fury

[restive peak]

I wish we were just doing mains and moving on with our lives

[vivid lagoon]

I tried 5 man delves and we wiped over and over I had to solo delves

[restive peak]

Ye after w/e hotfix they did today, at least for fury, solo delves are a meme

[carmine hawk]

wdym meme

[restive peak]

Very easy

[carmine hawk]

easy again or stupid hard again

thank god

[vivid lagoon]

I kill the big dude zekvir and I get a shield lol

[keen kindle]

I'm gonna solo some delves....whenever I get off space marine 2

[vivid lagoon]

It my loot was fury

Not sure how that happened

The ships had bonus armor

Shield*

[golden badge]

do I need to craft with conquest to get 610?

[restive peak]

Does the zekvir high delve drop loot? I thought it was just an achieve and mount

[hard widget]

Yep

[vivid lagoon]

Yes it does

[keen kindle]

Tbh I just want the achieve and mount

[restive peak]

1st BG you win will give you 9 of the crafts, you can buy more for 175 conq

I crafted 4 PVP pieces, could do a 5th but at this point there's no point

I have 2 queen splits left before vault, but you could do up to 5

[vivid lagoon]

I hope o get some tier set on my vault

[restive peak]

PVP pieces go from 3-5 per btw

[vivid lagoon]

No luck at all this week

[hard widget]

Except for wep which is 10

[vivid lagoon]

Not even on normal

[buoyant salmon]

do lfr bud

[vivid lagoon]

I did

[serene vessel]

chat

[vivid lagoon]

Also didn’t get one

[restive peak]

Which is why I didn't craft wep 😛

[serene vessel]

anyone have the script to tell you if uve got ur 4 keys for the week

ty ❤️

[nocturne dragon]

is fury that overperforming? how can it be hit with nerf

[restive peak]

Yes the nerf was fair

[open storm]

you delving as thane?

[wanton mirage]

guys is it safe to craft 2H wep yet?

[restive peak]

Nope

Doin the whole experience as slayer bro

[restive peak]

Yes

[meager gyro]

If you think you’ll need the weapon, could be worth. Nothing is safe, they are going to be making changes all weekend before mythic raid is out

[buoyant salmon]

pretty much yeah

unless u plan on playing arms and highroll a myth track weapon

yes

[restive peak]

If they nerf ascend, you just recraft the next 1

[meager gyro]

Jokes on yall I will have two 626 weapons on Wednesday

[restive peak]

The other benefit to wep craft, esp to 636 Tues/Wed/whenever you cap...is a much, much cheaper 2nd wep craft

[runic violet]

Onslaught still viable for pure ST?

[buoyant salmon]

define viable

[cloud jungle]

How big is the fury nerf?

[hard widget]

Its worse

[restive peak]

Extremely miniscule

[buoyant salmon]

#updates-midnight

[indigo arch]

So when are they adding the utility they are compensating fury for the nerfs with, surely same tuesday yes?

[buoyant salmon]

utility isnt real

[meager gyro]

It’s good, play if you like.

[restive peak]

UTILITY BUZZWORD WE DRINK

CHOCO GET TO IT

[prisma nest]

Crafting to 619 this week that much of a waste you think?

[restive peak]

Yeah

You wasted 45 heroic crests for nothing

[hard widget]

Its not good, its worse than other builds in pure st

[restive peak]

I did the craft on my split warrs to help, but they're dead after this week

[meager gyro]

🪬

[young swan]

tbf our unique utility is extremely underwhelming to any meta chasing groups

we dont bring anything special

which is what anyone means when they say "utility"

[restive peak]

No I know, but you and I both know we're not becoming meta regardless

Gib banner blizz

[sudden tusk]

we got away with murder all we bring is dam and Raid Wide Obsidian Scales at double the cooldown

[restive peak]

Pls gib banner

[hard widget]

Xan just single handedly made 10 people reroll

[young swan]

if we had like any more BT synergy

and unhinged still cleaved

we might do something

but they are soooo scared of giving warrior talents that synergize well together

[restive peak]

RIP unhinged cleave

[indigo arch]

Just add skull banner back

Simple as

[young swan]

wrong

and bad

[dense shard]

https://gyazo.com/24775727d4f38dd791fcb3ad651546c5

Lets goooo

[buoyant salmon]

true but that also doesnt matter

and has literally never mattered in any season

[young swan]

no ofc not

[junior gale]

Made it out of Beta no issue just to be shot at the last minute

[reef prairie]

Dumb question. Where do I find the "tooltips"

[buoyant salmon]

what tooltips

[hard widget]

Dont ask choco kekw

[buoyant salmon]

this is an example of a tooltip

[young swan]

but it makes taking warrior more palatable to anyone putting groups together

[buoyant salmon]

[young swan]

if we have cool utility that does cool stuff people are more likely to make concessions when they otherwise wouldnt

[hard widget]

Next patch notes:
Added cool utility that does cool stuff

[young swan]

which is really the argument people have been trying to make but articulating like absolute shit

[slim coral]

Turn warrior into mage

[buoyant salmon]

i dont disagree but also a lot of classes have 'cool' utility that just doesnt really matter

[slim coral]

boom instantly meta

[buoyant salmon]

soothe/shroud/traps all super irrelevant in recent time

[restive peak]

Poor shamans

[young swan]

MD

was disgusting

for a whole season

(on top of spriest being broken as shit)

[hard widget]

Mind soothe too

[buoyant salmon]

md had a lot of value but if spriest didnt do obscene damage with the best damage profile possible, you wouldnt bring spriest

[young swan]

u wouldve just brought a healer priest instead

cause MD was disgusting

[buoyant salmon]

you would either bring a healer priest (only role where utility can matter) or just no priest at all and thug it out

[young swan]

also PI

[buoyant salmon]

though thugging it out in that season wouldve been pretty egregious

[young swan]

is fucking foul

disgusting ability

needs to be removed

[buoyant salmon]

pi means priest will literally never be balanced

[restive peak]

Kill priests agreed

[buoyant salmon]

and was the reason priest was dogshit for so long

[restive peak]

And yep

[meager gyro]

I figured this is the right place to ask. Are the fire mage buffs enough to me they’re back?

[restive peak]

Priests don't understand PI is a bad thing

[buoyant salmon]

bc if they were good they would just give their pi away and still be good

[restive peak]

It makes them either amazing or bad

[young swan]

are u dumb

[hard widget]

They never left

[restive peak]

They can never be mid

[buoyant salmon]

LMFAO

[reef prairie]

Is there somewhere i can look to see what the best warriors are wearing/crafting/enchanting? So I can work on slot by slot kind of thing

[young swan]

u can stalk people on WCL/r.io

[restive peak]

Raiderio and WCL in the next 2 weeks

[young swan]

thats about it

[restive peak]

Fire mages being dead is fun

🙂

[young swan]

correct

[reef prairie]

Thank you!

