fury

[young swan]

instead we got this

[junior gale]

We play well so in Blizzards mind they dont need to pay much attention to us and only do bare minimum

[serene vessel]

tbh I love the empower mechanic that RA gives, and I think it could be implemented more, I just wish it had more than 1 stack

[pliant jackal]

This xpac feels like blizzard didn't know what to do and they decided to just give a little bit of everything

and it all is meh

[young swan]

i like fury

[serene vessel]

it just feels like you should have 2 stacks of empowered abilities

[young swan]

i just think it could be better

like, a lot better

[serene vessel]

like RA can still only grant 1 empower each, but max stack should be mroe than 1. That would fix our dumb "don't care about rage" stance

at least

[young swan]

it wouldnt tho

[rotund ginkgo]

xan for actual blue

[young swan]

u still wouldnt care about it

[serene vessel]

it would a little bit

[young swan]

i mean like

[serene vessel]

you could actually press rampage in CDs

[young swan]

u could press it twice

[cedar depot]

just grinded 1600 rating for curio in arena, no fury warriors in sight, where yall at?

[young swan]

and then u dont care for 4 gcd's

[serene vessel]

yes but ur rage wouldn't be capped

in reck

at that point

if u can actually press ur rampage

[molten wing]

i don't mind overcapping , maybe add something something "rampage does X,Y or Z when cast at maximum rage"

[young swan]

i mean if theres an objective to overcap

and ur rewarded for playing around it

im fine with that

well maybe not fine with it

but its more palatable

[serene vessel]

because rn if u press ur rampage when ur in reck, ur gonna still rage cap b4 u expend ur empowered abilities

[molten wing]

or just delete AM and fit it into rampage

[serene vessel]

increasing max cap would allow u to at least press that rampage

[vague crest]

For the mists skip at the entrance do you need 25 tww herb or 25 shadowlands herb?

[molten wing]

tww

[eternal sundial]

AM incentivizes rampaging insta

its just that RA exists

[vague crest]

Ty!

[serene vessel]

ive said it b4 ill say it again, i like rampage I think it thematically fits fury best out of any other skill

and I think the spec should incentivize that being ur skill u press the most

crushing blow and bloodbath feel like they should come secondary to rampage

[molten wing]

make rampage an Empowered cast

[idle wolf]

Having never played warrior outside of sod before TWW save for some low keys in legion, this spec feels fun. Does my opinion matter?

[molten wing]

idk its weird with them adding more and more stuff eventually stuff like this will happen

[serene vessel]

ur opinion always matters

[eternal sundial]

unless you play SMF

[serene vessel]

dont let someone tell u otherwise

[young swan]

im more in the boat of "rampage should feel the best to press, but not necessarily the button you should be pressing the most"

[molten wing]

with so many stuff around the spec they will always fix one problem by creating another

[serene vessel]

playing SMF gets u mod status

[idle wolf]

I don’t play smf I just mog the two legion axes that are short

[valid drum]

So all in all, we do overcap in order to use both empowered abilities?

[restive narwhal]

How can i makro specifically Rank2 Combat Potion ?

[eternal sundial]

yesnt

you can skip BB at points (read guide for this)

but always always CB

[idle wolf]

The rotation seems so straight forward on the guides. What am I missing lol

[smoky vale]

/use shift right click item

[hardy cargo]

RA would feel a lot better if they added something to where overcapping was decentivized

Id like to see if ramp was used before all RA charges were used it’d do extra dam or cast the ability or something

[graceful crow]

there are instaances where my bladestorm is up before my recklessness and ava should i just use it? or wait for the big cds?

[hardy cargo]

Might be broken but overcapping feels like shit

[smoky vale]

ava cd > 10

[restive narwhal]

doesnt work. it takes the Name but not the Rank of the Potion

it takes Rank 1 Potion if i shiftklick

[deep stag]

Hello:) Is 4 set going to change the talents in any way or will you stick to the same talents? :peepoblush:

[young swan]

it could literally just be like "rampage makes your next BT and RB do 30% more damage, stacking 3 times"

and its fine

but they chose the WORST way to go about it

in classical blizzard fashion

[smoky vale]

just put the other pots away idk

[restive narwhal]

I have none

[smoky vale]

too much work when you can just bind

[coarse moon]

I can equip 3 omen crafted pieces at a time is that correct? I'm only limited to 2 embellishments?

[smoky vale]

then the macro should just work?

[restive narwhal]

nope

it always takes Rank 1

[smoky vale]

do you have it alone or with an ability?

[graceful crow]

please explain i haave a brain a size of a peanut T_T

[restive narwhal]

even if i click the Rank 2 potion when i edit the macro

[hardy cargo]

It would be way better though I think if you just added a stacking component to RA it’d still get owned in reck(though not NEARLY as bad)

[boreal sparrow]

What 2 trinkets would yall run

[young swan]

i even have a problem with this, cause RA should buff RECK not rotational abilities

[serene vessel]

im firmly of the opinion that I think stacking buffs are dumb

90% of the time they just end up being passive gameplay you don't care about

[molten wing]

make RA not only buff reck so it gives you the crit but also increase your crit dmg by 100% or some shit idk

[serene vessel]

the 10% of the time you do care about them and they feel shit if stacks fall

[idle wolf]

At 594 ilvl should I start saving upgrade currencies for better stated gear/bis rolls? Probably not raiding

[idle wolf]

Why is this different from wowhead and icyveins. Also doesn’t mention maintaining enrage

[graceful crow]

which guide is this??

[smoky vale]

did you read what it said at top, cooldown not rotation

[weary ice]

The weathered/carved you should just send

They won’t be relevant for long

Depending on the content you’re doing

[idle wolf]

Doesn’t everything need valor stones? Just send those too?

[weary ice]

But valorstones are kind of annoying to get so might wanna save

[smoky vale]

you will be gated by crests anyways

just send

[weary ice]

I agree with that

[round sphinx]

We have a feeling for emblishments yet? or still wait to see if they will post more tuning changes? FIgured since we had not seen any adjustments by now we might be ok.

[smoky vale]

if you cap oh well

[hardy cargo]

Extended + better reck from RA would be based

[real birch]

how do yall feel about fury in the coming m+? Been playin my ele sham a lot but sometimes the unga bunga overtakes me.

