I would report that
#fury
radiant plank
alpine haven
because I am an uninformed nerd
Wouldn't that just make crafted gear just the best that isn't tier pieces/trinkets
fathom valley
Can you explain? Maybe it's my monkey brain but I am always a bit scared when something has so many procs
warm crag
Wouldn't that just make crafted gear just *the best* that isn't tier pieces/trin...
idk sure? crafted gear is lower ilvl than mythic stuff tho
idle wolf
any tips on how to prioritize upgrading gear?
past pivot
droptimizer on raidbots
alpine haven
idk sure? crafted gear is lower ilvl than mythic stuff tho
thats what I figured
idle wolf
ah right ty
warm crag
you're gonna get a full set of mythic gear before you print the 10 sparks or however much you need to craft a full gear set
alpine haven
Oh yeah you need goddamn sparks
warm crag
like if ur full garbage at the game and physically cant touch mythic raids then ye
alpine haven
I am full garbage at the game
warm crag
you are not
alpine haven
I also fucking despise raiding
idle wolf
droptimizer on raidbots
sorry i meant upgrading gear i already have
warm crag
idk low level mythic can be fun you should try it
alpine haven
I do vibe with m+
edgy widget
Can you explain? Maybe it's my monkey brain but I am always a bit scared when so...
procs aren't much different from Slayer really
- lightning strikes = slayer's strike
- tblast = sudden death
- you also have burst of power, but that doesn't really do much of anything
The reason I say the design is excellent is because it has immediate payout - you don't need to wait for anything to stack up, you get buff -> you spend buff
it also finally gives Fury something many players have wanted for quite some time; a powerful direct damage multitarget option (Thunder Clap is wildly more powerful than Whirlwind) instead of just a cleave enabler
Thane is legitimately a ton of fun to play, great audio/visual feedback, and nice upfront payout... it's just not tuned particularly well atm in the single target department
noble needle
this is insanely bad for a 610 trinket right? or am i missing something
celest hearth
why are all the OGs wear radiant weapon enchant, secretly better then depths?
frank dawn
probably because of price mostly
dark frost
why are all the OGs wear radiant weapon enchant, secretly better then depths?
Think its better for mt and also much cheaper than depths.
clever belfry
on tarren atleast
those are xrealm
frank dawn
I haven't really run a bunch of enchant sims at target counts and what have you, so idk if it sims better in certain situations or not
celest hearth
o ok my server is oppisite radiant is 36k depths in 30k
frank dawn
but it was STUPID expensive at the start of the week when everyone made weapons
dark frost
Radiant is main stat right?
frank dawn
yeh, main stat + damage proc
torpid dagger
anyone played with this? if it runs good
dark frost
Yeah its probably better for multi target
dark frost
anyone played with this? if it runs good
They just buffed the damage
I think it was decent for aoe
hybrid dagger
Does Odyns fury stack? For example, when I cast Avatar on pull am I supposed to wait 4 seconds before I use Odyns Fury?
stable robin
Hey guys one question have someone a cd Macro for single target ? or can i combine all my cds in 1 Macro ?
dark frost
Keep reck and avatar separate
You can macro avatar, trinket and TR together
Keep spear separate too
stable robin
allright TY alot
dark frost
Make sure order is trinket>avatar>Roar in the macro
frank dawn
is the new movespeed enchant actually the same (worthless) as the DF one? lol
or is that just a tooltip bug
clever belfry
is the new movespeed enchant actually the same (worthless) as the DF one? lol
Its the same cause speed didn't change
It's still better than stamina honestly
700 stam on idk 220k stam can fuck off honestly
frank dawn
huh, when I put the cheap plainsrunner on something I swear my UI told me it only gave me 1% speed
but maybe that was bugged
or some weird scaling shit with the old one idk
fathom valley
procs aren't much different from Slayer really
- lightning strikes = slayer's st...
Thanks Archi, yeah visually it is stunning hope it gets tunning to the point where we can actually use it
iron portal
I also fucking despise raiding
WHY YOU EVEN IN THIS CHAT
viral jasper
Dungeons exist huh
iron portal
he is dog at them too
viral jasper
So true bestie
bitter ether
hey guys am I reading this right that mythic plus won't drop mythic track gear just a 10+ mythic vault will?
iron portal
All right i take it back
alpine haven
I try to figure out how to gear my ret paladin by asking fury chat
iron portal
That is ....interesting approach
alpine haven
: )
cinder lodge
sooo, i cannot play fury +150 ping?
frank dawn
watch the sun rise on a grateful universe
rotund ginkgo
sooo, i cannot play fury +150 ping?
above blue logs, probably not
smoky vale
do i just spam pvp for 610s
did you do the 9 purple pvp thing quest
alpine haven
you can get 9 extra heraldries
smoky vale
3 more?
alpine haven
from capping conquest
smoky vale
also you can prob buy with conquest
alpine haven
or wait
warm crag
@rotund ginkgo
smoky vale
yeah
alpine haven
I mean you can
rotund ginkgo
@warm crag
rotund ginkgo
neither
alpine haven
thats about it
alpine haven
its all coinflip
rotund ginkgo
eh is full aspirant gear fine?
smoky vale
yeah
alpine haven
yes
indigo arch
alpine haven
I mean you got full aspirant + crafted weapon
indigo arch
this a joke?
warm crag
this a joke?
broken trinket
alpine haven
Its gonna be fine
warm crag
infinite damage against 2 billion targets
alpine haven
1600 in solo bgs are probably your best choice but it takes so fucking long
indigo arch
half expected it to somehow be wordlessly split dam
alpine haven
beacuse queue timers are 10-20 minutes
smoky vale
queues are only that long for first few games
rotund ginkgo
hm
alpine haven
But yeah, 1600 gives a 606 tier piece token
alpine haven
yes
smoky vale
yes
rotund ginkgo
my pvp mog is so kawaii
merry arch
Hello Guys i was Here
rotund ginkgo
my pve is cute tho
slate escarp
why we getting nerfed in hell 😦
south kayak
Does recrafting an item remove enchantments?
heady wedge
Does recrafting an item remove enchantments?
