Boss has too much health, has two fail state mechanics even on normal and the mythic mechanics look to be aids
#fury
clever path
nova smelt
Idk we ran it with 30 people and it died pretty fast
clever path
Every other boss was easy in comparison which isn’t good. Similar to tindral honestly
It’s gonna be a problem
nova smelt
Yeah I agree with that
It’ll be a heroic and mythic problem it’ll get tuned more
Did you watch the first iteration of it ? Lmao this is mild
clever path
That’s what I’m saying it’s gonna be a problem down the line
nova smelt
We cleared normal then 4 bosses hc before raid time was up we only raid 3h though
clever path
We had a few dead weight players to fill out the 30 for more loot so we cleared normal and took and early night
Gonna do heroic tomorrow
nova smelt
Raid seems ranged friendly
exotic glacier
Raid seems ranged friendly
clever path
Every fight is ranged friendly
nova smelt
Had some downtime where I felt like I was griefing hard if I kept dpsing
clever path
Jokes aside final boss sucks for ranged
nova smelt
Yeah most def
nova smelt
That’s a cool mechanic ngl
clever path
Had a warlock friend complain to me about it
nova smelt
Jumping poison waves lol
clever path
I agree I loved the final boss
clever path
Silken just feels like a sore spot on an otherwise great raid
I do hope they tune it
The insta kill mechanics need more leeway
nova smelt
Yeah I have an insane rig and was getting 70 fps swings
Actually pretty bad optimization
clever path
It’s not about how good it was for fury
exotic glacier
is it worth using The Catalyst yet?
pearl sequoia
What’s causing the fps drop on silken?
clever path
As a fight it’s really annoying to have two really fast easy to miss insta gibs
I mean the whole raid has frame drops
Like the final boss made my pc chug hard right at the start
But everyone in my raid was having that issue
cedar depot
fps drop on silken was mostly the intermission
vivid lagoon
Yeah I think I might just go arms because my luck is just fucked
I just did 4 more dg and more arms items
Even when o set to fury
exotic glacier
Yeah I think I might just go arms because my luck is just fucked
i mean... how bad could it be. it's not like ONLY crit, right?
clever path
I got lucky and got 3 normal items, weapon off first boss, tier shoulders and the poison trinket
exotic glacier
ilvl is better than most.
simple sun
Tasty speed
exotic glacier
im not your biggest fan
flat river
very phat
vivid lagoon
At least the tier set from arms looks better than fury lol
flat river
so wait?
broken kindle
Fury Tier is boring
Nottingham else
cedar depot
is it even going to change the rotation?
pearl sequoia
It’s just dam buff no
cedar depot
could be more creative i guess, fine for me atleast
unique frigate
Cant you just not use the map for delves before u reach 8's?
south kayak
What are you talking about?
chilly sapphire
how you even get the maps, not seen a single one.
cedar depot
idk if you can but i wouldnt, friend got a hero piece from map
i saw one drop from delve
gilded pawn
What are you talking about?
oh thats just a leftover message i accidentally pressed enter on
chilly sapphire
done like 7 tier 8's now. Guess low drop chance
cedar depot
it is, i was running with 4 people, ran from 3-8, then 4 8's, 1 map
south kayak
Should I get to level 8 delve on my alt or does that not matter?
cedar depot
all the nerds in my guild said do 4-7 on alts but idk why
sick jungle
guys I am stupid, when crafting the charged claymore what base ilvl is it
south kayak
all the nerds in my guild said do 4-7 on alts but idk why
I assume because maps can drop before 8?
fading path
guys I am stupid, when crafting the charged claymore what base ilvl is it
it will say in the BS interface if you mouseover the pic
chilly sapphire
I assume because maps can drop before 8?
So not tied to tier you obtain it on // warbound?
sick jungle
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/xj2ezSUkb1MmBvMCHGNgvw
so your wep at ilvl 606, thats crafted without a crest right?
safe juniper
in ST that syringe did about 7% of my damage
yea and i got the champion befoulers syringe
it seems to proc at a good rate
sick jungle
my wep says it'll craft at 599
heady saffron
hmm staying above 80% life to keep lining up tho idk thats a tough one
ascension is just unga bunga and it buffs you as combat goes :O
safe juniper
Sims have me going around 22% haste not above sounds right for most here ?
native saffron
my wep says it'll craft at 599
The max crafted spark gear with no crest is 606
nimble pewter
how big is difference between Spear and Roar atm.?
cedar depot
you should sim it for your char
sick jungle
The max crafted spark gear with no crest is 606
k ty
guys how bad is ascendence in keys
is it just straight up better to go sym?
sick jungle
ya I can do it with my guy just gotta spend some conc
viral jasper
the pvp medals can be used to make 609 gear too
not unique equipped either, was able to make 2 rings and a neck after doing 1600 climb
safe juniper
love that dot even if it drops after it applies to somethin that dies it goes on as a nature damage poison
slow quest
guys what's going on I see so many fury on top in normal logs
storm rune
the pvp medals can be used to make 609 gear too
oh dang, I've been deleting those as they pop in my inventory lol
viral jasper
the green ones are worthless you get purple wons from ranked though
took 3 purple per jewelry
storm rune
oh okay good, I wasn't trashing the useful ones
slow quest
clapping ads looks good on logs
aoe nerf incoming?
storm rune
I got frankly destroyed by a ilvl 574 ret today in ST
safe juniper
i think its fine now in mythic the damage profiles will shift
we good at 1 thing while some are good at everythin
silk wharf
Fury is a bit more than just fine at the thing its good at.
sick jungle
do i slam it 🤔
storm rune
Aint my account, do it
junior gale
just remember we will laugh at you when they nerf the weapon embelishment on friday
oblique trail
hmm staying above 80% life to keep lining up tho idk thats a tough one
We already had really good uptime of BSL in DF, which required 90% HP. It really isn't that bad to maintain at a reasonable uptime
junior gale
Blizzard has nerfed shit that doesnt need to be nerfed plenty of times
storm rune
Pretty much our point
trail viper
are yall taking ilvl upgrades over correct stats?
oblique trail
yes
You'd generally want to do that for everything, exceptions typically being trinkets/jewelry
junior gale
we most likely will not see a tuning patch next week
silk wharf
"correct stats" very rarely overcome raw ilvl
pliant jackal
you guys playing arms after crafting the two handed weapon?
vague copper
Sim bigger but I don't know about the drawback ><
native saffron
y'all thinking it'll get nerfed again?
