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#fury
serene vessel
i would be really surprised if a bm hunter in a guild that couldn't clear more than 4/9 mythic last tier was getting funelled to have perfect gear in heroic
drowsy iron
i swear sims are wacky for this enchant
i cant figure it out
sometimes its .1% loss and other times its .3% gain
harsh cloak
Seems like a stat proc would be better for AOE right?
marsh palm
3m fight
viral jasper
The real play is wait and see what pops up on mythic subcreation next week lol
clever path
1 pc of loot from all of normal and all of heroic. Press F
marsh palm
next pull 1.5%
nahhhhh
cyan turtle
so on the blood boss, yall hold cds until adds? :hmm isnt it random if ur grp gets first adds
marsh palm
so on the blood boss, yall hold cds until adds? :hmm isnt it random if ur grp ge...
real gamers press everything in cd xd
clever path
so on the blood boss, yall hold cds until adds? :hmm isnt it random if ur grp ge...
It’s random-ish. But holding for 13 seconds until the swirlies show up won’t cost you a use and avatar is still under lust
You hold for sure.
marsh palm
You hold for sure.
top log btw
marsh palm
do we look like top loggers
i mean you asked if you should hold cds so why would you hold them ^^
clever path
top log btw
That just means he got lucky and didn’t go first, holding 10 seconds is definitely correct lol
buoyant salmon
you definitely send
marsh palm
you definitely send
ye
buoyant salmon
you dont know if it costs you lust or not
marsh palm
That just means he got lucky and didn’t go first, holding 10 seconds is definite...
its 22 seconds
before the first adds
buoyant salmon
i mean avatar
clever path
Ok
restive peak
Yeah you're not holding
buoyant salmon
on a boss with adds that mattered you could make an argument for holding cds
restive peak
Get out of the pad mindset if you're trying to be competitive, if you really care about padding and hurting your team you can do it the other way
buoyant salmon
but that bosses adds do not matter and wont matter at all ever
restive peak
But you're inting
clever path
You realize you know long before the adds actually spawn if it’s on your side or not right?
restive peak
We also get OF+Bs during them regardless
marsh palm
You realize you know long before the adds actually spawn if it’s on your side or...
he does the first cast after 22s
restive peak
You're not holding your CDs for 22s if you care about genuine performance, and your teams prog
clever path
If it doesn’t cost you a use
You’re a fucking warrior it’s your job to kill adds lol
What is this
buoyant salmon
you dont know if it costs you a use or not
clever path
It’s not pads they literally have to die
buoyant salmon
and those adds dont matter
restive peak
You're on a 20-30 man team, it's not your job to do anything solo
They die regardless, without CDs, and boss damage matters more
And like I said, if you're playing properly you'll get OF+BS during anyway
clever path
🫡
marsh palm
i mean there are always no more than 5 targets so you can cleave normaly
signal gyro
For other classes that are nowhere near as good as fury is for add clear, you should absolutely be the prio on ads
restive peak
You realize there are several classes now who are also on adds, and those adds die regardless
sullen dove
socket only worth like 2.5k dps or so it seems
restive peak
You put damage where it's most important, which on about 90% of fights is the boss
Ye it's minimal, might be a bit higher if you lack your 4th gem with blasph gem
But once you have 5 sockets, they're super minor this tier
marsh palm
Ye it's minimal, might be a bit higher if you lack your 4th gem with blasph gem
would you suggest to craft a weapon now btw? cause it actually doesnt matter if you get a other weapon in vault or next clear or?
signal gyro
Then you should only run a ST build for every fight besides court according to just doing boss damage with that logic
marsh palm
Then you should only run a ST build for every fight besides court according to j...
the difference is not that high with spear build btw
sullen dove
fury just having whirlwind existing is already better than like 80% of most other classes doing aoe
regal storm
Practice makes perfect? 
restive peak
I think not crafting wep is inting, and my reasons are a few; 1. Free upgrade once you send at 636 on your 2nd wep next week, which saves stones 2. It's the biggest single DPS increase both because of the wep dmg and ascendance 3. By the time you'd potentially want duskweave for certain content, you'll have enough sparks anyway
buoyant salmon
Then you should only run a ST build for every fight besides court according to j...
you run a st boss with just whirldwind talents and of for must bosses
you can argue you dont even need of for like half of them
clever path
You put damage where it's most important, which on about 90% of fights is the bo...
Then play arms lol
buoyant salmon
arms and fury do basically the same st
restive peak
You guys don't understand the game like you think you do, and that's cool, but an attitude of wanting to learn is probably a better approach
clever path
They sim the same single target. Boss dam logs are not close.
restive peak
You're not smarter than math, or Liquid/Echo, and there's a reason they're running what they run
marsh palm
They sim the same single target. Boss dam logs are not close.
your just a padder
clever path
You’re right, we’re not smarter than math
restive peak
We lose the least ST when swapping to AOE
Which is why our job is to maximize boss dam while still being able to AOE, not to save shit for AOE phases and do garbage boss damage
clever path
I can’t lol
regal storm
You guys don't understand the game like you think you do, and that's cool, but a...
Says the guy who thinks it’s fucking stupid to practice running heroic lockouts
sullen dove
xdd
restive peak
Are you conflating running the same extremely simple boss over and over
clever path
Which is why our job is to maximize boss dam while still being able to AOE, not ...
There are no aoe phases. You said send every thing on boss always
restive peak
With understanding the mechanisms of DPS roles/importance of prio in the game as a whole?
sullen dove
correct
restive peak
There are AOE phases, you're just not supposed to int the boss damage to improve add killing
young swan
low tier bait
sullen dove
bate
restive peak
He's just extremely unintelligent, or trolling
sullen dove
got got
sullen dove
L xan
regal storm
WW is a st dps loss, dont aoe ever.
sullen dove
sorry...
young swan
i corrected so quickly
sullen dove
tru
clever path
That’s a single target loss tho
young swan
<5%
restive peak
It's a few % loss
young swan
stop being dense
restive peak
Your idea is about a 30% ST loss
Use your brain a bit, it'll make your whole life easier, not just these conversations.
clever path
Holding for 12 seconds and losing 0 casts= 30% loss
You are smarter than math
I thought it not possible, but here we are
buoyant salmon
prove you lose 0 casts
restive peak
You know, I don't like being rude to the less fortunate, so you go do you booboo, we're all supporting you.
clever path
prove you lose 0 casts
There’s 1000s of logs you can see kill times lol
marsh palm
Use your brain a bit, it'll make your whole life easier, not just these conversa...
but if you have a crafted high lvl weapon the other weapon is only valorstones free and not crests right ^^
restive peak
but if you have a crafted high lvl weapon the other weapon is only valorstones f...
Yes
Wait, confusion.
You don't have to spend crests on the second, just stones.
buoyant salmon
There’s 1000s of logs you can see kill times lol
heroic farm
clever path
You know, I don't like being rude to the less fortunate, so you go do you booboo...