[rotund ginkgo]

ABSOLUTELY

DIABOLICAL

FIRST GAME PERFORMANCE

FROM YOURS TRULY

[young swan]

very solid but very likely not in the top tier WF meta

[smoky vale]

https://tenor.com/view/zamn-gif-23821732

ragish you doing well

:3

[real birch]

fair enough im not pushin turbo gigadick keys I just like doing fat numbers

[young swan]

yeah you'll be fine then

[smoky vale]

then play what you find fun

[boreal sparrow]

What 2?

[eternal sundial]

sim

[weary ice]

Ritual knife and shard

I’ve simmed

[eternal sundial]

there u go

[boreal sparrow]

Shweet

I'm afk so can't sim

That's why I came to the MIT people

[restive peak]

Shadow is disgusting, sac is a must keep

[rotund ginkgo]

:3

legit

[valid moon]

Rotation wise, what goes first? BT, RB or Execute?

[hard widget]

Depends on a whole lot of factors for which u can find the answer in the wowhead guide

[agile lake]

Guys do we reroll dragon on the anniversary update ?

[restive peak]

CB/RB is always before BT/BB, you're just inting a 15% crit chance otherwise, except if an add set was about to die so you could send BB/BT to fish for reap...but that's legit just pad, and may not even proc

Like if the adds die anyway....who cares if you reap? Besides your details dopamine

[cyan turtle]

the delves smile upon me

[restive peak]

Jelly brotherman

[cyan turtle]

do people upgrade the champion track atm?

[fiery hare]

i got lucky and had blood dk trade me mace from grim batol 😄

[lean wasp]

what happend to my avatar macro ?

[cyan turtle]

oh shit i can upgrade with just stone cus of my crafted wep

[verbal dragon]

think i could do a t8 bountiful with this ilvl?

[restive peak]

If you take it slow, yeah

[keen kindle]

+Hi dumb question

[restive peak]

Fury is busted for solo delves

[verbal dragon]

goti t

[keen kindle]

Do yall press WW...like at all in ST?

[plucky ice]

as prot easy if you dont wanna wait cds for each pack

[royal crater]

im new in retail, is there cap for haste or i dont need worry about stats right now?

[keen kindle]

Or is it like once in a blue moon if you're unlucky as fuck

[restive peak]

If STing in AOE spec, yes

[keen kindle]

Sim it

[restive peak]

If pure ST, I press slam

[cyan turtle]

anyone know how to fix?

[restive peak]

But yeah Slam/WW is your last second filler

[delicate thicket]

@cyan turtle ask blizzard to fix their game

[keen kindle]

And you cast it like 3 times a fight maybe?

[keen kindle]

relog or /reload

PRoballyu

[restive peak]

It's fairly rare, yeah

It's last prio behind Ramp CB BB RB Exec BT

[keen kindle]

So it's not totally inaccurate to say fury is kind of a 3 button spec mostly

[restive peak]

So it's extremely rare

[keen kindle]

...I forget exe exists

[restive peak]

I'd say it is, and if you just send things with no consideration and run up against a warr who bothers to send CB opportunist + stack crit for BBs etc to ensure more ramps and better rage management

They'll probably pump you

They're all minor, minor optimizations but stacked together they will matter

[exotic glacier]

not before buying me dinner first I'd hope

[restive peak]

I don't pay

[verbal dragon]

i dont even have slam binded

[restive peak]

You pay then I pump you

[verbal dragon]

i just use ww

[restive peak]

Simple rules

[exotic glacier]

are you planning to do mythic raid? if no, you'll be ok. Otherwise, there's a macro that makes it auto slam if you dont have the enhanced WW

[verbal dragon]

i am planning to do mythic

im new to warrior

just leveled and gearing

rn

[restive peak]

So for ST you should have slam bound instead of WW

[verbal dragon]

this is my bar currently

[restive peak]

But there are 2 ST fights all tier

[exotic glacier]

then you'll need to start learning the optimizations.

[restive peak]

So you'll use slam twice

[verbal dragon]

got it

ik

that the rest are multitarget

[frank plover]

is hekili updated/worth using for fury?

[exotic glacier]

this discord is great for learning things that will give SLIGHT edges to improvement. Most people here dont really push mythic or anything so its ok to joke around about small optimizations.. but If you're seriously pushing hard, it's worth learning the right way to do stuff.

[verbal dragon]

yeah im trying to push mythics hard this expac

[outer ridge]

anyone else getting not getting the same results on the sim with ascendency serum?

[keen kindle]

So we're back into add city

[restive peak]

What am I looking at

[exotic glacier]

this is cleave? are you hittin the same # of targets as the sim is?

or are you getting an extra mob somewhere?

[restive peak]

Like what sim are you running that even has BB as #1

[exotic glacier]

good point

unhinged + BS nerfs?

[restive peak]

But no if BB was my #1 I'd be concerned, CB cranks it regardless of those things

[warm crag]

2 billion target cleave 10s length

[restive peak]

Right

[outer ridge]

the sim is 5 target dummies, was hitting 5 target dummies

[restive peak]

Timeframe?

[summer crater]

And even in those it feels like twice in a fight

[warm crag]

does bloodbath just combine a lot of damage instances into one to be at the top or

[outer ridge]

both were 4 minutes

[restive peak]

Ah the sim is combining reap

That's why

[restive peak]

Ye it's giga rare

[exotic glacier]

this isnt running I see.

ooo I see the hero talent is combined. that looks weird.

[outer ridge]

yeah I was confused about the damage breakdown but it does look like it combines reap and bt

but yeah is serum just not simming properly or am i doing something wrong

[frigid cipher]

do we still wait with crafting, or can we craft weap?

[exotic glacier]

I crafted PVP weap

as a stopgap measure

[past pivot]

Wait if you can get the crests for a 636 next week

[errant sentinel]

craft pvp wep, craft pvp wrist with double nerubian embelishment and next week try to get mythic crest to craft weapon

[verbal dragon]

what can i do besides crafting and heroics

to get this up

fast

[frigid cipher]

delves

[exotic glacier]

Delves

[frigid cipher]

m0

[onyx fox]

Delves

[verbal dragon]

what tier delves

[onyx fox]

8

[exotic glacier]

8

[verbal dragon]

i cant do 8 yet

[frigid cipher]

build it up

[onyx fox]

Get there

[exotic glacier]

get to 8

[past pivot]

LFR, normal raid, M0, crafting, Delves

[warm crag]

conquest cap for 610 gear

[exotic glacier]

PvP too frankly will also be good for you

[onyx fox]

Pvp also insane for gearing crafting

[exotic glacier]

we seem to have a lot of newer players coming in. Im happy to see it.

