#fury

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modest condor
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im pretty sure the only time culling cyclone wins is singletarget

iron portal
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all righty then yellow man, thank you

violet thorn
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for anyone else that plays prot as well, are you guys using the versa embellishment ?

lunar steeple
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simc iss showing to reck/avatar on charge is that right? or do we build to our first enrage then combo

storm rune
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Just base ramp vs slayer empowered BS it looks like 3 targets, though I'm not taking in to account any ramp buffs and slayer is assumed to have fully charged slayer's dominance

slim coral
slim coral
violet thorn
lunar steeple
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yeah the pure ST build no odyns

wind sentinel
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Oh man I’m kinda excited for dracthyr warriors pity the sheath problem still exists

naive sigil
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Fury better than arms in mplus?

reef berry
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Does it matter which weapon i craft?

willow cradle
reef berry
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Axe has bigger gap between numbers

willow cradle
iron portal
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They are all equal

willow cradle
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the average is all that matters

naive sigil
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Doing the most damage I can is me having fun hence why I asked

willow cradle
slim coral
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Nah

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Pick whatever 2 hander you want

reef berry
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thx

arctic portal
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does anyone have the biz bladestorm turn around wa pls? :>

slim coral
slim coral
slim coral
wind sentinel
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Oh shit thanks for reminding me I have to install weakaura again

calm ermine
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Is there any diference on builds/talents if we run embelish on weapon or the lining/versa ones?

slim coral
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Nah

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Atleast to my knowledge

junior gale
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Embellishments are omega low impact this expansion

slim coral
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Sadly

storm rune
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id be impressed if an embellish changed a talent

slim coral
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They should be op

calm ermine
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My heart want lining but mind/math says weapon,,,

slim coral
junior gale
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Ppl constantly stressing out to much about this 1% dps gain

calm ermine
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I raid and m+

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mythic raid

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My not that hardcore...

slim coral
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Then honestly just go weapon

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The double lining is minimal and since you mythic raid focus on that rn

upbeat plume
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is greatswords the crafting spec to go for first to craft a weapon?

upbeat plume
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thank you!

slim coral
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No problem

calm ermine
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Dont go sword

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Go Axe

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FTW

orchid iron
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anybody have a macro for changing equip sets and talents within the same spec, i.e. put on my pvp gear and change to pvp build but stay in Fury

upbeat plume
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lol Im just dipping my toes for the first time into at least being a smalltime crafter for myself so no clue on some of these things lol

slim coral
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The far left node is 1 handers

upbeat plume
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awesome will do, of course when I do this there gonna change the embellishment so its not our bis XD

cosmic sierra
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How do you all sim for AOe/cleave?

agile kestrel
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is there a cap for bountyful delves a day next week?

buoyant salmon
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though simming aoe on fury (and in general) doesnt really matter

agile kestrel
manic pilot
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Is Mountain Thane > Slayer for raids? 😮

storm rune
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for fury? no

manic pilot
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yessir

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Thank you!

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I checked the pins and saw it showing Mountain Thane

slim coral
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It’s an awesome hero class though

spare steppe
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Mountain thane is great for prot and looks wonderful

slim coral
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I do wish slayer had actual visuals like thane but what can you do

manic pilot
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Yeah, is there a Talent tree pin in the Discord for Slayer?

slim coral
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Well not a pin but a channel called dps-faq

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It has all the info you need

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It’s right under protection

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One day I’ll remember how to link channels

vague fern
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Fury is just better than arms atm right? In M+ and raid

slim coral
slim coral
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But I think fury will be better due to its cds in raid and the design of fights

vague fern
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Ahh okay

eternal sundial
dapper goblet
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baze for stormforged

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but keep him perma muted

fickle bluff
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new role just for buhsac and funkykitty that limits them to off topic

slim coral
glass kelp
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hey guys, do i sim m+ through Dslice or patchwerk 5+ bosses ?

slim coral
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Neither

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Just sim 1 target patchwork

slender coral
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So I'm 589 ilevel. What am I doing wrong? I've seen people with lower ilevel pull more damage.

I'm very new to this, so I appreciate any help you can give me. Thanks!

junior gale
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Fury ST is Fury aoe

slim coral
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Also it's heroic dungeons

junior gale
slim coral
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I would not judge your damage based off anything out atm

slender coral
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So I'm not missing anything? Just hit the rotation as usual and ignore any doubts based on others' numbers?

slim coral
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At the moment yes

slender coral
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Okay, so hit mythics then look to adjust.

slim coral
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Well it still depends

junior gale
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even in M+

slim coral
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like pull count alone

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effects damage

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for example

junior gale
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you can play exactly the same in the same key and your overall will be different

next canopy
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What max for coffee keys rn?

slender coral
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I switched from Thane to Slayer. I'm doing about the same amount of damage overall. Slayer just does more on single target. I might switch back.

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I appreciate the help. I'm sure I'll be back in a few weeks!

unreal shell
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If want to see if you're pushing your buttons right then go to the dummy and compare that to the sim

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If it's close to the sim, you're pushing good buttons, if it's lower you're pushing bad buttons

slender coral
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How do I sim my stuff?

slim coral
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1 target 5 min patchwork

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also make sure it's on latest

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not weekly

summer crater
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And make sure you don't have all the raid buffs which is the default

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If you want to compare to the dummy damage

unreal shell
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Smart

junior gale
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you can set the sim to dummy

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and not patchwerk

exotic glacier
unreal shell
exotic glacier
covert blaze
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you get keys from rep and pvp wqs and shit so not really a specific number

north siren
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can someone help me figure something out on my buddy's sim?

