sudden death procs

fleet herald
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what should I get help

sage smelt
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Question for any Fury enjoyers, the wowhead guide says to use the meta gem with .15+ crit effect, and then a single color gem and fill the rest with quick onyx,. The sim is telling me to ignore the meta gem requirement and use quick onyx everywhere. I assume trust the robot?

warm crag
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in like reck or?

fleet herald
warm crag
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outside of reck that should solve itself since you run out of buttons to press

weary dew
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anyone got a fury st build without spear?

brave totem
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bad right?

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i have these

arctic grotto
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Syringe pumps

warm crag
forest owl
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is ele some good m+ spec too almost got beat by chain lightning -.-

brave totem
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using double useable trinket doesn't feel good

weary dew
warm crag
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its just the same build as the spear one

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but u lose like 1% damage or so

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remember you dont have to actually stand in the spear anymore

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simply hitting it is enough

weary dew
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oh didnt know that tbh

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but still dont like spear xd

arctic grotto
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But the spear hitbox seems small, I missed it sometimes when I charged and popped cds with spear

spring fog
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For m+ focus, do I still craft wep with ascension?

warm crag
fading bane
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okay im ready for mythic queen ansurek

warm crag
bitter palm
pure totem
fading bane
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big cloak

bitter palm
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🎦

warm crag
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is that the super rare one

fleet herald
arctic grotto
fleet herald
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weapon with no main stat>

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?

bitter palm
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good for st bad for aoe

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but u can farm hero pieces

undone venture
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Weapon sims high

fading bane
fleet herald
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but this means no 4p next week if not lucky

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if i get weapon

warm crag
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still giga baseg

undone venture
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Fury 4 piece is dookie

delicate yacht
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you get another catalyst next week

fleet herald
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next week

quaint dove
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Does anyone know of a weak aura that adds a tick (duration of GCD) to an enrage progress bar?

delicate yacht
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yes

fleet herald
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-1p sadge

delicate yacht
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so if you don't have 4 piece by next week you've done something wrong

undone venture
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So many options to get 4 piece, very few to get that weapon

fleet herald
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so the weapon is that good

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okay

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thanks

arctic grotto
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How much is fury 4p again? Like 2% increase in overall dps? So if you sim 1mil dps, it's just 20k

undone venture
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And u can upgrade other weapons to 616 for free

fleet herald
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thanks a lot

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will get it

hollow raptor
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what tier piece dont we want ideally?

keen nimbus
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2nd retri pala that blows out of the water in m+

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cool

arctic grotto
hollow raptor
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haste mastery?

plucky ice
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wowhead has non tier head, tbh the difference is probably minor

hollow raptor
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rlly?

upbeat pulsar
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If i don't plan to raid am i better off just making a 619 weapon as i'm not sure if i will be able to get a gilded harbinger crest (I already have a Runed Harbinger crest)

warm crag
timber quiver
arctic grotto
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Don't you get gilded from m+ aswell?

timber quiver
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yes from +9s

outer mason
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Is mana oil the way to go?

upbeat pulsar
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yeah you get em from +9s however im unsure if my group is gonna be able to push that high.

young swan
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+10s are wild

arctic grotto
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I still use runes because I'm poor af sadge

charred panther
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That is poor

warm crag
arctic grotto
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necrotic is easy

warm crag
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which one

plucky ice
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so what's optimal way to use ovinax egg trinket

drifting adder
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What stats are ppl crafting on their Charge Claymore?