No
south kayak
Ok ty
cinder lodge
i can play fury warrior since i play with 150ms?
velvet obsidian
Didn't get any loot from a full clear of the raid. Well, except for this boy...
past pivot
It'll last longer
velvet obsidian
True
twilit narwhal
a question about the rotation: should I get bloodcraze to 5 stacks and then bloodthirst?
since you can get a lot of raging blows, I was thinking that the optimal play was to get 5 stacks, but then again, underusing bloodthirst might be bad
buoyant salmon
its like 45% uptime
sim it against what you have
its not completely shit but not fantastic either
nocturne dragon
its not completely shit but not fantastic either
give us some fantastic list aside from arakara sacbrood, or there is no fantastic list anymore 
hasty goblet
alright thanks. i have 593 sacbrood and skamorak shard, ill sim
past pivot
Mad queen's mandate
serene vessel
im sad how many of the trinkets this season are just stat sticks
trail tendon
So guys, how are we feeling about the nerfs
latent star
anyone here have crafted the 610 pvp weapon?
rotund ginkgo
it's a whole 0.8% less in ST
spiral shell
it's a whole 0.8% less in ST
rotund ginkgo
anyone here have crafted the 610 pvp weapon?
clever path
im sad how many of the trinkets this season are just stat sticks
I’m sad at how many trinkets are on use and the on use isn’t fun lol it’s just damage or “hey do something random to get stat”
rotund ginkgo
https://tenor.com/view/nikolas-sad-chat-bubble-discord-reaction-rain-gif-1367165...
me rn
rotund ginkgo
https://tenor.com/view/nikolas-sad-chat-bubble-discord-reaction-rain-gif-1367165...
he kinda look like
spiral shell
LOL
spiral shell
What did they think they were doing with that nerf lmfao fury still gonna be on top we are never bottoms!
rotund ginkgo
we were quite literally
below augmentation in ST
for a couple of weeks in s4
or s3 idk
spiral shell
I mean tww
serene vessel
What did they think they were doing with that nerf lmfao fury still gonna be on ...
what if i like being a bottom
rotund ginkgo
the nerfs were to appease the reddit nerds
spiral shell
what if i like being a bottom
Beta
rotund ginkgo
real
spiral shell
the nerfs were to appease the reddit nerds
Yeah but that little nerf to aoe like wtf is that gonna do!?
I’m not complaining
serene vessel
its gonna nerf fury in m+
spiral shell
But might aswell not even nerf it
spiral shell
its gonna nerf fury in m+
U think so?
serene vessel
i think fury will still suffer from some of the same problems its always had in m+
spiral shell
Right
serene vessel
which is that it lacks sustained AoE, so the moment mobs live long enough that burst aoe isnt enough, you're gonna be brought for prio damage
I'd personally enjoy if they counteracted the nerf with a meat cleaver buff but it is what it is
nocturne dragon
what do you want to see about the meat cleaver buff? the cleave is maybe up from 50% to 70% or something else?
iron portal
im sad how many of the trinkets this season are just stat sticks
tbh that happens most of the time from my experience
iron portal
its gonna nerf fury in m+
Nerf? Yes. By huge amount? Dont think so just yet
nocturne dragon
Well dragonflight got quite interesting trinket choice though? At least speaking from tank perspective.
There is dreadplate which is not a stat stick, anvil, augury, signet brand.
calm quartz
I get that the nerf is not a big difference in a 5 minute 5 target sim, but m+ isn't 5 targets for 5 minutes 
serene vessel
what do you want to see about the meat cleaver buff? the cleave is maybe up from...
ya something like that so that your sustained AoE feels decent
calm quartz
Need a sky hold xdd emote
errant vessel
what do you want to see about the meat cleaver buff? the cleave is maybe up from...
55->60 would be fitting I think
Almost 10% increase on cleave dmg
serene vessel
Nerf? Yes. By huge amount? Dont think so just yet
it's not a huge nerf in raid sure, but it feels more impactful in m+ where you're not simming yourself around a 5 minute aoe encoutner
calm quartz
Especially when bs and odyns are the only "uncapped" abilities
Well roar too, but that wasn't touched
tender sky
We will see how m+ meta shakes out but I think mob density will decrease a bit from previous seasons which would be positive to fury’s kit
calm quartz
Truing
serene vessel
We will see how m+ meta shakes out but I think mob density will decrease a bit f...
a lot of people are saying this but I think itll be the opposite
tender sky
Especially when bs and odyns are the only "uncapped" abilities
Decreased beyond 8 though
calm quartz
Put a shirt on
spiral shell
That’s it I’m re rolling boomkin nice knowing yall
serene vessel
And we're never gonna be meta
weird thing to say, fury absolutely has been meta b4
calm quartz
Decreased beyond 8 though
They were always like that though, right?