[young swan]

wizard meta boring as fuck

[hard widget]

Just so arcane can take the top dawg spot

[young swan]

melee meta at least has the chance for prot to see play

[restive peak]

I hate arcane

[hard widget]

I hate mage

[restive peak]

Arcane is so dogwater

[hard widget]

Idc which spec

[meager gyro]

Arcane on beta did 30% more boss dmg than the next best spec that’s right I know things

[buoyant salmon]

true but its much more likely u bring a guardian druid rsham and warrior dps over something like pwar resto enhance or something similar

[restive peak]

Our discord name

[buoyant salmon]

atleast in my opinion

[junior gale]

Casters deserve the hate its ok

[sullen dove]

isnt prot's whole shtick being immovable hp bar until a certain key level and then they have 0 things to deal with anything

[young swan]

idk people seem to think prot is gonna be disgusting cause a couple abilities became blockable

[buoyant salmon]

prot warrior is basically immune to damage in every situation besides specific bosses that own

[meager gyro]

If you duck with casters then duck you too 🦆

[buoyant salmon]

i think its a heavily underutilized class but i also play a lot of prot warrior

so biased opinion

[slim grotto]

bro 3 delves, 3 of the exact same ring. what the actual fuck

[open storm]

any mountain thane players?

[meager gyro]

Sup

[vagrant cave]

I want it to be at least be viable :*(

[open storm]

do you just TC for WW stacks and then after using the proc what is prio just normal fury stuff?

[hard widget]

Since when is there so much Thane copium

[reef anvil]

Whats the weapon consumable for dps

[hard widget]

Idk the exact name, something algari potion

[reef anvil]

I meant like whats the name for sharpening stone

or something

[covert blaze]

algari mana oil

[hard widget]

U beat me to it

[reef anvil]

Thank you

[edgy widget]

you basically TC on CD, but yes

[meager gyro]

yeah even in ST, you keep the WW aoe talents and TB prio. the other prios are still the same for ST. Are you on about AOE more?

[nocturne dragon]

this ring is nice, for my prot but I never got it D:

[meager gyro]

Archi is the man, check the #dps-faq links to see prios like this one based on your talents

[pale sable]

whats the to-go pure patchwerk ST build atm? thanks in advance

[young swan]

https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/1237307390865571890

[pale sable]

❤️

[meager gyro]

is this the right one ?

[young swan]

yeah

[meager gyro]

but no SMF

[young swan]

yeah

[red burrow]

Mountain Thane isn't viable? I thought it was competing in m+ at least. It's that far behind? That's lame. I find mountain Thane to be more interesting.

[vagrant cave]

So what would it take to finally make SMF viable? Whats holding it back?

[young swan]

u can play it if u want but the ST is substantially behind, so while it technically does more aoe damage in sustained pulls, most people will opt not to play it

[young swan]

passive instead of a talent

[red burrow]

Well that's poop. Though I agree thunder blast does not feel like the big nuke button it should be.

[meager gyro]

you can play it just fine, if you prefer MT for m+, play MT. It will be less potential dps overall in a key. There isn't any content that demands one or the other unless you are pushing keys well beyond the new +14s

[frank leaf]

Hi I play war prot and when I switch to fury when I'm asked I'm only one-handed weapons someone could create me good talent for play with one-handed weapons fury in raid ?

[young swan]

find the lowest dps gain talent and drop it for smf

[wind sentinel]

Awww yeah mountai thane buffs on the horizon look out world

[chilly plume]

What's the expected approximate dps loss in ST with BS/OF nerfs

[young swan]

in ST its prob deft experience or SD, in aoe its prob titanic rage

[young swan]

https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/1234949058121171069

[random bough]

Nerf

[meager gyro]

[chilly plume]

copy ty

[grim topaz]

still Bis sacbrood after nerf?

[young swan]

unless if u wanna play double on use, yeah

[meager gyro]

Here's what I do currently for simming full ST slayer. @frank leaf

you can lose one of these three points in the normal build. You can't really lose bloodcraze like I want b/c then you also lose deft. Therefore I just take one point out of Critical Thinking (bottom right).

[brittle snow]

I hear Mountain thane is getting buffed

[nocturne dragon]

mini buff

[meager gyro]

#updates-midnight

[frank leaf]

Okay ty man !

[burnt stone]

brothers
I'm in a raid with 30 people.
Is it normal for the cpu load rate to be this low? I'm using amd 7500f

[brittle snow]

So not much of a difference then lol

[young swan]

this raid is optimized horribly and yeah 30 people will make ur pc die

[meager gyro]

they're saying it isn't using cpu much

[young swan]

ojh

thats not the issue ive had

[meager gyro]

long as your GPU stays at/near 100% usage, the CPU usage is what it is. Nothing to be concerned about.

[young swan]

or that ive heard other people having

[hard widget]

Check if u have “ray tracing” enabled

[meager gyro]

If it's less than expected, your Raid Settings might be super low.

[hard widget]

Thats the only thing i can imagine

[burnt stone]

If the frame rate was normal and there were no stutters, I wouldn't care if the CPU load rate was low, but it stutters for about 30 seconds after starting the battle.
Isn't a 7500F, 32GB RAM, and 4060ti system for an FHD monitor sufficient? What's the problem? I don't even use ray tracing.

[edgy widget]

cpu usage is a notoriously misleading metric, I wouldn't put much stock in it

and yeah that should be fine, especially if you're not maxing settings in raid - unfortunately, troubleshooting these kinds of issues is a real pain

[burnt stone]

I'm currently resetting the bios and reinstalling WoW lol

[edgy widget]

as much as I hate to say it, your best option is likely to back up all your interface & wtf, then do a clean install of WoW

[lyric saddle]

yo archi do you think its safe to say blizzard will not tuned embellish?

[edgy widget]

see if that fixes anything, then slowly start adding your addons and such back in

[lyric saddle]

since they already post the tuning stuff

[edgy widget]

a lot of addons, especially bloated ones like Elvui can cause performance hits

as well as loads of ancient weakauras, etc

[meager gyro]

bloodlust lasts 30 seconds 😉

[meager gyro]

make sure you have spell density set to essential before you try anything else.

[burnt stone]

That's how I set it up

I'm angry because I wasted the opportunist buff due to frame drops.

I had the opportunist buff and my rage was over 80, but because of the stutter, I cry every time RB is cast.

[gray void]

are nerfs live already

?