[clever belfry]

i got a concussion from conquest

(lost 0 games so it was fine actually)

[rotund ginkgo]

@restive peak

[edgy oasis]

1007but do not level to tier 8 in bountiful delves. Wait till level 8. Then do bountiful delves and use coffer keys.

[rotund ginkgo]

how the fuck do i use raidbots to sim for the 4x color gems

[exotic glacier]

602 ilvl but a damned 580 ring keeping me down 😦

[restive peak]

Click the thing under the blasphem gem

[oblique trail]

Select the prismatic gem then tick always use and 4x colours right under it

[warm crag]

0% winrate in epic bgs

[past pivot]

ilvl means less on a ring than stats @exotic glacier

[rotund ginkgo]

yeah but then it locks me into

this weirsd

thing

[clever belfry]

just win maybe

[rotund ginkgo]

where i only have one selection

I CANT sim it says i need more stuff to sim

[warm crag]

have you tried locking in?

[exotic glacier]

its haste mastery... but still annoying

[clever belfry]

U can gear compare it

(spoiler its better)

ud need some ABSOLUTELY cooked stats for it to be worse.

[rotund ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/parasyte-lock-in-locked-in-serious-meme-gif-13189278796605253304

[restive peak]

Make sure you have the gems you need

[rotund ginkgo]

wym

[rotund ginkgo]

basically is it better to have 4x same gem or run 4x diff colors

[restive peak]

Mine looks like this, do this

[clever belfry]

Diff ofc

[restive peak]

Then run

[rotund ginkgo]

i need to actually have those gems in my inventory?

[clever belfry]

No

[restive peak]

No

Just select them

[rotund ginkgo]

okay

[restive peak]

So it reads all 4 + the blasph 1

[clever belfry]

id certainly select all mast gems tho

[rotund ginkgo]

OH

its cuz

i only selected

3 colors

thats why

[clever belfry]

How is it gonna fix 4

[restive peak]

Also make sure you have all 4 colors, and at least 5 sockets, or it won't work

[clever belfry]

if u have 3

[restive peak]

If you're lacking socket slots you have to turn off the use all 4 thing

Til you have enough sockets

[rotund ginkgo]

does this seem logical

[restive peak]

The fuck no

Delete the 1 and 2s

Oh no, you're overthinking this

[rotund ginkgo]

i dont care about the 1s and 2s

[restive peak]

Run the 4 I picked

[rotund ginkgo]

im using r2s tho

not r3s

[restive peak]

The diff from the mast crit mast haste is so rare

[edgy oasis]

There are times when I have enough rage to rampage after crushing blow but before bloodbath. Is the priority. CB>RP>BB>EX? Does EX ever gain priority?

[unreal onyx]

why

[restive peak]

And would be like .002% diff

[rotund ginkgo]

cuz r3s cost more

Chatting

[past pivot]

lol

[unreal onyx]

R3 arent even expensive

[clever belfry]

ok but why do u not have crit vers, but vers crit

[restive peak]

Just set it up exactly how mine is Ragish

[clever belfry]

they absolutely are

[restive peak]

STOP COOKING

[rotund ginkgo]

cuz i can only select 12

not 13

[restive peak]

Don't select 12

[unreal onyx]

debatable

[restive peak]

12 is dumb

Select the 4

[clever belfry]

wrong

[rotund ginkgo]

idk if i can listen to some1 thats duckfacing ngl

[restive peak]

The diff from vers/mast to vers/haste, even if it's a bit, will be like .002%

[clever belfry]

select all mastery, and then all non mastery with mastery sub

[rotund ginkgo]

ok but what if i like .002%

[restive peak]

It's fine to hate people more beautiful than you

[unreal onyx]

gottem

envy

[rotund ginkgo]

ok now it works

[clever belfry]

buy them for me then

[restive peak]

You could do what Anda is saying too, but it's very minimal, I'm just gonna keep simming what will be the top 4

[rotund ginkgo]

what an absolutely ABYSSMAL difference

this is the regular sim

just str8 up all colors

[unreal onyx]

I have 5 R3s of most mast gems in my bags in case I get a item in raid

aswell as 5 sockets

[restive peak]

Cuz I'm not gonna regem every single time a very irrelevant gem would take a .002% diff off a new drop

[twin lotus]

Hey guys how to opening the rotation?

[rotund ginkgo]

2k difference

[restive peak]

Ye, irrelevant

Exactly why I'm just running the 4 set everytime

[unreal onyx]

I am as prepared for raid as I can be

[clever belfry]

ok this doesn't help me though

[rotund ginkgo]

i can just mumbo jumbo them

[restive peak]

If the 49 haste would be better, it won't translate to any actual diff in practice

[unreal onyx]

can I send cross-realm items now?

[restive peak]

So why would I spend 6k on a gem

[clever belfry]

If youre ally yes

[rotund ginkgo]

LINC SHUT THE FUCK UPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP

https://tenor.com/view/choso-choso-jjk-choso-jujutsu-kaisen-choso-anime-jujutsu-kaisen-gif-10037971888755283102

[restive peak]

Ragish hates being told what to do when asking what to do

[plucky ice]

[restive peak]

Wild take

[unreal onyx]

bet, I'll send you some R5s

[rotund ginkgo]

its only u

[unreal onyx]

need name-realm

[rotund ginkgo]

ill never Choso-gif critty or anda

[eternal sundial]

do i play thane on brood cuz pad

[restive peak]

Can't handle the truth

[clever belfry]

Andayaya-TwistingNether

[rotund ginkgo]

:3

stole anda's lorrgs

[exotic glacier]

so... what do I do with weathered harbinger crests now that im above ilvl 600? like... can I change them into more useful things? I didnt really use this system in DF

[restive peak]

Do it for science

[rotund ginkgo]

not sure which boss

[eternal sundial]

🫡

[clever belfry]

don't

[restive peak]

[rotund ginkgo]

they all want me to get more crit anyways LMAO

[clever belfry]

Not good trust me

[eternal sundial]

gotta look at thane talents forgor what it even wants

[unreal onyx]

about to be on the way

[warm crag]

me earlier when linc said he passed on a bis trinket his split dropped 3 of

[clever belfry]

Only good one i got was thr funny pad boss

[clever belfry]

king behaviour

[restive peak]

I'm not usin that dogshit trinket

[covert fractal]

Hi, is it possible to make a sim with the 610 pvp items on raidbot? I see that on the professions - rare/uncommon tab you can go up to 590.

