fury

[gilded pawn]

But yeah

[radiant plank]

If you look closely its onl during BS channel

[maiden plover]

ahh right thanks for clearing that up

[toxic pebble]

then just craft the weapon without the rune?

[hardy cargo]

to 606 yeah

[toxic pebble]

bet thanks

[hardy cargo]

then next week get enchanted guilded crest and craft it up to 630 something

[lament lagoon]

Friends,, how do we aquire the 610 pvp wep?

[brittle crow]

got hero track weapon from delve

gg

[lament lagoon]

lucky i got a shitty nck from a treasure 😢

[serene moat]

636 right?

[covert blaze]

I wish that was me

[brittle crow]

so far delves have given me 2 hero track rings, hero track boots, hero track wep, and some belts

[covert blaze]

I've gotten like 8 cloaks and 5 rings

[brittle crow]

gg

its ok once my real main is lvl 80 it wont get any gear

[magic sorrel]

Any idea when embellishments will start showing up on warcraftlogs? Curious to see what people are doing.

[leaden wasp]

should we craft a weapon as fury already? even if we get one from chest/raiding, we still need another one, no?

[last nacelle]

Hi fury mate ! On boss when i have Bloodbath Crushing blow rampage and exécut usable what is priority ?

[tardy lark]

they usually dont, so i doubt they will

[covert blaze]

I think they worked correctly during prepatch

Might work in the future

With the API changes

[tardy lark]

oh on per boss logs, not individual ones, yeah they are usually pretty fast about that

if not, it will show up as a ? and you'll have to infer a little bit

[woven bison]

good morning guys 🙂 anyone can update me - as dps warrior, whats the current delve play after all the delve buffs/nerfs, solo+brann healer? or is the group scaling better again?

[winged chasm]

I think 2 or 3 in delves is still better than solo

[dry talon]

Mythic class tuning is coming Tuesday for Mythic week which includes buffing boomkins and nerfing DPS warriors.😀😀

[oblique trail]

oh no

[radiant plank]

anyway

[molten wing]

what will i ever do with my poor 2% dps nerf

[rotund ginkgo]

How dog is pi on us btw?

[solar moss]

!wa

[tardy lark]

mostly just auto attack damage, but i think a disregarded APL thing might actually make it decent

[lost saffron]

Haste good

But haste better on others

[tired brook]

pretty nuts

what is top 3 pi target rn?

[tardy lark]

PI is pretty dog

[molten wing]

i just like seeing the yellow aura around me

[errant vessel]

Anyone else noticed a bug where you don’t get empowered RB/BT after Ramp?

[silk wharf]

I assume that happens when its parried.

[gilded pawn]

No AM+most of our burst isn’t hasted is rough

[errant vessel]

Also I get sudden death on opener before getting 3x MfE

[maiden helm]

any specific set piece you want to get first if you got the set quest from last boss?

[errant vessel]

(Without having sudden death talented)

[tardy lark]

not having casts hasted or pet damage scaling off it kinda makes PI dog in any case

[gilded pawn]

Take your warrior back to the shop

[silk wharf]

Slayer procs sudden death

[glacial leaf]

You need to win 1 battleground (a epic one i think). You will have a quest than give you 9 token for craft. You need to buy one other (175 conquest) to craft a 610 2H weapon

[errant vessel]

Not before you get 3 stacks

[potent thicket]

someone pin this until i get home from work ;-;

I'll forget, memory bad

[lament lagoon]

Awsome thanks, sounds ez pz

[lament lagoon]

Is the qeust given to me after the win or do i pick it up somewhere

[radiant plank]

When you win

you get it

[glacial leaf]

i'm not sure if you will have 175 conquest with just 1 win

[radiant plank]

Theres alot of quests in epic bg's that reward conq

[glacial leaf]

btw, if you pvp a little, you can craft another piece (exemple ring = 3*175 conquest) 610 with the stat you choose

[radiant plank]

ex. ashran

[molten wing]

i'm around 90% sure this happens when your Slayer's Strike gets parried etc

so you have less stacks of marked for execution but you get the SD buff regardless

[potent thicket]

gotta learn pvp smashing buttons

[maiden helm]

I got the "[Web-Wrapped Curio]" from last boss, if I turn it in for the set hands now can I still get them from vault on reset?

[silk wharf]

Can slayers strike proc from charge but not reach the target?

[potent thicket]

could be yes, i'd better save it after vault

[silk wharf]

So you got a strike but no debuff?

[maiden helm]

okey thanks!

[lament lagoon]

thanks gna grind that

little lat but i need the ilvl lol

[wide hamlet]

Hi there. Recently made a warrior alt and was wondering how hard the nerfs will affect the spec?

[vital hatch]

https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/1234949058121171069

[wide hamlet]

I don't know much about the class/spec so reading the patch notes doesn't really help me in that aspect

[lament lagoon]

still stronk

[vital hatch]

yeah

was hoping to get at least 1 week out of release fury in M+ tho

[maiden helm]

I just heard different from other people

[oblique trail]

Hold it till reset

No need to send it now

[vital hatch]

hold fs

[heavy sparrow]

turns out that sodium hydroxide is not good for your hands

[sleek badge]

I just watched the nerf affect in #updates-midnight and it doesn't look like a big nerf, right ? I'm not sure to understand 2.2% MT and 3% in dungeon, is this a lot ?

-3% DPS overall in M+ ?

[chrome plover]

basically yeah

it is not a big nerf

a slap on the wrist some might say

[sleek badge]

I agree but 4P is coming and this is like a natural nerf to warriors

[oblique trail]

You honestly wont notice it

[chrome plover]

that is somewhat true, but most of the overperforming specs got their tier/class nerfed too

maybe some outliers but most are 4-6% and ours is 2%

[velvet obsidian]

Honestly a little weird how they went about it. If I was blizz I would nerf raging/crushing blow a little so that our single target is hit more than just our AoE (last I checked we were top DPS in single target fights). Also would help get our rotation priorities straight. Overcapping rage on purpose feels bad

But blizz gonna blizz

[mighty swan]

This

[sleek badge]

Boomkin +6% overall and +4-5% from the 4P

[mighty swan]

Let us spend rage

[plucky ice]

fury isn't top st

[oblique trail]

We're high on ST fights because we're baseline very strong, but it will even out as people get gear

[chrome plover]

boomkin was absolute trash before this

[plucky ice]

0 fury on top100 sikram hc

st

[radiant plank]

Never saw this coming

[oblique trail]

My 99 on Sikran is at 900k xd

So yeah

Our ST is good right now, but not insane

[plucky ice]

top outlul is over a mil

lmao

[oblique trail]

