any thoughts on this?
#fury
left trout
clever belfry
bis doesn't exist
warm crag
good trinket
bitter palm
where is that thing even from
clever belfry
delve
warm crag
delves i think
left trout
where is that thing even from
just got it from a delve
warm crag
they got it from a map kingus
bitter palm
i got 17 cloaks 0 maps 4 candle trinkets
clever belfry
delve loot is so cringe
clever belfry
i got 17 cloaks 0 maps 4 candle trinkets
wayne or candlestick
left trout
i got 17 cloaks 0 maps 4 candle trinkets
this is my first non-cloak drop so i feel you
vivid lagoon
any thoughts on this?
That looks good
distant geyser
i got full set of 603 but no maps 😦
clever belfry
play Wayne
warm crag
archi guide says bis offpiece is a haste vers helmet from NW which seems a bit cooked
vivid lagoon
I killed zekvir easy today with bran
clever belfry
whats wayne
candle confidant
it can spawn a candle man called Wayne
he is a real menace
bitter palm
ok idk that one
sullen dove
archi guide says bis offpiece is a haste vers helmet from NW which seems a bit c...
Isn’t the tier helmet already haste verse lol
that’s like giga cooked
warm crag
Isn’t the tier helmet already haste verse lol
idk king i dont think that list is made with serious intent
bis is fake jsut equip items
sullen dove
200 less of 1 stat 200 in the other 
warm crag
even if it says mail
sullen dove
(Change 2 gems)
vivid lagoon
Do you know what is crazy the boe head from raid is hate and mastery
bitter palm
even if it says mail
me when i got trolled on classic
distant geyser
even if it says mail
personally i wear highest armor item even if it is grey
it's bis because we get 10% str from armor
warm crag
equip stamina gem for 0.15% more crit damage
bitter palm
to equip a staff cause it was higher ilvl
vivid lagoon
Haste*
sullen dove
equip stamina gem for 0.15% more crit damage
yes chef
bitter palm
i did not know about swing speed and shit
clever belfry
warm crag
true graph
sullen dove
might be worth later on when we get a ton of stats from gear tbh
warm crag
might be worth later on when we get a ton of stats from gear tbh
in s4 sure
bitter palm
today silly
sullen dove
Yep cocka
warm crag
i was in a coma was fury #1 S tier in s1???
bitter palm
yes
clever belfry
Cant use Wayne
warm crag
omg haters defeated
clever belfry
Waxx or Wayne
odd nacelle
How ya gonna use his government name like that
clever belfry
its no joke
actually good
bitter palm
guys is fury gonna be meta in delves after these nerfs or should i reroll? im planning to do +8 delves but i want to be optimal
broken comet
ucking blizzard nerf again
vivid lagoon
guys is fury gonna be meta in delves after these nerfs or should i reroll? im pl...
Go retool I want to be the only warrior here
Reroll*
sterile stratus
guys is fury gonna be meta in delves after these nerfs or should i reroll? im pl...
Reroll
bitter palm
its no joke
actually good
force people into typing "Yes, I understand fury will be fine after these nerfs" before being able to type in chat. thoughts?
pulsar quest
guys is fury gonna be meta in delves after these nerfs or should i reroll? im pl...
No
Reroll ret
clever belfry
force people into typing "Yes, I understand fury will be fine after these nerfs"...
yes
clever belfry
guys is fury gonna be meta in delves after these nerfs or should i reroll? im pl...
impossible to do
livid spear
Has anyone actually crunched the numbers as to how these nerfs will affect us tomorrow? They seem pretty bad on paper but maybe they're not all that noticable?
bitter palm
no wait fine isnt specific enough
brittle phoenix
Has anyone actually crunched the numbers as to how these nerfs will affect us to...
Yeah fury is dead
bitter palm
Yes, I understand fury will still be king after these nerfs
brittle phoenix
It's over
warm crag
Has anyone actually crunched the numbers as to how these nerfs will affect us to...
fury is dead you will definitely not play 2 fury on every fight in the raid that matters etc F tier spec yadda yadda
sudden tusk
https://www.reddit.com/r/AnimalsBeingDerps/comments/1fi8jlw/excuse_me/ This is me when talking about the 3% nerf
brittle phoenix
W Anda
distant geyser
arms actually blows tbh
warm crag
fuck off with arms
me when i need to watch the tactician animation because opportunist is delayed for some reason
clever belfry
its juet worse df arms man idk
distant geyser
why mortal strike not epic
bitter palm
me when i need to watch the tactician animation because opportunist is delayed f...
wa dev helped me make it instant xd
by making it track tactician instead xdd
clever belfry
3 separate buffs that stack to 2 which make my MS powerful
brittle phoenix
wa dev helped me make it instant xd
Partnering with WA magicians to fix opportunist
clever belfry
by making it track tactician instead xdd
whats lore on tact
warm crag
by making it track tactician instead xdd
how do i do this
warm crag
IMMEDIATELY drop this information so my overpower button instantly glows when tactician procs
bitter palm
watch when op lights up on bars
show icon and start timer
when u press op turn off icon and timer
obsidian falcon
broken comet
fucking blizzard they are fucking stupid
warm crag
preach brother!
bitter palm
preach
warm crag
the nerf shouldve come sooner i agree
livid spear
I think waiting for most people to have 4pc would have been smarter.
bitter palm
just remove fury at this point...
me when my class in full bis sims high middle and kills all adds in the raid in literally 3 globals
and gets nerfed
what??????
clever belfry
me when my class in full bis sims high middle and kills all adds in the raid in...
high middle while losing no dps going aoe no way
bitter palm
high middle while losing no dps going aoe no way
recipe for being f tier in m+ for sure
clever belfry
unplayable
bitter palm
verbal dragon
sooo back to f tier orrr im confused
clever belfry
recipe for being f tier in m+ for sure
F? G tier at best bro
broken comet
are they thinking about m+ or not? fucking stupid
bitter palm
are they thinking about m+ or not? fucking stupid
fury will still be giga good
clever belfry
i will sleep now
meow
warm crag
we must stop this cat from reacting
warm crag
are they thinking about m+ or not? fucking stupid
fury will be good in m+ the season isn't even out yet
bitter palm
it will be S tier for sure
warm crag
practice your shockwave keybind
dense elbow
Ngl, I prefer aura nerfs over more stomping on our profile trying to flatten it.
bitter palm
immortal giga aoe giga burst giga st bshout/rally infinite cc
warm crag
ok rally doesnt belong in there get a grip
warm crag
blud is not invited to the function
press rally to improve effectiveness of impending victory
thoughts?