[sick jungle]

how far behind is double dawnthread in raid?

[past pivot]

Gear compare

[restive peak]

2% but an early 636 wep is more than 2% ahead of 2 crafted offpieces

[clever belfry]

At the top of top gear (above the available gear) you can add items and basically tell it what ilvl to add it as.

[rotund ginkgo]

real

[covert fractal]

for charque craft I have to do all the stats zzz

[eternal sundial]

does thane brick my macro

[clever belfry]

i am kinda on my phone so it is hard to show gg

[eternal sundial]

[restive peak]

And gear compare fr is a good tool, people really underuse it

Nothing could possibly go wrong bro

Send it

Thane it up

[exotic glacier]

whenever linc gets this excited, you know its a mistake

[rotund ginkgo]

running linc's gems now

just so i can piss on his grave

[eternal sundial]

raid is tmr but we thane the boss

[restive peak]

So you can realize the gem swap is fuckin pointless, good

[clever belfry]

get a grip

[sick jungle]

ty

[unreal onyx]

nice lie

[restive peak]

Proud of you

[eternal sundial]

ive played arms for all bosses rn

i will pad 1 time

[restive peak]

What

[fickle bluff]

bro got a rectangle in the macro

[clever belfry]

should work 🤷‍♂️
gg no gemmus for me

[warm crag]

Sie können keine Post an diesen Realm verschicken.

[clever belfry]

GET A GRIP

[rotund ginkgo]

uh actually linc

ur gems simmed

[unreal onyx]

[rotund ginkgo]

600 less than my gems

so

[warm crag]

can you send it to Spongiewarr-Tarrenmill pls

[rotund ginkgo]

suck it up

[clever belfry]

spongie go pick up my gems

[rotund ginkgo]

@unreal onyx buy them for me

fr

im twistingnether too

i beg u

plz

[unreal onyx]

im not twisting nether lol

[exotic glacier]

what thte hell, why you no send gems to ALL broke boys! Im broke as hell

[rotund ginkgo]

I HATE YOUUUUUUUUUUUUU

https://tenor.com/view/yugioh-should-been-gif-23901254

[clever belfry]

u can trade them to me tomorrah :3

[eternal sundial]

is that wrong idek

[clever belfry]

i am not home gg!!

[eternal sundial]

i stole from tmy

[unreal onyx]

can't either

I thought you can send stuff cross-realm nowadays

or is that not a thing yet

[warm crag]

can go in a party

[restive peak]

Ragish mentally breaking when he realizes I was right again, you love to see it

[clever belfry]

Trading works

[rotund ginkgo]

oh no wtf

[clever belfry]

mail doesn't apparently

[rotund ginkgo]

the i hate you wasnt to u

[clever belfry]

love blizz

[rotund ginkgo]

linc

it was to anda

and lolxd

[restive peak]

It's ok

[rotund ginkgo]

they should send me gems

[unreal onyx]

wanna get it traded now?

[rotund ginkgo]

im brokie

:3

[restive peak]

I still know you're mentally breaking realizing I'm right

[exotic glacier]

seriously tho, what do I do with Weathered crests? Do they just sit there? Im dumb and broke.

[clever belfry]

not home...

[restive peak]

He just said he isn't home JESUS

[unreal onyx]

damn

[rotund ginkgo]

im playing fury

[clever belfry]

Just give em to spongie

[rotund ginkgo]

im way past mentally broken

YOU GODDAMN HEATHEN

[restive peak]

Send em, 90 can be turned into the heroic 1s too

[rotund ginkgo]

WAKE THE FUCK UP LINC

[unreal onyx]

is spongie ally?

[clever belfry]

yes

[rotund ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/choso-choso-jjk-choso-jujutsu-kaisen-choso-anime-jujutsu-kaisen-gif-10037971888755283102

[clever belfry]

velf gamer i think

[unreal onyx]

@warm crag inv me and I trade you

[restive peak]

Ragish needs a therapist, we got any in the chat

[rotund ginkgo]

literally correct

[exotic glacier]

where do I do that? I dont see it at teh crest exchange

[warm crag]

name realm?

[unreal onyx]

Lolxd-Frostmourne

[rotund ginkgo]

:3 I have ocd, autism and disphoria :3

:3

[warm crag]

cooked realm gg

[plucky ice]

[restive peak]

You have to have surpassed weathered, if you haven't send them into the items you can boost still

[rotund ginkgo]

frostmourne is wild

yay my air fryer fries r ready

[clever belfry]

i only knows frostmane frfr

[restive peak]

Fuck we love air fryer food, it's BIS

[warm crag]

@clever belfry

put lolxd on the warrior tier list

[exotic glacier]

Bless. you saved me.

[restive peak]

Gotchu big dog

[clever belfry]

this is so king

[unreal onyx]

o7

[sick jungle]

damn, sim is making me go so much more into crit than I thought

[eternal sundial]

@restive peakwould you rava or bs on thane for pad 🤔

i havent touched it at all cuz its dogshit

[rotund ginkgo]

IT SHOULDVE BEEN ME

LOL

D:

[tiny hare]

are u guys crafting the 2h axe?