That’s ironic from a guy with a topless selfie as his PFP lmfao
lusty jungle
sacbrood? ❌
kiss of death + skarmorak double on use? ✅
restive peak
You will have to use your first 90 mythic crests on the 636
restive peak
That’s ironic from a guy with a topless selfie as his PFP lmfao
If you use it for where I think you're going, you have to pay. Ain't no free rides here friend.
sullen dove
fury big of proprietors
clever path
If you use it for where I think you're going, you have to pay. Ain't no free rid...
You’re confused, again
buoyant salmon
my pfp is a baby doing crack
restive peak
Dude, we love crack
dapper goblet
mod swordish
sullen dove
mod swordish
restive peak
I might graduate from monsters to crack
signal gyro
sacbrood? ❌
kiss of death + skarmorak double on use? ✅
Getting stunned for 5 seconds because you forget to re-press the trinket ☑️
clever path
if we arent talking about mythic
Now thats a reasonable take
lusty jungle
Getting stunned for 5 seconds because you forget to re-press the trinket ☑️
even weakauras cant save me bro
buoyant salmon
I might graduate from monsters to crack
insane graduation
homie going from preschool to harvard
god bless
restive peak
Anyone else ever notice Xeos is drawn to chaos?
sullen dove
was that the wrong reply lul
agile crystal
what would be the best talent to swap out to get onslaught on the m+ build (wowhead). i rly wanna have that spell
sullen dove
xeos is chaos incarnate
restive peak
homie going from preschool to harvard
We ball bro
signal gyro
even weakauras cant save me bro
Nothing like explaining to your Raid lead that you died to a trinket
sullen dove
what would be the best talent to swap out to get onslaught on the m+ build (wowh...
not a lot, i mean if u have the point under OF you can do that
whole zephyr
but if you have a crafted high lvl weapon the other weapon is only valorstones f...
You’re still losing 4 heroic upgrades since you are crafting a 636 on Tuesday. If you just wait until then you can upgrade the other weapon for valorstones and still have the 60 crests for heroic upgrades
restive peak
90 for heroic*
agile crystal
not a lot, i mean if u have the point under OF you can do that
yea i use that one, i love it since it gives the +4 ww stacks :/
restive peak
Technically 180 next week, which will be noice
sullen dove
yea i mean the 4 stacks is like "nice" but its not really necessary
just saves hitting ww like twice
restive peak
WW during charge = fixed
sullen dove
but anything else is usually worse
sullen dove
signal gyro
Go arms, hit cleave unga bunga
restive peak
We can't really help you if you're freestylin bruh, I say that with love lol
Things synergize for a reason
marsh palm
You’re still losing 4 heroic upgrades since you are crafting a 636 on Tuesday. I...
ahh thats true
agile crystal
yea i know lmao. i can't have my cake and eat it too xd
marsh palm
You’re still losing 4 heroic upgrades since you are crafting a 636 on Tuesday. I...
so just insta spam 9m+ dungeon craft weapon easy go xd
restive peak
You just make the 606 w ascend this week, and up it straight to 636 Tues when you get mythic crests
wanton mirage
restive peak
But yeah sending for 619 this week is troll
wanton mirage
i guess i craft wep 606 too
marsh palm
But yeah sending for 619 this week is troll
ye i have a hc helmet and shoulders
signal gyro
Just do delves and get a heroic weapon
marsh palm
upgrade these than
restive peak
Wait til this week
Wait til vault, and heroic reclear
Then send all your crests where you don't get upgrades
I have heroic chest/helm too, sitting on them to see what drops
A few days of patience leads to a much higher ilvl a lot of the time
marsh palm
I have heroic chest/helm too, sitting on them to see what drops
yee but i have them as a tier
lusty jungle
craft pvp wep with ascendancy you use it in pvp anyway once you replace it for pve
restive peak
It feels like shit to wait, but it's worth
marsh palm
so i will def wearing tham i think
agile crystal
does anyone have any experience swapping ur movement keys to ESDF, and have any success? ive tried for like 2 days and my hands cramp like hell and i hate it
restive peak
You could get better statted 616 items that give a bigger DPS increase to 626 1st
marsh palm
Yes, but what if you get 2 BIS trinkets?
yee but didnt you get enough crests next week aswell
to upgrade like big stuff
restive peak
You'll be able to upgrade like 4 items
But let's say you get BIS chest/legs/trinkets
And now you've sent on your 2 worst pieces
For example helm is good for now to rush 4p, but it's the 1 we want to drop later
So upgrading that last, since it's likely your worst "stat budget" for now, is the smarter play
You can sim what the best upgrades are on raidbots once you have all your crests/vault loot etc
marsh palm
For example helm is good for now to rush 4p, but it's the 1 we want to drop late...
thats why it hurted that much to catalyst it this week
with bis stats xd
restive peak
The BIS overall profile just favours an off tier helm
It's not for sure, but it's likely you won't need a super high haste/low vers item
viral jasper
bruh im already at 30% haste with oil on lol
restive peak
By the time you're full 626 etc
It may end up being the play pre mythic, but it's better to just wait and see on vault and 1 more clear, then before mythic send all your crests at once on biggest upgrades
marsh palm
By the time you're full 626 etc
but you can use all your carved this week right
restive peak
Oh yeah
sudden tusk
they nerfed brann again
restive peak
Send all carved/weathered
sudden tusk
im about to send a glitter bomb
restive peak
Brann down bad dude
marsh palm
i cba this weapons xd
restive peak
Yeah see I see no reason for you not to craft the 606 ascend wep rn
Unless you're gonna natty get 2 mythic weps and go for duskweave, but that's not the biggest upgrade for the foreseeable future
And by the time you do have 2 mythic weps from sources, you'll have 2 more crafts you could send on duskweave
Your weps will cost you the crests regardless, because you're always gonna upgrade weps before wasting your time making duskweave 636
marsh palm
And by the time you do have 2 mythic weps from sources, you'll have 2 more craft...
maybe when my guild is not stoping from progress cause they are all boosters and its only a 1day guild xd
restive peak
Duskweave from 606>636 isn't even a massive DPS increase
Yeah so wep is best for you
signal gyro
I thought duskweave didn't increase with ilvl, it was just flat
restive peak
Exactly why there's no point in holding for it rn
It's not gonna be better on M+/mythic prog early
You're gonna drop below 80% a lot, and for longer time periods
buoyant salmon
1 day guild is insane
restive peak
But a 636 wep is the highest single DPS increase in the game
buoyant salmon
how do you even prog
marsh palm
how do you even prog
they all have main guilds
buoyant salmon
reclear have an hour and a half left in the day get like maybe 10 pulls in gg
marsh palm
its just a raid project with alts from main raiders
70% of them have like ce every season
so maybe we can kill some shit
marsh palm
Exactly why there's no point in holding for it rn
so duskweave only better when you got 2 max lvl weapons?