2 button infinite hp combo
serene vessel
Chat, whats a mind slurp?
clever belfry
rally is very good in keys
stop saying it needs double value like darkness
it doesnt
!!!!
clever belfry
play endurance training to improve effectiveness of impending victory
go MT for big healing
warm crag
idk 10% hp bump that only matters if someone wouldve died is extremely hard to use in m+
serene vessel
play endurance training to improve effectiveness of impending victory
tbh im giga sad we can't use endurance training anymore
clever belfry
idk 10% hp bump that only matters if someone wouldve died is extremely hard to u...
No it rly isn't
with how dmg goes out in keys
warm crag
not the way most ppl use it for sure
warm crag
if ur pushing keys and know the exact damage events that need rallies then sure but most ppl arent dented minigamers
clever belfry
give buffer on multi ticks
event without its rly good
lotta bosses do like 4 pulses or aoe in short succession
warm crag
i think rally should give 40% hp bump, 30% ms increase, 5% dps increase and shockwave as a knockup then it would be fine
clever belfry
rally is immensely powerful for that
serene vessel
if ur pushing keys and know the exact damage events that need rallies then sure ...
i mean if ur doing any sort of content where you need that rally, you better know the damage events going out
serene vessel
maybe they could make it a choice node between that and second wind?
warm crag
i mean that would be ridiculously unfair
clever belfry
and put it to 15% baseline
modest condor
10% would be fine if the cooldown was lower
clever belfry
10% would be fine if the cooldown was lower
its fine stop coping
bitter palm
make it permanent u either have bshout or rally like in classic
warm crag
choice node between that and avatar
Hmm I think this is reasonable
modest condor
mass barrier is stronger and lower cooldown
bitter palm
wtf forwarded
modest condor
also wtf is that
clever belfry
mass barrier is just overturned
serene vessel
the real question is why mass barrier lasts 60 seconds lmao
silk wharf
it was at one point, was just a fort buff.
warm crag
Fuck I should've forwarded some of the messages earlier instead of copy pasting
serene vessel
how do i forward a message
bitter palm
need to be a spoingus male
compact flint
Anyone know what food i should buy from AH to use mostly?
timber moat
hey with the big fury nerf incoming whats everyones thoughts
plucky wedge
So we going to be 5% down damage on reset pretty much?
dense elbow
hey with the big fury nerf incoming whats everyones thoughts
Just glad it is a flat aura buff change
balmy shore
true or real @tidal kindle charging during suck negates suck
silk wharf
Fury still really good at killing lots of things really quickly. Tiny little tuning nerfs like this wont change that.
timber moat
15% odyn fury nerf 10% b;adestorm and now a further 3% ability damage reduction
bitter palm
true or real <@134176953291767808> charging during suck negates suck
before
somber tusk
As i counted my encounters in m+ the gap in damage would be something like 1 mil dps in a dungeon would be now around 880k
Still good enough to top meters
spring fox
Oh cool, we're still dooming
calm quartz
Nexus is such a fun fight
young swan
its rly scary tho
compact flint
Everything Stew good for Fury?
tidal kindle
Just be careful if you do it during the main platform suck
balmy shore
can u link ur bar again
tidal kindle
Cuz you're charging into her
balmy shore
:3
tidal kindle
While being sucked into her
balmy shore
i tried charging and was too close to her oopsie
tidal kindle
@balmy shore
warm crag
Cuz you're charging into her
I think this is powerful technology
somber tusk
But the thing is i was toping in raid dps and i dont know why 😂 it was legit my first raid as a fury
balmy shore
ty
plucky wedge
Wait we don't have to stand in spear anymore?
bitter palm
we dont
somber tusk
Thats maybe the true reason why we got busted
bitter palm
While being sucked into her
hot
somber tusk
she doesnt need to suck me i would do it myself
Ooof
bitter palm
cinema
bitter palm
i will obliterate myself for this message
modest condor
wtf magenta jackie
bitter palm
I just leap/intervened main platform and charged the side add platforms on run-u...
wait can u charge during the suck
tidal kindle
After the suck, yes
To cancel it
Get yoinked > charge => charge momentum cancels suck momentum
tidal kindle
If you get yoinked OFF the platform, you can not charge/leap back on
Like you could w/ sylv or sire
bitter palm
ye so like dathea
lament lagoon
GUYS ARE WE USELESS AGAIN
warm crag
Like you could w/ sylv or sire
@balmy shore u could on sylv? Where?
Idk why Jackie got pinged
tidal kindle
<@80717720873603072> u could on sylv? Where?
Last phase
warm crag
Strays
verbal dragon
so fury or arms now
tidal kindle
Or jump off w/ the darkness aoe > leap on
verbal dragon
i just rerolled to war
bitter palm
so fury or arms now
neither just reroll
warm crag
This is king technology I didn't need to employ
lament lagoon
yes reroll immediately
bitter palm
fury will still be king
balmy shore
Idk why Jackie got pinged
hey
warm crag
Hey Jackie :3
lament lagoon
king of the poo poo heads
timber moat
fury will still be king
really?
storm rune
Fury may not be in the heart of the devs, but it's in the heart of the people
calm quartz
dingdong man
ionic plaza
Dps warrior has brung almost 0 raid and party utility since 2004. The spec deserves to be top 5 no matter what, if its not it just feels bad. really bad. Especially with how much mechanical effort fury takes to play, If im going to intentionally give myself carp tunnel while raiding then i better be TOP DEEPS!!!
i dont think the nerfs will kill it thought fury is fine
though*
modest condor
lmao
warm crag
Is this a bit
timber moat
rallying cry and battleshout wdym
storm rune
Is this a bit
what isnt?
ionic plaza
doesnt count. not big enough. two little things over 20 years is not utility
calm quartz
Warrior is fucking broken guys shut up please. Imagine playing a class that always does insane damage.