[rotund ginkgo]

i love seeing diff warrior's UIs

[eternal sundial]

not yet

[clever belfry]

yes

[rotund ginkgo]

just discovered sarri's UI is absolutely insane

[junior gale]

Critcake wears turtle necks he can be your therapist

[eternal sundial]

mine is objectively the best

sarris is wild ye

[clever belfry]

@unreal onyx btw u said diff colors, these are technically all the same color (onyx)
just telling u cause it matters for meta gem ya

[rotund ginkgo]

sarris's UI is literally numberphile moment

[restive peak]

Bro I'm NGL this is where your science comes in

I haven't fucked w thane since week 3 beta

[unreal onyx]

actually true, I thought it went by the "main" gem

[rotund ginkgo]

absolutely INSANE to me to have a XX.XX timer

[eternal sundial]

we'll see on sunday

[heavy dock]

what are we simming for aoe?

[rotund ginkgo]

bro hes using some typewriter font on details

[clever belfry]

it does, and all these are mast mainstat

[eternal sundial]

have you seen revvez old details skin

[restive peak]

Sarri is 1 of the GOATs but his UI is definitely a UI of all time

[clever belfry]

which makes them same color

[eternal sundial]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWcEYB0u9Mg&t=501s @rotund ginkgo

[eternal sundial]

i like the central thing but his current ui is neat oviously

[unreal onyx]

now it should be fine

[clever belfry]

👑👑👑👑👑

[warm crag]

🤝

[rotund ginkgo]

that seems ok

[rotund ginkgo]

when is my turn

[eternal sundial]

details font

[rotund ginkgo]

yeah

[eternal sundial]

so many numb

[rotund ginkgo]

seems better than sarri's

[eternal sundial]

a

[rotund ginkgo]

sarri just said "if you dont have milliseconds you dont have accurate numbers"

numberphile ahh comment

[unreal onyx]

when gems are cheaper

xd

[rotund ginkgo]

thought u aint a brokie?

[unreal onyx]

you better use those wisely

[rotund ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/mmhmm-mmhmm-meme-mmhmm-gif-mmhmm-twitch-gif-23291803

[unreal onyx]

true

I supply woyers based on the tier list that was posted months ago

[clever belfry]

he will blast many burst dw

[rotund ginkgo]

what tier list

[clever belfry]

Noob

[eternal sundial]

bro is NOT up to date

🗣️

[rotund ginkgo]

😦

i was on vacation a few months ago

possibly lined up

is it pinned?

[clever belfry]

@young swan this guy is streamer huh

[rotund ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/choso-choso-jjk-choso-jujutsu-kaisen-choso-anime-jujutsu-kaisen-gif-10037971888755283102

[warm crag]

idk xan you gave him purple role but not me

[rotund ginkgo]

say what u will i am entertaining

[clever belfry]

[rotund ginkgo]

i am entering anda rn

[warm crag]

?

[clever belfry]

cant say ive watched tbh
i dont watch streams, so this isn't flame

[rotund ginkgo]

Wheres the tierlist

[warm crag]

[rotund ginkgo]

: (

[rotund ginkgo]

i aint flamed dw abt it

[clever belfry]

[warm crag]

archimtiros tweeted it on x com

[rotund ginkgo]

i peak 4 viewers, 3 of them are my mom and the last is zhai

sometimes its 5 if philliam joins

[young swan]

stop pinging me im trying to be productive

[clever belfry]

Theres also critus cakus tierlist stream

[warm crag]

king

[young swan]

im too famous

[clever belfry]

who

Whatcha doing king

[young swan]

remaking my resume

[clever belfry]

go right ahead then

[warm crag]

that was the pinned one archi tweeted

[young swan]

👑

[clever belfry]

Hmhhmm

[warm crag]

🚴‍♂️

[clever belfry]

idr who else made good ones

[rotund ginkgo]

IM NOT EVEN THERE

[unreal onyx]

he forgor to put spongie in GOATS

[rotund ginkgo]

AHHAAH

[clever belfry]

find god spongiewarr

[warm crag]

found god

[restive peak]

Funkie LMAO

[clever belfry]

[tiny hare]

did you guys craft the everforged axe or the charged claymore?

[clever belfry]

loboz in WHO is insane

[rotund ginkgo]

Gromnak is insane

[unreal onyx]

I was just in a group with him

[rotund ginkgo]

SOME CLEAVE

[clever belfry]

Axe cause cheaper

[rotund ginkgo]

MAYHAPSSSSSS

[warm crag]

loboz can not be in who tier

@loboz

[tiny hare]

does it matter?

[clever belfry]

(check what the prices are for axe mace sword)

no

theyre SAME

[lament lagoon]

How we coping boys

[clever belfry]

craft whats cheapest or what tmog u like most

[warm crag]

deleted my warrior, the nerfs were just too much

rerolling arcane

[past pivot]

https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/1234949058121171069

[unreal onyx]

exclusively craft by tmog

[rotund ginkgo]

maybe one day ill be in WHO tier

[oblique trail]

arcane was also nerfed

your plan has been ruined

[clever belfry]

1.2%

[eternal sundial]

@young swan

french

[clever belfry]

noooo

[oblique trail]

0.6%

[warm crag]

0.3%

[clever belfry]

that's 1.2/2

[rotund ginkgo]

TO BE FAIR @unreal onyx the tierlist was released literally while i was vacating so i was very inactive on discord during that time

:((

[oblique trail]

quick mathematician

[unreal onyx]

I wasn't inactive and am not in there

and I am not coping

keep making up excuses smh

[clever belfry]

new entry for the OEIS?

[warm crag]

7 8 0.3

[clever belfry]

no way

[warm crag]

seven is scared of Q

[rotund ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/the-good-doctor-shaun-murphy-freddie-highmore-i-am-a-surgeon-surgeon-gif-10294805566573567111

[clever belfry]

17 18 19

[civic echo]

Is it safe to just spend all of your carved harbingercrest

or can you upgrade those into the higher ones

[sweet condor]

Hi I have a question, what do you think is better Skarmorak Shard or Mark Of Khardos ?

[oblique trail]

They're both about even

You can use either one

[spare steppe]

Khardos is more reliable imo

[civic echo]

do i use my spakrs on 2h weapon

or no?