[junior gale]

next week

[gray void]

ait ty

[summer geyser]

That mountain thane buff for fury specifically is pretty laughable

[edgy widget]

tbf +/-3% is a common tuning number for blizz at this stage
the laughable part is how far down thane's ST is to begin with

[rustic seal]

anybody been able to do let me solo him since the most recent hotfix? tried both prot and fury, prot couldnt kill eggs fast enough and fury got meleed for like a million

[pearl sequoia]

@edgy widget is Mad Queens mandate better then shard? i got the normal version

[edgy widget]

SkarShard? They're very different trinkets

[pearl sequoia]

i feel like fury pad in raid u might get more value out of shard

but the ST dps on queens trinket is pretty nice

[edgy widget]

SkarShard is a multitarget trinket, you get bonuses for enemies dying
Mad Queens is a pure ST trinket

[burnt stone]

Personally, I don't like the system where you have to make good use of the opportunist buff.
This aura is different from other general auras in that it is created and consumed a little more slowly.
It's hard to react appropriately

[edgy widget]

Mad Queens is generally better, but I'm not 100% sure in accounting for potential add kills

[edgy widget]

where you have to make good use of the opportunist buff.
You really don't, it's a very minor optimization

honestly I highly suggest you don't bother to track it; just save yourself the bandwidth

[lyric saddle]

i think it feels better using skarmorak

unless you snipe add to reduce the CD of mad queens

[edgy widget]

it's seriously like a +2k dps optimization

[lyric saddle]

right now im using mark and mad queens and it feels bad ahah

i hate using double use trinket

[pearl sequoia]

Yea thats gross

[next summit]

yeah i 99 parsed 2 fights and 95+ parsed 3 fights

and the only weakaura i have is to track ww stacks lol

opportunist wa would probably cause me to do less damage worrying abotu ti

[covert blaze]

i was thinking the same thing

[meager gyro]

there's really no way for MT ST to be up to par b/c of the way TB scales on aoe talents, so we lose ST talents. Are you in a discord where there is a way to suggest to a dev that it's fundamentally flawed in this way?

[burnt stone]

I think it's important to consume Opportunist Aura as much as possible through CB.
Perhaps because this aura is created by tracking the amount of RB's charge, the aura's creation is a bit slow.
When Rage is above 80 and below 100, when I input Rb, I see that the aura is not created, so I input RB again, but the aura is generated late and is often consumed in vain.
I think it's better for your mental health to not pay attention to what you're saying.

[edgy widget]

I think it's important to consume Opportunist Aura as much as possible through C
it's really not, it's seriously like a 2k optimization

out of close to 1.5m dps

it's so insignificantly small

[teal pine]

I also feel like just seeing that your rb reset is enough

No need to track the aura

[edgy widget]

it's like using storm bolt during bladestorm for damage small

[restive peak]

I'm forcing it as often as possible because it feels more fun to try, but when I forget and hyperfocus on something else my DPS doesn't change lol

[edgy widget]

I just don't bother to track extra shit

[restive peak]

ADHD brain

[edgy widget]

there is a cost to everything

[restive peak]

It sounds so dumb but the more I have to focus on, the better I play xD

[next summit]

@teal pine 0.13% optimization

if you do it perfectly

[sour tundra]

Dps warrior nerfed are we dead spec now

[teal pine]

I mean like linc said, if I have the brainpower at that moment to look for it I do. If I’m dealing with mechanics or whatever else I don’t stress about it

[burnt stone]

I know it has little effect on dps, but I wanted to make it as perfect as possible.
But now I just want to input rampage when the rage is 80

[gray void]

any possibility for this trink to be better than 593 sacbrood

it says its a 7k dps increase but idk(?)

[sullen dove]

ya i mean free mastery and strength

and sometimes u lose some secondary

think its like the only good delve trink

[gray void]

do we know how often the - effect procs?

[sullen dove]

idk but in a 2 and a half minute wipe of ansurek dont think it procced once

not terribly frequent

maybe 10%

[restive peak]

Ye that thing is sick, used it on my 3rd warr this week

And I pumped

[gray void]

woah okay

didnt expect that honestly

ty boys

[runic violet]

I like it so far

[gray void]

😎

[sullen dove]

me as soon as i can get like 100 more conquest somehow

pvp gearing for pve most cringe thing in the game

[runic violet]

the proc rate is very low.. so it's safe

5~10%

[gray void]

y sucks, i only did it for the neck

i had like a 584 awful stat neck

[prime roost]

Bladestorm damage reduced by 10%.
Odyn’s Fury damage reduced by 15%.

why

we are not even s tier

[meager void]

https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/1234949058121171069

[runic violet]

is that in effect right now?

[prime roost]

why they are not nerfing shaman enhance

why fury

[restive peak]

We're not S tier on which tier list?

[steel shadow]

Should I be making sure to have 3 sudden death stacks before bladestorming?

[restive peak]

Shaman got nerfed 3x as hard as us numerically, possible more

[steel shadow]

Post opener that is

[meager void]

enhance was nerfed...

[restive peak]

No you send those stacks to get BS up quicker

[meager gyro]

lol they did nerf enhance by a lot

[indigo arch]

hopefully it's the last tuning, fury for the first time in idk when is actually good on first season

[runic violet]

I blame the burst damage.

Things die way too quick

[steel shadow]

I guess rather

[runic violet]

and whoever has highest burst gets the pie.. and we do

[steel shadow]

Do I wait till I have 3 iminent demise stacks before bladestorming or no

[fleet cargo]

Just saw the recent changes about us, as a thane player its very good to me but beside that OF nerf is bit tough ..

[brittle crow]

you should always have 3 before bladestorming if ur doing ur rotation right

unless u mean on pull

u dont wait on pull

[slim coral]

I would say fury actually kinda moved up

with the S tier classes getting nerfed

[brittle crow]

the 3rd stage of grief

[slim coral]

not really

[summer crater]

How many warriors do you have? 🤣

[strange basalt]

we barely got touched and were already insane in burst aoe, well be fine

[sullen dove]

not enough

[upbeat plume]

yeah were sitting okay, good aoe, favorable add fights, and not terrible ST compared to some tiers

granted our tier is still dog shit but probably not gonna get fixed since were doing good during heroic week

[clever path]

Are people using their sparks now or still holding on?

[brittle crow]

hold

!

[upbeat plume]

I personally held cause they might tune embelishments

[slim coral]

I mean you can send the spark on the weapon imo

but don't send on embellishment

[covert blaze]

[slim coral]

[buoyant salmon]

off topic bc this is fury, but its worth to track as arms, right?

atleast after 4p*

[gray void]

hoooly pumping my man nice

[buoyant salmon]

did u use all ur crests lol

[buoyant salmon]

ok this is pretty cope

[covert blaze]

no

[buoyant salmon]

arcane nerfs were very insignificant and enhance/outlaw are both still really good

[slim coral]

Enhance got hit pretty hard tho

tbf

[fleet cargo]

Guys you might find this stupid but.. i still want to give a tip about thane hero tree and fury talent trees, take both gathering clouds and frenzied enrage and see how thane become strong.. very hasty rotation and more thunder blast procs also bloodthirst procs..

[buoyant salmon]

yes but enhance was also pretty fucking busted

[slim coral]

also they need to buff this damn tier set

[gray void]

also is there anyone that didnt receive a delve map yet

[slim coral]

tf are they doing

[gray void]

or is it just me in 13 keys

[fleet cargo]

That talent changes made my gameplay much better

[brittle crow]

wtf is opportunist

[slim coral]

[brittle crow]

ppl try to optimize around that wtf

just mash rb like a real fury player it optimizes itself

[steel geyser]

So the nerfs coming Tuesday. Are we needing to consider thane for M+ or is arms getting some possibility??

