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I got 5
oof
surely I will get more heroic pieces today

I got 2pc, hc wrist, transmitter, hc belt, nm chest, hc hast/mast ring
605 atm
No weapons, but our frost dk got double ansurek 1h's
our blood dk is 603 and got 1 piece from raid, guy had insane m0 + delve RNG
noob question, the bloodthrist casted by bladestorm hits another targets if you have whirlwind buff active?
no
Heyo,
anyone knows, if a spell is Flagged as "Aura Hidden" on wowhead, does that mean I am not able to track that spell as WA?
yikes
Im loot banned already
Surely
is there a point as fury, when i have too much mastery?
At what lvl should i start spend Keys in delves ?
no hard caps
follow robot
only on lv8 delves
Ty
Tuty
just be careful of webshot ^^
Can someone explain why Mark > Shard on our bis list? Shard looks like a direct upgrade from Mark with it's secondary effect?
Are there some sort of Hardcaps or Softcaps for Mastery? or is More Mastery = More Dmg?
yo guys did you craft your big weapon by now ?
wait for next week, tuning might be coming by then
good point yeah
There aren't.
You should sim your upgrades using raidbots to be sure what's better.
Thanks!
is it tho?
so far so good, fury feels good in raid, right?
How do you guys like the current iteration compared to past iterations
I went into dragonflight loving the direction, my favourite at the time. I'm thinking along the same lines now
Ra is cringe
Top 1 nerf candidate according to dk disc
nah ur cringe
New RA is much better than old RA
real
๐
And ra as an idea
I like that bloodbath does damage
Is cringe
Nah not really
You dont press it in an optimal world
?
Only cb
??
u good
Yes
with tier, execute feels good? i think its pretty lame atm.
That isn't gonna happen
It's literally in the APL
It is
The sims skip bb for ramp at points
Especially in opener
Execute is my one gripe with current fury
litterally crushblow > BB > rampage
real
If ur at 100 rage after cb you skip bb unless ur gna cap crit
If we were to self log review, what are some good things to look for? We typically want Bloodbath, Rampage, CB to be 1:1:1 right?

it's not GOOD
So if I have more rampage than CB Iโm wasting procs
Look at CD usage
Yeah, thatโs my first thing I found I think
and always use CB before BB
No
bloodcraze
Sir please
bro?
And if you have stacks
Iโve got 55 rampage 50CB
You bb>cb if itll cap crit
So Iโve wasted some for sure

dont speak
See the shit i hate about RA you dont even play right
u good
Pull up your logs big boy
I played arms
real
guy who yells uwu in cities why are you yapping
then why tf are u complaining
OK GO PLAY ARMS
How you doin @tardy lark
I'm not sure about the guide, do we craft the 2h weapon with embelishment this reset (raiding content)
wait till m+
and craft it mythic
if urt not sure
cause im holding out
cause im planning to do M+ alot more
so idk weapon or wrists
How do you feel about dying to watcher without splitting slimeboss
I am a warrior andy not a 1 spec Andy 
1 weapon andy
He's not a fury warrior he's a passive aggressive warrior
AAHHAHAHAH
Is fury hard to get into, and will i get carpel tunnel?
No and maybe
you will
anyone know if u can still get taeshalach and argus' scythe to drop
Yes
legitimaly you dont stop pressing buttons at any time xd
Play powerful enrage
You only get carpal if you are very old or have awful keybinds
im guessing every use the Use changes to a different weapon
Is it hard to mess up, like if i press a button instead of another is it a huge dps loss?
ooog
parry and avoidance is nice i guess but
You can cost urself damage
But it's not complex
the on use isnt really much dmg
10% crit on shields is fine but
not too many shields around
also having to cycle to that
takes a while
so
..
yo guys, whats the name of the item that adds sockets to rings and necks?
Something setting
hey guys, what about these hero talent? i play with slayer, because is strong aoe and singletargets too i player higmountain too, but I didn't feel strong or weak. but a bit booring.:D
Is there anything posted that tells us which fights in the raid to use the "raid" talents and which the "M+" ones? Or is it raid talents for it all and just use the aoe tools we have during cleave and add phases?
Yes good
you can look at what people are using for each boss on wcl
yes
i am wearing 2 (two) of my delve pieces
a ring and boots
alternatively just use ST raid on bosses with no aoe and the aoe raid one on bosses with adds
This trinket simms 6% more dmg than my Sacbrood trinket .. it's abit sus ๐ crit is our 5th stat prio
anyone know if there is a way to get an embelishment or something else that makes food buff persist on death like in DF
level cookin
Be earthen my friend
no, but there is a new way to get perma food through cooking
new puppy, internship and 3 split chars, so im swamped
how bout you
show doggy
3 split chars 
Brainrot
im a triple warrior man
bro aussies
are so cute
shes adorable mostly
went war/hunter/dk
should have went rogue instead of dk
but i like my hunterman
surv hunter is giga fun im told
surv is pretty good
same
new dark rangeer is gonna own
not on surv tho...