[rotund ginkgo]

ur call

u can send carveds

will be useless next week

[spare steppe]

You can craft a 610 pvp weapon for no crests or sparks

[civic echo]

oh right

[clever belfry]

Maybe hold like 3x15 carved for something if u haven't done normal

[civic echo]

i did get those things

[clever belfry]

if uve done normal
send all

[past pivot]

If you can upgrade to 636 next week, wait. If not, craft

[civic echo]

ok i will wait on spark and use the pvp craft for weapon

[lament lagoon]

Yea I unsubbed and chargedback 14 years of WoW Time

[vivid lagoon]

I feel like the more I read the comments here the more confused I get

People crying over 10% nerf on blade storm lol

[oblique trail]

People like to make a mountain out of a molehill

[warm crag]

people like to shrink banezi

[civic echo]

is it posible to get a r5 610 weapon crafted with t2 mats?

the t3 charged alloy too expensive for me

[oblique trail]

you will forever grow .01mm every 60 minutes (or everytime I google google)

[warm crag]

wtf?

[restive peak]

PVP craft is a giga waste

[civic echo]

my weapons are 590 and 593

[eternal sundial]

still

[civic echo]

what would you suggest i do for weapons then

[eternal sundial]

you replace it on tuesday xd

[restive peak]

You can get a 606 wep from M+, or just crafting the wep you're gonna upgrade to 636 anyway, and you can use those 10 PVP craft pieces for 3 offpieces at 610

And the PVP 1s can be socketed

M0*

Not M+

[civic echo]

all of my other gear is 603-610

[restive peak]

Are you raiding this tier

[civic echo]

i mostly pug but yeah

i did all of normal already and half of heroic

[restive peak]

And if so, are you trying to go into M+/raid tues on reset?

[spare steppe]

The odyn’s fury nerf made me sad

[civic echo]

yeah im going to be doing m+ on reset

[past pivot]

Do some WQs for gold so you can buy r3 mats

[restive peak]

Ok so craft the 606 wep, cuz it to 636 is going to be the biggest % damage upgrade across the 1st few weeks

[regal falcon]

For weapon enchants is it depths on both weapons or depths on one and radiant power on the other?

[neon ingot]

guys any % update on the nerfs ?

[supple laurel]

wep best opt I assume to craft that is?

[past pivot]

https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/1234949058121171069

[restive peak]

If you want to eventually have 2 duskweaves, you'll have them from your next 2 sparks, and can recraft 636 wep without embellish

[neon ingot]

Thanks

[restive peak]

The 610 PVP wep is legit DOA as soon as M+ starts

It's a dead craft you will never touch or use in any capacity again

[kindred notch]

who can check my log?

[vivid lagoon]

It’s still op man they had to nerf that imagine warrior with the high gear later how op it would be they had to balance cuz warrior is not even a class supposed to be top dmg

Top dmg classes are rogues , mages , warlocks

[restive peak]

Well, that's not true

No class is designed to be "top damage"

[vivid lagoon]

Lol

[junior gale]

except mage

[restive peak]

But yes, OF/BS was insanely overpowered in practice

[warm crag]

by this logic all pvp crafts are DOA

[restive peak]

The nerfs were very fair, and frankly, we got off lucky

Nah, my 610 socketed and embellished nerubian armor belt will survive

Until I can comfortably send heroic or mythic crests on a 2nd craft

[vivid lagoon]

Warrior always get nerfed always every beginning of xpac

[warm crag]

there is still merit in crafting in more places than the belt

[civic echo]

ah yeah 60k to craft the weapon ic an't really afford that atm

[restive peak]

Because it has a socket, and you need the nerub armor

But not the wep, the wep is 10 of them

[civic echo]

the sanctified alloys cost too much atm

[vivid lagoon]

This was not a big nerf at all I have seen worse before

[restive peak]

You can make 3 off pieces you didn't get 610 on with those

And craft the 606 wep you're gonna want anyway

[civic echo]

that's what i'm saying the spark weapon

too expensive

lol

[restive peak]

I mean, don't waste gold on a cheaper option that you'll use for 3 days then

If you're that broke

That makes it even WORSE to waste the gold on it

[eternal sundial]

JESUS

what is wrong with my guildmates

??????????

[warm crag]

they NEED more maps

[eternal sundial]

he had 12 before raid on wednesday....

[silver prairie]

No kink shaming in this discord

[warm crag]

?????????

[eternal sundial]

he started raid

at 602

[sullen dove]

3 pieces of raid loot

[zinc wasp]

is it just me or does sac brood suck? i do about 200k more on pulls and fights with skamrok and shadow-binding knife trink

[unreal onyx]

bruh

[warm crag]

ok thats not crazy tho

[vivid lagoon]

This crafted weapon is best I will craft mine asap with haste and mastery and keep lvling my weapon until it is high

[unreal onyx]

im barely 600

[eternal sundial]

it is

[restive peak]

You're comparing short pulls where skarm lasts the entire time

[warm crag]

im 603 and havent raided yet

[eternal sundial]

you had multiple days

he did it on resez

[warm crag]

ok he needs a grip

im sorry

[civic echo]

@restive peak does it matter if it's the sword or axe that you craft

[restive peak]

Nope

All weps are normalized

[zinc wasp]

I'm in raid, with sac first pull i did 1.7m top burst, and when fight ended after 6 min i had 850k dps. With the other trink i have 2.1m burst and end up at 933k dps.

[civic echo]

ok

[summer quail]

ah yes, 2 sample sizes. very nice

[warm crag]

sample size 2 goes crazy

[restive peak]

2 sample sizes on heroic bosses in low level gear while obviously dying

[rich rock]

Do we use Mastery Flask or Chaos Flask?

[restive peak]

Also pad DPS means fuckall, sac is def not the best AOE trinket

But it's not all about AOE

[zinc wasp]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/YTtQhLcy4pFw1qbR#fight=7&type=damage-done

i tried switching them out and i kept doing lower with sac

only time we actually killed boss was when i swapped out sac

[restive peak]

Could be you have too many haste items and need the mastery rn, could be your uptime/mechanical assignment, could be a lot

I can promise the robot is not wrong however

[zinc wasp]

raidbots tells me sac does less

[eternal sundial]

@warm craghe told me he does the same delve the entire time

[zinc wasp]

but on dungeon slice

[restive peak]

Then for your gear level, sac does less

[delicate thicket]

how you know the robot isnt wrong

[restive peak]

That doesn't mean sac isn't better for a lot of people

[zinc wasp]

sec lemme pull out raidbots

[past pivot]

robot is not wrong as long as data entered properly

[rich rock]

CHaos Flask or MAstery flask?