[upbeat plume]

the nerfs are barely nerfs

read the updates channel

[steel geyser]

Bladestorm and odyns are a big portion of your dungeon dmg

[sullen dove]

what is this funnelled little piggy

[covert blaze]

not really

they didnt give me H silken weapon

could have 9 more ilvl on offhand

[brittle fulcrum]

is the oppressive orators larynx any good for fury?

[sullen dove]

which doesnt change that overall number anyway

and wait

[covert blaze]

we doing ethical splits

[sullen dove]

offhand???

what is your mainhand

[covert blaze]

619 too

[sullen dove]

619 what...

[covert blaze]

i sent heroic crests on weapon

[sullen dove]

not you too..

[covert blaze]

idgaf about losing 45 hero crests

[sullen dove]

ur gonna care next week when your kitted out in m+ loot that u have -3 upgrades on

[haughty token]

is blessed wpn grips embellishment bad?

[fleet cargo]

Ez solution:switch to thane

Trust me its not that bad

[fleet cargo]

And this change made my thane much better

[steel geyser]

I mean if that’s what’s better then I will but does your ST end up super low compared to slayer?

[fleet cargo]

Ah i always forget

İ always write in m+ wise

Raid is not my prio

[still berry]

whats the easiest delve today?

[fleet cargo]

Also .. speaking for myself.. did many m0s this week with many people and difference was so little with 1st and 2nd dps at boss fight at dungeon(assume im 3rd), i dont count me being 1st and 2nd

[steel geyser]

Ok thank you for the info

[inner juniper]

where can i see mythic+ build?
in faq there is only leveling talent

[olive wraith]

Wowhead

[meager gyro]

yeah use the guides, wowhead being the cleanest looking one imo, but I like to look at rotations on IV

[rotund steppe]

bacc

so

we actualy got nerfed

[upbeat sentinel]

Is there a recognized "best" setup for Bran?

[trail viper]

if we dont loot the boss in raid, do we miss out on the crests?

[rotund steppe]

i think the game sends it to you via mail

[vivid lagoon]

Where is people even looking at any info about warrior being nerfed ?

[vague copper]

wowhead

[patent tundra]

thane experts

do i prio BT as thane

or Raging blow

[vivid lagoon]

That nerf is so little compared to other classes

Lol

Warrior still op

[fleet cargo]

Will not be a full answer but.. u have to prioritize bt only when u got 2 stack of that , that makes bt powerfull

Comes from hero tree

Cant remember

[rotund steppe]

sir, we dooming here

[patent tundra]

is that the only case?

when it gets prio

[fleet cargo]

For me yes

İ dont say its general rule

[vivid lagoon]

I have been playing warrior since burning crusade and it’s always samething but and the end of expac warrior is the God of late game

[nocturne tree]

Its a while to late game

[hollow shell]

I did a 12 minute fight on 5 targets last night and I finished on almost 2mil dps and Odyns Fury + Bladestorm together was only 20% of my damage

So the 10% and 16% nerfs to each is gonna be pretty small amount of damage lost overall

[fleet cargo]

And it gets very juicy when it benefit from RA and 60 percent crit from bloodcraze

[vivid lagoon]

We are fine there is a lot of aoe fights warriors should always be on top dps charts

[brittle crow]

how do we get cds to line up for add phases on 1st boss

i forgor if they do it naturally or not

[brazen palm]

can i macro tempered potion with my recklessness?

[vivid lagoon]

Yes

[brazen palm]

schweet!

[quaint forge]

how are we feeling about the nerfs boys?

[brittle crow]

fury is dead

roughly 2% worse from what i hear

[brazen palm]

wait we got nerfed?

[quaint forge]

https://www.wowhead.com/blue-tracker/topic/us/class-tuning-incoming-september-17-1954931

[fleet cargo]

What... İm more of happy with those changes.. as a thane ofc 😂😂

[quaint forge]

I was gonna ask... is Thane now viable?

[fleet cargo]

İ play m+

Cant talk about raid

[quaint forge]

Same, for the most part.

[fleet cargo]

İts very good

Speaking for myself.. the other ddudes in party was always over 595

While i was 580ish

And at the end of dungeon i was. Either at top or 2nd

[quaint forge]

I'll play around with it tomorrow.

[fleet cargo]

Quick tip: try with both gathering clouds and frenzied enrage talent .. u will be amazed cuz of that hasty rotation and many more procs

İ copied m+ build first from whead

İt was so slow like hell

İ mean the playstyle, haste and procs are what thane needs i think

[pure echo]

Man, I understand blizzards want to nerf warrior burst aoe, but I wish they’d compensate it with sustained aoe with WW cleave, or something. Maybe change some capstone talents or something. Tired of these mages and rogues running M+

Maybe thane could be worthwhile for pushing when the season opens

[fleet cargo]

İts good in some way.. i Hope i will not take aggro instantly cuz of my bursty aoe opening..

[ashen socket]

I mean

The nerf is so small that its fine

Ur gonna get gear

[pure echo]

Lmao. That’s tank problems.

[ashen socket]

and not even realize

you got nerfed

[gray void]

y nerf aint that big

[pure echo]

Yeah, i’m talking very specifically for M+. We’ll be fine in raid

[gray void]

dw abt it

[pure echo]

Would be cool to be a fury or arms meta M+ season, or if not meta like a close second-fifth pick lmao

[cold field]

Do we get a catalyst charge every week?

[pure echo]

I’ll prob get stuck playing prot anyway

[gray void]

2 weeks

[fleet cargo]

A tier guaranteed 😂

[pure echo]

Yeah, but melee without lust/brez, meaningful AOE stun, hard CC will likely drop us to B, or C

[fleet cargo]

Ah utility part .. yeah damnit

[pure echo]

I’m happy we got shockwave but 2s is shortttt

Yeah, guess we’ll see if utility is what makes or breaks keys this season.

[wanton mirage]

how good is skyterror corrosive organ

[pure echo]

It sims very well for me. Better than Ara Kara at 606

[lofty delta]

anyone else not able to log in?

[pure echo]

Right now organ+larynx trinket from city sims highest

Mad queens is good too

[young swan]

@sullen dove give me ur treachorous transmitter WA

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1211155326015901716/1260352839151259678/image0.gif

[sullen dove]

its not gr8 and i wish i could turn the sounds off kinda annoying

cuz it cant tell if its platform or ball

[young swan]

i need the sounds

[sullen dove]

but just kinda helps at least to know "jump" or "look for something"

the looking still an issue in the middle of a fight but w/e

also just googled treacherous weakaura lul

https://wago.io/1c4_jZrxa

i think this one?

[exotic glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/rainbow-spongebob-imagination-gif-12578025929975487747

[molten wing]

so how are delves now haven't had the chance to check after the fix

[quaint forge]

lol fix

[neat gazelle]

BT>RB in aoe and RB>BT in st? Right

[main cave]

just did a 3 man with tank,heal, dps and it was fine. totally dps was like 1m too

so things took a bit to die but didnt feel hard

[lunar fiber]

Are these nerfs gonna out us on the lower end of the dmg?

