not gonna survive till the next build
#fury
young swan
livid lake
Blistering scales was changed 10.1.5 to not work with AttT
sudden tusk
gonna die like blistering scales
livid lake
So we can only hope the same happens to LoH
sudden tusk
well its more of a pally issue then us issue
rotund ginkgo
Imagine if it does
modest condor
Blistering scales was changed 10.1.5 to not work with AttT
that's an odd way to write changed before it went live lol
young swan
"yeah sorry no lay on hands I have to use it on CD for our idiot warrior"
livid lake
that's an odd way to write changed before it went live lol
tru
livid lake
"yeah sorry no lay on hands I have to use it on CD for our idiot warrior"
Could you imagine though 
rotund ginkgo
"yeah sorry no lay on hands I have to use it on CD for our idiot warrior"
It's optimal
We need to min max if we're going for wr1000, no?
sudden tusk
if we dont get utility they shouldnt either
livid lake
Dracthyr any good besides having cc?
cedar garden
has it been confirmed that we'll need to level a new char or can we pay for race change?
young swan
there might be an unlock associated
livid lake
At least visage form is really pretty
cedar garden
bah
young swan
but u should be able to just swap
cedar garden
yay
rotund ginkgo
I don't think it'll be 2%
rotund ginkgo
If ur going from a non optimal race, unlike human or dwarf it's for sure a big diff he
Ye
sudden tusk
use the dragonslayer title so i can kill myself by not dodging a mechanic
latent hedge
closer to anni date
frank dawn
Prob be like 6 weeks or so at least. Anniversary is November sometime right?
restive peak
I will absolutely be going drac, it’s too good to pass up
Non DR stops across your whole comp is legit busted, it’s not great on its own but coordinated…very ridiculous. Plus we love free mastery
keen kindle
Tbh just having free double jump is huge
If that's kept
I see no reason it wouldn't be but blizz will probally nuke it
cedar garden
hey guys, wanted to open an invite to anyone that wants to do Wax Farming in Hallowfall. I just created a premade group for the activity. Listed under "Wax Farm"
im trying to grind as many wax gobs before next week, so ill be doing it throughout the weekend
sudden tusk
I will absolutely be going drac, it’s too good to pass up
one thing i heard some people talk about is becuase of the stop changes so they recast it makes it not as good, but id argue it makes it more important
considering its a non DRable ability to delay casts so you can kick them
and if they are constantly channeling a 5 second cast they arent white hitting your tank or spamcasting bolts
keen nimbus
Are most of you war planning on playing with the AM build of RA build?
left perch
Nothing gonna save you from the over tuned consecrate those fkn paladins drop tho
upper lodge
fury pre BiS trinks?
wicked dew
Anyone know if there is a way to get Wax nodes to appear on your minimap or with some alert?
WA or addon or somethin
alpine haven
Nothing gonna save you from the over tuned consecrate those fkn paladins drop th...
totally didn't wipe on a follower dungeon because of that
modest condor
i wipe in follower dungeons because i pull a pack and then alt tab incorrectly assuming the bots can kill it
alpine haven
The worst part is when they just randomly walk around certain objects
just looking around and the dumb ass hunter NPC is confused waddling around pulling 4 packs
modest condor
i've had pulls where the tank was around a corner and the dps just stood there twiddling their thumbs instead of walking 5 steps forward
alpine haven
like ARENT THEY FOLLOWING ME
they are busted in silences though
0.1s silences like absolute gods
modest condor
:D
left perch
yea they got kicks figured out
tank is fun to stress out when his taunt is on cd too
he really tries his best
covert blaze
just looking around and the dumb ass hunter NPC is confused waddling around pull...
So like a regular real hunter
viral jasper
they making drac op to bait everyone to paying for race change before they nerf it
hard quiver
what they really tried to do was to get us to buy them in bulk right before earthen unlocked
noble lotus
So I know the guides say go with radiant ring enchants but is cursed the better option as fury or is the static buff of the radiant enchants too good in comparison?
wicked turret
What food should I be eating for raids? Wowhead says sushi/beledars bounty but im unsure
torpid imp
i just realized that the animation for slayer's strike is the same as shadowstrike from rogue, and now i can't unsee it and it's ruined the hero spec for me
brittle crow
i just realized that the animation for slayer's strike is the same as shadowstri...
i noticed this immediately and quite enjoyed it
i think it makes it better
torpid imp
i'm a warrior not a rogue :kekwait:
brittle crow
the more animations warrior gets to steal, the better
we take other ppl's animations while rampage remains a fury hard exclusive
so does raging blow
W
wicked turret
Anyone know about the food thing?
storm rune
we take other ppl's animations while rampage remains a fury hard exclusive
I'll be honest, every single animation in this game looks the same to me
If it wasn't for the colours on aoe effects I couldn't tell the difference between an arms war and a monk
brittle crow
bruh
..
i know every animation and regularly complain about a couple of em
maybe im the one with the problem
storm rune
hey man, we love what we love
brittle crow
day 1424 of complaining that brewmasters have been unable to use their artifact weapon without serious animation issues because they removed blackout strike
eager thorn
I dont look at animations at all
Only dmg graph
Bladestorm kinda impossible to ignore though
serene vessel
chat, after I rampage, should I be bloodbathing b4 i CB? Feels like if I don't I will sometimes have enrage fall off whereas i dont have that issue if I use bloodbath first
hollow raptor
chat, after I rampage, should I be bloodbathing b4 i CB? Feels like if I don't I...
on aoe yes
serene vessel
maybe this is a gear thing where i simply dont have enough haste
hollow raptor
on ST CB is higher prio
storm rune
You know what I can't get over? The new dwarf is a mouth breather
brittle crow
wait what chestpiece is that
storm rune
If you do the rock dwarf intro it unlocks it, might be the race set?
