fury

[west grail]

trying to find a talent to prune for single minded fury

[storm rune]

your haste rating inversely correlates to your current sanity btw

[molten wing]

16 haste 34 mast

[sterile remnant]

18 haste 35 mast

[restive peak]

Incredibly lol

[junior gale]

Take away bloodbourne

[runic violet]

current at 588

[west grail]

all right thank ya

[lament ocean]

whats the macro for champions spear to automatically cast on you?

[craggy river]

#showtooltip
/cast [@player] Champions Spear

[warm crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1282674301773807667/caption-2.gif?ex=66e03708&is=66dee588&hm=2d0755090d38ab0cd62c88a1598c1956ec8912a4ebf416d10108003e901178db&

[west grail]

is the difference btween TG and SMF huge?

[fickle bluff]

~5%

[junior gale]

5%

[west grail]

so no.

time to main SMF

[junior gale]

Go and be happy little one

[silent burrow]

maxroll has a talents suggestion for each boss

[latent star]

if i install bigwigs i dont need dbm right?

[fickle bluff]

correct

you will need littlewigs too though

[latent star]

ty :x

yeah ok

gonna try dorkis setup

[silent burrow]

dbm be like, there's this insignificant thing happening RAP HORN RAP HORN RUN AWAY LITTLE GIRLLLLLL

holy moly

https://tenor.com/view/shhh-shush-silence-nose-gif-17895433

[fickle bluff]

aaaand its kino

[pale lava]

you're no longer required to sit inside the spear area to get the crit damage benefit in case this is why you want the @player macro instead of the @cursor

[oblique trail]

cease

[fickle bluff]

because people like the easiest route

[lament ocean]

tyty

[fickle bluff]

and not having to aim is easy

[calm quartz]

[golden hare]

spear @ player :aware:

[molten wing]

doesn't this just make it so i stab myself with the spear

or

[summer quail]

yes, so you can't move and you deal damage to yourself

[golden hare]

yeah, it's generally considered unhealthy to have a spear fly through your torso

[south kayak]

Not with that attitude

[bitter palm]

@cursor means it flies through your cursor which isnt healthy either

[south kayak]

Cursor also sometimes makes it fly on the roof

[fickle bluff]

dont aim at the roof then

[bitter palm]

hoooly chattinf

[fickle bluff]

another box classic

[bitter palm]

chatting

[golden hare]

i'd argue a cursor is easier to replace than a torso

but i'm but a mere mortal

[bitter palm]

hooly chatting

[narrow narwhal]

Erga anime and banezi anime pfps looking good

[storm meadow]

@player > @cursor imho

[golden hare]

nah but blasphemy inside my chruch will not go unpunished

[south kayak]

Have you ever done sanguine depths?

[fickle bluff]

yeah

[bitter palm]

yeah

[fickle bluff]

i never had roof problems

[south kayak]

Interesting

[junior gale]

@player heroic leap going hard

[golden hare]

real

[bitter palm]

real

[south kayak]

Fake

[fickle bluff]

minumum 5yrds on leap

[storm meadow]

I wonder if we have numbers to compare Mountain Thane vs Slayer. NGL I prefer Ravager to Stormblade by a lot and I'd like to see what I'm giving up in terms of power

[molten wing]

with the new camera collision options at least you wont hit the roof

[fickle bluff]

yeah we do and mountain thane sucks

[storm meadow]

you don't want to macro HL lmao

[fickle bluff]

yeah you do, @cursor

[junior gale]

My @cursor hl macro says otherwise

[storm meadow]

By how much ?

[fickle bluff]

slayer is ~15-20% better in ST

[storm meadow]

And for MM+ ?

[fickle bluff]

thane has slightly better aoe

but loses to st again

[sand crest]

prio target dmg and boss dmg is usually what lacks in m+ especially in higher keys, so slayer is most likely better

despite having worse sustained aoe

[storm meadow]

pfff... I hope when they rework the heroic talents they'll consider not locking us into using the dumb BStorm

Now I have to learn how to effing play Slayer for the raiding season 😭

[sand crest]

for raid its not even a real choice

[storm meadow]

yes. 20% is huge

[golden hare]

play thane prot it owns

[storm meadow]

lmao miss me with your prot shit

[sand crest]

tank in raid zzzzzzz

[golden hare]

😭😭

[storm meadow]

I tried !

[sand crest]

tank is rly fun in m+ tho

[golden hare]

ya

[storm meadow]

(during DF) to tank. Hated it

[ripe wyvern]

tanking in raids is boring af

[sand crest]

only thing you do as tank in raid is taunt swap and position boss

thats it

[golden hare]

and pamp damaj

[sand crest]

lil heroic leap out/charge in when off tanking

huge rage gen strats

[golden hare]

reprisal my enemy

[balmy shore]

this is the first time i’ve willingly been tanking tbh

prot thane’s been fun

[junior gale]

Clap clap

[lament ocean]

anyone have a ashen juggernaut WA?

[runic cypress]

What are you clapping there?

[golden hare]

me :3

[junior gale]

I'll leave that up to you

[runic cypress]

[runic violet]

WA has premade auras

[molten wing]

basically those 3 steps and then you just click when you want it to be active

[slate light]

Hi guys, is there way i could macro the gobllin launcher trinket to auto cast at target or cursor?

[past pivot]

Playing slayer is same as thane except you spin not clap. One button less. More big numbers. Not a steep curve by any measure.

[past pivot]

Not auto cast but can shift macro it so it shoots at target or cursor depending on your selection from the same keybind

[fluid gust]

Guys ,is everforged greataxe and charged claymore the same in crafted Gear?

[runic cypress]

No the one is an axe and the other is a sword

[fluid gust]

Got me

[static stratus]

hey, I know that it's a complete basic question but I was not able to find an answer to it in any of the linked guides:
What is currently looking better for raid: Arms or Fury?

[chrome plover]

there is no dps difference

[slate light]

How would that work could you help with that?

[runic cypress]

Fury is slightly ahead on most fights

[fluid gust]

Thanks

[static stratus]

Thanks for the responses 🙂

[storm meadow]

I find it extermely frustrating to see myself capped to 130 rage for 3seconds while bladestorming. This looks stupid AF

[past pivot]

Then play Thane.

[potent thicket]

heresy

[rose rain]

blasphemy

[clever belfry]

arm is kil

silence

[thorn steeple]

Hey are we supposed to enchance both weapons with Authority of the Depths?

Enchant*

[storm lantern]

Just make SMF passive, maybe nerf the passive a bit since we will get a free talent point, and everyone would be happy !