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Haste/ mast is good?=

arctic grotto
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No I'm a +8 pleb sadgers

young swan
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it is

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so fucked

warm crag
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city is nuts

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the difficulty curve is amazing

young swan
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yeah its wacky wavy

forest owl
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guys what ilvl are you and what is your overall in a typical m+

young swan
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1m is the low end for me at 611

warm crag
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artistic representation of the city difficulty curve

young swan
warm crag
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its 100% fine if you perfectly work out the reflect timers for the final boss

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u gotta like prereflect the first one so u can reflect both

storm meadow
forest owl
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im doing roughly 1.2-1.3m per run highs of 1.4, but i see ele's, rets coming close at times not sure if im doing something wrong or those specs are decent

young swan
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yeah just have ur healer sustain 1.5m hps for the entire fight

warm crag
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city of threads

young swan
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also if ur not topped when slam comes out ur group dies

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have fun!

warm crag
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like the thing is if u play reflects perfectly u can concentrate defensives into slam/root

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and healer only has to heal 4 ppl

young swan
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yeah its not so bad if u can manage splices perfectly

keen mica
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What do u guys think about using a rotation helper addon? Its shame thing? Or its really helpful or not?

young swan
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but like

warm crag
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my littlewigs wasnt showing splices

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i was guessing

young swan
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i think once the second ball swirlie shows up u can SR

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idk

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i didnt play around with it much

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just made it work

warm crag
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how much over time

young swan
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uhh

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idk

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cant remember

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i think like 25m

warm crag
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and it was only a 9

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at least ara kara is omega farmable

empty mirage
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is trading 45 sec of roar for 5% more strenth really a better move?

young swan
split yoke
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Hey, just wondering what's the thought process behind having hands instead of head as a tier piece. Is it just how the optimal profile stat weights worked out or am I missing something?

warm crag
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you're reading into bis lists too much

young swan
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^

warm crag
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make a choice that is optimal for your character right now instead of what someone determined to be "bis" for a race that probably doesnt even match yours

willow cradle
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Bis list is Bis ONLY when at full Bis, just sim yo stuff

warm crag
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even then bis lists are shaky

split yoke
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I have indeed simmed my character and picked head, just wondering if there was some reason I was missing

warm crag
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im p sure the wowhead one uses an offpiece that has the same stats as the tier piece

split yoke
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Yeah that made me wonder

pastel oak
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Would you play trecherous transmitter in all situations?

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Is it to strong not to?

warm crag
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probably yeah its really good

pastel oak
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Got normal version im vault vs tier legs

forest owl
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i used transmitter intermission on ansurek when she grabs you and it spawned orb in middle sadge

pastel oak
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But.i guess its an easy choice

warm crag
tribal flint
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This is my BiS when bladestorming in pugs with shadowmeld down

warm crag
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angle yourself properly to not have irretrievable items

forest owl
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had i known that id have done it thanks 🙂

warm crag
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but also why do you have 90s cds in intermission something is going wrong lol

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might be normal timers actually

forest owl
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it was normal yes

fickle cedar
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Btw why is this not our off piece (been simming a bit)? Both wowhead and maxroll point to head and legs respectively

warm crag
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cause bis lists arent real and they probably threw something together in 5 minutes

pastel oak
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Guess ur capped at haste with bis gear

sand crest
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do crafted weapons not count towards crest discount for upgrades?

pastel oak
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I crafted bracers as first piece, thinking of weapon with ascendance as second. With the improved nerubian on bracer already, am i missing something?

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They should, i know rings did for me last exp

wanton tree
sand crest
warm crag
viral plaza
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Is there any data on what the most popular embelishments are

warm crag
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ideally smth like the crafted equipped weapon + the upgrade menu

fading sky
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Wtf happened to changes to Boomkins

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they are BLASTING now

fickle cedar
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yeah true they are insane at least on ST

fading sky
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raid dmg atm

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its sick

viral plaza
spare steppe
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is your goal to push keys super high or do mythic raiding?

viral plaza
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I do both

spare steppe
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do you key in order to raid or do you push keys for fun

viral plaza
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I probably should prio raidin though

warm crag
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it gives you a strong stick early and it sims best for raid content

spare steppe
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cause thats how i ended up deciding to go with ascendance and doubler, i love keys but its not the reason why i play

viral plaza
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mostly key to raid

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aight makes sense

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cheers

untold trench
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man i know raidbots says 1 thing for top gear but always going mastery feels like crap over getting more haste lol

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fury feels better over 20% haste

viral plaza
torn prairie
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these mountain thane buffs look like anything important for the direction of the best hero spec?