What content are you running currently?
ornate gust
do i slam it 🤔
Did you craft it?
sick jungle
nah I havent yet
storm rune
you guys playing arms after crafting the two handed weapon?
Sounds like a DPS loss to me
sick jungle
What content are you running currently?
looking to get back into raiding/m+
sick jungle
k my buddy wants the sword anyways so I guess I'll just slam it for him tmrw
pliant jackal
Alright I'll hold my craft
native saffron
Just hold your craft
I think when people keep on posting screenshots of their chars here with crafted weapons people tend to follow it
oblique trail
You don't need the crafted item to clear any content this week, and you still don't know if Blizzard will decide to rip an embellishment nerf or not
They've done stranger things
native saffron
Ye
serene vessel
chat im worried were gonna get nerfed
oblique trail
From what
willow cradle
Honestly it wouldn't be so bad to recraft stuff if it wasn't for the acuity cost.
oblique trail
It's already soft capped
keen valve
Are the spec from wowhead in nerubar sections viable?
https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/nerub-ar-palace-raid-tips
serene vessel
oh hmm
willow cradle
Are the spec from wowhead in nerubar sections viable?
https://www.wowhead.com/g...
Theyre good yeah, there might be some specific per boss optimization but you won't wipe cause of that
untold yacht
Aight what’s my beta option for a weapon? Delve?
open storm
cant even find the weekly for the other fragment wtf
willow cradle
Unless you get a heroic raid weapon yeah
open storm
do i have to do the delves for the chest?
willow cradle
cant even find the weekly for the other fragment wtf
What do you mean exactly? The world quest with key fragments?
untold yacht
The pvp one?
willow cradle
Do you mean the things you combine into a spark?
untold yacht
There are 100 sparks in pvp
willow cradle
You can cast it while bladestorming
willow cradle
So it's a DPS gain technically to use it if you have it talented
heady saffron
BEEG 30k hit 💪
unreal onyx
Is that actually worth it?
heady saffron
from grey parse to green
willow cradle
Although I don't see why you'd talent it in raid in the first place
heady saffron
😎
unreal onyx
Margin of error, won’t bother
willow cradle
It's probably people like me who just cleared raid with m+ talents on tbh
violet thorn
do you guys hold CDs for add phase?
willow cradle
Depends
unreal onyx
Kind of a very broad question
violet thorn
rephrase
unreal onyx
Or very unspecific
violet thorn
how long would you be willing to hold CDs for adds
unreal onyx
Depends how many adds I would assume
willow cradle
Like are adds in 10 seconds? If so yeah, if adds are coming in 40 seconds and I'd lose a whole cast of a CD over it no
storm rune
Generally you try to time your CDs to line up with specific phases so it becomes a non-issue
unreal onyx
Or just check lorrgs for brain off
open storm
Do you mean the things you combine into a spark?
yes that
storm rune
Like Linc was saying about testing AM on certain fights, you can min max your CD and CDR for specific scenarios
cyan turtle
wich ones are the easy delves again to do on alts?
willow cradle
Ultimately it depends on a couple variables.
1- are you losing overall damage by holding vs sending
2- does your raid even need you to use CDs there
3- if you hold CDs would you lose a potential cast of them
That's usually what I ask myself when progging bosses
willow cradle
yes that
I got mine off raid earlier but you should be able to get it off delves or dungeons
rapid shoal
which delve is the easiest to farm to tier 8?
wicked dew
which delve is the easiest to farm to tier 8?
Tak-Rethan
open storm
Ah okay
willow cradle
Bro stop
Lmao
Wait no nvm that's the good one
You can look up how to hit the boss with the mech before it pulls you out to speed clear it
red berry
acuity this expansion
is genuinely fucking miserable
idk why they're doing it the way they are
unless they plan to give it out every week like they did in DF starting next week
tardy axle
how do you even get more
im doing like tailor enchanting disenchant shuffles and i got nothing
keen nimbus
am i missing something? i dont see q quest to get the 4th fractured spark of omen ?
violet thorn
why does it seem like people are casting execute as more than just filler in raid? is it to get BS back up?
on aoe build fights w/o AJ
neat gazelle
am i missing something? i dont see q quest to get the 4th fractured spark of ome...
This week it’s the 10world quests
Pretty sure
willow cradle
is genuinely fucking miserable
Ikr, worse is that recrafts cost acuity too so you're encouraged to not recraft but instead make stuff from scratch.
covert void
is this map thing for delves confirmed?
silk wharf
oh, what map thing
covert blaze
am i missing something? i dont see q quest to get the 4th fractured spark of ome...
I got it from the 2 nerubian delve quests
silk wharf
I just assumed you were asking if they existed or not
Open what chest. you shouldnt be doing a bountiful until tier 8
covert void
ah just the larias guide that someone gave me mentions 610 gear, 3 maps per week that can drop depending on current tier youre in
but says uncomnfirmed, figured someone would've seen by now
fresh ivy
also are there any "bis" slots for brann?
covert blaze
I got 610 belt from an 8
An 8 gave me a map that works on my next 8 for the extra xhest
covert void
just kind of sucks if you get one before you're at 8s I guess, without an alt anyways
willow cradle
is this map thing for delves confirmed?
Just don't right click the buff
willow cradle
Yeah you can use it mid delve too
vague copper
once per week or how many?
toxic dawn
Yo I just got this and it sims better than the ara-kara trinket. I'm just unsure that the downside isn't properly accounted for. Any thoughts on whether Its worth using or is potentially getting like minus 3k mastery (aka minus 3k dmg% from enrage) worth the strength that we consistently get?
vague copper
3 delves = 3 trinket... And the quest gave a.... Trinket
toxic dawn
Im just gonna trust the sim actually. I didnt consider that it had mastery on it as well so worst case scenario we're only losing like 2143 mastery but gain 3.1k str consistently
fresh ivy
do u have to fully clear delves for mobs?
oblique trail
Yo I just got this and it sims better than the ara-kara trinket. I'm just unsure...