i just dont like Breath of sindragosa
What ilvl on the sacbrood
597
like 4fun splits in a decent mythic guild is pretty fun
this actual gearing of 3 chars with delves, m0s etc can suck a big wang
BoS giga fucks though
just miss me with that shit being best for keys
and you always have some GIGA demons at playing alts

it doesnt seem correctly, a friend of mine tested it
it sims with 6k crit allthough it only gives 2.7
we did alt runs of mythic towards the end of the season before to make sure everyone could play their alts
everyone could NOT play their alts
we had a giga good ranged player try fotm alting rogue in S3
it went so bad he actually got kicked


gonna sim it
Is it worth using Bladestorm after AVATAR+RECKLESS ?
the 2 m cd might be eh
or they should be use separately
2min feels awful..
I mean i always do it but is that the proper rota
ok it didnt sim beter
You absolutely want bladestorm to get the 20% Crit chance from Reck and 20% damage boost from Avatar.
isnt it like avatar+reck -> rampage -> TR -> Odyn -> BS
If they get desynched however feel free to send them separately
for aoe at least
No
You're losing dot uptime on OF if you do that
for ST
do we have to rampage
before bladestorm
after avatar and reckls?
i assume yes
for enrage
You want enraged yes
and is my ST guide outdated that i don't have OF?
https://prnt.sc/f0i7avOJHMGc Skarmorak Shard is better of Abyssal trap right?
will have to check again
Yes, so that BS procs your BB
LET'S GOOOO
How is larynx compared to other on use available trinkets? Something to farm for? Ofc as passive everyone will farm a high sac, but for raiding and m+ whats suggested one use thats good for both?
Mostly good here, built new PC recently and it owns
But you don't necessarily need a fresh enrage because unhinged makes BS cast Bloodthirst and with deft experience will extend your enrage so you can send your BS when you still have 2 seconds of enraged remaining
King
No it's correct, OF is strong, but it ate a couple nerfs so while it chunks in AOE, it's slightly below some T2 talents for sustained ST damage.
Our capsstones definitely need some tuning to redistribute the damage better
Sim it
So when are you back for 5 warrior runs
Sorry for the later response, but you want at least 2 gcds in-between Avatar and OF to avoid losing dot uptime. You can also lower your burst slightly but gain better sustained AOE by only using OF after your last stack of Whirlwind cleave is used to refresh it via OF instead of needing to cast Whirlwind.
Worth making charged claymore already and recraft later on ?
It's okay although both Skarmorak shard and the Grim Batol mastery Trinket are better.
Depends on a couple things
Is your character a crafter who spend a lot of acuity for recipes or specialization points?
Uhhhhh uhhmmm uuuuuuuhh
im maxxed out bs on the weap ๐
Next question
okay thanks ๐
When 5 warrior runs?


Have you been mewing since you left
And whatโs your opinion on the current state of zed
If you don't mind losing 30 acuity on a later recraft then the next thing to consider is that you're investing essentially 4 weeks worth of sparks for a single item, if you already have a decent ilvl weapon and have other armour slot pieces lagging behind then you may gain far more immediate player power by crafting 2 armour pieces instead.
Thank you
Hello chat
I got my second spark for my 2H but can't decide my embelishement ๐ฆ darkmoon is strong but in raid, for mythic it's harder to keep it worth... any general feedback ?
I don't have a guild so I may not be able to raid a lot :/
That's unfortunately not something we can truly advise you on as only you know how much time you'll invest in raid vs m+ but if you don't plan on raiding much I personally believe that Duskthread will be better for you
I have not because my jawline is already immaculate
Cringe tbh S13 was way more fun when you could stack armor pen items and you had Hydra to make you relevant the whole game
You can change embellishments with recraft. So pick whatever
Anyone have the treacherous transmitter trinket and any recommended WAs or tips with it? I used it last night and hate it ngl
What level of raiding do you usually do? Lfr, normal or Heroic?
Hello guys , im deciding for a main and saw somewhere a comment that fury warrior will drop off significantly with damage when other classes get their 4cp as we do not scale that much better with out set, is that true ?
Guys i just got a Delver bounty map, however, im done with ally my delfs for the day.. Can i go and do a random 8 to get it, or there more benefit waitingm for an actual bountifull delf for doing those ?
Depends of the timing, early in the extension i never do heroic
Fortunately warrior has 2 specs you can main
Recraft requires new sparks ? both my weapon are 580 and wont drop better... I'm getting desesperate but the guides recommend not to use sparks before hc
Arms scale better than fury?
I think arms will scale better
Arms tier set is a bit better
But play the one you find fun
You can switch specs by pressing n
Very easy
arms just feels hella slow at the moment
anyone with knowledge abnout the treasure maps ?