restive peak
Duskweave isn't better for raid
Just potentially M+
But I still believe higher M+ will favour ascend due to long fight times and chain pulling
buoyant salmon
embellishments hardly matter
late oracle
Is Bloodbath prio over over CB? This guy has #1 parse on Ulgrax and seems to be going BB over CB:
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/9Lr2wcfPJxMXTtGQ#fight=30&type=casts&source=8
I thought it was the other way around
restive peak
2% if duskweave has high uptime
wanton mirage
guys should i use befouler syringe? got a champion one
late oracle
He prios it in opener
buoyant salmon
he OMEGA padded
restive peak
He's doing sales and running like 10x so he's just trying to r1 parse
buoyant salmon
He prios it in opener
mistake
restive peak
Ye that's not intended
marsh palm
2% if duskweave has high uptime
so most guys will anyways play asendence cause they dont recraft all the time for raid
i guess
late oracle
hm...I'm still not loving my parses, not sure what I'm doing wrong
marsh palm
hm...I'm still not loving my parses, not sure what I'm doing wrong
most of the big parses have 4 set ^^
late oracle
Thought 4set was only like 3%/
restive peak
Heroic week 1 parses mean legit nothing
spare steppe
I hate that the embellishments were choosing from feel so meh
late oracle
well, fair
restive peak
There are people giga padding and actually playing worse in a team sense
marsh palm
Thought 4set was only like 3%/
yeah but check some of them they have big gear, sometimes pi
all that shit
spare steppe
Both ascendance and duskweave are just boring and frustrating
restive peak
Embellishs can die as far as I'm concerned
marsh palm
I wish crafted gear was just gear
true
meager gyro
I started heroic at 589, ended at 601 I refuse to even look at my parses 
indigo arch
Remember stuff like when prot warrs in h icc used pillar of might at 264 ilvl over 277 h santified ymijar because pillars had green armor stat?
Pepperidge farm remembers.
marsh palm
I started heroic at 589, ended at 601 I refuse to even look at my parses <:critc...
my hc logs are also really bad but it was first kill logs
so i cba
indigo arch
THAT'S what I want crafteds to be, simply targetting stats and nothing else, fk embels
restive peak
I mean a lot of us ran on chars that didn't equip gear, and our 1 main that did didn't equip it til after clear
buoyant salmon
embellishments are cool idk
indigo arch
or shit like the old sunwell goggles
restive peak
And then you have people going in post gear and just rerunning to parse, and they're OBVIOUSLY gonna smash 595-600 ilvl people once they're 610-612
indigo arch
profs used to be more than just a vehicle for how to get embel
meager gyro
I was under the impression we can’t sim dusk and dawn weave correctly because of the tooltip, but they are around a 2% gain so it could be working @restive peak
restive peak
Yeah they're a 2% increase in AOE
With good uptime
The problem is when progging, either M+ or raid, you won't maintain it, and also a 636 wep is more than 2% on its own
marsh palm
but they are always not that good in st right?
restive peak
By the time we get to where you might want those for M+, you'll have 2 more sparks
Yeah it's not better for ST
meager gyro
Tooltip just showed a 60 crit or vers value so scared me
restive peak
There may be farm logs late season where people run 2 639s + duskweave because bosses die quick and they don't drop below 80 anymore
spare steppe
Ascendance is just beyond shit in m+
restive peak
But that's a problem for 3-4 months from now
buoyant salmon
tooltips suck in wow
marsh palm
Yeah it's not better for ST
aoe was never a problem in M+ actually so im gonna min max my ST
restive peak
And by then everyone will have all of it
restive peak
Ascendance is just beyond shit in m+
It's shit if you're slow
restive peak
It's amazing in high keys where you chain pull and boss fights last 4-6mins
You have to remember this season is perma tyrann
You will be spending half the timer on bosses
marsh palm
i dont wanna spend 5m on ara kara last boss xd
restive peak
Yeeeep
Some of these bosses will be WILD
At like a 17, imagine that boss
Or the 1st mists boss
All of stonevault bosses
It's gonna be a wild season
meager gyro
i dont wanna spend 5m on ara kara last boss xd
Healing has to insane this season or the group dies. Surely they tune this shit first week 
indigo arch
imagine the big adds before last boss grim batol on fort when typical lfg players get a beam
instaflop
all day
graceful crow
should i even bother tracking bloodcraze talent?
restive peak
Yes if you're minmaxing, but no if you're not goin for R1 parses and trying to be giga perfect
It's a very minor optimization
graceful crow
Yes if you're minmaxing, but no if you're not goin for R1 parses and trying to b...
woookie thenks boss
restive peak
No stress broheemian rhapsody
marsh palm
No stress broheemian rhapsody
i checked your gear also crazyyy
restive peak
I had awful gear man
marsh palm
a lot of gold for boes
restive peak
I got 3 normal items in my split, we had no zenith/weps drop in my run
Nah got em for 1.1mil for both, ez
indigo arch
speaking of mists, I rly dont wanna do high lvl of that last boss again
verbal rivet
So is stressing over parses worth it??? Was 4th highest DPS when guild just cleared normal.
indigo arch
10m boss nty
marsh palm
also now weapons for me
marsh palm
Nah got em for 1.1mil for both, ez
i forgot that you can buy shit now on any realm
restive peak
If you find parse chasing fun, sure, if you're consistently below 85-90 you have some rotational issues
warped hamlet
Hello everyone! Quick quesdtion: why does the fury warrior guide on wowhead.com recomments Mountain Thane for Delves?
restive peak
But anything 85/90+ is extremely good, and at the mercy of kill times/mechanic RNG/general RNG
Ye I used paytowin then grabbed it haha
Then warbanked it
That site is goat'd
indigo arch
the real move is going prot with rage idol brann and pulling all of narnia and rezzing them when they die to the selfdot
verbal rivet
But anything 85/90+ is extremely good, and at the mercy of kill times/mechanic R...
Aight, have some work then lmao. Got like 35% on Queen bc I hadn’t seen the fight before and we did it in like 5 pulls.
graceful crow
correct me if im wrong wasnt bloodcraze the set piece for wrrrior in s3 shadowlands and it was tied to rampage for the crit buff not raging blow?
marsh palm
nerf enhancer dunnoo
restive peak
Don't worry about parsing on 1st kills
graceful crow
nerf enhancer dunnoo
they are getting nerfed for like 9% xD
restive peak
Getting the kill matters, you can learn and optimize later
But you should read the guide and practice the rotation until it feels natural
marsh palm
they are getting nerfed for like 9% xD
i hope so xd (nvm i dont want bad karma)
restive peak
If you get the rotation down consistently, you'll jump drastically on parses
indigo arch
enhance is historically dogshit, let them have something for once 
restive peak
Enhance been a pumper for awhile
marsh palm
enhance is historically dogshit, let them have something for once <:sadge:820202...
bro ik an enhancer who got 99s and 100s every tier with rotation helper
i cant
verbal rivet
I think I know where the issue was at. I’m coming to wow since not really playing since early Shadowlands. Pretty sure I’m just mentally prioritizing bloodthirst more than I should.
wispy mural
man I must be stupid, I cannot figure out how to get the last half of this spark. I read somewhere delves in the spider area, but I don't see any quest for that. someone told me 10 world quests but that just says rep
civic echo
is there any downside to macroing charge into recklessness
restive peak
If you ever wanna charge without popping reck lol
buoyant salmon
thats such an insane keybind to try to save
fringe vale
yo do we gop double depth or depth + radiance
summer crater
But anything 85/90+ is extremely good, and at the mercy of kill times/mechanic R...
