#fury
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Myth BUSTED
no.
its in C+ tier
but thats ontop of the other nerfs to odyns
Reroll while there’s time
I suck and cannot tell whats trolling or legitimate 
Push a mage to 605 while in Maint, Trust
Fr we finna become healers
C++ my mortal enemy
i love c++
Yeh fuck, were only gonna be 10% ahead of everyone else on queen
fuck cpp
3% aint alot really
What we tryna get out of the vault today, 2pc priority?
not 15%
Reroll or you'll be forced to play arms ( a fate worse than death)
i love rust
itll be about 4% worse in ST and 5.2% worse in AOE
fair enough
we'll be fine
The drive to keep going.
Bro, I just want a 3k Mastery Neck
what about scaling? will fury be good later
This is the reason I don't play retail. That is simply too fast to have fun. Arenas need a last about 5 minutes to be fun. There needs to be a back and forth struggle where someone finally wins. This is some monstrosity
we're not even in slow mode!
100% taking a socket regardless of drops.
(i have nothing to do with any of that)
fury will scale throughout the tier dont worry guys
I don’t understand the nerfs tbh it’s not like the warrior tier set isn’t one of the worst if not the worst
hardcore
Fury becomes better later tiers because of more stats
fury will just look like this after nerfs. still gapping everyone
blizzard balance team are fucking stupid they never let a warrior be strong
I love warrior very much but now im leaving
escape guys there is no future for warrior
i told you to stop sharing this!
i just wish they waited till tier logs got posted
The will to go beyond? Plus ultra?
You took away way too much
tier can really swing things
Is that overall parces or top parces
Escape quickly there’s no hope
ok but
Blizzard devs in here ignore Yasuris post
Warrior nerf 3% and I kms
on st
its more like this
But all the ret paladins told me their spec was borderline unplayable, what is that pink bar in your screenshot ?
ansurek 95th
yeah them tier lists trolled pallys
They drop 1 ST gatekeep boss next raid and Im swapping to mage on sight. Rather be a traitor then play arms

Its not the width of the bar that matters
It's how you use it
Ret paladins live in a delusional fantasy land, that’s why they picked their spec
Skill issue?
Tell your enh to press his abilities
impossible
Just what we needed 
the only ppl that play ret seriously have played nothing but ret since wotlk
im so convinced. no one new picks up that spec.
Why would you? There’s nothing appealing about it
no cause that demo picks havoc now
im neither caster nor healer so I have no idea what to take from that statement
my ret pali got a 99 parse on our Ansurek kill
They have one weapon, we have two. Easy choice.
I like ret as an alt. It's so fucking chill to play
Does ret still gain damage when people die? I have no clue if they still do but just that having existed makes me not want to play it
Ima say it, herald of the sun seems fun
They get offhands at 626 being better than mythic 639 weps because of special effects 😄
I thought ret was like second most played melee in dragonflight
Unfortunately
oh lmao wtf
Almost 1% better even
i will say tho, the new button templar pally gets feels real nice to push. big DONK.
I think ret is flat out the most popular spec in the game
there's no cantrip weps for us though right
Maybe less than bm Hunter
It's all ogre
too bad
lol
dead spec
i've played ret since tbc so you're on to something
Reroll while you can
Bloodthirst heals the boss and us now
Where vaults
finally healer warrior, healing with hitting
how do you live with yourself
i cry every night
Personally I’m thinking about writing my local congressman about this nerf
IM SAYIN MAN. the only ret pally i know irl has played that since tbc as well.
understandable
respect the dedication
Honestly, might be a good idea.
This discrimination must end
Tell the congressman to rework arms
Archi is my congressman
That spec doesn’t exist idk what you’re talking about
Oh you mean warriors with one weapon
Yeah L
wowhead is taking a massive dump, I can't open half the pages in the class guide lol
Ofc arms lives rent free in fury players heads
Fancy caster weapon is from delves. gross
If on a boss arms is better, they have to play arms instead of Fury
A fate worse than death
Id roll mage before that happens
I just want to press rampage man
Could just also be like me and enjoy arms too
No we cant
Guys is it safe to craft the embeleshed weap??
Cuz arms gameplay sucks shit
I reject your reality and counter with my own
Less Weapons = Less joy
Rework it, blizzard 😠

I dont know you
satisfying button
We cant count, stacking buffs for Mortal Strike stuff...too much work. Half the fury rotation guide is when to mash Rampaging/Crushing blow
What are you talking about
What is a rotation
You are playing arms wrong
I just press the 1 and then the 2
playing fury perfectly is harder than arms you are cooked
You don’t just send ms now?
We shall overcome
How the tables have turned. Lol
How the turns have tabled
I will just buy a more durable keyboard so i can smash the keys harder to make up the nerf difference, should work 100%. Fury 4 life.
does anyone know if you can get away with running 3 melee in keys this season?
why does it take 3hrs to nerf us
Is it safe to craft the 2 hander with embalish or will it get tuned?
its an hour per percent
Bro is excited to log in for a choice of two rings and a cape
They designed the damn last boss to sync w our cds, not us
It was meant to be, it was destiny.
destiny 2
If you're just pushing title you can get away with anything if you have the hands
they dont wanna see us succeed
no hands sorry
only feet
even tho my ret friend already wooping my ass at same ilvl
Shadow Priest discord would love you
how long is maintenance?
ty for beta testing for me
As long as it takes them
Atleast two fiddy
fine form today good sir.
Time isn’t real and nothing matters
How can mirrors be real if our eyes arent real
gg im gonna 7
Oh seven
Maybe we go seven together
nordbrücke?