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he ran droptimizer and it is telling him his trinkets could be replaced, but hes wearing the trinkets on both the wowhead and IV guides

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is the sim correct or is something broken?

slim pollen
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I'm at 14 with 2 from early, 2 from shards and i believe 2 from renown

eternal sundial
modest condor
eternal sundial
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and 482 is still "shit" when u need 50 more ilvls

modest condor
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you cant expect to get the same results if your gear is completely different

north siren
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got it

storm rune
north siren
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makes sense

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thanks guys!

modest condor
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it's why people are very against just giving straight up answers to questions like "what gear should i use"

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it all depends on what you have right now

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and the only real answer is sim it

north siren
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but makes sense

storm rune
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because a 5min ST encounter doesn't exist, so we don't suggest gear for that level of content when it's not currently available

modest condor
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i mean it can be as simple as a trinket that gives mastery being less valuable for you if you happen to have a lot of mastery already

dusk vault
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do we craft 2h first week ?

storm rune
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no

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well you can, but we're suggesting to wait until an assumed post heroic week patch comes out

serene vessel
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chat is the crushing force change a buff?

viral jasper
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Maybe eventually?

storm rune
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yes

viral jasper
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It is such a small change it doesnt matter anyway

modest condor
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idk is getting more crit a buff?

slender coral
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Okay, I've run a few sims and compared it to my dummy damage in-game. It keeps showing Bladestorm as my top damaging ability in the sims, but it's like 3rd in-game. I pop recklessness and avatar, then rampage, and then BS. Is that not the correct sequence, or is the sim just weird?

viral jasper
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It swapped from crit to crit damage

serene vessel
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so its a change

storm rune
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it's like a .2% overall gain or something?

viral jasper
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Silm skim reading

winter shoal
summer crater
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Me with my 7% crit

restive peak
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You're running a 1m sim

slender coral
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OH right lol

wind sentinel
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is SMF far off from Tgrip for fury?

fickle bluff
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~5%

slender coral
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Let's try it again.

wind sentinel
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in favor of tgrip I assume?

next canopy
eternal sundial
wind sentinel
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Bleh thats gonna make dracthyr fury warrior a little annoying because of the wings

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blah

slender coral
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5min sim, still #1 damage source.

restive peak
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Show

modest condor
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sims have unhinged (and reap procs from those unhinged) listed under bladestorm

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and this is why i dont like it when they do that

covert blaze
slender coral
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Ooooh, okay. That makes some sense.

covert blaze
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i think that's the philosophy behind the change @serene vessel

restive peak
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That would explain that, 6.5% of that dmg isn't actually bs

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Oh this is AM as well

modest condor
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that's not 17% damage from bladestorm, that's 12% damage from bladestorm, 4.5% from bt and 1% from reap

covert blaze
viral jasper
slender coral
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Appreciate the help, again!

summer crater
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My number one is crushing blow by far

wind sentinel
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Oh no I prefer the non visage stuff it makes mogging more challenging

viral jasper
sharp kernel
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guys tell me hows futyu doing single target

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fury*

wind sentinel
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Might wanna reread what I typed lol

junior gale
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fury does ST by pressing buttons

wind sentinel
viral jasper
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Ya what you said doesnt really make sense, you want dragon form but not wings i guess?

covert blaze
wind sentinel
viral jasper
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See that is where you lost me bc i feel like most people dont like dracthyr lol

wind sentinel
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I like the ..challenge of making a mog work for them tbh

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point in case @viral jasper

serene vessel
covert blaze
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you can get crit chance from a lot of things but not crit damage

rotund ginkgo
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fury gamers

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is this a cook?

covert blaze
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looks good

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for a paladin

rotund ginkgo
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yes. i am a paladin of physical prowess.

subtle cypress
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SMF is still garbage ya?

wind sentinel
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when does fury start to pull ahead of arms for leveling purposes?

covert blaze
rotund ginkgo
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if ur playing for fun and really arent pushing any important content but u want SMF for fun go ahead

rotund ginkgo
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if ur doing any remotely minmaxed content ur just trolling

covert blaze
rotund ginkgo
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random bgs or skirmish for honor farm

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hmmge

winter shoal
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Are we talking 70-80 leveling or 1-80?

wind sentinel
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oh really not umm. slayer?

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1-80

winter shoal
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Fury doesn't get rampage or imp ww for a LONG time

rotund ginkgo
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i mean 70-80 it rly doesnt matter

winter shoal
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So it's kinda ass

rotund ginkgo
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1-33 go arms

covert blaze
rotund ginkgo
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i mean

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doesnt matter does it

covert blaze
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doesnt matter at all honestly

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no it doesnt

rotund ginkgo
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but if u wanna play fury leveling

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do 1-33 arms

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do i do random bgs or skirmish for honor farm

junior gale
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just go neither and lvl purely through exploration!

covert blaze
wind sentinel
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technically I guess I could but +200% of crap is still crap xp lol

rotund ginkgo
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grab mining

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and start digging

junior gale
dense elbow
wind sentinel
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yeah it doesnt quite have that Im a strong warrior vibe to it

covert blaze
dense elbow
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They got the lean, but not mean part of it.

coarse karma
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is it always worth it to use crushing blow over bloodbath, even in AoE where there is a chance for reap the storm to proc?

wind sentinel
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thats why im enjoying earthen so much its got all the fun of dwarf but with literal rock hard abs

dense elbow
coarse karma
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ah so CB>BB>RB>BT?

wind sentinel
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Like whats not to love

rotund ginkgo
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real

coarse karma
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what about sudden death proc in slayer? is that prio over rampage/CB?

