fury

[fading bane]

dont have to stand init

less clutter on screen

[south kayak]

yeah it's dumb honestly, it's like you don't even need gleaming htat much lol

make it balanced

[oblique trail]

I don't remember this no

[south kayak]

It was like 5k for a while

[fading bane]

i think purple ones were like 4k+

[south kayak]

resonant crystal

[covert blaze]

wasnt sophic devotion 3 like 150k on launchh

[orchid dagger]

So what's the difference between Slayer and Thane, both ST and MT

[south kayak]

yep

[fading bane]

i have something for this

[runic cypress]

Crystal prices will drop hardcore when lfr and vault comes out

[fading bane]

GM spent 300k on it, then they instadropped

cus of a hotfix

[orchid dagger]

Kek

[south kayak]

this expac?

[wind sentinel]

gotta milk those world first racers for every copper you can

[fading bane]

nah start of DF

[south kayak]

oh right

[covert blaze]

storm dust 3 is like 100g more in NA what the heck

[oblique trail]

NA L

[south kayak]

L bozo

[runic cypress]

This is why you wait until after heroic week

[covert blaze]

common

[south kayak]

@fading bane

I'm curious about something

I have a bit of augment runes, I was wondering when do I sell em

[fading bane]

hmm

[lofty delta]

I'm hoping the crystal prices spike.

[runic cypress]

When mythic opens

[lofty delta]

Totally haven't invested my money into it

[fading bane]

around mythic ye

but ppl dont start using them really

until later bosses

its hard to say

[rigid stirrup]

Thane has non existent ST when compared to slayer. AoE both are close enough to each other to where you would choose slayer because it's good in both high end st and aoe scenarios

[sick jungle]

refulgent crystals?

[south kayak]

Iirc, DF rune prices went way up after mythic week

[still imp]

Hi guys new to warrior, have a question. Do we use Bloodbath before 90% crit at all? Or we just wait and swap between Rampage and Crushing/Raging Blow? With the New Single Target Build in WoWhead withou Onslaught.

[lofty delta]

Ye

[south kayak]

when the supply went down

and demand up

[modest condor]

this one was almost worth it http://puu.sh/KeCyB/20bbc1177f.png

[sick jungle]

not a chance imo

[rigid stirrup]

If you aren't doing mythic raiding or high keys just play whatever you want

[sick jungle]

as long as darkmoon decks exist it'll stay cheap

[south kayak]

I crafted that lmao

[sick jungle]

they should've made the darkmoon decks blue or something lmao

[fading bane]

i wouldve made that

[oblique trail]

This is better than anything I've gotten on my BS

[south kayak]

yeah that's nothing compared to providing 10 sanctified alloy

[oblique trail]

That shit is rigged compared to my enchant/tailoring

[burnt kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/brad-pitt-deal-yeah-right-agreed-i-would-make-that-deal-gif-15679299

[fading bane]

tailoring is so cheap

[covert blaze]

are enchants gonna drop or go up the day heroic raid opens hmmge

[fading bane]

its inane

but it always is

[sick jungle]

bro that is an immediate slam complete

[south kayak]

I use Engi/tailoring and it has easy shit, BS is the only one that has ridiculous prices

[oblique trail]

Yeah, my enchanting orders as well are also omega ez (and fairly cheap) to finish

As long as I don't have Millhouse

[sick jungle]

i dont think I've had any patron orders on my bs that isn't 50k+ to finish

[south kayak]

These alloys are stupid

why is sanctified alloy 3.3k

[runic cypress]

alchemy Orders are usually alright

[sick jungle]

with ench as long as you spec the 20 points into glamours you are chillin on patron orders

[runic cypress]

Except for cauldrons

[oblique trail]

nah they're fucked as well

[runic cypress]

Fuck you millhouses

[eternal sundial]

Concentration

[south kayak]

What's that for?

[modest condor]

7k for 10 acquity i dont think so

[oblique trail]

I have 5 just sitting, requiring me to hit rank 3 on multiple flasks

That I just can't hit unless I crank conc

[fading bane]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/702976539725398087/1282292126662791199/image.png?ex=66e0249a&is=66ded31a&hm=57ebc98fcfee14305ad7aee319c64dbc8f2eb7c3a9fd9b8fa217cb31b19a2601& say that again

[south kayak]

ig you gotta wait a few weeks for that to not need any

[sick jungle]

easy slam 7k is nothing

[south kayak]

LMAO

[fading bane]

guildie got that

2x millhouse

ofc

[runic cypress]

Lmao unlucky

[sick jungle]

it's the ench items that you can craft that change your appearance

[runic cypress]

I usually get potions

[eternal sundial]

I dont think you can guarantee it at all

[south kayak]

it's joever

Some of the decisions regarding how much conc you need are questionable

[oblique trail]

im not gay!!! im not gay!! fuck millhouse!!! fuck fuck!!!

[eternal sundial]

Idk with r3 mats alloys are loss

[runic cypress]

Ok

[fading bane]

i never need r3 sanctified alloys tho

for patrons

[eternal sundial]

And with r2 it's like 200 conc per

[sick jungle]

i actually don't get conc at all lmao shit is wild

[south kayak]

wait even r2 is conc?

that is fucked

no way that's intended

[sick jungle]

if I wanted to craft a r5 charged claymore, even if I was short 1 skill it would take like 200+ conc

[eternal sundial]

Nono

Just r3

Typo

[south kayak]

ok

r2 is good enough for now

[south kayak]

yeah it's weird lol

I'm probably gonna make my own weapon

I think i can make it r5

[sick jungle]

I need to get my blue tools

but I don't want to shuffle

[fading bane]

get craftsim addon

[south kayak]

I got Tool hammer and apron blue

toolbox is green

[fading bane]

ill have 2x blue tools on wednesday prob

[hexed walrus]

do we have a pre raid launch BiS list?

[oblique trail]

yeah equip your highest ilvl

[fading bane]

590 crafted every slot + sac and skarmorak shard trinkets

[crystal kindle]

anyone have a link to the excel sheet with sims comparing fury and arms or where to find it?