I'm guessing the server is under maintenance?
yes its 2024 and they still need to take them offline
20 year old infrastructure fwiw
literally 20 years old game.
I started playing this in 2004... thought it would be a way to save money
you know... instead of partying.
20 years of WoW is probably a lot cheaper than 20 years of partying so you did yourself a solid 👌
i wanna see the serverside code
20 years of neither probably saves a bit more but I haven't tested 😂
yep 20 years old and still cant upgrade to push updates without take a server offline. Gotta keep some Nostalgia right?
chat is this real
another?
this is real
no no no
I heard news of a fifth
So this second nerf we got, we still at the top for aoe aren't we?
If so, get ready for more
no actually warrior is below balance druid now
dont believe it until it's on the Updates channel.
There's an undocumented 5th nerf coming tomorrah
REt? the signs were there all along!
I got an alt ret... ret is nowhere near as fun as fury or even arms
Welp, so what class we swapping to lads?
warriors play warriors.
go prot 😄
Im swapping back to Warlock
none we here for the long haul boo
if you want to be safe always, go mage. Otherwise, just keep going.
did we get nerfed again?
Ret is fun unless its time to ST
naw
yeah fourth nerf just hit
spongie, do be doing a little trollin

Ima stick out the Warrior, I like complaining when I get nerfed
then gear my fury XD
swapping to the best spec in the raid obviously
fury warrior

right in front of my corpsestarch?
play windwalker they cant nerf these hands
MORE nerfs?
yes
I think fury will still be relevant because of burst interval is so short
wtf... man..
Any chance Mountain Thane is better than Slayer now?
first off
No
No man Fury is dead
it will still be relevant because its still insanely strong
no more nerf
yes
fury is dead after this fourth round of nerfs this is outrageous
thats old post from the other day
Ain’t no way that’s the title of a wowhead article
it was literally posted 2 min ago
Lmfao
fury is dead after this fourth round of nerfs this is outrageous
fury is dead after this fourth round of nerfs this is outrageous
u got a bad cache
ctrl+f5
link not a screen shot
if it doesnt work clear cache
Mr president a 4th nerf has hit fury warrior
Oh man a 5th nerf
fury isnt dead
what's the 4th nerf anyways?
Thats what mages would say
I will never emotionally recover from this
mage player spotted
A 6th nerf? What are we gonna do after nerf #7?
besides the 3% and 10/15% aoe nerf
mage is always gonna be top tier.. every expansion and season
guaranteed
that was posted 19 hours ago
clear ur browser data
you're american maybe it hasnt been pushed to the american wowhead yet
ur cache is fucked bro
Yeah idk my site looks diff from yours
brother...
Man
wow.......
It happens when you install windows 11
I have windows 11
works for me on win11
its not that
wait yall get ads on your websites?
must be browser
Gotta download more ram to load in the article
anda stop baiting people!!!!
So how much of a dps increase are our tier sets? They look pretty tragic honestly, like barely much at all
not baiting?
0-4pc gives around 2%
have Helms and legs currently and think thats all im going to get
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1exJeu5eVe4bTmyg3WFx5PTxIWvDLi0j-WW-XWpGoG88/htmlview#
can see them all here. its not great for fury but a lot of them arent very good
Thankyou heaps mate
good thing u get a catalyst and a token
100% written by a BM hunter
time to kermit
Ulria is a known BM main
gotta love nerfing based on logs where no one has tier sets. and then when everyone else gains 10-15% dps over the next 2 resets, we are left in the dirt 🙂
Wait is 4 set even worth it 😂
Surely you'd get more % damage increase from having mastery gear
Yes there is an insane number of classes with 10-15% tiers
me when i definitely have informed myself about the value of tier sets for other classes
Me when reading
Brother youre too old for the internet
log off lil bro
its 10-15% dps inc if you consider ilvl aswell and you are ilvl 560
i wonder how many fury warrs will be brought on the rwf
I have a personalised, stronger, tier set than any other warrior player
Wtf!!!!!
My tier set directly injects data into other peoples' details
Needs to be wearable
is there a list of things I can spell reflect in dungeons?
Otherwise idgaf
Ya there’s a thingy for it
Costs the same as early access
💀
I believe it
yellow name
bought by blizzard
yelow man hack
Warrior nerfs in World of Warcraft often occur when a class performs significantly above others in raid or dungeon metrics, which can lead to balancing adjustments. According to the current Warcraft Logs statistics for Aberrus (Mythic, 95th percentile), Warriors may be performing at a slightly above-average rate compared to other classes, prompting Blizzard to reduce their damage output for balance. Nerfs typically target abilities that overperform, ensuring the class remains competitive without dominating the overall meta.
warriors cucked by blizzard
Ty I needed to hear this.
whats the thingy?
so what do we reroll as?
Prot warrior
DON'T ASK QUESTIONS JUST CONSOOOOOOM
havoc dh, op every tier
Shut up shut up shut up !!!!!!!
Fury Warrior Position:
Looking at the DPS chart in your image, Fury Warrior is performing near the top in terms of overall damage output. Even with these nerfs, Fury is in a good spot. Nerfs are likely intended to bring the spec more in line with others rather than push it into an underperforming tier.
Conclusion:
While the nerfs will slightly reduce your DPS, Fury Warriors are still performing well in the current patch. There's no need to panic or delete your character. Fury is still competitive, and you'll likely continue to enjoy solid damage output, even after these adjustments. If you're passionate about playing Fury Warrior, I'd recommend sticking with it—Blizzard frequently tweaks classes to maintain balance.
swifty prot warrior?