There are a few warriors in top 200, above 1 mill

[molten wing]

outlaw is gonna get outlawed this reset its ok

[chrome plover]

real

[gilded pawn]

Are you saying we don’t scale

[velvet obsidian]

I could be wrong, coulda been a different fight

[chrome plover]

it is definitely the burst aoe from of/bs that was the problem

shooting up to double the 2nd person on the meters is not right

[harsh latch]

Hey, youve probably been asked this about 9399135313 times, but whats the nerf looking like? is it bad or are we still good. didnt find anything in pined

[chrome plover]

#updates-midnight message

updates are now in this channel

for the war within

(which is in the pin)

[covert blaze]

#fury message indeed

[covert blaze]

flex

[oblique trail]

ok mr. rank 1 haver

not everyone can be you

gotta take my HC wins when I can

[molten wing]

do we know if you can get delve maps from non bountiful delves btw

[chrome plover]

only from the zekvir spawn ambush thing

where he comes in and ruins your day

[molten wing]

so that's why people are farming Tak-Rethan Abyss now i get it

[chrome plover]

actual despair

[covert blaze]

I didn't say anything about me

[velvet obsidian]

I meeaaan... I haven't checked any AoE metrics. We could be a little too nutty. I just want to not overcap on purpose. Nerf raging blow buff rampage.

[covert blaze]

gotta enjoy these 2 days of fame tho

[oblique trail]

it's fine you can blast in mythic too

[chrome plover]

i get that part, but nerfing our single target would be sad

[covert blaze]

Fury not even good in st that take is cooked

[harsh latch]

thats a pretty wild statement

[chrome plover]

but at least we arent boomy

[serene fox]

LOL

[gilded pawn]

Opposite of shadowlands

[chrome plover]

literally

[harsh latch]

get Mastery/haste and then win. also get strength

[chrome plover]

i have a orange log doing less than a grey boomie somehwere

in castle nathria

classic

[lapis eagle]

craft claymore 326 with ascedance next reset

[chrome plover]

would recommend waiting til vault/surprise embellishment tuning and then probably crafting a weapon with your first gilded crests next reset

[lapis eagle]

yes and next craft propably bracers

[chrome plover]

yes

mythic bosses and +9s

you get a few from the delvers bounty maps but that is not reliable

i think it's 3 per

[native saffron]

How many crests per timed key?

[inland beacon]

ty

[lament lagoon]

Hey, how do i craft it? i won the bg and have 125 conquest

[harsh latch]

damn i thought i did well here. only 86 log. its on Nexus-princess and it died after 6:32. dont know if this is good or not.

[chrome plover]

turn in your quest in dornagal for 9x token thingies, buy 1 extra one from the vendor

then make a crafting order for algari competitors greatsword, put in those tokens and a missive

and it will be 610

at max rank

[lament lagoon]

Awsome thanks

[covert blaze]

Not bad for no monk

or shaman

[harsh latch]

the kill time to tho

6 and a half minutes

[oblique trail]

6:30 is good for warrior

It's right after your CDs finished

[tribal flint]

maybe 90 parse with shaman and monk

[harsh latch]

That would have been hot ngl. as a person who doesnt do well in raid usually.

[still laurel]

how much of a nerf on ST and MT those new changes are

[covert blaze]

#updates-midnight

[harsh latch]

0.6% ST i believe

aka not notacable imo

[floral olive]

You need just a bit

[harsh latch]

2 mins tho, i could also do that

[still laurel]

3% in m+

jesus christ ... nerfed to the ground

ggs

[harsh latch]

i held 1.2m for 3 minutes

[still laurel]

thanks tho

[harsh latch]

💀

it aint that deep bro xd

[soft viper]

rip fury

[molten wing]

rip fury anyone who rerolled

go back to the previous class

smh actual dead spec

worse than boomy atm

[harsh latch]

yea just gona delete my warrior

move to fiji and get a new identity

[covert blaze]

m+ 💀

[molten wing]

can't wait for Delves+ ngl

[still vapor]

i guess we have to cook without Odyns fury

[thick fossil]

Isn't delves just M+ without a timer?

[soft viper]

same

[native saffron]

Just to understand correctly, even tho its just after cds are up, its still better for a short fight right? Due to lust and everyone popping cds at start. Or?

[covert blaze]

Yes

It's especially bad when a kill timer is right before your cds

On a long kill timer

[native saffron]

Yeah ok cool

[thick fossil]

I don't think we need 20-30 min raid bosses anymore.

[native saffron]

Im currently in a more casual guild with friends and damn our kill timers are long with half raid grey parsing.

Having hard time getting semi decent logs myself

[thick fossil]

Play casual, enjoy it with friends.

Anything else will cause quicker burnout

[covert blaze]

As long as you're having fun playing and improving

[split elk]

what % haste is optimal please?

[covert blaze]

It's also prog so things will get better

[thick fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/sim-simyoself-gif-20048910

[covert blaze]

You gotta sim yourself

[native saffron]

Saving this thank you

[thick fossil]

Lol

It's been in here for years.

[native saffron]

Yeah i can imagine

[vast night]

apart from what the sims say, how good is this? THe +30 sec cd is surely not good, but how worse is than the skarmorak shard if they are on the same ilvl

[golden hare]

why not trust the sim?

are you getting unexpected results?

[vast night]

its a 5 digit difference, which seems unrelatable considering 1m+ dps

but playing around 2m cd trinket would be awkward, like using it every 3rd burst and keeping it up for a minute+

[jolly mist]

well then sim the diff between this and the ither trinkrt in st

if this cimes out on top there

then its worth

[sage hearth]

is the nerf to impactful?

[molten wing]

around 2-3% so basically nothing

[jolly mist]

^

[molten wing]

i wish this was also 1.5m and not a 2m trinket but eh

[sage hearth]

niice, cause we are very strong rn

[golden hare]

i'd prefer the 1.5min one for sure, unless the difference is kinda big (please use %s and not raw numbers i am very stupid)

does it hold for cds in sims? or on cd

[covert blaze]

[vast night]

i'll check more in details later

[golden hare]

:zhai:

[vast night]

was just curious if somebody tried with both and have opinion on how it feels

[tardy lark]

https://imgur.com/a/7KsyCKl

new one

[covert blaze]

one day

[tidal heron]

That's a 1.5s channel, not fun

[golden hare]

:prayge:

[molten wing]

yeah its a channel and a 2m trinket pretty pepega

but they are doing an itemization update for Delve items next week so i'll keep it until then

[tidal heron]

Fair

[molten wing]

maybe they fix it / buff it same for other delve loot

[thick fossil]

Higher resolution, I approve!

