fury

[hushed saffron]

ty

[lament ocean]

does anybody know a addon that displays Meat Cleaver stacks?

[oblique trail]

Weakaura

[lament ocean]

i cant get it to work on plater

[oblique trail]

You can get it to display whatever you want

[sullen dove]

not likely to find an addon specifically for that but yea weakauras

[lament hinge]

rage gen is just awful outside cds

[lament ocean]

okay thanks guys

[sullen dove]

https://wago.io/1ttKOBI1m this is an example of one

s tier name

[oblique trail]

It's good enough for you to stay nearly permanently enraged

[sullen dove]

does ascendance's stat gain not change frmo ilvl?

[oblique trail]

I'd say that's a lot better than awful

[sullen dove]

or is it just not showing a stat diff from the 4 ilvl diff between 586 and 590

[oblique trail]

Like any embellishment it should

4 ilvl is a 1 track difference, so it likely wont show it no

[sullen dove]

[oblique trail]

Iirc Allied Wrists had a similar thing

[lament ocean]

nice that was exactly what I was lookin for

[oblique trail]

Where the tooltip barely moved on a per ilvl upgrade

[lament ocean]

thanks again for the WA

[forest berry]

hi everyone quick newb question is that normal to drop like ~ 70 fps whenever i'm using a WA for like my spells and stuff ?

[oblique trail]

Some WAs are very heavy, but dropping 70 fps is not normal no

[forest berry]

like when i'm hitting target dummies i went from 170 without WA to like ~100 wich is fine but still

[oblique trail]

Have you checked to see if it's only your class WA that are loading in combat, and not a ton of random WAs that you don't need

[eternal sundial]

That's really awful

You probably have some wa terroism

In there

[oblique trail]

If it's only your class WA that loads, I'd recommend getting rid of it and finding some new setup

[forest berry]

i've deleted every other wa its the only one i have

[oblique trail]

Yeah I'd recommend just binning it then

[forest berry]

yeah i'll try others to see how it goes, ty

[clever belfry]

everyone elses bad

uses scale in group settings

real

rea

rle

alr

la

al

[fickle bluff]

booo

[sullen dove]

yes

this means something to me

ah yes

of course

[teal pine]

Some people are having an issue with stutters after pressing rampage and proccing cb/bb. Could be that maybe

[warm crag]

i will detonate explosives i have hidden in your house

[sullen dove]

not sure how accurate this tooltip is but just "showing it" on a 606 weapon still says its 89 stat per stack

just like on a 590

but if its like bein a goober cuz i cant actually make the axe yet or whatevr

[runic violet]

Looks pretty sweet

what's the highest crafted this season?

[sullen dove]

yea just that its secondaries seem to not be increasing with ilvl

636

[native wadi]

Also quick one, whats the recraft mats, anyone know?

[oblique trail]

Algari missive

oh

[native wadi]

Why would it? Embellishment is the same

[sullen dove]

probably some sanctified alloy

[oblique trail]

Read mats as missive somehow

[sullen dove]

cuz prev embellishments have almost always increased in value with ilvl

[native wadi]

Yeah for recraft 606 to 636

Thinking if i should do it next wed or wait

[sullen dove]

like a 525 crafted shadowflame of course did more damage than a 447 one in s2

and allied wrists and whatever that gave stats also gave more stats at higher ilvl

but seems peculiar there isnt a shift

[oblique trail]

hmm

[sullen dove]

from a 20 ilvl diff of 586 also showing 89 stats

[oblique trail]

Looking at a gear compare, the stat amount doesn't change between ilvls

[sullen dove]

cuz like more secondary good ofc but if effect doesnt increase itll just be shit in a season or 2

1700 stat will be nothin

[native wadi]

Yeah thats actually true

1700 is fine now but s2 will be peanuts 😅

[sullen dove]

yep cocka

[oblique trail]

Guess Ascendance might just stay at a static 89 regardless of ilvl

[sullen dove]

[native wadi]

Rip train?

[sullen dove]

?

but i mean w/e assuming its not an oversight in robot which doubt it is that it'd just "make up" a number for how many stats it gives at higher ilvl

still bis rn

[thorn steeple]

i got this one which is pretty nice
https://wago.io/JN_eGXFKN

[sullen dove]

why is this thing lvl 80 lol

insane loot

[oblique trail]

No clue why but it has scaled every expansion with you I think

[slim pollen]

I think it's allways been scaled to max level

Damn, too slow 😛

[sullen dove]

how silly and whimsical

[slim pollen]

Anyone else having issues with freshly spawned world quests showing as if previously completed and not giving rep? (And I have not completed them on any other character ofc.)

[summer bobcat]

damn these enchantments are expensive

or im broke

either way im fucked

[sullen dove]

ahh dont worry... the one you'll actually want that releases with the raid will probably be even more expensive

[eternal sundial]

Expensive

Wait for content Release

[sullen dove]

matswise i didnt think it was that bad tho

just stormdust thats obscenely high

rest of the mats barely 2k gold i think

so might be simple enough to get some depths enchants if u got a nice friendly little enchanting guy that gets it early on

surely wont charge exorbinant rates

[oblique trail]

Got enchants max cranked just waiting for recipes

[sullen dove]

ya main crafter guy in my guild with like 7 crafting alts for all professions said he's like fully prepared his enchanter to make r3 i think with no concentration

just need it to drop surely...

surely he wont have to spend like 2mil gold for recipe

lariat recipe moment

[jolly mist]

whats like

the best

prof rn

to make some money?

my warr is maxed in gathering but

i havent really tried any other profs

so im not sure

[clever belfry]

double down

Buy recipes

[eternal sundial]

@sullen dovealo stormfish

do i gear my rsham

[oblique trail]

Radiant power is still like 80k

[clever belfry]

40k down from yday then

[warm crag]

@oblique trail please stop running a cartel

[oblique trail]

broke cartel

[sullen dove]

someone just bought my radiant power enchant for 145k

like

2 hrs ago

[sullen dove]

idk healing is for nerds

but my gm says he thinks rsham is fun

but prolly also cuz totemic like plays the game for you

[clever belfry]

different continent buddy

[oblique trail]

It doubled in price

[clever belfry]

what if i told u

totemic is bad

[clever belfry]

buy

[sullen dove]

no

[oblique trail]

nyo :3

[sullen dove]

[oblique trail]

I only got 500k

[clever belfry]

the other one keeps up AV 100%

:)

[sullen dove]

(idk what that is )

[sullen dove]

just get nepo baby'd with raid enchant to make for ur compadres

[clever belfry]

ancestral vigor

[clever belfry]

ure fucked btw

Crafts+encha+gems

[oblique trail]