I fcking hate demon hunters
You should
X-axis (Score):
The X-axis measures performance score. Each bar represents a class specialization's overall DPS performance.
The score starts from 10 and goes beyond 100.
Y-axis (Class Specializations):
The Y-axis lists various classes and their respective specializations, from "Fury Warrior" at the top to "Augmentation Evoker" at the bottom.
These are sorted in descending order of average performance.
Bars and Distribution:
Each class specialization has a bar, showing the distribution of their scores.
The centered block in the bar seems to represent the median or average performance score, while the thin lines (whiskers) extending from the bar denote the range of scores, from the lowest to highest performances.
Dots to the right represent high outlier scores, suggesting some players are performing exceptionally well.
Top Performers:
Fury Warrior, Arcane Mage, and Outlaw Rogue seem to dominate the upper tier, as their bars and performance are the highest on the graph.
The wide bars suggest consistent high-end DPS across multiple players.
Middle Performers:
Classes like Retribution Paladin, Windwalker Monk, and Survival Hunter are solid middle-tier performers.
They have slightly lower scores but still perform well relative to others.
Lower Performers:
Specializations like Feral Druid, Fire Mage, Balance Druid, and Augmentation Evoker are at the lower end of the graph.
Their performance scores are much lower, with the average score typically falling around 40–50, as compared to 70–80 for top performers.
Outliers:
Some dots far to the right (around score 90-100) indicate that certain individual players are achieving exceptional performance compared to the norm for their class specialization.
Summary:
Fury Warriors, Arcane Mages, and Outlaw Rogues are currently the top-performing specializations in this raid.
Augmentation Evokers and Balance Druids are struggling, with consistently lower performance.
A few outliers exist in almost all classes, where players are managing to far exceed the average performance.
Impact of the Nerfs:
Bladestorm damage reduced by 10%: Bladestorm is a major AoE ability for Fury, and while this nerf hurts multi-target damage, it's not a massive reduction for overall DPS.
Odyn’s Fury damage reduced by 15%: This is another significant cooldown ability, primarily used during burst phases. A 15% reduction will impact burst damage, but it’s a single ability.
All ability damage reduced by 3%: This affects overall DPS and will reduce your damage slightly across the board.
nooooooo, pls, we need dooming
Western society will fail if the 3% nerf goes through
phone has 100% battery, fine
phone has 97% battery, unusable
need new phone with full battery
No, western society will not fail if the 3% nerf to Fury Warrior goes through! While it might feel like a big deal in the context of World of Warcraft gameplay, such changes are just part of the ongoing balancing adjustments Blizzard makes to ensure a fun and fair experience for players. Outside of the game, the world will keep turning, and society will remain intact, regardless of what happens to Fury Warriors in Azeroth. :)
In the grand scheme of things, this 3% nerf is just a minor tweak to in-game balance and won’t have any real-world impact. Play on and enjoy the game!
But what if blizzard makes me kms
No, western society will not fail if the 3% nerf to Fury Warrior goes through! While it might feel like a big deal in the context of World of Warcraft gameplay, such changes are just part of the ongoing balancing adjustments Blizzard makes to ensure a fun and fair experience for players. Outside of the game, the world will keep turning, and society will remain intact, regardless of what happens to Fury Warriors in Azeroth. 🙂
In the grand scheme of things, this 3% nerf is just a minor tweak to in-game balance and won’t have any real-world impact. Play on and enjoy the game!
skill issue
Fury is too masculine for modern society
What in the fuck is going on
Y tho
The woke liberal homosexual agenda is suppressing our damage numbies
Daily dooming
I doomed so hard and all over the place that i leveld my ret pally to 80
pin that
You’re the first to go under my regime
Here is the visualization reflecting the 3% reduction in Fury Warrior's performance. You can see how the Fury Warrior's bar has shifted slightly lower, and other classes like Arcane Mage and Outlaw Rogue now rank above it.
We will always end up as same spot for M+ right?
Or is there any circumstances change?
Its bigger then u think when al other classes have tier set we will be below on dps somewhere blizz is stupid to nerf now instead of waiting until all have tier set the prblem that warrior is first will solve itself without nerfd needed
Where are these graphs and walls of text from 
No, western society will not fail if the 3% nerf to Fury Warrior goes through! While it might feel like a big deal in the context of World of Warcraft gameplay, such changes are just part of the ongoing balancing adjustments Blizzard makes to ensure a fun and fair experience for players. Outside of the game, the world will keep turning, and society will remain intact, regardless of what happens to Fury Warriors in Azeroth. 🙂
In the grand scheme of things, this 3% nerf is just a minor tweak to in-game balance and won’t have any real-world impact. Play on and enjoy the game!
No, western society will not fail if the 3% nerf to Fury Warrior goes through! While it might feel like a big deal in the context of World of Warcraft gameplay, such changes are just part of the ongoing balancing adjustments Blizzard makes to ensure a fun and fair experience for players. Outside of the game, the world will keep turning, and society will remain intact, regardless of what happens to Fury Warriors in Azeroth. 🙂
In the grand scheme of things, this 3% nerf is just a minor tweak to in-game balance and won’t have any real-world impact. Play on and enjoy the game!