Just normal though
summer crater
yo do we gop double depth or depth + radiance
Double
marsh palm
Just normal though
big
summer crater
Depth does insane damage on ST especially
restive peak
Atta boi
summer crater
how much dmg was it?
marsh palm
thats nice
pearl sequoia
mmmm silken court juice
marsh palm
i hate the boss fight tbh
exotic glacier
I started heroic at 589, ended at 601 I refuse to even look at my parses <:critc...
all while SMF? because thats what really matters.
pearl sequoia
Isnt parse for ilvl just better to gauage in that scenario
summer crater
491.91m damage
marsh palm
Do you guys also love princess fight on hc?
fringe vale
44k depth q3
marsh palm
its real talk the best fight ever
finite nimbus
can someone explain to me why some people are doing a double bloodthirst before odyn's fury after roar -> bladestorm opener in logs? is it the unhinged talent?
compact knot
Do you guys also love princess fight on hc?
so far its my favorite boss
the mechanics are fun and look good
marsh palm
the mechanics are fun and look good
yee like the blade stuff and shit
compact knot
and if tuned well on mythic it could geniuenly be like top tier boss if its a super hard dps check imo
marsh palm
and if tuned well on mythic it could geniuenly be like top tier boss if its a su...
yeee
but she gives crazy loot aswell for some classes ^^
compact knot
honestly most of the fights in this raid are good
marsh palm
im just wondering why 2 boss is way harder than 3th and 4th xd
people just take tons of dmg
exotic glacier
3th!
compact knot
2nd boss has some rng with the spawns
compact knot
^
marsh palm
yeah but 3th boss on hc is easy af
young swan
3th
willow knoll
guys what is the opener for aoe?
restive peak
(it's 3rd friend)
exotic glacier
(it's 3rd friend)
Don’t ruin my fun
marsh palm
Don’t ruin my fun
3th xd
compact knot
reck charge avatar troar bladestorm
exotic glacier
3th is the only part of that convo I can participate in.
willow knoll
reck charge rampage avatar roar bladestmr?
restive peak
Reck charge ava ramp roar storm
last junco
are there any fights that you would hold cds for for funny numbers
willow knoll
Reck charge ava ramp roar storm
no rampage to enrage?
compact knot
avatar enrages you
willow knoll
The 4th word in that
sry im blind
exotic glacier
You expect people to read 4 words? I stop after the 3th
restive peak
Lmfao
exotic glacier
God bless this community
restive peak
Also we're gonna be dropping TR probably
exotic glacier
We already do in ST?
willow knoll
i can use this macro or is bad?
restive peak
And Kha said avatar enrages you
He's right rn, but we'll be dropping TR
Yeah I use that, but have reck/roar on separate keybinds too
exotic glacier
Ah. Yes the ole TR AoE angle
compact knot
He's right rn, but we'll be dropping TR
wait why would we drop this on aoe btw?
exotic glacier
Honestly, what 1 point is worth the comfy-ness
compact knot
maybe im big noob but it seems hella strong
restive peak
Because the dmg is very minimal, it's basically just a QOL button
willow knoll
Yeah I use that, but have reck/roar on separate keybinds too
i do that to
thanks lincc.
restive peak
Np my dude
exotic glacier
Because the dmg is very minimal, it's basically just a QOL button
You monsters always stealing my qol for dps
restive peak
As content gets higher, VC gains value; I'll be dropping TR for 1 VC in AOE
graceful crow
anyone have WA crit tracker for bloodthirst?
restive peak
Mines just built in
exotic glacier
Mine is just pressing the button and praying.
restive peak
Pretty sure that's a tank trinket bro
slim grotto
What dps are you guys pulling ST ~600ilv?
hardy cargo
at 606 im just barely over 1m, but that also includes embellishment and double depths wep enchant
restive peak
609.3, 1.15mil
slim grotto
Are you guys running the ST slayer build on wowhead?
slim grotto
I'm struggling to push over 500k
delicate yacht
Raid buffs , lust , full consumables,
slim grotto
Maybe I'm missing something key with the rotation. I have no issues pumping m0 and cleave fights
delicate yacht
500k on what ilvl and against which nerubar boss? Sim is theoretical maximum a robot can do
scarlet coral
609.3, 1.15mil
Hello guys,
Like 1.15 constant on a dummy ?
hardy cargo
thats his sim brother
scarlet coral
ah okay !
slim grotto
500k on what ilvl and against which nerubar boss? Sim is theoretical maximum a r...
Heroic Ulgrax @ 600il
delicate yacht
Ulgrax isn't a good indication of your st dps. Half the fight is intermission and some aoe
What are you doing on sikran?
There's basically no downtime or movement
buoyant salmon
What are you doing on sikran?
your mom
slim grotto
Will update you in a few then
deep stone
This season is kinda aids for melee?
restive peak
Melee is dominating wut
Even on beta, up until the end, a lot of groups were fury/rogue/enh enh/dk/lock etc
deep stone
I mean the dungeons are pretty punishing
marsh palm
I can maintain 910ish at this point on a dummy
how xd
willow cradle
press button real good
marsh palm
i sim with full buffs 608.5 825k
restive peak
And by a bit I mean a lot
molten wing
i got the most i can get out of delves on my warrior in terms of items but i still have 3-4 keys left , do i keep them for next week or just send them for a chance of th map
marsh palm
That’s super low
let me check my sim settings again maybe xd
tribal flint
Unless that’s dummy sim
molten wing
not sure if there is a cap
slim grotto
My sim is showing 913k
dusky moon
slim grotto
Are you guys using WA to track 3x execution?
molten wing
Are you guys using WA to track 3x execution?
i just made a WA that plays a "BAM" sound or whatever you can chose when the target has 3x stacks of it
restive peak
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/449080055893590017/1284730302626791508/GS...