[feral ivy]

I’m getting multiple answers for m0 which dungeons is it going to be all of s1 dungeons or the current tww dungeons including the ones not in s1

[chrome plover]

i think the recipe comes from the raid so you cant get it yet (i may be wrong, i havent enchanted anything) but yes, we are

[storm lantern]

M0 is all TWW dungeons

M+ is 4 TWW dungeons and 4 from before

[feral ivy]

So mist and siege will not be m0

[storm lantern]

Affirmative

[feral ivy]

Kk good

Tyty

[thorn steeple]

they are on the AH for 8k gold . i was wondering if i should buy 2... it's expensive

[chrome plover]

oh, i havent been paying attention clearly

i will be buying rank 1 enchants just before raid on thursday and if i craft a weapon maybe i'll splash out on higher ranks

[fickle bluff]

Me when I lie on the internet

[junior gale]

https://tenor.com/view/misinformation-spreading-spreading-misinformation-online-gif-4543841945782036495

[chrome plover]

it is the season 1 rotation, and all heroics will change to the season 1 rotation

[fickle bluff]

As soon as the season launches, hc, m0 and m+ will all be the same dungeons

[chrome plover]

idk where people are getting this misinformation from

[storm lantern]

They changed it with TWW?

because in DF s1, M0 was all DF dungeons

[junior gale]

Yes it is different than in DF

[storm lantern]

I guess they want to avoid having to do non M+ M0 to get a certain trinket

My bad then

[chrome plover]

oh yeah it makes sense that people might think that, i wiped from my brain that it was like that in dragonflight

[molten wing]

mists m0

going to shadowlands again

[chrome plover]

🥹

i cant wait

[clever belfry]

@warm crag

[thorn steeple]

Yo , so basically if I play mountain thane fury, i never press WW anymore..i just do Thunder clap?

[balmy shore]

HI CHAWIE i joined gob gang

[warm crag]

rude

im playing gambling game (western)

[chrome plover]

no fucking way

lets go

[clever belfry]

sad

[chrome plover]

welcome

[clever belfry]

u should play chinese gambling game

[modest condor]

the worst timeline

[warm crag]

i will not play the chinese gambling game

[clever belfry]

this is so sad

[oblique trail]

<><

[clever belfry]

<>< ><> <>< <>< ><> <>< ><> <><

[storm lantern]

Fish

[rare coral]

is MT better for aoes rn?

[rose blade]

guys how can i find bis items for fury warior in pre season

[oblique trail]

Very very slightly better in sustained AoE yes

But for ST it's a lot worse than Slayer

[junior gale]

Que heroic dungeon get item upgrade item

[rose blade]

i know that but i need their names 😄

[runic cypress]

Max roll.gg

[zinc wave]

icy veins has a pre season bis list \

[rose blade]

@zinc wave not now

[oblique trail]

There is one with all the dungeon gear on wowhead

But it doesn't account for crafted/renown gear

[junior gale]

Archi being based af removed them because preseason min maxing is dumb

[runic cypress]

Because all of that is bad

You can get better gear then the crafted 590 from delves tomorrow/Wednesday

[rose blade]

okey

[runic cypress]

But please keep making them crests and paying me money to make them pls

[edgy widget]

it doesn't anymore!

all the pre-season bis lists have been removed from guides and replaced with M+ ones

M+0 != pre-season, and there's no fucking way I'm making some cursed "heroic week bis" list

[molten wing]

Grim Batol enjoyers

[junior gale]

But Archi how do I know what item to use!!!

[dense elbow]

I am ready

[spare steppe]

isn’t a m0 bis list just say the same as a m+ bis list

[storm rune]

main stat on trinket, how i missed you

[spare steppe]

Who would complain

[bitter palm]

where larynx xd

[tidal heron]

M0 is War Within dungeons, M+ is others

(I think)

[junior gale]

Not true

[bitter palm]

not sure how m0 week will work

they get s1 dungeons when s1 starts

[runic cypress]

BUT I HAVE TO KNOW WHAT I NEED IN ORDER TO MAXIMIZE MY LFR POTENTIAL PLEASE ARCHIMEDES

[tidal heron]

Ah, nvm me then, carry on 🤣

[junior gale]

M0 week will be S1 dungeons

Confirmed by Blizz

[modest condor]

no because you cant get ilvl 636 from m0

so all the stats are gonna be completely different

[molten wing]

M0 is Stonevault/Dawnbreaker/Ara Ara City of Hoes/City/Mists /necrotic wake / grim batol / Siege of Barolus

same as m+ when it releases

[modest condor]

speaking of stonevault

[runic cypress]

Dawnbreaker sucks so much

[modest condor]

love the boss that's gonna be impossible without a range kick

[summer crater]

The city of hoes

[bitter palm]

🎦

[runic cypress]

I'm pretty sure you can kick him he's casting the thing after sending the big square so I'm sure you can charge up and kick him

[summer crater]

Which one?

[runic cypress]

He's probably talking about the stone speakers

[modest condor]

yes

[runic cypress]

Or machine speakers

[molten wing]

the two bosses where one goes up

[runic cypress]

Whatever the mech and caster boss

[molten wing]

i'm still dying to the giant box flying through the room

idc

[runic cypress]

[modest condor]

he jumps away, you have to dodge a big ass crate coming through the center, and then he does like a 1 second cast that needs to be interrupted

[summer crater]

There's some mechanic in mythic where melee can't be near the caster?

Ah

[modest condor]

it's there on heroic as well

[bitter palm]

its m0

[modest condor]

you can just ignore the cast on heroic because it does no damage

[bitter palm]

bosses will be dead

in 30 seconds

[modest condor]

but in m+ that cast is gonna kill you

[summer crater]

I mean on heroic I can interrupt him without being hit

[runic cypress]

Is it really one second?

[summer crater]

By the thing

[modest condor]

emphasis on like

meaning i dont know

guess i havent tried hard enough if you were able to kick it

[runic cypress]

I feel like there will be enough time to charge to him after his square launch

I'm gonna try it out right now actually

And by right now I mean when I get out of bed and put some pants on

[bitter palm]

dont need pants

[hardy shuttle]

If you're on a far corner from the cast you can't really get there, but with leap from the close corners you can make it

[sour frigate]

heroic leap into kick

[modest condor]

ok what about a group without a warrior

[storm rune]

fuck em

[summer crater]

Rogue is even easier

They just shadowstep

[sour frigate]

run there beforehand 😎

[hardy shuttle]

Shaman value 📈

[summer crater]

Others I don't know

[dreamy trench]

What do you think of single minded fury?

[runic cypress]

Who cares lmao

[runic cypress]

Dead

[dreamy trench]

why?