sour tundra
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what will be the easiest delve to spam come Tuesday to get level 8 loot

junior gale
wind sentinel
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it needs the hole sadly lol

pallid tangle
junior gale
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if only hunters could turn their pet into anduin somehow

viral jasper
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No chussy

pale radish
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Is there a list of the pre S1 BiS to get ?

junior gale
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wowhead

wind sentinel
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yeah im not a fan of arms im going back to fury even if its less single target the aoe is more fun

rotund ginkgo
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average gameplay

wind sentinel
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(for leveling imean)

rotund ginkgo
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again

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shotzo

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for leveling

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as long as ur above 33

wind sentinel
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yeah i know

rotund ginkgo
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play whichever

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under 33 fury just feels ass

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no improved whirlwind

wind sentinel
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Im not 33 yet but even if it feels like ass its still more fun than arms

warm crag
rotund ginkgo
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:3

pale radish
rotund ginkgo
spare steppe
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Sounds chill

rotund ginkgo
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we lost :3

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my monk wasnt geared :3

wind sentinel
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Oh man I totally forgot monks existed

rotund ginkgo
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this was in the first like 5/10s

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I LOVE FROST MAGES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

buoyant salmon
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real ones level in pvp and abuse mark of honor gear

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only thing you have to avoid is geared warlocks bc they are fucking impossible to kill

junior gale
wind sentinel
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hmm I gotta change my earthen buff to mastery

pale radish
naive sigil
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Good race for fury Mplus?

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And when can I be a dragon warrior

wind sentinel
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Mountain Thane looks so much more interesting than slayer :[

rotund ginkgo
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dragon/nelf

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bis

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for m+

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end of story

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dwarf 2nd i guess

coarse karma
covert blaze
arctic mulch
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Could you tell me please where in this discord i find some information about rotation in ST and on Aoe.Please help cause i thought that i do stu wrong

wind sentinel
lyric saddle
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I don’t want to be a dragon but the human form is sick

wind sentinel
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Im not so sure how important glide will be to warrior because of heroic leap but like.. Hey its still nice

unreal shell
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No way I'm giving up being an orc to be an ugly lizard

wind sentinel
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im on the fence tbh

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if earthen really doesnt do it for me ill play around with dracthyr

lyric saddle
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blood elf master race

unreal onyx
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just like dh

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pretty good imo

wind sentinel
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agreed

orchid dagger
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Also you can use Glide's slight height gain to leap up higher

keen pier
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I need your guys opinion.

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Am i ready for raid opening?

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Second Trinket is a bit shit, but im open for suggestions on your side

rotund ginkgo
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ctf style maps are so fun when the enemy team is 4 rogues and a bear :3

brittle crow
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i love bears

rotund ginkgo
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i dont when its ctf and he just deer forms with the flag

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across my 8 teammates

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and they just :3 him

brittle crow
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just wait til a demon hunter climbs up to a high spot and lagswitches across the map

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life changing event

rotund ginkgo
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or me getting tanks on my team in 2s/3s

brittle crow
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what happened to ppl complaining about fighting tanks..

rotund ginkgo
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dont worry we won

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i did enough damaeg

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surv/dh/pala

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the healer pala thought it'd be a good idea to sac the surv hunter

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all 3 on me

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while i pop opener

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luckily dh wasnt geared tho

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:3

orchid dagger
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But yeah tanks are fine

bitter palm
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they take way too mcuh damage and dont deal any

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real

rotund ginkgo
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like legit

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if its a 2v2

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ill just get jumped by the two dps

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and get 2shot

shrewd drum
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guys does the dot buff from roar capstone updates dynamically our bleed damage or we need to cast roar before OF?

rotund ginkgo
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while the tank just sniffs fent

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behind the pillar

bitter palm
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pvp players

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cinema

rotund ginkgo
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nah

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its

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100% of the time its probably a tank player doing pvp for xmog or some dubm shit

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or "to try it out"

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like that tank warr i just had, had half pvp half pve gear

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if ur a pvp player by now you'd be FULL pvp gear

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is farmable in a day or two

orchid dagger
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Very little snapshots anymore

open prairie
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feral is one of the few specs that does i think

orchid dagger
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Yeah but ferals aren't people

open prairie
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they have good mogs

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but like 75% of them are moonguard edaters

orchid dagger
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You mean furry form

open prairie
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which negates the good

unreal onyx
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since I don't farm heroic I got this trinket at 580, haven't compared it to others but the proc sounds good

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especially in world content

open prairie
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you didnt get stonevault trinket in 3 runs?

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skill issue tbh

unreal onyx
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I didn't do stonevault 3 times

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i think

open prairie
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i just random queued

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as prot

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i think i’ve only done one dungeon as fury in tww launch

unreal onyx
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instead of 53

open prairie
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yeah but it doesnt grant to you

unreal onyx
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in solo content it does

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aka 80% of content I do rn since I don't think I would need to do any heroics if I am capped on crests already

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in solo it grants you 3177 mastery

brittle crow
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i only queue as prot lol

rotund ginkgo
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I HATE KARMA I HATE KARMA I HATE KARMA

open prairie
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mfw i outdamage the actual dps

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and im not even playing colossus

smoky vale
rotund ginkgo
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hi gio :3

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this guy had a vendetta

wheat estuary
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has anyone done the mage tower challenge yet this xpac?

warm crag
clever belfry
warm crag
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and spongeuwu is tactically being held at level 79 so i cannot be asked to exist in a split

clever belfry
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her2

cloud timber
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is the nerubian 584 renown trinket good to use?

edgy widget
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say goodbye to your little friend @restive peak

warm crag
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fuuuuck!!!