tender sky
And we're never gonna be meta
calm quartz
Literally just updating the tool tips on 11.0.5
restive peak
The way the game is designed now favors range DPS
tender sky
Yes just a tooltip change
spiral shell
The way the game is designed now favors range DPS
It always has
restive peak
We're fringe meta, we have been fringe meta for several seasons, and technically this is the strongest we've been
past pivot
Almost always has
serene vessel
fury was literally meta in s2 pre aug patch
restive peak
Ofc it was, it's a bigger gap now
tender sky
Melee stonks are the highest they’ve been
restive peak
Fury was not meta pre aug S2, it was 1 of the better classes
This is going to be our strongest season in ages
serene vessel
Fury was not meta pre aug S2, it was 1 of the better classes
it absolutely was
restive peak
The nerf did nothing
serene vessel
people were literally practicing their routes for mdi or whatever it was w/ fury warriors in most of the keys
i always confuse mdi and tgp
restive peak
MDI is not meta
buoyant salmon
there was no meta before 10.1.5
serene vessel
whichever one it was
south kayak
it absolutely was
I'm definitely gonna go with Lincc on this one, it was one of the better classes but it wasn't Meta
restive peak
MDI is a literal meme
serene vessel
the one thats
restive peak
We were upper tier, as we are this tier, we were not the meta
serene vessel
about going high key
restive peak
And were never going to be the meta for TGP
serene vessel
not the 1 about doign fastest
restive peak
Anyway, pointless debate; the nerf was a slap on the wrist, and the classes above us got nerfed harder
tender sky
I don’t think the difference between the best comp vs 1 or 2 classes different will be as high as it was with the old god comp, so I think fury will be fine getting invited to groups
south kayak
When you play melee, you forgo the mentality that you're ever going to be meta lol
restive peak
Except FDK, but we've been outperforming them pretty handidly anyway
south kayak
not everything has to be meta
tawdry lily
the only meta in keys that matters is after .5, everything before is just pushing for the sake of pushing 
restive peak
I don’t think the difference between the best comp vs 1 or 2 classes different w...
This is correct
calm quartz
Fdk feels like total cheeks to play
iron portal
it's not a huge nerf in raid sure, but it feels more impactful in m+ where you'r...
You are overestimating it imo
calm quartz
No matter the numbers
restive peak
We are going to be in the best place we've been in ages
calm quartz
iron portal
Box thinking out of box
calm quartz
My honest reaction
tender sky
Def best place- no entrenched buff meta shenanigans should have more diversity in the dps classes brought to groups
restive peak
2.2% is nothing, it's so miniscule that bladestorm is still #1 in overall for M+ if you check current and remove 2.2%
spiral shell
The gap between cds on dk makes it less fun
south kayak
Well, there's not really a big gap
south kayak
your cd is mainly Pillar of Frost and that's 45 seconds
calm quartz
Right, it's literally 45 second cd waiting room
restive peak
Arcane lost 3ish %
verbal rivet
Shamans can’t have anything nice ever
south kayak
Right, it's literally 45 second cd waiting room
that's so low though lol
restive peak
We lost .6% ST, 2.2% AOE
spiral shell
your cd is mainly Pillar of Frost and that's 45 seconds
Mmm i guess
serene vessel
You are overestimating it imo
possibly. but my personal opinion rn is that people will feel the impact of the changes in m+ more
tender sky
I’ve seen some good eles in pugs but it seems their ST is lacking
serene vessel
this happens often, people underestimate just how important these changes feel in m+
restive peak
You won't feel the impact of anything because the gear you're about to get will be more than the 2.2 ever was
So you never even experienced the damage "pre nerf"
That you'll be doing in 6 weeks
tender sky
Dream comp for us is probably ele aug fury right? Or r sham and another dps
iron portal
From my limited experience, Eles did good ST when they dont have to move lol
serene vessel
lincc what does that even mean, m+ scales and everyone gets gear lol
young swan
Right, it's literally 45 second cd waiting room
we're 1.5m cd waiting room i dont see the diff
tender sky
lincc what does that even mean, m+ scales and everyone gets gear lol
It means you won’t feel the nerf
restive peak
Noone is max gear yet, you have no idea what # we would've done
cold cedar
any good tech for valorstone farm rn ?
restive peak
And the classes above us got nerfed harder
calm quartz
we're 1.5m cd waiting room i dont see the diff
I'm not waiting for runes to regen
restive peak
So w/e you think you're feeling about this, times that by 3-5
And the other classes ate that
south kayak
any good tech for valorstone farm rn ?
I guess do daily m0 and the Radiant echoes drops a lot of valorstone
restive peak
You won't feel the 2.2% nerf when your damage is gonna go up by 30% by the time you're top end damaging anyway
cold cedar
radiant echoes only drop from bountiful delves right?
south kayak
yeah
restive peak
Yeah Clove
buoyant salmon
fury has been good or better in m+ for 5 seasons straight
i dont remember if it was good in s3 sl that shit was too long ago
cold cedar
if i dont need anymore gear from m0, i think h rdf spam should give more stones ?
restive peak
Fury is always strong for M+, we are tanky and we do great cleave while maintaining ST
cold cedar
w faster clear ofc
buoyant salmon
one of the most consistently good specs besides the magus class
restive peak
If you want to be the absolute meta class, just reroll mage and get good at it, you're in safe hands
south kayak
if i dont need anymore gear from m0, i think h rdf spam should give more stones ...
I guess it could? I don't know how much more valorstones drop from m0 compared to hc
restive peak
Most classes get 1-2 seasons then they're DOA for like 3 seasons
finite kestrel
Bad CC for fury tho, especially with affixes, no?
south kayak
Bad CC for fury tho, especially with affixes, no?
What affixes
restive peak
We have fear, we have shockwave on a 25s CD, we have stormbolt, we have kick
south kayak
its the same 10stone per boss & 30 endboss iirc
ok then it's hc spam, try to do it when u get the tank satchel lol
buoyant salmon
shockwave is 25 seconds
young swan
Bad CC for fury tho, especially with affixes, no?
we have a 25s cd aoe stun with 16 yard range
buoyant salmon
utility argument was always “shockwave too hard to get”
south kayak
We might have the best aoe stun
buoyant salmon
now goalpost shifts
restive peak
This is, quite literally, the best place fury has been in awhile
buoyant salmon
etagg
restive peak
It always shifts, because people don't want to be viable
They want to be omega OP every patch
BECAUSE ITS WHAT I PLAY WAHHHH
buoyant salmon
ppl dont think viable = good they think viable = what rank 1 keys are doing a lot of the time
restive peak
The funniest is
buoyant salmon
its very rare that a spec is straight up not viable
exotic glacier
Cuz you're not Meeres
im not Meeres, Im dog,
restive peak
Exactly
Fuck man Bond gets it on ele EVERY SEASON lol
I started trying S2 DF, all 3 titles since as fury always, it's the LoL brainrot
"IT'S MY TEAM HOLDING ME BACK REEEE"
tidal kindle
If you want to be the absolute meta class, just reroll mage and get good at it, ...