[south kayak]

I didn't farm mop and wotlk engi just so i shuffle it

that's a no from me dog

[fading bane]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vR2mvnqtoXNlUoL-WvrwYdXfzAVULMSx82oKrGCj4z6XhEabUl8EtqoFLnAD4q4bNUTgE8tVP0-oJ9W/pubhtml @crystal kindle

[hexed walrus]

thank you

[crystal kindle]

thank you]

[south kayak]

speed boost and goblin glider enchant are too good

does engi have invisibility belt in tww

[orchid dagger]

So Thane is about as relevant as SMF lol

[fading bane]

Thane is good if u do massive pulls

so if ur steamrolling easy keys, then i can see it having a use

or pulling everything in m0

[robust prism]

I think they have a refurbished tinker that does invs

[orchid dagger]

If I'm steamrolling ez keys I'm playing SMF for +5% move speed

[south kayak]

thane is just cooler than slayer

don't @ me

[orchid dagger]

Because at that point the damage isn't the problem

[fading bane]

ye whynot

[orchid dagger]

But @restive peak said if it's worse you're trolling

[fading bane]

fun is banned

[hard widget]

That ST sim is outdated tho

For fury

[south kayak]

Fun > dps

[fading bane]

wouldnt know, havent looked at the sims directly

[eternal sundial]

Damage = fun

[still imp]

Hi guys new to warrior, have a question. Do we use Bloodbath before 90% crit at all? Or we just wait and swap between Rampage and Crushing/Raging Blow? With the New Single Target Build in WoWhead withou Onslaught.

[eternal sundial]

If i dont do damage it's not fun

[eternal sundial]

Play as per prio

[south kayak]

well, techically you are doing more aoe as thane

[eternal sundial]

Press BB after cb

[restive peak]

If you're playing competitive, yes

If you're playing for fun bruh do your thang lol

[winter shoal]

Had to bedge last night but did you ever end up making the APL change you were discussing?

[restive peak]

But again, people will likely not invite you

[winter shoal]

With the MfE exe in spear

[south kayak]

how do people know what im gonna play

i'm joining as slayer

changing to thane before key starts

[fading bane]

i think no one actively checks if warriors are playing smf

[south kayak]

they don't actively check anything lol

[eternal sundial]

Has decent io, has to be tg

[oblique trail]

I actively check any warrior that joins my pug groups

[eternal sundial]

Easy check

[restive peak]

Good way to get blacklisted when you do less dps and they notice you did tbh

[coarse nest]

Just pull the feral move, que as fury and swap to arms during the count down

[south kayak]

if I'm doing as well as them, i don't see why they would care about that

[eternal sundial]

You can get away with arms just fine

Not with smf

[restive peak]

Like people can do w/e they want, the other plays can also do w/e they want, and I know personally if I was pugging 1 of my higher keys and someone was actively choosing to do less, I would remember them for the future

[coarse nest]

Yeah Smf is dogshit

[eternal sundial]

You cannot do equal damage at smf

[restive peak]

Well because the reality is if you're in a high enough environment, you won't do equal damage

[eternal sundial]

Especially you arent 5% better than good warriors

[fading bane]

90% of ppl in lfg cant press their kick, i dont think pugs care if u do 5% less in a random group

[restive peak]

IF you were good enough to outplay everyone that deeply, you'd be on echo/liquid/have a team

[winter shoal]

At equal skill levels yeah, but I think smf gajeel beats most of us here

[restive peak]

which isn't even a diss, it's just true

[coarse nest]

Let’s be realistic anybody pushing high io plays whatever is the best
They don’t sit in this discord and try to convince us that Smf is comparable

[eternal sundial]

I am confident i can tie him with 5% debuff cuz smf is that shit

[restive peak]

Ye I've been on a team w Gajeel, if he actively gimped himself by 5-7%, he'd likely lose

Just like if I played SMF vs him he'd crank me

Vice versa

[winter shoal]

I have no shame in saying I'm more than 5% behind his best on my best pulls

[fading bane]

no one else is talking about r1 pushing keys tho

[winter shoal]

I think at least

[balmy shore]

yo gajeel? big fan

[eternal sundial]

The difference is he always does his damage, i do not

[restive peak]

Gajeel is 1 of the GOATs fr

[coarse nest]

If you want to run Smf in your weekly 10 key you do you

[restive peak]

^

[eternal sundial]

Just not week 1 pls

[restive peak]

Be aware that some people will kick you when they realize

[eternal sundial]

Or rather not in my 10

[coarse nest]

But actively gimping high pug key is major L

[restive peak]

Or blacklist you

[eternal sundial]

Fuck off smf

[rigid stirrup]

To me yeah. Also again depends on the content you're doing. If you're not doing high end content where being as optimal as possible matters then it doesn't matter which you play

[coarse nest]

Real

[restive peak]

And I don't blame them, it's a video game we play in our free time and if you're actively wasting my time, I'll ensure you never do it again

And so will MANY others

That's why we have guides/discords etc

[eternal sundial]

Especially in shit weeklies doin big st helps a ton

[covert blaze]

🧎‍♂️

[orchid dagger]

It's just funny to see people go "Thane ok, SMF bad"

The mental disconnect is amazing

[hard widget]

Anyone noticing stutters when playing RA and pressing Rampage?

[fading bane]

nope

[hard widget]

Been noticing it a few days

[restive peak]

Thane isn't ok

[hard widget]

Only happens in RA

[restive peak]

If you're playing competitively

[south kayak]

No

[restive peak]

But AT LEAST Thane wins on long-lasting MT

SMF literally never wins, ever

[ivory furnace]

@hard widget just you you goof

[hard widget]

Unluku

[rigid stirrup]

The only thing that came from SMF is a small community that thinks it will one day be viable

[restive peak]

SMF becomes viable if they release a 1h leggo or cantrip, and you somehow get 2 of them

That's about it

And as I said earlier, SMF being viable would be an indirect nerf to us

[fading bane]

i remember once in DF it was better to use daggers with SMF than swords

[covert blaze]

yeah someone posted about it on the weakauras channel

[restive peak]

As 2 2hers is ALWAYS more stam

[fading bane]

even tho they had agi

[winter shoal]

Someone posted a forum thread about performance issues with RA, I'm on my phone at work so can't find it

[coarse nest]

Smf winning sounds so bad imagine fighting for 1H weapons

[fading bane]

you kinda fight no one tho

fdk and tanks

[hard widget]

Hmm, maybe its performance related due to rampage making your BT and RB change to BB and CB?

Idk

[restive peak]

You also have NO way to target 1hers btw

[fading bane]

swap to fury lootspec

[restive peak]

You'd be forced to pray the 1her and not the 2her drop, at least right now we can spec arms

....that's targetting 1+2hers

Can't go prot cuz you'd get shields and tank trinks

SMF is a filler button left in so people cry less, that's it; it's designed against on purpose

[fading bane]

show me where SMF touched you

[copper patio]

it didn't as it was too WEAK

[covert void]

the weakaura addon update today was meant to fix it.

[covert blaze]

crazy that it's a talent and not a passive

so annoying

dead space like DoI

[restive peak]

I think the obsession with SMF is 1 of the dumbest, legitimately most braindead things to care about ever

[covert void]

plenty had the issue the last few weeks, lots of testing went into it.

[fading bane]

The only ppl that care about it are ppl that are playing casually, or semi-hardcore

[restive peak]

You want to use 1hers why? Because you decided to attach your horse to it and make it a personality trait; there's no practical reason

It's not about wep sizes, there are plenty of 2hers smaller than plenty of 1hers

It's not about anything else.

