#fury
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all righty then yellow man, thank you
for anyone else that plays prot as well, are you guys using the versa embellishment ?
simc iss showing to reck/avatar on charge is that right? or do we build to our first enrage then combo
Just base ramp vs slayer empowered BS it looks like 3 targets, though I'm not taking in to account any ramp buffs and slayer is assumed to have fully charged slayer's dominance
There is a prot fan that answers this right below this channel
That would be correct if the build doesn’t have the avatar with oden fury as the passive
no sorry, like im asking other fury warriors who also play prot if thats what theyll be doing (instead of the 2h embelishment)
yeah the pure ST build no odyns
Oh I see
Patience my guy
Oh man I’m kinda excited for dracthyr warriors pity the sheath problem still exists
Fury better than arms in mplus?
Does it matter which weapon i craft?
Depends, which one do you have more fun on?
Axe has bigger gap between numbers
Nope
They are all equal
the average is all that matters
Doing the most damage I can is me having fun hence why I asked
Fury bursts way harder and basically deletes entire packs by itself currently but it's only heroic dungeons
NH
Nah
Pick whatever 2 hander you want
thx
does anyone have the biz bladestorm turn around wa pls? :>
Personally I think so
Are you in the bizcord?
Here join this and look under weakauras
Oh shit thanks for reminding me I have to install weakaura again
Is there any diference on builds/talents if we run embelish on weapon or the lining/versa ones?
Embellishments are omega low impact this expansion
Sadly
id be impressed if an embellish changed a talent
They should be op
My heart want lining but mind/math says weapon,,,
What content do you focus on
Ppl constantly stressing out to much about this 1% dps gain
Then honestly just go weapon
The double lining is minimal and since you mythic raid focus on that rn
is greatswords the crafting spec to go for first to craft a weapon?
thank you!
No problem
anybody have a macro for changing equip sets and talents within the same spec, i.e. put on my pvp gear and change to pvp build but stay in Fury
lol Im just dipping my toes for the first time into at least being a smalltime crafter for myself so no clue on some of these things lol
Go weapon tree full left side into bottom right node
The far left node is 1 handers
awesome will do, of course when I do this there gonna change the embellishment so its not our bis XD
How do you all sim for AOe/cleave?
is there a cap for bountyful delves a day next week?
i sim dungeon slice, st, and 8t 1:30 and compare results
though simming aoe on fury (and in general) doesnt really matter
nope
4 per day
ok thx
Is Mountain Thane > Slayer for raids? 😮
for fury? no
It’s not
It’s an awesome hero class though
Mountain thane is great for prot and looks wonderful
I do wish slayer had actual visuals like thane but what can you do
Yeah, is there a Talent tree pin in the Discord for Slayer?
Yes
Well not a pin but a channel called dps-faq
It has all the info you need
It’s right under protection
One day I’ll remember how to link channels
Fury is just better than arms atm right? In M+ and raid
Arms is slightly ahead in sims
But I think fury will be better due to its cds in raid and the design of fights

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hey guys, do i sim m+ through Dslice or patchwerk 5+ bosses ?
So I'm 589 ilevel. What am I doing wrong? I've seen people with lower ilevel pull more damage.
I'm very new to this, so I appreciate any help you can give me. Thanks!
Fury ST is Fury aoe
I don't see any issue
Also it's heroic dungeons
overall has so much more to it than just your dmg
I would not judge your damage based off anything out atm
So I'm not missing anything? Just hit the rotation as usual and ignore any doubts based on others' numbers?
At the moment yes
Okay, so hit mythics then look to adjust.
Well it still depends
even in M+
you can play exactly the same in the same key and your overall will be different
What max for coffee keys rn?
I switched from Thane to Slayer. I'm doing about the same amount of damage overall. Slayer just does more on single target. I might switch back.
I appreciate the help. I'm sure I'll be back in a few weeks!
If want to see if you're pushing your buttons right then go to the dummy and compare that to the sim
If it's close to the sim, you're pushing good buttons, if it's lower you're pushing bad buttons
How do I sim my stuff?
And make sure you don't have all the raid buffs which is the default
If you want to compare to the dummy damage
Smart
someone swore they had 16.... so....