[lament hinge]

maybe im just stupid but the class design doesnt feel that good tbh, either you have too much rage(during cds) or too little outside cds and the damage goes the same way, if you dont have cds you hit like a wet noodle.

[tardy lark]

i love the "Stat weights? Never. Delete Pawn"

[deep ember]

Is the Transmitter Trinket a pain in the ass? Anyone got it?

[molten wing]

its strong but pretty annoying to deal with

[fading sky]

i never feel like to little rage. hmm what you are complaining about is that theres a difference in gameplay in cds or without cds ?

[covert blaze]

It is

I made a weakaura for it

https://wago.io/xWkCDegWH

[mortal warren]

Is arms after the nerf more ahead then furry in raid?

[fading sky]

not rly

st was equal nerf

Aoe well fury allready had more at a less cost ^_^

[solar moss]

hi guys is it normal that ara-kara sacblood sims so poorly for me?

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/siwYErfTgbfTRAQp1BK8fH

not sure if i should even put it on

or is it simm error

[radiant plank]

Shadow binding ritual knife is good trinket

and the ara kara is within variance with it at same ilvl

wouldnt exaclty say its simming poorly

[oblique trail]

@young swan french

[golden hare]

@oblique trail danish

[dense sedge]

Morning all, quick question with AJ when do we want to be refreshing it around the 2 second mark>

[oblique trail]

didn't expect this from u..

[dense sedge]

so it doesn't fall of or do we prior the 3 marked for executions over it

[solar moss]

aight, i guess Ara-Kara trinket should be better later on when we get it on hero track since Ritual Knife can't go that high unless u luck it out from map

[radiant plank]

yep

[solar moss]

thanks bro

[golden hare]

sorry...

[molten wing]

its pretty close to the current trinkets you have and they are good trinkets the dagger is pretty decent and the transmitter is strong , even if annoying to use

[solar moss]

i was just suprised that ara-kara isn't way above since its bis for almost everyone

xD

[golden hare]

bis doesn't mean 55 bajillion % better, and you don't have the rest of the "bis" items so it might be relatively weaker with your gear set

[uncut hedge]

is this Shadow binding ritual knife really that good? the stat reduction effect sounds terrible

[golden hare]

0.5 rppm

[molten wing]

it barelly happens

so its good

[golden hare]

10 seconds every 2 minutes roughly

[uncut hedge]

ah okay so i give it a try, over 593 skarmorak shard

[errant vessel]

Does anyone know if Rampage getting parried = no empowered BT/RB from RA?

[golden hare]

yea lol

[errant vessel]

Ah ok

[still vapor]

Has anyone done the math to see if the Mountain Thane will be viable on the next patch?
Mountain Thane: Strength of the Mountain increases Bloodthirst and Rampage damage by 20% (was 15%).

[errant vessel]

5% dmg mitigation from the front when

[solar moss]

Current gear might be the issue ig since i have bajilion haste and not much mastery relatively

thanks

[golden hare]

viable yeah but definitely worse

[unreal onyx]

#updates-midnight

[still vapor]

ah kk thx

[leaden wasp]

are u guys crafting already? if yes, what? Since we need 2 weapons anyway it wouldnt be bad to craft a weapon?

[chrome plover]

main hand is far more value than off hand

[tired brook]

i made my 619 2h already

[chrome plover]

i will likely craft a weapon on reset when i have enough gilded crests

[tired brook]

costed 170k, id wait if you can rofl

[leaden wasp]

sure but non the less, the crafted one is 619 which shouldnt be replaced soon?

or recrafted to higher ilvl

[tired brook]

140k for crafting + tip, 30k for enchantment

[flat river]

this raid is boring af

:P

[tired brook]

u just recraft it

[oblique trail]

Bad take

[chrome plover]

wrong

[tired brook]

i enjoy this raid a lot

[oblique trail]

Ansurek goes hard

[unreal onyx]

Isnt the play to craft myth crest stuff next week and craft 2nd best item this week?

[oblique trail]

Princess goes hard

Broodtwister also kinda hard but might be absolute dookie ass on mythic

[flat river]

court is most fun part

[radiant plank]

Only cringe fight is ovinax

rest are good

[chrome plover]

i think broodtwister prog is gonna SUCK

but i really like the rest

[unreal onyx]

Court is bad (potentially tank issue on our part)

[tired brook]

rwf who yall got

[flat river]

queen and silken court are nice

[radiant plank]

(tank issue deffo)

[unreal onyx]

Surely we‘ll get our aotc today

[solar moss]

Surelyy

[radiant plank]

P1 is hardest part np

[unreal onyx]

I hope to at least kill court today and get the weap

[radiant plank]

from queen

[clever belfry]

ansurek mythic p1 5 bombs moment

[oblique trail]

Can't wait

[clever belfry]

Gonna be proper fiesta

[solar moss]

oh rlly?

[oblique trail]

P1 is definitely the hardest

[clever belfry]

not even close
rest is a cake walk

[solar moss]

our guild only got to last platform 2 times so i had no clue

XD

[oblique trail]

There's a lot of movement, damage and if you mess up just a tiny bit during bombs it can easily spiral

[radiant plank]

Last platform is like killable on first attempt if everyone read strats

First platform is waiting room till mage learns to not blink into the bomb

[clever belfry]

put portal
go through portal

[radiant plank]

(never)

[solar moss]

fr

[oblique trail]

Never blinked into the bomb 😎

you have to try to hit it

[solar moss]

or melee group learn to watch waves comming through the boss

[chrome plover]

court is so cool man

tripping the guy with webs

is badass

[half kettle]

Tldr on changes for tomorrow? Just aoe dmg down, no switching to thane?

[chrome plover]

#updates-midnight

[radiant plank]

Slayer is dead

play thane

[chrome plover]

💀

[solar moss]

fury is dead

play something else

[chrome plover]

better luck in s2

[solar moss]

./s

[covert blaze]

Healers need to figure out the dispel

P3 is the easiest

Just have to know what to expect

[covert blaze]

They have me doing third bomb

[oblique trail]

Unfort..

[half kettle]

Thanks

[oblique trail]

Even as mage I didn't have to do any mechanics

Could just press my buttons

[radiant plank]

mage is broken on queen tho,,

Blink over ring in p3

[fiery thorn]

how much of a dps loss is it to ignore the 2nd half of this line...

[radiant plank]

Pull in is not a mechanic

[oblique trail]

Not in my hands

[covert blaze]

I lose uptime from the big circle and it fucks with my bladestorm cdr very hard

[fiery thorn]

thats annoying

[oblique trail]

Basically 0

It's a gain, but simwise it's incredibly small (like 0.2% or something) and not really worth tracking unless you care about the smallest of gains

[oblique trail]

Yeah mage owns hard for this mechanic and I can't wait to get rolled on my warrior due to "no path found" when trying to leap xd

[gilded pawn]

Hekili tracks it for you

[radiant plank]

Intervene bro

[oblique trail]

"He's a goblin??"