whole wigeon
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can you recraft a weapon with an embellishment?

olive wraith
olive wraith
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You can remove it too if you want

whole wigeon
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awesome thanks

spare steppe
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so that i could use my free enchanted heroic crest on weapon

lean heart
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i did not know about this interaction on ara-kara last boss i just died to this critcake

fading sky
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the wa for the trinket again

median marsh
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is there only 4 keys to do now?

warm crag
shrewd egret
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Hey guys, weapon damage range between an axe and sword make any sense ? or i should look at weapon dps only?

lean heart
warm crag
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king king king

lean nacelle
shrewd egret
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thanks

slim grotto
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does it matter what weapon type we craft?

elder vessel
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whats the name of the embelishment you want for crafted weapon

warm crag
iron leaf
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does anyone know if raidbots/simcraft accounts for the culminating blasphemite gem and extra crit from unique gem colors in your gear?

warm crag
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it does sim it correctly but idk if it properly gems it

iron leaf
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no matter what raidbots just wants me to socket all mast/haste

sand crest
final thistle
warm crag
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it is optimal to run the mainstat gem and all 4 colours afaik

final thistle
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didnt know those options existed, tyty

iron leaf
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alright cool, yeah I was wondering if I should trust the sim numbers over using 4 colors, didnt know this option existed either

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thanks!

clever belfry
#

meow

sullen cloak
#

On the fury 2 set..

Does bloodbath qualify as "bloodthirst"?

warm crag
#

y

sullen cloak
#

cool...hardly ever hit bloodthirst lol

empty mirage
#

waiting to get into a +2 for over an hour is wild work

reef prairie
#

I recieved the trinket Madness of the Betrayer on hero track from the timewalking raid quest reward. Any insight if this will be usable?

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I don't see it on bloodmallet

limpid sand
#

Is shadow-Binding ritual Knife any good for fury?

snow edge
#

You can sim yourself to find out, but it's quite a good stat stick

#

Mastery + Strength is a favourable combo for Fury

compact knot
#

dude my sim is telling me to use double on use and this is a INSANE cook

#

transmitter + skarmorak shard, use transmitter 19 seconds before pull then use skamorak shard on pull so u have both buffs during ur cds

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idk if it clears the buff though when u pull a boss, id assume not because its a trinket?

sullen dove
meager gyro
#

Fire mage is back LETSGOOO

merry vessel
#

any doomers in the chat after playing today

wet sonnet
#

fury booty?

icy torrent
#

How are we using Treacherous Transmitter in our rota? Use CDs after activating the effect?

young swan
merry vessel
#

got our devoker 4 set and he's just so powerful now

#

and treacherous transmitter makes me want to sudoku

magic swift
#

In M+ due to the recent fury tuning should is it now optimal to play mountain thane?

young swan
#

no

warm crag
young swan
#

thank you

silk perch
#

we're not getting a free crest are we 😦

young swan
#

theres a quest for it

#

theres a little spider in dornogal that gives u a questline

silk perch
#

oh there is, i havent seen it yet.. only checked the weekly's

warm crag
open prairie
#

you get one if you did campaign

young swan
#

im taking a break rn

#

need to do some chores

warm crag
#

why are you not streaming on youtube dot com while reading from your 36 page manifesto on why the 3% nerf is the downfall of western civilization?

silk perch
#

is it this one

smoky vale
#

Whats the website to check if something will kill you in m+

young swan
#

not spindle

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diff spider

warm crag
#

found that after One google search

smoky vale
#

yeah thats itt y

young swan
#

send me a screenshot of the map of dornogal and I'll point out where

silk perch
bitter palm
#

u sound surprised

young swan
#

one of those 2 places

#

cant remember whcih

#

theres a tiny baby spider

peak aurora
#

we're throwing authority of the depths on both weapons right?