[meager gyro]

the nerfs did nothing, we still good and esp in raid #updates-midnight

[untold yacht]

Is the hotfix 10% dmg live or from Wednesday?

To bs

[soft merlin]

How fucked ar we boys ?

[untold yacht]

We are fine, but is the hot fix live ?

I mean class tuning ofc

[spiral shell]

Tuesday?

I believe

[untold yacht]

U

Y

[uncut ember]

anyone know how much of a % the warrior nerf is?

[exotic glacier]

More than 1 less than 12. Glad slow mode is off again. Check warrior updates for real answer

[soft merlin]

Why not just wait tell more data comes out for 4 piece tier blizzard hates fury

[young swan]

ty brother

[sullen dove]

[exotic glacier]

The raid really highlights warrior strengths and so we appeared to be over performing. We are still just fine.

Our burst is down a bit but overall not a giant change. Padding just isn’t as easy.

[ashen socket]

Lets fucking go

4 piece week 1 for the 4th time in a row

[exotic glacier]

Week one 4 piece Jesus.

[sullen dove]

what maniac givin u that shit..

[exotic glacier]

Sort of a waste

[ashen socket]

Lol

[exotic glacier]

Our tier is pretty trash this season.

[ashen socket]

Myself

[sullen dove]

[ashen socket]

I have not felt pain

in my forearm

in years

[exotic glacier]

Make sure to stretch.

608 ilvl too. So what do you plan to do until s2 comes out?

[ashen socket]

M+

maybe more pvp

alts

Frost feels good as an alt so

[celest lintel]

I am leveling my warrior as fury, anyone know why I keep getting 1h weapons from dungons/quests? my loot spec is set to fury

[ashen socket]

set loot spec to arms

never have it as fury

[celest lintel]

they are like 100 ilvl upgrades

oh

[ashen socket]

Yeah

[celest lintel]

ok thanks

[ashen socket]

np

[velvet obsidian]

Full cleared raid on normal with pugs. Very cool. Not a single piece of loot dropped for me. Very sadge.

[covert blaze]

One upping once more

[covert blaze]

I found one and edited you might find it useful https://wago.io/xWkCDegWH

[young swan]

nah this one is good

pogging out

[civic echo]

should i use valorstones and carved crest to get everything between 606-610 then use the pvp stuff to craft a 610 weapon?

my current weapons at 593 and 590 lol

[exotic glacier]

So now you have time to troll in here, right? Because there’s nothing to do after 1 week of the season.

I feel like I’m doing ok with a 600 ilvl and no tier pieces. Thanks all for returning the inferiority complex that I put down briefly

[covert blaze]

Do I troll here

[exotic glacier]

I was hoping you’d start.

[naive swallow]

vault question , if i did 8/8 norm and 8 X tier 8 delves , would the raid trinket show up on the delve slots?

[brittle crow]

ppl got 4 piece?

i dont have 1pc yet

[civic echo]

same did all normal half of heroic so far and only got random wrist from normal

[south kayak]

Yo how are delves now

[brittle crow]

delves r doable now

[broken hornet]

What demon raid gives the spec with the worst tier set bonus, tier?

[brittle crow]

idk about as fury but as prot totally

[civic echo]

i duod them earlier with rogue friend as fury

[broken hornet]

[unkempt galleon]

i crafted cloak and bracers with duskweave am i cooked

[willow cradle]

Why would you be?

[unkempt galleon]

for not making sword

[willow cradle]

I mean that depends on a couple things

like how easily accessible Mythic track weapons are for you

and what content you do

[brittle crow]

ur brain is cooked since we've been telling u weapon this entire time

idk about gameplay wise tho

[willow cradle]

You'll be fine with Cloak and wrist

worse case scenario you use a hero track weapon for 4 more weeks

[unkempt galleon]

yea i thought i'd end up playing arms

true

[ashen socket]

color me impressed

[brittle crow]

wtf does RUNED mean

??

[civic echo]

it's like a rune but with a d

[rocky sand]

Guys i got hero and champion track axes from delves, should i still craft the weapon?

[blissful delta]

craft a shield 🙂

[brittle crow]

champ track is old news pal

we are all decked in full hero track

[teal zenith]

Do Fury warriors have a cap on mastery?

[rocky sand]

Fuck

[blissful delta]

its lik 30k or some shit

[rocky sand]

I go arms

[brittle crow]

the life of a fury main

[teal zenith]

Warrior Mastery rating cap is in the 30k's?

[brittle crow]

no weapons by end of 1st week? switch arms

gg

[blissful delta]

something insanely high, you wont reach it

[teal zenith]

awesome, but Arms Slayer currently highest performing spec?

[maiden drift]

So you just aim to get as much pieces with mastery as possible and go for kinda even haste > versa > crit or whats the % share of each substat?

[civic echo]

have people used their sparks yet

[teal zenith]

My current Stat 12% crit, 20% Haste, 42% Mastery, 3% Vers.

[maiden drift]

so mainly Mastery Haste with some in crit vers?

I think I'm around 16 crit, 14 haste, 41 mastery and 7 vers

[teal zenith]

how are you simming/ what is your item lvl?

[vivid lagoon]

I got this shield today from zekvir lol

[maiden drift]

patchwerk 5 min?

[teal zenith]

yeah?

[maiden drift]

around 955k with 601

[teal zenith]

im sitting at 597 pushing around pushing around 100k less then you. TUFFF

[maiden drift]

[teal zenith]

hmm i wonder what it is...?

[radiant plank]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/933386399279878154/991343673419763753/caption.gif

[civic echo]

i'm 598 and sim at 717k?

wtf

[sullen dove]

do u have the right talents

[teal pine]

could be enchant diff

[sullen dove]

enchant diff???

enchants maybe like 100k i'd say idk

[civic echo]

those are my talents for st

[teal zenith]

Talent tree link? ❤️

[civic echo]

is it wrong?

[teal pine]

if you have no enchants and the other guy is full enchants its a pretty big difference

[civic echo]

i stole it from the top guys on warcraft logs

[sullen dove]

uh seems right ig...

[civic echo]

yeah i have no enchants or anything

and 590 weapons

[sullen dove]

yea idk i mean depths are pretty huge

if u can get even rank 2's

massive bumpy

[civic echo]

gonna do more delves tomorrow then do crafts and get enchants i guess

hope i dn't get a 6th delv cape

[sullen dove]

big cape collector

[civic echo]

it's tilting tbh lmao

[sullen dove]

ya i got like 4 helmets

kinda odd

[civic echo]

my friend i duo them with is a rogue and he got 610 and 603 weapons

i'm just sitting there like the fk am i gotta do with my cape collection

[sullen dove]

make a nice tablecloth

[versed frost]

my t8 delves so far: 2h sword, neck (useless), ring (ok), trinket (usless), cape, chest

[civic echo]

i reallly need a weapon and a trinket or i'm about to just upgrade a pvp trinket

[eager relic]

....