It's just reddit-dweller "IM DIGGING MY HEELS IN AND THIS IS WHO I AM" behaviour

[warm crag]

this is a lie

[eternal sundial]

I NEED POWERFUL ENRAGE DEAD

THIS IS MY HORSE

🏇

[restive peak]

TELL ME SPONGER

[warm crag]

u can buy 1hs off of the ah you noob

[restive peak]

LMFAO

[warm crag]

linc btfo'd

[coarse moon]

Are we using our omens to craft our weapons on reset or are we holding?

[buoyant salmon]

i actually like 1h more than 2h

[warm crag]

concedes yellow role immediately

[buoyant salmon]

but like

[covert blaze]

L

[buoyant salmon]

not enough to even consider caring

[plush flower]

Hold

[south kayak]

imagine being a yellow and not knowing such vital information

[fading bane]

i couldnt care less about SMF, but it doesnt affect me that lil tim wants to play with some smol swords

[restive peak]

Subjective feelings have zero place in mathematic, balance based events.

[south kayak]

based

[coarse moon]

I assume we hold for a Gilded crest spark or something?

[restive peak]

They don't, I know tiktok teaches people your feelings matter more than facts now, but they really don't.

[south kayak]

I wonder if we're getting a raid quest that awards hc crest

[plush flower]

Hold in case of buffs/nerfs

[south kayak]

please

[restive peak]

Lil tim can play with them, he's just gimping himself and his team, and any other player can choose to exclude lil tim anytime they'd like

And they're justified in doing so

[coarse moon]

True, thanks

[plush flower]

Lil Tim fast af with smf

[restive peak]

Lil tim is gonna get to the bottom of the meters fast AF, that's true

https://tenor.com/view/fast-running-gif-27100967

[plush flower]

Lmao

[coarse nest]

Using 4 Algari gems for speed instead of .6% Crit

[restive peak]

Fckin hugeeee bud

Can't die to a mechanic if the mechanic can't catch me

[frozen lake]

Delete smf

Let us transmog 1h

Case closed

[royal patio]

they do though, why else would 10 be scared of 7?

[restive peak]

Fuckitman just unlock all transmog for all things, so all these arguments can die FR

[sick jungle]

based

[frozen lake]

I can't believe this nonsense is actually still fucking up our talent tree

[restive peak]

I heard the rumours that 7 8 9 bro

[sick jungle]

i actually just want to fight with 2 giant leeks

is that so much to ask for

[covert blaze]

caring about it is subjective, not being better or worse numerically

[restive peak]

Use shovels

[wispy ledge]

Which specc will overperform in Raid or M+ ?

[restive peak]

Except they're always crying about how it should be equal or people should want them as much

Noone should be crying about SMF being available because it...is...available. So that arguement doesn't even make sense here.

[buoyant salmon]

barring changes, slayer fury will be a bit better than arms bc their way of getting a lot of aoe is tax than arms

[fading bane]

SMF should just always be worse

thats true

[covert blaze]

i dont understand why it has to have a gameplay impact

[restive peak]

Like I said, SMF ever being stronger is an indirect nerf.

[covert blaze]

just make it so you can transmog 1 handers

[orchid dagger]

It's about as available as Thane lmao

[sick jungle]

i think they should let us dual wield 2 shields

[covert blaze]

i bet 90% of the smf enjoyers like it because of mog reasons

[restive peak]

Thane is very useful for sustained AOE

[sterile dagger]

TRUE KEKW

[regal vector]

ah the daily SMF cope discourse

[covert void]

this is massively needed. considering some one handers are easily big enough to look like two handers lol

[restive peak]

Archi posted this and I agree

[sterile dagger]

POGGERS

[nimble ermine]

dark souls 3 door build

[sterile dagger]

best tanks wear 2 shields

[nimble ermine]

lets fucking go

[sterile dagger]

not like those weak tanks who use 2handers KEKW

[orchid dagger]

And SMF is better than TG for speedrunning old content

[covert blaze]

https://youtu.be/55ANN_2qU0Q

[buoyant salmon]

speedrunning old content is fake content

[sick jungle]

which expansion was it where prot warrior was way fucking OP

[buoyant salmon]

if you dont have a proper speed set coping about smf making you faster isnt real

[fading bane]

i miss aggramars stride

[restive peak]

I did not play dark souls bois

[sick jungle]

in pvp especially

[fading bane]

it was so good in old content

[covert blaze]

bfa

[restive peak]

Cannot give input

[covert blaze]

noob

you're disowned

[buoyant salmon]

theyve had a few times where they just pop all their cds and oneshot with shield slam

they were at its peak in comparison to other tanks in bfa season 4

[restive peak]

I don't play anything but WoW man 😛

I don't have time for anything else, haven't played a single player game since like....2005

[sick jungle]

i never played bfa but was prot warr really that good

pve wise

[buoyant salmon]

i was very bad in bfa so this is retrospective, but yes

[fading bane]

prot war was insane s2 bfa

[heavy ether]

[buoyant salmon]

it did by far the most damage of any tank and anger management was a lot better than it is now

[fading bane]

so good that i pushed as prot lmao

and that takes a lot

[sick jungle]

damn

[covert blaze]

prot was basically another dps

[sick jungle]

i heard prot rn is pretty damn good

probably going to pick it up just to farm low keys with friends

[lost saffron]

Show your char everything must be 100% optimal

[restive peak]

I mean....mine...kinda are rn

[buoyant salmon]

it has been really good and fun since sl s4

[restive peak]

Weird flex

[lost saffron]

Show then

[restive granite]

since the warrior discord has to be the place with most beefcakes, can anyone recommend a strong preworkout to try out?

[buoyant salmon]

amphetamine

[lost saffron]

You must have 24 renown ready as well

[restive peak]

I'll tell you what my friend, my name matches 1 of my 3 warrs, and that 1 is probably my most optimal, so get it

[fading bane]

Heroine

[pale lava]

none, they all suck

[gaunt moat]

Nutrimuscle pure coffee pills

[restive peak]

Pre workout is garbage

[pale lava]

and that's a fact

[gaunt moat]

🦧

[restive peak]

Drink a black coffee or an energy drink and go to town

[restive granite]

ik

[pale lava]

but you can gaslight yourself into thinking that preworkout is useful

if that's what you want

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[lost saffron]

Flaming others for wanting something that's not optimal

[restive granite]

but they do the psychological stuff on me that wants to workout because i already drank the nasty shit

[sick jungle]

but but but, the preworkout helps with the pump

[gaunt moat]

The only thing it'll do is stop you from sleeping like a normal human being!