Send a quicksim with it on then I can check for you, but presumably it works as intended
vivid lagoon
Today I got two trinkets , ring and shoulders from delves
still basin
https://i.imgur.com/xIPy2xr.png If I have this, can I teleport out / leave or will it lose the Bountiful Status? This is Tier 8 and last Boss is iffy
vivid lagoon
You won’t lose
You can leave and do it again
You only lose once you complete the delve
vapid mulch
Yeah you level to 8 on an alt
You don’t need to level to 8, wowhead says they only drop in bountiful delves
vivid lagoon
It won’t go away
still basin
So hearthing out is fine?
covert void
even if you use a map btw?
vivid lagoon
Yes it is
covert void
just for future ref
still basin
Cheers will test
vapid mulch
I levelled to 7 on my warr and hopped into 8s with bountiful
And didn’t get a map before
vivid lagoon
I think the only hard delve was the one with the big rat that explodes and kill everyone
I forgot the name
That boss was hard
silk wharf
Waxface
south kayak
Is it better to join plate stack world tour?
unreal onyx
I would say so
At least there’s a chance someone already has that slot on m0 ilvl and can trade
Cant have that with cloth
red berry
what's peoples fav dev to spam with coffer keys
keen nimbus
i mean how am i supposed to complete the weekly delf quest if i cant do them without losing the bountifull off the day ?
late forum
You can’t spam, since it’s 4 bountiful delves/day
versed cipher
Is this even worth it? https://imgur.com/n6Pq3op
red berry
let me reword, then. what should i run for my four for the day
late forum
It’s fixed. 1 bountiful each day/zone
red berry
that tracks. that'll show me for not knowing anything, thanks
humble cape
how the hell do you get a spark this week
unique thistle
x2 delve quest
unique thistle
it isnt for bountifuls, or at least it wasnt for me? Had to do 2 with spiders
molten wing
its 2 nerubian delves
cyan turtle
Yo I just got this and it sims better than the ara-kara trinket. I'm just unsure...
what a trap trinket in a way if it dosent sim right
fresh ivy
we crafting 2h straight away?
humble cape
anyone do skittering 8 solo?
shy anvil
we can craft any 2 hand weapon right? doesnt need to be charged claymore they are all the same?
lofty delta
we can craft any 2 hand weapon right? doesnt need to be charged claymore they ar...
Ye, I'm doing axe cause that's what I can make
storm rune
So hearthing out is fine?
Someone earlier hwarthed out and lost the bounty, so I suggest walking
chilly sapphire
Do you just send non bountiful delves to farm maps?
still basin
Someone earlier hwarthed out and lost the bounty, so I suggest walking
Hearthed out didnt lose it was fine =)
But it seems like you get just 603 world quest gear... not a separate pool
stoic pebble
did you guys craft gear with the season 1 release or you still saving?
storm rune
Saving
cyan turtle
anyone else had the boss crawl out of the floor?
burnt stone
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/tKSbyVNoKeGbs4LWBidzCc
Maxroll has now been changed to Talents, which does not use an OS like Wowhead, and maxroll apl has also been changed accordingly.
Among them, the biggest difference between Wowhead and MaxRoll APL is that when there are 3 stacks of MfE (Marked for Execution) debuff, the priority of Execute increases.
So, in the basic APL, when there were 3 stacks of MfE debuffs, I changed the priority of Execute to the highest and simulated it.
dps increased by 0.1% lol
molten wing
its like the butcher in diablo randomly shows up
cyan turtle
its like the butcher in diablo randomly shows up
yeah exactly, really suprised me
since i was fighting a big dude already
humble cape
sword looks fooken crazy
rustic obsidian
soo 😄 what we gonna be crafting? wep?
fickle bluff
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/tKSbyVNoKeGbs4LWBidzCc
Maxroll has now b...
youre working with an old apl this has already been changed
keen nimbus
this weekly delf quest ...
if u look on map all the ones highlighted for the quest are bountifulls
except for 1
covert void
does also say if its bountiful before you start lol
keen nimbus
yeah but i mean
i wanna do the weekly
just not use bountifulls
but that doesnt seem an option
covert void
i mean, fair, arent we just doing both anyways today?
keen nimbus
bountifulls as tier 8
still basin
Is Zekvir supposed to be like a type of Butcher like in Diablo?
keen nimbus
so if u do em now and its not 8
still basin
Kinda took me by surprise
still basin
ah gotcha
covert void
so if u do em now and its not 8
well yeh, so do others, to t8, then go do the quest ones etc.
i get what you mean tbf
but seen as we'll be doing them anyways its w.e
keen nimbus
i know what you mean, was jsut looking for a way to get that spark needed to craft my weap before i tackle the tier 8 delf
but i get it
covert void
i know what you mean, was jsut looking for a way to get that spark needed to cra...
yeh fair mate
crystal nebula
Do I prio rampage over bloodbath unless at 5 stacks of bloodcraze?
or send the bloodbath every time before rampage
glass kelp
hey guys, i got 2 sparks would you recommend crafting both weapons ?
oblique trail
You CB > BB > Ramp at all times
ONly time you would Ramp ahead of them is if you need to enrage
crystal nebula
ok ty
oblique trail
hey guys, i got 2 sparks would you recommend crafting both weapons ?
First of all you need 2 sparks per 2hander
Secondly, just hold your craft till Mythic week
glass kelp
ohh okay, thanks a lot
sage ridge
Do you hold Raging Blow below 100 rage if you have a Opportunist stack?
quick zodiac
You CB > BB > Ramp at all times
Is it always CB first ?
oblique trail
yes
Unless you're in the pretty unlikely situation of being at 90%+ crit on BB, then you'd prio that first
quick zodiac
Ok thx !
oblique trail
But tracking that is pretty useless info in fairness
sage ridge
You still use it a lot
oblique trail
You press BB on CD basically
errant vessel
Do you hold Raging Blow below 100 rage if you have a Opportunist stack?
I tried putting it in the APL and it seemed to be a 0.1% dps loss
oblique trail
You can play around Opportunist, but frankly I wouldn't personally bother with it
errant vessel
Prob because there’s a higher risk of “dead” gcds
oblique trail
It's such a tiny gain and a lot more to think about constantly, than just keep the general prio rolling
sage ridge
Yeah I am assuming if you can use a Rampage at like 80-90 rage it might be better to do that instead of a RB and use the stack on CB
errant vessel
It's such a tiny gain and a lot more to think about constantly, than just keep t...