[covert blaze]

Charging after the yank is goated

[radiant plank]

Bladestorming the yank

gamermove

[covert blaze]

The boss' hitbox is very big so it's safe

[oblique trail]

hm

Does charge cancel the pull-in during P1 intermission

[covert blaze]

Sometimes I can't because not enough slayer strikes

[oblique trail]

where you have to break shield

[covert blaze]

ye thats what I mean

[oblique trail]

ic

[radiant plank]

Leap/intervene 1st BS 2nd leap/intervene 3rd

[chrome plover]

we got through p1 reasonably clean last night, so kill tonight?

[radiant plank]

100% uptime

[chrome plover]

⏸️

[radiant plank]

Velf back

[oblique trail]

Hardest part over with

[covert blaze]

[covert blaze]

Probably, if your healers research the dispel and everyone watches a kill video on how to do p3

[chrome plover]

optional raid tonight though so maybe comp is cursed

[radiant plank]

Chawie only tip for p3

Just fucking unload your load on the small adds

[chrome plover]

(i dont know what happens after p1 apart from normal mechs 💀)

[covert blaze]

Yeah look at logs

[radiant plank]

Watch Crits commentary on Queen

[covert blaze]

CD usage is weirdge

[radiant plank]

its very good

press CDS where he does

guaranteed victory

[covert blaze]

I get like no joke 15 fps during queen intermission

It's very scary

[oblique trail]

30 man Ansurek is a fever dream

A ton of dodging with a million spell effects and 5 fps

[radiant plank]

Big fps tip on Queen

is 3s update on details

and disable your raid frames

[oblique trail]

I played with no raid frames

Idk update time on Details, w/e atrocity deemed default

Was still pretty bad during pull

5-10 fps opener goes very hard

[radiant plank]

goes

[chrome plover]

pog i will do that

[chrome plover]

i did that yonks ago and it does bits for performance

used to play on minimum update

like 0.1s so the bars look animated

[oblique trail]

Need to see every miniscule DPS increase and decrease in real time

[pale sable]

On Queen Ansurek, can we use Bladestorm or Berserker Rage to immune/remove Wreth?

[oblique trail]

Bladestorm yes, Rage no

[pale sable]

thx

[tawny geode]

u guys reckon this trink is strong

[oblique trail]

It's okay but there are better trinkets with no downside

[tawny geode]

which ones are the best u d say

ara kara passive and a on use ?

[oblique trail]

Technically Transmitter + Mandate iirc is the best for ST atm

But for M+ I'd use Ara + Skarmorak/Mark of Khardros

[tawny geode]

dont really care about raid tbf, m+ mainly

[tawny geode]

yeh bet

[clever belfry]

honestly transmitter is not gonna b bad in keys

[tawny geode]

😂

[oblique trail]

Likely the case

[clever belfry]

did u see

front right lore

[oblique trail]

But would rather just use the two other options

I did

I don't have it and it already sounds ass

But maybe it's a lot worse on paper than in practice to use it

[tawny geode]

@oblique trail and what bout crafts ? im waiting for next week

[oblique trail]

Haven't crafted, but if all you care about is M+ then would just go 2x Lining

Ascendance + Banding if raid is primary focus

[fiery tide]

what if youre equally focused on both?

[tawny geode]

idk if i should craft a 2H either lol

not even wortth it maybe

rooting for that 619 wep from Silken in vault 🤓

[oblique trail]

To be honest you can't really go wrong with either setup, but even if you're mixed then Lining as well

Simwise it's close to Ascendance + Banding, but works in both types of content

[ripe wyvern]

what is the alternative for crafting if i wanna avoid weapon

[oblique trail]

And on HC at least the uptime of Lining is quite high

Will do HC Ansurek tonight on warrior to see what the uptime is like there

[radiant plank]

Uptime so silly high now with 80% hp threshold

[covert blaze]

Oh?

[oblique trail]

On HC princess

Also 96 on HC Broodtwister

Of course Mythic should be markedly different, but paints a good enough picture

[radiant plank]

Everyone in my raid had 70%-80%

[mossy fox]

I think i'll go lining honestly

[covert blaze]

@radiant plank disabling frames gives you fps? What the heck

[radiant plank]

Yeah if u have raid WA's

and/or elfui

[covert blaze]

Straight up disable then in elv then?

[radiant plank]

So I have heard

[mossy fox]

but then again ascendance is prolly pretty huge on mythic prog cause fights are long

[radiant plank]

I think Ascendance craft is the play 100% for mythic prog

[covert blaze]

Elfui is just funkykitty's character dancing in the middle of the screen

[oblique trail]

Tbf it's only 2½ minutes for max stack, so Ascendance will have pretty big value yea

[covert blaze]

By raid weakauras do you mean having your weakauras as frames or

[radiant plank]

Like if you have weakauras that attach to raid frames

for debuff etc

in 30mans its really bad lag

[covert blaze]

I see

That will probably help

[radiant plank]

I played all night with no raid wa + no raid frames

No CR no problem

[naive swallow]

what pc u guys are using for wow raiding , i wonder what's critcake's pc spec

[oblique trail]

Tbf as a DPS you don't need frames anyway

[naive swallow]

saw his vid raid with like 120 fps +

[oblique trail]

But it was a bit confusing sometimes when a wipe was called and you can't tell how many people were dead

[covert blaze]

Pretty sure crit has a monster pc

[radiant plank]

If u watch the rwf guys even they are lagging on 30man Queen

[naive swallow]

is sth like i9- 13900K and RTX 5070 Ti super , overkill ?

[oblique trail]

No PC will allow you to do a 30 man raid without drops

[naive swallow]

assuming , max graphics , 120fps at least for 30 man raiding

[thick fossil]

5070 Ti, wot?

[radiant plank]

Remove 30man raid

kill splits

[covert blaze]

5070 ti super poggers

[radiant plank]

[naive swallow]

4070 myb

[tawny geode]

lmfaoo

[covert blaze]

Bro raiding 11.3

[naive swallow]

sry to have revealed the truth , im a time traveler , and do not clap

discord in 2024 sucks SO much , sry for wining

[radiant plank]

Go back to TS and forums

[covert blaze]

Do you guys have working MRT notes btw

[oblique trail]

Ours work ye

[covert blaze]

We couldn't get the note to work

Idk why

Poor healer reading a movie script every pull on voice

[oblique trail]

Can't tell you what we did differently though

Other than make sure to update all addons before going into raid

Did hear one of our healers asking if we had a PoV with note showing

[warped bone]

No issues with MRT here either

[molten wing]

using MRT ? smh just zug zug

[clever belfry]

high

[oblique trail]

I'm high

[covert blaze]

baseg

[clever belfry]

i had 60% on my hunt on ansurek

and we were 4 1/2 healing 30m

[oblique trail]

We're 6-7 healing it

[clever belfry]

just 6 heal that fight

ye

[covert blaze]

Wym 4 1/2

[oblique trail]

4 man sounds way too monka

[clever belfry]

i said what i said

[tardy axle]

ok situation

youre at like 50 rage, BL on CD, RB on 2 stacks BUT you have opportunist proc, no execute proc, according to the prio list; spam slam?