Tuesday?
marsh palm
My sim is showing 913k
can you post your gear?
restive peak
I sim for 1.15mil w buffs etc, I sim for 845 with nothing, so this boss dummy in dorn must have low armor or something
Because I can maintain over 900
buoyant salmon
vc
marsh palm
I sim for 1.15mil w buffs etc, I sim for 845 with nothing, so this boss dummy in...
for me you sim 914k
how can i sim 80k lower xd
slim grotto
can you post your gear?
I have peasant enchants don't judge
restive peak
Not 5
buoyant salmon
aoe build
restive peak
Swap to 5m homie and that's my AOE build
delicate yacht
that sim is not correct
wind torrent
molten wing
insane gain from the 4set 
restive peak
Ignore the gem changes, they're just where the sim fell but they're the same gems as now
It's just adding ST build
marsh palm
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/1nZ984J3E9E5BJvRyPzMf6
but thats will full r3 Consumables?
restive peak
Ofc, why wouldn't I use r3 in raid?
marsh palm
so flask and pots?
restive peak
Yes
And it's 844 with everything turned off fully
As in no buffs, no flask, no wep oils etc
You will never reach your buffed sim without buffs lol
merry arch
So i need you noooooooow
slim grotto
i just made a WA that plays a "BAM" sound or whatever you can chose when the t...
Are you tracking when to BB vs BR based on rage?
molten wing
nah
marsh palm
And it's 844 with everything turned off fully
okay shows 804 for me without anything
yeah the 606 crafted weapon would do a lot ^^
marsh palm
then you have different trinkets and weapons than lincc
yee that aswell
got the shit Void Pactstone
delicate yacht
then what's the issue? the sim shows your theoretical maximums in a vacuum
marsh palm
but ara kara other
scarlet coral
I saw that some of you really dont like the trinket Shadow-Binding Ritual Knife,
I did some sim craft with RaidBot, doing the comparison with this one, sac, shard and Khardros,
And it always wanna go for the ritual knife,
Is there a particular reason to not go for it anyway ?
delicate yacht
is this post or pre nerf, i don't use my knife because the thought of it reducing my mastery during my burst window is cringe
restive peak
Who doesn't like the knife?
I used it on my 3rd split char and it pumped
The loss is extremely rare
delicate yacht
what's its proc rate on a 5 min fight ?
scarlet coral
Who doesn't like the knife?
Ah ok because i saw a post of you saying it was disgusting xD but maybe you were replying to someone else
Ok thanks guys
molten wing
yeah its good i was actually checking the item restoration to see if i deleted it earlier
scarlet coral
Ah okayy hahaha
delicate yacht
i have shard, knife, and sac brood, and they all seem near each other, even though brood is much lower in ilvl
scarlet coral
So the sim is always right
marsh palm
For me the strongest dungeon trinket is Oppressive Orator's Larynx on 606
delicate yacht
I also have this which could be bugged, i dont find it always even activates
strange dove
I got hyped for this...
realized, I think losing the 2700 str is just straight bad...has anyone heard anything about this with the nature damage embelishment maybe?
junior gale
strange dove
I did, are sims correct for this? it is a weird effect
junior gale
yes they are correct
molten wing
i'm using it its decent
probably use it on ST bosses
since losing the strenght sucks even more in aoe
i've also seen it apply the dot to multipl targets with WW
in aoe so who knows might be decent there too but in aoe sims the strenght weapons are like 2% better from what i remember
junior gale
dont bother its not good in MT
stable frost
aotc get, imagine being top dam and still green parsing lmao
molten wing
do i just send all my delve keys to hunt for maps even though i don't need the 603 gear
or do i keep some for reset
delicate yacht
the maps dont come from keys so it's irrelevant
tardy axle
the spelunker waning candle trinket
molten wing
they come from the side chest of bountiful delve tbh yeah so i guess i can always run those without keys
tardy axle
this trinket
covert blaze
holy
tardy axle
it says like 2700 on the tooltip in game, but in raid bots it saqys 5801
covert blaze
insane screenshot
tardy axle
is raidbots trinkets like bugged?
restive peak
We cannot read that
molten wing
he is talking about this one probably
tooltip says 2.7k crit in game , but the wowhead data which the sim probably takes the data from for the trinket scales it to 5.8k
delicate yacht
the maps don't just come from bountiful delves, those are just the only ones most people are doing, that is a myth
hexed elk
here's your daily reminder to set your loot spec to arms or you can get a 1 hander off the last boss in grim batol. ask me how i know. x(
tardy axle
he is talking about this one probably
so therefore putting it into a best gear sim is literally useless and shouldnt be trusted? is there a way i can accurately sim the 603 version?
covert blaze
ignore wowhead tooltips
tardy axle
and where is that in raidbots
covert blaze
where is what
delicate yacht
there is literally no way for us to infer why you died
meager gyro
Qinjax seems to be concerned that the sim data might be inaccurate if the wowhead tooltip is wrong. So is it simming with higher crit value than what is actually in game?
unkempt galleon
i know, just agree
pale sable
Is there any difference dps wise between crafted 2h sword (claymore) and 2h axe (Greataxe)? Gear compare shows +700 for the axe vs sword
covert blaze
Qinjax seems to be concerned that the sim data might be inaccurate if the wowhea...
crit is bad
the sim should be working as intended afaik
that trinket doesnt look very good tho
regardless of the tooltip
unkempt galleon
it wasn't the soak, personals ya
covert blaze
what did you die to then
unkempt galleon
adds got me once or twice
scarlet coral
Is there any difference dps wise between crafted 2h sword (claymore) and 2h axe ...
I was wondering the same here,
I would prefer the axe for shadowmourne transmog xD
delicate yacht
the adds that spawn from green circles?
covert blaze
I was wondering the same here,
I would prefer the axe for shadowmourne transmog ...
@pale sable @scarlet coral no difference
700 dps is within margin of error/variance
pale sable
<@472327843041247252> <@223884404227833856> no difference
Ty for the answer
meager gyro
Crit is ok, and a stat SMF prefers more than you TGs, but if there’s an option to run mastery or main stat on a trinket proc, that’ll always be better. This guy has a non main stat dmg proc trinket so the sim should easily prefer the trinket in question, but it might be skewed higher or lower if the crit proc value is wrong on sim.
deep stone
<@472327843041247252> <@223884404227833856> no difference
Pretty sure it kinda does matter for pvp for example axe has higher maximum damage and sword has higher minimum dmg . So if theoretically you can hit the hardest with axe if you're lucky enough correct me if I'm wrong
deep stone
So why even make a difference lol is this a blizzard moment
storm rune
It's a remnant of days past /shrug
restive pewter
do yall hold cooldowns before aid phases in raids
or just send off cd and pray they line up
covert blaze
do yall hold cooldowns before aid phases in raids
depends on the fight and what cooldowns
storm rune
yeah big question
covert blaze
not really a yes or no question
restive pewter
ah
covert blaze
depends on your comp your kill timer etc
storm rune
Kinda
covert blaze
like
if you dont know better
just send on cd
and pay attention with experience on each fight
to figure out if it's worth if for you to hold
and if you want to pad just look at top logs ig
storm rune
lorrgs also helps as a baseline when the fight is more scripted
restive pewter
heard u
covert blaze
yeah you can look at lorrgs to see if people hold or not
but holding being good depends on a bunch of things
vocal igloo
does viciouis contempt trigger AT 35% or below 35%? how does one track it if it's in effect or not
covert blaze
like kill timer, how quickly stuff dies in your raid team, if you lose a use of the cds or not
covert blaze
does viciouis contempt trigger AT 35% or below 35%? how does one track it if it'...