I'll be fine

[sullen dove]

i feel like i just should run double crafting profs...

like i lvld mining to 100

but i just will never be caught actually mining

for profit

ever

[clever belfry]

nice Prof then

[sullen dove]

gathering professions r for mole people

[clever belfry]

the most convoluted shit prof rn has to be engi tho

[sullen dove]

lol

[clever belfry]

The way u get your weekly knowledge and the recipe learning

fucking sucks

[sullen dove]

i think it was like semi required in df to actually have some engy's cuz u needed to make the soul zapper to make some embellished gear

[eternal sundial]

idk i think the other is cooler

[sullen dove]

but yea idk if engi ever has an actual purpose outside of classic wow

[clever belfry]

Nitro boosts until they SLd them

Glider in times of no flying

knock belt

cr

Engi is the fucking goat

[sullen dove]

[eternal sundial]

goat on frank

[forest berry]

About my big fps drop with WA's it was simply my wa for the rage bar that was causing my fps to drop from 170 to 100 lol ...

[clever belfry]

people who took until fyrakk to realise how broken knock belt is

are bozos

[oblique trail]

Sounds like a really badly made rage bar then

[clever belfry]

powerful rage bar

[sullen dove]

crushing blow just crits for 1m

[oblique trail]

CDs + Opportunist moment

[clever belfry]

CBt?

[fickle bluff]

crushing blow trucks

@warm crag

[clever belfry]

cognitive behavioural therapy

[alpine haven]

This game is so social now

[sullen dove]

real

[alpine haven]

Got a blacksmith friend because I overtipped him

[sullen dove]

makin connections w

[oblique trail]

He's just using you because he knows you'll keep paying too much

[alpine haven]

yeah lmao

[sullen dove]

😭

[alpine haven]

Gave him 10k to upgrade to 590 from 583

I am a WHALE

[sullen dove]

...?

oh

nvm

[alpine haven]

already had the mats

[oblique trail]

Send orders to Baneziwarr-Ragnaros btw

[sullen dove]

read backwards

[oblique trail]

For no reason

[alpine haven]

lmao

[sullen dove]

[alpine haven]

no

[sullen dove]

holy

[alpine haven]

gotta take care of the dudes that craft

[fickle bluff]

ragnaros-baneziwarr

[alpine haven]

its like when you tip at the bar and suddenly the bartender gives you more attention

[oblique trail]

irl alchemy

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-chemistry-experiment-scientific-walter-white-gif-17820266

[fast root]

So who are the best dps warriors that make content on YouTube/twitch ect?

[eternal sundial]

im forcing greg to do opportunist check for cb soon

[clever belfry]

not possible xrealm

only in guild...

[oblique trail]

Join guild send order get kicked

[clever belfry]

Hmm no

[oblique trail]

hmm yes

I need to recoup my costs (I am too lazy to sit in /2 to do this)

[alpine haven]

Did finally hit 580 though

what a chad

[molten wing]

insane play from you

[proud vessel]

should we already craft gear or save resources?

Like the gear u dont need sparks for i mean

[molten wing]

you can craft the 580-590 gear now with the lowest crests

but thats about it

should probably save spark for next week

[proud vessel]

so u just need mats for that 690 gear>

590*

[clever belfry]

theres is crafting comms set up already like this yes

[oblique trail]

not surprised

[clever belfry]

h

[forest berry]

Can't wait to rerace in dracthyr

[gaunt moat]

😡

[errant vessel]

Critcake

[past gust]

U guys think 580 Ilvl is enough to run the t8 delves? don't want to waste gold and mats if I'am going to swap them out soon anyway

[sullen dove]

is it possible yea probably

idk scaling

but its not like delves are timed in any way (i think at least)

u can take it 1 mob at a time if u must

[past gust]

aight so 580 is enough for me in that case

[fast root]

his last vid is a month ago from beta 😦

[forest berry]

gotta get those 2.5% mastery buff Kappa

[hard widget]

You can get a lot higher by just upgrading ur gear with the lowest crests even without crafting

[terse meadow]

fury or thane the go to for dunngeons ?

[hard widget]

Fury slayer

[drowsy iron]

This is exactly why I tryhard goldmaking beginning of exp

[hard widget]

Boosting m+ pays a lot early, and u dont have to trade the gear either

[terse meadow]

do we have ann actual build there ? the pinned ones are all about thane if im not wrong

[hard widget]

There is on wowhead

[forest berry]

i'm already bored seeing how many farmable items are in grim batol, its not like i played cata classic for the last 4 months 😢

[drowsy iron]

All I do is flip

But ya boosting seems nice

[terse meadow]

ahh found it thy

[hard widget]

Boosting is by far the most money ull make

[sullen dove]

boosting is cool cuz even tho its big gold earlier in the season typically

even later when its cheaper it just gets easier

when ur maxed out gear

in and out of a raid in an hour or so

[hard widget]

I think its like a 150k split per dungeon at the start

[drowsy iron]

That's not good

Compared to flips

[sullen dove]

eh yeah dungeons are more sus

[drowsy iron]

But it is consistent AF

[hard widget]

How is 150k for 10 minutes not good xd

[sullen dove]

dont rly like boosting them but its convenient if youre also just grinding out weekly vaults to kill 2 birds with 1 stone

[drowsy iron]

Are you making the full 150k solo?

[hard widget]

Yes

[wheat estuary]

how are you boosting solo

[sullen dove]

but particularly raid boosting like i spent idk maybe 4-5 months really boosting typically 1 raid a week for s3 and s4 and i hit gold cap with not much work

[drowsy iron]

I don't understand how you can boost solo

What

[hard widget]

He means the split

[sullen dove]

a bigger sum is split to 150k per person

[hard widget]

Okay guess u dont mean the split

[sullen dove]

or 150k is split

i think is what it sounded like

[hard widget]

What swordfish said

[drowsy iron]

Ok

[sullen dove]

the second or the first thing

you got 150k

as did all your other boosters yea?

in that group

[hard widget]

Yes

[sullen dove]

not 150k between all of you

yea

[drowsy iron]

It's definitely solid gold
Not even close to flipping but flipping isn't consistent

At all

[hard widget]

Early season boosting m+ is on another level

Same with raid tbh tho

[sullen dove]

ya u also like need a good foot in the door with a bunch of gold

to reliably flip

i tried it once in like s3 or s4

bought a ton of dreaming essence when they were like 7 gold eacha nd put em up for like 20 or 30

but ppl just kept undercutting still

lol

[drowsy iron]