[spiral shell]

Never pull out

[zinc wasp]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/v7TvMsRidu9oBxS9A7GqGd

[eternal sundial]

helped making apl

[past pivot]

There you go. DS isn't good for fury

[delicate thicket]

@eternal sundial implemented trinket as well?

[restive peak]

But yes, perfect learning opp; what gear you have determines what items are better for you

[eternal sundial]

thats nerd shit

(no)

[restive peak]

BIS sims are done with BIS stat allocations from the proper items

[delicate thicket]

so the answer is you dont

[restive peak]

If you have too much haste, a haste trinket loses value

If you have 0 crit, a crit item gains value

[delicate thicket]

but yeah if the trinket behaves the same in real scenarios as in sim its fine

[warm crag]

ds is historically weird at giving proper trinket results

[eternal sundial]

BIS doesnt matter till you can get every single item at max ilvl

ye DS liked haste a LOT in df

[civic echo]

@restive peak this guy said he can craft at 619 ilvl if i use a runed harbinger crest do i send that then?

[bitter salmon]

are delves still overtuned? i am struggling with 585

[restive peak]

No

Do not waste 45 heroic crests

[eternal sundial]

ur gear is also a bit low

but some are hard

[restive peak]

You're gonna recraft it to 636 with your 1st 90 from M+

[zinc wasp]

for patchwork it tells me to get rid of skamrok

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/eBGsBCdxJLASKeiQAqGd4e

[clever belfry]

raid trinkets will Generally bs implemented

[civic echo]

oh ok

so what ilvl do i wanna craft at

[clever belfry]

if the APLs use them optimally
different story

[restive peak]

You're in AOE build Daniel

[bitter salmon]

i mean it should be kinda free i thought?
next week it's irrelevant content anyways

[eternal sundial]

its not free unfortunately

[clever belfry]

some WQ/Delve trinkets are not yet implemented properly afaik

[restive peak]

And the skarm is 593 vs 606/610

[zinc wasp]

Also this

i do more dmg in aoe build than st build

[warm crag]

unless you gain significant value from crafting it rn you could just wait until you have mythic crests and craft it then

otherwise you gotta recraft for big bucks

[restive peak]

No, you don't, you're misplaying

[zinc wasp]

i just cant get champions spear build to do dmg

[restive peak]

If that's the case

[civic echo]

all of my gear is 603-610 but my weapons are 590 and 593

[amber shuttle]

what earthen food should i eat?

[restive peak]

Don't try to problem solve misplaying with gear, learn the rotation better until it's fluid and then listen to the robot

[warm crag]

same king

[spiral shell]

Worms

[restive peak]

You can run roar>spear, it's a very miniscule drop, but simming top gear w WW talents is a meme and trolling and inaccurate

My current spear vs roar ST is 3.7k DPS at 1.15mil

[past pivot]

And sim properly then listen to the robot. Bad data in, bad data out. Take a look at others' top gear if you need a visual of what a top gear sim should look like

[warm crag]

i mean not really

[restive peak]

So basically nothing

[warm crag]

you play most raid fights in those talents

[restive peak]

Simming with WW talents for his ST boss

[amber shuttle]

im assuming mastery earthen food is best?

[restive peak]

He linked us a nexus princess log bro lol

[exotic glacier]

King shit. You know.

[warm crag]

then be more specific no ppl will read that and take the wrong thing from it

[restive peak]

I'm talking to him, he knows what he's asking about

[bitter salmon]

yeah fk delves, really frustrating

[exotic glacier]

That bad huh?

[restive peak]

I mean a 600 ilvl recommended delve at 585 should be hard, Beyca

[past pivot]

go prot

[bitter salmon]

i am dying to white hits

[restive peak]

You're 15 ilvls below

[chrome plover]

i struggled through one on my 575 havoc and switched to veng for the next one and it was pretty easy

[bitter salmon]

yeah and when i am 600 the gear becomes useless and m+ is out

[restive peak]

The 606 ilvl gear doesn't become useless

[bitter salmon]

i'll just spam mythics i suppose

[eternal sundial]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dapqMeQCdcs&list=RDMMhjGZLnja1o8&index=27 @warm crag

good song

[chrome plover]

my gear atm is almost all delve gear :icant

[bitter salmon]

i thought the gear is useless when running +10 keys

[restive peak]

Well yeah, you're not going into a +10 at 585 Tues

Lol

[chrome plover]

^

[past pivot]

+10 is like a +20 in DF

[exotic glacier]

I mean YOU aren’t. Imma make my friends carry me /s

[bitter salmon]

no idea about scaling for m+, skipped a lot of df

[restive peak]

I mean I'll be in +9s on Tues at 610-615 ilvl, but I play with gangsters

[chrome plover]

+10 is the max for gear instead of 20

[restive peak]

Lol

[chrome plover]

and they scaled difficulty accordingly

[restive peak]

IDK why you'd even bother w a +10 for the early portion

We'll aim for 12s by the weekend probably

But 9s for early crest farm OP

[dapper hound]

why is ara kara trinket simming so bad? https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/f24meH62heZRxAK5VaP8yJ

[bitter salmon]

so m5 are same loot as t8 delves?

[eternal sundial]

bad gear favours raw damage

and 602 is not 639

[restive peak]

Yes

[delicate thicket]

bee trinket is fake @dapper hound who cares

[restive peak]

Also you're on dslice

[empty mirage]

whats this fury nerf im hearing about say it aint so

[eternal sundial]

W

[restive peak]

It's irrelevant Koda, slap on the wrist

Sky did not fall

[empty mirage]

ooh rah 07

[chrome plover]

fury is dead

season over

[empty mirage]

watch your mouth

[reef bison]

wow is back baby

[delicate thicket]

nerfed because blizzard gave the adds 0 hp in normal/hc

[dapper hound]

what u mean by bee trinket is fake? does it sim wierdly?