[spare steppe]

It’s bad

The benefits of the talent do not outweigh the loss of stats and weapon

[dreamy trench]

😦

[storm lantern]

I like round numbers

[eager thorn]

Its not that bad

Only like 4.7% behind actual build

[edgy widget]

not technically, since N/Heroic gear also exists

[storm lantern]

pre-S1 madness

[eager thorn]

M0 is tww dungeons still too

[storm lantern]

Nah

It's M+ dungeons

[eager thorn]

M+ will be 4 non tww so diff loot

[storm lantern]

It's the new rule with the new Difficulty adjust

M0s will be the M+ dungeons

[eager thorn]

Source? Coulda sworn i saw ppl in here say it’s tww dgs

[storm lantern]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/the-war-within/dungeons-hub

here

[teal drift]

M0s are all current M+ is the 8 in the list including the old stuff

[south kayak]

What weapon enchants are you guys using?

[storm lantern]

Radiant powa

until better weapon

[south kayak]

how much gold is that

[storm lantern]

then i go depth

[south kayak]

Enchants were giga expensive in the beginning of DF

probably the same case now

[sullen dove]

Depths available rn

Just buy it

[storm lantern]

13k for rank 2 ( cheaper than rank 1)

[sullen dove]

only 70k

[ember aurora]

in my server deep one are impossible to buy (200k) but radiant is ok

[storm lantern]

Worse on EU

kek

[errant vessel]

Anyone that's tried the Overclocked Gear-a-rang?

[edgy widget]

nope, nobody, never heard of it!

[errant vessel]

do you know if it's split dmg on the use effect?

[edgy widget]

it doesn't split per se, but it loses 5% damage each time it hits something, so it works out somewhat similarly

[sullen dove]

So it does 0 dmg on 20 targets?

surely

[edgy widget]

it's actually pretty decent for multitarget, though it is a skillshot and you need targets to be at least somewhat lined up to hit them

[sullen dove]

that’d be good troll

[storm lantern]

I kinda wanna meme on SMF.

ThonkSpin

[oblique trail]

Go for it

[storm lantern]

5% isn't a big deal at my level of play

[edgy widget]

no, the first target would be full damage and the last target would be -62% damage

[uneven pilot]

With titan torment + rage, this opener should proc a free enrage, right? Why does the sim seem to want to put a manual rampage there before bladestorm?

[edgy widget]

it doesn't lose 5% damage per target hit, it loses 5% each time it deals damage - it would take an infinite number of targets to actually reach zero

[bitter palm]

to get bloodbath

[uneven pilot]

Thanks

[slim coral]

probably to dump rage

[mint obsidian]

should we spend all crest for 590 gear or keep em?

[bitter palm]

weathered dont mean anything

[edgy widget]

craft 590, use whatever remains on upgrades

[mint obsidian]

Carved?

[storm lantern]

Use the lowest crests to craft 590 gear

[edgy widget]

don't use your carved, there's a whole new group of drops coming out tomorrow

[mint obsidian]

ok thx

[south kayak]

Why is it that expensive lol

[storm lantern]

Weathered i think?

[edgy widget]

cause they know players dumb enough to buy expensive enchants asap

[runic cypress]

People are dumb

[south kayak]

I'm just gonna keep using sophic devotion for now

[runic cypress]

Imma put mongoose on mine

[slim coral]

Well it's that expensive because it cost 600 AA to be able to get rn

until raid is out

[storm lantern]

What should i sacrifice to go SMF tho, bloodcraze?

[chrome plover]

false

there are only 8 dungeons

[south kayak]

AA?

[slim coral]

that's the raid enchant right?

[runic cypress]

Alcoholic Anonymous

[oblique trail]

Its a gamble of 600 acuity

[chrome plover]

artisan's acuity

[slim coral]

Artisans Acuity

[south kayak]

oh shit

lmao fuck that

then it's not bis

[uneven pilot]

So it's fine to Rampage in the opener before bladestorm even if you're already enraged?

[south kayak]

radiant power is

[haughty abyss]

Do we use Weapons Stones or Oils?

[storm lantern]

Radiant power is perfectly fine for a week 1

[south kayak]

nah it's fine for all weeks

[oblique trail]

They're about equal, but oils are a lot cheaper

[bitter palm]

reck charge gives u enogu hrage to rampage

[south kayak]

i aint touching depths

[slim coral]

Yes if you're going to burn 100+ rage

[storm lantern]

( and beyond)

[tight swift]

Hi everyone, I have a question and felt this was the best place to ask!
Every guide explains the opener and priority list, but with mobs dying fast in low content I want to know how I should divide my cooldowns over multiple packs, so I can do decent damage multiple pulls instead of blasting big on the first pack, and hitting like a wet noodle the next few packs untill my cooldowns are back up again.

[storm rune]

divide?

[oblique trail]

Just send all at once

[bitter palm]

you rampage to get reckless abandon and to dump some rage

[slim coral]

Honestly it doesnt matter

[oblique trail]

Don't practice improper play

[slim coral]

just send cds on cd

[oblique trail]

Since in M+ you will want to use everything on CD, and you might as well stay in that mindset

[runic cypress]

Stones cost a null stone to make which is 2.5k in eu

I dunno if it's worth jt

[tight swift]

Yeah okay noted, then it is what it is, ty!

[oblique trail]

Your CDs as well are also on fairly low CD, so holding them between pulls will quickly lead to overall loss of casts

[tight swift]

Aah yes that is true, guess m+ will make it feel better when things don't die in 5 seconds

[south kayak]

ok so Depths only drops from the raid? aside from the gamble

[oblique trail]

Yes

[south kayak]

gotcha

[wanton mirage]

Anyone following the Larias guide, which renown level are you at right now?

[storm lantern]

I'm losing 5,208 % total damage in a parse going SMF

That's fiiiine

[storm lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/its-not-a-race-saturday-night-live-weekend-update-you-dont-have-to-hurry-you-dont-need-to-hurry-gif-21609421

[summer quail]

more if there's aoe

[storm lantern]

I honestly don't know what to sacrifice with the M+ build yeah

Everything seems to be a ginormous loss

[edgy widget]

for SMF?

[storm lantern]

yeah

Bloodcraze seems to be the least painful to lose

[south kayak]

Are you guys gonna use double duskthread or Darkmoon asendance?

[sand nacelle]

oh is crushing blow now priority over bloodbath?

[summer quail]

ascendance, if things don't change that is. i will always prio raid over m+

[summer quail]

has been for a while

[edgy widget]

as weird as it sounds, drop Unhinged if you want more AoE
or drop Bloodborne if you want more ST

[storm lantern]

Oh

[south kayak]

I don't really do hardcore raiding, nor M+ pushing but I do tend to raid more. So I guess Asendance is the most logical step.