Lol

[sullen dove]

wasnt rly worth it dont think

[drowsy iron]

Rip

[sullen dove]

but i prolly made "most" of it back

[drowsy iron]

It's a bit of hypothetical gambling

[hard widget]

I’d be amazed if u make more gold flipping per hour than boosting early season

[sullen dove]

just depends on the kinda mats that are in high demand and how many ppl have em

[drowsy iron]

Per hour, for sure no
But I've made 5m so far this expansion

[gaunt moat]

There is one consistant flip that i do every expansion and i don't understand why not everyone does it

I mean the runes always pump

[oblique trail]

buy wow tokens

very insane flip

irl money to ingame

[drowsy iron]

Yep

[oblique trail]

best gold per hour

[drowsy iron]

Well no shit

[coarse nest]

Real

[gaunt moat]

I bought 2k runes at around 1000 golds

[drowsy iron]

But real money is for real money flipping

[hard widget]

Banezi dropping the mic on us

[covert void]

where do you even go to do m+ boosts? wanted to do it last season. 😂

[gaunt moat]

They're around 2k now

[sullen dove]

idk if u make 20 dollars an hr thats like what 300k an hr?

could run 2 or more dungeons under that time

L rmt

[gaunt moat]

There are discord dedicated to that

[drowsy iron]

Why would I use real money for wow money when I can use real money for real cryptobro gambling

[sullen dove]

based

[gaunt moat]

But you gotta have big boy rio fast bullyybeef

[drowsy iron]

Wow money is so easy to make

Well

That's not true

But it can be

[coarse nest]

Not really you can have only 3k io to sell 10s

That’s pretty decent gold

[covert void]

I joined a random vault filler once and they paid me because they were carrying someone. was easy af. pretty sure it was something similar

[coarse nest]

But selling high end keys is the best gold of course

[drowsy iron]

The biggest meme flip so far has been handful of pebbles
Some guy on NA bought them all out at once and reset them from 15g to 50g because "they made him uncomfortable"

[covert void]

yeah exactly that, was 3k+ and a 10

what discord allows me to do that 😂 was easiest gold ever.

[drowsy iron]

Who pays for boosts?

[warm crag]

[drowsy iron]

The goldmakers? Lmao

[gaunt moat]

Ppl who uses tsm and are better than us at using the AH

[drowsy iron]

Well

Yeah they have like 8 accounts w tuna cans so they don't have to leave their desk

[oblique trail]

People who have disposable income and want to buy a boost because they're either too bad to do it themself/don't have time to commit to do it (or just don't want to do that content but needs the loot from it)

[devout totem]

you would be surprised by the amount of ppl who are buying tokens then boosts

[drowsy iron]

That is surprising actually but this is the 2nd time I've heard of big money from boosts

[forest berry]

what have you crafted at 590 ilvl guys ? just curious

[oblique trail]

Boosting has always been a very good source of money

[devout totem]

made 4M gold during DF with boosts

[drowsy iron]

Another goblin I know is a literal goblin in game who makes money boosting so he can flip

[oblique trail]

Maybe not as lucrative as having a massive setup of AH flipping

[drowsy iron]

You just post a macro in services?

[oblique trail]

But for those who prefer just playing the game and not sitting at the AH, boosting is the best way

[gaunt moat]

That's my main source of income since some dude from here showed me in bfa

[oblique trail]

Advertisers do that

Boosters just login, join a raid, clear the raid, then get paid later

[warm crag]

Less soul draining

[drowsy iron]

Yeah there's no group farms that would beat that gold

Altho it seems more logistically annoying to setup and keep it moving quickly

[gaunt moat]

It's even easier since you can trade between servers now

[smoky vale]

there is no group farm that beats working a job for 4 hours and swiping 🙂

[oblique trail]

Communities are pretty setup by now

[eternal sundial]

bad boosts are incredibly soul draining

[gaunt moat]

Before you had gold swapping discord servers aswell

[oblique trail]

And have systems in place to make it better

[gaunt moat]

[clever belfry]

and explicitly against TOS

[oblique trail]

But people are still very dumb who manage it

[clever belfry]

wish blizz bonked those fucking leeches again

[drowsy iron]

Yes yes we all make money here

[smoky vale]

i dont

[oblique trail]

shrinks your head

[clever belfry]

so we could make a lot more by boosting mythic again :)

[oblique trail]

Very true

[smoky vale]

most of my gold has come from me selling a boe or trading sod gold

[eternal sundial]

fated also rlly bad for fyrakk mount sales

got too easy

[smoky vale]

What did it end up dropping to

16 > 1?

[oblique trail]

Like 2.5-3mill

[rigid stirrup]

I'm a dirty booster 😦

[oblique trail]

Think my lowest cut was 250k from a 2x mount sale

[rigid stirrup]

It's good for m+ practice first month or two of the season

[eternal sundial]

idk man i despise boosting keys with randoms

especially kazzakians

[drowsy iron]

Maybe I've been sleeping on boosting
My whole strat is taking advantage of goblins but this seems like the ultimate

[eternal sundial]

its also just the freeest 99.9 avg in hc imaginable

if u do the boring boosting

[clever belfry]

hc logs

777777777777

[eternal sundial]

so real andus

[rigid stirrup]

I miss my s3 boosting crew 😦

[covert void]

someone hook me up I always get bored later in the season, espc with vault fillers. wouldn't mind boosting m+

[oblique trail]

My HC logs are a core part of my identity as a human

[clever belfry]

think i didnt get a singular in hc on warr last xpac

[smoky vale]

when you arent consistently raiding mythic like during fated all i had was heroic logs

[oblique trail]

I got a 100 on mythic Dathea first Fated week 😎 (very relevant)

[eternal sundial]

ok but u have it on mythic so who cares

[smoky vale]

yeah i did not get anything relevant

[rigid stirrup]

Parses meme anyways

[clever belfry]

smolderon awakened here 😎

[rigid stirrup]

You're not hitting 100s unless you're on hard-core farm

[eternal sundial]

i got rank 2 on sark im so trash

[proud vessel]

how do u guys get crafters as alliance there are very few here...

[clever belfry]

i hit 100 on my aug on our fyrakk prog kill

bozo

the pub logs before just didnt know how to play aug

[rigid stirrup]

Lol aug

[oblique trail]

holy

very nice picture

[hard widget]

Ew dathea

[rigid stirrup]

I liked no platform dathea

[golden hare]

wow you do so much damage! what is your rotation?