If you had early access you could get a few more right?
believe so
@next canopy guildie has 15
you get keys from rep and pvp wqs and shit so not really a specific number
can someone help me figure something out on my buddy's sim?
he ran droptimizer and it is telling him his trinkets could be replaced, but hes wearing the trinkets on both the wowhead and IV guides
is the sim correct or is something broken?
I'm at 14 with 2 from early, 2 from shards and i believe 2 from renown
shit gear favours raw damage
the guides are using bis gear at ilvl 639, he isnt
and 482 is still "shit" when u need 50 more ilvls
you cant expect to get the same results if your gear is completely different
got it
Remember that sims only work for the exact situation you present it, the current situation is heroic dungeons while you simmed a 5 minute long ST encounter
it's why people are very against just giving straight up answers to questions like "what gear should i use"
it all depends on what you have right now
and the only real answer is sim it
yeah we understand this, just was wondering about why the trinkets were so diff
but makes sense
because a 5min ST encounter doesn't exist, so we don't suggest gear for that level of content when it's not currently available
i mean it can be as simple as a trinket that gives mastery being less valuable for you if you happen to have a lot of mastery already
do we craft 2h first week ?
no
well you can, but we're suggesting to wait until an assumed post heroic week patch comes out
chat is the crushing force change a buff?
Maybe eventually?
yes
It is such a small change it doesnt matter anyway
idk is getting more crit a buff?
Okay, I've run a few sims and compared it to my dummy damage in-game. It keeps showing Bladestorm as my top damaging ability in the sims, but it's like 3rd in-game. I pop recklessness and avatar, then rampage, and then BS. Is that not the correct sequence, or is the sim just weird?
It swapped from crit to crit damage
i mean its getting less crit but more crit damage
so its a change
it's like a .2% overall gain or something?
Silm skim reading
Link your sim, bs should be 4th probably
Me with my 7% crit
You're running a 1m sim
OH right lol
is SMF far off from Tgrip for fury?
~5%
Let's try it again.
in favor of tgrip I assume?
Ah gotcha ty
Ofc
Bleh thats gonna make dracthyr fury warrior a little annoying because of the wings
blah
5min sim, still #1 damage source.
Show
sims have unhinged (and reap procs from those unhinged) listed under bladestorm
and this is why i dont like it when they do that
you are swimming in bt crit chance with bloodcraz so i probably yes
Ooooh, okay. That makes some sense.
i think that's the philosophy behind the change @serene vessel
that's not 17% damage from bladestorm, that's 12% damage from bladestorm, 4.5% from bt and 1% from reap
hello philwar from legacy
You can be perma visage if you arent evoker
Appreciate the help, again!
My number one is crushing blow by far
Oh no I prefer the non visage stuff it makes mogging more challenging
Visage is the not dragon form my guy
Might wanna reread what I typed lol
fury does ST by pressing buttons
iirc its pretty solid burst outside of cooldowns its a bit meh but the cooldown window is fairly small
Ya what you said doesnt really make sense, you want dragon form but not wings i guess?
middle of the pack
dragon form but actually seeing my sheathed weapons lol
See that is where you lost me bc i feel like most people dont like dracthyr lol
I like the ..challenge of making a mog work for them tbh
point in case @viral jasper
that was what I was thinking as well, but was wondering in practice if it was actually a buff or not
with even more gear i doubt it wont be
you can get crit chance from a lot of things but not crit damage
yes. i am a paladin of physical prowess.
SMF is still garbage ya?
when does fury start to pull ahead of arms for leveling purposes?
5%~ behind
if ur playing for fun and really arent pushing any important content but u want SMF for fun go ahead
if ur doing any remotely minmaxed content ur just trolling
when you get avatar of the storm on thane imo
Are we talking 70-80 leveling or 1-80?