No, western society will not fail if the 3% nerf to Fury Warrior goes through! While it might feel like a big deal in the context of World of Warcraft gameplay, such changes are just part of the ongoing balancing adjustments Blizzard makes to ensure a fun and fair experience for players. Outside of the game, the world will keep turning, and society will remain intact, regardless of what happens to Fury Warriors in Azeroth. 🙂
In the grand scheme of things, this 3% nerf is just a minor tweak to in-game balance and won’t have any real-world impact. Play on and enjoy the game!
Yes the spot where we have to do insane dmg above others cause we have no utility
Well i go gear for arms
on the flip side, there's a 3% better chance our dogshit tier will get tuned
Classic arms player

Go press mortal strike with your SINGULAR SWORD
I have no idea but I'm pumped
Il play arms when top 2 in raid and furry somwhere hanging below
No, western society will not fail if the 3% nerf to Fury Warrior goes through! While it might feel like a big deal in the context of World of Warcraft gameplay, such changes are just part of the ongoing balancing adjustments Blizzard makes to ensure a fun and fair experience for players. Outside of the game, the world will keep turning, and society will remain intact, regardless of what happens to Fury Warriors in Azeroth. 🙂
In the grand scheme of things, this 3% nerf is just a minor tweak to in-game balance and won’t have any real-world impact. Play on and enjoy the game!
No, western society will not fail if the 3% nerf to Fury Warrior goes through! While it might feel like a big deal in the context of World of Warcraft gameplay, such changes are just part of the ongoing balancing adjustments Blizzard makes to ensure a fun and fair experience for players. Outside of the game, the world will keep turning, and society will remain intact, regardless of what happens to Fury Warriors in Azeroth. 🙂
In the grand scheme of things, this 3% nerf is just a minor tweak to in-game balance and won’t have any real-world impact. Play on and enjoy the game!
arms is never the answer
never even heard of this ret before
Could not be me
we dont roll paladins
boomkin > warrior
Soon fire mage will outdps fury if we dont doom harder
bahahaha
yes please
I might be late but
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PLEASE LIKE LIVING BOMB GUYS PLEASE USE IT PLEASE LIVING BOMB IS GOOD
the least they could do while nerfing us into uselessness is let us mog 1hers
to balance it out
who is living bomb
warrriors don't deserve to be top tier
Preach Ace
That’s racially motivated and I’m not ok with that
Sauna time
only time living bomb was good was WoD sadly
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Underdog and under everyone in dps meters
How about you get under the bar and finish this set
Server needs to open up
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it was fantastic in wrath classic 🙂
I can go under the table to finish you off
🎦
sir, this is a wendy's

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Under the IHOP table syrup foot job
sheesh
What the fuck did you just fucking say about my gear, you little n00b? I’ll have you know I am a lvl 90 Undead Arcane Mage, and I’ve won so many PVP matches, and I have done raids on every 10 man heroic dungeon. I also have a fuckton of macros and I have a GS of 10K. You are nothing to me but just a lvl 12 gnome hunter. I will pwn the fuck out of you with Arcane Missiles the likes of which has never been seen before on Azeroth AND Outland, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over raid? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my guild of mages and shamans across The Eastern Kingdoms and your character is being targeted right now so you better prepare for the ownage, n00b. The Arcane Barrage that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your character. You’re fucking pwn'd, n00b. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my secondary talent tree. Not only am I extensively trained in Arcane magic, but I have access to the entire arsenal of Fire magic and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable neckbeard off the face of Azeroth. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re getting debuffed, you goddamnn00b. I will shit Dragon's Breath all over you and you will burn in it. You’re fucking pwn'd.
Damn why do you have head of balance department messages?
i work there
Ban him!
lol... actually, there was a point of time more than half of my guild was blizzard employees.
...I've never played fury warr but I'm absolutely here for the memes and drama 🍿
this discord is fkn weird
you're weird
Lmao Drae
and none of them played warrior
I want 1 xpac where mage is bottom tier
Lol hi bb 🤣
👏🏻So👏🏻👏🏻, let me get 👉🏻👉🏻this👈🏻👈🏻 📏straight📏😡. Just because ⚔️fury⚔️ is kind of 🔥🔥ok🔥🔥 on 1️⃣ONE1️⃣ RAID in the 🌎🌍🌏entire 🎮game👾, that won't even be 🐝relevant in 3 months📆🗓️📅, we get nerfed forever‼️⁉️‼️⁉️? This is 😬shameful😰balancing, literal 🧙🏻♂️🧙🏻♀️🧙🏻♂️🧙🏻♀️mage🧙🏻♀️🧙🏻♂️🧙🏻♀️🧙🏻♂️🧙🏻♀️ mains at Blizz 🌨️spam buffing💪💪💪💪💪 their spec 🎰🎰🎰and spam nerfing 📉📉📉📉📉warriors because they hate 🤬😤😡losing in parses🤓🤓
So how bad were the nerfs?
No, western society will not fail if the 3% nerf to Fury Warrior goes through! While it might feel like a big deal in the context of World of Warcraft gameplay, such changes are just part of the ongoing balancing adjustments Blizzard makes to ensure a fun and fair experience for players. Outside of the game, the world will keep turning, and society will remain intact, regardless of what happens to Fury Warriors in Azeroth.
In the grand scheme of things, this 3% nerf is just a minor tweak to in-game balance and won’t have any real-world impact. Play on and enjoy the game!
The 3rd nerf killed the spec
can we just get rid of these spammers.
it killed the moon colony of human
we're at 4th nerf
SHIT
yeah
we are discussing the nerfs?