Not the mention melee is just a super easy role in the game. Never punished, always broken trinkets. Its just not fair.
Try playing balance druid or resto druid for a change 💀 you would litterally want to find a rope within 4 minutes of gameplay.
3% nerf, just play 3% better who tf cares lmao
timber moat
5% attack power is not enough? bro wdy,
balmy shore
@young swan one of ur healer players told me i could charge ansurek and then i didn't charge bc i was too close and then it got clipped i'm filing a complaint
somber tusk
/cast recklessness /cast Avatar /use Mark of Khardros /cast thunderous roar guys thats the recipe for Nerf
ionic plaza
You can just accept the truth or get mad, those are your options
modest condor
rallying cry doing like 30% max hp for 20 seconds in shadowlands is small i guess
broken comet
<a:chatting:1266019851743399996>
fucking agree with you man
young swan
<@137363315817971712> one of ur healer players told me i could charge ansurek an...
I KNOW LOL HE SENT IT TO ME
warm crag
doesnt count. not big enough. two little things over 20 years is not utility
I don't think there was a single raid where you didn't want to bring a bare minimum of 1 warrior for
modest condor
I KNOW LOL HE SENT IT TO ME
share with the class
warm crag
Most of them 2
tardy axle
Warrior is fucking broken guys shut up please. Imagine playing a class that alwa...
facts; the balance druid in our raid is constantly complaining because hes parsing high relative to other boomies but still like mid tier on the meters
modest condor
I don't think there was a single raid where you didn't want to bring a bare mini...
Chatting uunat
broken comet
blizzard fucked up warrior fucking stupid
bitter palm
preach
warm crag
Chatting uunat
Uunat is not real get 2 grips
modest condor
no that's dk
balmy shore
blizzard fucked up warrior fucking stupid
real
modest condor
we dont have any grips
warm crag
blizzard fucked up warrior fucking stupid
Bro joined to complain and complained for long enough to lose the leaf
bitter palm
we do in sod
warm crag
King dedication
bitter palm
preach
timber moat
time to re roll destro lock
warm crag
U can't rip it is what it is when you're still top tier and probably a 2 of on most bosses
ionic plaza
My point about the carpal tunnel is true, explain to me how playing a class that has to press 500% more globals during a fight and be last on dps due to numbers is fine at all. its not
broken comet
why they always kill warrior? are they thinking m+ or not? fucking stupid
calm quartz
U can't rip it is what it is when you're still top tier and probably a 2 of on m...
Im rippin now
Boom
young swan
My point about the carpal tunnel is true, explain to me how playing a class that...
if u getting carpal tunnel from playing fury its cause u have shit posture or ur overpressing buttons
liekly a combination of both
timber moat
xD
bitter palm
or shit keybinds
young swan
all of the above
warm crag
My point about the carpal tunnel is true, explain to me how playing a class that...
Your apm is not too dissimilar from most other specs yknow
young swan
preexisting condition
bitter palm
true
young swan
like a 20 cpm diff and everyone mashes their buttons
ionic plaza
Its an over exaggeratiion but the logic is the same
modest condor
oh no i have to press 1 button per second instead of 0.9, my fingers are hurting so much
timber moat
so does this mean mountain thane will be good now
young swan
no
timber moat
aw
warm crag
Play what you want king
timber moat
i was arms and geared for fury now stuck as fury, i do like it though fury is mad fun
ionic plaza
Even without any logic about anything at all, warrior still SHOULD be top 3. at least
warm crag
Why
timber moat
Even without any logic about anything at all, warrior still SHOULD be top 3. at ...
so you think we will be fine?
ionic plaza
What do you mean why?
bitter palm
get 3 grips
warm crag
I didn't even see the Elon musk pfp wtf am I arguing with
broken comet
fury is dead already dead find another character if you dont want to suck your finger
warm crag
fury is dead already dead find another character if you dont want to suck your f...
Bro are u oj
Ok
bitter palm
fury is dead already dead find another character if you dont want to suck your f...
good enough welcome back ronin
sage hearth
enhan shaman its pretty strong and they buff
warm crag
Do you need to talk
ionic plaza
So dead. 3% more dead than it was 😢
rustic cape
Rough numbers on the changes? Last I seen it was like .6% or something for the bladestorm and odyns
sage hearth
wtf are they keep nerfing warrior
eager thorn
no its a buff
sick jungle
whats 3% of 1mil dps anyways
eager thorn
30k
sick jungle
like 3k? pfft it's nothing
upbeat blade
enhan shaman its pretty strong and they buff
those changes are definitely not a net buff
exotic glacier
whats 3% of 1mil dps anyways
It’s not even like quantifiable, right? Like barely worth noticing.
bitter palm
7% nerf right
nocturne relic
what if you played what you found fun instead of what's "best"
bitter palm
everyone got shot relax
nocturne relic
🤔
lament lagoon
well total its bout 6%?
exotic glacier
Don’t make me pass the banana in here.
sick jungle
6%? still a very small number
storm rune
roughly 6 yeah
eager thorn
sick jungle
what is that like 6k dps?
bitter palm
its 60 dps
storm rune
90k
bitter palm
actually
ionic plaza
The nerfs are fine and the spec is still good. but they need to stop now and let things settle for a bit
broken comet
are you guys thinking about raid only? dont you think m+? 3% nerf is okay really? are you sure?
sick jungle
yeah dude, 60 dps is nothing
bitter palm
are you guys thinking about raid only? dont you think m+? 3% nerf is okay real...
welcome back ronin
sterile hill
The nerfs are fine and the spec is still good. but they need to stop now and let...
curious if blizzard will do more nerf after seeing the race to world first
bitter palm
are you guys thinking about raid only? dont you think m+? 3% nerf is okay real...
is critcake still 0.25x revvez or did something change
sage hearth
what's the point if all classes do exactly the same damage
warm crag
is critcake still 0.25x revvez or did something change
That's still the going rate afaik
deep copper
Hi, it's Mastery first and Haste second right ?
eager thorn
what's the point if all classes do exactly the same damage
fury gets 2 big weps and other classes dont
storm rune
it is what it is
bitter palm
That's still the going rate afaik
hooly critcake blasting
young swan
what's the point if all classes do exactly the same damage
damage profiles are still different
bitter palm
fury gets 2 big weps and other classes dont
preach
sterile hill
what's the point if all classes do exactly the same damage
Different damage potentials and profiles exceling at different things
warm crag
Well he isn't cause he killed sylvanes 4x later than revvez in ronin time
eager thorn
preach
im a simple man, i play warrior cos i like to hit things and i play fury cos 2 weps > 1 wep
bitter palm
bazed
sage hearth
I want my class to be unbalanced and the strongest 
warm crag
Very reasonable and respectable
bitter palm
Well he isn't cause he killed sylvanes 4x later than revvez in ronin time
is that after vacation math tho
tidal kindle
if u getting carpal tunnel from playing fury its cause u have shit posture or ur...