I couldn’t make it a gain personally
oblique trail
Tbf me calling it a gain isn't even true
The sim I saw had it be within margin
Or even less than margin
sage ridge
It seems to be pretty pointless
iron portal
World boss is in Ringing Deeps?
errant vessel
Ye I think the dmg increase from pooling is around the same as the damage decrease from not getting an extra replenish on RB
molten wing
World boss is in Ringing Deeps?
yeah its a bit pepega
iron portal
how ocme
molten wing
gotta do some weird escort event
before you can start the boss
quest also doesn't work in raid
cyan turtle
dose the delve scale if u go in as grp?
molten wing
yeah
i heard delve with 5 people is oneshot city so most people do it with 4 or 3 people
odd star
is the difference big if you go frenzied enrage in m+? the feels prefer frenzied if you know what i mean, wowhead says powerful for m+
tardy lark
is the difference big if you go frenzied enrage in m+? the feels prefer frenzied...
aoe favors powerful enrage while the difference is very small in ST
tardy lark
frenzied will be ahead slightly in most gear permutations
iron portal
gotta do some weird escort event
Ok thanks beer
odd star
frenzied is ahead strongly in fun, but behind in hand health
onyx widget
Hi
What enchants do we want on weapons for fury? tried google but getting too mixed results
tardy lark
Hi
What enchants do we want on weapons for fury? tried google but getting too mi...
just go to #dps-faq or wowhead
jolly sparrow
topped damage in LFR, we're OP
tardy lark
jolly sparrow
wintry tide
hi guys any suggestion for craft ? is better wrist and cloak with emb or weapon ?
heavy sparrow
Mountain thane is good gameplay
It also significantly improves mass aoe for fury
Just needs to make BT proc lightning, and the capstone should proc avatar during avatar, i think that with these 2 fixes, it should be competitive to slayer, if that's not enough they can just buff some other stuff some more
gilded pawn
Significantly is a strong word
Both slayer and thane aoe are 8t capped
Thane just makes your whirlwind not shit which is the main advantage
heavy sparrow
The second part was about st, thane aoe is already good
heavy sparrow
In fact is thane or slayer better in aoe?
As far as gameplay is concerned, i prefer thane
oblique trail
For sustained AoE Thane is better
heavy sparrow
Significantly
oblique trail
But not by a significant amount
heavy sparrow
Mostly because i do not like bladestorm
rustic obsidian
are you all holding the craft till mythic week? we wont be rushing into mythic anyways tho...
oblique trail
If you're smart, you hold
heavy sparrow
Ravager has always been more fun
gilded pawn
It also significantly improves mass aoe for fury
This is what I’m referring to
cyan turtle
look at me, im the ravager now
gilded pawn
Thane only is significantly better in sustained 5t
Else the gap is pretty small in aoe
And slayer is burstier
heavy sparrow
even more reason to fix thane, aside the awful st
burnt kelp
Ravager is a copy of bladestorm, if you have to pick between the original and a copy, of course you pick the original
heavy sparrow
Like if it's barely better at it's niche compared to slayer there's a problem
oblique trail
Welcome to how Fury has felt for a long time now with being target capped
Except it wasn't actually better at their niche target cap
burnt kelp
at least other classes share the misery now
gilded pawn
Blizzard did say that as long as the hero talents are within 10% it’s fine
So we prob won’t see anything for a bit
burnt kelp
yeah I don't think blizzard gives a shit, and it's not even a critic
heavy sparrow
I think instead they just made more classes soft capped instead.
Like even fury is somewhat "uncapped" at this point with the hero talents
burnt kelp
I think blizzard had an idea of an elite spec per spec
and decided to give 2 choices for fun
but in reality slayer is for fury, thane is for prot
and colossus is for arms
maybe they'll buff colossus since it sucks so much
like the vampire dk spec is obviously designed specifically for blood
heavy sparrow
They wanted to make one for storm one for ravager, otherwise ravager would always be the option unless storm was doing like insane damage?
gilded pawn
Yeah
They also had to buff storm by 70% and nerf rav by 30%
The game was rigged from the start
lilac mica
detachable fang trinket any good?
fading bane
Its high prio if the SD proc is falling off
glass kelp
on ST situations like in raids, can i fill with Whirlwind or it has to be Slam for ST ?
restive narwhal
Do we solo Delves 8 ? Easy?
covert void
we used carved to 606 right? only on say, bountiful pieces. Just maxed valor so need to spend a bit of it.
oblique trail
on ST situations like in raids, can i fill with Whirlwind or it has to be Slam f...
If you have improved WW talented, you press WW, otherwise you Slam
chrome plover
Do the maps only drop in normal delves?
they only drop in the bountiful coffer i thought?
chrome plover
so i should still rank up to 8 on an alt
covert void
not had any maps yet tbf
upbeat sentinel
yes
covert void
and did to 8, and 2 bountiful
chrome plover
they are a 4% chance i also heard
upbeat sentinel
My alt got 1
chrome plover
but seems what im hearing is bs
upbeat sentinel
They just got it in a lvl 5 :^)
chrome plover
it has a 4% chance from each side chest in a Bountiful Delve (not the chest that requires a key) -- it does not seem to drop from non-bountiful Delves.
this is from wowhead
covert void
just a luck thing then
rustic obsidian
and those are usable on non-bountiful r8s?
chrome plover
is it wrong?
plucky ice
seems nobody knows for sure
hollow ridge
LETS GO SOLO DEATHLESS 11!
chrome plover
They just got it in a lvl 5 :^)
well was that bountiful?
covert void
Zevkir just fucked me up lmao
hollow ridge
I did it in fungal folly, have been using the spores to kill the mobs and wait for healing cds b4 each pack so I can live the inital damage
final boss is just kite and avoid all mechanics, just have to survive his autos
upbeat sentinel
well was that bountiful?
no
errant vessel
If you clear a bountiful delve, is the delve still bountiful without the key chest or is it just a normal one?
chrome plover
If you clear a bountiful delve, is the delve still bountiful without the key che...
just the normal one
errant vessel
Damn
plucky ice
what if you just don't loot the end chests while leveling ur delve to 8
can't loot a map
upbeat sentinel
then we know, thanks
has anyone gotten one out of a bountiful
chrome plover
can't loot a map
postmaster probabyl
cedar crypt
If you clear a bountiful delve, is the delve still bountiful without the key che...