[sand nacelle]

i've been under a rock since s4, thanks

[south kayak]

Wish they would nerf CB and buff Execute

[edgy widget]

CB doesn't need a nerf

RB is the problem

[summer quail]

depending on how much i like the dungeons i might craft duskthread to push. but we have dawnbreaker so i doubt it

[spare steppe]

What makes RB a problem?

[summer quail]

rb does alot of damage and buffs 2 spells

big problem

[edgy widget]

cause CB is limited by how often you're able to press Rampage, but RB is not

[south kayak]

It has a lot of buffs on it

[edgy widget]

and RB has like 7 talents buffing it

[spare steppe]

Doesn’t execute have quite a few talents buffing it too?

[south kayak]

It does but they're weak

[summer quail]

1

[covert void]

with the st raid build we're not meant to press both av and reck around the same time are we? because of Berserkers torment?

[edgy widget]

it has 3

but they're not that big

[spare steppe]

Huh interesting

TIL

[edgy widget]

they're also only active for 20/35% of the fight, not 100%

[summer quail]

3? we have AJ and massacre? what's the 3rd one? show no mercy? massacre is so smol

[edgy widget]

when you add all the damage amps that RB gets, it hits about the same as Execute, plus it has Slaughtering + Bloodcraze on top

[south kayak]

So the ideal scenario is to nerf RB and buff Execute?

[edgy widget]

Cruel Strikes, and the question wasn't how big they are

[summer quail]

ye that's true

[finite vector]

Is it going to be best to craft a weapon on tuesday?

[summer quail]

wait til mythic week. never know if tuning will change things

[edgy widget]

Execute doesn't need to compete with CB, because CB can only be used once per Rampage cycle, yet Rampage can't be used after every CB

Execute competes against fillers - the things you press while waiting for Rampage to become available again, which is BT & RB

[south kayak]

I would say no but depending on whether you get a free crest from raid quest, you can craft immediately. And there's also tuning pending (possibly)

[edgy widget]

BT is already in the doghouse, and RB is very strong, which leads to prioritizing RB above everything else

[edgy widget]

#1237307555961634826

[storm lantern]

Interesting result

[hard widget]

No access?

[south kayak]

lmao no access

[spare steppe]

That’s kinda wild how much is invested in RB

[south kayak]

[edgy widget]

you're not allowed

[finite vector]

Awesome thanks

[hard widget]

😦

[storm lantern]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/6zjptzW2m9ChP7ccdqQqqZ with TG

[balmy shore]

only cool kids know what to craft

[storm lantern]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/dGTSCWgSA7idpnSQgXjKWz with SMF

[balmy shore]

(not me)

[south kayak]

Execute should be a no brainer press as soon as it lights up IMO

[storm lantern]

SHould be, but it's not the case for us Fury

[spare steppe]

I just want execute to hit like a truck

[summer quail]

keep in mind dslice has some issues as it cannot accurately sim a m+ dungeon due to how many variables there are. also i do not know if current apl is good for dslice

[fiery hare]

It also buffs bladestorm rite?

[storm lantern]

True true

[south kayak]

You don't need to press a lot of executes to buff it, like 3 max

[onyx fox]

buff execute 100,000%

[fiery hare]

Ye tru

[onyx fox]

pog

[edgy widget]

it's not "accurate" but it's not not accurate either

the actual numbers might not be the same as you see in a dungeon, but DS is actually fairly indicative of a M+ experience

[balmy shore]

context matters

[south kayak]

The fact that you'd rather press BT and RB over Execute is a crime punishable by death

[chrome plover]

punishable by execution

[summer quail]

yeye, i assume it's as good as it can be. unless you want to sim specific pulls within specific dungeons etc but that sounds like a major pain

[chrome plover]

[tulip swallow]

Make RA empower execute

[south kayak]

[chrome plover]

turn it into condemn

[south kayak]

What would it be called?

Capital Execution

[edgy widget]

there is a thing for that, it's called dungeon route

but it's incredibly specialized and has its own failures

[tulip swallow]

Death Penalty

[south kayak]

lmao

[edgy widget]

dungeon slice is a lot more indicative of an actual M+ than people realize though

[summer quail]

did not know that was a thing. it being incredibly specialized makes sense

[south kayak]

yo archi what do you think about that idea, making RA empower execute?

[edgy widget]

na I'm good

RA is strong enough already

[south kayak]

Just make AM baseline at this point :chatting

[edgy widget]

you'd fix like 80% of Fury's problems by just nerfing RB and putting some of that damage back into other sources

[tulip swallow]

AM in class tree

[edgy widget]

you really do not have to reinvent the wheel to fix a simple tuning issue

[onyx fox]

AM and RA HOLY FUCK 🥜 NUT

[edgy widget]

trying to come up with new effects or mechanics to accomplish a simple numbers tweak is just complicating the problem

[summer quail]

how much do you reckon RB would need to get nerfed by? ofc this is just a hypothetical conversation but i enjoy those

[covert blaze]

That would maybe make the rotation super static because you probably use all 3 RA spells into another rampage

[south kayak]

30%

[tulip swallow]

It's a pretty minor issue overall tbh

[edgy widget]

depends on how you wanna do it - could nerf RB directly, could reduce Slaughtering Strikes, could do something to Bloodcraze

[south kayak]

Yeah, I know. Pretty boring

[bitter palm]

guillotine ez

[coarse nest]

It’d be nice if they would tune abilities so that our spender is the heavy hitter and you never want to overcap rage because of that

[edgy widget]

Personally I'd start by changing the hero talents that buff RB damage by 15/30% into buffing BT/Execute instead

[bitter palm]

could make it CB+BB OR exe but thats boring

we dont need more ra power

[chrome plover]

They should make it so that when Raging Blow resets its own cooldown, the damage of your next Bloodthirst is increased by 10%, stacking up to 2 times.