AHK says huh
bitter palm
it is i think right
warm crag
is that after vacation math tho
Idk didn't delve into ronin time lore
bitter palm
u should
warm crag
No
eager thorn
whats ronin time
warm crag
I could instead add today's pastas to the archives
sharp tusk
so what is arms better now or?
sage hearth
those changes are definitely not a net buff
it was a nerf?
bitter palm
whats ronin time
a system of measuring time invented by ronin. took us weeks to decipher some of his messages cause he used ronin time
sterile hill
so what is arms better now or?
bitter palm
vacation time is one of them
he used it to calculate critcakes skill relative to revvez
sharp tusk
do we have a number yet on how much more?
bitter palm
just sim once its out
sterile hill
do we have a number yet on how much more?
thats Arch from the Updates channel
bitter palm
knowing right now wont change anything
sage hearth
i just saw the patch notes, no way we took another nerf man
yeah bro, press f
summer crater
Good way to get fury benched out of any higher mythic dungeons either way
sage hearth
fuck blizzard
ionic plaza
soy boys at blizz just couldnt handle us fury chads. its an inside job
summer crater
Since we don't really bring anything but damage
bitter palm
Good way to get fury benched out of any higher mythic dungeons either way
obvious bait time to sleep
sharp tusk
im just annoyed because i geared arms, then swapped fury then we just took this fat L
sage hearth
let's protest
sharp tusk
twice
warm crag
Good way to get fury benched out of any higher mythic dungeons either way
This is me when I have quite literally zero idea about what I'm talking about
sage hearth
soy boys at blizz just couldnt handle us fury chads. its an inside job
yup yup, we are so fucking chad and they are woke persons
summer crater
So tell me the reasons to bring a fury warrior in higher mythics
sage hearth
that is the reason
sterile hill
fuck blizzard
welcome to tuning. something is OP it gets a slap.
sharp tusk
fun detected
sage hearth
dense elbow
Just be glad it was an aura nerf
warm crag
So tell me the reasons to bring a fury warrior in higher mythics
Very good cc, good stops, bshout and rally, unkillable
summer crater
Very good cc, good stops, bshout and rally, unkillable
What good cc?
warm crag
Insane damage
summer crater
Compared to what?
warm crag
Shockwave is the best stop in the game?
summer crater
Insane damage
It's not insane in dungeons, it's alright
sterile hill
Like Fury is still gonna be good. Its 100% not the end
upbeat blade
welcome to tuning. something is OP it gets a slap.
not that I care to argue, but this was season 3 of shadowlands
crimson leaf
It's not insane in dungeons, it's alright
Do you even play Warrior?
sage hearth
blizzard leaders wnat to play priests and heal everyone like a puppy
lament lagoon
my brother in ARMS shall we move to the channel above
sage hearth
so they see us smashing and need nerf
summer crater
Do you even play Warrior?
Do you play anything beyond heroic dungeons where mobs die in a second?
warm crag
It's not insane in dungeons, it's alright
Wdym you sacrifice almost no st damage to go full aow which is extremely far ahead rn
crimson leaf
Do you play anything beyond heroic dungeons where mobs die in a second?
Seems like you dont.
warm crag
Literally perfect for m+
young swan
Do you play anything beyond heroic dungeons where mobs die in a second?
they die equally fast in m0, warrior was sick on beta
sterile hill
not that I care to argue, but this was season 3 of shadowlands
Shadowlands was left in the Maw for good reason. It dont exist anymore it cant hurt anyone anymore
young swan
and it'll be sick tomorrow
serene vessel
sage hearth
my brother in ARMS shall we move to the channel above
yes
young swan
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/357465816964530177/1197167910058201160/...
ok man
broken comet
what are you talking about? dont you know other character? warrior have fucking nothing
serene vessel
Lmao
summer crater
Yeah tell yourself that while none of the top teams have dps warriors
buoyant salmon
xan its not even worth it
buoyant salmon
Yeah tell yourself that while none of the top teams have dps warriors
you are bad
mb
toxic
warm crag
Yeah tell yourself that while none of the top teams have dps warriors
Which teams
young swan
Yeah tell yourself that while none of the top teams have dps warriors
oh no fury isnt top 3 dps specs in the game! its complete dogshit!
warm crag
The season is not even out yet
eager thorn
Yeah tell yourself that while none of the top teams have dps warriors
good thing ur not on one of the top teams so it doesnt matter what they do!
buoyant salmon
top teams are known for playing optimal things
young swan
be fucking forreal
buoyant salmon
(they had a mage instead of a second spriest)
summer crater
oh no fury isnt top 3 dps specs in the game! its complete dogshit!
It wasn't close to top 3 in mythic dungeons to begin with
eager thorn
"hey guys these pros arent running this, should me (not a pro) also adhere?"
buoyant salmon
(top teams dont play outside of tgp which are 2 key levels higher than live)
young swan
It wasn't close to top 3 in mythic dungeons to begin with
its top 3 melee and its not close
summer crater
its top 3 melee and its not close
Oh great, caster meta and you get to be a decent melee
granite glade
guys does vicious contempt work with bloodbath as well?
sage hearth
lets go to the shaman discord?
young swan
Oh great, caster meta and you get to be a decent melee
yeah what else is new
buoyant salmon
enhance warrior sin are CLEARLY the best 3 melee dps
warm crag
Why are there infinite m+ experts coming in every 5 minutes saying fury is garbage in m+ in fucking hc week
buoyant salmon
frost is a semi close fourth
young swan
use ur brain for half a second, EVERY meta is gonna be a caster meta
dense elbow
guys does vicious contempt work with bloodbath as well?