[covert blaze]

Can you elaborate

[clever belfry]

no.

[oblique trail]

You press RB

[chrome plover]

[covert blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/frodo-keep-your-secrets-alright-then-lotr-gif-12907121

[tardy axle]

but youu have opportunist proc; the prio says dont do that if its not CB

[oblique trail]

Ok but you still just RB

Slam is an absolute dookie button and it's your last resort

[clever belfry]

with all RB talents and SD specced

u should not get to press slam

more than like thrice a fight

[tardy axle]

so the prio is wrong then; because i pointed it out to the wowhead writer thing and hes like "yea because you dont use it"

[rotund flume]

i just press whirlwind cause im a pleb and too lazy to add an extra button to press

[covert blaze]

Caring about opportunist is very very minor

[oblique trail]

I had 5 casts on both Sikran and Princess, it's over for me

(and multiple parried abilities)

[covert blaze]

You are misunderstanding

[golden hare]

you can have a macro do ww with imp ww talent and slam otherwise. aka no extra button

[clever belfry]

tbf the prio on wowhead does say you should slam > RB if opportunist is active

[radiant plank]

what here is wrong

Im confuse

[tardy axle]

9

to 13

[rotund flume]

oh damn, do share hahaha

[radiant plank]

You can ignore the Opportunist line on RB for a whopping 0 dps lost

[clever belfry]

yeah idk why its there

should get axed

its so fucking minor for an extra conditional

v silly

[radiant plank]

Someone send a quick sim

I wanna see how the apl does that situation

[golden hare]

/cast [known:Improved Whirlwind]Whirlwind; Slam```
i think it's like this ?

[clever belfry]

just read apl instead?

[radiant plank]

True

[covert blaze]

I use #showtooltip /cast [known:436707] Thunder Clap /cast [known:12950] Whirlwind /cast Slam

[oblique trail]

holy

[golden hare]

that one is more complete

[chrome plover]

double slam

[clever belfry]

NOOOOOOOOO

yeah this what the APL and the prio reads

u will not catch me doing this

🤷‍♂️

[covert blaze]

oh...

[oblique trail]

Tbf that's not with Opportunist

[covert blaze]

oh no

[oblique trail]

Just thought it was fun to see 2x Slam

[chrome plover]

I pressed a singular slam on princess

[radiant plank]

actions.slayer_st+=/raging_blow,if=rage<100&!buff.opportunist.up
actions.slayer_st+=/rampage,if=talent.reckless_abandon
actions.slayer_st+=/execute,if=buff.enrage.up&debuff.marked_for_execution.up
actions.slayer_st+=/bloodthirst,if=!talent.reckless_abandon&buff.enrage.up
actions.slayer_st+=/raging_blow
actions.slayer_st+=/onslaught
actions.slayer_st+=/execute
actions.slayer_st+=/bloodthirst
actions.slayer_st+=/whirlwind,if=talent.meat_cleaver
actions.slayer_st+=/slam

Reading

[clever belfry]

actions.slayer_st+=/raging_blow

it just always RBs

[molten wing]

inner Arms warrior showing there for 2 seconds

[clever belfry]

before Ons/exe/bt

[radiant plank]

yep

[clever belfry]

as fallback

[radiant plank]

But if you can rampage and opportunist is up you rampage

[clever belfry]

i mean according to this execute with any MfE up is also placed wrongly

[radiant plank]

to spend opportunist on CB

[clever belfry]

(in the grand scheme it will not matter much legit)

[clever belfry]

honest to god i will just ramp if BB and CB are not avail and i can ramp

so i dont have ot think about this dogshit

[radiant plank]

You know

You could just play the better spec

[rotund flume]

❤️

[clever belfry]

bm hunter? yeah

[radiant plank]

Yep

[oblique trail]

I have begun rampaging at 100+ rage or if reck is active, and just ignore BB in that scenario

But I don't even know what the dps diffie is

[clever belfry]

the ignore BB thing is okay

banezi give me strength

to do double on use apl

[covert blaze]

I refuse to do this

[oblique trail]

I don't care what trinkets it is, double on use is cringle

I can not give you the strength you need

[clever belfry]

its transmitter+skarm/mark

[oblique trail]

good luck

[clever belfry]

i just copy pasta udk implementation surely

but first its SD and abussy reset...

time to grind

[oblique trail]

be sure to do your daily dose of gambling

[clever belfry]

already got a 🅱️

[oblique trail]

It feels a bit ass so unless I see the difference between doing this or not, I will likely just stop doing it too

[clever belfry]

just be king and do CB > BB > Ramp > RB > BT

who cares m8

[covert blaze]

What's the CD on double on use stuff again? 20s?

[clever belfry]

20s

transmitter is on field for 15s

so u can overlap for 10s

and coincidentally

esp on aoe u get like all ur dam out in those 10 :)

[radiant plank]

Prepull Transmitter at 5

go do opener

leap back to it before ava

[molten wing]

im using double on use but its those two so one is macroed and one i just press 20 secs into the fight

[radiant plank]

[clever belfry]

okay that is not

the double on use we are discussing

[oblique trail]

Pretty sure Larynx isn't one of those that share CD or am I cooked

[radiant plank]

Cooked

[oblique trail]

unlucky

[clever belfry]

using dmg on use trinket is vastly diff

[molten wing]

probably , which one are you talking about though

[radiant plank]

How astro cursed Mark of khadros + transmitter

[clever belfry]

bro i will not repeat

what i typed 2min ago

if u care u read up

[radiant plank]

anda pls no curse spec

[clever belfry]

i did not curse!

[molten wing]

yeah transmitter but i'm cooked to find the other one

[clever belfry]

balls!

