fury

[tidal kindle]

You made me this way....

[bitter palm]

10% colossus aura buff in 4 weeks

for arms

[warm crag]

[tidal kindle]

https://tenor.com/wiqJ.gif

Only way to fix arms

https://tenor.com/NSXR.gif

[bitter palm]

crazy how we got

2 yard range increase on wb

instead of a rework

mini rework

remove MP

[spare steppe]

Tbf it’s 11.0.5 not 12.0

[bitter palm]

13.2.5

.7

[spare steppe]

Arms rework is 12.0

[summer quail]

someone make a senator armstrong quote except arms

like this but with arms

i'm too stupid to do it myself

[fiery thorn]

remove parry ty

[balmy shore]

😭

[junior gale]

Arms rework at 12.0 is pure cope

Any reasonable person knows it's not coming till 13.3

[smoky vale]

that was fast holy

[jolly mist]

two runs

i love this farm

[balmy shore]

makin money moves

[spare steppe]

…

Color me intrigued

[coarse nest]

Gold galore

Holy

[jolly mist]

bro

the boxes

drop like crazy

[wheat estuary]

from what?

[spare steppe]

He won’t say it’ll ruin the farm

[coarse nest]

“Two runs” means instanced content

Hmmm 🤔

[orchid dagger]

Too many mages in chat for him to spread the spice

[spare steppe]

Probably the lvl 1 sanctum

[coarse nest]

Hallowfall delve probably

Tinderbox zone

[modest condor]

yes

and it's boring af

[balmy shore]

silm are u not a delve head

delves are banger

log in delves

[modest condor]

i will be once they unlock higher tiers

[dapper goblet]

[modest condor]

just speedrunning the same delve over and over isnt fun

[balmy shore]

not a true delve head...

[modest condor]

true

[coarse nest]

Tier +20 delve when!?

[summer quail]

🔥

[thorny shoal]

are these the fabled mole people that the poddyc are talking about?

[wind torrent]

I bought 156 at 1800 a piece two weeks ago and flipped it at 7900

[coarse nest]

11.2 +30 delve gang

[wind torrent]

Ez gold

[coarse nest]

[eager thorn]

hm are they selling at now

[jolly mist]

5-6k?

[eager thorn]

not bad

[coarse nest]

Sold my stack last night for 7k ea

[wind torrent]

I think 8k last time I checked two day ago

[exotic glacier]

where

[coarse nest]

Well “stack” I had 5 of them

[coarse nest]

Ptr

[exotic glacier]

hmm gif me bb

[restive peak]

On WoWhead

[jolly mist]

on kazzak they go

for

6.5k rn

[exotic glacier]

that hunter animation on the char select screen is a little scuffed ey

[willow hazel]

first time seeing another discord guild tag in the wild

[modest condor]

arent they regionwide?

i just sold a bunch for 6.7k each

[exotic glacier]

well shit. dragons DO look cool if they're bigger and beefier (thanks Avatar)

[orchid dagger]

Yeah everything is regionwide now

[orchid dagger]

5% size if Prot

[exotic glacier]

fuggg I dont wanna pay for race change 😦

and because warriors dont cast, we could def be 100% in visage form if we wanted... so our transmog would still actually matter.

[elder smelt]

even if you cast you still be on visage form for the other classes,the only ones who turn dragon on cast are evokers

[spare steppe]

Which sucks for evokers

[summer quail]

that's okay, just means less evokers and we like less evokers

[exotic glacier]

literally the dragon part of the dragon casters is the worst part. the animator of that rig must feel so sad.

[elder smelt]

minus the fly skill and soar,most of the casts of evokers you dont even see

it just get hands together and cast

[sharp tusk]

I'm kinda hyped to play only Visage form warrior

All the cc..

[exotic glacier]

ya... the racials are a BIT over much... with all that CC/movement stuff

no diminishing returns on pushbacks, are there?

[sharp tusk]

I'm earthen right now and I hate how my mogs look

My favorite mog looks like ass I can't wait to swap lol

[balmy shore]

ya it's still in beta

[willow hazel]

we are just better

[exotic glacier]

post it in transmog for the posterity

[exotic glacier]

we're all better comrade

[willow hazel]

[left perch]

@balmy shore does your guild secretly stand for Pumpkin Spice Devas and is it accepting applications

[balmy shore]

it's a friend server full of designers

psd is the extension on photoshop files

LOL

like .psd

[left perch]

lmao well

I probably can’t apply then

[exotic glacier]

better not to use .pdf... might get the wrong crowd

[left perch]

but good to know

[eager thorn]

average evoker player

[exotic glacier]

yikes. /wellplayed

[sharp tusk]

@exotic glacier not on now so I don't have a picture lol, I have the two I swapped it to but they're full set so it dosent excite me as much

[exotic glacier]

we all fell for hallowfall for a little bit, I forgive you my son

[orchid dagger]

I mean Hallowfall is just the generic plate version of T2 Pally

Everyone uses it

[exotic glacier]

becasue it's GORGEOUS. It's ok to like beautiful things.