Fury doesn't get rampage or imp ww for a LONG time
i mean 70-80 it rly doesnt matter
So it's kinda ass
1-33 go arms
1-70 arms imo
but if u wanna play fury leveling
do 1-33 arms
do i do random bgs or skirmish for honor farm
just go neither and lvl purely through exploration!
earthen moment
technically I guess I could but +200% of crap is still crap xp lol
A guy made a video showing how he did it in 3hrs
Prob close to as good you can make it ingame. But man does it look weak
yeah it doesnt quite have that Im a strong warrior vibe to it
lowkey owns
They got the lean, but not mean part of it.
is it always worth it to use crushing blow over bloodbath, even in AoE where there is a chance for reap the storm to proc?
thats why im enjoying earthen so much its got all the fun of dwarf but with literal rock hard abs
you will send BB right after either way, only with more crit thanks to CB
ah so CB>BB>RB>BT?
Like whats not to love
real
what about sudden death proc in slayer? is that prio over rampage/CB?
what will be the easiest delve to spam come Tuesday to get level 8 loot
it needs the hole sadly lol
he cooked
if only hunters could turn their pet into anduin somehow
No chussy
Is there a list of the pre S1 BiS to get ?
wowhead
yeah im not a fan of arms im going back to fury even if its less single target the aoe is more fun
average gameplay
(for leveling imean)
yeah i know
Im not 33 yet but even if it feels like ass its still more fun than arms
hate pvp!!!
:3
I cant see it, I can see the S1 gear
Any idea who or a link?
Sounds chill
Oh man I totally forgot monks existed
real ones level in pvp and abuse mark of honor gear
only thing you have to avoid is geared warlocks bc they are fucking impossible to kill
oh your right he removed it. Based Archi, but in all seriousness dont worry about prebis just get as high ilvl as you can get thats all that matters
hmm I gotta change my earthen buff to mastery
yea I am spamming heroics at the moment, just looking at which pieces are from vendors/crafting etc
Mountain Thane looks so much more interesting than slayer :[
until you realize that slayer turns your bloodthirst into a second whirlwind of DOOM
votekick
Could you tell me please where in this discord i find some information about rotation in ST and on Aoe.Please help cause i thought that i do stu wrong
the extra cc from dracthyr alone is gonna be nice
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Yes for sure ! At least we can keep the human form as warrior
I don’t want to be a dragon but the human form is sick
Im not so sure how important glide will be to warrior because of heroic leap but like.. Hey its still nice
No way I'm giving up being an orc to be an ugly lizard
im on the fence tbh
if earthen really doesnt do it for me ill play around with dracthyr
blood elf master race
negate any falling dmg all the time
just like dh
pretty good imo
agreed
Dragon: What's a knockback
Also you can use Glide's slight height gain to leap up higher
I need your guys opinion.
Am i ready for raid opening?
Second Trinket is a bit shit, but im open for suggestions on your side
ctf style maps are so fun when the enemy team is 4 rogues and a bear :3
i love bears
i dont when its ctf and he just deer forms with the flag
across my 8 teammates
and they just :3 him
just wait til a demon hunter climbs up to a high spot and lagswitches across the map
life changing event
or me getting tanks on my team in 2s/3s
what happened to ppl complaining about fighting tanks..
dont worry we won
i did enough damaeg
surv/dh/pala
the healer pala thought it'd be a good idea to sac the surv hunter
all 3 on me
while i pop opener
luckily dh wasnt geared tho
:3
Something something fcs/tanks take extra damage
But yeah tanks are fine
guys does the dot buff from roar capstone updates dynamically our bleed damage or we need to cast roar before OF?
nah
its
100% of the time its probably a tank player doing pvp for xmog or some dubm shit
or "to try it out"
like that tank warr i just had, had half pvp half pve gear
if ur a pvp player by now you'd be FULL pvp gear
is farmable in a day or two
uh
no clue
:3
Dynamically
Very little snapshots anymore
feral is one of the few specs that does i think
Yeah but ferals aren't people
You mean furry form
which negates the good
since I don't farm heroic I got this trinket at 580, haven't compared it to others but the proc sounds good
especially in world content
i just random queued
as prot
i think i’ve only done one dungeon as fury in tww launch

yeah but it doesnt grant to you
in solo content it does
aka 80% of content I do rn since I don't think I would need to do any heroics if I am capped on crests already
in solo it grants you 3177 mastery
why have long queue when short queue right there?
i only queue as prot lol
I HATE KARMA I HATE KARMA I HATE KARMA
real
mfw i outdamage the actual dps
and im not even playing colossus
:3
has anyone done the mage tower challenge yet this xpac?
wrong! vendetta is not in the game anymore
silence piss colored class player
i have never pressed vendetta in my life
and spongeuwu is tactically being held at level 79 so i cannot be asked to exist in a split
2
is the nerubian 584 renown trinket good to use?
say goodbye to your little friend @restive peak
i was just looking at the raid builds for slayer, is there a reason we dont run onslaught anymore out of curiosity?
because it does less numbers than the new build
Are you guys all swapping to dracthyr?