[edgy widget]

and maybe think about allowing Execute to trigger Bloodcraze, but that's the only effect change I'd consider

[summer quail]

ye 30% rb buff from 1 hero talent is pretty ridiculous

[south kayak]

I had this idea to make Slaughtering Strikes a global thing. Each filler gives you one stack of slaughtering strikes, and nerf it to 10% per stack

[edgy widget]

frankly Slaughtering could be nerfed to 10% and left as is

[summer quail]

holy moly. you should be our new dev, insane idea

[chrome plover]

thanks

[edgy widget]

you could also go a whole other route and just cull the amount of RB resets

[south kayak]

[edgy widget]

so that you can't endlessly spam it

[tulip swallow]

Slaughtering isn't particularly interesting tbh, to me it mostly exists to give onslaught some purpose

[bitter palm]

i wouldnt want that honeslty

[edgy widget]

that doesn't really encourage you to press BT though, that just creates the season 3 problem (only press BT @ max stacks)

[bitter palm]

fury having to fill with slam/ww feels bad as fuck

buff bt/exe

[edgy widget]

I didn't say you'd have to fill with Slam/WW more

but you would have to press BT more

[tulip swallow]

If you actually have SD talented the slam/ww is almost entirely eliminated

or play thane I guess

[brittle phoenix]

So real

[edgy widget]

note that I did not say "remove resets entirely" - I said "reduce them"

[covert blaze]

Warlock spell

[eternal sundial]

I love how opprtunist can make both specs play worse

Yippie

[edgy widget]

meh Opportunist can be ignored tbh

[sterile remnant]

Chief, a question. we do CB + BB after each rampage no matter what in the new ST build?

[eternal sundial]

+2k Sir

[edgy widget]

yeah lul

2k is literally nothing

[eternal sundial]

Gain is a gain

[bitter palm]

why do they have a spell called guillotine

[eternal sundial]

Pet casts a thing

With an axe

[bitter palm]

ye tehy also have bladestorm

felstorm

w/e its called

same icon

[edgy widget]

so is storm bolt

still not going to use it

[balmy shore]

warriors are just warlock pets…

[eternal sundial]

It's more than bolt isnt it

[sterile remnant]

thats...dark

[south kayak]

real

[bitter palm]

idk i havent tested it

[eternal sundial]

@warm crag spomgiewar

[bitter palm]

but opportunist on arms fucks

[edgy widget]

talking about bolt during bladestorm is a gain, but not one that's worth using

[bitter palm]

havent tried removing the line

[covert blaze]

Cause the felguard has a giant ass axe

[onyx fox]

@balmy shore being a gross clothie pet is never gonna happen

[bitter palm]

nerd class

[summer quail]

unless you somehow lost enrage the answer is yes

[tulip swallow]

bladestorm fucks now but there were times where you could have convinced me felstorm did more damage

[south kayak]

Blizzard casually buffing RB by 30% in Slayer talents and calling it a day :chatting

[balmy shore]

i feel like this is why i heroic throw if im ever off the boss even though its nothing

[storm rune]

And here I thought I was specced fury, not sub

[burnt kelp]

felguards are arms warrior, they have cleave, bladestorm and stormbolt

in every way except physical, I'm a felguard

[chrome plover]

cut off head

[edgy widget]

the irony is that heroic throw is more likely to proc stuff and waste buff durations, losing more damage than you gain

[balmy shore]

xd

[rigid stirrup]

Why even give us a range option

[tulip swallow]

Heroic Throw procs signet brand Heroic throw procs augury

[rigid stirrup]

My class fantasy

[edgy widget]

to pull mobs

[rigid stirrup]

Tru

[edgy widget]

that's why H Throw was added

[restive granite]

in my days you would shoot the bastard from a corner

[eternal sundial]

h throw is a cool spell

Id be sad if i didnt have it

[chrome plover]

I love pressing it when I'm out of range even if it does no dam 🥹

at least it feels like im still doing something

[thick fossil]

I'd still rather the stat stick of a ranged weapon.

[eternal sundial]

Also i will definitely be doing the opprtunist check

[rigid stirrup]

Give me back gun usage

[edgy widget]

could be worse, we could be Frost DK or Enh Shaman with some stacking bullshit to weave Heroic Throw into the rotation every 20s

[balmy shore]

i heroic throw like i bshout

[burnt kelp]

finishing off mages with heroic throw is also peak warrior

(when it dealt damage)

[tulip swallow]

We can heroic throw but can't heroic strike 🤔

[balmy shore]

i need to constantly press something 😔

give me a heroic throw that doesn’t give me the negatives

[covert blaze]

Frost dk hasn't used that for years tbf

[edgy widget]

still exists though

[burnt kelp]

it was fun when you one shot people in world pvp with the legendary in legion

[covert blaze]

Yeah so does DoI

[chrome plover]

ww has a thing for crackling jade lightning now too

[edgy widget]

"hasn't used it in years" is one cracked tuning pass away from being a mandatory talent

[south kayak]

I don't think they use that

[edgy widget]

I'd rather dumb shit not exist whatsoever

[chrome plover]

your chi spenders give it a stacking damage buff or something

[south kayak]

even tho they do have it

[chrome plover]

so every now and again you slam crackling jade

[burnt kelp]

having to press jade lightning on ww monk sounds like pure torture

[restive granite]

wasnt that a legion leggo too?

[balmy shore]

ew

doesn’t that button tickle

like super small

[orchid dagger]

He doesn't know

[chrome plover]

yeah it was

[covert blaze]

That talents gives it stacking damage and reduced cast time iirc

[south kayak]

Yeah it does do basically nothing lol

[covert blaze]

Last emperor's capacitor

[cursive quiver]

Yup. At the start it was their worst. But at the end it was one of the best ones

[tulip swallow]

in legion it was like 1000% damage buff or something, idk what the tuning is like now

[chrome plover]

not when you give it +2000% damage

[tender seal]

How u get that nice "member of..." Thing next to ur name ?

[balmy shore]

o

i understand

i don’t want that on warrior

[balmy shore]

it’s a beta feature for servers to let ppl rep it

[restive granite]

the most degenerate gameplay when was touch of karma with the leggo became one of their highest damage sources

[orchid dagger]

Demolish be like:

[balmy shore]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046046500578406479/1265022442599088192/makesweet-volebs.gif

[chrome plover]

touch of karma encourages degeneracy as a concept tbf

[tulip swallow]

For a while people would stand in damage to get runic power from AMS

[south kayak]

Glad touch of death was gutted

[tender seal]

Ty

[burnt kelp]

a very long while

when has ams stopped giving runic power

[south kayak]

I thought it still does lol

[tulip swallow]

I think it still gives like 10 or something, but they made the change in legion I think

I don't think it was up to 100, but maybe like 40 or 50 in wod

[orchid dagger]

It still does

It's just capped

[covert blaze]

Still a thing

Not as good tho

[south kayak]

MoP Berserker Stance

[oblique trail]

Me when Uldir back in BFA

[south kayak]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/148897941883584512/997086666961457203/chatting.gif

[oblique trail]

ToK being your highest damage (iirc)

[orchid dagger]

MoP SMF

[storm lantern]

Anything SMF before LEgion

dracthyr_nod

[orchid dagger]

When we had nice things

[restive granite]

SMF had an execute modifier back in wod right?