[clever belfry]

aug parses are easy in one way, hard in another

and by hard i mean

[oblique trail]

I drink 10 thousand beers then I press rampage

[clever belfry]

getting close to optimal on aug is much harder than warr

but this also means, other people are dogshit at it too 👍

[warm crag]

Wow you are so cool do you play warr?

[clever belfry]

,

[hard widget]

I mean it isnt entirely in ur control as aug which sucks

[clever belfry]

neither is playing any dps

mechanics, proc rng

[hard widget]

I mean true, but i think for aug it is even more out of ur control

[golden hare]

i do actually, how did you know?

[rigid stirrup]

Get out of melee for more than 5 seconds 🙃

[clever belfry]

i get to call my dps players fucking idiots on global

[eternal sundial]

famously big aug knower here

big raider too

[hard widget]

Xd

[warm crag]

[golden hare]

[oblique trail]

[warm crag]

Rogue on smolderon throwback

[eternal sundial]

[hard widget]

Lmao, im not claiming to be. I did play some aug in raid / m+ tho

[clever belfry]

lets just say most people are severly unaware as how to optimize aug properly in raid

[rigid stirrup]

Anyone else's guild see an influx of warrior alts

[clever belfry]

no

we have 2 "main" warrs and 0 warr alts

cause they all know they wont get to play warr as long as i exist 😔

[rigid stirrup]

I went from being the only war to now seeing 4 alts on roster sheet

[oblique trail]

@gleaming siren smash is my favourite warrior alt

Spomgiewarr close second

[clever belfry]

@gleaming siren schmongie

[eternal sundial]

lots of alts but only 2 will see mythic

we had our rogue on war in fated and i didnt notice until 7 bosses in cuz he wasnt visible

[warm crag]

Spomgiewarr too powerful @solemn plover

[devout totem]

[rigid stirrup]

In my case I'm the only one that sees mythic. Unless our Sunday night mythic alt raid becomes a thing

[clever belfry]

z e r o relevant ones

[oblique trail]

need more warlocks

[clever belfry]

one of them will never play that

cause aug

another aswell cause "main" hunt

[eternal sundial]

idk at least for us u can tell the diff betwen main warriors and alt like a lot

and while the gap is that big theres no point

also i.e. the rogue slams on rogue so why change

[rigid stirrup]

One guy in our raid is actually p good but he's our main paliden so he can't swap

[iron portal]

Do you still play hunter along with war or not anymore

[smoky vale]

I remember I was trailing for a guild and they threw some rat warrior into mythic was not even close

[rigid stirrup]

We posting roster sheet now?

[eternal sundial]

WARRIOR LOCKED SPEC CRINGE DETECTED

just be dps warrior

[clever belfry]

i posted alt

[smoky vale]

I think im main war

90% sure other is just hc

[rigid stirrup]

It had main and off spec lol

[smoky vale]

thank god

[rigid stirrup]

But both are there

After playing arms for s4 I never wanna touch the spec ever again

[smoky vale]

why

[eternal sundial]

slayer arm is better in st

you better

[smoky vale]

what is wrong with s4 arms?

[rigid stirrup]

I just don't like arms

[eternal sundial]

L

you WILL rage starve

[clever belfry]

i mean current arms

is fucking dog ass tier

[eternal sundial]

you WILL crit gamba

[smoky vale]

current arms is so shit

[clever belfry]

its pre hfc wod levels of trash

[eternal sundial]

sl prepatch arms was a bit worse

but yea

[sullen dove]

Think not anymore

[rigid stirrup]

But the gap was big enough in s4 that I had to switch or else I'd be inting sales

[smoky vale]

spamming op and ms is fun 🙂

[sullen dove]

as per xantage

[clever belfry]

american

[smoky vale]

holding for slam is not fun

[clever belfry]

oh shit 1%!!!!

[eternal sundial]

xantage not right then

[warm crag]

American

[clever belfry]

while being twicea s tanky!!!

oh no!!!

[smoky vale]

id rather never play warrior again than play current arms

🙂

[rigid stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/merica-bald-eagle-eagle-america-american-gif-2277187416326490184

[eternal sundial]

arms is always doomed s1

it is what is is

[forest berry]

if i have to play arms i would rather play dkf

[clever belfry]

bfa s1 arms was

FINE

[eternal sundial]

im thinkin sl and df

[warm crag]

Shadowlands noob

[eternal sundial]

didnt play bfa

[clever belfry]

okay zoomer

SL player

[eternal sundial]

you cant tell me signet ravager arms

with condemn wasnt aids

[sullen dove]

SL goated bring it back

Mbg fury rotation in keys

[warm crag]

It was almost the same as prepatch arms

[eternal sundial]

"rotation"

[warm crag]

But when it does no damage u cry

[eternal sundial]

[clever belfry]

shut up

this should be a banable message

[warm crag]

Suspicious?

[sullen dove]

Bladestorm > ww > ww > ww > ww > ramp > ww > ww > ww > ww

[eternal sundial]

i think prepatch sl arms is the worst iteration ive played

[warm crag]

Then you are a noob

[smoky vale]

how is that fun

[eternal sundial]

fof fury its S3 fury cuz HOLY FUCK that tierset double gamba

[smoky vale]

i think the pfp is getting to you swordish

[sullen dove]

30 second bladestorm is pog

[warm crag]

We must cook swordish

[sullen dove]

🍳

[oblique trail]

MBG was bad and I hope they never bring it back (for Fury)

[eternal sundial]

perish under the blacksmithing hammer

(for achievement)

((ingame))

[clever belfry]

mbg = mega based gaming

[sullen dove]

Flat earthen

[warm crag]

My boose goose??

[sullen dove]

real

[clever belfry]

legion (the one every likes) didnt have MBG, yet u spammed WW

[buoyant salmon]

but spear in sl for fury was so insanely good

[oblique trail]

Yeah and that is shit gameplay

[warm crag]

No one that played legion is still alive

[buoyant salmon]

ppl cope and lie about legion all the time

[clever belfry]

ure 12

[oblique trail]

Spongie real age revealed

[eternal sundial]

4th legion arms cope of the week

[warm crag]

If I jokingly agree I will break tos...

[modest condor]

mbg was great

a cooldown that changes your rotation?

and that makes your aoe more than just "st but maintain ww stacks"?

yes pls

[eternal sundial]

gg lost his account to that

[eternal sundial]

cook him too

🥚

[onyx fox]

I need to hear it from the pve gamers. Is pvp cringe?