I would never betray my dwarven heritage.
it's highly competitive, i'll be switching
cause RB OP
Sure dracthyr can fly, but dwarves can be tossed.
im not giving up meld im good
Hrm sword or axe?
Can visage form have transmog ?
Yup visage form is fully transmogable
Okay good . And warrior is always in visage form ?
its the dracthyr form thats just shoulders/belt /tabard
I think its choice you can enable always visage if you want
sword is cooler, but I think the axe fits better
short weapon for a short race 🤝
@rotund ginkgo I've finished kengan what else you got about questionably dressed guys beating each other
I assume you've seen Baki?
manga is better but yeah ❤️
yup
seen record of ragnarok?
yup
Oh shit they amde an anime out of that?
ye
I was thinking about hajime no ippo but its kinda old
And looks too normal
pre-bis is basically "take your highest ilvl gear"?
yes
Back to mark of khardros if we don't want to play with the mini game trinket ig?
or queens, yes, though queen is also a little annoying to use and pure ST
SkarShard is also competitive in multitarget, though it won't sim well for obvious reasons
You can probably prioritize it over Mark for most Mythic+, but they're close enough that isn't a big difference if you decide you want more burst and less throughput
tbf it was a very obscure issue; two other SimC maintainers also looked at it and couldn't find any issue - the damage checked out, the amount of uses were correct, everything looked fine
and my own tests came back without issue until @modest condor said something innocuous about the number of procs he was getting as Fury, which led me to find the issue
Btw are you guys crafting weapons next week or waiting til mythic week?
depends, but probably wait till Mythic if you don't think Heroic is going to be a major hurdle for your guild
waiting till first boss on mythic is dead
the main question is whether we'll get a free Enchanted Crest this time around - in Dragonflight, there was as "kill the end boss" quest which awarded one, and we think there will be this time as well, but it has not been confirmed yet
I mean chances are pretty low my guild gets AOTC in heroic week I think
We raid tues/wed too
and without that free crest, crafting a weapon is a very inefficient use of resources
Can spark craft it to 606 then recraft with gilded crests, no?
Yeah, but if you get better weapons somewhere, it's kind of a waste
Oh I didn't realize dracythr racial gives 2.5% mastery
ideally, you want to use the free crest to craft it to heroic item level - even if you loot a better weapon, you're unlikely to get two, so it can go in your offhand
- once you have enough crests, you can upgrade it to mythic item level
if we don't get a free crest though, you're probably best waiting until you can just craft it at mythic item level directly (especially if you also intend to use it as Arms?)
I was thinking spark craft to 606, recraft with gilded crests, use the free wyrm crest on the embellished wrists
Idk if that's cooked though
I have the week of the 17th off to farm m+ but I'm not sure about heroic week
honestly the wrists can be any item level, the embellishment value doesn't change, so all you're getting is slightly more stats on a low budget piece
Yeah good point
plus you won't have a spark for wrists till Mythic week 2 anyway, so you'll wanna craft the embellishment on a 590 blue bracer for the time being
Was gonna rock 590 embellished wrists next week
correct, but that means you have 3 more weeks to get more crests
For the wrists you mean?
yeah
Makes sense
you can't use the free Runed crest on it, because you don't have a spark
True
Wrists are the lowest statted piece we can put the double down embellish on right?
wrists/cloak, yes
if you cast rampage and you are not enraged. does your rampage get the enrage buff of dmg still?
idk if that made sense
yes
cause often times im just running out of enrage and i cast rampage when its gone
would be truely cringe if not
ooo ok ty guys
Rampage benefits from its own Enrage yes, Bloodthirst does not
LOL
thank you very much
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Hm for wpvp/bgs do you think fury or arms is better if i DONT have a pocket healer
Fury 200% arms get rekt by everything
Is it too late to come back now ? Or still in time to raid tomorrow?