brittle crow
their race set totally isn't that
storm rune
there's like 3 or 4 sets that unlock
sour tundra
can you get extra sparks of omen on alts if you missed a week? or are you locked to 1 per week
storm rune
their race set totally isn't that
not an official set, but everything under the earthen prefix
you can always catch up to the current total sparks released, the only one's you'll miss out on are if they're received from weekly or one time quests
covert blaze
They just announced some nerfs to some classes' tier sets. Hopefully next they buff some and they buff ours
storm rune
istg if I have to go back to arms
plucky wedge
still is, and you can check it for yourself
ah wowhead didnt have it
young swan
They just announced some nerfs to some classes' tier sets. Hopefully next they ...
lol
lol
lol
nah
just overperformers
covert blaze
2% is criminal
quiet geyser
They just announced some nerfs to some classes' tier sets. Hopefully next they ...
for the most part, the changes just cancel each other out no?
delicate yacht
Just double checking . Everyone has one full spark and one fractured spark right
covert blaze
for the most part, the changes just cancel each other out no?
It's a nerf to the tier sets yes
gilded pawn
That’s probably the intent
covert blaze
Which mean you are less reliable on them
And your class doesn't suffer as much from not having it
gilded pawn
But there’s definitely going to be some mis tuning somewhere
Maybe off by 1-2% on st or aoe
plucky wedge
But currently mechagnome
wow didnt know there was so much variance 10k dps
modest condor
hell yeah tierset tuning for other classes
plucky wedge
in saying that, thats 1.5% i guess
storm rune
Dude in S3 troll was over 2% dps gain
modest condor
oh they're all nerfs
guess we dont lose as much comparatively when they get their tierset then
plucky wedge
dirty horde xd
covert blaze
guess we dont lose as much comparatively when they get their tierset then
No evoker in my team thank god
Regardless of balance, that's not 4 classes on my token
bless
warped bone
Nice tier changes. Seeing they want first tier to have very little impact
carmine hawk
They missed feral and sub rogue but specs sucks so maybe its better that their tier sets are okay
restive granite
i hope they nuke mages
and aug
man how i want the melee cleave meta to be back
sweet old days of bfa when you ran 3 OL or maybe 2 and a warrior dps if your tank is not prot warr
orchid dagger
Aug is fine, but Total Mage Death
restive peak
This was a win for us
serene vessel
good news, fire is completely deadge
restive granite
i can tolerate shadowpriests, mostly theyre fine when i have grouped with them
serene vessel
arcane is the only viable mage spec
restive granite
but mages, holy shit dude its a fucking coinflip 90% of them are dogshit dying to avoidable dmg or not doing jackshit
storm rune
that's one fucked up coin
restive granite
yeah lol
warped bone
Even more fun with mages dying. Is the fact they have great defensives
frank dawn
If you're looking to just farm up a few valorstones what's the play? rares? heroics?
viral jasper
Why not both
warped bone
Dungeon spam. Oooor farm that Wax xD
frank dawn
mm right, wax
dense elbow
If you got the mates, bossrush HC runs are real quick
warped bone
5 wax = 10 whole valor. amazing
frank dawn
AMAZING
final gate
xcxccx
pearl sequoia
wax millionaire
red berry
wax stonks
covert blaze
Ex guildie sent this in their discord
frank dawn
that is gross
covert blaze
He has more than one character like that
red berry
holy shit dude
pearl sequoia
does he burn in the sun
red berry
log off
warped bone
Ex guildie sent this in their discord
What the hell. Has he spent all his time doing wax? I'd get it if the caches wasn't heavily nerfed but now it's only good for valor. Something you will have anyway running M+ O.o
viral jasper
nah its fake he just bought old trash items surely
covert blaze
nah its fake he just bought old trash items surely
It's not
warped bone
I guess. But 4444 wax must take days
Unless there is some ultra spot where it spawns often
covert blaze
Think he's been doing that for a week
viral jasper
or he botting lol
covert blaze
You can't bot wax realistically
viral jasper
that is a lot of mindles looting
warped bone
I kinda wana know what other rewards he got out of it
Seeing you do get some blue mats
So many dif events with wax. That would be one complicated bot 😄
red berry
you can bot wax by just ignoring certain ones
warped bone
Guess one could technically just make one that attacks mobs / doing the pure loot one
indigo arch
is the bee trinket simbait or actually good?
exotic glacier
damn that's a LOT of prep for season 1
indigo arch
Got shard+arakara trinket atm
noble needle
I think it's around 1% chance at a profaned tinderbox every wax
maybe more if the multi wax ones can give more than one
red berry
worth it those toolboxes are good gold
exotic glacier
has the man SLEPT?
warped bone
Ye but herbs/mining would just be way better per hour.
red berry
can do all of the above at the same time
warped bone
Just no way he will ever spend all that wax on valor. And the caches are giga bad after nerf
exotic glacier
what the heck else are you to spend wax on?
warped bone
Obviously he can spend it all on caches. My point was more it seem to be such an odd thing to farm
exotic glacier
i mean, its quite relaxing to do tbh. Ive not got nearly that many, but I could see how a M+ addict could get stuck in on it.
covert blaze
what the heck else are you to spend wax on?
It's for valorstones
exotic glacier
It's for valorstones
thats why I asked what Rahtae was saying abou tnot spending all that wax on Valorstones... what else could it be for?
covert blaze
I mean
You get valorstones from turning in
Has nothing to do with the currency you get for filling the bar right
delicate yacht
You get rained valor stones for m0 , delves and raid so you won't be low
exotic glacier
the gems or whatever after turning in 10 times?
exotic glacier
You get rained valor stones for m0 , delves and raid so you won't be low
tell that to the dude with like 4k wax sitting in his bags
delicate yacht
Well all the content he does on Tuesday will over cap,
exotic glacier
the wax doesnt turn into valor stones until you turn it in. so its a way to bank OVER the cap
but its such a ludicrosly high amount
covert blaze
Well all the content he does on Tuesday will over cap,
That's the point of farming wax
delicate yacht
8 m0 per day is a crazy amount of incoming valor
warped bone
thats why I asked what Rahtae was saying abou tnot spending all that wax on Valo...