Lmao I can't even take this seriously 😂😂😂
3% damage reduction on all abilities
yeha i know that
👏🏻So👏🏻👏🏻, let me get 👉🏻👉🏻this👈🏻👈🏻 📏straight📏😡. Just because ⚔️fury⚔️ is kind of 🔥🔥ok🔥🔥 on 1️⃣ONE1️⃣ RAID in the 🌎🌍🌏entire 🎮game👾, that won't even be 🐝relevant in 3 months📆🗓️📅, we get nerfed forever‼️⁉️‼️⁉️? This is 😬shameful😰balancing, literal 🧙🏻♂️🧙🏻♀️🧙🏻♂️🧙🏻♀️mage🧙🏻♀️🧙🏻♂️🧙🏻♀️🧙🏻♂️🧙🏻♀️ mains at Blizz 🌨️spam buffing💪💪💪💪💪 their spec 🎰🎰🎰and spam nerfing 📉📉📉📉📉warriors because they hate 🤬😤😡losing in parses🤓🤓
i have a dream where we keep unhinged aoe dmg and do twice the dmg of everyone in aoe
I have a dream where Ret paladins don’t exist
there were two more after that


fury worth to play after nerfs or should i reroll onto arms?
I'm only reading 2 nerfs total though or am I missing something
Reroll immediately to rogue
nah bro reroll into mage
Reroll into fury bro
facts is facts my man
Oh damn fire buffs are real there are some specs below them now
lol😂😂😂💅 ok 👌👌 guys 👨 useless 🚫🚫🚫 to talk🗣️ with you 🫵as usual, keep defending🛡️ these nerfs. we still 🗑️garbage🗑️🗑️ in st and 🗑️garbage🗑️ in 🙏real🙏 aoe like m+. good✅ only🙌 for padding🗓️🗓️🗓️🗓️
Those nerfs are because of you all. We didn't doom enough after first nerf so they thought it's fine to nerf even more
yall just want to hard first week and are to blame for this
shoulda sandbagged
We have to make up for lost time
THIS NERF WILL LITERALLY START NUCLEAR WW3
probably
Is Imperfect Ascension Serum any good?
Our new BiS trinket is swapping to enhancement shaman
damn we got hit by a 5th nerf?
Not possible, already play perfect at all times
Oh, uh yeah, s-same
There is nothing I could ever improve, I am the fury god
? what is this based on
hell yeah
based on holy spreadsheet
even when they nerf me, they cant nerf me
where single target
This doesn't have yesterday's nerfs implemented does it
Huh? Trading would mean we getting st buff
Fury never gets to have fun for very long anyway, it's not surprising
we didnt get any buff will
They can take our 3% but they can never take our 
huh am i trippin
who cares about single target only 2 fights in raid are pure ST and they arent even important fights
we losing 3% in aoe and in st
last updates
why the fuck does blizz hate us
God I love overreacting
They actually just hate you
I love getting MAD DUDE IT FEELS GREAT
sounds accurate
Why would be be mad? We got an aura nerf, not more profile adjustments
its joever
i mean idk, mountain thane got a buff
cya s4 when we're good again
I found freedom. Losing all hope was freedom.
mountain thane still 15% behind slayer in st even with the buff
You don’t understand, we just got the 22nd 40% nerf
It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything
bro got the 5 part jif
And mountain thane still gets hit with the aura nerf 🤣
xd
Me performing ritualistic dance so we get nerfed even more with hope if we bottom of dps meter we will get more utility from blizz
Well, to be fair, if they didnt - we would just swap to burst in Thane
i feel like alot of our nerfs are purely from the pvp community
Nice meme
With how far behind it is? 🤔 sounds like trolling tbh
These nerfs are 100% raid and only raid related
rip fury pvp
no these nerfs are 100% because of mages fuck them all
Thane burst is not that far behind, they actually do better not falling off - they just lack pure ST. But we aint getting nerfed cause ST
👏🏻So👏🏻👏🏻, let me get 👉🏻👉🏻this👈🏻👈🏻 📏straight📏😡. Just because ⚔️fury⚔️ is kind of 🔥🔥ok🔥🔥 on 1️⃣ONE1️⃣ RAID in the 🌎🌍🌏entire 🎮game👾, that won't even be 🐝relevant in 3 months📆🗓️📅, we get nerfed forever‼️⁉️‼️⁉️? This is 😬shameful😰balancing, literal 🧙🏻♂️🧙🏻♀️🧙🏻♂️🧙🏻♀️mage🧙🏻♀️🧙🏻♂️🧙🏻♀️🧙🏻♂️🧙🏻♀️ mains at Blizz 🌨️spam buffing💪💪💪💪💪 their spec 🎰🎰🎰and spam nerfing 📉📉📉📉📉warriors because they hate 🤬😤😡losing in parses🤓🤓
You're not your class. You're not how much dps you have on the meters. You're not the ilvl you have equipped You're not the contents of nerf articles. You're not your fucking parses. You're the all-raging, all-looting fury warrior of the world.