silk perch
warm crag
peak aurora
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o7 thank you sir

young swan
warm crag
#

its in the left red circle

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to the left of jaina and shit

young swan
#

i turn my brain off for shit like this

silk perch
#

haha

cold horizon
#

nerf time

warm crag
#

a fifth nerf has hit fury

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check wowhead

silk perch
#

`no way

floral frigate
#

that wowhead post

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about ptr

manic pelican
#

I think that’s on ptr

floral frigate
#

is just the hotfixes from live being applied to ptr

silk perch
#

He could also be in City of threads

manic pelican
floral frigate
#

it says it in the headline too I think on the article

silk perch
night cedar
#

Guys the tasks from ‍Treacherous Transmitter is only move to x location right?

warm crag
#

or jump 3x

night cedar
#

oh

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and how can i see if i need jump? xD

warm crag
#

you'll have three crystals hovering over your head

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or you get a weakaura

upbeat pulsar
#

When crafting my weapon i assume all the mats i provide should be quality 3 right

serene vessel
#

you should talk to your crafter

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because it depends on how they set their stuff up

upbeat pulsar
#

I dont got one man

serene vessel
#

oh do not public order ur weapon lmao

upbeat pulsar
#

oh lol

serene vessel
#

spam in trade asking for a crafter

upbeat pulsar
#

i'm new to this crafting system so im still learning the ropes

serene vessel
#

its absolute ass if u dont have a crafter/guild

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thats what u need to learn

supple laurel
#

I just use trade chat

serene vessel
#

u were about to learn it the hard way

supple laurel
#

works out fine - max quality every time

serene vessel
#

yes only do trade chat

#

if you dont hvae a guild/crafter

#

public orders are for things you dont care about the quality of

#

becuase if you try and craft a weapon in public order, there's nothing stopping me from going on my rat alt and filling it at 1 star or whatever

#

then you have to recraft it or be out like 12 ilvls lmao

upbeat pulsar
#

okay, i will look in trade chat for someone then

night cedar
rapid niche
#

frenzied or powerful enrage for bloodbound?

warm crag
cold horizon
#

which one i should use ?

fiery storm
#

So overall how big was the dps nerf? No im not dooming i still love my fury and playing it, just curious cause math is not my thing

velvet obsidian
#

I think it's probably powerful, but I hate how clunky it feels. Haste enrage GOATed.

fiery storm
alpine kiln
#

Has anyone tried double ascendance on PTR?

warm crag
kind hill
#

should both weapons be enchanted with authority of the depths?

alpine kiln
oblique trail
kind hill
#

or secondary goes wit radiant

warm crag
#

i'd assume it'd work but we're using the nerubian doubler wrist anyways to emulate that

oblique trail
warm crag
warm crag
#

powerful is probably better if you're killing the inside adds faster

oblique trail
#

Just like barding does

kind hill
#

it only goes to 3 right?/

oblique trail
kind hill
#

oh right

#

ty

young swan
#

i think in an ideal world powerful is better but frenzied just gives you a lot of consistency with timings thanks to the extra haste

rapid niche
silk perch
#

so would a weap be a solid choice with the 619 crest?

young swan
#

it will end up being wasted, so theres some downside

silk perch
#

bruv that would mean i'd have to do +9's im not a chad

young swan
#

exactly

compact reef
#

is this any good?

young swan
#

if you arent on a position to get those keys done you can either send the crest, or just wait until 9/10s are easier

young swan
silk perch
#

by the time i do 9s i'd probably have gotten good use out of the weap

#

and id move it to offhand then

late whale
#

is this good for fury?

cursive sierra
#

2min cd is meh

#

you want one with 1.5

late whale
thorny shoal
#

idk how or why

late whale
#

shud i use one of these instead? my first trinket is thiis last one

reef bison
#

this feels like a socket right

keen nimbus
#

So the goal this week for vault wise looking at m+ is to get 3 slots filled with +8 loot ?