Too late for what
raid september 10
raid is not tomorrow
Also youre well fine
leveling is 4-5h if you're not a snail
then u just fly through some balls and craft 590
2h
Done
Okay. Might have to take a day off work to power up
Didn't that guy get in to a boxing match with a bear and win? Tiktok has taught me to love ippo
Raid reset is still a week long
you got a whole week for normal/hc
Yeah i think my old guild raids on reset

where can I find code for simming different consumables on raidbots all at once?
yes unironic
why is he cheating
maybe he is eepy and go to sleepy
just consume them
this is true I should in fact be sleeping an hour ago
whetstones dont override enchantments right??
id defo buy oil over stone tho
sweet
theyre same same and cost much less
did any of yall use them carved crests?
wont they be semi obsolete next week though?
is it 606 or 600 i forgor
just send a chunk beforr splits imo
i can make my helmet 606 rn
log out
i will actually instantly craft a spark item at 8:00 in the morning
lol not capped on honor
i bought honor items :3
same
i mean crafting no crest spark item isn't that bad
u can craft a 2h with crest ig
tomorrow we congregate and achieve victory in a battleground of epic proportions?
but why would u
no
withot i mean
this loses you hc crests
typo
Without yes
cus u just make it mythic next week
im honor capped
purchase another trinket
606 ye
surely you will need adaptation
so do helms, bracers, and belts still proc sockets or is it just jewelry now?
then u recraft myth week
they can still proc
proccing on jewelry just saves u gold now
silence
new bejeweled stages just dropped
ppl got the recipe already from some bag of ores
wish that was me
but it sells for way more than it costs to craft atm
i would do so much gambling
i would hate when i open my wallet and theres so much money that it just starts flying
until im poor again
where were u when arm was kil
at the frontlines killing it
you should perhaps umm go do p1 and p2?

no 👍
what if i just asked again?
point taken
Couldn’t have come home to better news bro 
this single png is holding the game together
curious?
yellow privaledge
used for good





do i just send crafts on alt to be 580?
anda
why 580
the crafts are 590 right
590 bro
is dungeon spam best way to fill up to 2k valorstones
get digging
zionix
wax doesnt actually fill ur valorstone resevoir much its only good for extra.......
can you review my kokomi
ok go fly through some balls
<>< KOKOMIFAN ><>
cap weathered crests by flying through orbs, collect one time rewards from the renown youve definitely got
then craft as many 590s as you can
Im top1 kokomi and u banezor???
Renown lol
het a grip
objectified a person
fisch
is our gcd 1.5s?
Baseline yes
increased by haste up to 0.75s
haste makes it faster however
@100%


its her
hee hee
her transcends the order of things
Weathered crests stop at like less than 10 surely everyone that raids mythic has that 
her exists outside the boundaries set by mere mortals
No :)
i said i wouldnt do renown shit, so i didnt :),
This is it right here
I see the bis trinket changed in the wowhead guide, are we thinking the on use is going to be less troll?
quick question, I haven't played fury seriously since BFA, I remember that Whirlwind was our filler for all cases, but I was checking it's damage without any whirlwind AOE talent and it does half the damage vs Slam (considering both take 1 GCD, should Slam replace Whirlwind in strictly ST scenarios now?
🧎♂️
If you don't have Improved WW talented, then yes you press Slam in ST
Otherwise WW is just the default ST filler since while it doesn't do as much damage, it does generate Rage
does it apply to 2-3 targets?