If you clear a bountiful and don’t loot the chest it takes the bountiful away but keeps your key if that’s what ur asking
plucky ice
oof
chrome plover
has anyone gotten one out of a bountiful
idk
i will just do 4-7 on an alt for safety np
then i guess spam non-bountiful 8s for maps
cedar crypt
My friend got 2 maps out of bountiful 8s you get a map, and have to complete a NEW bountiful to get the loot
errant vessel
I thought it was only bountiful chests that gave maps?
bright finch
how is soloing a tier 8 delve? Didn't get a chance to play yesterday.
upbeat sentinel
My friend got 2 maps out of bountiful 8s you get a map, and have to complete a N...
The map is specifically a bountiful map?
like it cant bused in a normal 8
rotund ginkgo
:3
cedar crypt
The loot from the map will only come from your “next” bountiful
Map comes from your “last” bountiful
upbeat sentinel
The loot from the map will only come from your “next” bountiful
That's not how the map I got worked
i popped it in the delve I looted it in and got the loot in that delve
hollow ridge
how is soloing a tier 8 delve? Didn't get a chance to play yesterday.
its tricky depending on the delve, having a tank partner makes it waaay easier
cedar crypt
Where did the map drop for you?
upbeat sentinel
Where did the map drop for you?
Earthcrawl Mines lvl 5
molten wing
i got it from my first bountiful delve , small chests
cedar crypt
Ok well maybe any chest out of delve can have nap but only bountiful gives it’s loot
upbeat sentinel
Ok well maybe any chest out of delve can have nap but only bountiful gives it’s ...
The harbringer guy spawned inside my normal delve and I got him down to like 60%
he ran off and I looted a horn or bone (idk which it was, could be either) and it gave the map mid-delve
popped it, looted end, got loot
He just rocked up like he was The Butcher and I was playing fucking Diablo
cedar crypt
Havnt heard that method of getting one that’s nice to know
He sucks yeah lol doable though
upbeat sentinel
Once I got him low he just dug into the ground and ran away
chrome plover
he ran off and I looted a horn or bone (idk which it was, could be either) and i...
oh right so that's the only way to get it in non-bountiful i guess
upbeat sentinel
oh right so that's the only way to get it in non-bountiful i guess
People said they looted them from small chests in bountiful
the only special part about bountiful is the big chest
chrome plover
the side chests are also "bountiful"
fickle cedar
Is there a reason why we're waiting for mythic week to craft the weapon ?
oblique trail
Because you don't need a crafted item this reset to clear the content, and there can be potential tuning after HC week
Blizzard has done stranger things before
covert void
is the emb that overly powerful compared to the others, must be I guess for the worry?
oblique trail
It's more just the fact that you have embellishments that can only be crafted on certain items, and that said items have a -3 max ilvl compared to the actual highest ilvl
rare coral
yummy
molten wing
so is there no "kill end boss" quest this time around
summer crater
Last boss in city of echoes is a great fun time in a full melee group
chilly sapphire
so you gotta farm non bountiful level 8 delves for maps, ye?
native saffron
Guys, through all my years of raiding, ive been told that looking at ilvl parses are irrelevent but whats the full reasoning behind that, or were all those cases wrong?
storm rune
Guys, through all my years of raiding, ive been told that looking at ilvl parses...
Too many variables
fickle cedar
Guys, through all my years of raiding, ive been told that looking at ilvl parses...
well I think its because most of the good/hardcore players are gonna be on the upper echelon of ilvl
molten wing
delves first probably
sinful glen
is it worth to upgrade some adventurer bis gear prior to going into m0 or is it waste of resources?
native saffron
Too many variables
Any example, just to understand?
storm rune
Like I could have 580 gear with 2 639 weapons, or a tier set or enchant or broken item equipped
covert void
skittering breach is meh I hear? how many of you solo'ed it
native saffron
Like I could have 580 gear with 2 639 weapons, or a tier set or enchant or broke...
Thank you
storm rune
I personally forgot to equip a helmet when I was checking out transmogs and parsed an ilvl 100
hollow shell
Im looking to take fury a bit more seriously than I have been, are the dps faqs up to date? If i go to any rotation advice it wont be outdated information will it?
storm rune
But at that level im competing with people an entire raid gear ilvl lower
Wowhead/IV are generally and currently up to date
hollow shell
Thankyou
quartz pulsar
should we craft the charged claymore now?
storm rune
skittering breach is meh I hear? how many of you solo'ed it
Pretty tough if you pull an entire pack, but you can pick groups apart and it becomes hella easy
plus use the environment to your advantage
covert void
oh wait nvm i got dread pit lol as last
bleak prawn
Now that I am 80 I should switch from mountain thane to slayer right? And follow one of those guides? Or is thane still the best option for pve content like world quests and such?
rare coral
bois
wasnt there a talent to reduce bladestorm / odins fury cooldown by using execute?
covert void
is level 8 doable?
yes
opal sail
is level 8 doable?
go prot and laugh yourself through it
covert void
still doable
coral zealot
i have to start at level 43?
storm rune
solo fury is insane
coral zealot
4?
storm rune
wasnt there a talent to reduce bladestorm / odins fury cooldown by using execute...
yeah that's your slayer capstone
Unrelenting Onslaught
covert void
so can do same one mulitple?
yep just exit then go back in and set it to 1 higher
coral zealot
perfect
storm rune
unless you're thinking of the CDR from our S3 set, or maybe AM?
hollow shell
If I have the titan's torment capstone talent, does casting odyn's fury after casting avatar add both avatar durations together?