below 35
storm rune
a really good example of wanting to hold CDs if the boss is about to enter exe but hasn't yet and you know you won't get another use out of them, or just any time you know you wont get another use of your abilities you can take the time to line them up with something external
broken kindle
what do you priorize for m+? CB or BB?
marsh palm
here's your daily reminder to set your loot spec to arms or you can get a 1 hand...
bro it was even more worse for me i got a 610 one hand weapon out of a map from delve 
storm rune
what do you priorize for m+? CB or BB?
BB in aoe, CB for prio or ST
and same for BT/RB
broken kindle
🫡
inner harbor
so what’s the opener, are we still doing s3 shit like charge in reck inti odin’s fury wait 4 secs into roar avatar ?
rapid igloo
crafing the charged claymore, what stats should we go for? wowhead looks like its mast/vers that correct?
meager gyro
so what’s the opener, are we still doing s3 shit like charge in reck inti odin’s...
The guides in #dps-faq links give you openers based on talents you run. Should check there for your use case.
lusty jungle
Prayge no assasinations on princess
scarlet coral
Is there any difference dps wise between crafted 2h sword (claymore) and 2h axe ...
What is insane is that the axe is almot 50% less expensive lol, less more reagent
marsh palm
The guides in <#1237303208754286715> links give you openers based on talents you...
actually wowhead links needs an update
its still for pre patch ^^
storm rune
huh they're right
Also it's kinda like S3
In aoe at least
But you use the cast time of BS to separate the application of OF dot from Avatar and the hard cast of OF
marsh palm
obv they are right
but its still not the best that they are for prepatch
maybe people wanna look for gear or anything
prisma nest
do yall hold cooldowns before aid phases in raids
Maxroll fury raid guide has a good section on basic cd usage for each boss
But like they said above a lot can vary…
storm rune
obv they are right
oh no I meant you're right that they need to be updated
marsh palm
oh no I meant you're right that they need to be updated
ah okay ^^
storm rune
https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/rotation-cooldowns-pve-dps Archi does have a rotation guide
but it's not super intuitive
idk if Maxroll has updated their rotation guide but I really liked their presentation
green shell
so i have a 603 detachable fang and a 603 shadow-knife, are those trinks bad? i dont even see them on the guide 😦
prisma nest
Shadow knife is gud
golden hare
sim it!
storm rune
Aren't those delve trinkets?
green shell
Aren't those delve trinkets?
yes
storm rune
Ah, then they're gonna be locked in to like... max champ, possibly hero if you loot it off a map
quartz tulip
how we doin out here
quartz tulip
did something change
rapid igloo
hes probably just surprised you spent that much gold so early lol
rapid igloo
for the charged claymore we want mastery/vers right?
storm rune
pve or pvp
rapid igloo
pve
storm rune
haste mast generally
rapid igloo
i assumed haste mast but on the wowhead thing it shows mast/vers
storm rune
Fuck a sim, your gear is gonna be changing every day for the next week
quartz tulip
too lazy to change it
rapid igloo
looks like mast/vers is better by 377 damage
stable frost
that sounds like within the margin of error to me
rapid igloo
Fuck a sim, your gear is gonna be changing every day for the next week
wont be changing the weapon for a while knowing my luck on getting 2 weps to drop for me lol
only reason im making a weapon
storm rune
Exactly
lone sage
people talk so much about the sac trinket, but it sims worse than the 2 i have on any situation lol
storm rune
Your other gear is going to be constantly changing, so focus on what you can control and guide your stats in the right direction
dry spire
Gear is temporary. Transmog is forever
exotic glacier
Why even sim? Gear is gonna change in S2.
exotic glacier
LF mythic raid group that does it O’natural. Gear is temporary.
eager relic
Au naturel...
ashen socket
Is there is a fury warrior that has done the let me solo her achieve?
Doesn't seem possible
and I am 609
marsh palm
any tips how to get fast valorstones (dont say dungeons pls) i dont wanna see any dungeon anymore xd
eager relic
Uhhh underground prison cells
storm rune
the world soul items from delves
Just solo I can usually farm up 3-400 using a bundle of 5
Probably a helluva lot better with a group
quartz tulip
@storm rune i used 5 echos and only got 35???
is there something i need to loot or do ?
storm rune
Weird, my strat is to kill every rare that spawns and farm mobs in the downtime
storm rune
The one from the above world area has an event that causes an explosion so you run around gathering, can get several hundred points easily
quartz tulip
wtf is even that
storm rune
Flightstones were roughly twice the coffer keys, so 3-400 stones and 150-200 key shards
Maybe they nerfed em, or maybe grouping works differently? I always solo it and get a score of like 80-160 depending on event
quartz tulip
i gues sidk what im missing once it ends to get the extra keys for spending the 5 echos
covert blaze
Is there is a fury warrior that has done the let me solo her achieve?
What is that
covert blaze
Tmy did that day one
ashen socket
on the 2nd difficulty as fury?
covert blaze
It's on YouTube
ashen socket
Could you send me the link qt?
golden hare
chat is that rizz
ashen socket
ty
marsh palm
Is there is a fury warrior that has done the let me solo her achieve?
if the title is also be let me solo her that would be crazyyyy
storm rune
A bunch of random T1s
dense shard
so i have a 603 detachable fang and a 603 shadow-knife, are those trinks bad? i ...
My 606 Fang is simming higher than Sacbrood right now 🤷♂️
covert blaze
<@235857431492558848> Do you know what curio's he is using in this?
Idk ask him
@ebon junco
ebon junco
<@235857431492558848> Do you know what curio's he is using in this?
W/e, I used the crit arrow
I think it’s still possible but hard low key @fickle bluff
Especially if you get reflects
fickle bluff
idk you and brann would just die too quickly to melees
covert blaze
chat is that rizz
ebon junco
idk you and brann would just die too quickly to melees
Put on that crazy kiting with def stance
ebon junco
Yeah I see in the video bran is pretty much tanking
Yup
fickle bluff
i tried that 
ebon junco
Mandate trinket might make it possible to kill eggs in time
safe juniper
when i hit 30% haste i should go Powerful Enrage
golden hare
<:erga:1225875048590737460>
delicate yacht
i don't think i can complain ever again my life, I joined a pug apparently that's been on broodtwister for 4 hours, we killed it on the attempt i joined, and I won both pieces of heroic tier ,
golden hare
W
dusky moon
how does it look
ashen socket
I know its not an advert discord but are there any warriors in here with mythic sacbrood already that can help do a lil funnel?