[oblique trail]

Your AoE instead becomes "WW and press rampage every 3rd/4th GCD"

Instead of ST but maintain WW

[eternal sundial]

pvpers are cringe

the mode itself is ait

[onyx fox]

Thank you

[gleaming siren]

this is you

[oblique trail]

He wields the Gavel

Unstoppable

[clever belfry]

🅱️avel

[gleaming siren]

I paid 300k for that gavel (real and true)

[oblique trail]

Go back into Schlüssel and make the gold back

[onyx fox]

Irl crypto currency true

[clever belfry]

schmidi will be boosting his gold pet again

[warm crag]

No, spomgiewarr is more powerful than me

[clever belfry]

for 10000000000000m gold per hour

[gleaming siren]

real

love when buyer is in my most played with raider.io recap

[oblique trail]

you must make a great team

[fading sky]

ngl this looks like the true warrior

[warm crag]

My brother you are cooked

You are in my most played peepo blush

[gleaming siren]

blushing

[pearl sequoia]

you guys gonna be using rank 1 pots or 3

like 2k g per on my AH lol

(please say 3 im selling them)

[azure meadow]

I used rank 2 all season 4 lol

It was like 1 20th the cost of rank 3

[eternal sundial]

couldron from guildmate

[pearl sequoia]

find alch kinda stupid to be honest, near maxed out skills and still in rank 1 crafts

[delicate thicket]

u dont have near maxed out skills

ur not even close

[pearl sequoia]

for crafting specific stuff yes

i

do

[delicate thicket]

please click through the specialization pages and have a look

good luck

you may think its stupid but you really are nowhere near maxed

[pearl sequoia]

well i guess if i maxed the specific herb types

same amount of points in blacksmithing gets you T5 weapons

seems balanced

[eternal sundial]

i mean the BS thing if you do weps

youll have r1 alloys

[delicate thicket]

yeah it takes a lot more points

[eternal sundial]

cant make stones

cant make tools

cant make armor

[pearl sequoia]

im concentrating for dem alloys

feels gud man

[oblique trail]

Stones are also gigafuck expensive to craft

[eternal sundial]

ye alloys are ait

[oblique trail]

Compared to oils

[eternal sundial]

[eternal sundial]

3k and sell for 5k

is ait

[oblique trail]

yeah let me just buy stones for 5k

instead of oils

[eternal sundial]

but it does cost brainpower for the skill i have rn cuz im alloys

(i didnt look at oils)

but ppl are buying em xdd

[clever belfry]

no one

is gonna use stones

get a grippus

[eternal sundial]

they still sell

but its not my main crafts so idrc

[fiery tide]

apart from enrage and whirlwind stacks, what are some other important buffs to keep track off?

[oblique trail]

Your CDs

[eternal sundial]

of dot

Aj buff

[oblique trail]

The OF dot honestly is incredibly irrelevant

[eternal sundial]

marked fo exec debuff (imo)

[pearl sequoia]

bloodbath crit

[eternal sundial]

no

[storm rune]

Dont need to track exe or bb

[eternal sundial]

its useless info 99% of time

[oblique trail]

Tracking the OF dot at least is just irrelevant fluff, because you'll Avatar -> BS anyway

And by the time BS is over you can OF again and wont munch the debuff

[fiery tide]

should i track both the cooldown and duration of cds or just the cooldown?

[eternal sundial]

both

go on wago.io and look at some class packs maybe

[pearl sequoia]

I like it, stack it up for pvp dump

[delicate thicket]

yeah I don't see the point when playing RA

[eternal sundial]

and adjust em accordinly

[fiery tide]

dont really like big wa, so im just trying to make something smaller

[eternal sundial]

mhm i see

id track reck/bs/ava/roar/of and then the 3 or 4 buffs

since u can combine reck/ava buffs and cds with 1 icon

[summer quail]

i just took luxthos and made it smaller myself

[fiery tide]

whats bs?

[buoyant salmon]

bullshit

[oblique trail]

Bladestorm

[buoyant salmon]

typo

mb

[charred relic]

are sims working?
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/aCBHfG7Rg5g6ree7nG4v95
this looks weird

[buoyant salmon]

yes

damage trinkets are better with lower ilvl

[oblique trail]

Bro you're using an agi/int trinket

[charred relic]

HAHAHA

[sour frigate]

[charred relic]

sorry monk main im stupid

[sour frigate]

I was just about to say

[buoyant salmon]

oh lol i thought the question was about the boomerand and purple shit simming higher than ara kara lol

[errant vessel]

ye because of lack of content ingame

[charred relic]

i should read more

[oblique trail]

That aside, yes the sims are correct

Would recommend swapping to nightly/latest though in the future

[errant vessel]

how do you make suggestions on APL btw

[oblique trail]

Especially during this period where a lot of things are still changing

Bring it up to Archi/anyone who contributes to the APL

[errant vessel]

found a 200k increase on slayer mt rotation

[sour frigate]

[clever belfry]

time to at everyone

[oblique trail]

@ everyone

[pearl sequoia]

wait what the oils to use instead of stones

[buoyant salmon]

what is it

[oblique trail]

They're omega cheap to craft compared to stones

[errant vessel]

actions.slayer_mt+=/execute,if=talent.ashen_juggernaut&buff.ashen_juggernaut.remains<=gcd&buff.enrage.up|buff.sudden_death.up

literally just the "sudden death" part

[pearl sequoia]

Ah thanks

[oblique trail]

And iirc they're basically equal/better than stones

[errant vessel]

which might pull SD ahead in talents as well

but it's prob mostly because it always happens when 3x MfE

[buoyant salmon]

what did you drop for sd

[errant vessel]

don't remember how to apply the logic debuff.marked_for_execution.count=3

it's mainly TTR that's being dropped iirc

[fickle bluff]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/97yKeMGHbVJGXqAz54jGUx
idk where youre getting 200k from

[pastel oriole]

yo sorry for newb question - on wowhead it says our bis mainhand is wild hammer that drops from grim batol? is that not a war within dungeon? im confused

[oblique trail]

Grim Batol is a cataclysm dungeon

[buoyant salmon]

its an m+ dungeon this season

[quick zodiac]

It is part of the m+ rotation

[oblique trail]

But they're bringing back 4 old and 4 of the TWW dungeons in S1

[pastel oriole]

ah so cant get it until the 10th or whatever

[oblique trail]

They will then rotate into the last 4 TWW dungeons, and another 4 old dungeons in S2

Correct

[pastel oriole]

ok ty ty

[oblique trail]

Or rather, I'm 99% sure

[quick zodiac]

Prayage for better dungs next patch

[buoyant salmon]

i dont think u can do old dungeons on m0

[oblique trail]

Their posts haven't been exactly super certain that you have M0 for the S1 dungeons both old and new, or maybe my reading comprehension is just shit

[buoyant salmon]

but maybe im wrong

[summer quail]

the war within dungeons are much better in s2 imo. who knows about the other 4

[buoyant salmon]

there will still be 4 shit (tww) dungeons

even if the kther 4 are bangers

[quick zodiac]

Meant the random once

I like all tww dungs besides dawnbreaker atm

[buoyant salmon]

why

theyre all awful to play

[vague fern]

what is the two best trinkets to have before season 1 comes out? the sac trinket im guessing is 1.. whats the other?