Im wondering when im supposed to cast the next odyns fury, im assuming when the first odyns fury dot has dropped
jolly mist
correct me if im wrong but avatar duration is capped to 20 so u have to wait a little to cast of afterwards
i think of grants 4 seconds?
and avatar is 16?
hollow shell
Oh so that lines up well because the dot is also 4 seconds and i normally wait for it to drop off anyway
rigid kestrel
Does anyone know if the delve thingy is true, you should level them on an alt and not a main?
jolly mist
Does anyone know if the delve thingy is true, you should level them on an alt an...
no
just do
regular
delves
til 8
then spam bountifuls
magic hull
should we craft 2 hander or wait til next week?
covert void
should we craft 2 hander or wait til next week?
no need to rush, just wait.
jolly mist
im not crafting anything
summer lion
If you fuck up a bountiful delve by dying its not bountiful for the rest of the day?
covert void
If you fuck up a bountiful delve by dying its not bountiful for the rest of the ...
just don't complete it, if you do, then I think so?
like if you lose all your lives
5
basically meant to just reset it if you die that much
molten wing
If you fuck up a bountiful delve by dying its not bountiful for the rest of the ...
if you die more than 5 times just leave the delve
and go back in again
summer lion
Thanks, ive been sitting in this delve trying to look that information up before continuing or leaving 😄
sand crest
did t8 delves with a healer friend and brann dps
made it so easy
brann dps is crazy
covert void
yeh just finished the 4th all solo fury, some bosses are close lol
just got a map
but as the chests already spawned, Im assuming another doesnt spawn after using it
coral zealot
what delve is easiest
obtuse jolt
I cant solo T8 😦 neither as a tank and neither as a fury
cant heal thru all this dmg
covert void
oh seriously fuck off. 4 delves and had a duplicate item.
of course.
out of all the slots and items, two cloaks
coral zealot
ah sound
obtuse jolt
Any tips for T8 delves
vapid mulch
out of all the slots and items, two cloaks
Lmao same for me xd
covert void
Any tips for T8 delves
take your time, i waited for c/ds on some packs etc.
vapid mulch
Ring and two cloaks
covert void
stuns are important af
daring flicker
cancel bladestorm?
covert void
Lmao same for me xd
yeh, so annoying. The amount of items oin that loot table I bet, to get two of the same in 4 runs is stupid.
obtuse jolt
using everything what i have what comp do you propose?
tank/fury brann dps heal?
coral zealot
take healer with you
covert void
i just wanted to see if i could solo tbf, but yeh just join a group if struggling
dense sedge
What embelishments we after on weps?
echo jungle
hi, does maxroll raid guide talents are still the most viable ?
stiff barn
Nothing yet
unreal onyx
i just wanted to see if i could solo tbf, but yeh just join a group if strugglin...
Is it hard?
vapid mulch
Hi guys what craft are you doing this week?
Nothing just wait for mythic
Hi guys are you crafting weapon this week?
Nope just wait
Heeey what’s everyone crafting now we got two sparks?
Nothing yet no rush.
Guys shall I craft a weapon and what embellishment do I need?
Nope not yet.
Hello guys I’m going to craft my first embelishment anyone know what we need?
Don’t craft with a spark yet
dense sedge
I got Befouler's syringe any good my guys?
covert void
Hi guys what craft are you doing this week?
Nothing just wait for mythic
Hi g...
bit annoying when they don't even remotely check the channel first. Like, scroll up a tiny bit. Check pins etc.
errant vessel
I got Befouler's syringe any good my guys?
simmed 2% better same ilvl on ST for me and around same decrease on 5t 2 min
onyx fox
I got Befouler's syringe any good my guys?
Mine was a big upgrade
errant vessel
donno how often it procs so it might be pretty op in low dungeons
onyx fox
Simit
covert void
Is it hard?
Erm, I found taking your time is best. Waiting for cooldowns on some packs. Only issue really was final boss a few times. Some took 2/3 tries.
misty parcel
bit annoying when they don't even remotely check the channel first. Like, scroll...
I did actually, no need to be annoyed. This is actually the mythic week so I wanted to ask if anyone started crafting.
dense sedge
Ah cool gonna give it a whirl
covert void
I did actually, no need to be annoyed. This is actually the mythic week so I wan...
And it's been asked and answered about, 10+ times in the last hour?
not been annoyed
just saying there's people that come in and ask, and it sliterally been answered a few scrolls above.
misty parcel
And it's been asked and answered about, 10+ times in the last hour?
I won't scroll 500 messages when an active chat can answer if they don't mind
covert void
indeed
summer crater
Erm, I found taking your time is best. Waiting for cooldowns on some packs. Only...
And many times you can even pull one mob at a time with throw
edgy widget
I did actually, no need to be annoyed. This is actually the mythic week so I wan...
By mythic week we tend to mean mythic raid not M+0
misty parcel
By mythic week we tend to mean mythic raid not M+0
Oh right that's the info I was missing
Thought it was m0 release
edgy widget
But it’s fine, that’s why there’s an FAQ!
misty parcel
Yup, ty ! c:
fickle cedar
Question for my folks here, do we use keys on bountiful T8s ?
covert void
Question for my folks here, do we use keys on bountiful T8s ?
yes
stiff barn
Yes
fickle cedar
thank you
coral zealot
defo need healer lol
covert void
defo need healer lol
I think next time i'll just dive into a group tbh, far easier no doubt lol
spare steppe
Just don’t do a group for the underkeep
Each of those charging mobs has 300m health which makes killing 3 of then take forever
rotund ginkgo
:3
daring blaze
Would anyone be willing to tell me on which bosses in nerubar palace you are using a pure ST build vs. a multi target build that takes meat cleaver? I'm having a hard time figuring out which amount and kind of adds in a fight make us prioritize one over the other. Thanks in advance and sorry if that has already been said
worn sonnet
whats hte best delve to farm t?
spare steppe
Would anyone be willing to tell me on which bosses in nerubar palace you are usi...
Wowhead has a section for that!
round tusk
t8 delves one shotting with a full group fml
daring blaze
Wowhead has a section for that!
goddamn, going to look for that. ty!
coral zealot
literally
spare steppe
I followed it last night, most of the bosses have adds except maybe 3 I think?
spare steppe
Prot spec
round tusk
i left after 20 deaths
spare steppe
And get really lucky with curios too
daring blaze
Wowhead has a section for that!