[empty mirage]

fury is my livelyhood

[delicate thicket]

@dapper hound tiny hitbox. gets u killed

idk why u would use that

trinket is not real

[empty mirage]

any yall mfers tried this trinket yet

its wild

[eternal sundial]

too much test

text

[clever belfry]

egg

[empty mirage]

whens m+ the 17th

[clever belfry]

on weekly reset

[civic echo]

concoction: kiss of death or ascendancy serum both 603

[iron portal]

Almost Adele

[dry bone]

should i be going the WW talents for M+ and raid?

raid for sure not right

[sudden tusk]

if theres AoE to do

we are the class to do it

[vivid lagoon]

This sounds good

[bitter salmon]

is there a priority list of items to upgrade? talking about which order
weapon > trinkets > rest, something like that

[past pivot]

check the guide. Wowhead

[bitter salmon]

ah i found it

so weapon/trinkets was right

[haughty solstice]

Surprised no one’s talking about the nerf we just got lol

[restive pewter]

what builds are yall using for uglrax and other like cleave-ish fights
it feels so bad using st

is there no easy way to spec into at least whirlwind stacks

[warm crag]

it's outrageous, i and every reasonable warrior has already rerolled

grammatically correct statement

[haughty solstice]

I’m too lazy to reroll, just going with it I guess 🥲

[warm crag]

ofc you play the cleave builds you only lose like 5% st damage

i think archi has talent builds based on fights in his guide somewhere

[past pivot]

https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/1234949058121171069 not much to say

[hard widget]

Fury dream is joever eta gg reroll fast arcane mage op unluku better luck next expansion

Like this? x)

[young swan]

pretty irrelevant nerfs

[haughty solstice]

You think?

[hard widget]

Looking at those numbers aint gonna undo them or turn them into a buff

[past pivot]

@haughty solstice Read Archi's update. The one I linked

[young swan]

yeah

[haughty solstice]

Alright

[restive pewter]

am i trollin wheres the guide

[hard widget]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/overview-pve-dps

[young swan]

the only thing that pisses me off is that they're very close to completely undoing the buff they gave OF on the beta

[hard widget]

"I am upset" Xan edition soon?

[restive pewter]

ah heard u

i just checked pinned as well

[young swan]

yeah totally

[restive pewter]

(it was in pinned)

[young swan]

i mean i dont care that much

[restive pewter]

((i am not wise))

[young swan]

its just like

why

[warm crag]

i want more xan yap

[hard widget]

Its just nice QOL other than that i kinda cba with odyns

[solar forum]

Should i always wait for 3 stacks on mark to use execute?

[young swan]

I dont have anything targeted to yap about

[hard widget]

I'll probably play dancing blades or another talent anyways

And get annoyed i gotta put odyns in there somewhere

[warm crag]

yap about the state of warrior and why meat cleaver irreversibly ruined fury aoe cadence

[young swan]

maybe i yap about all of my issues with fury warrior

[hard widget]

Make us cleave 10 targets

[young swan]

would take a while to compile everything and propose solutions tho

[hard widget]

Did u fix ur lag btw Xan

Or stutters

[young swan]

i think so?

it was semi fixed after I restarted the stream

downscaling to 1080 helped a lot

[viral jasper]

i hit 606 day of reset no raid lol

[hard widget]

Hmm maybe thats the way then after all

[viral jasper]

just do pvp bozos

[willow cradle]

Please do, I love the yap sessions!

[young swan]

someone left a comment on one of those videos asking for more stuff

[eternal sundial]

:xapping:

[young swan]

idk which one of u it was

[hard widget]

Which video's?

[eternal sundial]

lacking lore

[young swan]

the ones on greg's talent trees

i made them like

a while ago

[hard widget]

I saw that actually ye

[young swan]

but someone left a comment like 2 weeks ago

made me confused

[hard widget]

Now its 2 people asking

Kekw

[young swan]

[hard widget]

I even liked the video

[lost saffron]

Is warrior dead now?

[warm crag]

yes

[young swan]

yeah go reroll

[lost saffron]

What should I reroll?

[hard widget]

Check the pins for the link to the Mage discord

[young swan]

warrior

[tired brook]

Yeah fotm is over guys was fun

[lost saffron]

kk im rerolling warrior

sounds like a fun class

[shut onyx]

fotw

[restive peak]

Let’s yap big dog

[hard widget]

He should do it with you, u speak fluent Yapanees

[sudden tusk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1230539998898684057.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[lost saffron]

Got any Rank 1s yet?

[warm crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1230539998898684057.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[restive peak]

Heroic parses

[lost saffron]

I meeean

[lost saffron]

Got any r1s yet?

[fading bane]

Got any r1s yet?

[warm crag]

i havent even raided yet king

[hard widget]

Got any r1s yet?

[thorn echo]

Any Algar Competitor's Greatsword crafters

[eternal sundial]

tried trade chat xd

[thorn echo]

ye

[still imp]

Hi guys, do we craft with spark now that we saw what is getting nerf in the reset? Or we still wait for more changes?

[eternal sundial]

wait for myth crests

[lost saffron]

No 😦

[lost saffron]

and you?

[lost saffron]

Got any r1s yet?

[fading bane]

Got any r1s yet?

[lost saffron]

@mossy fox got any r1s yet?

[hard widget]

i got 2 rank 1's combined they make rank 11

Does that count?

[copper patio]

it does.. gj critcake

[lost saffron]

No that doesnt count

[hard widget]

:/

[lost saffron]

Youre only allowed 1

leave some for the others

[hard widget]

No im rank 11

Not 1

Nvm

U didnt get the joke 😂

[lost saffron]

Ohhh

I thought about it the other way around

😄

As the joke

xD

[hard widget]

Oh

Kek

[fluid cedar]

[lost saffron]

Whos your favorite warrior streamer?

[mossy fox]

r1 aggro deaths on broodkeeper

[lost saffron]

understandable

[edgy mauve]

what causes the mini bladestorm proc? i see warriors and the animation looks like bladestorm but it is only a second or two in duration

[fluid cedar]

reap the storm

[hard widget]

I dont watch a lot of twitch i just have people open to support their stream

Since im playing pretty much all day myself

[edgy mauve]

cool thanks

[fluid cedar]

its the third row in the middle of slayer talents

[edgy mauve]

nice

[rotund ginkgo]

just got reminded why lfr is insanity

went prot

to have fun and get into que

3rd boss i died twice

[lost saffron]

Which boss is your favorite so far

[rotund ginkgo]

other tank said "i literally did more damage than u?? boss dead? cry about it"

cuz he didnt taunt swap