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was so excited to play the geararang launcher the entire tier

grizzled shard
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i was just looking at the raid builds for slayer, is there a reason we dont run onslaught anymore out of curiosity?

junior gale
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because it does less numbers than the new build

keen forum
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Why use extra button when fewer button do trick

delicate yacht
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Are you guys all swapping to dracthyr?

trim canyon
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I would never betray my dwarven heritage.

cedar garden
trim canyon
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Sure dracthyr can fly, but dwarves can be tossed.

junior gale
wind sentinel
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Hrm sword or axe?

delicate yacht
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Can visage form have transmog ?

wind sentinel
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Yup visage form is fully transmogable

delicate yacht
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Okay good . And warrior is always in visage form ?

wind sentinel
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its the dracthyr form thats just shoulders/belt /tabard

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I think its choice you can enable always visage if you want

edgy widget
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short weapon for a short race 🤝

carmine hawk
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@rotund ginkgo I've finished kengan what else you got about questionably dressed guys beating each other

summer quail
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I assume you've seen Baki?

wind sentinel
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manga is better but yeah ❤️

carmine hawk
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yup

summer quail
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seen record of ragnarok?

carmine hawk
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yup

wind sentinel
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Oh shit they amde an anime out of that?

summer quail
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ye

carmine hawk
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I was thinking about hajime no ippo but its kinda old

summer quail
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has like 2 seasons atm

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hajime no ippo owns

carmine hawk
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And looks too normal

torn meteor
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pre-bis is basically "take your highest ilvl gear"?

junior gale
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yes

winter shoal
fickle bluff
edgy widget
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SkarShard is also competitive in multitarget, though it won't sim well for obvious reasons

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You can probably prioritize it over Mark for most Mythic+, but they're close enough that isn't a big difference if you decide you want more burst and less throughput

winter shoal
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Word, thanks

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I knew the gear-a-rang sims seemed sus

edgy widget
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tbf it was a very obscure issue; two other SimC maintainers also looked at it and couldn't find any issue - the damage checked out, the amount of uses were correct, everything looked fine

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and my own tests came back without issue until @modest condor said something innocuous about the number of procs he was getting as Fury, which led me to find the issue

winter shoal
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Btw are you guys crafting weapons next week or waiting til mythic week?

edgy widget
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depends, but probably wait till Mythic if you don't think Heroic is going to be a major hurdle for your guild

junior gale
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waiting till first boss on mythic is dead

edgy widget
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the main question is whether we'll get a free Enchanted Crest this time around - in Dragonflight, there was as "kill the end boss" quest which awarded one, and we think there will be this time as well, but it has not been confirmed yet

winter shoal
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I mean chances are pretty low my guild gets AOTC in heroic week I think

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We raid tues/wed too

edgy widget
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and without that free crest, crafting a weapon is a very inefficient use of resources

winter shoal
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Can spark craft it to 606 then recraft with gilded crests, no?

edgy widget
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Yeah, but if you get better weapons somewhere, it's kind of a waste

delicate yacht
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Oh I didn't realize dracythr racial gives 2.5% mastery

edgy widget
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ideally, you want to use the free crest to craft it to heroic item level - even if you loot a better weapon, you're unlikely to get two, so it can go in your offhand

  • once you have enough crests, you can upgrade it to mythic item level

if we don't get a free crest though, you're probably best waiting until you can just craft it at mythic item level directly (especially if you also intend to use it as Arms?)

winter shoal
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I was thinking spark craft to 606, recraft with gilded crests, use the free wyrm crest on the embellished wrists

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Idk if that's cooked though

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I have the week of the 17th off to farm m+ but I'm not sure about heroic week

edgy widget
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honestly the wrists can be any item level, the embellishment value doesn't change, so all you're getting is slightly more stats on a low budget piece

winter shoal
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Yeah good point

edgy widget
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plus you won't have a spark for wrists till Mythic week 2 anyway, so you'll wanna craft the embellishment on a 590 blue bracer for the time being

winter shoal
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Was gonna rock 590 embellished wrists next week

edgy widget
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correct, but that means you have 3 more weeks to get more crests

winter shoal
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For the wrists you mean?

edgy widget
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yeah

winter shoal
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Makes sense

edgy widget
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you can't use the free Runed crest on it, because you don't have a spark

winter shoal
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True

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Wrists are the lowest statted piece we can put the double down embellish on right?

edgy widget
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wrists/cloak, yes

lavish scroll
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if you cast rampage and you are not enraged. does your rampage get the enrage buff of dmg still?

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idk if that made sense

modest condor
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yes

lavish scroll
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cause often times im just running out of enrage and i cast rampage when its gone

clever belfry
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would be truely cringe if not

lavish scroll
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ooo ok ty guys

edgy widget
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Rampage benefits from its own Enrage yes, Bloodthirst does not

lavish scroll
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thank you very much

wind sentinel
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Hm for wpvp/bgs do you think fury or arms is better if i DONT have a pocket healer

lusty jungle
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Fury 200% arms get rekt by everything

full viper
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Is it too late to come back now ? Or still in time to raid tomorrow?

lusty jungle
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Too late for what

clever belfry
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raid is not tomorrow

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Also youre well fine

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leveling is 4-5h if you're not a snail

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then u just fly through some balls and craft 590

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2h

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Done

full viper
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Okay. Might have to take a day off work to power up

clever belfry
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unless u have a group set up for release