Arms is better fury just has another raid of padding to pump it up
The pad in this raid is disgusting
Every boss is an M+ pack with prio mob
bruh, waxface as fury is impossible
surely we just play what is fun
No new soarks
they drop from bountiful delves and the random zekvir encounter, they reward based on the tier they drop in, a tier 8 map gives you a hero 1/6 (610) item, they are probably capped to how many per week (i think at 3)
what anime should i watch
Vinland
only season 1
not sure on the drop rate, I did 4 bountiful yday with 2 friends, I got 1, my gf got 2 and our friend got 0
Dragon ball z
hmmm
Yes you can
my favorite is from the 90s...
have watched DBZ and Super
Karekano is my favorite romance anime
checking karekano
I don't watch anything romance... but karekano was good
it has the same art style as School Days which im still scarred from
monka
My Little Sister Can Not Be This Cute
"I died while doing my software engineer job and reincarnated as a secretly hidden op stepbrother wanting to clean up the world with my previous life knowledge while taking care of my stepsis"
susge
๐
Know, it was directed by Anno Hideaki... who created evangellion.. so it's god a good mindfuck built into it too
bro have you watched the cyberpunk one
just let me see robots fighting
im not an anime guy but that was so good man
yeah its pretty good
it was good but i hate it
oh :(
not a big anime guy here either but I do appreciate quality ones
what are you feelin style wise
cursed mastery isnt better than the radiant one? ๐
befoer i go to bed because theres some good ones
style wise wdym
@tardy lark watch karekano first episode and see if you want to keep up.
as tacky as it gets
bro 
i will cause im running out of current airing stuff
if u cant appreciate a good anime you need to grow up
yo lads! is there any difference if i take charged crusher or everforged waraxe as my omen item?
anyone know why i might be pressing raging blow too much?
already watched that - was good
you should be pressing crushing blow too much
is it really? i hate the blonde guy or whatever i just can't...
Sorry brother im here to keep informed about the latest fury warrior informations 
Kaguya-sama love is war, you've prob seen that, and My senpai is annoying are more rom-coms
Any tips for delves? I got t7 waterworks done but I barely survived last boss
the supposed age gap is what i find kinda uhh
Idk if I handle t8
group up, way easier.
smells like bullshit
group up 5 man, makes it giga easy
prot them
there's an age gap?
actually havent watched the movie or the latest season, but its so long ago i should be rewatching it
Thanks guys Iโll look for some groups
is it worth to watch which omen crafted weapon i take? or is there no difference between sword axe and mace?
think the girl is like... 18 and the guy is late uni so 24/5 ish i think
at least that was the vibe i got
no diff really
19 and 22 according to wikipedia
much better
ty
ok its good anime
Your lie in april is another good one, but its older
classic
has been on my list for a while but BAnezi says its sad ๐ฆ
it is
Which bosses are lfr this week
Mark of execution spreads via ww or is it just prim target?
bro can i just get horimiya 2
pieces doesnt count
yeah...
might as well just end it all here 
was fury sim updated recently?
was simming last night at around 780k and now im simming 830k
Ye
it's the steroids they came into the bloodflow
also i was wrong im simming 870k now
ramping
nexxt message is 910k
oh last one is a personal favorite, you might like it you might not and it's not exectily romance, but Youkusou no Ballroom (english Welcome to the ballroom) is really one of my hidden favorites
the worst way i can describe it, is that its half romance/ half sporta anime about balle
Pretty sure the sims didn't use the active at all until today for this
With a WA it's not that bad to use
yeah but i swear if you spam buttons (like i do) you can pop it and instantly remove it
looks good
ill check it
i guess you can use a cast reset macro?
thanks bro
gn king
gn
Best way to gear up? Delves 8 and ignore m0?
[Quickwick Candlestick] trinket any good for Fury?
or [Ara-Kara Sacbrood] one better at same ilvl?
Why both? Delves 8 drop a higher than m0 or am i wrong
This is bis, the other is meh. 2min cd
thx
you can only do 4 delves a day, and only as long as you have keys for the chest
Got 17keys, enought to gear before next week and start with higher m+ i hope
if you have limited time, your 4 daily delves are higher priority than m0
4 bountiful delves*
Yeah thats what I want to know
yeah if you dont have much time and have to pick do delves
but afterwards, doing m0 is still good to do
Already missed the delves yesterday ๐ฆ
some nice trinkets and other gear to get on vet track and upgrade to 606 (or w/e)
But pushed pvp so Already got 2set piece and crafted weapon
Are there 8 Dungeons or 12 in this session?
8
No, m+ trinkets and gear are better but right now delves have better ilvl
There are but not BIS
Your bis trinkets are from m+ and raid
But ilvl win
Uโll have plenty crests if you do ur delves
yeah despite the fact both the 603 trinkets i got from delves were a huge dps loss over my 593 ones, it let me do this
Gratz
I have so many spare carved
I will have plenty too after i craft my 610 pieces
Is there an addon with auto accept role check in Dungeon tools that work?
weakaura yes
Ask someone who watches anime
what missive should i use on my 2h wep
Ive tryd 4 and no one works. do you have one, that work?