[chrome plover]

[tulip swallow]

Fury having CS was like peak button bloat but it worked

[orchid dagger]

It still lost out to TG

[balmy shore]

delete smf

[orchid dagger]

No

[balmy shore]

who wants to wield two dinky weapons over two giga massive weapons

[south kayak]

I do

[orchid dagger]

^

[balmy shore]

ew

[south kayak]

I've gotten tired of huge weapons

[orchid dagger]

Fist Warrior is peak

[storm lantern]

OG warriors do

[storm rune]

fist war goes so hard

[orchid dagger]

Rampaging with Fists

[balmy shore]

monk

[storm lantern]

i'm not a hippie

[tulip swallow]

World quests + rares give strength fist weapons sometimes but I don't think I've ever seen one from real content

[sand crest]

yo guys, does this look like a correct st breakdown? was hitting dummy for roughly 2mins with the "new" onslaught-less build

[orchid dagger]

If I wanted to prance around like I live in California I'd play monk

[balmy shore]

i don’t know what that means

[storm rune]

Monks cosplaying as the Netflix version of Iron Fist

[warm crag]

spomgiewarr is too powerful

[orchid dagger]

Kek

[oblique trail]

[fiery hare]

Tbh the legion hidden appearance axes are bis transmog,not too huge not too smol

[orchid dagger]

The Arcanite one?

[exotic glacier]

this the fury subreddit sir.

[burnt kelp]

they are cool but I'd still rather mog 1 handers

[exotic glacier]

the axes.

[orchid dagger]

subreddit

Go back to boneless 4chan

[restive granite]

double 2 handed swords from WoD timed dungeon challenge on a tauren

thats peak warrior

[burnt kelp]

tauren

[junior gale]

dont hate on boneless wings like that wtf

[burnt kelp]

[exotic glacier]

you got me on that one... sigh.

[exotic glacier]

boneless wings are just adult chicken nuggies.

[burnt kelp]

and that's cool

[junior gale]

and chicken nuggets own

[tulip swallow]

Nuggies good

[orchid dagger]

Nah peak warrior is Fist of the Deity SMF

[exotic glacier]

oh no, I did it.

I awoke the nuggie fanbase

[burnt kelp]

peak warrior is actually the army of female gnomes with pink pigtails and rank 14 gear in classic

and the alliance sword that's twice their size

[exotic glacier]

Legion fury was pretty great (IMO)

[orchid dagger]

Little bro, we all 80 IQ warriors with our nuggies & drink of choice

[burnt kelp]

like a day that never ends

mop fury was cool

[orchid dagger]

No because that's when Blizzard decided to have the sub-brick IQ idea of making Fury only TG

[burnt kelp]

stormbolt didn't crit > I "accidentally" wipe the raid

[orchid dagger]

When FDK gets to have both DW and 2h

[burnt kelp]

that's actually annoying as fuck isn't it

[restive peak]

Fdk has a better one always too

[storm rune]

Legion made some tough choices for the betterment of the game

[burnt kelp]

can you even focus only 1 handers on dk anymore

[restive peak]

Where playing the suboptimal 1 is a DPS loss

Same as TG to SMF

[orchid dagger]

No, you have to be Frost spec

Or a pvp gigachad

[restive peak]

Use my prior suggestion, mog blade of the harbingers

[burnt kelp]

but frost can loot 2handers and 1handers right?

[restive peak]

There ya go, you’re an SMF warr

[orchid dagger]

Yes

[burnt kelp]

so you can just get a 2hander in your vault despite wanting to play fdk

[orchid dagger]

Where fist mog

[restive peak]

It’s called monk, get it poppin

Not everything has to be everything lmao

[south kayak]

Isn’t M0 gear being Veteran a little low?

[orchid dagger]

Welfare box? Nah I buy from Conq vendor

[burnt kelp]

I haven't touched pvp in so long I didn't even know conq vendors were back

[exotic glacier]

This is why we all loot spec to Arms. To avoid 1 handers.

[orchid dagger]

They've always been back lmao

[burnt kelp]

what do you mean, always

[orchid dagger]

It's also because Blizz actively refuses to make SMF worth

[burnt kelp]

I don't remember pvp vendors in legion

[restive peak]

Yeah, because it’s a meme, and good

SMF being better is an indirect nerf, just so you know

2hers have more stam

[exotic glacier]

Do you have any idea how annoyed we would be if SMF and TG switched every patch?

[south kayak]

Just make us able to transmog 1h

[burnt kelp]

that implies that smf couldn't just give you X% more stam

[orchid dagger]

Walk up to conq vendor
Buy weapon of patch

Problem solved

[restive peak]

Why would it? You know that shamans lost 2h enh and just like…moved on, yeah?

[storm lantern]

At 590 ilvl, i'm losing 140k hp going smf

[burnt kelp]

i wouldn't say that

there's always a few shamans begging for 2 handers

[restive peak]

There’s always a few people begging for everything

[burnt kelp]

despite 2 handed shaman never actually being good in any content

[restive peak]

Can’t please em all

[storm lantern]

SMF gang is numerous because it was a forced shift during legion

[chrome plover]

and the unhappy ones are usually the loudest

[restive peak]

It’s not numerous, very few people care.

^

[exotic glacier]

I ONLY care about the transmog

[burnt kelp]

don't get me wrong I don't actually care about SMF, I just wouldn't care if they decided to delete smf OR tg next expansion

just pick one

it changes literally nothing

[storm lantern]

Could be ending with a single change. let us mog the 2handed into 1handed

[restive peak]

It serves no purpose other than winning your pointless battle at this point, it would literally be a waste of their time to even attempt to balance them

Wish they’d delete SMF and post the patch note with a middle finger attached

[nimble ermine]

if you want to play fwar for smh

why dont you just play fdk

[restive peak]

^

[exotic glacier]

then they'd have to come up with a new useless talent to fill its slot.

[nimble ermine]

we dont have any insane animations on smf

[burnt kelp]

because you don't want to be stuck in a wheelchair

playing any plate class other than warrior is horrible

[restive peak]

Classes have differences, changing the class to fit 3% of the population because they refuse to reroll to their actual class fantasy would be wild

[restive granite]

2 2handed weapons > 4 1handed weapons

simple maths

more damage

[nimble ermine]

id rather have them gamble a new talent than smf ever being considered a meta pick

[restive peak]

DKs aren’t wheelchairs anymore

[storm lantern]

Cause fdk as the malus of being a death knight

[runic cypress]

So why keep SMF talent then?