The point was more. That amount will never be used up on valor stones. Seeing you will also get valor by running M+ spam
It is a bank of valorstones sure. But no way you need 4444
exotic glacier
must be so. It's crazy
delicate yacht
You won't have enough gear to out spend it, is all I'm saying
But saving some up for the initial surge is fine I guess
delicate yacht
Cause the activities we are going to do on Tuesday is just like going to dump stones
warped bone
8888 of valor tho :D?
delicate yacht
I probably have a thousand banked up
And it could be overkill
But there also is very little to do in the game right now
runic cypress
Wax farming isn't that bad as people make it out to be especially when some events give you up to 14 wax
warped bone
A bit funny his limiting factor will be crests. Something he will get by running content that gives valorstones.
warped bone
Not like it's challenging or anything. Just don't understand the lenght he went on it. Seeing he apperently did it on more than 1 char
runic cypress
Shit man getting 80 glimms is way more expensive then the shitty gem you get for it
Should have gone with flasks
tulip swallow
Look inside tier set tuning, no fury 
warped bone
Is there a good way to get greens btw? Other than sitting in trade chat saying WTB Greens for 200-250g
runic cypress
Leveling new chara with enchanting to disenchant quest rewards
warped bone
Doubt we will see any buffs to tier Albinodonkey. It's s1 first tier. They want it to have little impact
runic cypress
Is there a good way to get greens btw? Other than sitting in trade chat saying W...
Join any of the farming groups or farm high level mobs by yourself
warped bone
Leveling new chara with enchanting to disenchant quest rewards
Well that sounds horrid 😄
runic cypress
The elite bees or shredders
warped bone
I farmed the elites for 2 hours in Azj zone. The area where you can have NPCs with you doing massive dmg
Got me a whole 13 greens and 4 blue BoEs did not feel worth 😄
runic cypress
If you're after dust might be better to just farm wax
warped bone
the caches only grant between 10 to 14 dust tho after nerf
I did some wax farm early when it gave 60 dust
runic cypress
the caches only grant between 10 to 14 dust tho after nerf
Really? Haha suck it
Glad I made like 200k from them early on
warped bone
At least i hadn't stacked wax high before i noticed
runic cypress
Gonna buy the ore satchels next
warped bone
All satchels have been gutted sadly
runic cypress
Piss guess I'm never doing wax again
modest condor
Ex guildie sent this in their discord
mfs will do anything but log out
brittle crow
Ex guildie sent this in their discord
season 1 launch notes: wax can no longer be turned in for valorstones
sullen dove
lol
damn its crazy how i set up every consumable listed on wowhead guide from nothing and u gain 90k sim dps
consumables good ig who woulda thought
red berry
if you hand in 999 wax, we send a wellness check
empty mirage
is there a weakaura for the slayer execute thing
sullen dove
770k before to 860k now lol
warped bone
is there a weakaura for the slayer execute thing
What part. It being available or the part where it gives bladestorm more hits?
empty mirage
like the 15% buff that stacks
runic cypress
if you hand in 999 wax, we send a wellness check
You get banned for a week with the reason "Touch grass turbonerd"
tulip swallow
is there a weakaura for the slayer execute thing
if you only care about stacks of the debuff that's easy, if you care more about where you are in relation to the next sudden death proc that's harder
red berry
out of concern for your health, we have banned you for 24 hours. Please check your Vitamin D levels.
tulip swallow
They're only really different in content where targets die anyway
steel shadow
whats the best enchant for weapons as of now?
I see icy says depths but thats not out yet
brittle crow
best enchant for weapons rn is wait
calm quartz
o, when did the ST talent build change
modest condor
like half a day ago or something
modest condor
yes
modest condor
yeah but dan is busy with preparing for rwf so i wouldnt expect him to be changing the guide constantly
if anything im surprised archi was so quick with updating the build on wowhead
dense elbow
Archi usually kinda quick 
calm quartz
im still in awe at how demo has like 4 different guides by 4 different writers with noticably different builds
modest condor
i find it crazy that fury just skips half the capstone talents
no onslaught no odyns
like what
dense elbow
You do, I don't
dense elbow
You don't wanna know
summer crater
Is anyone else consistently getting extremely low rates of thunder blast out of cooldowns?
It doesn't feel close to 35% of bloodthirst
calm quartz
did something change recently for the talent shift
sudden tusk
no onslaught no odyns
why use more button when less button good
calm quartz
or just sims apl or something
hardy cargo
What’s the new build
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dense elbow
When OF is worse than UF, you know OF should get buffed 
hardy cargo
there was no specification whether u wanted string or a ss of the talents
couldve just said you arent in game or wanted a ss
instead of coming back like that
dense elbow
To be fair, attitude is allowed when you don't bring OS or OF - cause both are just that bad
covert blaze
I take it wowhead is updated before IB
icy 🅱️eins
dense elbow
They prob should just give tenderise the 20% chance to reck again
At least make it worth
unborn rover
what secondary enchants do you put on your weapons? Algari mana oil or Oil of deep toxins?
quiet rivet
Noice, like playing without Onslaugh
storm rune
We drop a capstone for a passive, love to see it
dense elbow
I look at that pic, and my brain keeps telling me it gotta be a joke. It looks that bad
If 1% mastery beats out the competition, ya know it is dire
young swan
gilded pawn
This is good content
hardy cargo
tier lists are gospel duh
dense elbow
Well, the Nerf was meant to kill of, so makes sense
quiet swallow
Anybody read about the trinket oppressive Orator's Larynx?