[buoyant salmon]

every single one

[oblique trail]

Skarmorak Shard from Stonevault

[quick zodiac]

I am playing skaro and sac*

[errant vessel]

Idk might be using a diff apl

[summer quail]

rookery,cinderbrew and darkflame cleft are all pretty good. tho cleft might become tedious with the darkness part(PoE delve moment)

[errant vessel]

Rechecking when I get home ig

[summer bobcat]

why is our M+ AOE talents as same as Raiding multi target? it seems odd doesnt it?

[vague fern]

whats skaro?

[oblique trail]

Doesn't seem odd no

[vague fern]

t yty

[buoyant salmon]

and last boss having that dumbass intro thing

[oblique trail]

Our ST and AoE talent setups are very similar

[buoyant salmon]

cinderbrew first boss (lol)

[oblique trail]

And you only really swap from a few talents over to WW talents

[quick zodiac]

Stonevault trink if I remember correctly

[buoyant salmon]

cinderbew last 4 guys are fonna take half a dynasty

[summer bobcat]

so you think we wouldnt lack on ST phases?

[buoyant salmon]

other than that its fine

[oblique trail]

Nope

[summer bobcat]

fair

[oblique trail]

We sacrifice very little ST for AoE

[buoyant salmon]

rookery first boss having that stupid ass middle phase is criminal

[quick zodiac]

Our st feels pretty good with m+ build atm

I like it

[buoyant salmon]

other than that, that ones actually good i forgot about that dungeon

[warm crag]

st is still incredibly important for m+ yknow

[teal river]

what the heck is nerub armor? cant find it

[summer quail]

ye true. rest of the dungeon is a banger, really hope they make him closer to the edge so we can hit him

[buoyant salmon]

if u want the most st for a raiding cleave build just drop the 2 talents for ww

and nothing else

[quick zodiac]

Think it increases nerub bellishments or buffs it

[oblique trail]

It's this

[teal river]

ah, assuming we only use this IF embelish on wep?

[quick zodiac]

Are u guys gonna craft sword nxt week?

[oblique trail]

If you use a Nerubian embellishment yes

[quick zodiac]

Or are u waiting a bit

[oblique trail]

I will wait till Mythic week

Don't need crafted items for HC week

[quick zodiac]

Fair

[oblique trail]

And anything can change during HC week

[quick zodiac]

Love that we get weap from first boss again

[warm crag]

i wouldnt listen to banezi he has already crafted and just wants to boost his parses in comparison to you

[oblique trail]

i wouldnt listen to banezi spongie he has already crafted and just wants to boost his parses in comparison to you

[buoyant salmon]

spongie is padder i confirm

[warm crag]

i wouldnt listen to ~~banezi ~~~~spongie ~~ banezi he has already crafted and just wants to boost his parses in comparison to you

[oblique trail]

fucked up

[warm crag]

can you stop screaming in my ear for 2 minutes?

[oblique trail]

ok I just did

[south kayak]

Your pfp really works well with the yellow name and the "check the pins"

[pastel oriole]

where can i get a good 2h wep

[warm crag]

craft one ig

[clever belfry]

@oblique trail what is ur favourite dungeon

[oblique trail]

Idk I don't really do dungeons, but I think UR/Freehold

[rose crag]

is there any info out yet on darkmoon decks? worth?

[oblique trail]

Also liked both Upper/lower Kara but my opinion on those are purely from at most a +20 PoV

[oblique trail]

You can use them for easy ilvl but otherwise not worth over dungeon/raid trinkets

[rose crag]

@oblique trail tyty

[south kayak]

[burnt kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/how-to-train-your-dragon-gif-23356423

[thorny shoal]

HoJ + Ironfoe, smf is so back bros 🤤 . o O ( )

[spare steppe]

Wait they shared the purple versions in the article too?

[orchid dagger]

Inb4 it actually is

[spare steppe]

I want ironfoe for prot

[vagrant imp]

So i get to be a swirling flurry of fire and lightning, bring it

[south kayak]

It might be mid but a it's a decent amount of damage for a high proc trinket (2 sec ICD)

[solemn plover]

I am insane

[south kayak]

SMF Is back

[fickle bluff]

rppm extra melee swings would actually be better for TG

but its not melee attacks anyway so

wont stop people from asking about it though

[spare steppe]

Ah damnit changed, I miss og

[fickle bluff]

none of those items were melee swings anyway at this point

[south kayak]

OG was good because of auto attack damage was pretty high in classic

it's not anymore

[fiery jetty]

THE BIG COMEBACK ↨

[red berry]

Heh :)

[timid prairie]

lfr itemlevel :^)

yuge

[runic cypress]

Raid is available in heroic too

[spare steppe]

One of these items will be bis for outlaw

Which is hilarious

[timid prairie]

if normal has lfr ilvl heroic is probably gonna be 606+

[vagrant imp]

Time to make a Double Barman Shanker rogue again.

[errant vessel]

ok so idk why, but it's 200k when unbuffed and 31k diff when fully buffed (current gear, not bis)

I just tried toggling Skyfury on and off, and that seems to be making the gap smaller for some reason

[raw token]

Hey is the new earthen race a big dps or not that bad?

[clever path]

Anybody done the math on Tempered Flask vs Mastery Flask? Wondering if the difference is small enough that I can get away with just using Mastery flasks.

[fickle bluff]

mastery flasks are tempered flasks?

if you mean elemental chaos, the single stat flasks are much worse because of how the potion works

[clever path]

well I'd also use a stat potion assuming it exists in TWW

Dunno just dont like the idea of my mainstat changing every 30s am I boomed

[fickle bluff]

just go and read what they all do because you sound very confused about it

[clever path]

dont think im confused, one is 7600 random stat every 30s, the other is 2800 of the stat i want all the time

[fickle bluff]

your potions are all secondary stats not granted by your current TEMPERED flask
or 4% damage

flasks are elemental choas
or a tempered flask for a stat

i think youre thinking about "stat prio" too much

you dont care about what stat it is when you get so much more

[oblique trail]

You also get more total stat from your Chaos Flask, by albeit not a huge amount, than if you use a normal tempered Flask

[clever path]

word thanks for breakin it down

i care abt mastery too much in my initial concern then makes sense

[vernal sage]

Im sure its been posted just cant seem to find it but when should I focus more on haste over mastery as Fury?