Except id be in my hands then
serene vessel
You won't feel the 2.2% nerf when your damage is gonna go up by 30% by the time ...
again, it's a 2.2% nerf in a sustained 5 minute fight, it's obviously going to feel more impactful in m+ pulls.
restive peak
I will only play Zed
tidal kindle
Those are not safe
exotic glacier
people still PLAY league?
south kayak
its very rare that a spec is straight up not viable
Except for Sub rogue after Uldir
restive peak
Except id be in my hands then
Be in my hands bae
tidal kindle
south kayak
again, it's a 2.2% nerf in a sustained 5 minute fight, it's obviously going to f...
You both are talking about 2 different things
buoyant salmon
Except for Sub rogue after Uldir
i didnt play then
but an example 6 years ago proves the point
tidal kindle
Be in my hands bae
restive peak
again, it's a 2.2% nerf in a sustained 5 minute fight, it's obviously going to f...
And how impactful will the 3.4% for outlaw feel? Or 10% for enh? Or 6.2% for arcane?
restive peak
It's a ridiculous argument
rotund ginkgo
look at that devious trinket D:
restive peak
<@301095302977290241>
WE BALLLLLL
rotund ginkgo
cant believe i might use it
south kayak
If you think fury didn't deserve that nerf you're coping big time
restive peak
<a:uwu:832319129842090035>
rotund ginkgo
If you think fury didn't deserve that nerf you're coping big time
what nerf
Chatting
restive peak
I got that on my 3rd warr, used it, it's awesome
rotund ginkgo
does it make sense it wants me to go full crit???
am i trippin?
do i have too much haste rn?
south kayak
what's your haste
south kayak
ok
restive peak
Whatever the robot says, friend
south kayak
that doesn't seem too much but roboto says so
rotund ginkgo
south kayak
lmao
rotund ginkgo
base
south kayak
your crit is too low
pearl sequoia
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/nQeeFNXE6i7P3P6EgemjsT
why raadiant power enchants and not depths
tender sky
Don’t try to explain or just trust the robot. All hail our AI overlords
rotund ginkgo
Chatting
south kayak
got this today
restive peak
Man I got to 1850 in solo shuffle yday in like 2hrs, fury absolutely omega fucks in PVP rn
It's wild
tender sky
solo blitz
What do you do in the 30min queue time?
restive peak
Might get 1950 for the enchant before they nerf the burst tues xD
hard widget
Might get 1950 for the enchant before they nerf the burst tues xD
Solo shuffle 😮
iron portal
most of the time it works indeed
restive peak
I globalled a 2.1k priest yday
tidal kindle
Legit just do your PVE rotation
Stormbolt charge rampage gg
restive peak
And he was on my team the next round and just said "k"
tidal kindle
Free 1600
restive peak
Fr man
Fear healer go brrrrr
God forbid you fight double melee and they get double brrrr'd
fathom valley
Anyone else using orator larinx?
restive peak
I am Mister, whats up
fathom valley
Our ai overlords tell me my 606 larinx is better than sac brood at 606
And I found it amazing
pearl sequoia
its free 1600 anyway cuz u cant lose rating
tender sky
Yeah you can accidentally kill someone with cleave it’s definitely getting nerfed
restive peak
You must have a ton of haste gear
fathom valley
The damage is bonkers
restive peak
Whats the 2nd trinket?
fathom valley
Heroic transmitter
serene vessel
If you think fury didn't deserve that nerf you're coping big time
I think that balancing raid and m+ together is a bad system, when they prioritize different damage profiles. Fury has notoriously had not good sustained AoE, and I think fury will see issues arise in m+, which I hope they will counteract w/ a meat cleaver buff
sorry was doing a boss xd
restive peak
I passed on all 3 heroic trollmitters in my split, fuck it
pearl sequoia
mad queens has been nice, 8mil crits
restive peak
And we have insanely high AOE damage rn, powerful fixed that issue
fathom valley
We dropped 2 on our split
tidal kindle
Fury has insane sustained aoe now because you have perma 12% damage amp on anything you bladestorm
fathom valley
So I just said fuck it
young swan
Trollmitter
i wont lie its so much better with a weakaura that tells u ur task
restive peak
Yeah, I'm hoping we get a queens trinky on our splits
LOL
I'm just imagining the time the thing spawns on silken prog
On your ball
And you just look atit all sad
young swan
like the hardest part is finding out what the fuck to do
the "semi-circle" is freelo
basically just becomes a regular trinket
restive peak
Maybe next week I'll take 1 for the memes
But I'm gonna get a 616 ritual knife in vault anyway
Already decided
serene vessel
is ritual knife good?
sudden tusk
good enough to get nerfed
serene vessel
🙂
restive peak
Yeah it fucks
south kayak
reduce? lmao
restive peak
It's very rare that it does, it's a perma 1210 mastery and 3095 str otherwise at just 603
fathom valley
Maybe next week I'll take 1 for the memes
It's not that bad, except the fucking jump 3 times
restive peak
Jelly man, I got wep+trink on my alt warr...