#

Or am i looking wrong

warm crag
#

ye socket is fine probably

keen nimbus
#

Yeah well

reef bison
keen nimbus
#

Some dungeons feel very spicy

warm crag
#

i mean tier is tier

keen nimbus
#

Even qt 8

warm crag
#

10s are completable

keen nimbus
#

Stonevault..., city of thread....

warm crag
#

except for nw fuck nw

keen nimbus
#

Stonevault due duo boss

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Felt unkillable to me

#

From groups ive had

whole wigeon
#

sacbrood is simming so bad for me, sims is putting my 600 ilevel skyterror with queens mandate but every time ive used skyterror its absolute dogshit

warm crag
#

reasonable for sacbrood to not be your best pick

keen nimbus
#

What is are bis trnket setup? Did it change after the nerf to sacbrood

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Our*

warm crag
#

bis was and still is treacherous mandate probably

frosty orchid
whole wigeon
#

i cba with the shenanigans of treacherous tbh

warm crag
#

realistically you'll want some on use + a high level arakara

keen nimbus
#

Even if you throw m+ in the mix?

warm crag
#

there are no shenanigans its just a 90s on use primary stat trinket

marble spruce
#

what do you call having to jump 3 times before you get the buff?

#

if that’s not shenanigans, idk what is

warm crag
#

its certainly not a problem if you have 15 seconds to find time to jump thrice

fervent yoke
#

where can I find the sim?

night cedar
#

Can delay 15 secs the task?

warm crag
#

you have 15 seconds to complete the task

night cedar
#

Oook

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Good to know

whole wigeon
#

I dunno if skyterror organ is simming so high just from the raw strength on it alone or what but sim really seems to undervalue sacbrood

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as a mythic piece

marble spruce
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no i know, i have the trinket and don’t mind it, but I think shenanigans is the right word

whole wigeon
#

not +mind

#

but still 606 ilevel

warm crag
marble spruce
#

FARVA

#

what’s the name of that place you like with all the goofy shit on the walls?

buoyant salmon
#

prison

whole wigeon
#

like that feels a bit weird

silk perch
#

funny when i do get to the point of crafting something i have to sell my left nut for the resources to make it, what's that.. 120k+ for a weapon? sadge

frosty orchid
#

is use this both and its blastin 😄

ashen quest
#

mountain thane or slayer for m+ now?

frosty orchid
#

SLayer

warm crag
ashen quest
#

is there still that big of a discrepancy between dps

warm crag
#

lmao

silk perch
summer quail
ashen quest
#

thats sad its sm more fun

warm crag
#

play what you want king

marble spruce
#

damn bro you selling your left nut for $20?

silk perch
#

why, you interested?

buoyant salmon
marble spruce
#

let’s make it $30 for both

buoyant salmon
#

i wouldve had egg over skyterror though

silk perch
clever belfry
#

and crafting

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and gemmus

#

(thanks lolxd)

burnt stone
#

Hello brothers
Let me ask you a trivial question.
We apologize for providing pictures in a language you are not familiar with.

626 Which is better to get, the ring or the tier chest?

Currently, I can construct a tier 2 set (defeating the final boss on heroic difficulty + catalyst).

silk perch
#

the clever route as an m+ player that doesnt care about the top 1% is ignoring the game for a few months then logging back in to get geared in m+10's within an evening for the same price I pay now to craft 1 weapon. Then I can start pushing rio casually. But then again im not that clever

summer quail
modern plume
#

is the ST build even worth it in raid or just rock the multi-target raid build?

dusk vault
cunning idol
#

HOw bad is single minded fury? I main prot, but want to get a weapon that helps both.

summer quail
#

about 5% worse single target. more than that in aoe

cunning idol
#

how much in aoe?

summer quail
#

i do not know, but more than single target

cunning idol
#

Alright, ill take that

warm crag
late garden
#

for M+ do you guys use powerful enrage or frenzied enrage? Frenzied FEELS so much better.

clever belfry
#

powerful is however a good bit better in keyd.

olive wraith
#

The burst with powerful makes our aoe a lot better

late garden
#

does anyone play the mountain thane AOE build in keys?

olive wraith
#

I’m sure people do

late garden
#

does it perform under the slayer build?