If you're fighting 2+ targets and you need to press a filler, you're gonna be having Improved WW talented
But no, 2+ targets you press WW (if you don't have it for some reason)
thai explain red colour
or the target is so useless that u don't care
wrong letter and since i use qwertz i look racist maybe idk
Angy
zou're noob
hi thai
Wait wtf orbs actually give currency? I must have that filtered in my chat logs, I thought the were part of some flying boost system blizz forgot to implement lmao
yeah you can fly and get from 0 to cap weathered crests in like 10 min
greetings
this is a lie
yea more like 7-8
Stop coping
Are we talking 0 to cap or the 90 on reset? The 90 is like 10m
i think we should ban people for every lie they post
No shot the entire 300/400 is lol
it would give me some free time
ok redditors
just do it like minority report
i might have lost track of time on the alt i did 0 to 270
think it was the 5th one
the cap mightve been 180 back then
maybe i am lying and losing my mind
thai please stop digging your grave further..
the legend of zelda television show premiered 35 years ago today
wouldn't be the first time 
Well excuuuuuuse me
When it comes to choosing weapons, do we want weapons with a higher high-end damage cap (and lower low-end) or do we want one that's more balanced? And why?
Crafted weapons are all the same dps
So it doesn’t matter
So it's weapon dps that matters, not the damage range?
correct
Cool, thanks
Man, I remember when that movie came out. It was such a weird take on Mario Bros.
NA was actively trying to destroy the image of Mario in the 80s
My personal conspiracy theory
anyone got link to pre-raid bis list? cant find any
what we crafting first?
dinner
crafting the fattest blunt rn
Noob question there, is there a reason to Rampage before losing Enrages? Perhaps it is worth cause it increases rampages damages, or should I wait the end of it?
equip the highest ilvl gear 🙂
rampage is still a good damage dealer
Just follow the prio list, can't go wrong with listening to the guide
Wowhead icyveins etc etc
That's the thing, the rotation/prio list only says to use "Rampage if Enrage is not active", so I'm wondering if it's worth using Rampage in the last second of Enrage to enhance its damages as well
rampage already gets the dmg bonus from its own enrage
Oh that's neat, thanks !
i dont think enrage generally falls off during your rotation
only bloodthirst doesnt get the benefit from its own enrage
It can, but you gotta get really unlucky with your RB resets
that movie is a gem!
Rampage's priority is higher if enrage isn't up, because reapplying Enrage is very important
however, that does not come up very frequently, if at all - in practice, you will use Rampage when close to rage cap, typically while Enrage is still up
Thanks a lot !
What is the easiest Delve to complete on tuesday for level 8 gear?
I've been hitting the dummy and there are times during execute when I'll double raging blow, get to or above 110 range, get rage caped, and then execute (rage capped) and then rampage again. seems like wasted rage
needing 4 sparks to craft two weps sucks
Real
This is my fav guilty pleasure movie
It’s overhated
You waste like 1k rage across 5m on our current highest sim, this is just part of it
It doesn’t matter we’re warriors
The delve closest to you on login lewl
Depends on which 4 are bountiful that day
Are the fastest ones according to reddit
Remember to lvl your delve to T8 before doing your bountiful ones
what's "bountiful"
ah icic
Tazocins guide to Bountiful Delves
(Super secret don’t share with enemy guilds)
You can run 4 a day, we all know this.
The bountiful status of a delve will be consumed when you finish it for that day. This means if you do a bountiful delve to unlock a higher level (say do a level 6 bountiful delve), the bountiful status of that delve will be consumed for the day. So while you’re unlocking tier 8, do it on the non bountiful delves only.
To get to tier 8 delves, the quickest ones to spam are Tak Rethan Abyss, The Waterworks, Sinkhole, or Kriegval’s Rest. You can spam the same delve to unlock all the way to tier 8.
There is no downside or cost to doing delves in a group. The loot from the bountiful chest at the end of a bountiful delve is personal loot. There is no cost or downside to running them in a group vs running them solo.
In a group, you will only get one Brann. It will be the group leaders Brann, so make whoever has the strongest Brann the group leader. Everyone else’s Brann will still get Xp as though they were in the delve.
When you use a key at the end of a bountiful delve, you will get a quest starting item called a Radiant Echo. When you accept this quest, it should give a world event on your map. The world event will be a timed event where you just kill mobs. The more mobs you kill, the more key fragments you will get. If you’re in a party, you will share mob kill credit, so to min max key fragments, do this in a 5 man group. It’s unclear yet if you can do this with a raid group, or party group only. It’s also unclear how many times you can get a radiant echo quest per week, but it seems you can get 4 a day if you do them between bountiful delves. People are getting upwards of 50 key fragments from these so they’re for sure worth doing.