It took less time finding that than it took writing my message, ty again
worn sonnet
are you just doing one delve 8x or you doing different ones?
rotund ginkgo
just did abyss delve t8 on my 580 alt
doable
3 deaths
approx 10 mins maybe
maybe less
worn sonnet
yeah i will do 4x on alt as well
rotund ginkgo
if u die more than 5 times it wont unlock next tier
for ex i died 7 times on a delve and had to redo it
covert void
enchants atm are absolutely ridiculous lol
worn sonnet
oof
covert void
price wise
quick inlet
And then you need 2 lol
worn sonnet
they always are early 1st season
covert void
they always are early 1st season
had a glance, even rank 1's. f that. can do without lmao.
cyan turtle
Just use radiant
worn sonnet
thats where a guild comes in handy
cyan turtle
Its like 12k
round tusk
I did it in fungal folly, have been using the spores to kill the mobs and wait f...
bump. this is huge
worn sonnet
just did abyss delve t8 on my 580 alt
so i guess my ret pala needs to feel the pain in abyss 😄
rustic obsidian
there is no difference between charged and everforged crafted weps right?
worn sonnet
sadge
worn sonnet
https://tenor.com/view/itsover-wojack-gif-4367840179675491690
but hey you can do them daily 😄
runic cypress
worn sonnet
coral zealot
dam these delves are hard
daring blaze
593
stiff barn
603 or 606 fully upgraded
thorny pelican
for ST, when rampage is not up, RB or BT prio?
fickle bluff
rb
spring jacinth
anyone test single minded fury yet? 8 m0s got only 1h ( from bosses that didn't drop 2h , was switching) 😄
thorny pelican
also got 1hs
coral zealot
this delves will get nerfed
fickle bluff
are you trying to do zekvir
coral zealot
2/5 lives left
worn sonnet
isnt this oneshot area?=
coral zealot
tak rethan
fickle bluff
then its just a skill issue sadly
hollow ridge
bump. this is huge
quick inlet
I did with a typical tank/dps/heal combo and it was pretty easy outside of unexpected one shot mechanics
serene moat
anyone test single minded fury yet? 8 m0s got only 1h ( from bosses that didn't ...
Arms lootspec allows you to get 1h weapons? 
worn sonnet
i heard so many times that tank is "free" compared to all others , so i guess i am happy that i geared prot to 587
coral zealot
spiral weave hard?
storm rune
achieves afaik
rotund ginkgo
ait
spring jacinth
Arms lootspec allows you to get 1h weapons? <:deadge:900279927138578432>
was switching lootspecs between bosses
round tusk
<:peepoBlush:818323879315505233>
now figure out how to no death waterworks please :D
hollow ridge
runic viper
Stuck 😦
molten wing
happened to me waited for like 1 min or two
runic viper
get release cant leave delve
molten wing
and it was available for me to release
errant vessel
try listing a group convert to raid and then leave it
donno if it works in delves as well
runic viper
will do thanks a lot
runic cypress
now to get it next week
nah im picking up Wild Hammer next week
keen nimbus
am i jsut unlucky or are there more people that didnt see zekvir in the leveling upto tier 8 or in tier 8 itself
round tusk
<:critcake:984549832511344640>
just killed spinshroom holy fk ty. probably only t8 delve imma attempt wth im sweating
after like 20 deaths in waterworks i mean
warm pewter
so are y'all crafting weapon this week ornah
molten wing
i did my delves semi afk just pulled packs when i had cds
and then afked until they are back 😄
round tusk
i did 4-7 on alt unholy dk didn't feel hard at all. then 8 on my warrior main just felt rough
coral zealot
fury is hard
narrow narwhal
Skill issue
worn sonnet
luck issue
tribal siren
git gud
worn sonnet
loot banned
covert void
:'(
hollow elk
Friend runs delve " lol I got a weapon on my first run "
I run it , three trinkets and bracers.
worn sonnet
damn , cant wait to get home and get absolute garbo loot
coral zealot
dh tank getting pretty smoked in delves
last coral
yo guys quick question, is 1hand fury viable if i have much better 1hander options?
tardy lark
you'll be able to do most content with an int sword if you pleased
SMF is about a 5ish% loss yes
rotund ginkgo
you'll have to literally have 640 ilvl 1handers vs a 590 2hander
to actually be stronger with smf
last coral
thats actually sad damn
runic violet
rotund ginkgo
5-10
round tusk
can u solo t8 delves at that ilvl?
runic violet
bear, fury, a monk
edgy widget
can u solo t8 delves at that ilvl?
Prot can easily, but solo T8 delves are pretty rough as Fury
rotund ginkgo
i just soloed a t8
as both 581 and as 588
its ass
its doable
but its ass
u have to hold cds/wait it out sometimes
10-15min delve i think
round tusk
Prot can easily, but solo T8 delves are pretty rough as Fury
ill respec see what i can do as prot
runic violet
I'd just team up with someone to do t8 delves.
edgy widget
I soloed Skittering as my first T8 yesterday too and it was rough
bleak prawn
I apologize if someone answered this and I just didnt see. now that I am 80 I should swap to slayer hero talent right not thane?
rotund ginkgo
yeah theyre doable theyre just ass
edgy widget
and yeah basically you're waiting for CDs, stunning and bursting things down
rotund ginkgo
@bleak prawn for max dmg yes
identify prio targets in packs and burst down
and prayge
got leggies tho
:3 603
edgy widget
also if you're soloing Thane just seems way better than Slayer
round tusk
ty
bleak prawn
okay and if I am following a guide on icyveins should I do the multitarget build or single? sorry I am very new to the game and just trying not to be useless
edgy widget
basically all your pulls are multitarget, TBlast fucks, the extra DR helps, and you're not really able to maintain Slayer de/buffs
vast night
didn't sim it, but doesnt it look way better than the ara kara egg
edgy widget
okay and if I am following a guide on icyveins should I do the multitarget build...
- Single Target builds are for single target raid bosses
- Multitarget builds are for raid bosses with additional targets
- Mythic+ builds are for dungeons/delves
bleak prawn
oh okay I have always just used icy coming from diablo I will check out maxroll I dig them too
edgy widget
give 1.2k mastery and 3k strength?
except for the proc to lose stats, yes; dropping 3k haste or mastery is big sad
rotund ginkgo
i mean sim it
summer quail
idk man, it randomly lowers a secondary stat by alot
bleak prawn
- Single Target builds are for single target raid bosses
- Multitarget builds ar...
okay thanks for the advice I am feeling super overwhelmed with options lol
summer quail
hits your haste you're gonna feel so goddamn slow
vast night
what is good amount of haste?
rotund ginkgo
a lot
worn sonnet
if that hits on opener
edgy widget
what is good amount of haste?