[restive peak]

"Flaming", honesty is flaming now

This is the attitude I meant, keep going, prove my point friend

[buoyant salmon]

its not flaming ppl who want to do something inferior, its informing ppl its strictly worse at literally everything relevant and you probably shouldnt do it

[restive peak]

Yes I will not go into my top 25 push as SMF thane and troll my team, because I'm not an omega dickhead, quick, diss me for it

[gaunt moat]

Use your money for collagen instead of preworkout!

[oblique trail]

@lost saffron hosen check

[restive peak]

Choco has brain, Choco comprehend, good Choco

[buoyant salmon]

if you really want to go ahead, but you forfeit any right to complain about the strength of your class

[restive peak]

^

^^^^^

[buoyant salmon]

:3

[restive granite]

omg the SMF still going on xD

[pale lava]

have pity on your wallet and just drink coffee if you really need to

[restive peak]

Choco is COOKIN

[dense elbow]

What did Linc do this time?

[fading bane]

no one ever mentioned that tho, they just want to do casual content

[restive peak]

https://tenor.com/view/chef-gif-12302852456566453263

[lost saffron]

There is a difference between informing and not being able to comprehend it

[restive peak]

Why would anyone care then? What

[sick jungle]

i think it's totally fair to say that if you want to push keys/raid you shouldn't be going the suboptimal route

[restive peak]

You guys randomly get pissy about the damage decrease, then when someone tells you the facts, you then go "WE JUST WANNA HAVE FUN BRO WE DONT CARE"

[gaunt moat]

First time i see a dofus reference here

[restive peak]

Then why ask in the first place

[dense elbow]

Oh, I get it - you are hammering on some poor casual guy who said 'I wanna play my way'

got it

[lost saffron]

Do you have 24 renown banked

I hope you do

Because else why would you even care,

[fading bane]

pushing dont exclusively mean rnak 1, some ppl spend the entire season pushing to +10s lol

[restive peak]

I wouldn't even say I hammered, I merely said groups will likely avoid them if they're pushing

[buoyant salmon]

well i personally play the game to be competitive, it doesnt make very much sense that ppl actively choose to be worse

[fading bane]

and whats holding them back is not 5% dmg

[buoyant salmon]

but i also dont give a fuck

[restive granite]

lmao

wtf

[devout totem]

only the french player are getting the refenrence, that not a lot of ppl in this discord xdd

[dense elbow]

Oh, and choco pile-on, oh my

tsk tsk tsssk

[buoyant salmon]

stop being weird

[covert blaze]

only real take about this argument

[buoyant salmon]

renown doesnt matter

at all

[restive peak]

This argument is always so funny to me; take a raid team that would get kinda close to CE

[covert blaze]

dont think he can honestly

[gaunt moat]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-hand-shake-arms-gif-3468629

[restive peak]

And then have all 20 drop 5% of their damage/healing/tankiness

[buoyant salmon]

completely fake hamster wheel gameplay rep

[restive peak]

Let me know if they get CE

And tell me how 5% doesn't matter

[sick jungle]

ya it's not them going SMF, but they'll most likely just get flamed by people less nice than the rest of us in this discord 😂

they should at least be ready for it

[restive peak]

This isn't a solo game, it is a group game, where %s matter when coupled together

[lost saffron]

Wdym if he states he's doing everything optimally

Then that's what he should do

[past pivot]

Renown matters in that 3 pieces of easy and cheap gear to get this week. Great for alts too

[fading bane]

If they dont get CE, the 5% decrease is the least of their worries

[buoyant salmon]

it doesnt matter though

[dense elbow]

But, he doesnt go for CE, you are building up a strawman on his case.

He only wanted to play SMF and as such should allowed to do as he pleases, without mean comments

[buoyant salmon]

also a very strange argument

[restive peak]

I can assure you my main is in the top end gear you're going to get for this point Schmo, and you would know if you'd taken 5 secs to look, but for some reason you think we're entitled to go do it for you and link it

[sick jungle]

fair

[restive peak]

I can also assure you noone has 24 renown except those who abused the exploit early, and that won't matter because heroic is a joke to those of us who bothered

[lost saffron]

Yes it does, you don't say you can't comprehend something others do while doing the same thing on a different scale

[gaunt moat]

I've no idea what's going on but let's cool down a bit

[restive peak]

Yeah you missed everything

[warm crag]

no one?

linc once again about to be btfo'd

[lost saffron]

I didn't say have 24 renown, I said have it ready

[buoyant salmon]

why would renown matter at all

[restive peak]

And now you're reacting to 50 messages in

[restive peak]

Noone who didn't abuse the exploit 😛

[fading bane]

already at 30 ez

[buoyant salmon]

outside of doing heroic very, VERY slightly faster

[dense elbow]

no way

[warm crag]

i didn't and im renown 6

get owned

[restive peak]

Does he know renown won't matter by the end of next week? 😛

[buoyant salmon]

as if i dont wipe my fucking taint across heroic bosses on the daily

[lost saffron]

Crafting a hc item doesn't matter?

What

[gaunt moat]

D2 the goat always ahead

[covert blaze]

it doesn't he's just strawmanning

[plush flower]

Renown makes you better at the game bro

[fading bane]

frfr on god on god 💯

[lavish beacon]

Guys, you’re texting faster than I can read

[dense elbow]

Schmofel is right, nothing matters, btw

[restive peak]

Actually, no, by the time you have your next spark we'll be past heroic ilvl completely and can just send crests on it Schmo, but please, keep being wrong, it's super funny for me and I'm pretty sure Choco too

[buoyant salmon]

you can still do that though lol

im just passing the time while my mommy is at the dentist

[restive peak]

We love dentists

We love mommys

[dense elbow]

I hope it will be alright :)

[covert blaze]

[restive peak]

Tooth health is overall health friends

[covert blaze]

@oblique trail i love revy

[oblique trail]

owo

told you it had good characters

[dense elbow]

Dont give up - I got your back, push your convo back in to prove your point!

[lost saffron]

Must be useless if everyone who's going for top 10 is doing it

But he isn't because he's better than that

[dense elbow]

[restive peak]

Bro I just got a RAKE transmog

[buoyant salmon]

i dont think u understand how unbelievably degenerate top 5 guilds are

[dense elbow]

You are rake, you and your opinions on SMF

:(

[restive peak]

If you think the liquid/echo/method bois are spending a single minute renown farming this upcoming week, you're as ignorant as you seem

[buoyant salmon]

they do shit they know will almost certainly not matter but if it has the slightest chance at being VERY SLIGHTLY useful

all 10+ characters, its done

[dense elbow]

Ofc they dont, they got ppl to do it for em

[lost saffron]

They don't have to because they're done

Check revved warrior

[dense elbow]

Hear hear!