If you have a radiant echos quest already and do your second bountiful delve, you won’t be able to start another one. This means that each time you use a key on a bountiful delve, you should do the radiant echo world event before doing another bountiful delve.
Radiant echos events will also give valorstones, not sure how much, but it’s a good reason to not spend globs of wax or be at cap when doing them.
If you die 5 times in a delve (t8 bountiful) you won’t be able to finish it for a bountiful chest. You won’t however, lose the bountiful status of that delve for the day, or lose your key, so you can leave and retry as many times as you want.
There is no ilvl requirement for each delve difficulty. The tooltip will recommend ilvl 600 for a tier 8 delve, however a tank or melee dps can easily solo t8s on the ptr, and a 5 man group should be able to steamroll them.
The treasures inside bountiful delves seem to have a pretty high chance to drop Profaned Tinderboxes. These are a crafting reagent that sell for 6k right now. So it's worth looting treasures in the bountifuls where you can.
If anyone else has any useful factoids on delving, please share
damn man
Thought I'd share this here with you fine gentlemen
Warriors together stronk
That's a big wall when on mobile
so.. 600 for t8
No tool tip recommend that. Not needed
600 is the blizz recomended. A skilled melee player will steamroll an 8 solo in 585 gear
I have discord on my vertical monitor. That posted the entire screen. nice
Weren't people steam rolling 8s at like 590 and lower on ptr
Mm
Yep, the main issue is the melee swings killing clothies, but a plate wearer with some self sustain will be fine
I can see blizzard making delve pretty easy and accessible.
If you are a skilled player... it should be easy
It's a content for casual players
If youre not a skilled player and in 580 gear, doing them in a 5 man group will also be easy
Yes but for casual players, delve progression is supposed to last weeks. It's not intended for casual andies to be able to steamroll to tier 11 in the first week in leveling gear
yep
I wouldn't be surprised if delves are poorly tuned/bugged/exploitable on release since it's a new system
You guys simming Honey Buzeer trinket? Always showing on top here...
that trinket is not in the dungeon rotation + it sucks to use
How do u position yourself better when theres just groups of mobs together?
I feel like im always just in them or too far
in DF fury's haste sweet spot was like 35%. is that still the case?
What the sims recommend. As always.

does rampage count as one attack for improved whirlwind?
yes
God how frustrating would it be if it ate all charges xD

is it really better to drop onslaught for ST? i know thats waht Wowhead now says, but i feel like we are missing a filler 2nd cd juicer @edgy widget
That’s what the sims say
In the machine god we trust
It’s what brought SD back to us too
should i be using a coffer key to get the world soul memory to acquire a spark so i can craft the 2 hander?
no
Yes next week when higher delves unlock
how does execute fit into the rotation now priority wise? we take sudden death so i assume more than a low prio filler?
maybe not tho
so were just chilling for min max on the keys
i guess my question is, wouldnt it be worth to get the bis offhand now before week 2?
Yes literally no reason to use them now
is over
I gotta go eat a mastery gem bleh
It’s high prio if AJ is going to fall off or needs to he applied
thats the wrinkle i dont quite understand
Fury bis is in grim batol
The wowhead prio guide doesn’t change with us picking up SD
SD?
what yall get from ST dummy?
It does but we don’t know if embellishments will be changed. Plus it’s heroic week
theres not much reason to craft before mythic week
Sudden death
should i craft anything now then with my 1 spark
I wouldn't.
I hope they change embellishments during the maintenance
diamond hands!
I know so many people who already had their shit crafted
I just don't want to TC :0
No one has been to a m+ yet to test it out
Yeah I had 300 ping during that and it's not like things changed since then
theres not gonna be any surprise MT tech I can tell you that
unless tuning changes things next week
MT isn’t better than slayer unfortunately
from the guides it sounds like slayer is better rn overall, mountain thane maybe just for some heavier aoe or to switch it up
Me praying that ret and DK get nerfed so I don't have so many plate users to compete with
Nothing against slayer, I just love TC for some reason
TC is so fun
Nah even in heavier aoe slayer wins
Hell I'm still in 441 gear.
only way I go thane is that TC cats rends

has relentless pursuit had an internal CD this whole time? or is that a recent change?