[civic echo]

you don't wanna see my tinket situation

[eager relic]

TEARS OF SIN???

[noble island]

Relateable

[civic echo]

oh lmao is that you poseidon?

[trail sapphire]

is it worth crafting the weapon or should we hold out? any embellishment nerfs?

[eager relic]

Lmaoo

[civic echo]

lmaoooooooo

[noble island]

These questions have been popping up for years, i remember back in legion this Channel had so many questions regarding stats

[pale atlas]

How bad does the nerfs hit m+ fury?

[teal zenith]

did some tweaking, got it to 913k LETS GOOOO

[maiden drift]

LETS GO

Also I'm fully enchanted

even with R3 weapon enchant on my main hand.

[vivid lagoon]

Nothing at all fury still king

[pale atlas]

Nice awesome love playing warrior again

But ngl those mythic dungeons are really melee unfriendly

[shrewd drum]

Only burst was affected right? Sustain should be close to pre-nerf

[white stream]

Yeah

[shrewd drum]

At least tanks will get proper aggro now xD

[blissful delta]

let me borrow 100k

[pale atlas]

Is our tier set again "useless" like it sometimes was in DF ?

[exotic glacier]

It’s definitely not GREAT.

But it is still TECHNICALLY a dps increase

Just less than other classes

[naive swallow]

wdym , tiersets

fury had tier sets before?

no not that i know of my guy

[exotic glacier]

The set bonuses for fury

[eager relic]

I think he's making a funny

[pale atlas]

If it would Affect also reap the storm it be knteresting

[blissful delta]

guys just swap to powerful enrage and no nerfs gg ez fury is alive again 😄

[junior gale]

Im curious what addon does this export into?

[wanton cliff]

Are delves back on menu again ? Saw some bluepost about it

[naive swallow]

im wondering if raid gear would show up on delve slots

[storm igloo]

IL 619 weps let's gooo

[maiden drift]

[maiden drift]

u got a 610 in delves?

[storm igloo]

Nah cleared 4 HC last night and used crests for crafting

[forest berry]

I woke up to a nerf what a bad start of the week end 😢

[maiden drift]

ah right hc is open too I forgot :D

[storm igloo]

First 4 bosses very easy

[orchid sparrow]

So, after the nerf will Thane be more popular or slayer still a boomer

[ashen pendant]

any reason to not craft the 2h axe over the sword if mats are cheaper?

[naive swallow]

when would undercoin cost be halved

what delve tier should i be reaching

atm 8

[maiden drift]

for me it's bc I can craft the sword myself but not the axe :D

[lean otter]

hi guys is my ilvl % parse low because of my guild taking too long to kill boss resulting in less % of the time being in bloodlust?

[orchid sparrow]

If you cannot craft both, there is no any difference between the axe and the sword. Since you can cover it with XMOG anyway

[forest berry]

i would say yes but not 100% sure

[orchid sparrow]

Could be lack of time or Fury player born to be the details meter pumper

[ashen pendant]

got it ty

[forest berry]

priority craft is 2h weapon right ?

[restive narwhal]

Are Delves fixed now ?

[quaint stag]

What crests do we need to craft the sword with embellishment? Or hold off to get mythic crests to craft?

[lean otter]

yes and the parse was without power infusion or mark of the wild

[hybrid dagger]

what website is this?

[forest berry]

i guess delves are still a pain to do as a solo

[safe kindle]

as fury with 597gs it´s totaly eazy

[proud vessel]

find it difficult to see swirlies on the ground sometimes because there is so much clutter any setting i can change to make that better?

[forest berry]

my brann is so damn useless

[peak lagoon]

ready to slay the heroic spider gyat

[forest berry]

Nice gear

[dusty aspen]

Just a bit. The web bolts still truck. Id recommend using brann as a healer, abusing los, and pulling one at a time with heroic throw as much as you can. A lot of mobs you think are tied together aren't

[peak lagoon]

i heckin love pvp

[flat river]

Hello fellow gloomers

[ashen socket]

wym

there is no gloom

[blissful delta]

thats how well you did compared to people your ilvl

[night relic]

What is that like 250k on gem sockets alone

[next ruin]

Any mountain thane sim?

[flat river]

Family friendly server

[flat river]

Fury burst nerf ;-;

[dusty aspen]

But got the silver leg enchants 🤢

Should poors be allowed to post in this chat? I think blizzard had the right idea

[unique frigate]

Has anyone killed zekvir as fury, is it hard?

[flat river]

Just let Brann kill him

Ez

[unique frigate]

Does it have tiers or is t fixed?

[tardy lark]

brann gets 2 shot lol

they just completely fucked the tuning

[tulip vapor]

is this pvp quest weapons? if yes how did u get conc when there is cap bellow quest request?

[flat river]

How come Brann's execute actually executes but ours doesn't

[unique frigate]

Would be quite epic to just execute raid bosses from 25%

[flat river]

Brann executes bosses at 5%

That would be cool for us

[forest berry]

i wish my brann could actually heal me

[peak lagoon]

its 2 heroic weapons

from first boss and from silken court

which meant i could upgrade the first one for free

🤓

[tulip vapor]

QQ gz

[tired brook]

im 8/8N and 3/8H, only loot i've gotten was 2 a one hander and a shield from last boss...

[unreal shell]

Time to go prot

[tired brook]

fr

if i didnt have a crafted 619 2h id consider

next week will bless me 🙏

[peak lagoon]

i still have all my heroic crests

[hybrid dagger]

you're trolling not having a culminating blasphemite

[peak lagoon]

wtf is a blasphemite

ohh that shit

[flat river]

First time i did raid in dragonflight in Vault of the Incarnates i didnt get anything from normal or heroic except a heroic BoE which i sold for 500k

Then nothing dropped for me for 3 weeks

[tired brook]

some dude in my heroic run earlier got a socketed leech ring boe

i could not believe my eyes

how much does that shit even go for

[peak lagoon]

socket is meaningless for boes atm

[flat river]

A lot

[peak lagoon]

if its ring or neck

[hybrid dagger]

to min/max you usually want 1 blasphemite and 1 of each color gem to max your blasphemite

[ashen socket]

Its tiny

we gucci still

[hybrid dagger]

quick ruby quick onyx quick sapp

[flat river]

I know but burst itself got a nerf

I liked bursting for 6 million

[ashen socket]

you still will qt

just need to be higher ilvl

[flat river]

Exactly

It would've been 9 mil with higher ilvl

[ashen socket]

Nah

[spare drum]

Just looked at the overall BiS list on wowhead and there is a crafted Offhand so I guess its safe to use the spark to craft that 2h sword?

[ashen socket]

We will hit 10 mil

and break the damage meter

dw

Blizz didnt want us hitting 11 mil

[tardy axle]

does anyone know anyone in US that can do R5 pvp chest?