[restive peak]

They're really not, Firedup has 14 across his renowns and 18 on hallowfall

Guess Firedup is shit and doesn't care about the race

LOL

[buoyant salmon]

yes fired up is washed up

unlucky

[restive peak]

Right

Someone let Liquid know, race is over

[hasty path]

Imwashedup

[covert blaze]

this is such a braindead convo

[restive peak]

Zaelia must've gotten to him

[devout totem]

ikr

[buoyant salmon]

imchocodup coming in

[warm crag]

cant find revved ..

[covert blaze]

you can argue for trying to optimize without being rwf levels of degenerate

[dense elbow]

You simply dont understand the nuances of the arguments, they simply are beyond your minds reach.

[lost saffron]

Yes you can if you can comprehend others not doing ir

[restive peak]

Funky is just choosing violence today

Hahaha

[delicate yacht]

This is too much for a Monday morning

[forest grove]

I don't understand what's being talked about at all

[lost saffron]

Exactly what I've said

[dense elbow]

Got like 5 min before my food is ready

[restive peak]

Didn't abuse a bug for a likely .3% optimization is equal to running SMF thane and losing 30% dmg, GOT IT

[covert blaze]

him not comprehending is just your opinion

[restive peak]

You sure won this one Schmo!

Name is fitting, though.

[covert blaze]

just like not liking optimizing or not is personal preference

[buoyant salmon]

ok bye

[lost saffron]

He literally said it?

[covert blaze]

/r/skyhold

[warm crag]

toph wins again

[lost saffron]

It's not my opinion if he said it

[dense elbow]

Schmo got Zhai on the run!

[fading bane]

Skyhold is the same as always

[covert blaze]

youre such a redditor bro

i cba with you

[lost saffron]

Alle sauer

[sick jungle]

i was here for the start of the convo and i somehow got lost

[restive peak]

You know when children argue about why they ARE a dinosaur, and you just kinda nod and appease them, but you don't really comprehend because it's so stupid? That's this.

[gaunt moat]

I wish i could see toxic silmarilen again some days

[dense elbow]

Before I go and eat, anyone mind giving me a 3 point TLDR of what the heck you on about in this discussion?

[lost saffron]

Nothing

It's completely pointless

[fading bane]

toxicity goes hard

[dense elbow]

Oh, so same as you then

[restive peak]

Told you he was a redditor 😛

[sick jungle]

SMF bad, let me play SMF without bullying me, SMF bad and if you play SMF ur bad

i think

[dense elbow]

That is the classic one

[lost saffron]

I don't understand how people can even think about playing smf

[restive peak]

Missing context > play SMF all you want, don't expect others to appease and carry your choice of gimping yourself in relevant content

[lost saffron]

It's not optimal

[restive peak]

Noone cares if you play SMF for your questing, solo delve, BG PVP{

[dense elbow]

Or HC raids, or just casual Mythic raiding :v

[sick jungle]

I for one am not excited to do the 4 T8 delves

[lost saffron]

Anyone in your guild playing a suboptimal specc is incomprehensible as well

[gaunt moat]

At least it's not Thorgast!

[covert blaze]

lmao

[forest grove]

I want them to add a really good 1 hand legendary that trolls us into using smf for a season I think that'd be funny

[lost saffron]

How dare anyone playing survival hunter when it's not meta

[dense elbow]

I want them to release a shield, so good, that we replace our 2h offhand with it

[lost saffron]

I don't understand why people would do it

[sick jungle]

well, if I was trying to complete the mythic raid I for one would not be using smf

[restive peak]

Yes, anyone raiding mythic at a moderate level who chooses to gimp their damage and force the other 19 to carry them is an absolute dickhead

[forest grove]

Equally funny

[sick jungle]

i need the 5%

[restive peak]

Just like if I'm on a hockey team, and 1 of my guys decides he doesn't want to use a stick and expects us to win, he is a dickhead

[lost saffron]

Let me check your guild really quick

[sick jungle]

same energy as showing up to raid night and not flasking

[fading bane]

that is a dogshit analogy

[gaunt moat]

Bahahahaha

[restive peak]

But redditors don't have any sense of team mentality because they're incels who aren't ever in a team environment

[frail meadow]

anyone notice that resting experience doesn't seem to be working on characters parked in dornagal?

[restive peak]

Beer league hockey players will get mad at you for showing up without a stick, big dog

[hearty moth]

WoW is filled with NPCs, I'm just living in it

[lost saffron]

Lets see

[sick jungle]

i am an npc

[lost saffron]

Lincc playing fury on fyrakk firstkill instead of arms when it was better

[hearty moth]

me too lol

[lost saffron]

gimping his guild

with lower boss damage

forcing them to carry him

[plush ice]

woah, i was semi watching this w/ some amusment, but what does reddit have to do w/ anything lol

[restive peak]

Does this guy really think arms was better when fyrakk was first killed?

[fading bane]

it was

[frail meadow]

I have like five alts that I parked there a week ago, and rested xp hasn't increased on any of them, sitting at 1%

[restive peak]

Jesus, imagine looking at S4 as content

LOL

[junior gale]

[lost saffron]

When you killed it

it was better

[forest grove]

arms was not better in s3

[lost saffron]

dec 6th

[restive peak]

When I killed fyrakk in S3 as US50th, arms was not better

[lost saffron]

It was for boss damage

[restive peak]

But please, keep being wrong over and over

[covert blaze]

high school debate club levels of cringe arguments

[lost saffron]

it just didnt padd on the adds

[fading bane]

it was 100% more boss dmg

[junior gale]

S3 you were not playing arms on Fyrakk prog lmao

[sick jungle]

i for one, enjoy reddit

[plush ice]

ngl, i'm still confused what reddit has to do with that hehe

[lost saffron]

You were later in the patch

[fading bane]

i didnt swap cus i played all of prog as fury

[lost saffron]

not in the beginning

[hasty path]

Hehe

[restive peak]

Fuck eh, Revvez is a troll dude.

[fading bane]

and our boss dmg wasnt an issue

[lost saffron]

BRO

[restive peak]

Someone let Revvez know

[lost saffron]

you didnt kill it when revvez kileld it

you killed it like when

[restive peak]

His world 1st wasn't relevant

[lost saffron]

3 months later?

xD

[restive peak]

I'll tell you what friend, you go find the 1st 50 fyrakk logs

Tell me how many arms warriors you find

🙂

I'll wait

[lost saffron]

first 50

fyrakk logs

[sick jungle]

whats a log

[restive peak]

No no

[lost saffron]

comparing that to

[restive peak]

I said 1st 50 kills

[lost saffron]

when you killed it

[compact bluff]

You played Arms for boss damage

[restive peak]

I was US50th

[lost saffron]

Yes

US 50th

is world what?

[compact bluff]

Same

[lost saffron]

500?