[covert blaze]

Kina smartge he saw this coming

[molten wing]

ah yeah mark/skarm

[tardy lark]

https://tenor.com/view/i-hate-it-but-thank-you-jane-fonda-grace-hanson-grace-and-frankie-i-dont-like-it-but-thanks-gif-17583727

[covert blaze]

I didn't want to say anything

you all gotta thank anda for putting this out in public

[radiant plank]

Freaking anda

[clever belfry]

we are blasting

infinite burst

(the adds on rashanon will DIE)

[covert blaze]

@clever belfry I hate you

[clever belfry]

same bro same

[radiant plank]

:noo

[copper patio]

they fixed the similar one for casters in DF s1 to only start the 20s after 'quest complete', can expect the same no?

[covert blaze]

Hopefully

Fk me man

[slate escarp]

is it the right way to craft my 2h weap with 2 sparks right now? or should i craft anything else?

[covert blaze]

cat's out of the bag

[tardy lark]

shit aint happening on prog, but you'll catch me doing that for parses during farm

[radiant plank]

Craft DN

[slate escarp]

whats dn?

[covert blaze]

bro

[modest condor]

dreadnaught

[radiant plank]

🎦

[chrome plover]

🎦

[clever belfry]

they also kept this shit in for mages for all of BFA

[covert blaze]

you can craft your weapon at 606 rn and upgrade it to max with 90 gilded crests next week

[clever belfry]

👍

[gleaming siren]

If you get pad pre-pull and try to do this gl

[clever belfry]

pad is fine

[covert blaze]

[clever belfry]

u just charge over it

and delay opener by 2s

👍

[covert blaze]

You gotta stand on it for 3 seconds

[clever belfry]

its not

3s

get a fuckign grip

[gleaming siren]

it's pretty short

[slate escarp]

okay , thanks does it matter if i do a sword or axe?

[gleaming siren]

but it's not charge over short I think

[clever belfry]

or mace

and no

[warm crag]

Its stand then charge short

[clever belfry]

u step on it shortly

walk off

then charge

?

[gleaming siren]

ye ok

[warm crag]

Or stand walk off stand charge lore

[gleaming siren]

works

[naive swallow]

i thought i might have made a mistake just by searching "geforce rtx 4070" , apparently all the brands are naming their products with the exact model name

[covert blaze]

I'm pretty sure it is

[clever belfry]

it

absolutely is not 3s

[warm crag]

We have the trinket you Muppet

[gleaming siren]

I just tried to test it
on my Warlock gg

brain fried

[covert blaze]

I do too

[clever belfry]

🅱️arlock

[warm crag]

Count 3 seconds

[covert blaze]

I'm cooked ig

I'm not in game you do it

And tell me the number

[warm crag]

I'm not in game either you zhai zhai get a grip ya zhai

[clever belfry]

maybe get out of bed

and schmongie vc time

[warm crag]

Not in bed noob

[gleaming siren]

bit over 1 sec maybe

I just tried

But I pressed start right before stepping on

[covert blaze]

Doesn't matter, the damage thingy is normalized even though it might not look like it

[gleaming siren]

and stop when I saw buff

1.5 sec maybe

[warm crag]

Ur sky hold rep is hated since the hc weapon craft ngl

[clever shore]

As far as I can see, we always have to use the MT rotation taking a couple of encounters out of the raid, right?

[covert blaze]

Worked out fine

[warm crag]

Tf you mean worked out fine

We are not at the point in time where this is decided

Someone in your raid will be crests short and you will be responsible

[covert blaze]

100 locked in on the very important difficulty

[warm crag]

Real

[oblique trail]

https://tenor.com/view/car-garn47-sleep-goodnight-gif-16502736841422449648

[covert blaze]

Do it again

[gleaming siren]

I shall

[covert blaze]

There's no way that thing is not like 2.5

[gleaming siren]

obtain video footage

[covert blaze]

The pad lights up

With like

A beam when you are touching it

[covert blaze]

All but sikran/kyveza

[heavy sparrow]

i noticed that if you have the impefect ascendancy trinket up and you charge a target you naruto run to it

[covert blaze]

@gleaming siren tag me with results I might pass out at any moment

[gleaming siren]

I took a video and it looks like 2 seconds on the dot @covert blaze

Might be less even

but definitely not more

1.5 possible

[covert blaze]

ok L me

I could swear it was 2+

[wide hamlet]

I was checking Wowhead for macros, is there a reason to not macro Avatar and Recklessness to the same keybind?

[covert blaze]

it feels like an eternity to my anxiety-riddled brain

[wide hamlet]

It seems that they are both off the gcd and both have the same CD

So I'm struggling to understand why you wouldn't macro them together

[lost saffron]

You can do it, but you sometimes use recklessness before avatar

so you should have a seperate bind for it

[gleaming siren]

1.5 seconds with frame counting

[modest condor]

if you're playing titan's torment you reck prepull

[gleaming siren]

pad doesnt instantly disappear

[wide hamlet]

Oh, I should probably check the rotation again then cause I thought both were usually cast together

[covert blaze]

I'm using a sound cue for when I get the buff

[gleaming siren]

I probably missed the first 3 where I barely counted as on

[covert blaze]

ok knowing the exact timer will help

good comms

[gleaming siren]

87 Frames possibly 3 miscounted at start 👌

60 FPS

[oblique trail]

They are used together, but not necessarily at the same time

[quick schooner]

Guys who play mythic plus mainly and also thinking about raid . what you going to use spark on ??? weapon

aslo it not optimal to craft this week and should craft next week or it dose not matter ?

[dense elbow]

I am holding till after first week vault, if I don't get one from there I will craft one. If I do, I will craft an off piece

[quick schooner]

you mean get weapon ?? but we use 2 weapons so even if a weapon drop you can still use the crafted one . you only need the buff from it

[dense elbow]

My offhand will hold my PvP 610 for now

[quick schooner]

i think fury warrior waste the most resource on weapon since we use 2 . 2handed weapon blizzard please help us on that XD

[chrome plover]

off hand is far less important than main hand

[quick schooner]

make it 1 spark for warrior

[dusty cove]

Is it safe to make Claymore now then?

[quick schooner]

If you are crafting a two-hander, craft it at 636. Do not spend 45 runed crests to craft an item at 619 for any reason. got my answer

[vapid tiger]

can we do 636 now or tuesday?

[quick schooner]

next week when you start geting mythic crest. so after tomorow

[vapid tiger]

ty

[dusty cove]

I was thinking of making it at 606 with weathered and then re crafting at 636

[quick schooner]

also

[dense elbow]

M0 weap is 606 tho, but sure you can craft away

[vapid tiger]

And those are from 9s or higher?