[burnt kelp]

aren't they

[exotic glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/the-universe-tim-and-eric-mind-blown-mind-blown-meme-mind-explosion-mind-explosion-meme-gif-18002878

[burnt kelp]

what did they get

[restive peak]

You could legit just remove SMF and not fill that talent spot

Nothing would change

[burnt kelp]

I guess unholy got the ponies

[restive peak]

Because leaving it allows the suboptimal whiners to be semi appeased while costing blizz nothing

[burnt kelp]

but frost isn't getting out of deathbringer

[exotic glacier]

Cant Frost DKs literally do 100% of combat mounted now?

[burnt kelp]

no

[restive peak]

They have blatantly stated many times SMF will never be designed to be ahead of TG, it is a flavour spec for fun

[storm lantern]

Not in raid and dungeon

[nimble ermine]

you dont play horsemen on fdk

[burnt kelp]

not anywhere

[exotic glacier]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[runic cypress]

That's not a good hero spec for any except delves

[burnt kelp]

you are griefing more than smf player if you pick rider on fdk

[exotic glacier]

thats sorta sad since it was the clear winner on flavour

[storm lantern]

4.5% is hardly griefing

[eternal sundial]

So like thane on st

[fading bane]

Surely SMF isnt that bad now that its only -1 talent point

who cares if ppl want to play it

[eternal sundial]

It is if you do content where damage matters

[restive peak]

4.5% in a competitive environment is griefing

[storm lantern]

i'm not a racer, i'm not a rank 1 M+ player, so SMF is more than fine in the current state

[nimble ermine]

sure, play whatever you want, but do not be surprised if you get gatekept

[restive peak]

If you let your entire 20 man roster give up 4.5%, it’s a shit ton

[restive granite]

i think nobody cares, its the fact ppl constantly bringing it up and complaining about it

[runic cypress]

Just let fury warriors transmog one handers and no one would care anymore

[eternal sundial]

Fury lootspec is also just aids

[runic cypress]

I personally hate fury for using 2 handers now

[storm lantern]

Ah this i agree

[eternal sundial]

50/50 if you get ur smf shit

[restive peak]

And yeah, you’re free to pick suboptimally and other players are free to pick to never invite you

[exotic glacier]

sadge

[eternal sundial]

Lmaooo

[storm lantern]

Never had issue to get titles in past seasons with SMF

shrug

[restive peak]

If transmog would fix it for you, why not just transmog any of the 50+ small 2hers?

[exotic glacier]

its nice to play with friends, isnt it

[eternal sundial]

You mean the 1800 io title im assuming

[restive peak]

Sure, link me your smf title runs

[fading bane]

now i want to get Famed with SMF

[storm lantern]

I'm sane enough to avoid the pug runs

[restive granite]

https://tenor.com/view/perfect-popcorn-michael-jackson-gif-26271837

[runic cypress]

Because I want to transmog one handers I like like Quel'Serrar

[restive peak]

There are very few of us who title as warr, it’s not hard to verify you’re full of shit lmao

[eternal sundial]

Just reclear before Hof is closed

Technically that's Hof if u do it on smf xd

[restive peak]

As in we all know each other and chat

[storm lantern]

As said, i'm not a rank1 M+ yeah, i get the mount, the title, happy for that

[runic cypress]

What you guys chatting about?

[restive granite]

me 🙂

[fading bane]

say gex

[gaunt moat]

Owo Linc is stormforged now

[exotic glacier]

"the agenda"

[eternal sundial]

That's why saying title is maybe misleading

[burnt kelp]

I'm still waiting for the 1 handed legendary for dh/fdk/fury/rogue/monk

[eternal sundial]

Cuz the draconic and draconic hero

[restive peak]

I assume he’s talking about aotc title

[eternal sundial]

Is a fucking MILE

[burnt kelp]

fury warriors forced to play smf and paying 2M gold for their legendary

[storm lantern]

Yes, not the hero or mythic raid

[gaunt moat]

Fuckin hell been a long time without seeing you the goat of the fury channel

[eternal sundial]

Mythic raid with 1h is fine

[fading bane]

S4 was xdd

[eternal sundial]

I think i did a smf reclear in fated at some point

[restive peak]

Ok well that’s like saying I get title every season when you mean the campaign title

[fading bane]

New expansion, we go hard

[restive peak]

You could get aotc and 2500io dpsing as a resto did

Druid

[eternal sundial]

I got m+ title on healer shaman with grieftorch and agi staff equipped

[restive peak]

Big dubs

[eternal sundial]

Big dam once i got an int wep

[storm lantern]

As i stated at the start, i'm not a racer,and not aiming for a rank 1 M+.

[calm quartz]

Chatting about her

[nimble ermine]

remove smf and put crit dam banner in its place

thoughts

[runic cypress]

Reported

[restive peak]

Ok, but then you don’t have a horse in the reason smf sucks race

[eternal sundial]

[burnt kelp]

no banners

[storm lantern]

bring back maldraxxus banner

[storm lantern]

i never was, i'm fine with the current state of SMF

[runic cypress]

Bring back Gladiator Stance

[burnt kelp]

bring back heroic strike

[calm quartz]

[restive granite]

🤮

[nimble ermine]

bring back mop stormbolt

[burnt kelp]

bring back mop fury woyer

[restive peak]

People discussing this are complaining from a competitive standpoint, non competitive is legit a play what you want cuz who cares angle

[eternal sundial]

With current slayer xdd

[nimble ermine]

unironically

[covert blaze]

I killed mythic uunat (in 8.3)

[eternal sundial]

I killed ghun

10.2

[fading bane]

Uunat goated boss

[storm lantern]

loved that mini raid

[exotic glacier]

oh ya! well Kungen defeated the Lich King in Classic /s

[fading bane]

imagine if we got mini raids

instead of Fated

[burnt kelp]

I did enjoy melees not being allowed in the raid until it was nerfed

[fading bane]

I killed it on Ele shaman

[burnt kelp]

well, aside from 1 dh to buff the warlocks/shamans

[eternal sundial]

Fotm smh

[fading bane]

it went so hard on that boss

Yeah we wanted to kill it lmao

and i wanted to play

[burnt kelp]

that doesn't count as fotm if warrior isn't mathematically allowed on the boss

[fading bane]

I started the first boss as warrrior

but i just geared a spriest instead

[runic cypress]

Hopefully we got only 2 seasons and a fated one now that they want to push the cycle faster

[fading bane]

and then a shaman for Uunat

[eternal sundial]

Let me flame ppl

Idgaf about reality

[storm lantern]

We will have a raid of sorts with the 20th, but only at heroic level max

[runic cypress]

2 seasons 1 fated raid 1 fated delve season

[eternal sundial]

I need to be toxic

[fading bane]

3 seasons + 1/2 mini raids is so much better than fated

[storm lantern]

( And Hero track)

[burnt kelp]

I understand

[inner harbor]

are the consumables on wow head still bis ?