[fading bane]

US rank xdd

[restive peak]

And no, warriors job wasn't boss damage, it was add damage and P3 damage

[compact bluff]

Played Arms for boss dam

[lost saffron]

not it was not

[runic violet]

arms was fun in s3 s4

[restive peak]

Sure

[lost saffron]

Yeh

p3 damage

where arms

does like

[forest grove]

Weren't people dooming that the whole class in general was only around for bshout at the time anyways

[lost saffron]

25% more

than fury?

[restive peak]

25%?!?! NO WAY MAN, LINK ME THE LOG FROM S3 TOP 50

Oh wait

[sick jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/jason-momoa-chair-interested-gif-9751403

[compact bluff]

Arms got buffed and it was the move for fyrak

[restive peak]

You're a fuckin moron, I forgot

[dense elbow]

Hoy hoy

[warped pebble]

How come wowhead doesnt take onslaught for single target?

[dense elbow]

roll it back

[runic violet]

I was going to play arms in tww as well.. then it feels like the stats aren't there to be fluidic enough.

[dense elbow]

Ignorant isnt a reason to be rude :(

[runic violet]

I think arms might be better when geared up.

[covert blaze]

recent findings these last couple of days

[sick jungle]

serious question about bshout

[restive peak]

If your argument to attack a person is based on ignorance, you get rude back.

[sick jungle]

why tf does it have a CD

[dense elbow]

Man, snapshot convos are the best Scho is right, you are wrong - aight back in a bit

[forest grove]

Idk

[fading bane]

based

[restive peak]

Man it's gonna fuckin be so sad when we tell Revvez and Crit and Gajeel and myself and others that we int'd by being fury on prog on fyrakk S3, if only we had Schmo back then

[compact bluff]

Ppl who played fury after the arms buffs just wanted to pad in p2

[patent tundra]

is this talent any good if we are doing only AOE

[restive peak]

Nah you still want sidearm Foosh

[forest grove]

I still don't know what's actually being argued about

[lost saffron]

I killed fyrakk earlier than all of them except for revvez

[restive peak]

Schmo is a redditor moving goalposts, and I'm memeing on him but he thinks we're actually debating

[forest grove]

Was it smf? Fury vs arms? Mythic? Thane??

[lost saffron]

🤷‍♂️

[restive peak]

Sure ya did big guy, sure ya did

[lost saffron]

Wdym

[restive peak]

[lost saffron]

look at my logs

its right there

xD

[forest grove]

Literally what is the original topic

[rough tulip]

mage is harder to play than warrior, warrior is easy class just faceroll buttons no skill or thoughts

[fading bane]

Toph is in Northern Sky bro

[sick jungle]

SMF bad > SMF = inting > schmo calls out linc for inting on his fyrakk kill by being fury > this is where we are now

[restive peak]

I don't really care, you can be a good player and still a dumbass arguing stupidity

[buoyant salmon]

i never killed fyrakk

god bless

[lost saffron]

Exactly

[buoyant salmon]

lets go sark for sark though bud

[restive peak]

If he truly believes arms was better for fyrakk prog and he out-math'd Revvez/Liquid etc

[covert blaze]

@fading bane are you raiding this tier? havent seen you in a while

[restive peak]

He's an idiot

[fading bane]

ye

[sick jungle]

i came back to wow in S4

[fading bane]

i took break form s4

[lost saffron]

When did I say that?

I said it was better late in the season

not on early prog

[compact bluff]

Arms was better for fyrak after it got buffed.

[rough tulip]

mage has way more utility than warrior

[restive peak]

It was not better for prog

[lost saffron]

There is a huge difference between killing it first few weeks

and later into the season

[dense elbow]

So, tldr, Scho brought data proof - and Lincc is now denying and trying wave away it?

[restive peak]

It was better for quicker time rekills once adds fell over

[hasty path]

Let me get this straight—you're saying spamming Frostbolt from a safe distance is harder than getting in there, managing rage, and juggling cooldowns to maximize damage while dodging fire and eating cleaves? Do you even know what it’s like to keep up with those twitchy mages and rogues who are just waiting to beat you on the meters while you're over here managing your rotation and watching your positioning like your life depends on it?

Mages just pop off with their instant-cast spells and blink away from danger, while we have to charge in and hope the boss doesn’t look our way when we’re mid-Rampage. You think standing still and casting is harder than keeping your uptime while dancing around mechanics? And let's not even get into when the boss moves, and I have to Heroic Leap just to stay relevant.

Give me a break. Mage might have a higher skill cap on a perfect meter, but Warrior DPS is where the real work happens. You wanna be a glass cannon hiding behind a shield? Fine. I’ll be out here with my two giant weapons, face-tanking the world while keeping my damage rolling.

[restive peak]

He didn't bring any data proof, actually.

[fading bane]

i rembmer tmy linking me his bos sdmg

when we were progging

[lost saffron]

All I said was

[compact bluff]

By the time US50th killed it, arm was better.

[fading bane]

it was so much more

as arms

[lost saffron]

Arms is better for boss damage

[eager thorn]

Smf isnt even bad guys

[restive peak]

He's arguing that on reclears far later when killtime was 1-1.5m faster, and adds were no longer relevant, that arms made sense

[forest grove]

who is just casually using smf in real content unless they were dumb and got 1hs as their highest Ivl weapon at that moment. When does that actually happen?

[lusty jungle]

I hope that was a copy pasta

[sick jungle]

bro I'm ngl, I made a mage alt and have been trying out arcane

[restive peak]

Except tons of groups depended on fury to kill the adds during prog, because we had the best tradeoff of adds to ST

[dense elbow]

He was arguing from top 50, no?

[burnt kelp]

wizards coming here to try and act like they are so skilled and warriors are dumb

[dense elbow]

And he is top 50

[burnt kelp]

when the truth is warrior is dumb

and so is wizard

ban all wizard players

[dense elbow]

as he had linked his logs of his top 50 kill

[lost saffron]

I was saying later into progg

[sick jungle]

I must suck so much at playing caster because I find that shit way harder than melee

[coarse nest]

I got to kill fryak as arms on reclear but was required to play fury for prog kill because of adds

[forest grove]

It feels like an argument about people that don't exist

[covert blaze]

the less you stir the pot the sooner we can get past this dogshit convo

[lost saffron]

I never said fury was better early

[fading bane]

we killed fyrakk way too late

like wr 80

and arms was 100% a good choice for boss dmg

[rough tulip]

lmao this is beast

[dense elbow]

Hoy, I am stirring my lamb atm, so it fits neatly

[restive peak]

Good chocie for boss damage, sure; the best choice for add killing when adds were still a focal point? Absolutely not

[lost saffron]

You are denying it like fury was all around better for progress

which is just not true

flat out

[lusty jungle]

Soup needs more onion

[gaunt moat]

ngl it feels like an infinite loop convo rn

[lost saffron]

if you have 2 guildies who are good on demonhunter

there is no way you need the add damage

[covert blaze]

peak

[lost saffron]

it completely depends on your comp

[compact bluff]

By the time i got there (us 50) i played arms cause p2 add damage didn’t matter.