dense elbow
Wonder if we going to see any attention given to this situation tho, if it is real
Cause I still dont believe it in my heart 
modest condor
calling storm of steel shit is giving it too much credit
young swan
calling storm of steel shit is giving it too much credit
real actually
im not gonna amend it
but ur spitting
sudden tusk
storm of shit?
modest condor
it's a warcrime
dense elbow
The one that reduces BS dam
hardy cargo
10 extra rage per tick tho!!
dense elbow
Trur and real, value city
With Slayer, ya actually get even more rage. Dang value machine
dense elbow
Wonder if it will become a tier (4) thing for us, just to show us it is good
Something like BS can now reset it's CD when you BT
Hm, then you would prob want unhinged
I will get back to making it good at a later date
hardy cargo
that question is better answered by the robot my friend 
steel shadow
Insane work
hasty goblet
can someone give me the tldr or is wowhead already updated with new meta
young swan
whats the best enchant now
most people are using radiant authority i think
idk for sure cause im not enchanting shit rn
steel shadow
Well at least you gave me an answer lmao. Thank you sir.
hardy cargo
authority of depths is simming best for me
in all forms of content, but still running sims
steel shadow
But its not available yet right?
young swan
depths isnt avail
hardy cargo
authority of storm is also simming real close to depths
its got combination of radiant + storm splattered across all of the different combinations near depths
haughty cloud
What guide is most recommended here? Wowhead, IV, Maxroll, something else?
sour tundra
can alts get multiple sparks of omen a week as a catchup?
frank dawn
yeah, same as DF if you're multiple behind they can drop from bosses and delves and stuff
got one from a delve on my alt about 30 mins ago
sour tundra
nice ty
winter shoal
What guide is most recommended here? Wowhead, IV, Maxroll, something else?
Wowhead or maxroll, wowhead has been updated more recently than any of the others but still has some updates that will be made soon as well
FWIW Archi writes both the wowhead and IV guides, he just generally updates wowhead first
young swan
https://tenor.com/view/you-baby-rage-you-are-baby-gif-18139929
drop stick
dapper goblet
sudden tusk
where did video go
warped bone
Video poofed
sudden tusk
i was vibing to the music
sudden tusk
Seisbargs fucking fat tho
i had to swap to a dif mount becuase it made some race sections impossible
pearl sequoia
yea i swap to bee for races lol
covert blaze
covert blaze
dw I watched it I dunno what banger that was
NewJeans - OMG
warped bone
He is a big lad indeed. Also the rare that drops starting item to get mount. Hitbox so massive Generals Pact Ability hits is SO many times
Did 32 mil last time vs him xD
warped bone
Oo yikes hitbox even larger than his skin.
storm rune
What's that flight speed monitor?
covert blaze
What's that flight speed monitor?
warped bone
kekw
covert blaze
https://wago.io/nFopWlIoQ Looks simmilar to this one
it is i just modified it
warped bone
Ye noticed you had bar ontop and charges on bottom
storm rune
❤️
warped bone
Think i prefer that actually
warped bone
it is i just modified it
Do you also get a very small spike when dragon riding WQ completes? Looked like it in vid. Was wondering if it was just me
sudden tusk
but yeah that mount is incompatible with the races
also sucks that its impossible to tell when you have the thrill of the skies buff rolling
covert blaze
also sucks that its impossible to tell when you have the thrill of the skies buf...
I use the weakaura for that
do you mean like in the mount
is it missing something
sudden tusk
yeah compared to other mounts
try flying around and only seeing visually that you have the buff or that you are even going fast
its like driving a brick
covert blaze
yeah i never noticed
latent hedge
Sussybarg is not fat
devout matrix
Strange question that maybe I'm overthinking: I have an Execute weakaura that sometimes triggers even though I can't use Execute. I have most of the conditions covered to avoid it popping when it's not possible to use it. If you elect to not take the Sudden Death talent, but play Slayer (and thus get free Sudden Deaths), can you use those procs even though it's not talented?
covert blaze
Strange question that maybe I'm overthinking: I have an Execute weakaura that s...
yeah you can use them
winter shoal
skill issue
covert blaze
uneven crown
What are folks thoughts on Powerful Enrage vs Frenzied Enrage?
olive wraith
One gives haste one gives dmg
tawny pivot
One gives haste one gives dmg
This guy warriors
woeful token
It's bad having 2 on use trinkets, right?
olive wraith
It’s not ideal
olive wraith
You can’t use 2 on use and the same time
woeful token
so preseason bis is sacbrood and oppressive orator?
sharp tusk
And also don't have you stand still and solve and Rubix cube
olive wraith
Bis can be misleading. Also it’s irrelevant in 4 days
woeful token
does raid bots take double on use into consideration?
spiral shell
both the tier set bonus for fury seem kinda bad or not woth, oretty lame imo
olive wraith
Probably. Run a sim and check how many times each is used
sudden tusk
does raid bots take double on use into consideration?