What do u guys think about Treacherous Transmitter trinket? Did u test it?
susge
Go on
always trust simcraft yeah ?
are sims not working for concoction and ascedancy serum?, raidbot says its a 15k dps diff
feels like its a bit too much
are you running "latest"?
anyone else having the same problem when using Rampage or Bloodthirst the game just lags?
every rampage and bloodthirst cast
which weapon should i first craft with my 2 sparks?
actually yapping so much jeeesus

Should you rage cap as fury in ST or not? Maxroll's guide says to spam raging blows even if capped as long as you're enraged. While wowhead's says to avoid capping any rage at all.
Thank you
it specifically says to use rampage at 115+ rage or when recklessness is active before using raging blow so that you dont cap rage with it
you do cap rage with crushing blow/bloodbath or execute with 3 marks or to refresh aj
Check this out https://eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/reckless-abandon-causing-stutter-need-testers/532893
First of all, Iโve reported this as a bug already. Iโm aware this isnโt the place to report bugs. I need help though as itโs driving me crazy and Iโd like to see if more Warriors have the same issue (there is one that documented the same thing) Reckless Abandon Causes FPS Stutter when using Abilities it effects (Rampage, Bloodbath and Crushing ...
hey guys was looking at the wowhead builds we dont take onslaught for ST raid?
you do not
when would we use bladestorm in our rotation? as a filler?
OMG HIIIII HOW ARE YOU??!
bs isnt filler its big damager
pog
wowhead guide has the specifics
the secret to parsing this season is to know when to use SD more than you should so you can have BS back up faster for add phases
Omg erga ๐ฅบ
I'm good (miserable gacha addict)
How is ergaw doing
yo as fury in delves do we loot spec as arms to avoid 1h?
Did something change or is something bugged? Hurricane either is not bloodthirsting , or the bloodthirst is not cleaving. IT's nto consuming WW stacks for me
you always loot spec arms
that was changed before tww launch
yes
ty
so do I suck or not? Warcraftlogs says I suck!
skill issue
you suck the most out of all the people in that bracket. Coincidentally you are also the best
ez w
aight bois imma need help on this one does anyone have a clean fury wa?
aside from lux's one
victory!
Iโve put many hours into WoW but 90% of that time has been with one of the healing classes.
Iโm getting bored with them and want to try leveling a Fury Warrior.
What is the go to site to learn about rotations? Not that I need it while leveling but want to get prepared for end game content
doesnt matter which weapon
yeah you suck
what's radiant echo for?
Do 5 min event with them for some key fragments
I have like ... 9 of them
Yeah you get 1 per bountiful delve
where do i spend these
Theres markers on the map for the events
Opressive Orators trinket any good my guys
its not bad
Not tried it out still rocking the sacbrood and skaem shard
Like... where?
Has anyone been picking up wrecking throw for council and queen? If so curious what is getting dropped in the general tree for it
Drop movespeed or pain and gain
Should be 2 in the ringing deeps, unless they expired recently
don't bother - it's not really worth the talent point at this point
Im not at my pc to check
Why does it feel like the wowhead guide is consistently out of date?
because things constantly change
but what specifically do you feel is out of date atm?
Ansurek
Lul
I hope you know I'm trying really hard not to make fun of you right now
I want cutting edge guides! How dare you not have it instant update! /s
Sorry, cutting edge isn't available till next week
Gotta give it atleast a week it's not reasonable to expect within 2 days of release
I mean TBF what the guide does say is still correct - use multitarget talents
having to listen to people complain about guides you spent countless hours working on, only to find out their complaint is meaningless lul-bait?
not great (playing the game)!!
you made me feel so bad about myself I went and bought a bear
You deserve that bear
nice bear
Iโm just salty I was third best warrior last night bc Iโm 15 Ilvl behind bc I didnโt have time to do delves this week
missing the part where that's our problem
TBF I always get the same loot out of delves
over and over again
I've gotten like 5 cloaks so far
What feels bad? I died to a boss in a bountiful delve earlier and Brann fell through the world and kept me in combat with said boss and it wouldn't let me respawn or unstuck. Waited 3 hours on a ticket just to get it fixed and play my warrior. AAA gaming experience I pay to play.
yeah 3 cloaks today for me
yo guys on ulgrax should i save cds on adds ?
I donโt understand why blizzard would give th option for a worse warbound item in m0
fury doesnt need nerfs but this bronzebeard guy though
Like Iโm here for upgrades
ive gotten 3 cloaks, 3 chests, and 2 necks
should have talented better ๐
๐
There's a hero tree besides Slayer?