[quick schooner]

Open your vault for a 616 item level piece. Remember this item is on the Heroic track, not mythic track. Picking an item will save you 1 small Crest upgrade but unless it’s an important item I strongly urge taking a socket.

this is copy paste from Larias Google Doc

it seam it better to take socket on this week vault

[bitter palm]

yes'

weak vault

with m+ u can just spam hero pieces

[dense elbow]

Depends, but sure. If you are a normal/HC raider, just take the item. If you farm m+ and do mythic raid, ya can skip ez and take socket

I guess in theory if you are a delver only, you only farming map HC gear, and go for socket

[quick schooner]

why everything is soooo expensive enchant and stuff . is it like this the begning of every expansion because last expansion season was much cheapoer

[dense elbow]

Supply Vs demand

[quick schooner]

the supply are down . where are the chinese bot when you need them .

[wise trout]

hi, when should I ideally use execute? 2 stacks of SD, 3 stacks of marked execution, to refresh ashen juggernaut and if nothing else available?

is there any priority to what's more important i.e. better to refresh ashen juggernaut than to wait for second stack of SD?

[unreal onyx]

Also getting some of the bis recipies is harder than just learning them

[pearl sequoia]

people are making more money so prices are higher on evcerything

can mine / herb for an hour and make 50k

like..

[dusty cove]

I thought the ascended proc would be worth it though? Then re craft it cheap

[quick schooner]

from what i understand Excute is way down there in the priority list

talking out side of CD and taking the fact that you are enrage
excute is top with 3xmarket of excution or to refresh ashen

other than that it only better than Raw unbuffed Blood thirst

[dense elbow]

So supply is low cause rarity, as such affects the ability to affect the demand?

[unique frigate]

Ironclaw whetstones are still bit too pricy, should i use haste oil or deep toxins oil?

[dusty cove]

You must not have played In season one of last expansion because that was much more expensive than now

[lavish pond]

so guys with the upcoming nerfs of fury warriors, are they going to impact the perfomance dramatically?

[quick schooner]

oh ya i dont remember that why i asked . when i said season i ment season 2 and 3 etc

[dense elbow]

150k for 1 enchant, DF s1

[quick schooner]

it seam the price is super high in season 1 always

[dense elbow]

Yep

Crafters ain't maxed out yet if ya ain't a degen

[dusty cove]

Season 1 is always the most expensive because everything is new so there is less supply

[rapid rivet]

#updates-midnight - short answer, no

[quick schooner]

what about mythic plus ?

[lavish pond]

-15% OF and -10% BS?

[tired brook]

Yes, the nerfs were roughly a 35% total damage loss

Our class is now one of the worst

[lavish pond]

thats too much, no?

[tired brook]

time to reroll

[lavish pond]

im not rerolling mate

[tired brook]

you shall suffer with us

for we are worse than ferals now.

[rapid rivet]

Go read the channel I linked for the expanded answer, I gave you the short one

[quick schooner]

any one did some calcualtion on single target and aoe dmg loose %

other class have that in pin

[iron kernel]

why new race have no sim?

[quick schooner]

where are the smart warriors XD we need more of those

[tired brook]

#updates-midnight message

^

[quick schooner]

OMG i spoke 2 soon . ofc we have Best community ever

[lavish pond]

it says about trinkets as i read quickly

[dusty cove]

What about it?

[rapid rivet]

literally one section up

[tired brook]

do not worry

we understand you have warrior brain

[quick schooner]

wanted to ask how much the nerf effect mythic plus

Fury Slayer dungeon/mythic+ went down ~3%.

got my answer on the Update war within

didnt know that you guys stack info there

[golden hare]

play prot in keys

very pogger very happy spec

[dusty cove]

I'm just worried about how much pad warrior can do in raid 😂 leading to more nerfs

[upper mica]

what is the opening rotation? ive been charging in adn using avatar then reck and blade... i have a feeling that is completely wrong

[terse meadow]

is it worth to take whirlwind tanlents vs double melee comps for the spread or better stay ST talents ?

[dense elbow]

PvP question?

[somber elk]

We are still busted

[bitter palm]

nono we will be bottom!!!!

[somber elk]

Damn I fortgot

[dense elbow]

Our burst took a big hit tho - and that sucks for those of us that just love big burst

[bitter palm]

good

maybe i will be able to live ovinax

[tardy lark]

Bloodbound Horror has been harder for me. Adds hit real hard on that one

spiders on Ovinax less so

[bitter palm]

colossal spider my beloved

i think they are attracted to me

[bitter palm]

rate

🎦

[tardy lark]

our hc logs are gone idk

[molten wing]

i would expect this from a rogue or DH

but warr smh

[tardy lark]

but i got a solid tenner on Bloodbound in 2 splits

[dense elbow]

So A) you did that to yourself, or B) your tank is slow, and you should play around that

smh

[tardy lark]

with a 5.5 mil melee xd

[molten wing]

he didn't wait for the 3 sunders

[bitter palm]

shouldnt have used transmitter

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-duck-gif-1363576254939741235

[mint sphinx]

Thoughts on https://www.wowhead.com/item=212449/sikrans-endless-arsenal ? Can't seem to find any sims or mentions of it on icy/wowhead

[molten wing]

i got it on my ret paladin from now its pretty dogshit tbh

[mint sphinx]

Fuck

[night relic]

tanking honkshoo amimimi

[mint sphinx]

I have literally gotten one item on my warrior after 8/8N and 4/8HC, and this is it..

It is HC though, but still idk

[chrome oasis]

[oblique trail]

Mate..

How do you manage..

[tardy lark]

i dont manage

i blast

[oblique trail]

Blast a hole in the ground as a grave maybe

[molten wing]

this is from normal Nexus-Princess used it 4 times

its pretty meh

[tardy lark]

did my best attempt, but arms is easier to not rip threat on, so i guess im back arms for farm xd

[oblique trail]

Maybe I just didn't blast good enough, but I've yet to die to aggro

Think it's just a case of Noobgaard

[tardy lark]

maybe this is the nelf angle

[molten wing]

i do like my opener on Bloodtwister

game crashed had to relog 3 secs before starting

[chrome plover]

we love broodtwister

[errant vessel]

I'm just happy I'm not the only one that died to tank mechanics/melees this week

[golden hare]

prot in keys is like fury but without bladestorm innit

[modest condor]

innit bruv

[night relic]

u gotta handhold ur team and call everything in high keys

honkshoo amimimimi

[pearl sequoia]

I saw like 2 adds on brood and he died

poo boss

[golden hare]

this should be a dps players job btw... need to normalize dps players thinking (very hard)

[night relic]

dps players are already thinking very hard

do u know how much thinking power it takes to maximize button 1 and then 2

and then have to do that all over again!

[mint sphinx]

Damn it, thanks though

[ripe notch]

How hard is the nerf gonna hit us do we go from hero to zero?