becuase we have such short cooldowns we basically never use double on use
becuase it would either put the trinket we want during CDs on CD when we would want them
or it wouldnt really do much for us and would have to be such a strong static damage active that we would sacrifice bonus damage in our CDs for it
compact knot
i simmed most of the trinkets and it was telling me mark of khadros and the last boss trinket was simming the best (double on use)
ofc its prob not accurate yet
winter shoal
Idk who cares about this but my brain is smooth and I was having trouble maintaining AJ without overusing exe because I would delay for too long and lose the SD proc. I did some testing with weakauras to trigger when AJ/SD had <=4s remaining and that produced much better results for me in testing
I was curious what the sim difference was from this "account for the fact that I'm not a robot irl" compensation, and it turns out the answer is basically 0
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/sgM2rnwQU5yoArXyMMnt3T
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/iKkyeboX532pEk6C1zapAV
Also I think sims overvalue gear-a-rang bc it shows as like 7% in sims but it never did more than 5% in my tests, I'm gonna go back to testing with skarmorak shard now
The weakaura change I made for completeness: just adding glow conditions with different colors based on the remaining durations of AJ and SD respectively - weakaura can be found here https://wago.io/nB-I95AsX but note that the execute spell id changes with your talents so it could break if you change those, and also it's made for my UI so it might be turbo bricked for yours, modify it yourself as needed
It's yielded like a 10k average dps increase over what I was doing before in tests, which isn't much but it's not nothing, and it gives me less to think about
covert blaze
yeah tracking SD is good
safe juniper
Can I confirm I saw a sim where it states 5+ targets mountain thane sims better than slayer
anyone else try that
young swan
yeah thane is better in sustained aoe
at the cost of doing 0 prio damage and dropping 15% in ST
safe juniper
OH so dungeon wise it may be better to go slayer still
young swan
almost certainly will be unless if survivability becomes a major issue
also worth noting that if u really like thane, theres nothing wrong with playing it
as long as you understand the pitfalls
safe juniper
what are the pitfalls ?
junior gale
young swan
what are the pitfalls ?
young swan
rampage 100% of the time, BT 30% of the time, Onslaught and OF when talented into their follow-on nodes
scenic halo
gotcha ty
gilded pawn
xan how come you didnt mention fresh meat
brittle crow
bad blue name
young swan
if u want to talent fresh meat u dont deserve my help anyways
thin cliff
haha
patent coyote
What race is suggested for fury? Especially in raid
brittle crow
if u have to ask then it doesnt matter as usual
spare steppe
What race is suggested for fury? Especially in raid
M+ I imagine will still be dwarf/night elf
young swan
What race is suggested for fury? Especially in raid
mechagnome is best
young swan
if u dont wanna look like an idiot either dont swap or get one of those disguise thingies
my brain said the same thing twice
junior gale
you can buy race swap glamours on the ah
brittle crow
"glamour" what is this ffxiv
junior gale
its what they called it
brittle crow
smh
molten wing
i just capped valor and i only loot wax when i see it
will either spend mine on ore bags or gold kek
brittle crow
the whole point of wax is that its not capped tho
sudden tusk
the reality is this wax will do literally nothing
and not matter at all
ill just have some wax
lone zinc
im having some wax rn
south kayak
Any waxers in chat
winter shoal
I leveled my rogue 72-80 purely from wax, and I've farmed probably another 1000 on my warrior
willow delta
do you need to stand in spear of bastion anymore?
sudden tusk
no
winter shoal
Nope just need to hit the enemy with it
exotic glacier
It’s nothing we’ve seen thousands!!!!!! That man was a psychopath.
woeful token
should we sim patchwerk in raid bots even for mythic+ ?
sudden tusk
you can use Dungeon slice its not that bad, but with Tyran always beinga factor good ST dps is still a strong consideration
eternal sundial
28 actually
brittle crow
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1280246351849984030/1281699008460619787...
literally havent seen a single wax spot since i sent this message
idk how ppl farm wax
DAYUM
balmy socket
hey guys, how do i utilize execute in aoe/ST? i feel like i dont press it often enough because i have Raging blow charges left
brittle crow
hey guys, how do i utilize execute in aoe/ST? i feel like i dont press it often ...
it takes prio over raging blow and bloodthirst in aoe
brittle crow
in st you only send if ashen juggernaut about to run out
coral zealot
Build those stacks
brittle crow
otherwise mash rb
pearl cradle
yo guys in need your opinion so 1 of my guild masters recruits can play fury and windwalker so we are trying to decide to bring 2fury or 2 ww which one you guys think will benefit best
cedar garden
idk how ppl farm wax
I created a wax farm today, got to 1k wax in about 10hrs. Here's what I think in theory is happening:
- the dirt pile spawn frequency is tied to the number of players in the zone, ie more players->more dirt piles
- there seems to be a "cooldown" of spawns after some seemingly random amount of time ~1hr or so, the spawns will kinda disappear for like 5 mins then come back
- this reset might be triggered by the nighttime "beledar" spawn event, this is unconfirmed
brittle crow
u dont need utility in raid
coral zealot
Youll need 1 for BS anywau
balmy socket
okay, ty a lot, and how do i use Bloodthirst in st? i heard something about only 90% critchance
brittle crow
okay, ty a lot, and how do i use Bloodthirst in st? i heard something about only...
when u have nothing else to press, press bt
simple as
coral zealot
u dont need utility in raid
Ports/incap if raid encounter/rop
balmy socket
when u have nothing else to press, press bt
and if i do run out of enrage bloodthirst prio or rampage? 😄
pearl cradle
do you guys think fury will be better dps wise againt ww? just need your opinion and weigh our options thank you
coral zealot
No1 knows
brittle crow
and if i do run out of enrage bloodthirst prio or rampage? 😄
u shouldnt run out of enrage, in theory
coral zealot
Wait till s1
brittle crow
but yes if ur not enraged and cant rampage, u press bt
coral zealot
Question
balmy socket
but yes if ur not enraged and cant rampage, u press bt
how do i use odyns fury if i dont have bladestorm? xD
coral zealot
Does any1 know why my plater enemy dissapears on some adds during fights if I go out of range
Sometimes boss bars dissappear makes it a nightmare to target
brittle crow
how do i use odyns fury if i dont have bladestorm? xD
press
cedar garden
Does any1 know why my plater enemy dissapears on some adds during fights if I go...