Trying to hold the highest ilvl in guild rn
Herioc sac is bringing me down
dusky moon
night wing
clever path
i'm coming back after a while. Is Hekili better to use when levelling from 70-80 and doing M+? I'm a bit slow so learning rotation fast takes a while for me
gilded pawn
Hekili is fine
rotund flume
how long do y'all hold your aoe before going ham in broodtwister add phase
i keep getting smacked by the spoders
storm rune
Sounds like free rage to me
clever belfry
get better tanks
u should wait for them to stack.
if that means smallies are dead by the time big spooder comes
tough luck
graceful frigate
Yo guys, i bet thos question has been asked a million of times, apologies. When in opening rotation and or during reck, do you prio rampage over bloodbath if crushing blow gives you enough rage?
Or is it always crushing bloodbath rampage in that order
acoustic yoke
BB
graceful frigate
Simple and effective answer. Rotation guide on wowhead made me question due to wording
empty carbon
does our rotation change at all when we get 2pc/4pc?
fickle bluff
no
empty carbon
or is it still rampage > execute > bloodthirst > kb?
clever path
Hekili is fine
Would it be viable to use in raid or mythic + keys? I would eventually want to stop using it but im not sure how different the rotation would be if i were to stop using it eventually
brittle crow
Would it be viable to use in raid or mythic + keys? I would eventually want to s...
u should strive to not use it, ideally
clever path
i want to but i keep forgetting. It visually helps me but i know in long run its not recommended
brittle crow
being able to do ur rotation by feel and know why ur pressing things instead of just playing rotation whack a mole is a huge mental relief imo
storm rune
Yo guys, i bet thos question has been asked a million of times, apologies. When ...
It is technically a minute DPS gain to 1. Prio ramp over BB in ST when BB will overcap your rage 2. Prio ramp when Opportunist procs to further buff CB instead of using it on a standard RB
and by minute it's like 5ish-k DPS
until you hit 35% for the first point
graceful frigate
Ait thanks. Tracking opportunist by just the standard glow isnt doing it for me
So gotta make sure a wa gives me a decent headsup
gilded pawn
Would it be viable to use in raid or mythic + keys? I would eventually want to s...
People have gotten hall of fame with it, it’s probably better to not use it but there’s nothing wrong with using it and won’t impede you in any way
graceful frigate
until you hit 35% for the first point
Makes sense
Holding back raging blow with opportunist when building for rampage also is not in my system yet
storm rune
oh you don't prio holding it until you can ramp
It's just a case of if you can ramp while opportunist procs
but you're in that middle ground of like 80-110 rage
hardy cargo
its just instead of going to 110 rage with rb before ramp you just press and get the opportunist for CB
graceful frigate
It's just a case of if you *can* ramp while opportunist procs
This is what i meant
storm rune
ah very good
plucky hill
you guys waiting with the sparks or already invested?
brittle crow
Ait thanks. Tracking opportunist by just the standard glow isnt doing it for me
i find it easier to just keep track of ur rb stacks which u should likely do anyways
if u press rb and u dont consume a charge, u have opportunist gg
fervent yoke
you guys waiting with the sparks or already invested?
I used my two but idk if I should have lol
clever belfry
they stack together
safe juniper
ok so ideally you want 2
clever belfry
for ST, yes
safe juniper
what do you want aoe
clever belfry
radiant
safe juniper
double radiant ?
vital sonnet
how should i be dealing with cd desync?
like for example with bs cdr
just send bs on cd? or align with cds
in a m+ scenario
safe juniper
i think you jus send it
vital sonnet
fair
pearl sequoia
ive heard if its more then 10 seconds send it
safe juniper
iff you good with procs usually aligns with OF
charred drum
Since we don't play with anger management reck and avatar have the same cd is there any reason to not macro them together ?
clever belfry
you can macro reck into ava, but not ava into reck
optimally you wanna reck charge
slate light
you can macro reck into ava, but not ava into reck
you can do both its just not smart, you wanna pop reck first always
clever belfry
and whenever you play with titans torment that is uh.. pressing ava before charge is not hot.
when you use titans torment + titanic rage i wouldnt even bother reck charging tho tbf. Can just macro it in that case.
clever belfry
you can do both its just not smart, you wanna pop reck first always
good thing macros follow an order
scarlet lake
Do i pack the higher itemlevel weapon in mainhand ?
slate light
yes
scarlet lake
thanks
oblique trail
good thing macros follow an order
Supposedly it doesn't matter anymore which you put first in the reck + ava macro
Would need to go on pc to quadruple check, but when I looked last night they both went off the exact same millisecond
clever belfry
but does this always trigger extra rage from ava on use
oblique trail
I can go test this but it should
clever belfry
commence forth
rich rock
weightstones or oils?
clever belfry
but yes macro abilities should fire same gametick
clever belfry
weightstones or oils?
samesame, buy whats cheaper
rich rock
kk
whole wigeon
sims seems to rate 603 detatchable fang higher than 593 skarmorak shard, im assuming its down to the fact its got a big load of raw strength on it?
oblique trail
commence forth
It seemingly did not. Only got 60 rage when Avatar is first in the order
Tho in practice it still doesn't make a diffie since charge gives you the remaining 20 rage
clever belfry
huh
why would ahving ava first give the extra rage
thats a bit fucking dented
with what torment is this, zerker?
oblique trail
Yes
clever belfry
sick game
brittle crow
i read "zerker" and i had ptsd to for honor berserker
nocturne dragon
for ST, yes
what about for MT?
brittle crow
i think i need to go to sleep its 5am
stable hatch
yo is 2h crafted sword and 2h crafted axe the same?
clever belfry
what about for MT?
read 2 messages below that
clever belfry
yo is 2h crafted sword and 2h crafted axe the same?
and the mace too! yes.
nocturne dragon
ah ok phone based earlier a bit limited screen, got it thx.
oblique trail
Yeah no the order definitely still matters in the macro
nocturne dragon
For radiant The temporarily increase primary stat, how long is the duration?
clever belfry
😎
stiff barn
For radiant The temporarily increase primary stat, how long is the duration?
Think it's like over 10sec
slate light
(axe should be cheaper to craft)
yea craft axe everybody (i am axe crafter)
stiff barn
Not quite sure, but decent amount
signal gyro
If we get 2 hero weapons we should just go for the vers embellish I imagine right?
brittle crow
idk who decided "creamy" should be a valid descriptor of how a keyboard sounds but they need to stop
perhaps be punished with jailtime
calm quartz
Me when I see queen ansureks dump truck
runic cypress
Me when I see queen ansureks dump truck
clever belfry
Me when I see queen ansureks dump truck
get a grip
plucky hill
606er craft or wait until you have 45 caches?
lost charm
are there any brann op traits? didnt lead a grp yet
plucky hill
or farm 45 via delvs
oblique trail
606er craft or wait until you have 45 caches?