south kayak
it's your main now
young swan
It's not that bad, except the fucking jump 3 times
jump is so fucking bad
restive peak
Main warr has no maps, and no wep/trink/neck through the entire week of 4 delves lmao
young swan
by far the worst
its "good" in the sense it doesnt interfere with gameplay
but it takes so long to complete
compared to the other 2
hard widget
Xan, im listening to french music for you
young swan
epical
restive peak
Yeah I don't want it
There are some trinkets I legit will just avoid when it's a minor increase but headache lol
buoyant salmon
Main warr has no maps, and no wep/trink/neck through the entire week of 4 delves...
why do u think i was chocotwo 3 patches in a row lol
restive peak
Ye with any luck I'll have M9+ sac/mark before raid tues
sudden tusk
There are some trinkets I legit will just avoid when it's a minor increase but h...
transmitter can get it
rotund ginkgo
What do you do in the 30min queue time?
well
sudden tusk
imagine popping that shit and its just in an acid puddle
restive peak
Right
Fuck no
I'm even a bit skeptical on the queen trink
Have to check the APL, I assume we send after CDs
But is it a root for 2s? Cuz that's sketchy AF too
Leggo all over again
May as well go be a garbage colossus arms warr and hate myself
open storm
as thane do we prio thunder blast above all?
restive peak
TB OP
long coral
opinions on upcoming fury nerfs?
rotund ginkgo
rotund ginkgo
i wish thane was good
using tc feels way nicer than using ww
tho its weird as hell lol
too used to spinny animation
brave cedar
thane or slayer better for M+ now?
nocturne dragon
thane or slayer better for M+ now?
Right now we just slayer everything.
rotund ginkgo
fr
unique frigate
Got enough crests to recraft my weapon as hc, should i?
Or just wait till can get mythic one
twilit current
would be wasting crests
unique frigate
would be wasting crests
How come?
runic cypress
He's never gonna be a real dwarf
restive peak
Cuz you can just send 90 mythic crests Tues/Wed and go to 636 immediately Enerq
delicate thicket
idk why you would even post this
restive peak
Then use those 45 heroic crests on a diff item upgrade
unique frigate
Oh true!
junior gale
Next week you will get a free heroic craft aswell
unique frigate
I wanna know too
junior gale
From killing last boss like always
jovial wigeon
you can get that his week can;'t you
junior gale
No
jovial wigeon
or do you mean the weekly quest thing
junior gale
For whatever reason it's next week
iron portal
Get 1600 rating in pvp
nocturne dragon
ah maybe that is related to the story quest that bring to the raid?
iron portal
And get free token
runic cypress
ah maybe that is related to the story quest that bring to the raid?
Huh?
junior gale
In DF you always got a quest to kill last boss which gave you a free heroic craft item
restive peak
That quest doesn't seem to exist this season
junior gale
That quest will appear again next week
iron portal
It is 2000 m+ rating, 1600 rated pvp or Kill Heroic Last boss
junior gale
According to Archi
junior gale
It is 2000 m+ rating, 1600 rated pvp or Kill Heroic Last boss
That's the achievement
iron portal
ya
runic cypress
According to Archi
What if he just made that up
iron portal
Isnt that the same thing
junior gale
No
iron portal
Or i m mixing things up
junior gale
Two different things here
junior gale
I'm talking about the heroic craft item not the free tier token
restive peak
Meh heroic crest will be useful next next week for your offpiece armor craft then
nocturne dragon
Or i m mixing things up
mixing thing up, it's not the token, it's the material you need to craft item with profession
worldly kraken
What's the point of slam?
warm crag
Meh heroic crest will be useful next next week for your offpiece armor craft the...
why did you pass on transmitter
Are you silly
restive peak
I hate it deeply
worldly kraken
Were all dumb
restive peak
Also the less loot I take from heroic
warm crag
i do hate having to jump twice before pull to gain an insane damage boost
restive peak
The more sense it is to give me the mythic shit
clever belfry
I hate it deeply
you hate it despite not having it?
runic cypress
What's the point of slam?
It's purpose is to not be bound on your bars
molten wing
i dont wanna touch / see / smell / fell
restive peak
And I mean I'll just get saccy and mark this week we ball
rotund ginkgo
two dubs
molten wing
pvp for the rest of the expansion
worldly kraken
It's purpose is to not be bound on your bars
This is exactly the answer I thought thank you
clever belfry
The more sense it is to give me the mythic shit
also makes more sense to be non bench cause ur gear is ass
iron portal
i dont wanna touch / see / smell / fell
mah man
young swan
What's the point of slam?
press it when u have no other buttons in pure ST and pure ST only
restive peak
you hate it despite not having it?
I hate clymidia and I don't have it
rotund ginkgo
pause
viral jasper
i dont wanna touch / see / smell / fell
Only challenger huh
worldly kraken
press it when u have no other buttons in pure ST and pure ST only
Ty
rotund ginkgo
pookie what is u sayin linc
38min que solo shuffle
did TWO bgs while im waiting
molten wing
Only challenger huh
that's as far as my pvp awareness goess
restive peak
He asked if I hate the trinket when I don't have it, so I named other things I don't have and hate 😛
rotund ginkgo
me
viral jasper
Pvp isnt that hard it is just pve but with more movement
viral jasper
I literally int 80% of the time and win anyway
mossy fox
i did 20wins 5 losses to 1600 2v2
junior gale
Lincc owns Ragish
alpine haven
Pvp isnt that hard it is just pve but with more movement
1600 vibes
viral jasper
1600 vibes
1800 rn
alpine haven
Yeah 1800 vibes
iron portal
honestly i got carried by weapon enchants and this
Lucky bastasrd
viral jasper
Ive been 2100 a few times
restive peak
I'm at like 1850 shuffle, shuffle was legit so faceroll man
mossy fox
wish i didnt quit pvp, it's kinda fun
alpine haven
It is
viral jasper
Pvp is funny side quest tho
alpine haven
Shuffle/bg blitz are faceroll
restive peak
wish i didnt quit pvp, it's kinda fun
Don't say this bro, this made me get the itch too
valid moon
Has anyone seen the Befouler's Syringe? Is it good?
viral jasper
I'm at like 1850 shuffle, shuffle was legit so faceroll man
I got 2100 in shuffle in 6 games df s1 lol
DH go brr
alpine haven
Yeah until you face frost or an affli who knows how to play the game : )
junior gale
Has anyone seen the Befouler's Syringe? Is it good?