Yep
young swan
unless if melee are OUTRAGEOUSLY better
serene vessel
(they had a mage instead of a second spriest)
I actually didn't finish out s4, did they eventually switch to double spriest? I felt like double spriest aug was gonna be bis
bitter palm
what are you talking about? dont you know other character? warrior have fucking...
@warm crag add it
buoyant salmon
idk theres gonna be a very clear melee comp and a clear ranged comp that will be viable
buoyant salmon
I actually didn't finish out s4, did they eventually switch to double spriest? I...
no they didnt
even though it was so obviously better
young swan
idk theres gonna be a very clear melee comp and a clear ranged comp that will be...
ofc
warm crag
<@164800371057754112> add it
DM the good ones to me ill fix it up
buoyant salmon
(but the double dipping!!) (not real) (mage sucked compared to spriest at everything)
bitter palm
fuck im on phone so much effort
sage hearth
i think ill play my detro warlock so
young swan
the ranged comp will prob be the more prominent cause its easier execution
sterile hill
i think ill play my detro warlock so
grats on picking a worser spec
serene vessel
Yeah ironically I was playing the fire mage in s4 and I straight up didn't understand why I was in the group compared to a second priest
broken comet
even in melee composition warrior will lose to assassin and frost fury have nothing look at true
warm crag
i will go over all his messages tomorrow
Get me the one earlier today as well that walled fury for a bit I forgot it's contents
sage hearth
grats on picking a worser spec
bro 🥲
deep copper
Hi, it's Mastery first and Haste second right ?
warm crag
Do none of you fuckers press Shockwave?????
serene vessel
Do none of you fuckers press Shockwave?????
covert void
use ur brain for half a second, EVERY meta is gonna be a caster meta
maybe this is part of the frustration btw. Kind of scuffed that's always the case, no? be nice to change that.
young swan
maybe this is part of the frustration btw. Kind of scuffed that's always the cas...
we're being punished for 3xOutlaw in bfa
summer crater
even in melee composition warrior will lose to assassin and frost fury have not...
Sublety is also better and after these changes unholy will be too
young swan
UH is literally just budget fury
covert void
we're being punished for 3xOutlaw in bfa
a bit before my m+ time 😂 was that a thing? fucking hell.
serene vessel
Bfa also had 3x hunter right? Or was that slands
young swan
Bfa also had 3x hunter right? Or was that slands
yeah it was corruption season MDI meta
covert void
lol as if
young swan
push comp was just fire mage + 2
covert void
I want 3x warrior meta or I'm dooming tbf.
serene vessel
God bring that back, fire is so fun
buoyant salmon
even in melee composition warrior will lose to assassin and frost fury have not...
frost is overrated
cedar geyser
potentially a forky question, but with two identical ilevel 2-handers, how do you decide which is MH?
young swan
potentially a forky question, but with two identical ilevel 2-handers, how do yo...
doesnt matter
cedar geyser
dope
young swan
damage range is cosmetic
buoyant salmon
you really want a warrior and enhance in the group for a melee group
warm crag
potentially a forky question, but with two identical ilevel 2-handers, how do yo...
Flip a coin
buoyant salmon
and vers buff on druid is 3% free damage as well
serene vessel
potentially a forky question, but with two identical ilevel 2-handers, how do yo...
The one that looks cuter
buoyant salmon
so you very likely play bear mw/resto war enhance rogue
cedar geyser
are all 2h 3.6?
sudden lily
Bfa also had 3x hunter right? Or was that slands
BFA started
DH+Outlaw+Mage
In
outlaw Outlaw (class or x3 Outlaw)
In
Fire Fire (Class)
warm crag
Swords in main hand is p good aswell
young swan
so you very likely play bear mw/resto war enhance rogue
isnt aug just turbo broken
for the healer value
buoyant salmon
if youre dying yes
young swan
ic
buoyant salmon
but if youre not dying then aug is useless
buoyant salmon
just depends how they tune keys
serene vessel
I mean you probably go aug just so you can pull bigger, right?
I feel like yhe interrupt changes buff aug stock
bitter palm
but if youre not dying then aug is useless
could go noxiv route of immortal specs no or ig u reach a wall faster
haughty basin
help i cant decide between shadow priest or warrior 😦
dense elbow
Go priest
serene vessel
help i cant decide between shadow priest or warrior 😦
What one is more fun to you
covert void
help i cant decide between shadow priest or warrior 😦
priest, ez.
calm quartz
why would you willingly play SP
bitter palm
spriest is fucking in the gutter lmao
serene vessel
Because probably blizz dev play firemage, Outlaw rogues and shadowpriest
Bro what
haughty basin
What one is more fun to you
spriest flavor and voidweaver were cool but fury unga bunga is fun too
bitter palm
minigame players icant
serene vessel
Have you seen fire mage this tier
tidal kindle
<@137363315817971712> one of ur healer players told me i could charge ansurek an...
How did I know
haughty basin
only thing is in raid i ahve to move 99% of the time so spriest wasnt as enjoyable
sudden lily
Have you seen fire mage this tier
I know but as always he will start to shine in midtier
serene vessel
Fire mage is so despair rn
final slate
Do none of you fuckers press Shockwave?????
Stuns are the most easily DRd cc in the game, especially w/ shamans being so represented. frost having disorient is a boon
sage hearth
bro
sudden lily
I bet on this
tall sandal
only thing is in raid i ahve to move 99% of the time so spriest wasnt as enjoyab...
Just don't move, what's the boss gunna do, kill you?
sage hearth
arcane got killed
haughty basin
Just don't move, what's the boss gunna do, kill you?
fucking true
serene vessel
I know but as always he will start to shine in midtier
Fire doesn't scale with stats, this hasn't been a thing since likr cata
bitter palm
scaling lmao get a grip
covert void
fury warrior should be able to lust.
bitter palm
u scale with aura buffs
broken comet
blizzard balance team are fucking stupid they never let a warrior be strong
I love warrior very much but now im leaving
escape guys there is no future for warrior
bitter palm
like everyone
calm quartz
cyaa
bitter palm
blizzard balance team are fucking stupid they never let a warrior be strong
...
preach
ronin
serene vessel
arcane got killed
And it's still I believe 9% above Fire for ST and 50% for MT lmao
sudden lily
blizzard balance team are fucking stupid they never let a warrior be strong
...