I haven't played since Aug Evoker came out.

That's an experiment is self deprivation.
Ion is trying really hard why don't you want to support him huh?

What's so funny huh? He's listening to Feedback. You don't like story mode raids and follower dungeons? Huh? Huh?
To be fair, those are great adds that should be refined to great experiences
Trying hard to get a yacht like Bobby?
Oh my I found the perfect mace for my Fury warrior
1/10
wrong channel mb
I hate this
They gonna roast you there to.
shrug
I'm just gonna wait for m+ and raid gear before I start transmogin
I'm not giving those shady ethereals nothing
Only transmog I want from next season is evoker elite PvP mog
psh I have funded thousands into my grummles lol
They are even worse
All they do is take your money and sleep in front of the cheese vendors
Lazy good for nothing grummels
Varian shoulda have build a wall around pandaria
He tried, but he got pushed off his airship to certain doom by Gwenzie before it was put into motion
Furriez united
Those shady ethereals make fucking bank off of me. Gotta look fresh or it's a DPS loss.
Just to make sure, in our opener/rotation, we use the full duration of BS and don't interrupt it correct?
ty
The charge breaks cc? Always had a cd
You get the speed every time though
What is the highest item level we can craft now? 593?
I think it’s 606
590 or 606 with the spark
593 is fully upgraded HC gear
Which frankly is better then any of the 590 crafted gear but despite this I got paid 50k to make 10 crests for some guy
But you don't need those crests at all come next week
I'm not complaining I hope more people need crests made and pay me to make them
I am 580 PvP geared and happy 
im glad to hear that
Ready for m+ week 
If I would do PvP I'd try to sell the PvP recipes for big moneys
I can keep 1m dmg/s now with my gear I can’t wait to get my hands on that tier
You doing 1m ST? Dang
best I can sustain on a dummy is 640
I am falling behind
Great that means the other people in your guilds raid get their upgrades first 😂
Dummy I can sustain 870k
Oh yeah I don’t care about gear raid anymore wow is not like before lol
It’s so much so much easier now to get gear
I am around 500-550k atm, so neat to know my fam will almost double in a week of m+ 
870 how,. am I bad?
M+ isn't coming out this week
I remember when I play wotlk and cataclysm it was super hard to get gear

mole people unite
is this breakdown cursed?
Surprised to see BB on top, for sure
You’re good man
Weapon enchant 5% kek
I'm gonna delve so hard people gonna call me baby Jessica
You need this trinket it’s super broken
Most of the time I get 4m dmg with this trinket
will try simming it. running shard and sac atm
Hehehehhehebebe sac
Damn I’m really bad I’m high 500’s with no food, pots, enchants etc. maybe I’m doing something wrong
What elemental trinket ?
its good at this ilvl, starts to drop later on though
Healer trinky, spawns an elemental that pulses dam
Wtb healer spec for warrior
Arms rework when
12.0 right?
Combat Medic, arms new design, gonna be great
For some reason I always think arms is for pvp
neato

It's because of that I am forced to play fury
I only played arms for pve when I played warlords of draenor
Ahhh the best wow expansion
Yo am I buggin or does this maxroll opener graphic have BB and CB when you wouldn't have either at that point?
After Shadowlands of course
Arms was so good that xpac
I played the gentlemans spec. Glad stance lol
Indeed it does
ok I was making sure I wasnt missing something in my talents
Most stupid xpac for me was bfa
from a rogue theorycrafter:
Hi, I don’t use this platform enough and I want to note I am not speaking on behalf of wowhead.
maxroll wow guides are plagiarized AI slop that copied the work of actual theorycrafters working on wowhead and icyveins guides. Actual scumbag shit and I hate it
That’s all :)
I thought everyone knew that
I would be extremely surprised if everyone knew it
I did not know that, good to know thanks
everyone is a lot of people
I am sure maxroll just got some growing pains
hopefully they come with some great ideas that WoWhead can in turn adapt and improve upon
Best case, the service due to "competition" becomes better for the consumers
not a broken trinket btw
I have to think that's getting fixed on tuesday
You can basically guarantee that any of those bugs, this and the ret hammer bug for example, are going to be fixed Tues