olive wraith
#

It’s just behind in general compared to slayer

#

Thane st is poop

clever belfry
#

its kinda grief honestly

#

But if you like it just play it

olive wraith
#

For farming 10s I’m sure it’s fine. But the moment you start pushing you’re leaving a lot of prio damage

late garden
#

it "feels" like im doing so much damage as fury slayer, but a lot of other classes are beating me on trash packs. I CAN get top but i literally have ot pop everything in 1 trash pack pull.

olive wraith
#

Our burst is great

late garden
#

same with arms build

warm crag
#

thats kinda the point of fury

late garden
#

ive kinda come to realize that.

olive wraith
#

In pugs it can be weird especially if you don’t know how the tank is pulling

late garden
#

ok, ill just keep a closer eye on cd's then i guess.

woven ravine
#

is it possible to proc this as warrior?

chrome plover
#

do you deal damage?

woven ravine
#

i mean this nature damage

chrome plover
#

it can proc itself i think

woven ravine
#

ahhh

chrome plover
#

weapon enchant too

clever belfry
#

im unsure it's fine.

olive wraith
clever belfry
#

bozo not the timing 10a

restive peak
#

4 10s today ez clap, come @ me

#

World #1 city of threads never forget this day (it will be passed by the time I finish raid)

olive wraith
#

What’s the worst key chat

restive peak
#

Siege and grim

#

Are the hardest

olive wraith
#

Really grim?

chrome plover
#

last boss in both spider dungeons feel super hectic

#

but ive not done much today

warm crag
restive peak
#

Grim is absolutely fuckin brutal once it's fort+tyrann

coarse moon
restive peak
#

We 2 chest'd nw 9, it's really not that bad if you don't waste spears

#

3rd boss fucks though so you want 3 spears

warm crag
clever belfry
restive peak
#

EU cannot keep up confirmed by Anda

clever belfry
#

if NW had count like SL we woulda timed first shot

warm crag
clever belfry
#

but u gotta kill all but 3 mobs in the key

warm crag
#

schmidi 🤝 spongus

restive peak
#

Yeah it's a lot of pulls

steel shadow
#

Weapon crafting is p expensive huh

clever belfry
#

Its just boring man

restive peak
#

I don't like the changes

#

To force us to fight the shit mobs

clever belfry
restive peak
#

How about redesign your shit mobs

warm crag
#

necrotic wake is actually an insult to game design

steel shadow
#

Oh I got the enchant on it too

clever belfry
steel shadow
#

everything was like

#

125k

warm crag
#

like idk what they were thinking on 3rd boss

clever belfry
steel shadow
#

Oh

#

ya fuck that

clever belfry
#

xd

heady saffron
#

the difficulty and enemy life/dmg jump from a 7 to a 10 is wild

clever belfry
#

i had to send r3 on my hc ansurek ring wcyd

restive peak
#

3rd boss NW is basically did you get all 3 spears and save them? Proceed

#

Did you not? Die

restive peak
#

Bro I got the fuckin rash cloak from my TW chest

#

LOL

warm crag
#

idk what they want you to do on 3rd boss

gusty lark
#

should i look for a crafter to craft darkmoon ascension or place order ?

warm crag
#

cause if you play it with the old strat the monstrosities will just ramp to kill you

clever belfry
#

its almost imposs to keep abom alive for insta hook on 2nd

restive peak
#

We run w aug so can

weary ice
#

you love to see it

heady saffron
#

the aboms aoe ramp slaps lol

restive peak
#

Have to wonder if thats why

clever belfry
#

3 shields bro

warm crag
clever belfry
#

yes

#

items can suck balls

fallen olive
#

Put mastery versatility missive on my charged claymore how much did I mess up- worth recrafting now?

clever belfry
#

But shield is rly op there

#

ir u chain 3 thats 18s of 50% dr

warm crag
#

so do u kill the aboms before they get the hook off to hook the boss back down? then its a 10 minute boss fight

clever belfry
#

that's crazy

restive peak
#

We kept 1st abom up at 5%

clever belfry
restive peak
#

As soon as 2nd hook killed it

clever belfry
#

he didn't do shields and could do this on 10

#

i think with shield tech

#

kinda ez tbh

warm crag
#

ya idk im not a minigamer enough to do this shit

restive peak
#

That's also possibly true, but we did 2 chest comfortably, I think tm we do it on 10