Ulgrax phases at ~1:40 into the fight, so it lines up pretty naturally anyway
they should align pretty well
TBF it's my fault. I sneezed and walked into a void puddle that one shot me at 600 ilvl
Thane actually better for Delves imo
archi is too fast
yo thanks thanks i kinda want to get better so im overthinking alot lol
where can i look at timelines of bosses like this information that you guys gave me thanks
For queen I started delaying for the 2 roots in p1
the best way to learn cooldowns on bosses is to do normal
there are some general timing tips in the #dps-faq linked guides (look for raid tips pages)
Better in what way?
it's not super fleshed out atm, but it'll give you a rough idea
yo thanks
more upfront power from TBlast, not dependent on de/buffs to maximize damage, stronger defensively, and pulling big packs for bladestorm in higher (solo) delves is hard to survive
whats stats are we aiming on the 610 pvp jewelry, simc is a bit iffy
if you're running with a group, sure you can do practically whatever, but if you're soloing, delves are basically a series of small pulls, rather than one big burst pull
Seems legit. I'll have to try it, thanks. Currently stuck at T6 til I upgrade my gear and git gud.
which works really well for the sustained power of TBlast over Bladestorm
Any mix of haste/mast will be fine
What's the reasoning behind wanting Gloves as Tier but straight after it saying "Gloves are ideal off-piece"? So we just dont stack giga Haste Mastery and have it a bit more spread out?
But whatever simc tells you will be the best without having to guess
Put a 5 man together and do the underwater one in AK it's super fast
Just do solo pulls every minute and a half. Takes time but it's easyyyyy
what weapon enchant do we use for m+ ?
tbh offpiece doesn't really matter that much since it's gonna flip around with your stats
I actually do have some small changes for the bis, but bis only matters if you have all the items at the same ilevel... which nobody does
so it's kind of an academic exercise more so than a practical one
Makes sense yeah
bro archimtiros thanks man the icy veins guide answers all my cooldown questions
I got some talent build updates that need to go into IV
Am I cooked for wanting to turning hero track shoulders into my first tier piece
dont use your catalyst charge until you can make 4p
its time to join the darkness
honestly with how weak Fury's tier is, it's still not really priority
My deepest condolences babe..
I hope you survive
Weird question. I'm rusty since I haven't played since DF s3 and forgot some of the resources I used. Is there a popular WA package for warriors most people use and does anyone know the name of the site that would show fight timings and CD usage taken straight from logs that you could import into alerts to try and copy them?
TY! Yeah that was it.
it hasnt updated though last time i checked
yo this site helps me too thanks
Luxthos is pretty popular
yeah lorrgs hasnt updated heroic parses
I'm in no rush. It's just for future mythic prog purposes.
TY
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/9VmJqxNm8sdjRRkguYLWXi
Any bois know why Queen Trinket is simming higher than Transmitter? Im confused about the bis list now
oh so you create your own timings here thats nice
queen trinket does big dmg from what i remember
When blade storm resets before Ava and reck and spear do you just send it
dont take the bis list as a bis list, stat weights can change and make one item better than another, mandate is still a really good trinket that you should try to get
i usually watch out for cd's
if i have to wait only 5s
i wait
if not, send it
but in the best gear possible, transmitter and arakara trinket simmed the best, you are not in the best gear possible
if it's a couple of seconds you can hold it yeah
depends on fight too, if u are waiting some adds
but you dont wanna hold so long that you get another sudden death proc and waste cdr
Yeah prob is about Guild. Because of the BiS Item Button of RCLootcouncil ^^ They want us to only press BIS if its bis from our List, so im confused if I should press Bis for Transmitter or Mandate
i would skip normal mandate personally, then roll for heroic mandate if a transmitter didnt drop
Or fight length if holding it causes you to miss a use later down the line
it does a lot of direct ST damage and its 22 ilvls ahead of you
whereas transmitter buffs your damage which is 22 ilvls behind
Ah okay yeah Iโm
Having a hard time dpsing in spear as well the crit damage from it doesnโt feel any better then roar so I guess Iโm not pressing buttons fast enough
Doesn't really work like that when differing ilvls are involved, but Transmitter is better overall since Mandate is ST only - that said, you have to actually be comfortable with the Transmitter minigame, which is a PITA
I would rather just run some combo of Mandate(ST)/Mark/Sacbrood tbh
And go for the the transmitter/try it out if no one else wants it?
if you want it, sure
I think its a junk trinket tbh
I'm not gonna run around chasing orbs in the middle of my burst
transmitter is gonna get you killed/memed by your guild a lot ngl
I mean i read the wowhead article about the minigame for the transmitter and im kinda like turned off.
just get a more useful / easy to use trinket
which is exactly why the gear guide says it's not a very practical option
Im feeling therefore way more the mandate
but it is best overall... if you can stomach it
ultimately you gotta make the decision that's right for you
So patchwerk bis
Thats true, but i just wanted a little talk about the situation of the 2 trinkets here. Helped a lot, much love to you guys โค๏ธ
yo guys i need adive so im not using pots cause we just doing normals what flask should i get the mastery one or the chaos one?