[lost saffron]

and guildies

[restive peak]

We didn't have that, and that's another goalpost move

[buoyant salmon]

on this topic, arms was better in abberus

100p

[fading bane]

most guilds had few issues with add dmg

[compact bluff]

No one is arguing that fury wasnt the play for HOF guilds

[restive peak]

So now, after I brought up comp 3x, you bring it up 20 posts later

[sick jungle]

arms is just better in general

[restive peak]

Yes, he is Abhu

[sick jungle]

get at me

[restive peak]

LOL

[lost saffron]

Yeh most guilds have add damage issue late into the content

[dense elbow]

Well, you throw mud at the wall till something sticks

that is the 101 strat

[lost saffron]

xDD

[late horizon]

Helkili makes me an allstar.

[fading bane]

they nerfed adds at one point i think

[lost saffron]

World 500 guilds who get to fyrakk 3 months into the tier

[fading bane]

so the add dmg became very little relevant

[restive peak]

50th was not late into the content, and if adds just fell over on prog at 50th, the fight would've died 200 pulls earlier. What a stupid argument to even attempt.

[fading bane]

we always killed the adds

even with a warrior dead

[lost saffron]

US 50th

is very different

from world 50

what is us 50th in world rank?

can you tell me

[buoyant salmon]

love us rankings

[lost saffron]

please

[compact bluff]

My guild has no issues without fury warrior in p2

[buoyant salmon]

like 8th probably

[compact bluff]

Around that time, so i went arms and we killed

[buoyant salmon]

wait

other way around

[dense elbow]

Why are you talking about US top 50? '-'

[buoyant salmon]

im cooked

[lost saffron]

You forgot 2 zeros

xD

[compact bluff]

Granted that was 8 weeks into the tier or whatever

[covert blaze]

L

[restive peak]

Great, lots of guilds built their comp to rely on fury for it, and that was why playing fury was NOT gimping your team

[buoyant salmon]

i meant world 50th is like us 8th

[restive peak]

If my guild has 6 people on adds and I refused to play arms, that would be different

[lost saffron]

Let me check if your guild did

[fading bane]

50 us is like 200 world

[sick jungle]

pretty sure US is the world buddy boy

[restive peak]

You gonna call Sky and ask about our strat design?

[buoyant salmon]

god bless

[dense elbow]

Please record it

[sick jungle]

🇺🇸

[covert blaze]

NA is dogshit at videogames ngl

[lost saffron]

nah all you need to do is look at the first kill log

[hasty path]

BASED BASED BASED FUCK ARGENTINA IN PARTICULAR

[compact bluff]

I’m js its crazy to say playing arms was throwing the raid

[lost saffron]

if there is more than 1 warlock and 1 demonhunter

you dont need the add dmg

unless they are gimping

[sterile dagger]

holy shit this chat is SO TOXIC rn

[sick jungle]

yeah p much

[dense elbow]

Nah, we all in on it, 0 toxic

[sterile dagger]

pepegas who saying arms cool - go home #arms

[dense elbow]

Bushac inc, real toxikk coming

[hasty path]

SA talking (and not even Brazil)

[eager thorn]

Arms is worse spec why have 1 sword when u can have 2 lol

[rough tulip]

arms way more chill than fury

[lost saffron]

Oh god

you are raiding with equinox

my condolences

[restive peak]

Arms is super chill

[lost saffron]

i will stop

[hasty path]

You should see prot it’s the most based channel

[lost saffron]

sorry I ever said anything

[buoyant salmon]

LMFAOOOOO

god fucking bless

[orchid dagger]

No u

[covert blaze]

show me where I said SA is good

[sterile dagger]

fury have WAY more defences and self-sustain heal

[restive peak]

Lmao gonna insult someone else now

[sterile dagger]

which Arms lucks

[dense elbow]

[restive peak]

Such a redditor man

[rough tulip]

arms has way more dopamine

[dense elbow]

Well, he cant win against you. So he try to win you over

[sick jungle]

yeah but arms has bigger numbers

[hasty path]

Ok I know what fair I guess we can be United in dogshit

[dense elbow]

it is the way

[rough tulip]

your eyes cant keep track of your fury hit splats

[buoyant salmon]

arms has more defensives wdym

[sterile dagger]

yeah sure bud...

[buoyant salmon]

they have ignore pain, fury cant match

[rough tulip]

my eyes will see my 3.5m execute and be so happy

[runic violet]

ignore pain XD

[lost saffron]

You were fury for burning colossus damage, right?

[buoyant salmon]

its just factually true

[sterile dagger]

its not

[covert blaze]

[restive peak]

Arms takes way less healing then fury because they're dead

[lost saffron]

Because on all the other adds you were very far down

[restive peak]

🙂

[sterile dagger]

FACT

[buoyant salmon]

fury is tankier than arms but arms has more defensive buttons

[sick jungle]

based

[dense elbow]

Would be funny if it wasnt true

[orchid dagger]

more like cope with the pain of not having a rotational heal

[sterile dagger]

bigger numbers AS ARMS MEANS = your healer should heal ONLY YOU

[buoyant salmon]

also caring about fury or arms being tankier does not matter at all

[sterile dagger]

while playing fury - you take care yourself all the time

while doing similar damage

[cedar garden]

holy crap it's busy in here! did we get buffed? whats going on?

[buoyant salmon]

i take care of your mom all the time

[restive peak]

Yes, my CDs were assigned to the colossi so I'd have them at P3 start on prog. My shit was assigned, as was everyones, and it made no sense to swap everything for a possible 3% more damage on boss when boss damage wasn't a problem.

[runic violet]

fury heals more / arms do more mitigation

[eager thorn]

Arguing get some popcorn

[covert blaze]

lack of content has people fried

[buoyant salmon]

fury copers are the goats

[cedar garden]

nice nice, topic?

[restive peak]

And you're loving your little redditor incel attitude so you're gonna try to be snarky now about how it's probably Equinox' fault or something, but deep down you know it makes complete sense.

[lost saffron]

Bringing fury purely for burning is a fair point

[sterile dagger]

some arms-andies came here and arguin for shit

[runic violet]

We are in a rehab. It's the M+ / raid withdrawal we are in

[sick jungle]

redditors out here catching strays

[eager thorn]

No clue tbh

[sterile dagger]

got home #arms

[gaunt moat]

bro the squabble is never over or what

[orchid dagger]

Whatever you want, just start slinging

[sick jungle]

who the hell is equinox

[coarse nest]

[dense elbow]

TLDR; Linc said 'no u', Schmo said 'reeeee, logs!' then Schmo lost the crowd, and started operation: "you agree with me, Lincc?"