You can craft 606 if you want, but not recommended to use a 619 Crest on it since you can just straight upgrade items to 636 next week
rotund ginkgo
idk who decided "creamy" should be a valid descriptor of how a keyboard sounds b...
Mine is creamy
:3
oblique trail
Making the 619 crest a waste of 45 heroic crests
rotund ginkgo
It's silent creamy
plucky hill
so if I already have 2x 606 weapons I just wait for craft?
brittle crow
u know who else is silent creamy
foggy urchin
It's silent creamy
plucky hill
or do cloak
oblique trail
so if I already have 2x 606 weapons I just wait for craft?
I would do this, yes
rotund ginkgo
No :3
oblique trail
Just hold your spark till when you get enough to craft a 636 item
rotund ginkgo
u know who else is silent creamy
U with me
plucky hill
ok
oblique trail
(assuming you will in the next reset)
rotund ginkgo
Just hold your spark till when you get enough to craft a 636 item
I already crafted a 606 am I cooked
oblique trail
no
rotund ginkgo
Ty
oblique trail
you are if you used HC crests though
rotund ginkgo
Baseline 606
oblique trail
goodbye money
rotund ginkgo
We did a boost so I had some spare change
oblique trail
R5 sword was like 30k more gold than axe last I looked
rotund ginkgo
Was it? Lul
oblique trail
At least before conc
lost charm
does anyone know where i can skip the maxlvl campaign?
narrow tide
oblique trail
No
keen nimbus
Alright i got something odd
had anyone else had this before
the system auto passes on everything that drops in a raid
i cant even select need or greed
quartz tulip
whats the fastest way to get coffer keys the radiant echo stuff?
is that the only way
golden hare
i cant even select need or greed
elvui auto pass?
keen nimbus
i dont use elvui
sage cloak
Does anyone know the big different in dps from these 2 talents? I know some prefer right talent and some left
keen nimbus
so im clueless
golden hare
idk i'm lost too then
keen nimbus
im hoping to find an answer
golden hare
ggykw
keen nimbus
fck man
frank plover
i dont use elvui
Rc loot council or similar?
signal gyro
Does anyone know the big different in dps from these 2 talents? I know some pref...
do a sim of your gear with both and see
tardy axle
if i do depths chant R3 on 1 weapon and R2 on the other, will it grief the rank 3 with rank 2 damage?
sage cloak
do a sim of your gear with both and see
Thank u! Just did seems like right talent is a 37k dps increase
wary lion
my sim tells me avatar before reck but wasnt it the other way around in the past? what changed?
gleaming siren
@oblique trail have you ever thought about the Earthen racial that gives armor? Maybe it is really good when combined with Armored to the Teeth?
tender seal
Does anyone know the big different in dps from these 2 talents? I know some pref...
Very easy to sim the difference. For me in every singletarget so far, the difference has been very very small
clever belfry
<@102464908976730112> have you ever thought about the Earthen racial that gives ...
I believe this could be relevant, anyone tested this yet??
sage cloak
Very easy to sim the difference. For me in every singletarget so far, the differ...
Aight thank u!
gleaming siren
I believe this could be relevant, anyone tested this yet??
Am I the first one?
trail bane
No
noble yew
for those of u that crafted 610 gear with the pvp quest. what pieces did u go for
trail bane
bracers cloak ring (those were my worst pieces)
if you are ok with doing a bunch of pvp to farm honor then belt and bracers are really good slots since you can put a socket on them
noble yew
thinking helm and hands
clever belfry
Am I the first one?
I think so! Let us test it
safe wolf
What y'all rolling in M+ rn? Slayer or mountain thane? Feel like the slayer talents dont really benefit aoe at all feels really lackluster and unfun.
"i get to execute now" - ok.
keep in mind, lvl 78
signal gyro
M Thane for me just feels real nice in M+ right now
safe wolf
Just my opinion rn
I'll give it a go, this slayer shit has been really mid
the wowhead leaned towards recommending it and it was the current raiding hero talent so I went for it
plucky wedge
treacherous transmitter anyone got a wa for this
terse meadow
any thoughts about talent changes with the upcoming nerfs on bladestorm and odyns ?
tardy axle
nope
balmy socket
guys 1 question, is there a weakaura or something what does a sound whenever i have 3 marks of execution on the target?
delicate thicket
I'll give it a go, this slayer shit has been really mid
more bladestorm. random aoe proc from bloodthirst as well
vapid tiger
Do you know how to manipulate weak auras a little? You can change it pretty easy to just make a sound for hitting 3 stacks. It already has the trigger in there to make a sound just not the one you are asking for
gloomy lynx
gleaming siren
any thoughts about talent changes with the upcoming nerfs on bladestorm and odyn...
Noticable but not enough to not make Fury eliminate many men at once
balmy socket
https://wago.io/r3yFgU_JO
Do you know how to manipulate weak auras a little? Y...
well im gonna try, if it doesnt work how i want would u like to help me? 😄
vapid tiger
if you want I can DM you mine, it is what you are asking for but dont want to spam the disc.
This is what the conditions page looks like on mine. It was different in the original
hard widget
https://wago.io/r3yFgU_JO
Do you know how to manipulate weak auras a little? Y...
What do u want to change?
vapid tiger
He wants the sound on 3 stacks, not what you had it on originally. I think
hard widget
It is on 3 stacks
eternal sundial
This is what the conditions page looks like on mine. It was different in the ori...
you dont need exe usable in there
hard widget
you dont need exe usable in there
You do otherwise it will make a sound even outside of execute / sudden death
eternal sundial
i want that
hard widget
I see
eternal sundial
balmy socket
do i use execute biggest prio with 3 marks of exec?
fading bane
Yes
Execute is also highest prio if you got 2x SD procs, or its about to fall of
or if Ashen Juggernaut is about to drop
quaint parrot
yo what enchant is best for weapon for raid purposes
fading bane
Authority of the Depths
quaint parrot
ic thanks
clever belfry
Execute is also highest prio if you got 2x SD procs, or its about to fall of
slayer strike counter
slayer strike counter
fading bane
radiant plank
Authority of the Depths
I would argue not really since its mostly aoe fights
clever belfry
we love slayer strike counter
fast mural
the aoe enchant is dog tho
clever belfry
AYAYAPI event tracker
fading bane
even on AoE figths
fast mural
yep
fading bane
ST dmg is the most important dmg type in raid
thats why you dont give up all ur ST for AoE
clever belfry
You play depths in raid for any relevant difficulty
pearl sequoia
boss damage is responsible
radiant plank
authority is doggy
pearl sequoia
fast mural
radiant is just what people use cause its cheaper