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why rush it

storm rune
lusty jungle
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Raid reset is still a week long

clever belfry
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you got a whole week for normal/hc

full viper
#

Yeah i think my old guild raids on reset

clever belfry
oblique trail
steady wharf
#

where can I find code for simming different consumables on raidbots all at once?

clever belfry
#

maybe he is eepy and go to sleepy

oblique trail
clever belfry
#

real kings buy what is cheapest

#

same blud

#

same

rotund ginkgo
#

ah, what a lovely visual bug

#

if only that were true

#

🥲

wind sentinel
#

whetstones dont override enchantments right??

oblique trail
#

Correct

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It's just a temporary bonus

clever belfry
#

id defo buy oil over stone tho

wind sentinel
#

sweet

clever belfry
#

theyre same same and cost much less

rotund ginkgo
#

did any of yall use them carved crests?

clever belfry
#

not yet

#

u can probs send most m0 to 606 tho

#

keep a few for tier pieces

rotund ginkgo
#

wont they be semi obsolete next week though?

clever belfry
#

is it 606 or 600 i forgor

rotund ginkgo
#

uh

#

606 i think

clever belfry
#

just send a chunk beforr splits imo

rotund ginkgo
#

i can make my helmet 606 rn

clever belfry
#

Keep enough to uppie potential wep or tier

#

tldr

rotund ginkgo
#

just not sure what to do rn

oblique trail
#

log out

#

andw ait till wed

rotund ginkgo
#

i mean

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im spamming honor

clever belfry
#

log out

rotund ginkgo
#

im capped on valor

#

nothing to spend it on unless i use carved

warm crag
#

i will actually instantly craft a spark item at 8:00 in the morning

clever belfry
#

lol not capped on honor

rotund ginkgo
#

i bought honor items :3

clever belfry
#

same

rotund ginkgo
#

i didnt play the comp stomp

#

;((

#

i heard it was legit free

clever belfry
warm crag
#

@clever belfry

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i think the lore is

clever belfry
#

But i won't do it

#

i dont think

fading bane
#

u can craft a 2h with crest ig

warm crag
#

tomorrow we congregate and achieve victory in a battleground of epic proportions?

fading bane
#

but why would u

clever belfry
fading bane
#

withot i mean

clever belfry
#

this loses you hc crests

fading bane
#

typo

clever belfry
#

Without yes

rotund ginkgo
#

me at 3.6k honor and not full honor gear

fading bane
#

cus u just make it mythic next week

warm crag
#

isnt w/o crest capped at 590

#

or u mean spark 2h

fading bane
#

606 i think

#

with spark

warm crag
clever belfry
#

606 ye

warm crag
#

surely you will need adaptation

crimson bay
#

so do helms, bracers, and belts still proc sockets or is it just jewelry now?

clever belfry
#

then u recraft myth week

fading bane
#

proccing on jewelry just saves u gold now

clever belfry
clever belfry
fading bane
#

ppl got the recipe already from some bag of ores

clever belfry
#

wish that was me

fading bane
#

but it sells for way more than it costs to craft atm

clever belfry
#

i would do so much gambling

warm crag
clever belfry
#

until im poor again

clever belfry
#

her???

warm crag
#

give your money to ehr

#

evil sticker

#

@solemn plover

clever belfry
#

where were u when arm was kil

warm crag
#

at the frontlines killing it

clever belfry
#

i was at home eating chip

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i get call

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"ms nerf, arm is kil"

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"no"

warm crag
#

you should perhaps umm go do p1 and p2?

fading bane
clever belfry
warm crag
#

what if i just asked again?

clever belfry
warm crag
#

point taken

clever belfry
#

this would be you

restive peak
oblique trail
clever belfry
#

Me when a game has numbers

warm crag
#

curious?

fickle bluff
warm crag
#

used for good

fickle bluff
#

yeah and?

#

i wanna post her too

oblique trail
warm crag
bitter palm
covert blaze
clever belfry
rotund ginkgo
#

do i just send crafts on alt to be 580?

rotund ginkgo
#

anda

fickle bluff
#

why 580

rotund ginkgo
#

thats what my RL asked

#

580 for splits

fickle bluff
#

chatting the crafts are 590 right

clever belfry
#

590 bro

brittle crow
#

is dungeon spam best way to fill up to 2k valorstones

fickle bluff
#

get digging

rotund ginkgo
#

@clever belfry

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well im 563

oblique trail
#

zionix

brittle crow
#

wax doesnt actually fill ur valorstone resevoir much its only good for extra.......

oblique trail
#

can you review my kokomi

clever belfry
#

ok go fly through some balls

clever belfry
fickle bluff
#

then craft as many 590s as you can

clever belfry
#

Im top1 kokomi and u banezor???

oblique trail
#

I'm top 0 (I don't have it)

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it being her

oblique trail
#

objectified a person

clever belfry
#

fisch

woeful token
#

is our gcd 1.5s?

clever belfry
fickle bluff
#

increased by haste up to 0.75s

clever belfry
#

haste makes it faster however

clever belfry
calm quartz
#

who is she

hardy cargo
fickle bluff
clever belfry
calm quartz
#

hee hee

clever belfry
#

her transcends the order of things

fickle bluff
clever belfry
#

her exists outside the boundaries set by mere mortals

clever belfry
#

i said i wouldnt do renown shit, so i didnt :),

harsh dew
warm crag
#

@clever belfry

clever belfry
#

Seven

#

sqrt(49)

plucky wedge
#

I see the bis trinket changed in the wowhead guide, are we thinking the on use is going to be less troll?