nameplates have range settings which can be configured in the plater config, though only up to some maximum (which I don't know off the top of my head)
coral zealot
Ooooo il have to have a look
balmy socket
tyty
random raptor
So Beledar's Bounty gives 469 mastery, but I'm getting 562 mastery on Earthen when eating Masterful Onyx.. Does that mean Earthen buff worked and it's probably higher than middle of the pack now?
nova smelt
do we scale off stam somehow?
why does tauren sim 500 dps more than dwarf with the same dps racial
lament hinge
crit damage
nova smelt
brother
young swan
variance
lament hinge
f
young swan
there isnt stam scaling
young swan
did u check if the sim is casting warstomp in combat
marble trench
Is it worth buying epics from rep people?
young swan
yeah
olive plank
Hey guys, I looked at the resources and I was wondering if there was any testing done with SMF and how far its behind
young swan
~5%
olive plank
Oh thats not too bad
olive plank
Cool beans, Thanks for the info ❤️
Im just a casual player and there's some deep seated urge in me to use 1 handers lmao
static needle
this any good?
sullen dove
brittle crow
nathria
sullen dove
o
brittle crow
i think i failed to get to the dance floor in time
heroic leap on cd and spotlight on the other side of the room
tragic
sullen dove
yea as i recall tho that should just be like some dot slowly killing you
but maybe it doesnt show on death logs
i imagine u didnt instantly die right
took a while
arctic atlas
how does fury compare to arms for raid damage these days? Close enough to just play what you like, or a clear difference?
sullen dove
i think arms is a teensy bit again in pure st
but there arent that many fights that are well... that
so fury overall prolly still more preferrable
since can do like 12billion aoe dmg for not much loss on st
young swan
i think arms is a teensy bit again in pure st
fury on top again
young swan
yeah
sullen dove
that shits wack
young swan
by a similarly teensy margin
sullen dove
how u not even gonna get onslaught in there
arctic atlas
yeah but is it a massive difference, or a sort of eh difference that's only going to matter to the top 1%?
sullen dove
prolly that
young swan
yeah but is it a massive difference, or a sort of eh difference that's only goin...
it doesnt matter
just play what u enjoy
sullen dove
if fury is ahead in st then it prolly means its a "semi decent" bit ahead in the whole raid accounting for multiple fights with aoe but yea
silk wharf
What will be far more impactful are the 2 specs damage profiles. And fury has a stranglehold on arms in that department.
brittle crow
@sullen dove this time i forgot to kill stavros 2nd and got stuck with the movement speed debuff
literally couldnt make it to my spot
just had a ticking dot that dealt no dmg
sullen dove
brittle crow
why did i instantly die lmao???
i think cosmic ray hit my pc
flipped my health to 0
sullen dove
krill issue ig
i cant say i recall council of blood just indiscriminately 1shotting you
was pretty sure if you are failing the dance it let you know with a nasty dot and you still were able to get to your spot
but uh... just equip leaper legendary i suppose
brittle crow
true.......
sullen dove
think that exists in SL
brittle crow
was pretty sure if you are failing the dance it let you know with a nasty dot an...
ya thats what happened this time
south kayak
what's a normal commission price for 590 weapons
dusk urchin
in prep for m+
how do u guys max ur overall damage? do u use burst on cooldown or save for bigger packs?
sullen dove
typically u just send on cooldown unless a packs about to die
or like you KNOW theres gonna be some insane pull really soon maybe you can save for that
but usually just sending as many cds as u can is best practice
eternal sundial
how do u guys max ur overall damage? do u use burst on cooldown or save for bigg...
cds on cd
also dont fiend for overall fiend for timing keys
brittle crow
got all except 3 pieces of nathria mythic set
and the 3 pieces i need are from first 3 bosses
time to run the first 3 for like 8 weeks and still got get it
rotund ginkgo
Any1 that has done splits before can tell me if it's better to be w ur main on the first run or the second run?
covert blaze
Any1 that has done splits before can tell me if it's better to be w ur main on t...
is your leadership not handling that
rotund ginkgo
They did
finite sundial
Sooo the sims say 700k what do yall pull on dummies unbuffed?
rotund ginkgo
They said "speak now or forever stay in silence" lmao
So I'm asking is it better to be on main first or alt first
Or does it just not rly matter
covert blaze
are you doing mirrors
brittle crow
i dont see y it would matter...
rotund ginkgo
Personally I'm mirroring
covert blaze
where the characters are possible mains
rotund ginkgo
Some aren't
covert blaze
then your main would be decided base on loot luck no
rotund ginkgo
I mean my main is currently higher ilvl so I guess I know which is my main (unless some dumb luck happens).
covert blaze
rotund ginkgo
I'm asking
Is it better gear wise to be on my alt first
Or main
I assume it doesn't matter
Cuz it's rng
young swan
yeah if ur mirroring ur just playing whichever gets better gear
clever belfry
its obviously more likely to get better gear in the split that has less zenith/plate
but that SHOULD be balanced by your officers
young swan
^
clever belfry
also L bozo mirroring
rotund ginkgo
Oh yes the 2% tier
clever belfry
yeah u should not be getting tier
rotund ginkgo
Were monk rogue Evo right?
clever belfry
yes
rotund ginkgo
I'm not getting tier regardless prob
finite sundial
mega chads, whats your dummy dps unbuffed
finite sundial
im about 150k off my sims but it has full list of buffs
so im thinking potions flasks and shit is like 50k dps
brittle crow
u can sim without buffs
clever belfry
dont even have to do it manually
finite sundial
holy dooly
750k dps with buffs
570k without
thats a fucking massive difference
im only 20k short now
mucho happier
dusk urchin
any quick tips on how this can imporve
the pullls in this dungeon were reasonable (not wall to walls)
eternal sundial
that tells us absolutely nothing
dusk urchin
er sry this is overall
eternal sundial
idk man details screenshots like that dont accomplish much
dusk urchin
so like in rookery dng
24 odyn fury cast (is that right?) 5 bladestorm cast
idk does that damage profile look ok?