[past pivot]

when sims recommend it

[oblique trail]

When your top gear sims tell you to

[edgy widget]

they're not entirely, guides were (almost) all updated last night, so there's some new stuff there now

[vernal sage]

sorry guys im new to this been using pawn but doesn't seem right.. what sim addon you guys recommend?

[past pivot]

simcraft and raidbots.com

[oblique trail]

Simulationcraft, and learning how to use Raidbots

There are guides, and videos, on how to use it

It might be a bit intimidating at first, but it's quick to pick up and the best tool to figure out your potential upgrades

[vernal sage]

ty guys gonna check those out now

[spare steppe]

Question are great to ask heee too, once you sim you never go back

[ashen pendant]

datamined some 8 target soft caps? sad

[wind token]

it was already capped

[ashen pendant]

oh the wording just wasnt in the tooltip?

[timid prairie]

yes

[ionic bone]

Guys, why do we get one handers in fury specialisation? is one hand dual wield gonna be a viable option for fury in tww ?

[storm rune]

cuz blizzard are trolls

[ionic bone]

i see.. so we need to switch loot to arms in both raid and dungeons

[storm rune]

only way

[warm pewter]

this is the way

[past pivot]

Just stay in Arms loot spec. Only difference is no pesky 1handers

[ionic bone]

is it mistake to make a 606 weapon with spark right now with the Dawnthread Lining embelishment, i will be playing mostly M+ and i'm not really familiar with the crafting system

[past pivot]

yes, wait till you can make a higher ilvl one

[wooden tide]

For raid pots/flasks (I was reading Greg’s post but still a little confused), we are wanting to use the flask of alchemical chaos for raid (hourly buff) and then pop tempered pots for fights?

[spare steppe]

Wait on crafting any embellishments as well, there may be additional tuning

[ionic bone]

Gear is irrelevent in m0 anyway i gues, and we can easily gear from there

[alpine haven]

I walk in with WoD gear in m0

[warm pewter]

you think you'll be getting a full set of m0 gear or smth?

[ionic bone]

well they reset daily

[spare steppe]

M0 is going to be a little more punishing than I think people are aware

Like yes if you know your class and have decent gear it’ll be fine

[ionic bone]

580 should be more than enough i think

[spare steppe]

But some folks are going to MDI pull and learn fast

[warm pewter]

cant wait for the tank to pull like its an heroic and just fold like a sack of shit lmao

[spare steppe]

Like m0 now is so different than m0 from 2 seasons ago

And all the folks returning not realizing that

[alpine haven]

it's gonna be ez

[errant vessel]

Hey! I did some testing with the APL earlier and got a ~200k dps increase on 5t MT (unbuffed) by adding "|debuff.marked_for_execute.stack=3" to the top Execute line. This seems to reduce down to a 31k increase when Skyfury buff is active. Any idea why?

[ionic bone]

I've been wondering.. if a pack lives long enough to send all cds, we should send them all right? no point saving something for next pack and if the pack dies fast, we should only use odyns as it only has 45 sec and use everything on the pack that actually lives for our whole burst combo right

[edgy widget]

guess would be maybe something related to Rage income, but 200k -> 31k is a pretty huge swing

if you wanna link them I can take a better look

[edgy widget]

generally yes, with some considerations for things like route planning, what's coming next, etc - sitting on cds is just wasted damage

[errant vessel]

How do I toggle off Skyfury in advanced sim?

Just to structure it a little better for you

[ionic bone]

but in cases like fighting just 3 mobs that will die fast and next pack is gonna be 5+ mobs it's better to save em i think

[woeful token]

In a situation where I am not enraged and have 5 stacks of AJ, is it better to cast raging blow or execute?

[ionic bone]

isn't execute always better even at 0 stacks ?

[storm rune]

no

fury exe is weak asf

[errant vessel]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/p7ifNHwxgqEcDmowuMD4VF

[storm rune]

We do prio sudden death, but exe is mainly just a good filler spell

[errant vessel]

Idk how to turn off buffs in Advanced so here's the first one

nvm actually

I'm mentally unwell

completely misread

it's a 1.3% increase still

[edgy widget]

have to add the line commands; often trips people up

[civic falcon]

After the CD opener are you aligning Bladestorm with the next set of cds or are you just sending bladestorm when its ready?

[spare steppe]

<10s left on avatar wait, otherwise send BS

[civic falcon]

Gracias big boy

[cosmic comet]

Rampage got any change ? i was testing in dummies and the dmg is kinda high, with ST talents

[south kayak]

Buffs mostly

Since DF

[runic violet]

Last season I played fury was DF S2... and my instinct is still fixated to use rampage whenever available

[lament ocean]

what addon is showing the casts bars?

i only downloaded a WA for whirlwin earlier but these bars just strted showing up just now

[past pivot]

Bigwigs looks like

[lament ocean]

i dont have bigwigs

does plater do this? im illterate when it comes to addons lol

[smoky vale]

it has to be dbm or bigwigs

could also be littlewigs

but that requires bigwigs

[lament ocean]

ive had dbm for so long and never touched it

ahhhh

[polar fulcrum]

How are you guys liking warrior so far? Is fury worth it to play?

[broken kindle]

why does mountain thane feels so much better than slayer in dungeons?

[past pivot]

Because heroic dungeons are a joke where everything dies in seconds

[odd nimbus]

I Know It's A Fury Channel But Anyone Have A Prot Talent ?

Wanna ask Something About it

[summer bobcat]

i mean except 1 talent tree, they are the same but people told me that we have almost thee same build so it does make sense, thank u for your response

[past pivot]

#protection

[odd nimbus]

I Asking but No one AWnser Sadly

[past pivot]

It's morning Saturday/evening Friday. Check the FAQs?

[fading bane]

Well you definetly wont get one here

But ye just go guide

[past pivot]

Check the Arms channel. 😄

[edgy widget]

generally yeah, aside from some specific situations where you wanna go like... half AoE, the only major difference between raid multitarget and Mythic+ is that you won't take all the extra stun talents

[spare steppe]

I’m having a blast playing it

It feels incredible smooth for me

[polar fulcrum]

cool

[spare steppe]

Arms is satisfying too but doesn’t feel as smooth, can’t explain why

[burnt kelp]

Arms is the most boring melee in single target

Fury is fun tho

Would recommend

[mossy pelican]

let's say you're jumping into a pack with no coolies, no enrage, and full rage bar, is it better to open with ww into rampage or rampage into ww? is it too negligible to matter?