Wrong
-who has to set his loot spec as arms because single minded fury fucks the loot pool
Im garms-retired
warcraftlogs is dead

I am the shitbucket under my chair
I would cope with nerf If I could steal every mage item from raid
⚠️
garrosh was right, we should've deleted ourselves like him in shadowlands
spoilers
fuck thrall
half the game hasnt played shadowlands
thrall is a fake lol
They kill jesus in the bible
That’s still half too many that have
what is shadowlands?
muh horde
we're not crafting 619 weap tomorrow right? we wait till gilded for 630+?
might make for a good expansion if they ever make Shadowlands
if i want a 2h as fury i should set my lootspec to arms right?
yes
yes sir
okt y
All I want for the 20th Anniversary Patch is for them to buff Single-Minded Fury
where is your profile picture from plz
if they truly want it to be like Classic
i actually have the perfect mog for s2 set
berserk
finally some gear to go with my mage tower artifact
thx
you can craft a 619 if you get an enchanted harbinger runed crest but DONT use any of your runed crests to craft
there's a quest on the beta that seems to give an enchanted harbinger rune crest or high enough rep
im just waiting for 630 save you the most time resource wise
My brother
Kill Queen Ansurek. A level 78 Quest (Raid). Rewards Enchanted Runed Harbinger Crest and Void-Touched Valorstone. Added in World of Warcraft: The War Within.
finally got that big slime boss after 38 tries 😄 so happy got hands also
schnoz ✊
"Hah! Do you remember nothing of honor? Of glory on a battlefield? You, who would parley with the humans, who allowed warlocks to practice their dark magics right under our feet? You are weak.
Hahaha... fool! My dark shaman have twisted and tortured the elements for miles around! They cannot hear you now. Once again you prove too weak and ...
this raid feels easy as fuck compared to the last few raids weve had
tho i havent touched heroic yet guilds going in this week
yo did warcraft logs crash?
#WorldOfWarcraft #DNSO #GamingInSymphony
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Ive been seeing Pugs full clear...Pretty easy compared
Why are people dooming our overall ~4% nerf in aoe?
the pug I joined yest were complete ass at princess
oof princess is fun tho
another day of m0 still havent replaced the hc sacbrood or shard ..>
court and princess are my two fav
I hated Broodtwister
yeah it's fun but you know how many times mfer would stand in melee with the shadow step on them
I like all the bosses cept Rashanannnaaradhusdhl
^
broodtwister was actually cake one shotted it with a pug
the random pools of fuck you poison
Those fucking spiders can go fuck themselves and their invisible nameplates and threat resets
its a step up tho for sure
Also oneshot but hate the spiders
is fury still ok after the nerfs?
Yes
i imagine mythic is gonna be the heartbreakers
were 4% worse
No
i dont remember anything from the normal raid it was so easy
No, reroll
1% worse with 4 set lol
ah lets reroll then
LMAO
xd
Play today tomorrow its over
peak commedy
i hope all of you get shit vaults
ty
you can dm your complaints to me tomorrow
its not additive, with 4p its a ~2.7% nerf st relatively
no you
watch me get a 616 wep
CompetitiveWoW reddit is peak comedy though
D:
you will get 2 trinkets and bracer
i've bis trinkets i hope i don't get any 
Probably 9 cloaks
Abyssal bubble. All 9 vault slots somehow
me too... didnt eventhink of tht!
what if i got the ring tho
honestly anyone with 1 piece already would be
fuck yall ❤️
where did u get that quest?
game
crazy lol
guys honest question about dark viscera on the hc princess fight
i bet tkaktath will be up
is melee supposed to do anything special when that shit expires
or do people without dark viscera just dodge
👏🏻So👏🏻👏🏻, let me get 👉🏻👉🏻this👈🏻👈🏻 📏straight📏😡. Just because ⚔️fury⚔️ is kind of 🔥🔥ok🔥🔥 on 1️⃣ONE1️⃣ RAID in the 🌎🌍🌏entire 🎮game👾, that won't even be 🐝relevant in 3 months📆🗓️📅, we get nerfed forever‼️⁉️‼️⁉️? This is 😬shameful😰balancing, literal 🧙🏻♂️🧙🏻♀️🧙🏻♂️🧙🏻♀️mage🧙🏻♀️🧙🏻♂️🧙🏻♀️🧙🏻♂️🧙🏻♀️ mains at Blizz 🌨️spam buffing💪💪💪💪💪 their spec 🎰🎰🎰and spam nerfing 📉📉📉📉📉warriors because they hate 🤬😤😡losing in parses🤓🤓
yk the orbs that shoot out from players
anyone else like to go into the arms channel and just talk about creed?
so if you have it on you, jump out
im waiting for the people to chastise those who went ham on heroic week and ruined the sandbag effort to keep fury OP
its okay you will just get that one random holy dk that has god parses on every fight and tops charts
idk why but its always an unholy dk that be doing that shit
shame on you all
yo real talk, where do you pick up the To Kill a Queen quest? is it just in dornogal somewhere
I think fury will still be alright (hopefully)
or is it a raid quest
if you're aimed with any spells from the boss you'll get them so you can always get out before and have a whole lot of time
We are all gonna make it boys
thank you dingdong man 2024
fury will always be op on raid, so long as all the add waves are exactly 45 seconds apart on all the add fights, just tell your sub rogues and dev evokers to chill
were gonna make it brahs
i mean i really wonder what a full bis sim looks like compared to other classes.