[fading bane]

should be

nothing has been changed related to them

[inner harbor]

type shit

[runic cypress]

Stones are expensive as fuck

[eternal sundial]

Go oils

Same dam

[nimble ermine]

oiled up woryor

[fading bane]

are oils still ST dmg only?

[inner harbor]

wdym stones ? like gems ?

[eternal sundial]

Weightstones

[runic cypress]

No I mean stones as in stones

[storm lantern]

Oil your weapons

[fading bane]

pick some stones up outside ur house

[runic cypress]

They cost a null stone to make which is like 2.5-4k each

[gaunt moat]

The weightstones that need a voidstone for EACH CRAFT when you barely get 2 void stones every 30 min

[fading bane]

no way they did that what

[gaunt moat]

[burnt kelp]

the fucking bs back at it again

[storm lantern]

Weighstones asking for a nullstone is madness ( tho it will be in abundance once miners have more knownledge)

[fading bane]

null stone for a weightstone

[oblique trail]

Yeah stone costs are fucked

[runic cypress]

Check the recipe

[oblique trail]

So I'm just gonna use oils regardless

Not gonna pay 5x the price or w/e the spread is rn for a tiny more damage

[edgy widget]

oils are better now at higher item levels anyway

[fading bane]

ye its a oil angle

[edgy widget]

more people use oils too, which means the market will produce more and drive down prices

[runic cypress]

You need fucking 5 null Stones for some artisan profession tools

Lmao

[fading bane]

do you use the dmg proc oil, or the secondary stat one?

[oblique trail]

Blacksmithing in general is just fucked honestly

Secondary stat

[eternal sundial]

Yep

Annoys are bricked

[fading bane]

whenever i make a spark patrons order for blacksmithing. they never put the sanctified alloy. solid 20k+ per craft

[eternal sundial]

Stones are criminal

[storm lantern]

Stats oil

[covert blaze]

oil up i'll be there in 5 minutes

[fading bane]

on wednesday i did my blacksmith patrons

[eternal sundial]

Tools is whatever but it's a trade chat spec

[fading bane]

cost me maybe 140k

[eternal sundial]

Patrons are so evil bro

[oblique trail]

You will never catch me doing those 30k per order patrons

[fading bane]

most of it was the hammer thing that repairs ur gear

[oblique trail]

[fading bane]

did it cos of first craft

[runic cypress]

Patrons legit on some whippet bullshit if they expect me to fork over 30k of mats for 10 acruity

[eternal sundial]

I had a guy ask for 45k sword

Xdd

[storm lantern]

And paying 50g for that

[gaunt moat]

The flask cauldron patron sitting there for 2 weeks straight now

[eternal sundial]

Lmao

[runic cypress]

I'm just selling all my null Stones now while they are worth anything

[storm lantern]

I have the bismuth and ironclaw knowcnledge to get full nullstones, still super rare

NotLikeThis

[frank dawn]

yeah null stones are real dumb atm

[fading bane]

i sent all my knowledge here on my gatherer so i could mine while mounting

[eternal sundial]

Druid diff tbh

[fading bane]

whys it gotta be 60 points tho

cba leveling a druid lmao

[eternal sundial]

I know 3 guys who made druids for this dogshit mining

Used their expac boost

[runic cypress]

tfw can use golem on herbalist so do t have to do that

Based golems

[eternal sundial]

Levelled through mining

[ruby badge]

My favorite crafting order so far

[fading bane]

FUCK THATS TRUE

[eternal sundial]

What even is that

Armor?

[fading bane]

coudlve saved 40 herbalsism knowledge

[fading bane]

i made this one

[ruby badge]

No the hammer to repair stuff

[rich marlin]

best embellishment for fury gonna be ascension

?

[runic cypress]

Skill issue lmao

[fading bane]

Yes

[rich marlin]

okay i saw methods guide had symbiosis

[fading bane]

he mightve made it before u could get ascension

[rich marlin]

but i trust

[oblique trail]

@fading bane yeah no chief you are NOT catching me doing this

[fading bane]

ascension is in the guide

[fading bane]

what does the "To Craft" thing

[rich marlin]

Cool ill roll ascension then thank you 🙂

[oblique trail]

Auctionator

[frank dawn]

to be fair symbiosis and ascension are only a half percent apart

[oblique trail]

Very handy to tell quickly whether or not to /block a patron

[fading bane]

fucking Milhouse Manastorm once sent my a patron

0 mats

[gaunt moat]

You can check the cost and the benefice aswell with it

[fading bane]

and only 10 acuity

[oblique trail]

And wish a lot of bad things joy for them

[fading bane]

woudlve thought he had more riches

[oblique trail]

It's always Millhouse

Swear every order I've gotten from him have been obscene

[frank dawn]

sounds on point

[fading bane]

ive just leveled like every proffesion

to if i ever need anything

i can just make it myself

except weapons

[oblique trail]

The midget keeps asking for enchanting work orders where I have to provide the storm dust every time

[oblique trail]

unplayable

[runic cypress]

I wonder what people will do to farm storm dust

[fading bane]

arent the purple gems like gigacheap aswell

cus of the darkmoon decks

[runic cypress]

Yes

It's like 600 gold

[fading bane]

r1s?

[runic cypress]

They don't have ranks

[oblique trail]

They do

[runic cypress]

You're talking about blasphemite yeah?

[fading bane]

ye i swear i saw ranks

nono

[sick jungle]

1 person talking about decks

[oblique trail]

Refulgent

[fading bane]

the ones from epic gear

[runic cypress]

Oh

[sick jungle]

1 person talking about purple ench crystal

[runic cypress]

Nvm then

[fading bane]

i think i saw them at 100g

which is less than storm dust

[oblique trail]

very cool balance of prices

[south kayak]

Yeah, storm dust is the most expensive disenchant mat for some reason

[runic cypress]

Blasphemite is like dog shit not even worth speccing into Transmutation (which I did)

[clever shore]

which comes before dragon roar or odys fury¿?

[south kayak]

wait it's not lol

[fading bane]

roar

but avatar is before roar

[oblique trail]

If you consider the amount of it you use, it's by far the most expensive

[sick jungle]

because you have to use so much of it

[wind sentinel]

kinda happy I dont have to use champions spear

[sick jungle]

whats wrong with spear

[rigid stirrup]

Not yet

[fading bane]

spear is so much better to use now tho

[runic cypress]

You need it for literally everything or almost everything from enchanting and tailoring

[wind sentinel]

just nota fan of it is all

[south kayak]

Remember DF disenchant mats prices at start? especially resonant crystals? nowhere near this exac, which im glad