It's slightly better than an equal ilvl wep in ST
viral jasper
Yeah until you face frost or an affli who knows how to play the game : )
We cook casters anyway
mossy fox
Don't say this bro, this made me get the itch too
it wasnt fun playing against deva + pres and mage + healer though
valid moon
It's slightly better than an equal ilvl wep in ST
Ty
worldly kraken
Just play the burstiest dps and you farm
This. Charge, burst damage, heroic leap away. Get hate ganked. Do it again
alpine haven
We cook casters anyway
Totally
jolly mist
bro i cannot get a weapon for my fukin LIFE
alpine haven
100%
jolly mist
give me a wep blizz
molten wing
affli is just like you keep trying to get the guy
restive peak
it wasnt fun playing against deva + pres and mage + healer though
Yeah I ran into a dev/mage/aff lock lobby and it was rough
jolly mist
jeez
alpine haven
Absolutely not being cooked by affli and frost mages rn
restive peak
Mobility creep has ruined PVP for sure
molten wing
also yeah wtf is frost mage
restive peak
And holy fuck the amount of roots
molten wing
im moving 1 pixel at a time
restive peak
WHY AM I SLOWED BY 90% AND ROOTED ALL THE TIME
alpine haven
Welcome to TWW PvP rn
rotund ginkgo
wish i didnt quit pvp, it's kinda fun
just unquit
junior gale
The whole point of pvp is just 610 crafts right?
warm crag
WHY AM I SLOWED BY 90% AND ROOTED ALL THE TIME
you are not allowed to clear your snares by bloodthirsting
mossy fox
i never played against evokers in pvp until this week
rotund ginkgo
i never played against evokers in pvp until this week
its god awful
modest condor
you are not allowed to clear your snares by bloodthirsting
just charge lol
mossy fox
whats with the mobility, roots and cc immunities lmao
alpine haven
i never played against evokers in pvp until this week
Presvoker is absurd
restive peak
Bro the perma tokyo drifting on evokers rn
alpine haven
Deva is okay
restive peak
First time I saw it I lost my mind laughing
molten wing
i think if i had 6 stacks of Charge i would still not be able to keep up with evokers/frost mages atm
alpine haven
The real bad guys in PvP rn is Unholy, Affli, Frost, Assa/sub
rotund ginkgo
charge in because if you dont, you cant reach them > they blink > ???? you lost!
warm gulch
do I get valorstones from dungeons I'm saved in?
restive peak
I played against/with 1 rogue the whole time
And I giga cranked him, he was probably bad though
molten wing
also wtf is the disco priest dmg , like wtf
rotund ginkgo
warrs can giga burst rogues tbf
mossy fox
did charge into getting rooted always stop the charge?
rotund ginkgo
unsure
alpine haven
did charge into getting rooted always stop the charge?
yes
molten wing
they are playing the black hole hero talent and they do 2/3s of their parthner dps while healing
mossy fox
i thought i was supposed to still reach the target but be rooted at the end
alpine haven
Disc is the 2nd best healer
mossy fox
damn i misremember then
cerulean badger
best 590 blue craft? with the enchanted weathered harbinger crest?
rotund ginkgo
all of em?
restive peak
damn i misremember then
It's just worse now cuz everything has a root lewl
rotund ginkgo
u will have 0 use for weathered by wednesday
just craft whichever hole u need to fill
pause
cerulean badger
why they will have no use ?
alpine haven
It's just worse now cuz everything has a root lewl
naa, root has no DR
rotund ginkgo
cuz what are u gonna use them on?
alpine haven
thats the worst part
cerulean badger
oh mythic dungs cant be upgraded wioth wiothered
valid moon
Rotation wise, what goes first BT, RB or Execute?
lunar steeple
the smf talent seems pretty overloaded im suprised it isent being used
past pivot
SMF lol
mossy fox
turns out twohanders are better than onehanders
rotund ginkgo
in other news
water is wet
crit did u always have yellow
or is that new name
:3
rotund ginkgo
ah
dire vigil
What is the ratio of Omni token to # raiders on final boss kill?
alpine haven
Crit has been pee since BfA?
rotund ginkgo
sorry im colorblind to cute people
mossy fox
Crit been yellow for ages bro
he only sees my name when im streaming 
restive peak
Crit is a certified Q T PI, I asked science
young swan
Crit has been pee since BfA?
nah it was sometime in DF
alpine haven
The fuck
restive peak
he only sees my name when im streaming <:xdx:1098666316937826444>
He uses you, how rude
rotund ginkgo
see????
young swan
cant remember if it was s1 or s2
alpine haven
was he red in BfA?
rotund ginkgo
I WASNT dreaming
young swan
was he red in BfA?
yeah
alpine haven
there we go
rotund ginkgo
wtf is red
alpine haven
He wasnt brown at least I member that
rotund ginkgo
"GIGA megabrain"
young swan
nitro colour
alpine haven
wtf is red
they are cooler than you
mossy fox
red means you can use animated emotes right
rotund ginkgo
certified checkmark moment
mossy fox
crit came to my stream and said hi
i did that and dipped
rotund ginkgo
crit literally ur first time chatting in my stream was on my raid
it was mixed emotions on my end
mossy fox
sorry i think
twilit narwhal
I was watching some logs and people were using Recklessness + Avatar + Roar within the same second, is there some macro or a way to pull it off in the same second considering they are GCD bound?