I got that trinket and it works fine - the annoying one is standing on the pad for 2s - the other two are easy to do
Only complaint with it
You can sim it, but if you're not using pots then flasks probably don't matter much either 
P sure alch chaos is way ahead
Hello, i really want to search about prio stats on Fury warrior, and didnt search that here, can anyone tells me? and want to ask about Duskthread embelishments what kind of stat you want on that for M+, Thanks 
Anyone managed to solo waxface in t8 delve? I got roflstomped hard ๐ฆ had to 2 man and his hp stayed the same ...
I solod it as prot
Did it as fury, defensive stance and impending victory do work. Also if you stand in the poison you dont take damage from burn away
is there much dps difference between culling cyclone and brutal finish?
Culling Cyclone splits dmg so it is only good for single target
While Brutal finish is much better for multitarget
much is an overstatement
I dont think that ended up mattering much
theres something funny about a talent that increases BS damage being better in ST
yeah that does seem weird but i'll do whatever does most damage ๐
jojo. i whatched in the gearing quide from wowhead and have seen that the crafted weappon ist bis for fury offhand and is second bis for arms. is it worth to build then? if yes and i want to switch between fury and arms which stats would be the best then?
i mean its split damage
so it always does the same amount
H oh w many catalyst chargers do we get per week
every 2 weeks 1
I got transmitter last night and i found a WA for it that made it very easy to use
At risk of asking a question that's already been asked 10 billion times, is there an order in which we should be using our Catalyst charges? And is it better to just hold onto them until we start aquiring gear that's higher in ilvl?
depends what content you do and at which level
I'm personally not using mine until I can guarantee 4p with it
hold it till you have done atleast all your raidstuff this week. if you manages to get 4set you COULD go but better wait till you got decent gear to cata
I will be saving mine to use as my 4th piece, and only use it on a hero+ piece
Perfect - thank you all, this makes a ton of sense.
you can try to 1600 pvp or clear HC raid this week and you get the hero token too. i always wait till i have this token
Hey, do we sim with Dungeon Slice for dungeons or something else?
Is the shadow dagger trinket from Delves any good?
guess thats called dungeon slice is for dungeons ๐ ๐
dslice is not really optimized for current expansion as far as i know
wait no, fury might be
Ilvl needed for T8 delve? im 581 rn but says 600 ๐ฆ
You can do it as T8
But it'll be rough
Just gotta do it slow and don't do crazy big pulls if you're soloing it
Easier as a group, wasnโt too bad as prot to solo just be aware some shit will murder you
ready for raid...
Go smash and post pink logs here
I'm all show no go warrior
Rip
those un enchanted are adventerer grades...
and I'm poor
kinda waiting for bis veteran or higher.
hmmm
if you dont have done the side quests then do this
When do they typically post tuning after raid launches?
already have :(
otherwise stonevault feels the fastes for mee
sunday monday maybe
arakara is fast too also dawnbreaker
I got 606 without raiding lol
but randoms kill the speed in this dungeons
Tyty
I tanked my t8 delves at 583
Zero issues at all
Yesterday someone mentioned there was a timing window someone made for the raid? IE, when to use our CDs?
Maxroll guide has one
I made a spreadsheet last tier, but havent had time this time around
how long to wait to be safe to craft a 2h weapon with embelishmend?
id wait for m+ to start
Got this from a delve last night.
Am I correct in assuming it's poop.
there are so many weird trinks in this season
Keep getting trinkets instead of stuff i need ๐ฆ
I thought I was misreading it and used it on a target dummy. Nope, just 250k on use every minute

I got a bad dedicated for trinks... too many
Slowly but surely
blizzard releasing content for solo players then making it disgustingly unfun for solo players
makes sense tbh
I got a haste crit axe from a coffer so I can't complain too much
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Worst thing is i brought a healer with me and mob hp and dmg stayed the same
If you go prot Brann hard carries your damage. Fucking guy was making me do 1mil
You don't die. It's still quick
never played prot and not learning a spec for 40 mins of daily content
Press thunderclap and shield slam.
Enemies don't do enough to really hurt you
Most solo players aren't pushing the highest difficulties of shit and aren't expecting the best rewards literally the first day content is available
t8 delve isnt the highest difficulty of shit lmao
It's the highest level of reward
ye and even then its not really great
haha
And it's been out for 3 days
im prob just gonna stop delves after today tbh, effort to farm the key fragments and 4% chance for a hero tier item is just hard cope
That trinket is the puzzle box of this season
was happy
Just do 4 Bountiful daily for now and forget about the map
Yea delves are only hard relevant this week anyway. Next you just slam keys unless you're gearing an alt or something
even the bountiful delves barely seem worth tbh
I do the 4 bountiful and then I pvp
M0s aren't worth
I've been testing dps between single target vs m+ builds (from icy veins following rotation to a T) and I am still doing waaaay more dps in single target using my m+ build. Is anyone else seeing this too? I don't think I'm doing anything wrong but thought I'd pose the question
I'm not sure how high M+ I can push first week.