We was cool just in BfA EP, like 5 years ago
dense elbow
blizzard balance team are fucking stupid they never let a warrior be strong
...
How many kek throw away accounts do you have at this point?
bitter palm
arcane got killed
good
serene vessel
How many kek throw away accounts do you have at this point?
At least 3836
tall sandal
So before I get my Warrior up to 80 because playing shadow priest is making me want to commit balance druid, I assume the spec is still fine after the spiked nerf bat?
sage hearth
we hate mages right
bitter palm
How many kek throw away accounts do you have at this point?
it's ronin
dense elbow
Kek
serene vessel
No I love my mage
summer crater
So before I get my Warrior up to 80 because playing shadow priest is making me w...
Decent for raid
sage hearth
we fucking need to smash them
bitter palm
So before I get my Warrior up to 80 because playing shadow priest is making me w...
still king dont listen to others
lament ocean
good thing I saved an arms gear set just incase
buoyant salmon
could go noxiv route of immortal specs no or ig u reach a wall faster
just depends
lament ocean
i knew the fun meter for fury was too good to be true
sage hearth
good thing I saved an arms gear set just incase
i waste all my gold in fury gear
so blizzard
im going to buy gold sorryt
buoyant salmon
fury is still good
bitter palm
bro i cant anymore
lament ocean
fury is still good but arms is better st now
near tide
i dunno why fury getting nerfed out the gates
covert void
So before I get my Warrior up to 80 because playing shadow priest is making me w...
do you like been good or fine? if so you're good and fine.
haughty basin
me and my boy play together and we play fury and arcane wtf
blizard nerfed us specifically
sage hearth
i dunno why fury getting nerfed out the gates
i have said, they dont like chads like us
bitter palm
fury is still good but arms is better st now
was already better
silk wharf
because having a spec so good at burst aoe with the alst boss seemingly being based around it is a bad idea.
abstract flower
me brain v smooth, is st opener reck>charge>rampage>ava+spear>bs?
dense elbow
So before I get my Warrior up to 80 because playing shadow priest is making me w...
The nerfs that hit, won't be what tipped the scales either way. Fury will be good or shit regardless of the change
buoyant salmon
fury is still good but arms is better st now
it already was before the nerfs
near tide
idk why enh is getting buffs
trail tendon
hey guys, atleast its not too late to reroll frost dk 😄
bitter palm
their tier was giant
buoyant salmon
they changes were a bigger nerf than what we gort
sage hearth
idk why enh is getting buffs
yeah bro, wtf
buoyant salmon
got
serene vessel
Peter, the horse is here
calm quartz
gort
eager thorn
gort
haughty basin
gort
sage hearth
enh got buffed right?
buoyant salmon
no
calm quartz
they got 3% aura right? then their tier got gutted
bitter palm
got a big nerf
calm quartz
which equalled out to like an 8% nerf
sage hearth
I didn't understand those numbers
summer quail
enh got buffed right?
nah they got nerfed decently hard
near tide
feral spirits is that much of their dmg?
sage hearth
nah they got nerfed decently hard
good
summer quail
feral spirits is that much of their dmg?
feral spirits is very big yes
covert void
fury channel is like peak discord. change my mind.
sage hearth
every class should be nerfed and us buffed
bitter palm
everyone at the top got shot
bitter palm
true
dense elbow
Well, only 1 more week till they gut OF and BS another 15/10%
serene vessel
Where fire mage buffs
sterile hill
Where fire mage buffs
Fire is get a 6% buff to all ablities and a living bomb buff
haughty basin
once i saw the rankings i knew we'd get fucked, you never ever want to be at the top of the rankings
bitter palm
preach
serene vessel
Fire is get a 6% buff to all ablities and a living bomb buff
Not enough
sage hearth
once i saw the rankings i knew we'd get fucked, you never ever want to be at the...
betther than be an fire mage
covert void
once i saw the rankings i knew we'd get fucked, you never ever want to be at the...
unless you're dh, sp, mage or lock.
sterile hill
Not enough
Oh im my opinion its not the start but they will get more i like fire mage
buoyant salmon
spriest is good
serene vessel
I think even after that buff living bomb still does so little damage you don't take it in multi target
haughty basin
spriest is good unless u like doing damage and being mobille and having an interrupt and being able to do any solo content and not having to cast shadow crash to do aoe damage
haughty basin
voidweaver was cool but its worse than archon and also isnt good for bosses that move
violet thorn
nerfs: we worried or no?
haughty basin
idk that class just feels like shit
haughty basin
nerfs: we worried or no?
we didnt doom enough, ABC always be dooming
buoyant salmon
feeling doesnt care about how strong a class is\
buoyant salmon
we didnt doom enough, ABC always be dooming
shut spruce
we didnt doom enough, ABC always be dooming
otracks for a warrior.
violet thorn
so is anyone actually switching to arms for the one single target fight? rofl
young swan
2
buoyant salmon
im planning to play arms for every boss
not only does arms just do more st, their aoe damage is still great with roar and bladestorm
summer quail
so is anyone actually switching to arms for the one single target fight? rofl
the people that play whatever is best yes they will
young swan
i feel the most likely is just 1 fury, 1 arms
violet thorn
i mean why tho?