more
vast night
yeah I know, literally upgraded 3 items to 606 and lost haste from all of them
coral zealot
under lord swam is painful
edgy widget
or mastery is never too much
not really ever too much, but you should not be worrying about specific amounts of stats, especially this early in the season where you're constantly changing to higher item level gear
edgy widget
is the ilvl worth the stat loss
not unless it's a pretty significant gap, and you can sim this yourself to see
vast night
Yeah, i know that normally. But currently my haste dropped very dramaticly xD
night relic
not unless it's a pretty significant gap, and you can sim this yourself to see
in queue
edgy widget
that's just how shit works
runic violet
edgy widget
higher ilvl is almost always better than better stat distributions
rotund ginkgo
tbh if the damage is the same i'd rock lower ilvl cuz id enjoy more haste
:3
like if the stat distribution is really THAT ass
but i doubti t
edgy widget
haste is nice, but it's not that end all be all
graceful trellis
all depends if you rock some prot warrior on the side , and don’t want to change gear
hollow mica
Does having Treacherous Transmitter change our opener at all or is it just send it?
empty carbon
are we crafting the 2hander first this week bois?
runic violet
Do M+0s and raids first.
bleak prawn
Do my hotkey bars change when I swap saved loadouts? Like will it save it the way I have it? Or do I have to manually change things when I switch them between different instances?
Also I found a build and guide to follow on wowhead but when I am out doing
world quests and such which one should I have equipped? I’m in the process of changing from thane to slayer so I just wanna make sure I use the right one between my, st raid, multi raid, and mythic setups
tidal yew
@empty carbon i think you should wait for the tuning pass
runic cypress
got a haste/mastery helm in the weird Shadowlands dungeon
WE'RE SO BACK CHAT
stuck cloud
hey is it a safe option to craft 2h Weapon now?
burnt kelp
I don't wanna go there mister frodo
stuck cloud
with embelishement?
gloomy loom
Why all warrior are crafting 2h swords and not axes?
burnt kelp
cuz swords look cool
storm rune
Why all warrior are crafting 2h swords and not axes?
cosmetics
gloomy loom
Any reason?
burnt kelp
no
gilded flicker
Guys why I feel like warpaint is better for raid (even aoe fights) and the other talent is better for m0
gloomy loom
Even in pvp?
storm rune
warpaint is op
gilded flicker
But as I have 12k mastery the other hits so much harder
thick fossil
necrotic wake gives me ptsd
Not sure if it's still the case, but there is some really fun reflectable things in there.
gilded flicker
Sorry I swap the talents I mean to talk about
storm rune
ah did you mean the enrage choice node
gilded flicker
I was talking about the ones that gives 15% haste (ppl are using on raids) and the other that gives enrage buff dmg
I feel like the other that gives flat enrage dmg plays better on m0
The haste buff is being chosen on logs for raids, but as I focusing on mastery the other feels better
storm rune
Yeah, that's what the sims show too
gilded flicker
Even on guided the haste buff is being chosen for m+ cenario
storm rune
For m+ you run flat damage, in ST raid you run the haste buff
gilded flicker
For m+ you run flat damage, in ST raid you run the haste buff
Got it
I need to practice my ST rotation … I really don’t like the spear choice
Need to see some guides about openers and priorities
jade cipher
guys i want to craft 2x item with versa embelishment on waist and wrist
instead of ascension because i play a lot of m+, how bad is it for raid?
storm rune
I'm not 100% on my opener in ST either tbh, I'm assuming something like Reck > Charge > Avvy+Ramp > Spear > BS > CB but order could be wrong
wild mural
wtb mastery
twilit harbor
thanks to @scarlet python for getting me my BiS trinket on our 4th bounty of the day
gilded flicker
I was using spear after bs to have more Rage to spend
But I’ll try that, guides are saying the same
velvet anchor
i have a question, i got 2 1 handed weapons, 603 and 593 and two 2 handed weapons, 480. should i use the 1 handed ones or the 2 handed ones
storm rune
I was using spear after bs to have more Rage to spend
Rage isn't very important, getting that damage amp in on BS which is your highest damage dealing ability is
gilded flicker
i have a question, i got 2 1 handed weapons, 603 and 593 and two 2 handed weapon...
I think @edgy widget answered that earlier, saying that you only use one handlers if it’s a dps gap, like your case
gilded flicker
Rage isn't very important, getting that damage amp in on BS which is your highes...
Yeah!
velvet anchor
thanks
gilded flicker
Thank you
storm rune
Just go SMF until you can upgrade your 2h
velvet anchor
so bad loot luck today only getting 1 handed weapons 😄
gilded flicker
Haha it happens
wild mural
Just go SMF until you can upgrade your 2h
this
gilded flicker
It’s going to be even more dynamic for you ahahaha
Any suggestion on which delve farm to get tier 8?
empty carbon
is lfr the only raid up or norm and heroic as well?
storm rune
all 3
quaint stag
so bad loot luck today only getting 1 handed weapons 😄
Did you have loot spec set to arms or fury?
empty carbon
always arms
fickle cedar
yeah always loot spec arms
gilded flicker
open storm
I’m reading the fragment for spark this week isn’t until s1 starts ???
runic cypress
wtb mastery
gilded flicker
forgot to use my new shoulder
fickle cedar
603 if you're lucky
edgy widget
I think <@61282228017041408> answered that earlier, saying that you only use one...
ilvl yes, 1hrs need to be significantly higher ilvl to beat 2hrs
south kayak
real warrior
inner juniper
you guys crafted weapon?
south kayak
how is fury warrior at 1st place in herioc raid for season 1
The fights really favor fury
wild mural
gimme
eager thorn
real warrior
Imagine if blizz gave us actually cool races to play like this
Instead of dwarf variant 2
main cape
How does the crafted weapon feel?
humble sierra
hi guys, now its the time to craft the 2Hsword using 2sparks?
buoyant salmon
i have a question, i got 2 1 handed weapons, 603 and 593 and two 2 handed weapon...
play arms loot spec
buoyant salmon
How does the crafted weapon feel?
its a weapon wdym lol
still basin
I was about to ask the same. If we only plan on play on playing Fury, we could craft it without embellishment ( to be safe? ) today and if you're lucky/unlucky in vault you just put it into offhand slot?
muted locust
Guys, what u think about use the catalyst on a hc ilvl chest??
muted locust
Okay ty
buoyant salmon
Guys, what u think about use the catalyst on a hc ilvl chest??
if youve done normal and heroic raid this week you could
but also
0 point in doing it now over next week
eager thorn
Tier set is ass anyway getting catalyst prob isnt big prio
south kayak
real