[buoyant salmon]

youre just saying factually incorrect statements

[sick jungle]

i know what equifax is

[olive wraith]

As if fury needed another spec to argue about

[sterile dagger]

go home #arms

[dense elbow]

True, Choco back to arms

boo boo

[olive wraith]

Back in my day we argued which DF set to vote for

[dense elbow]

NO

GOD NO

[sick jungle]

back when I was arms, hanging out in the arms channel, shit was chill

[gaunt moat]

hell no

[dense elbow]

That lasted months

[sick jungle]

fury is where it's at eh

[restive peak]

And then we all fucked it by letting S2 win RIP DF

[orchid dagger]

And the Euros voted Bloodthirst buffer

[sterile dagger]

true

[orchid dagger]

Thank EU players for that

[coarse nest]

The fury chatter’s dogging arms probably can’t play it because it’s to complicated for them

[olive wraith]

Tbf both sets buffed bt

[covert blaze]

*bots

[rough tulip]

arms definitely more complicated than fury lol

[orchid dagger]

Same shit

[gaunt moat]

Let me wait half a year each gcd so i can fall asleep playing

[dense elbow]

Hoy, to be fair, I only did like 50 votes myself - for s1, but hey

[restive peak]

For the record I wish I could play in EU man

[orchid dagger]

Pop CDs > die is an easy rotation, wdym

[dense elbow]

🫂

[runic violet]

Arms is harder to play but fury feels harder to master.

[buoyant salmon]

two of the easiest specs in the game

[fading bane]

neither is hard

[coarse nest]

Tell me you don’t play arms without telling me

[river reef]

[gaunt moat]

let us fight !

[cedar garden]

lmao, ok ok so i read something about top 50. Nothing wrong with that. Except that one time at the bar, when I was telling this chick I was top 50. The bar tender asked me to leave

[gaunt moat]

over nothing

[rough tulip]

every wow dps spec is easy

[autumn mica]

Fury is the only way 😎

[sterile dagger]

true

[dense elbow]

Arms is easy, Fury is easy, ya'll easy

[restive peak]

Almost every WoW spec is easy lol

[coarse nest]

Good raiders play both depending on what their raid comp requires on a fight to fight bases

This isn’t complicated

[restive peak]

^

[autumn mica]

Fury gives more dopamine per second tbh, give or take

[runic violet]

Yea,,, planning to swap between spec this season.

[rough tulip]

bros never hit a big execute crit

[hollow chasm]

flying circles in dornogal gives me more dopamine than playing either of them

[runic violet]

practicing both right now

[pale lava]

I need the sauce on equinox, what did he do ?

[restive peak]

This is a very fair point

[gaunt moat]

gotta add the constant moving so you feel like you press 1 billion apm per sec

🙏

[restive peak]

Fury ADHD 🤝

[buoyant salmon]

arms will forever be harder than arms so long as parry is more punishing

but like

[sick jungle]

bro when I tried arcane for the first time the ther day the wowhead page hurt my head

[lost saffron]

Nothing, I just fire shots in every direction

[gaunt moat]

apm per sec yes

[buoyant salmon]

both are super easy so who cares

[lost saffron]

pew pew

[covert blaze]

arms > arms

[restive peak]

Ye some of the guide writers make shit sound way harder than it is

[coarse nest]

Overwhelming Rage DIE

[buoyant salmon]

lol

[coarse nest]

[buoyant salmon]

im cooked

[restive peak]

But once you practice any spec you're good

[sick jungle]

yeah once I played it it made sense

[hollow chasm]

difficulty gatekeeping is weird tho. both specs are braindead ez

[covert blaze]

arms is harder than fury i dont think that's an argument

both specs are not hard specs in the context of all specs tho

[gaunt moat]

https://tenor.com/view/chef-gif-12302852456566453263

[lost saffron]

hard disagree at the moment

in dungeons at least

there is alot you can optimize as fury

[runic violet]

Just playing ez... playng optimized is hard

[restive peak]

Arms is giga braindead right now

[lost saffron]

while as arms you cannot really do too much

[restive peak]

It's super boring tbh

[lost saffron]

yeh

[gaunt moat]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476

[lost saffron]

arms is giga brain afk as fury you can at least maximize your hero talents uptime

[restive peak]

I'm pretty sad about possibly having to play slarms on Sikran/Nexus

[lost saffron]

on multiple targets

[rough tulip]

arms has way more variability than fury

[restive peak]

Only because it's gonna be soooooo boring

[pale lava]

understandable, I respect the grind and honesty

[restive peak]

^

[covert blaze]

i havent looked into arms in aoe specifically tbf

[gaunt moat]

ed ed n eddy giga chad btw

[restive peak]

You press cleave

[olive wraith]

Are they running cleave

[restive peak]

It goes brr

[olive wraith]

Oh that answers it lol

[coarse nest]

Ye you run cleave and believe it or not you actually don’t run Warbreaker

Kinda wild

[olive wraith]

Wait what

[pale lava]

https://tenor.com/view/ededdeddy-bumpin-gif-22455789

respect sir

[restive peak]

Bro WB gettin a HUGE +2 range buff ok?

[gaunt moat]

that's literally the coolest sounding spell from arms

[coarse nest]

Iftk stonks YYuge

[gaunt moat]

wtf

[restive peak]

ITS GONNA TOTALLY FIX THE PROBLEM

[fickle bluff]

thats a 25% increase in aoe

[covert blaze]

IFTK works with BI extra duration now

[hollow chasm]

and a new icon for spear too

[lost saffron]

can we all be friends now

[hollow chasm]

[restive peak]

xD

[hasty path]

I refuse to do this it feels so cooked

[junior gale]

no argueing with someone on the internet must mean you hate them

[covert blaze]

they need to fix wb frfr

[hollow chasm]

im still iffy on the no wb build. really depends how much tanks are gonna be pulling

[covert blaze]

not running that in aoe just feels wrong af

[hollow chasm]

but unless it's big fuck pulls, no wb prob gonna be better

[olive wraith]

Is arms going slayer

[buoyant salmon]

no wb is just strictly better

[restive peak]

Bro if you can't argue and still respect people, you got problems

[buoyant salmon]

u get haste for longer

[olive wraith]

Or is colossus better

[buoyant salmon]

you apply deep wounds with clea ve

[oblique trail]

It goes Slayer

[buoyant salmon]

slayers better rn

[restive peak]

Slarms

[junior gale]

[olive wraith]

Bs twice a minute?

[pale lava]

what's the issue with arms atm?

[junior gale]

a lot

[orchid dagger]

Only prot pvp goes Colossus iirc

[olive wraith]

Dead hero tree

[covert blaze]

isnt colossus better in m+ for arms