as in should rampage be doing more or using more executes
im following the wowhead rotation guide really
dusk urchin
ya that seemed rly high
like do u use execute at 3 slayer stacks? over curshin blow even or ?
rotund ginkgo
Ait just checked
First run has 3 (other warr included) and 3 plate
My run has 4 zenith and 4 plate (myself included)
Chat is it over?
eternal sundial
1 run of dn
edgy widget
My run has 4 zenith and 4 plate (myself included)
na, you don't care about tier anyway
clever belfry
and u get 1 for free from cat
covert blaze
you probably won't get tier realistically
clever belfry
if your guild gives you tier first
rotund ginkgo
We have no rogues
rotund ginkgo
And I don't know how many devas we have
clever belfry
eternal sundial
it doesnt need to be first but i like having tier 
covert blaze
they need aid
I read this way different at first glance my god
rotund ginkgo
We do have yes
rotund ginkgo
Iunno do I look like I shoot fire beans
sullen dove
yea if ur a brainlet that likes playing aug
rotund ginkgo
Beams
sullen dove
(7 if true)
rotund ginkgo
clever belfry
aug is more interesting to play than deva
deva is legit
the most boring dogshit theyve ever come up with
rotund ginkgo
They're both shit lizards
clever belfry
its so flooded with ressource now u just press 1
covert blaze
its so flooded with ressource now u just press 1
if you play aug you press 7
clever belfry
7 for prescience hacker macro real
burnt kelp
Is deva gameplay worse than aug
rotund ginkgo
There's so many maplestory players that just play the same ability on repeat for 287 levels
burnt kelp
I dont believe it
rotund ginkgo
I wouldn't be surprised if deva players enjoy it
covert blaze
deva is fun
sullen dove
he just means more boring
covert blaze
anda just likes spreadsheets a lil too much i think
rotund ginkgo
I played Blaster in maplestory
sullen dove
u press like 3 buttons as dev
oblique trail
and u get 1 for free from cat
Meow
sullen dove
but its infinitely more enjoyable than aug
clever belfry
u press like 3 buttons as dev
3 is
rotund ginkgo
Hi bane
sullen dove
clever belfry
u have so many EBs
rotund ginkgo
Gz on new color :3
rotund ginkgo
You have so many eepys
sullen dove
unless flameshaper got buffed to be better now
rotund ginkgo
Wym very boring I'd enjoy knowing I'm doing my rotation at 100% potential
Chatting
clever belfry
aug has more intricacy in their regular rot
even before u include buffing
its very silly
rotund ginkgo
Someone leash Anda
sullen dove
pyre merchant
burnt kelp
I tried aug and it was the most dog shit thing I ever played in this game
And I played wod arms
sullen dove
critcakege
clever belfry
nah aug is not as bad as wod arms (pre hfc)
burnt kelp
No way any spec manages to be even more Boring
rotund ginkgo
Any1 got tier spreadsheet?
rotund ginkgo
Aug
eternal sundial
andus based
gilded pawn
if you remove private auras
burnt kelp
Can we remove dracthyrs instead
gilded pawn
you can have weakaura play more of the game
and you can play less of the game
which means you can spend time on good games like teamfight tactics
gaunt moat
Remove drachtyr on other classes 🙏
clever belfry
for every fucking private aura lol
rotund ginkgo
Remove drachtyr on other classes 🙏
It isn't even live yet
burnt kelp
No more scalies
rotund ginkgo
Anyone has the tier spreadsheets?
clever belfry
silence garrosh cosplayer
gaunt moat
It isn't even live yet
It'll be!
clever belfry
maghar orc
garrosh shoulders
loincloth
oh yeah its time to game
rotund ginkgo
Rather have more scales than scale exclusives
gaunt moat
And when it'll happen we'll be angry to see shadow priest runs faster than us!
rotund ginkgo
maghar orc
garrosh shoulders
loincloth
oh yeah its time to game
Can I be the loincloth
rotund ginkgo
And when it'll happen we'll be angry to see shadow priest runs faster than us!
? We go lizard too fym
gaunt moat
? We go lizard too fym
Even worse!
sullen dove
Anyone has the tier spreadsheets?
gaunt moat
sullen dove
posted in my guild
rotund ginkgo
Drink ur sodie
sullen dove
idk if recent or whatever
rotund ginkgo
Ty babe
sullen dove
7
burnt kelp
silence garrosh cosplayer
My tmogs are the best in this discord
burnt kelp
That's it
sullen dove
burnt kelp
I challenge you
clever belfry
funny how they dont even include aug sims
despite sael adding a semi easy way to sim them....
gaunt moat
idk if recent or whatever
It's from Izen before raidbots accurate apl was made so it's not quite accurate!
eternal sundial
izen
sullen dove
rotund ginkgo
Why u so damn excited
eternal sundial
throw away
clever path
Is the trinket Shadowed Essence any good for Fury? It a rare dropped trinket
clever path
Reason I ask, its simming higher than everything I have outside of Sacbrood
gilded pawn
despite sael adding a semi easy way to sim them....
whats the way
burnt kelp
Here are my woyers, try doing better than that
rotund ginkgo
I feel like we could be friends if dracthyr didn't exist
Good be less excited
burnt kelp
sullen dove
:nowaying: its another orc warrior
clever belfry
there is fixed men now, u dont actually have to add full extra actors
rotund ginkgo
sullen dove
and a black face on a belt on a set with no other black anywhere there
clever belfry
i dont hate that humans tmog
rotund ginkgo
Another orc warrior
clever belfry
the issues start when she starts moving
sullen dove
?