young swan
so u dont cannibalize each others damage
violet thorn
i see
young swan
cause like
eager thorn
Being the 2nd fury and not getting padding off is 
eager thorn
2 is good for blood boss imo
buoyant salmon
i think ppl are gonna fall into the bait of saving avatar for adds too
eager thorn
If they’re in diff add groups
eager thorn
Never tried arms never gonna
young swan
the issue is that I REALLY dont wanna play arms in m+
summer quail
i think i might play arms this tier but idk how slarms plays
i heard there's some cursed shit involved but not really looked into it
eager thorn
My issue is learning new playstyle + new bindings
tidal willow
arms is good
I like both
eager thorn
I dont even have an alt cos i just wanna focus on muscle memory for 1 class
tropic helm
Arms feels so clunky to play
buoyant salmon
i disagree
tidal willow
personal preference can make one spec more fun to play
both specs should be good
and one being cleave/ST and one being aoe burst is a nifty dynamic
summer quail
there's some shit where overpower is prio over MS, but iirc that's only when reset with tactician
sullen dove
i disagree
yo do you have space for one of your queens ill pass all loot and am not split alt anchor need aotc for vault/token
🙏 🙇♂️
buoyant salmon
idk yet but if i do ill lyk
serene vessel
chat what is it that makes a scrub daddy so good compared to a regular sponge
needs nerf
buoyant salmon
call him offensive non tos words
sullen dove
dominican bum
dense elbow
You think if we ask kindly enough, fury will get another -3%?
inland nebula
if i got a hero weap and crafted the other one, is it worth using runed crests on the hero weap rn?
young swan
nah
young swan
u get a free enchanted crest from killing ansurek literally tomorrow (NA)
young swan
dunno
sullen dove
but ig its good
to prevent noobers from spending it on weap
nice 619 bracer for the next 3 months
(in 1 week)
burnt stone
3% additional nerf.
It's so disappointing.
Honestly, instantaneous AoE DPS was only strong when there was a CD.
dense elbow
We need another Nerf so we balanced
buoyant salmon
u get a free enchanted crest from killing ansurek literally tomorrow (NA)
do u need campaign done
sullen dove
would assume so
summer quail
3% additional nerf.
It's so disappointing.
Honestly, instantaneous AoE DPS was o...
ye but the raid is basically designed around us. almost every fight our cd allignment is amazing
young swan
do u need campaign done
prob
sullen dove
think it was a requirement for s3 and s2
buoyant salmon
ok i dont wanan do it
prime bane
i'm seeing everyone top leaderboards as fury. meanwhile i am usually like 5th. idk what i am doing wrong
opal spindle
Say good by to fury warrior
sullen dove
i'm seeing everyone top leaderboards as fury. meanwhile i am usually like 5th. i...
try to see when they use their cds and copy them
and if thats not enough maybe take a loot at like comparing casts
burnt stone
In my opinion, if they were going to nerf it because of the instantaneous AoE DPS, wouldn't they have lowered the instantaneous DPS of OF and increased the DoT damage?
sullen dove
tbf i think dot damage of of counts as pretty instantaneous t oo
both of's are done doing damage in 8 seconds
dense elbow
You mean spread OF over 30 sec?
sullen dove
not many things die before that 8 seconds minus like ansurek webs and tiny shitter mobs on some bosses
but yea ig just for those
burnt stone
Now, I think playing with Arms would be better from a raid standpoint.
abstract flower
do you save cooldowns on court for when big guy takes increased damage or just send all at start
sullen dove
uh i think you send a second of and a bladestorm comes off cd for the first one
steel swan
Have the sims been updated with the coming changes?
sullen dove
then psure you'd hold second set of cds for the second dmg increase
at least for first guy
eager thorn
https://www.tiktok.com/@soeler1337/video/7407149073507028256?_r=1&_t=8pmiRRMkHED
This link shows ur irl name btw
sullen dove
2nd guy timing gonna be a lot iffier thats just kinda feelin how it goes
maybe seeing some logs
dense elbow
I just hope and pray we get away doing some m+ with burst
Before that gets flattened
M+ burst is fun
I like fun 
upbeat sentinel
m+ comes out so who cares
Those will also need 18 tuning passes
rose dagger
This link shows ur irl name btw
huh?
eager thorn
When you share TikToks it says whos profile is sharing it
So it shows the name and photo of the profile
covert void
I like fun <:gladge:963970137701109820>
funnily enough just sums it all up really.
vital hatch
Which spec do yall think will be better in M+ after the nerfs?
buoyant salmon
Which spec do yall think will be better in M+ after the nerfs?
hard to say
austere willow
hey. is the nerf big ?
dense elbow
About 3%
earnest pike
3% to all abilities
austere willow
well..that makes arms better?
dense elbow
About 3% better
earnest pike
Maybe, maybe not.
young swan
well..that makes arms better?
arms was always better in ST
dense elbow
Arms will not be better at what fury does, no
fast crest
does bitter immunity work on queen ansurek poisons
earnest pike
Be nice if arms and fury benifited from the same stats so I didn't have to maintain two sets of gear.
young swan
does bitter immunity work on queen ansurek poisons
good question
austere willow
no...i mean for m+
young swan
try it and find out
fast crest
actually untested so far? ill give it a try
young swan
actually untested so far? ill give it a try
the boss was untestable until this week
so
not entirely surprising
fast crest
oh fair
verbal rivet
Wooooo, guess I get to lose a DPS race to a Paladin consistently now.
dense elbow
Paladin got nerfed too, so doubt that
earnest pike
Wooooo, guess I get to lose a DPS race to a Paladin consistently now.
For now, I suspect the changes in aniversary patch will hurt them.
grand crest
1.5-2
verbal rivet
Cool
dense elbow
grand crest
dunno how much the warr nerf is
verbal rivet
3 percent before doing math
fast crest
try it and find out
does not seem to work
earnest pike
I did the math the other day, the blade storm and odyns changes are probs going to delete about 50k dps and now with the 3% it will probs be another 10-20k
young swan
does not seem to work
unsurprising
verbal rivet
Sweet, I’m now in “range to be benched on hard content”
young swan
its atleast 3% xD
less than 3%
dense elbow
Only if ya bad
young swan
excluding the OF/BS nerfs
serene vessel
Sweet, I’m now in “range to be benched on hard content”
u wont be if u can pull ur weight
earnest pike
Sweet, I’m now in “range to be benched on hard content”
Not if you do mechanics and stay alive.
young swan
I did the math the other day, the blade storm and odyns changes are probs going ...
brother, the math has already been done
serene vessel
warrior is not anywhere close to not being brought to raids lmao
young swan
grand crest
@young swan how is it less that 3 fury received 3% aura nerf with 15% nerf to odin and 10 % nerf to bladestorm; that looks like 5-6 to me
young swan
<@137363315817971712> how is it less that 3 fury received 3% aura nerf with 15% ...