[unique frigate]

Yeah soloed zekvir, thought brann is a moron "Dont stand in that!" And he proceeds to stand in that

[peak lagoon]

i love it when brann disengages and pulls 2 more packs

[arctic pivot]

any1 know if radiant power enchant stacks? lets say having 2 of them up?

[vast night]

How was the nerf cry discussion

seems like a pretty heavy hammer for us?

[upbeat pulsar]

Why do they gotta nerf the spin man. I love spinning

[vast night]

yeah, bladestorm goes to ST nerf as well, which is not that strong

also in like 1 min+ fights some other classess catch up the AOE dmg

so I also don't understand why so heavy nerfed

[naive swallow]

coz f.u.n there was

btw

stuck , any help?
https://gyazo.com/f7e8502ceca8304974ce56bbb63eac85

gate not opening

[flat river]

I didn't want fury to be S-Tier

I wanted it to be A-Tier

Because S-Tier always gets nerfed

[vast night]

do they touch

arcane mage as well?

[unique frigate]

To what tier that nerf drops us u think?

[vast night]

i only saw the fury war

and when does this become live ot it already is

[unique frigate]

Next reset

[vast night]

giga nerfed for mythic week, perfect

[flat river]

Time to parse fast in raids

[molten wing]

its ain't like the nerf does anything

fury still giga for what it does in the raid

[flat river]

It is

But

It will be close

[molten wing]

which is how it should be

[flat river]

Other classes will catch up

[flat river]

No fury needs to be stronk

Like my name

Needs to top always

[lean tulip]

Why they don't nerf slam instead

Like nerf 90% slam

[forest berry]

dropped this in my delve and i have shint trinkets actually, is this one decent ?

[lament hinge]

yes

[civic echo]

i just killed 4 heroic bosses i can craft 2 weapons with that?

[spare drum]

as some1 who do both raids and M+ im a bit stomped about wich embellishment to pick on a crafted wep, any thoughts?

[teal coral]

i can craft stuff using sparks with "lower" crests and recraft without needing more sparks later using "higher" crests?

[woven bison]

Correct

[teal coral]

thanks

[sacred fiber]

morning lads - question: do we lose enchants when we recraft wep?

or can I slam authority on my 606 and keep it for 619 -> 636

[rigid kestrel]

Get a map they said, you might get good loot they said, they fucking lied

[slow quest]

technically its still good, 610 🙂

[rigid kestrel]

running påactstone + shard at 600, = they are better

[agile ocean]

I mostly play prot and was wondering if there was a decent one hander build for fury for me to flex into until I can get some 2 handers to drop later. Are there any or are two handers just that much better

[pearl cradle]

i have that too scarabrood heroic is better lol

[rigid kestrel]

Its beyond absurdly shit

[covert blaze]

You just drop a point and get smf
Xan said probably deft experience in st or titanic rage in aoe

[zealous spindle]

enchants stick when you recraft

[tardy axle]

whats the quickest way to get valorstones

[narrow tide]

kinda confused on what to do on ST opening with bloodlust. I just pop avatar and recklessness then enrage and throw my spear down but then i have so much haste i just kinda spam my Rampage bottom and then switch from bloodbath to Rampage and click execute whenever it pops up. I dont think this is the best way since im just spamming rampage and reacting to the other procs anyone tips on what o do?

[tardy axle]

sounds like fury warrior

[knotty swift]

how much is the % nerf ?

[narrow tide]

problem is im not high on the dps charts

otherwise i wouldnt care :p

[eternal sundial]

read the guide

then practice on dummy

[eternal sundial]

#updates-midnight message

[clever path]

Bruh

[flat river]

Skill issue

[clever path]

[civic echo]

how does some1 craft 619 weapons without using spark

[broken kindle]

sim is better

[sand crest]

[forest berry]

hey guys i'm in the delve at hallowfall is there a difference between those 2 choices ?

[unique frigate]

This cant be right? numbers on that darkmoon deck ascendancy trinket is also similiar, is that why it says that 610 trinket is worse?

[fading bane]

its apparantly worse than a pvp medallion

[sand crest]

if that tooltip was actually what riadbots was taking into account, you'd be simming for 5M

not 900k

its just a tooltip bug

[unique frigate]

Ah okay

[sand crest]

280k of a secondary stat is just insane

[unique frigate]

Well, i get it to boost my ilv, my ilv is 600 but equipped is 596

[slate light]

you dont, you use spark

[summer crater]

Spelunker's waning candle ilvl 610 gives more than twice as much crit on raidbots compared to in-game

6193 on raidbots, 2824 in-game

[fading bane]

its just a tooltip bug

ignore it

[summer crater]

So the calc on raidbots is correct?

[clever path]

Sorry lads, can't for the life of me find the answer on google. For the 606 crafted sword do i need one of the enchanted crests or just 2x sparks?

[modern elm]

How much % is the nerf guys ?

[fading bane]

#updates-midnight

[modern elm]

O soz my bad deattu. Ty

[forest berry]

am i dumb or something is wrong here ? should i put the belt or nah ?

[surreal lynx]

hi, should i use trinkets along with recklessness or avatar?

[forest berry]

with avatar i think

[dusk urchin]

is this good or no

[maiden helm]

is warr getting a big nerf?

[eternal sundial]

No

Nerf was small

[maiden helm]

nice

[blissful delta]

1:30 on use trinkets yea

[dusk urchin]

like how much is 1.3k secondary stats?

and is the dam from orator worth not having any str ?

[oblique trail]

Where are you getting -10% from?

[fading bane]

BS nerf is 10%

and BS is all our AoE

simple

[oblique trail]

true didn't think of that

[forest berry]

from the discord

[oblique trail]

Ok but that's not -10%

[forest berry]

oh well i'm dumb

i'm sure i saw a - this morning

[oblique trail]

Read the picture, and it also says in the same post it's -2%~

[forest berry]

yeah my bad

[eager thorn]

pog

[dry bone]

trying to learn fury right now, but why is hekili showing overwhelming rage always?

[oblique trail]

Are you an orc

[naive swallow]

how are the warband quests gonna work

[ocean zephyr]

Can't see any pins. Are there decided upon numbers for the nerf on wednesday? How bad is it?

[naive swallow]

need a trinket to hand in the quest , but only obtainable for some other classes

[oblique trail]

#updates-midnight message

[ocean zephyr]

Cuz fury was overperforming quite significantly, right?

❤️

[dry bone]

OHHHH

i am lol

[oblique trail]

👍

[supple laurel]

Which pots are we using this season?

raiding wise

[eager thorn]

tempered potion, flask of alchemical chaos, algari healing potion

[slender badger]

I love doing almost 10m damage in large packs. But I have to agree that shit is broken 😆

[supple laurel]

thank you

[eager thorn]

np

[eager thorn]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/enchants-gems-pve-dps check this out, has everything you need to know about consumes/enchants

[errant vessel]

is the reason we use alchemical chaos because prepot will grant stats to all?