clever belfry
cause those cape kilt things
sullen dove
ander disliking women moving...
clever belfry
are just glued to legs
quick schooner
Guys which plater profile do you recommand for mythic plus ?
clever belfry
and look horrid when moving unfortunately...
burnt kelp
sullen dove
ye tru
clever belfry
priest tier still glued to legs
gaunt moat
Every new expansion i see the same old heads ofc i'm excited swordish Ronin anda psyduck Box ect... it's pure nostalgia 
clever belfry
oldge
quick schooner
any plater profile recommandation please i see mutiple choice but i rather hear from you guys
clever belfry
i think jundies plater is a good baseline
quick schooner
i see . thanks aloot
gaunt moat
every expansion when ive only been playin since sl
And you've been in my heart since then
rotund ginkgo
Phil is now psyduck
clever belfry
i was too lazy to rework my own plater this xpac
imported jundies
still worked on it for 1h
gg
burnt kelp
Anyway my point is made that I have objectively better taste than dracthyr players
Thank you for coming to my ted talk
eternal sundial
looks funny
clever belfry
u know u can just use your humans tmog
on female drac?
cause ure just perma in visage
gaunt moat
Dracthyr propaganda is gonna tear this discord apart!
burnt kelp
Dracthyr haircuts are ugly
clever belfry
i think a good few of them are pretty, but fair enough
burnt kelp
Even if you hide the scales the model is strictly inferior imo
clever belfry
yeah its not a 🐐 true
eternal sundial
Draenei is the worst model in the game
male or
clever belfry
ok no one ever means male
gaunt moat
gnomes and goblins exist
Bro they look dope both of them
clever belfry
when they say draenei
clever belfry
like that is not real
burnt kelp
I knew a guy who played male draenei hunter
eternal sundial
xbows also dont exist
gaunt moat
The only way to play hunter is the big gun to become deaf after 1 week 🙏
polar narwhal
rotund ginkgo
Bro with them w the borderlands lilith
oblique trail
That's been there since
rotund ginkgo
Ou
oblique trail
rotund ginkgo
Anyways ❤️
rotund ginkgo
ulria spreadsheet anyone?
thorn steeple
Newb question here..
why does hekili reccomends Odyn's fury since i already have 4 stacks of WW? wouldn that overcap the stacks?
oblique trail
Gm Schmidi king, everyday is good when I see Schmidi king
oblique trail
Newb question here..
why does hekili reccomends Odyn's fury since i already hav...
It would but overcapping those WW stacks is so irrelevant, compared to just getting OF on CD
gleaming siren
OF big damgur
gilded pawn
It would but overcapping those WW stacks is so irrelevant, compared to just gett...
its all thanks to me that hekili has gained acceptance amongst actual good players here
gilded pawn
Newb question here..
why does hekili reccomends Odyn's fury since i already hav...
thats a nice hekili setup how did you get it to look like that
thorn steeple
thats a nice hekili setup how did you get it to look like that
I have the AJ Warrior weak aura with hekili, i just removed some stuff i didnt need
gilded pawn
my hekili doesnt look nearly as nice
thorn steeple
i assume you talk about the border on the icons..thats Masque addon
fiery tide
when do we pop trinket and racial with avatar or reck?
or do you just macro it all together?
echo junco
Just clump it all together in a single button
fiery tide
does it matter anymore if avatar or reck is before the other?
echo junco
You want to reck before avatar
oblique trail
If using Berserkers torment, no. If using Titan's torment, you want Reck before Avatar
echo junco
Doesn't using reck first also give you 10 extra rage from avatar as well?
oblique trail
It does
But that 10 extra rage when you're using all your other CDs will not matter
clever path
what is the go to ST talent build, do we use onslaught?
gusty compass
Is it worth to craft the wrist or cloak now? Or better to wait?
echo junco
Wait
oblique trail
what is the go to ST talent build, do we use onslaught?
The go to ST talents are updated on Wowhead, and you don't use Onslaught no
brittle crow
can anyone on a52 make aqirite fisherfiends
ig im asking about an east coast server at 6am
clever path
ufff noway, ill check it out but wont i get screwed with nothing to press without onslaught 😦
oblique trail
You already can maintain a cycle of near 100% uptime on Enrage without Onslaught
clever path
You already can maintain a cycle of near 100% uptime on Enrage without Onslaught
❤️ thanks
compact siren
oblique trail
Pending tuning/best might slightly shift
And you reasonably don't need it either immediately during HC week
slate light
Is this the updated wowhead ST guide? No onslaught talented, but it says onslaught is regularly used
oblique trail
The talents are updated, the rest hasn't been yet
slate light
alright makes sense, cheers
proud vessel
what do you guys drop if you want to take intimidating shout aswell for m+?
sour tundra
I can't sleep. Should I just get up and hit things with my warrior? 
oblique trail
what do you guys drop if you want to take intimidating shout aswell for m+?
If you desperately want it, you can remove a point in Overwhelming Rage > Bounding > Second Wind
forest berry
Newb question here..
why does hekili reccomends Odyn's fury since i already hav...
nice hekili UI love it
@thorn steeple is there a way u can send me your UI ??
ornate gust
Are those number accurate for us? It seems the tier set doesn't add that value to us
hushed saffron
Hey guys, I have a question: has anyone tested the Earthen, how much better is this race than the others?
gloomy lynx
"TWW tier bonuses are worth ~2.5% for Slayer and Thane. It is inherently weak due to depending on Raging Blow resetting itself, which just doesn't happen all that often." in the faq
oblique trail
Hey guys, I have a question: has anyone tested the Earthen, how much better is t...
It has been tested, it's middle of the pack towards the lower end