twilit narwhal
#

quick question, I haven't played fury seriously since BFA, I remember that Whirlwind was our filler for all cases, but I was checking it's damage without any whirlwind AOE talent and it does half the damage vs Slam (considering both take 1 GCD, should Slam replace Whirlwind in strictly ST scenarios now?

half cargo
#

🧎‍♂️

oblique trail
#

Otherwise WW is just the default ST filler since while it doesn't do as much damage, it does generate Rage

twilit narwhal
oblique trail
#

If you're fighting 2+ targets and you need to press a filler, you're gonna be having Improved WW talented

#

But no, 2+ targets you press WW (if you don't have it for some reason)

clever belfry
#

or the target is so useless that u don't care

warm crag
#

wrong letter and since i use qwertz i look racist maybe idk

fickle bluff
clever belfry
warm crag
clever belfry
#

zora

#

Legend of Zelda ref???

storm rune
covert blaze
covert blaze
clever belfry
#

its absolutely not 10min

#

not even when its hallowfall

brittle crow
#

yea more like 7-8

clever belfry
#

Stop coping

restive peak
#

Are we talking 0 to cap or the 90 on reset? The 90 is like 10m

warm crag
#

i think we should ban people for every lie they post

restive peak
#

No shot the entire 300/400 is lol

warm crag
#

it would give me some free time

covert blaze
#

ok redditors

meager void
#

just do it like minority report

covert blaze
#

i might have lost track of time on the alt i did 0 to 270

#

think it was the 5th one

#

the cap mightve been 180 back then

#

maybe i am lying and losing my mind

warm crag
#

thai please stop digging your grave further..

oblique trail
#

Why would you lie on the discord

#

Timeout would be warranted

edgy widget
covert blaze
storm rune
storm rune
#

Ew, didn't realize that was an AI faceswap that's better

tranquil arrow
#

When it comes to choosing weapons, do we want weapons with a higher high-end damage cap (and lower low-end) or do we want one that's more balanced? And why?

spare steppe
#

So it doesn’t matter

tranquil arrow
#

So it's weapon dps that matters, not the damage range?

tranquil arrow
#

Cool, thanks

thick fossil
storm rune
#

NA was actively trying to destroy the image of Mario in the 80s

#

My personal conspiracy theory

dreamy flume
#

anyone got link to pre-raid bis list? cant find any

gusty cloak
#

what we crafting first?

storm rune
#

dinner

junior gale
#

crafting the fattest blunt rn

subtle pagoda
#

Noob question there, is there a reason to Rampage before losing Enrages? Perhaps it is worth cause it increases rampages damages, or should I wait the end of it?

smoky vale
storm rune
#

rampage is still a good damage dealer

subtle pagoda
#

I'll consider that as a yes

#

Thanks

storm rune
#

Just follow the prio list, can't go wrong with listening to the guide

spare steppe
subtle pagoda
#

That's the thing, the rotation/prio list only says to use "Rampage if Enrage is not active", so I'm wondering if it's worth using Rampage in the last second of Enrage to enhance its damages as well

nimble ermine
#

rampage already gets the dmg bonus from its own enrage

subtle pagoda
#

Oh that's neat, thanks !

meager void
#

i dont think enrage generally falls off during your rotation

nimble ermine
#

only bloodthirst doesnt get the benefit from its own enrage

storm rune
edgy widget
polar fulcrum
#

What is the easiest Delve to complete on tuesday for level 8 gear?

steady wharf
#

I've been hitting the dummy and there are times during execute when I'll double raging blow, get to or above 110 range, get rage caped, and then execute (rage capped) and then rampage again. seems like wasted rage

lunar steeple
#

needing 4 sparks to craft two weps sucks

slim coral
#

Real

slim coral
#

It’s overhated

restive peak
slim coral
restive peak
#

The delve closest to you on login lewl

warped bone
#

Are the fastest ones according to reddit

#

Remember to lvl your delve to T8 before doing your bountiful ones

runic violet
#

what's "bountiful"

warped bone
#

The ones that need the keys to open big chest at the end

#

Should be visible on map

runic violet
#

ah icic

sharp tartan
#

Tazocins guide to Bountiful Delves
(Super secret don’t share with enemy guilds)

You can run 4 a day, we all know this.

The bountiful status of a delve will be consumed when you finish it for that day. This means if you do a bountiful delve to unlock a higher level (say do a level 6 bountiful delve), the bountiful status of that delve will be consumed for the day. So while you’re unlocking tier 8, do it on the non bountiful delves only.

To get to tier 8 delves, the quickest ones to spam are Tak Rethan Abyss, The Waterworks, Sinkhole, or Kriegval’s Rest. You can spam the same delve to unlock all the way to tier 8.

There is no downside or cost to doing delves in a group. The loot from the bountiful chest at the end of a bountiful delve is personal loot. There is no cost or downside to running them in a group vs running them solo.

In a group, you will only get one Brann. It will be the group leaders Brann, so make whoever has the strongest Brann the group leader. Everyone else’s Brann will still get Xp as though they were in the delve.
When you use a key at the end of a bountiful delve, you will get a quest starting item called a Radiant Echo. When you accept this quest, it should give a world event on your map. The world event will be a timed event where you just kill mobs. The more mobs you kill, the more key fragments you will get. If you’re in a party, you will share mob kill credit, so to min max key fragments, do this in a 5 man group. It’s unclear yet if you can do this with a raid group, or party group only. It’s also unclear how many times you can get a radiant echo quest per week, but it seems you can get 4 a day if you do them between bountiful delves. People are getting upwards of 50 key fragments from these so they’re for sure worth doing.