[golden hare]

fair point

[oblique trail]

Erga think for me

[golden hare]

teach a man how to fish and he eat
teach a fish how to man and uhh

[near yarrow]

is radiant power worth getting on both weapons? does it stack or should I do something else

[pearl sequoia]

yes it stacks

[gloomy lynx]

x2 depths sims higher for me but radiant could be good for pure aoe

[near yarrow]

I guess I should clarify that it's for PvP

[pearl sequoia]

ive seen people use radiant and depths at high lvl pvp

might just be because radiant is cheaper right now though

[molten wing]

Depths slaps in PVP it also leaves a dot on targets that would try to restealth

so i would go with that

[near yarrow]

brilliant

[tardy lark]

can always check murlok.io

[near yarrow]

awesome ty

[summer bobcat]

do we have any ability to somehow decrease bladestorm cd?

[solid kestrel]

Slayer/anger management

[summer bobcat]

im not running anger management

but i feel like it sometimes gets ready sooner

[tardy lark]

execute on a target with marked for execution from slayer tree

reduces BS by 5 seconds pr stack consumed

[summer bobcat]

thank you

[dawn gulch]

hello there :)
is Mountain Thane bugged on Fury? Thunder Blast seems to never proc on AoE.

[fickle bluff]

youre the second person to say that but noones been able to replicate it

[pearl sequoia]

Time to relvl a warrior cuz your bugged

[dawn gulch]

is never procs while having the Whirlwind buff up (testing on dummies)

[torn sentinel]

When i quick sim for my opener with queen ansurek build (basicly m+) it says: Reck->charge->Avatar(pots etc)->DR->Rampage-> BS->Odyn. whats the reason you dont rampage b4 DR?

[tardy lark]

your avatar enrages you because of berserkers torment

or whatever the node after avatar is called

• the node after OF

[rose rain]

Hey could someone point me in the right direction, do we have any info yet about diminishing returns on stats, or is it too early yet for such information? Do i simply stick to simming my character with the current methods?

[grizzled granite]

couldn't find in the dps faq section.. what runes or stones should we use to imbue weaps for raid, m+ etc ?

[tardy lark]

you can completely disregard any knowledge about diminishing returns and let sims take care of the thinking for you

[rose rain]

That works for me, thanks!

[torn sentinel]

but it grants recklesness, and this doesnt enrage you no? only increased rage and crit chance?

[north edge]

is it worth farming the Ravenous Honey Buzzer

or is that fixed now?

[night relic]

any point in doing delves when u got all 603+ gear

[torn sentinel]

ahhh ofc, thanks

[ember aurora]

cope for the map for 610 hero 1/10

[somber marlin]

I love that you say this, my warriors name is busted 😂

[uncut scarab]

I bet this has been asked like a trillion times but i am just dumb and can't find it what's the deal with bladestorm desincing with reck and avatar do i just send it on cd or wait for the other cds ?

[molten wing]

if cds are coming back in ~10secs probably wait if not send

it also depends on the fight sometimes

[tardy lark]

in pure ST you just send it

[uncut scarab]

cool thanks i can usually sinc it with odyn's fury for a short avatar anyway iguess

[tardy lark]

during lust it'll often sync up that way

[oblique trail]

Not really no

Did 2 delves yesterday, not gonna bother anymore since I'm 606 in all slots

[tardy lark]

I need chest transmog

[night relic]

ill just go bash my head against the wall in some pugs then

[tired brook]

605 ilvl rn with 580 boots

surely i get boots soon

[desert cloud]

I mean u can get contracts for hero gear

[oblique trail]

I have gotten zero bounty's so far, and I'm not gonna go waste my life away for gear I'll replace with m+ gear

[desert cloud]

But i guess m+ is releasing soon ye

[vapid tiger]

does that have a better drop rate in bountiful?

[tired brook]

yea

[desert cloud]

I've gotten 3 so far

[tired brook]

its like 4% drop chance in bountiful much less in normal

i've gotten 2

[desert cloud]

They only drop from bountiful

[red berry]

does it drop from normal chests that aren’t the big one?

[tardy lark]

i've gotten 8 across 3 characters with 4x3 delves a day

a guildie has gotten 6 on a single char

[night relic]

4x3 delves day

fuck that

[desert cloud]

Lucky fakwad

[tardy lark]

yes

i was not amused when they randomly fucked the scaling and made solo tank the easiest way

delves going from 5 mins to 15

[oblique trail]

Have done 4x2 a day until yesterday

And yeah, went from being fine to very tedious

Ruined delves for me a bit

[tardy lark]

they were shit when i stepped in

and they are more shit now

[molten spire]

592 ilevel with a 558 belt

I'll get one soon

[desert cloud]

I keep getting crit haste and crit vers from the contract bountiful delves

They rlly want me to play arms

[tired brook]

my stats are so fucked

dunno if its good for fury

i have like 2k crit 10-11k everything else

idk how i managed to get 10k vers in full pve gear

[desert cloud]

If it's a piece of normal loot then stats don't matter if it's neck/ring then it matters a lil

[iron portal]

It being major selling point of TWW also doesnt help

[stuck bison]

Is crafting "ascension embelish weapon 636 and double value embelish on 590 blue gear" the way ?

[chilly sapphire]

Been seeing people talking about warbound gear from queen hc that's unintended, any got any intel?

[oblique trail]

The Torghast effect..

(Except it wasn't actually mandatory, just very much a good thing to do if you care about performance in HC week)

[burnt kelp]

my problem with delves is they were finish at release but every update made them worse

[clever belfry]

77777

[tired brook]

and they're completely irrelevant past the first 2 weeks of season

[clever belfry]

77777777777777

[iron portal]

Nothing really is mandatory. We are free people

😏

[tired brook]

torghast you had to do for legendaries but why would people ever delve outside of this week

[oblique trail]

sieben acht neun

[tired brook]

idgi

[burnt kelp]

its content for the people who refuse to do m+ or raids and still want some gear

[teal pine]

I think delves are way worse than torghast with the benefit of them being that they arent mandatory. Getting a strong build in torghast was pretty fun but afking between every pack for cds or just letting brann kill things is very not fun

[iron portal]

One day you can do them as solo player, the other day you struggle with every group size
One day Bran demolishes, the other day he ddoesnt even attack half the time to boss

[burnt kelp]

I don't know what that % of the population is

[iron portal]

It is bit wild

[tired brook]

i certainly dont mind the great vault rewards though, 616 is pretty crazy

considering heroic is 610

[violet estuary]

thinking to reroll devoker to fury or rpala. Feel like im facetanking in solo content anyway. Good or bad idea?

[burnt kelp]

[tired brook]

time to roll 3 616 candle trinkets from delve vault