rotund ginkgo
gonna order overpriced steelseries wow merch soon :3
warm crag
just charge lol
the slayer thing is on cd cause someone put a 10% slow on me before i charged sorry
mossy fox
"yay crit came to my stream"
"wait.. crit NEVER came to my stream/even chatted?"
almost all my free time is on stream wcyd
rotund ginkgo
what does wcyd mean
rotund ginkgo
almost all my free time is on stream wcyd
lmao ik
ebon junco
@rotund ginkgo
rotund ginkgo
❤️
cerulean badger
if i craft a blue item whas the difference if i use tier 1 ironclaw ore and core alloy than if i use tier 3?
rotund ginkgo
FUCK is that
twilit narwhal
You can macro recklessness + avatar + trinket on the same button?
twilit narwhal
wow
modest condor
the slayer thing is on cd cause someone put a 10% slow on me before i charged so...
skill issue
twilit narwhal
didn't know
dire vigil
Does anyone know the ratio of Omni tokens that drop to # raiders on final boss kill?
rotund ginkgo
@warm crag IT WORKS LIKE THAT?
THATS why its so FUCKING trash
we only have 2 charges why does it even have an icd when other classes can be cc immune for 3 years
and if so, why is it a fucking 30s cd
warm crag
we only have 2 charges why does it even have an icd when other classes can be cc...
shut up you will enjoy being slowed and rooted in the frost mage matchup
pliant jackal
you guys actually do pet battles?
past pivot
when needed or alting
mossy fox
pet battle world quests are free
novel oracle
pet battle world quests are free
preach
mossy fox
just make a counter team with lvl 1 pets gg
alpine haven
Critcake Pokemon Trainer
south kayak
Lmao
mossy fox
im branching out
past pivot
In SL, I made a few million gold selling the epic battle pet you could but with charms
pliant jackal
Hey Critcake i have a question I see you use OF a lot later do you have a reason for that?
coarse gorge
see that sounds like more effort than just brute forcing with bigglesworth and 2 baby troll raptors
rotund ginkgo
sigma
mossy fox
Hey Critcake i have a question I see you use OF a lot later do you have a reason...
dunno
mossy fox
might just be sitting on it cause it's overkill or i decided i should use it
young swan
sometimes i just forget to use my 2nd OF for like 5 seconds
mossy fox
or that
warm crag
tbf its just awkward to press
young swan
get so caught up pressing cb, bb, ramp, execute
junior gale
its also just normal to wait till after BS to send your OF
young swan
yeah it feels weird to fit in when rage bar is capped
and having WW stacks makes me cringe when pressing OF
warm crag
also dont want to waste the ww charges it generates ye
young swan
voodoo upon blizzard for removing unhinged cleave
young swan
ive debated just dropping TR because of that
but its still such great QoL on the opener
junior gale
I love TR too much to drop it
young swan
pretty much the only reason that talent is picked up is because it was TURBO awkward to open with unhinged on beta without it
young swan
¯_(ツ)_/¯
restive peak
It was good because of annhil
young swan
it was good before anni tho
restive peak
IDK it's dog now
young swan
basically just other talents got better (VC)
junior gale
S1 DF fury ran it without annhil
nocturne dragon
it was good in DF
because annihilator. Now annihilator gone, 1 talent really bad. The other is meh from beginning.
restive peak
I killed rasz then quit S1, can't even pretend to be in those convos
restive peak
VC is super strong
junior gale
makes sense
restive peak
Even in AOE, it's just hard to get
But for like rash for example? It's a huge DPS increase
young swan
i doubt it
restive peak
Legit I'm 110% dropping TR
young swan
it was never worth for the damage
junior gale
sad arms and fury just shares the same problem of most T3 talents are just shit
junior gale
Man I love when I ignore EP in execute so fun!
restive peak
Revert unhinged nerf
fickle cedar
hey chat are worldsoul memories better as solo or as a 5 stack ?
nocturne dragon
how would they change it though?
golden hare
hey chat are worldsoul memories better as solo or as a 5 stack ?
defo group
young swan
hey chat are worldsoul memories better as solo or as a 5 stack ?
5 stack
young swan
how would they change it though?
just make it actually improve reck
young swan
theres a number of ways to go about it
but I also think they should remove the rage gen on reck
and thats a very unpopular opinion
pliant jackal
this expac fury feels so much more akaward to play imo
serene vessel
make recklessness give haste
mellow smelt
what weapon embelishment should i use? primarily m+
serene vessel
30% attack and move speed
young swan
make recklessness give haste
BEAN suggesting that
in fact i think u yoinked that from me
serene vessel
its possible
young swan
cause we talked about it like 3 weeks ago
trail bane
its good that they nerfed fury ST, we were a bit too dominant on that
serene vessel
that was like a week ago but ya
young swan
was it
serene vessel
yes
serene vessel
ur sense of time is fucked
young swan
yeah
smoky vale
yeah it was 1 week ago
young swan
feels so long ago
smoky vale
true
young swan
what weapon embelishment should i use? primarily m+
prob duskweave or dawnweave
serene vessel
but also i like when reck is a real coolodwn
young swan
ascension poopy in mythical plus
sudden tusk
man they gotta do somethin about the crafting prices
young swan
they cant
smoky vale
just dont tip
young swan
the only thing u can do is have money
sudden tusk
1 ring 1 neck 1 cloak and 2 weps is almost 400k
smoky vale
they could increase the amount of ore per node
nocturne dragon
that's why don't craft too much, just grind the raid and dungeons.