[keen kindle]

Cleave your rampage man

[mossy pelican]

tight

[keen kindle]

Like one of the main cavats of fury's rotation is you only hold rampage if ur gonna cleave it. You're kinda just...loosing free damage if you don't

[mossy pelican]

i guess the guide kinda says that but my reading comprehension is through the floor sometimes so just wanted someone to tell me it's gonna be ok

[dense elbow]

🫂 it's gonna be ok

[white stream]

What people was talking about warrior utility

[olive wraith]

I hate that post cause it’s a 3min cooldown isn’t it

[slim grotto]

two new 3min CDs = one new interrupt every 90sec 🤔

[alpine tree]

Hello

[summer bobcat]

yeah that's what i wanted to know about going like half AOE because i havent seen boss fights yet so I wanted to be fully ready for the raid

[spare steppe]

Doesn’t interrupt anymore, just resets casting

Stops are still good but not as broken as DF

[olive wraith]

At that point you could just bee Tauren

[dense elbow]

Tauren got two stops?

[white stream]

Back when be had aoe silence everybody on m+ was chaining it will full be comp

Full drach comp inc

[dense elbow]

Not to mention, Tauren stun DRs

[olive wraith]

Tauren is 1.5 right?

[white stream]

Never played dracht, what people talk about its mobility so much?

What he can do but glide?

[olive wraith]

Glide is good

[white stream]

Situational isnt ?

[timid prairie]

its like a 30-40% speed buff permanently and for free

https://x.com/PublikPriest/status/1831866174742917199

Publik (@PublikPriest) on X

We are so back

Twitter · Sep 6, 2024, 1:25 AM

[fallen quarry]

Glide is amazing for any class that lacks mobility/ lets you completely negate any knock back

It’s gonna be broken for pvp

[white stream]

Wtf this huge

[timid prairie]

also two aoe pseudo interrupts which probably allows you to unspec whatever aoe knock up/back you currently take for more survivability or dps

[edgy widget]

for Fury, it's not really a concern; you're pretty much either going to go full ST or full AoE (WW, OF, Roar)

it's possible that you might go just ST + OF for a couple fights with regular adds that die so quick you don't get a chance to actually cleave them with WW, but we won't really have a great way of determining that until we see the tuning

[old bronze]

guys is [Thunderous Words] TAllent increasing odyn fury's damage ?

[edgy widget]

it increases the DoT damage, yes

[white stream]

Blood Elf racial used to be an aoe silence and was changed to a purge because everyone was rolling 4-5 blood elves in M+ tournaments and chain silencing pulls. Now you’re going to see 4-5 Dracthyr for the same reason.

Except they’ll be in visage form (not you Aug, get rekt)...so you’ll still see 4-5 blood elves AOE interrupting in M+ tournaments lol.

[old bronze]

ty

[timid prairie]

i think dracthyr will be absoltely nuts in m+ and pvp

in raiding its irrelevant really, but when it matters it probably matters a lot

[white stream]

doubt wont be nerfed

[timid prairie]

will be fun to see if they let people pay for it before the nerf or not

[dense elbow]

If raid wants us to move about, Drak got a big advantage :v

[olive wraith]

It’s 3 mins for non evoker and it’s not an interrupt

[white stream]

" interrupt"

[burnt kelp]

Its 2 every 3 minutes so its pretty close to the old belf one

And all the other shit on top ofc

[white stream]

exactly lol

[timid prairie]

its 2 per dracthyr per 3 minutes

[olive wraith]

Belf was a silence though

[white stream]

just run a m+ with 5 drach

gg

[timid prairie]

its insane on group comp level

[olive wraith]

You just stop the cast twice every 3 minutes

[burnt kelp]

Well I dont really mind, the nelves and dwarves will dwap to dracthyr

[white stream]

u totally missing the point

2 times

10 if optimal comp

gg

[timid prairie]

also if you play a priest that isnt a dracthyr you are not actually griefing lol

[viral jasper]

That is the point lol

[slim grotto]

how is a knock up not an interrupt

[viral jasper]

They make drac broken so everyone pays for race change, then they pay again when it gets shat on

[spare steppe]

Jesus Christ that’s actually absurd

[olive wraith]

They recast it after cc

[slim grotto]

this guy gets it

[timid prairie]

its wild yeah

[olive wraith]

Priest dragon makes sense

[viral jasper]

That being said i am gonna do it

[white stream]

why do you think race change is on discount?

[olive wraith]

Priest feels so slow

[white stream]

lmao

[dense elbow]

Interupt, is an ingame function, like pummel - that stops a cast, putting it on CD. Interupt, as a term, as interupting something / putting it on halt is a viable use of the word - but causes confusion for some

[south kayak]

Hope they nerf the Racials again, what they did wasn't enough

[burnt kelp]

if I was blizzard, I'd release the op dracthyr racials and nerf them 1 year later, and release a new op race

and do that every year

call it the fotm tax

[timid prairie]

just disable racials in high end content already

really

[runic violet]

Microtransaction prints money. You know WoW mount sales figure is far higher than the entier StarCraft franchise?

[burnt kelp]

nerubians are next

[white stream]

thats when it started

[vague fern]

where are you seeing these? i cant see the loot

[spare steppe]

Make visage race customizable!

[olive wraith]

Idk nelf always seems to be incredibly useful

Same with dwarf

[fiery jetty]

Wowhead

[olive wraith]

Plenty of classes have more than enough stops that’s usually not the issue anyways

[burnt kelp]

yes

[slim grotto]

ngl we use silence when something is put on CD since previously things like pummel did not in fact silence

[burnt kelp]

that's why we delete stoneform and shadowmeld

[timid prairie]

plenty of classes can now spec dps instead of stops

that's kina wild balance wise

[burnt kelp]

so that dwarf and nelf players want to swap to dracthyr even more

🧠

[dense elbow]

Pummel only locks out 1 school of magic, yarp - it is not a silence

[timid prairie]

like mages can just spec out of blast wave

[dense elbow]

it is an interupt

[slim grotto]

a knockup still serves the purpose of interrupting a cast

[runic violet]

It's crazy.... how big of StarCraft Esports scene was (and still going )

[spare steppe]

Dracthyr NE dwarf are the wild ones

[south kayak]

Even if they did, it's not like there's a big dps difference between speccing that and not, especially in their class tree