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If you have a radiant echos quest already and do your second bountiful delve, you won’t be able to start another one. This means that each time you use a key on a bountiful delve, you should do the radiant echo world event before doing another bountiful delve.

Radiant echos events will also give valorstones, not sure how much, but it’s a good reason to not spend globs of wax or be at cap when doing them.

If you die 5 times in a delve (t8 bountiful) you won’t be able to finish it for a bountiful chest. You won’t however, lose the bountiful status of that delve for the day, or lose your key, so you can leave and retry as many times as you want.

There is no ilvl requirement for each delve difficulty. The tooltip will recommend ilvl 600 for a tier 8 delve, however a tank or melee dps can easily solo t8s on the ptr, and a 5 man group should be able to steamroll them.

The treasures inside bountiful delves seem to have a pretty high chance to drop Profaned Tinderboxes. These are a crafting reagent that sell for 6k right now. So it's worth looting treasures in the bountifuls where you can.

If anyone else has any useful factoids on delving, please share

runic violet
#

damn man

sharp tartan
#

Thought I'd share this here with you fine gentlemen

sharp tartan
#

Warriors together stronk

warped bone
#

That's a big wall when on mobilepeepostudy

runic violet
#

so.. 600 for t8

warped bone
#

No tool tip recommend that. Not needed

sharp tartan
#

600 is the blizz recomended. A skilled melee player will steamroll an 8 solo in 585 gear

runic violet
#

I have discord on my vertical monitor. That posted the entire screen. nice

delicate yacht
#

Weren't people steam rolling 8s at like 590 and lower on ptr

warped bone
#

Mm

sharp tartan
runic violet
#

I can see blizzard making delve pretty easy and accessible.

#

If you are a skilled player... it should be easy

#

It's a content for casual players

sharp tartan
sharp tartan
covert blaze
#

I wouldn't be surprised if delves are poorly tuned/bugged/exploitable on release since it's a new system

calm ermine
#

You guys simming Honey Buzeer trinket? Always showing on top here...

covert blaze
#

that trinket is not in the dungeon rotation + it sucks to use

mint abyss
#

How do u position yourself better when theres just groups of mobs together?

#

I feel like im always just in them or too far

karmic crow
#

in DF fury's haste sweet spot was like 35%. is that still the case?

past pivot
eternal lance
wind sentinel
#

does rampage count as one attack for improved whirlwind?

modest condor
#

yes

warped bone
#

God how frustrating would it be if it ate all charges xD

oblique raft
vital mesa
#

is it really better to drop onslaught for ST? i know thats waht Wowhead now says, but i feel like we are missing a filler 2nd cd juicer @edgy widget

junior gale
#

In the machine god we trust

spare steppe
#

It’s what brought SD back to us too

frozen portal
#

should i be using a coffer key to get the world soul memory to acquire a spark so i can craft the 2 hander?

junior gale
#

no

runic cypress
lilac ingot
#

how does execute fit into the rotation now priority wise? we take sudden death so i assume more than a low prio filler?

#

maybe not tho

frozen portal
#

so were just chilling for min max on the keys

#

i guess my question is, wouldnt it be worth to get the bis offhand now before week 2?

runic cypress
#

Yes literally no reason to use them now

frozen portal
#

is over

wind sentinel
#

I gotta go eat a mastery gem bleh

spare steppe
frozen portal
#

thats the wrinkle i dont quite understand

runic cypress
#

Fury bis is in grim batol

spare steppe
#

The wowhead prio guide doesn’t change with us picking up SD

frozen portal
#

wowhead says the crafted is better than wild hammer?

#

for OH

runic violet
#

what yall get from ST dummy?

spare steppe
junior gale
#

theres not much reason to craft before mythic week

spare steppe
frozen portal
#

should i craft anything now then with my 1 spark

somber sun
#

I wouldn't.

spare steppe
#

Not worth it

#

This week is a test of patience

frozen portal
#

roger

#

i shall holld

#

ty!

runic cypress
#

I hope they change embellishments during the maintenance

warped bone
#

diamond hands!

runic cypress
#

I know so many people who already had their shit crafted

frozen portal
#

r yall fuggin with mountain thane more for M+ or slayer aoe

#

they both feel strong

runic violet
#

I just don't want to TC :0

runic cypress
#

No one has been to a m+ yet to test it out

junior gale
#

I mean

#

beta existed

runic cypress
#

Yeah I had 300 ping during that and it's not like things changed since then

junior gale
#

theres not gonna be any surprise MT tech I can tell you that

#

unless tuning changes things next week

spare steppe
#

MT isn’t better than slayer unfortunately

frozen portal
#

from the guides it sounds like slayer is better rn overall, mountain thane maybe just for some heavier aoe or to switch it up

runic cypress
#

Me praying that ret and DK get nerfed so I don't have so many plate users to compete with

spare steppe
#

Nothing against slayer, I just love TC for some reason

frozen portal
#

TC is so fun

spare steppe
frozen portal
#

not sustaind tho no?