3% to aura != 3% damage
serene vessel
because its 3% ability damage nerf, which doesnt take into account embelishments
etc
young swan
because things like trinkets, enchants, auto attacks arent included in the spec aura
serene vessel
the bladestorm and OF nerf added w/ the new 3% nerf is in total like 5% i think
young swan
embellishments too, yeah
dense elbow
Did ya read what he wrote or?
young swan
the bladestorm and OF nerf added w/ the new 3% nerf is in total like 5% i think
where are you getting 5%
clever path
Has anyone used there sparks yet or we still holding?
verbal rivet
warrior is not anywhere close to not being brought to raids lmao
Nah I just have to pray my vault gives me something good or I’m getting outpaced completely. I’m the best war in my guild rn, but our godly tier set bonuses aren’t something to look forward to
sterile hill
young swan
2.2% in aoe specifically
dense elbow
(sustained AoE)
young swan
0.6% in ST
olive wraith
So what you’re saying is fury is dead
serene vessel
Nah I just have to pray my vault gives me something good or I’m getting outpaced...
ur not getting outpaced, and if you are you just gotta get more gooder. Fury is still in a good spot for raid.
plain ember
fury p viable cause it can respec arms
dense elbow
Depends on where you set the bar for being dead, Kala 
olive wraith
Well obviously fury is unplayable now
midnight kite
Fury nerfs just mean the play is you bring TWO fury warriors to kill adds now
sterile hill
fury p viable cause it can respec arms
just change all that heavy mastery to crit then yeah
rancid heron
why are they throwing in a 3% nerf the nerfs that were coming were already fine
dense elbow
To have an impact
young swan
Fury nerfs just mean the play is you bring TWO fury warriors to kill adds now
nah u probably dont play a 2nd fury anymore
prob just gonna be 1 fury/1 arms
dense elbow
First flattened our profile a bit, this was balance tuning
midnight kite
Im partially meming but yeah pre nerfs double fury was likely very strong
and its still probably strong on some fights
verbal rivet
Pretty much cheeses Ansureks entire web mechanic with 1.
verbal dragon
Fury vs arms after nerf whats best for raid
young swan
Fury vs arms after nerf whats best for raid
fury for add fights, arms for ST
verbal dragon
fury for add fights, arms for ST
i wanna stick to one spec
im prob gonna stick to fury since fury is prob better for m+ too
verbal dragon
i just started learnign warrior id rather stick to one class learn it as much as possible then branch out
midnight kite
fury ST likely still looking better then some recent tiers
verbal rivet
Do we even know what the best ST Melee spec is post nerfs?
midnight kite
Our ST is usually like bottom 3 (to be fair slightly sandbagged by AoE fights if we hold CDs)
middle ST is like a godsend
young swan
Do we even know what the best ST Melee spec is post nerfs?
prob rogue, dk, dh
somehting like that
same as before
cursive hound
Frost dk, uh dk is not great ST
midnight kite
how hard does the enhance dog nerf hit, their ST is pretty good and their tier is looking good
young swan
people earlier were saying like 7%ish
midnight kite
7% with the compensation buffs I assume?
young swan
yar
sullen dove
fury for add fights, arms for ST
arms good nuff for st over other specs still?
rather than like an extra idk enh or something
tidal kindle
Arms zuggsecute poggers
sullen dove
idk
static rock
I don't understand the reason behind the 3% nerf, only reason we were doing good in raid is cause of adds, look at boss damage and we're already outpaced by several classes/specs
fiery harbor
i wanna stick to one spec
i get this, but i promise you that the game is way more fun when you realize that you main a class, and not main a spec. if you can get to the point of feeling comfortable with all of your main class's specs, you're gonna ascend to a new level of awesomeness
static rock
i get this, but i promise you that the game is way more fun when you realize tha...
I feel like it comes from a sheer difference in how the specs feel, like isn't arms one of the lowest apm specs rn?
verbal dragon
i get this, but i promise you that the game is way more fun when you realize tha...
yeah i just started playing war so once i get a basis of fury ill learn everything else
young swan
arms good nuff for st over other specs still?
still does hybrid stuff too u know
like it still spins
fiery harbor
I feel like it comes from a sheer difference in how the specs feel, like isn't a...
nah no way. dev evoker for example, which i alt, is wayy slower
sullen dove
bro just said he's a dog
sullen dove
gfurry
tidal kindle
fiery harbor
yeah i just started playing war so once i get a basis of fury ill learn everythi...
fair enough
tidal kindle
Swordish is a fish with no F
near anvil
whats everyones alt?
balmy shore
LMAO
sullen dove
i got the d trust
balmy shore
i don't trust
sullen dove
balmy shore
WHAT DOES F STAND FOR
tidal kindle
WHAT DOES F STAND FOR
fiery harbor
WHAT DOES F STAND FOR
fury
near anvil
was thinking about lock or hunter as an alt and fury as mythic plus main
balmy shore
@ mods
gray anchor
i jsut got fyr alath does anyone know why i dont have the appearence unlocked
summer quail
whats everyones alt?
2nd warrior
fiery harbor
only 2 warriors?
balmy shore
i have a second warrior and a third warrior
near anvil
2nd warrior
seems like warriors just want to play warrior and warrior
sullen dove
look at how cute my second thang is
verbal dragon
😭
sullen dove
are those 1handers?
summer quail
seems like warriors just want to play warrior and warrior
I have a warlock at 80 but not rly played it much
verbal rivet
I respect the SMF alt
verbal rivet
Not unless they make some giga broken 1 handed sword that scales off enrage
sullen dove
maybe
verbal rivet
Bc otherwise….every other dual wielding spec just scales better with 1 h
open prairie
1handers?
near anvil
my basic mog
dense elbow
Gholak on last boss in DoI or whatever it was called, stronger than legendary
fiery harbor
thunderfury comeback?
near anvil
fiery harbor
cant spell thunderfury without fury
open prairie
orc with 2 pixel mog
clever path
silken court heroic painful lol
dense elbow
I liked it, have fun lovedove
sick viper
got pug aotc today
fiery harbor
orc with 2 pixel mog
dense elbow
Hnnngh