I wil be happy to finish +7
+7 gonna be hard
yea I felt that too
I just want to get Broodkeeper down tonight.. Then I think my heroic GV is full
Most I've done so far the healer was just staring at the floor 80% of the time
Some people already struggle with M0 lol
Bro healers are mentally ill
They are physically incapable of living
Anyone if Cultivated Poisons from last boss of Ara-Kara can be spell reflected?
Now you got farm it again in m+. The never ending cycle lol
Positive take. ๐ช๐ฝ
Got it on my first m0 in ara
I haven't even had time to do m0s yet
Cashed in on luck
raided both nights and only had time to get the delves done
How many people join Ara Kara kill first boss and bounce
I'm supposed to do my first raid ... saturday
Honestly I felt this way In raid my multi target build seemed to perform better on st. Could be just us being used to using it more the past few weeks
semi pug normal run
Hmmm, question
I'm thinking of using Duskthread lining on my bracers
Does having 2 of it stack?
Like, bracers + cloak
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yes
Our multi target build is also really easy to play compared to having to ground target things mid combat
Itโs all just slam buttons and it does the work for you
so... for multi target boss (Raid).. u bring TR and odyn?
That's what I thought too. I'm doing a huge amount more dps in my multi target build on ST fights lol
basically yes
MT build is about 5% behind pure ST, which is a very small margin
otherwise spear, right?
Ty for the answer (in case it was for me ๐ )
it was
spear + onslaught for pure ST
Yeah honestly I think the ease of use of roar compared to spear makes it good cause you just hit it and forget it
Plus we are still in low gear stage
omg i was just about to type the same thing, just tabbed out from the training dummies
yo, are we still holding back our sparks or doe we craft the weapon now?
do u have enough crests?
yes
I'm spending all them crests for upgrading gears
I'm banking on the first raid boss
yo fellas, is it possible to make a macro that swaps between whirlwind and thunderclap (if thunderclap is learned) so I don't have to reshuffle them every time I swap MT and slayer?
#showtooltip
/cast [known:12950]Whirlwind; Slam
#showtooltip
/cast [known:Thunderclap] Thunderclap; [] Whirlwind
should work i think
Is thane relevant for fury? I thought everyone was team slayer
Does anyone get massive FPS drops during certain bosses of the raid? I got it from Rashanan and Ovinax mainly, it becomes a slideshow
it feels like i have to waste my time doign the lower delves just to unlock tier 8. i dont like that
Yea big drops
Yes itโs an issue for most people
Also the ms in raid instances is crazy high
Like mines 4 times higher than my usual
Does anyone know if Blizzard have addressed it?
Not that Iโve seen
Pretty sure blizzard is aware
Some prominent streamers have been complainng about it for a while
The pools in the ground were hard to dodge
Considering it's an issue that's existed for more than a decade, it should have been optimized a long ass time ago
It's nuts when u play rets... because you are on your own bright ass pool 24/7
can't see shit
The first 3-5s of at least one fight per raid is a slideshow
We got a spy
I think its mechanic triggers have to be immediate right so you can react, but lots of shit going on at once will drop the frames
Idk
time to upgrade pc 
It's not a PC thing
I still dont remember this being that prevalent, major case was Denathrius when you stacked the adds on the whole group at the beginning, but then it stabilized
i came so close to slamming the craft on a weapon
but then banezi told me nah, ur stupid
hold until next week, make the 610 pvp weapon ez slam
It's especially bad on silken for me
you fly through lower delves though
it's pretty mindless
same
the first like ~10s of the fight is literally a slideshow
Next week just slam a max-rank weapon by getting your keys done ๐คฏ
Have you checked your wow graphics havent reset to max, sometimes happens to me with driver updates
the web frontals from the caster on silken actually just bricks my fps its so bad
The pvp wep was easy to make for me
The idea of crafting the weapon next week is based around getting it at 636 with the M+ 5-10 thingy/component?
You guys having more succes with solo devles with thane instead of slayer?
And now that i have the recipe im making it for others
I crafted my 606 and have a 597
I'll upgrade it next week to max level and lock that in for the season
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You can get 606 from M0 though
-+
Sure, but I didn't have time to do m0
I haven't even had enough time to do all 4 bountiful delves each day
which crafting reagent do you need for the 610 weapon the blue ones ?