so the 9 seconds it takes for it to expire and then spew orbs, do we hop back on boss and dps then get back out or just stay out then go back in after the orbs go off
i personally go back in to heal a bit with victory rush and bloodthirst then i get out
no we are not
you gotta be careful you not aim at melee with them when you get out
you are all gonna die
k figured, had an argument with someone that said for melee to just sit out and wait the 9 seconds
well it's the easier way if ppl are a bit dumb
It’s jover
The truth of the void
yeah thats fair
None of us are strong
we personnally forced some ppl to stay out since they always greeded too much
HOLD ME NOWWW
ill never understand how anything less then a tier gets nerfed,
What
Because fuck brown class
Simple as
racist
Your mistake there is tier list
Evil brown man take glaive priority
Ikr, brown class needs more buffs
👏🏻So👏🏻👏🏻, let me get 👉🏻👉🏻this👈🏻👈🏻 📏straight📏😡. Just because ⚔️fury⚔️ is kind of 🔥🔥ok🔥🔥 on 1️⃣ONE1️⃣ RAID in the 🌎🌍🌏entire 🎮game👾, that won't even be 🐝relevant in 3 months📆🗓️📅, we get nerfed forever‼️⁉️‼️⁉️? This is 😬shameful😰balancing, literal 🧙🏻♂️🧙🏻♀️🧙🏻♂️🧙🏻♀️mage🧙🏻♀️🧙🏻♂️🧙🏻♀️🧙🏻♂️🧙🏻♀️ mains at Blizz 🌨️spam buffing💪💪💪💪💪 their spec 🎰🎰🎰and spam nerfing 📉📉📉📉📉warriors because they hate 🤬😤😡losing in parses🤓🤓
looks like i just might have to go psuedo fury and play dh
💯
黄色忍者 Yellow Ninja 申请摧毁盔甲 Apply Destroy the armor 中等伤害 Moderate damage 获得战刃优先 brown evil man still take warblade priority
rate my drip
I woke up feeling 3% weaker
0/10 you a human
we gots a channel for that
garrosh disapproves
gotta get bigger weapons
That's fucked lol, there's so much time charge back and hit the boss then step out for 2 seconds
bro tryna be asmongold
no tauren or ork? gtfo
So let me get this straight. Just because fury is kind of ok on ONE RAID in the entire game, that won't even be relevant in 3 months, we get nerfed forever? This is shameful balancing, literal mage mains at Blizz spam buffing their spec and spam nerfing warriors because they hate losing in parses
@oblique trail
ANDAYAYA
Include the emojis you coward
it's like the person wanted to hit enrage
Hoof job
Excuse me
it's okay though, we never even made it to enrage, people kept dying too quickly
Did I stutter
guys i got a question
why we get no crit for warrior? is it that bad?
all my sims want me to get more crit
crits fine. all stats are pretty close to each other
because you have so little...
so i dunno if your warrior is different from my warrior
My eyes did reading it
Crit isn’t haste and isn’t mastery and that’s kind of the problem
haste and mastery are generally slightly better but crit and vers are right behind them
i know, i have too much hate mast
haste*
I wanna sniff on critcakes armpits
okay but why crit is even worse than versa?
La-di-dah, I got all my proper stats first try :p
i checked wowhead
So do I. I'm at like 17k haste or something dumb
i'm so overcapped in haste that i've to remove frenzied enrage even in st 
Those are rules of thumb, sim your character for the most accurate results
Its a priority system, but it's all in balance. If you have NONE of crit, balance will suggest you get SOME
rule of thumb: sim it
how to?

and an addon

never used it before lol
it's not too hard, there's probably a video you can watch on it
get simulation craft addon
or a wowhead guide
download the simcraft addon then type /simc in game
What time is reset? I
🤓
guys will there be another pvp quest this week for heraldry tokens?
Download the 'simulationcraft' addon, then in game type /simc and copy the output, then paste that into https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/topgear
thanks ❤️
In theory, NA is back up in half an hour
Ty
Yo ty big man and only you
I got you bud

skill issue
anyone know how to make mana oil not be annoying to apply? if i just use it twice sometimes it'll apply one to each wep but sometimes it just does 2x on mh
why use rampage before Bladestorm?
anyone know if this is a weekly or a 1 time? https://www.wowhead.com/quest=83489/gathering-all-gladiators
Deliver the advertisement to Hotharn at the Contender's Gate in Dornogol. A level 80 Dornogal Quest. Rewards Forged Gladiator's Heraldry. Always up to date.
Friends - is fury over? 3% nerf - should I pick a new main 😦
I use one, then battle shout and augment rune, then use the other
to dump rage? 😄
You're doomed. The rest of us are fine, but you specifically are doomed
im not rich so no augments but will try this in future ty
Yeah uninstall
Oh god I knew it - skill issue imbad.
For what?
LOL
1 like and I'll uninstall.
I'm using the DF s3 augment rune
that 86 strength is YUGE
what do you select on simulation options below?
rage is damage
lol thats funny
blade storm generate rage tho
so you rampage BS Rampage
Hi guys, I want to start playing fury again, how does it feel the lack of utility on m+? does it affect much?
You would only rampage again after if you aren’t enraged
and the 4 people standing there are aug vokers rouges and locks
👏🏻So👏🏻👏🏻, let me get 👉🏻👉🏻this👈🏻👈🏻 📏straight📏😡. Just because ⚔️fury⚔️ is kind of 🔥🔥ok🔥🔥 on 1️⃣ONE1️⃣ RAID in the 🌎🌍🌏entire 🎮game👾, that won't even be 🐝relevant in 3 months📆🗓️📅, we get nerfed forever‼️⁉️‼️⁉️? This is 😬shameful😰balancing, literal 🧙🏻♂️🧙🏻♀️🧙🏻♂️🧙🏻♀️mage🧙🏻♀️🧙🏻♂️🧙🏻♀️🧙🏻♂️🧙🏻♀️ mains at Blizz 🌨️spam buffing💪💪💪💪💪 their spec 🎰🎰🎰and spam nerfing 📉📉📉📉📉warriors because they hate 🤬😤😡losing in parses🤓🤓
The defaults for the most part, but use "latest" for simc version
That's factually wrong though
Rampage BS CB reset RB Rampage
you arent enraged porbably in blade storm duration your enrage wil get off?