#

But we'll use shields for sure

warm crag
#

i just want to play my dps and cc and time keys

clever belfry
#

NW is the worst key this ssn

#

followed by mists

#

skrry

heady saffron
#

theyre all bad

restive peak
#

Siege pretty dogwater

warm crag
#

wdym arbitrary losing in grim batol isnt interesting

#

i love losing dargons!!!

clever belfry
#

siege is inf better than tge dogshit SL ones

#

somehow

#

despite being terribad

warm crag
#

ya siege is fine

#

terrible dungeon but playable

clever belfry
#

Mists is super eaey but shit

restive peak
#

I deeply hate the boss designs there

clever belfry
#

Doesn't help its juiced alliance side

#

raiders doing group wide hook

#

in bfa they only hooked one person (it just one shot u tbf)

frosty orchid
warm crag
#

idk they somehow ran this game for 20+ years and managed to not figure out that some stuff just isnt fun

clever belfry
#

they just shimmer or alter back

restive peak
#

There will be big changes over the next few weeks like always

clever belfry
#

doesn't affect them

restive peak
#

As they accept they fuckin suck at this

warm crag
#

even magicians cant enjoy some of this shit

heady saffron
#

first boss in 10 mists with 700mil hp and the unnavoidable aoe aura hitting for 1mil every second or 2

coarse moon
restive peak
#

Mists and ara kara are the easiest keys

clever belfry
#

mists10 was turbo easy idk

onyx lance
#

is the mark of spelunker supreme bugged for anyone? I just killed queen on HC but I didnt get my token from the achievement

heady saffron
#

my core group is just dogshit i guess

clever belfry
#

Happens

heady saffron
#

check mail

restive peak
warm crag
clever belfry
#

i did kinda play with 2 other mdi players

onyx lance
#

ah

clever belfry
#

So that is a bit unfair i suppose

median dust
#

Anyone got a WA to track the season affix?

onyx lance
#

i feel stupid now tysm

warm crag
#

final boss is still garbage anti fun but its completely fine

glad coyote
#

anybody know what rating you get a omni token from m+ this season?

clever belfry
heady saffron
#

im not saying mists itself is the issue, just saying 9s and 10s are wild compared to DF s3 and 4

clever belfry
#

Green pools still invis

warm crag
#

bro who the fuck thinks that instant damage damage zones in wow in 2024 is acceptable

ebon eagle
#

3rd boss in wake is a mess

clever belfry
#

compared to first week first tier

heady saffron
#

lol

warm crag
#

i died in 0.8 seconds because i edged a green circle perfectly so i took 3 4 million hits in a row

restive peak
#

Keep in mind a 10 this xpac is probably a 13/14

#

Due to tyrann+fort stacking

clever belfry
#

what the fuck even is that

restive peak
#

Ye the dragons are absolutely garbage design and mind boggling

warm crag
#

you cant even reflect the uniquely targeted magical effect from the dragons

#

oh okay

#

the fuck does spellreflect do then

clever belfry
heady saffron
#

im a bit of a bitch / casual, am i safe to expect tuning on tuesday

clever belfry
heady saffron
#

🙏

clever belfry
#

2nd/3rd boss in stone vault are too hard for sure

warm crag
clever belfry
#

like we did it o 11 on <610 avr ilvl

warm crag
#

like you have half a second to react

clever belfry
#

but its NOT good

clever belfry
warm crag
#

doable if you are prepared but theres so much going on

#

idk if this is a schmidi diff but those smallies around the corrupt guys just trucked

clever belfry
#

they do

#

and they make u get rollededed cause shadow amp

#

(not dispellable like throne of the tides)

warm crag
#

he was just dying to the phys thing

alpine quartz
#

where do i find the smf info

clever belfry
#

(cause fuck u)

clever belfry
#

that's it

alpine quartz
#

nothing else really changes? stat priority or anything?