serene vessel
i mean they could make it so you could set public orders with a quality and the market would correct itself
smoky vale
to slightly decrease costs
sudden tusk
restive peak
ascension poopy in mythical plus
See I still disagree on this once we're into giga high keys
sudden tusk
these are the prices right now
restive peak
But duskweave for mid keys is def better
young swan
See I still disagree on this once we're into giga high keys
i mean yeah if ur chain pulling the entire dungeon its diff
but no one is doing that anytime soon
restive peak
Chain pulling + 5-6m bosses xD
smoky vale
most of the cost is concentration to get r3 mats
restive peak
But yeah, duskweave is def better for mid content
But also wep is by far the biggest dmg increase rn crafted to 636
restive peak
By the time we get to serious keys, we'll have 3 crafts
young swan
embellishment that contributes to its own uptime
nocturne dragon
most of the cost is concentration to get r3 mats
out of curiousity can we get r3 mats without concentration?
or no matter what we do we have to add a bit of concentration
restive peak
I just think in high enough keys it's gonna drop often, there's a lot of outgoing unavoidable dmg
Having said that I'll have both
sudden tusk
or no matter what we do we have to add a bit of concentration
the raw materials yes, to combined alloys no
restive peak
Like can't run ascend on Dawn/Mists ever
sudden tusk
at least rn
restive peak
Too much forced downtime
smoky vale
the raw materials yes, to combined alloys no
^^^ unless you have blue profession gear with 100 bs and all the points
so the market will be expensive for months
🙂
nocturne dragon
the raw materials yes, to combined alloys no
so even if we use the r3 raw material we still have to add a bit of concentration to get the r3 alloy?
sudden tusk
i beleive so without maxxed gear/knowledge you cant guarentee it
narrow tide
isnt it better to take Massacre on Rasha`nan since she starts on 60% hp?
hushed falcon
its cheaper
Can confirm: 3 blue bs tools and maxed alloy path makes r3 alloys from r3 mats with no concentration
smoky vale
im still team dawnweave
what even is the embellishment, i legit havent checked since im waiting till mythic
young swan
isnt it better to take Massacre on Rasha`nan since she starts on 60% hp?
no that talent is dog shit
young swan
what even is the embellishment, i legit havent checked since im waiting till myt...
its just BSL but vers
smoky vale
oh yeah broken
young swan
why?
execute is a bad button when its not pressed with slayers marks
or whatever the debuff is called
narrow tide
ah okay
serene vessel
i miss when execute was good
young swan
i miss when execute was good
legion?
smoky vale
i miss s3
hushed falcon
so even if we use the r3 raw material we still have to add a bit of concentratio...
In case ur talking about doing r3 alloys: no, 3 blue tools, 100 bs with alloy path can do it with no conc
rotund ginkgo
i was
smoky vale
bb ramp bb ramp
rotund ginkgo
FINALLY
molten wing
E X E C U T E
floral summit
Rampage 10% nerf when angry frost dk noises
smoky vale
smoky vale
and it says "defeat"
young swan
literally every time execute is good
the last time our execute button was good was legion
rotund ginkgo
junior gale
99 stack jugg you dont want it
rotund ginkgo
i havent even played war back then
smoky vale
why not
smoky vale
only reason i enjoy playing prot right now
young swan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hMqvb8QiUk
deadass im gonna start deleting this the next time people post it
this shit is so ass
rotund ginkgo
fym???????
smoky vale
is execute feels like a global
serene vessel
why not
if i had to guess, because the moment u get a mechanic that makes you drop stacks ur never recovering
junior gale
why not
boss does some bullshit that keeps you from hitting him bam goodbye jugg stacks now your dmg is garbage
young swan
literally ruined the community
molten wing
execute phase is coming
you got pots
you got cds
you start stacking juggernaut
you blast cds
you get a mechanic and you have to move and your juggernaut stacks drop
you commit sepuco ingame
young swan
if i had to guess, because the moment u get a mechanic that makes you drop stack...
correct
rotund ginkgo
literally ruined the community
how
smoky vale
gg go next week
serene vessel
its fury's uptime slave problem, but magnified in every way
rotund ginkgo
:3
junior gale
Bring back 99 stack jugg stacks but the buff is perma
calm quartz
😴
young swan
because of that shit ass video
smoky vale
goodbye e x e c u t e
calm quartz
lmao
molten wing
legit 0 reason they didn't just made jugg a debuff on the target without any duration
smoky vale
so how do we make it a global that is worth pressing
young swan
double its damage
serene vessel
so how do we make it a global that is worth pressing
literally just give it more dam
smoky vale
like pvp execute
serene vessel
or
smoky vale
shit actually cranks
smoky vale
what if 3% haste 1% dam on each stack
young swan
what if 3% haste 1% dam on each stack
not even kidding you could just add execute to slaughtering strikes and its giga (buffing rampage that is)
archi's idea (i think)
smoky vale
then we are forced into am
serene vessel
ironically i was gonna say u could just make execute empower rampage
smoky vale
and perma reck uptime
young swan
not at all
tidal kindle
because people think that 99 stack jugg is atually good
99 stack jug is good
young swan
how would we be forced into AM
smoky vale
<a:Nerd:1001457795469680680>
🤓
young swan
ironically i was gonna say u could just make execute empower rampage
yeah basically just give fury EP
in some way, shape, or form
and its gucci
also nuke rage gen and giga buff rampage so it feels sick to press
smoky vale
i just hope i dont feel like i have to play current arms or im griefing
molten wing
WTB
dense elbow
eternal sundial
jesus
young swan
also
molten wing
blast OF and you insta heal
young swan
why the FUCK didnt we get the "bt has a 15% chance to trigger again" thing
so much sick stuff to include from artifacts
that was the last time warrior got real innovation
smoky vale
would be too easy no?
junior gale
they dont care about warr