Unhinged sends BB plus enrage
Never lost enrage due to bladestorm, also remember you bloodthirsty during the duration
You send ramp before it for the bloodbath guys
cb?
Crushing blow
There's a small chance you drop enrage during BS if you're unlucky with your BT hits refreshing enrage, in which case you'd rampage again after BS, but otherwise you'd ramp > BS > CB > ramp
And actually it would prefer go ramp > bs > cb > ramp > cb
imagine being 20 mins away from getting nothing at the vault
Rb from reset is better than rampage though if you're enraged
EZ socket
ahh so which means rampage isnt the main source of damage?
Not if you're rage capped from your BS + CB
Read the wowhead guide maybe
It's our spender, but it's mostly use to keep enrage
I don’t understand what you write, I use Google.translate and it doesn’t understand either
Even if you're rage capped
idk but im spamming m+ till im blue in the face today
And apply ra
That is just factually wrong bud
It ain't bud
What is BS?
Bladestorm
blade storm
the reset buff would go to cb then which is even better
im not you bud PAL!
can overcap with cb but you shouldnt with rb
This
Do you know how to read or you just living your class fantasy? Read the line bellow
so does crushing blow hit harder that bloodbath?
Lol wat
Yes
in ST you favor CB, in cleave favor BB
Let me zoom in a little for you there bud
Do you know how APLs work
makes sense since in aoe id be fishing for reap the storm right?
yup
I mean you're really dumb aren't you, guess what =< means
I'll spell it
(rage cap is 130)
Equal or less than 100%
That's flat rage not %, and also you're going to be capped on rage after BS + CB literally every time
so is there a haste soft cap?
There is no situation where you would BS > CB > RB
imagine having uncapped rage and the more rage you had the more damage you do/take
No. Just sim
For now ilvl will probably beat anything you have
got you
I still don’t understand why use rampage before Bladestorm?
Real
Maintenance extended its joever.
Spend rage/enrage/ proc ra
why would you not
Did sim few gear without haste mastery 603 against gear 593 with mastery haste, the 593 was better so not so right
- To give you a bloodbath charge that your unhinged will use
- To refresh enrage during the duration of your bladestorm
- Bladestorm will cap your rage, so you want to ramp first to not waste all that rage
anyone trying out single minded?
It's about 5% worse in sims #fury message
That’s for you. Everyone will be different. Plus I said probably
capping rage isnt that much of an issue though is it
just 5%? thats not too bad
like during opener ur capped on rage a lot and dont prio rampage
It not really. But if you can spend rage before bs it’s better
do we craft 619 weap tomorrow, or just wait for 636?
That's why i said not so right, it doesn't beat it in multiple situations. Sims will tell it
Depends on context, but yeah. Even if you didn't care about overcapping rage though the other two reasons will still make you want to ramp
Brother. I said sim first
Maintenance extended 😴
Yeah i just wanted him to understand he shouldn't trust the ilvl
😴
Literally my first thing was sim
damn they extended lockout
There are times you dont care about overcapping just because there are buttons that are better than rampage right now (cringe) but you dont want to just do it for fun
So with the new nerfs is fury gunna be better with mountain thane or is slayer still coming out on top?
Slayer still better
thank the lord
so if you click "Odyn's Fury" after "Bladestorm" enrage and update like that
MAKE RAMPAGE GREAT AGAIN
real ?
Bring back anni
changed to 11 AM PST
yes
on message
What lockout what server what is down
oh my lanta
I like the gameplay around crushing blow, don't you ?
Single target with spear is this good ?
no i like rampage
It's all about feeling after all
I dont like playing with spear roar is better
rampage feels better than CB
For u I don't doubt !
i miss s2 dflight fury
Not sure what you mean, this is what you'd do in AoE with Odyn's and Titan's Torment though
was so fun
maintenance extended why. just lemme open my vault
im supposed to throw storm hammer in my BS?
im doin it
but you can and most of the time it has 0 downside
I mean, it's free damage, but I've literally never done it and probably never will
1k dps i take it
does storm hammer still have that modifer on it htat makes it do 3x damage on unstunnable targets
macro'ing reck ava roar is chefskiss
hasnt had that since like mop no?
Possible, I haven't looked at storm hammer's damage numbers in a while. I just know press x = stun
my storm hammer is f
f is my self heal button, so IV
IV is a ctrl+1 kinda button
5 for me
aintnoway
F is my execute
isnt enhance like really strong rn
maintenance extended an hour gg
Shift f and f is kick
Storm bolt is s for stun.
Yeah it's good
sorry for my gorilla hands and hunter eyes
f is execute stormbolt is ctrl 1
my kick is tilde
2 button keybinds for an ability pressing might be the difference b/w life and death :despair:
i like keeping storm bolt on the middle mouse button w/ mouse over
s is for backpedal
shockwave & kick
C is for all cc
X is execute what are we animals?
execute is 4 for me
Q is execute for me
Q is charge
Q is Reck macro
Execute on R
Charge is mouseover eww
q is rampagw
Q is for Qeroic Leap
based
execute is E
chaRge
for Execute
1 is charge
exeQute
X is for HL
Uh oh, keybinds again
Charge = 1
leap is on mousewheel
w/ mouse over
That
cuz I got the razor naga
is the zug zug
Charge T heroic leap X
Rampage is 3 for me
leap is shift + 4
holy fuck
Shout = V
mods get him
Unironically leap is z
that is wild