warm crag
#

idk sim it

alpine quartz
#

fck man

#

i forgot which game i was playing

clever belfry
#

what

alpine quartz
#

u can just sim everything here

clever belfry
#

the numbers

warm crag
#

789

haughty basin
#

is it better to do arms on silken court for 2 target cleave

modest condor
#

damn broodtwister is a 10 minute fight

serene vessel
#

u have to be on fuckin point to hit it tho

#

almost reminds me of uldaman lizard boss in that you need to pre-empt it

polar fulcrum
#

How long does it take to level from 1-70?

lofty lodge
#

can anyone help w/my trinkets?

serene vessel
#

so are they gutting frost dk after mythic week?

#

frost dk's pulling 4 mil dps whereas every other class (outside enh shammy) is in the 2 mil range lmao

warm crag
#

how much of that is boss damage

clever belfry
#

fight is made for frost

#

happens

rustic grotto
#

am I the only one who keep finding themselves in defensive stance occasionally with no clue how am I missing something?

serene vessel
#

btu i was told it was made for fury

#

madge

clever belfry
#

theyre also double auged btw

#

The fdks

warm crag
#

are they nerfing fury and arm since they topped 2nd boss!!!

serene vessel
#

im just salty that they nerfed fury w/out adding a buff to meat cleaver

rustic grotto
#

we 100% need to be nerfed like 30% maybe udner firemage

past pivot
#

fire mage???

serene vessel
#

i feel like adding buff to meat cleaver would have been a perfect response to the fury changes on tuesday

#

meat cleaver just feels SO BAD rn

rustic grotto
#

I mean they gave us a blanket damage nerf on top of our aoe

tranquil cradle
#

Buff us pls ty

clever belfry
#

fury is fine

#

Stop dooming

#

bozos

serene vessel
#

no

#

i doom

warm crag
serene vessel
#

i dont care raid

#

i only care m+

clever belfry
#

wcyd

warm crag
#

i need to be 50% ahead of everyone else so i can compete

#

gg

serene vessel
#

raid is just the mini game in wow

warm crag
#

actually playing with good players

serene vessel
#

m+ is the real content

clever belfry
tranquil cradle
#

UNAGUI

warm crag
#

Tundarer beat me in 1 key

#

Then he got 4p and I rolled him in every other one thoughts?

#

Other classes getting 4p is a dps Inc for me?

tranquil cradle
#

Thoughts? We play fury my man

lofty lodge
#

is the simbots accurate enough? i thought skarmorak would be better

warm crag
#

Kill the ads before he can

tranquil cradle
#

It is

warm crag
#

Raidbots is probably correct but you can also gain 500k dps by gaining more ilvl so I wouldn't worry about it too much

covert blaze
#

hi spoingo

warm crag
#

Hello zhai (former r1 ansurek)

lofty lodge
covert blaze
warm crag
#

Wait you have turbo ilvl how is your Sim so low

tranquil cradle
#

Use sac

serene vessel
#

i recommend u sim

covert blaze
#

he has like 0 enchants i think

warm crag
#

Could be aoe spec too

#

Small dent

serene vessel
#

i mean id also be willing to bet he doesnt have raid buffs up

covert blaze
#

oh i didnt even see how low the number was

#

maybe simcraft no updated

serene vessel
#

link ur sim

#

not just a screenshot

warm crag
warm crag
civic radish
#

How much of a dps increase are enchants rn? I've been holding off on buying them while I fill heroic track slots

gilded pawn
#

Buy rank 1 enchants

warm crag
#

You can Sim your character with and without enchants

gilded pawn
#

Those are cheap enough

warm crag
#

R2 enchants might be cheap enough to be worth it for more casual players

tranquil cradle
#

Which enchants would you say are priority?

warm crag
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Idk get them all

past pivot
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all of them

hot mural
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is there a haste point we should reach for?

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like always have *atleast * "this much" haste

warm crag
past pivot