I have an hour to an hour and a half before raid to get shit done
Then I raid til I go to bed
I feel u,today managed 4 delves,yday 1 and done full normal
I have no life
wow 24/7
Me neither but gotta work still ๐ฆ
quit your job, buy one of those esports shirt and gaming chair and youll get paid to play wow instead
QQ: What is the goal with opportunist? If it procs and i have any amount of rage to rampage should i just rampage so my crushing blow does big dam?
or is it saying that if it procs i should press raging blow no matter the rage?
sometimes the answer comes from reading what Opportunist does. have you read it?
the first one
so generally you use Raging Blow to fill out the rotation after you've used Crushing Blow and Bloodbath, building up and pooling rage before your next Rampage
- if Opportunist procs (which buffs RB and CB alike), you can skip using Raging Blow and press Rampage sooner, so that the damage buff can go into the much stronger CB instead
should note that this is an extremely minor optimization and honestly not even really worth making a dedicated buff tracker to pay attention to
is waxface bugged? I've seen ppl say stand in the poison pool for his burn away but it disappears after 1 tick and then you proceed to lose 80% hp
Thank god its not worth tracking
whats the point, ppl playing "Powerful Enrage" or "Frenzied Enrage"?
its seriously like a 2k damage increase (<0.1%)
alright thanks. legit read it and felt like its gonna feel awful to track so that kinda confrims its super min max
haste levels.
if you arent storm bolting bosses from out of melee range youre missing out
its about 2x better than Storm Bolt in ST ๐
i am at 18%
heroic throw damage is bis
the trick isn't storm bolting from range, it's using storm bolt during bladestorm (Slayer can do that now), and it seriously isn't worth the talent point
thats why we have shockwave right?
well the frenzied enrage makes enrage give you haste. so the difference is based on haste values. Powerful Enrage increases some damage. PE is better for AOE whereas FE seems better for ST
ty
though i do wish we could shockwave while bladestorming. only b/c if it was based on character facing it would mean youd just randomly throw out a shockwave in any direction
blizz do it for the LORE
make shockwave stun allies too
would be funny
spinning and just stunning ur tank who is trying to kite the pack
pvp trinket time 
is there a good valorstone farm
Blizz better not touch fury - they already nerfed my ele sham
idk how efficient it is but if u do the siesberg mount farm doing solo follower ara-kara dungeons u will easily get cap valor before the grinds over
so stones and mount in the end but yea takes like a full day
is that the big bug mount that looks like the raid mount
Yup
i mean its no different then running dungeons without the farm in mind, but i guess its something else while farming stones
The nerfs wonโt hit for like a month or so but supposedly itโs pretty bad on the ptr
shockwave is just required to (efficiently) path to reinforce plates
Any trouble getting into mythics?
m0s?
what you all playing in m+, slayer or mt?
i love MT but im doing more in both aoe and ST as slayer
Havent had troubles getting in m0 as arms. Yes i get some declines but really depends on ilvls. Fury should be easier.
I had trouble finding group invites for m0 theyโve only been out a day or two and already req 600+
Gatekeepy ass game
anyone know where to find the fury APL w/ the raw simc format?
edit: found it, for anyone interested https://github.com/simulationcraft/simc/blob/thewarwithin/ActionPriorityLists/warrior_fury.simc
I like thane gameplay more than slayer
craft wep with sparks or HODL?
which larias in here is the real larias that makes the gearing guide
should update the guide with the 610 pvp craft
its pretty effortless
Thunderclap go brrrrr
thunderclap hits like a wet napkin tho
But the effects are dope
Sure but it's fun to press
It has more fun interactions overall
Free bt, extra rage on thuiderstrike, thuinderclap etc etc
Better 'vibes'
They just need to fix some stuff
Like avatar should be able to proc inside an avatar window, bt should be added to thunderstrike
Etc etc
And then if it's not enough to close the gap just buff it a bit more
Thane does good consistent damage in dungeons.
Not as much as slayer but it's definitely 'playable'
You can't make BT such a valuable button but then not add it to the most important mechanic of the whole hero talent
Idk if choosing to do less damage in a group environment is healthy for a game
As long as you're good enough no one cares, it's only when it becomes a problem that people do care
Although, the st discrepancy between thane and slayer is too much to ignore
Yea. I feel like Thane is supposed to be the AOE option and slayer is single, but it's not balanced that way.
feelycraft lol
I had posted in the log review channel, any active pumpers be willing to give me some feedback?
is someone able to help me with the opener and prio? im using the standard raid build that everyone is top on the heroic logs with but im new to fury so kinda confused with the prio of avatar: so we recklessness + charge into rampage -> then we thunder roar into odyns fury into bladestorm into avatar after bladestorm? then its just rampage if not enraged > crushing blow + bloodthirst with crushing blow have prio -> reg raging blow >execute > rampage (already raged) > reg bloodthirst and then finally WW if nothing else? if someone could tell me if this is accurate or what im missing i would greatly appreciate it
its also in the html output of any sim you run on raidbots
Recklessness->charge -> rampage-> avatar+trinket+spear/roar ->bladestorm-> odyns once the odyns dot is wearing off from the avatar.
If you're playing spear then there isn't any odyns. Just normal prio after the bladestorm
Does rotation/priority change much with tier? Just got 2pc and was wondering if BB or CB took prio.
Casts 3 bloodthirsts
Slayer interactions
4 skills for 1
And bt yea
right ty