#

like slayer much higher burst but some downtime

thick fossil
#

Hell I'm still in 441 gear.

runic violet
#

only way I go thane is that TC cats rends

runic cypress
dusty cove
#

has relentless pursuit had an internal CD this whole time? or is that a recent change?

thick fossil
runic cypress
#

Why not

#

You gotta play wow every day

dense elbow
thick fossil
runic cypress
dense elbow
runic cypress
dense elbow
#

To be fair, those are great adds that should be refined to great experiences

thick fossil
#

Trying hard to get a yacht like Bobby?

runic cypress
#

Ion is doing his best you monsters

#

Stop making fun of his game

wind sentinel
#

Oh my I found the perfect mace for my Fury warrior

dense elbow
#

1/10

wind sentinel
#

wrong channel mb

runic cypress
#

I hate this

thick fossil
dense elbow
#

Ain't in transmog channel, so we get to say it is shit

wind sentinel
#

shrug

runic cypress
#

I'm just gonna wait for m+ and raid gear before I start transmogin

#

I'm not giving those shady ethereals nothing

dense elbow
#

Only transmog I want from next season is evoker elite PvP mog

wind sentinel
#

psh I have funded thousands into my grummles lol

runic cypress
#

All they do is take your money and sleep in front of the cheese vendors

#

Lazy good for nothing grummels

#

Varian shoulda have build a wall around pandaria

dense elbow
#

He tried, but he got pushed off his airship to certain doom by Gwenzie before it was put into motion

#

Furriez united

runic cypress
velvet obsidian
runic cypress
#

Slave to fashion

#

Smh

simple quest
#

Just to make sure, in our opener/rotation, we use the full duration of BS and don't interrupt it correct?

dense elbow
#

Ya don't cancel BS, this be correct

#

Spin to win

simple quest
#

ty

fickle bluff
#

You get the speed every time though

polar fulcrum
#

What is the highest item level we can craft now? 593?

vivid lagoon
#

I think it’s 606

hasty pagoda
#

590 or 606 with the spark

dense elbow
#

593 is fully upgraded HC gear

runic cypress
#

Which frankly is better then any of the 590 crafted gear but despite this I got paid 50k to make 10 crests for some guy

sudden tusk
#

45 crests to get to 590 from 580 vs 30 from crafting

#

its a massive save overall

runic cypress
#

But you don't need those crests at all come next week

vivid lagoon
#

I spent all my crest already

#

I got myself up to 591

runic cypress
#

I'm not complaining I hope more people need crests made and pay me to make them

dense elbow
#

I am 580 PvP geared and happy gladge

modest condor
#

im glad to hear that

dense elbow
#

Ready for m+ week peepoHappy

runic cypress
#

If I would do PvP I'd try to sell the PvP recipes for big moneys

vivid lagoon
#

I can keep 1m dmg/s now with my gear I can’t wait to get my hands on that tier

dense elbow
#

You doing 1m ST? Dang

steady wharf
#

best I can sustain on a dummy is 640

dense elbow
#

I am falling behind

runic cypress
vivid lagoon
#

Dummy I can sustain 870k

#

Oh yeah I don’t care about gear raid anymore wow is not like before lol

#

It’s so much so much easier now to get gear

dense elbow
#

I am around 500-550k atm, so neat to know my fam will almost double in a week of m+ peepoBlush

steady wharf
#

870 how,. am I bad?

runic cypress
#

M+ isn't coming out this week

vivid lagoon
#

I remember when I play wotlk and cataclysm it was super hard to get gear

dense elbow
#

I forgot

runic cypress
dense elbow
modest condor
#

mole people unite

steady wharf
#

is this breakdown cursed?

dense elbow
#

Surprised to see BB on top, for sure

vivid lagoon
calm ermine
#

Weapon enchant 5% kek

runic cypress
#

I'm gonna delve so hard people gonna call me baby Jessica

vivid lagoon
#

You need this trinket it’s super broken

#

Most of the time I get 4m dmg with this trinket

steady wharf
#

will try simming it. running shard and sac atm

runic cypress
#

Hehehehhehebebe sac

simple quest
#

Damn I’m really bad I’m high 500’s with no food, pots, enchants etc. maybe I’m doing something wrong

dense elbow
#

I think it's cute that ppl thin 4m is good, when the elemental trinky does 14mill

vivid lagoon
#

What elemental trinket ?

edgy widget
dense elbow
#

Healer trinky, spawns an elemental that pulses dam

vivid lagoon
dense elbow
#

Arms rework when

spare steppe
#

12.0 right?

dense elbow
#

Combat Medic, arms new design, gonna be great

steady wharf
vivid lagoon
#

For some reason I always think arms is for pvp

steady wharf
#

neato

runic cypress
#

It's because of that I am forced to play fury

vivid lagoon
#

I only played arms for pve when I played warlords of draenor

runic cypress
#

Ahhh the best wow expansion

wicked dew
#

Yo am I buggin or does this maxroll opener graphic have BB and CB when you wouldn't have either at that point?

runic cypress
#

After Shadowlands of course

vivid lagoon
#

Arms was so good that xpac

mental vector
#

I played the gentlemans spec. Glad stance lol

vivid lagoon
#

Yeah I loved archmond mythic

#

I would do so much dmg playing arms

wicked dew
#

ok I was making sure I wasnt missing something in my talents

vivid lagoon
#

Most stupid xpac for me was bfa

normal hollow
#

from a rogue theorycrafter:

dense elbow
#

Prob just a confused intern. Wouldn't happen if Archi was in charge

runic cypress
normal hollow
#

I would be extremely surprised if everyone knew it

wicked dew
#

I did not know that, good to know thanks

normal hollow
#

everyone is a lot of people

dense elbow
#

I am sure maxroll just got some growing pains gladge hopefully they come with some great ideas that WoWhead can in turn adapt and improve upon

#

Best case, the service due to "competition" becomes better for the consumers

radiant knot
#

not a broken trinket btw

normal hollow
#

I have to think that's getting fixed on tuesday

restive peak
#

You can basically guarantee that any of those bugs, this and the ret hammer bug for example, are going to be fixed Tues