[dry bone]

also does hekili just not help with the whirlwind every 4 attacks? i never see it in the rotation

[supple laurel]

Amazing. thank you

[oblique trail]

I don't use Hekili, but I imagine it should if you have Improved WW and Meat Cleaver talented

Although I also don't know if Hekili checks if you're in AoE or not (if it even can)

[slender badger]

I think it does. But it's been a while since I've used it

[dry bone]

yeah i have both talented and was trying on the training dummy, but maybe it only works when you have actual mobs

was on the cleave dummies

[summer crater]

Maybe you set it to just be single-target

[tired valley]

yeah it works fine, but you need to be talented inside improved WW and meat cleaver, else it will give the option to slam in between 😄

[grim wigeon]

Yes

[forest berry]

did they remove orbs in the sky that used to give crest ???

[eager thorn]

nope

[safe juniper]

its in different zones everyday

[forest berry]

oh, do you know in each zone they are ?

[royal crater]

if you use delver's bounty, that worth till you finish bountiful delve, no matter if you failed?

[marble brook]

guys i saw the news are we doomed now?

[golden hare]

yeah I think I will quit on the spot actually

[night stone]

for m+ is authority of deeps still best or radiant power better?

[quick zodiac]

Worth using thane for m+ next week or is the slayer ST still to far ahead even after the nerfs/buffs

[golden hare]

slayer slays

[hollow shell]

Neither, time to swap classes and call it GG's :(

(Slayer on top, good fun)

[quick zodiac]

This^

Boomy time

[brittle phoenix]

Same

It's all over

Pack it up

[golden hare]

ggykw

[hollow shell]

Time to find a new MMO boys

I heard Genshin is good for spending money on?

[leaden carbon]

would you lot take the ring: Writhing Ringworm - over a 2set piece?

[hollow shell]

I can see more fury nerfs coming in very soon, the current one shows that our aoe performance is on blizzards radar and the changes they made are pretty minimal damage changes its not gonna really change a whole lot

[eager thorn]

ok but other classes gonna get dps boost from tier

fury not so much

dont gloom fury is chillin

[hollow shell]

I dont know what their tier sets look like so I have nothing to say in regards to that honestly lol

Kinda forgot about them so fair point

[grim wigeon]

its really tricky to nerf fury's performance in raid without gutting our ST

i think they'll realise it and be cautious

copium

[eternal sundial]

less so than previously

cuz of of/bs/roar

[coarse nest]

Fury is still going to be good we were doing burst aoe exceptionally well

Now it’s just a slight amount worse

Still ahead of the rest

[dense elbow]

And it is close to impossible to not a) remove our AoE burst all together, or b) make our m+ dps non existent
If fights get designed like this, they kinda make it real hard for themselves

One more slap on OF and I see a world where you only take it for burst AoE in raid. Making it yet again dead for m+. Heck, I am not 100% sure that didn't already happen

[eternal sundial]

nah OS is too shit

[urban ibex]

Do we at this point craft 2hander with Ascension? I did one pvp for rep and i see i can easily craft 610 weapon that can also be used for pve but not use my sparks...

[prime meadow]

How is solo delves today? has they been nerfed yet?

[eternal sundial]

the one i did was omega annoying but not overtuned

[meager gyro]

yo somebody give me easy solution I want it to show the actual favlue the embellishment gives in game on the sim

[eternal sundial]

no solution

tooltips are from wowhead

[storm solar]

Is Ashen Juggernaut viable for M+ ?

[eternal sundial]

ehh

[eager thorn]

viable prob

whether it'll be ran idk

[carmine hawk]

I went into T8, charge into mob, 3 melee hit and im dead

awesome

[meager gyro]

imagine taking away bloodcraze and cold steel and dumping them into 1pt swift strikes, and 1 pt for ashen jugg

I think swapping to 2 pts vicious cotempt would be up more overall in a key than that

[grim wigeon]

do we get 3 sparks next reset or just another splinter?

[gleaming siren]

Always one splinter per week except the first week

[golden hare]

i always expect the first week

[grim wigeon]

ah kk

[junior dock]

worth crafing weap this week ?

[gleaming siren]

except this :3

[golden hare]

:3c

[grim wigeon]

nah wait next week and decide then

[junior dock]

kk tx

[fair star]

when are the nerfs going live

reset?

[coarse moon]

If raiding and m+, is crafting cloak and bracers with sparks for the embellishments better rather than the 2h?

[keen nimbus]

Any exp fury fellow warrior with knowledge of simming that wants to take a look at what im getting. Cause im kinda lost

[lusty jungle]

Mods? Nerf is my triggerword

[slate escarp]

Can someone explain me our prio rotation?

[torpid dagger]

yes from what ive been told, sword is better raiding but hard to maintain m+, x2 threads better if both content
-edit - not sure whats better crit vs vers, seen both

[golden hare]

wowhead has a nice page dedicated to this in the fury guide

[dense elbow]

If RA, you want to CB, then BB if not at 110 rage, then exe if not at 110 rage (or AJ is going to fall off, or you at 2 stacks of SD), raging blow if not at 110 rage and enraged, rampage, raging blow, bloodthirst, ww/slam

Made simpler: CB, BB, Ramp, Exe, RB, BT, Ww/slam

[nocturne marsh]

Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but fury doesn't feel like it does that much more damage than protection

[eager relic]

[restive granite]

i need help

[nocturne marsh]

I'm not trolling or anything lol

[restive granite]

how do you guys play around Treachorous Transmitter while mid raid fight

its impossible to see the thing or the orb with a packed house

[dense elbow]

Prot pumps in m0, so makes sense to me

[nocturne marsh]

Just running around doing open world stuff, you have to either be trying really hard to or be asleep to die as prot. I switched to fury to see if killing was faster, and I didn't notice much of a difference

[dense elbow]

You should feel the burst diff, as Fury does a lot more of that than prot

If you AoE pull tho, it kinda sameish

[tawny geode]

Darkmoon Sigil: Ascension Darkmoon Sigil: Ascension we want this for 610 crafted embell ?

[nocturne marsh]

Maybe that's it

[eager relic]

#1237307555961634826 message

[gilded flicker]

Slayer just got nerfed (sep 17) right? MT still no better right?

[eager star]

is waiting 4 stacks for BB bad?
eg.
Ramp > CB > RB > ramp > CB > RB > Ramp > CB > RB > Ramp > CB > BB(4 stacks) > RB > ramp

OR should i not waste BB even at 1 stack?

[modest condor]

that's definitely bad

[eager relic]

How would you even have enough rage to ramp that much

[modest condor]

also 4 stacks of what, bloodcraze?

you'd be capped at 5 stacks for a while if you do it like that

[eager star]

bloodcraze, yes.

[eager star]

can happen during CDs

[eager star]

OH!! i know what you mean. that was a bad example

Okay, let me rephrase, should we not waste BB and use it even if we don't have bloodcraze stacks?

[modest condor]

yes

[heady wedge]

Is mt better than slayer after Nerf ? Or still the same ?

[modest condor]

having high bloodcraze stacks makes you prioritise bb more, but it's not like you dont press it if you dont have/have low stacks

[eager star]

got it.