[orchid dagger]

Ah yes, Mr. Hallowfall Warrior #46292759

[exotic glacier]

feels like thats why paladins are leading the "classes at lvl 80" thing we keep seeing

[carmine hawk]

Not my fault this set is just fire

[burnt kelp]

don't lump me with the rest of the pleb

i used the hallowfall but I didn't fall for the full set

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/827522497414824017/1277826087895699506/image.png?ex=66dc6b88&is=66db1a08&hm=0022af226322c5393ae5b257918f3232b83398807f9f9330af4f5dd124a5f460&

[willow hazel]

I may not be a smart man, but I know what good armor design is

hallowfall plate is pretty

[carmine hawk]

Warrior showing off skin?

Straight to jail

[exotic glacier]

goated. looks amazing.

[burnt kelp]

how do you get scars

[fathom valley]

My tmog is the female princess tmog on my swarthy bearded dwarf male

[burnt kelp]

if you don't show skin

[fathom valley]

With butterfly wings

[tidal kindle]

https://tenor.com/U5LQ.gif

[burnt kelp]

I'm gonna do it, batman

[carmine hawk]

Bro

[coarse nest]

He opened his mouth to far

[exotic glacier]

also. that's like 1 piece of the set.

[willow hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/lollipop-spongebob-squarepants-happy-glad-gif-13223159

tryna eat one of these

[burnt kelp]

you can use the belt/shoulders/ if you want more hallow

[rough rock]

Looking for new warrior friends

[coarse nest]

👋

[rough rock]

How u feel today my guys

[hot mural]

so whats the best type of enrage currently? like is there a st amount of haste i should have before going powerful enrage?

[coarse nest]

Eating sammitch

Living Zug life

[rough rock]

ZugZug

[sharp tusk]

It looks like powerful is good for M+ and Frenzied will be better for raids

From what I've seen and simmed

[hot mural]

yeah im looking at wowhead too. but it feels kinda bad with powerful enrage when i have very little haste in general since its a new expansion

it was really good and fun to use in pre patch when i had good gear and high haste

[coarse nest]

Yes totally how everyone feels

[hot mural]

guess im not alone in feeling slow with powerful enrage then

[eager thorn]

furious and powerful are p much the same for st

[hot mural]

first image is powerful enrage, and second is frenzied enrage

so for me personally it seems frenzied is the better choice, atleast until i get higher haste

[meager void]

its settled guys. We did it.

[coarse nest]

You should sim the differences

Much more accurate

[oblique trail]

Not to completely make your testing seem pointless, but you could just sim it over thousands of iterations

[meager void]

loooool

[oblique trail]

Instead of 2 singular tests of both talents

[coarse nest]

Inb4 WhAtS a SiM

[oblique trail]

Long and short of it is though, that they're pretty close, where as Powerful gets better for AoE/Burst

Generally speaking

[hot mural]

i did do that as well, but simming is kinda meh, atleast for me personally cause i know for a fact im not gonna play as perfect as a sim will

so why no compare it doing what i alwasy do

[oblique trail]

So your dummy testing will show better results than a sim would?

[meager void]

its a lost cause guys. just let it go.

[fervent yoke]

what prof for fury, Alch and ?

[coarse nest]

Sim shows you a perfect world example of what your toon is capable of

[restive peak]

I mean if you can't get closer to the APL, your dummy tests will also be flawed by improper play

[hot mural]

why wouldnt it? when im the one playing the char?

[restive peak]

What if 1 time it clicks well and 1 time you played poorly, but you're just assuming you played the same

[buoyant salmon]

too small of a sample size

[coarse nest]

I think I’m like 10k-15k off of my target dummy sim on average

Pretty bad

[exotic glacier]

he could just be more comfortable at the haste level that he's got from frenzied.

[restive peak]

Also the entire reasoning for powerful on M+ is because in M+, we're very heavily focused on AOE burst, and 15% more dam on your burst = mega burst

15% faster GCDss on burst doesn't = mega burst

[coarse nest]

Trying to force learn new muscle memory before raid

[oblique trail]

I can also, as a competent player, go test both talents out and get a different result and then say the opposite of what you did

[meager void]

inb4 but...

[exotic glacier]

I thought we wanted to get AWAY from cookie cutter builds

[chrome relic]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-guy-relaxing-popcorm-popcorn-gif-26404903

[exotic glacier]

If the mans thinks he does better with Frenzied, let him play frenzied.

[oblique trail]

And optimising for poor play is simply just very silly

[restive peak]

I mean cookie cutter builds will always exist

[buoyant salmon]

thats fine but the reasoning is flawed

[restive peak]

Math is math is math

[exotic glacier]

optimizing for HIS playstyle (even if flawed) should work

[granite crypt]

always a joy to watch.

[restive peak]

Or he could put the energy into learning to play better

[eager thorn]

hi guys i do more dmg with smf than 2h sims why are we not running that

[restive peak]

And it will translate to ALL builds

[exotic glacier]

ew learning in a video game?

[hot mural]

i mean sure. its the whole reason i said for me and personally with my haste and current stats. not as a fact for everyone

[meager void]

its a small sample size to your personal case

[exotic glacier]

all he's said is it's better for HIM. even if its wrong, he feels like its better.

[meager void]

its an statistical concept you need to grasp

[eager thorn]

based on one test though

[restive peak]

It's not better for him, it's better for him on 2 dummy tests on 1 day

It's also an ST test, where powerful is NOT simming higher

[eager thorn]

thats like saying u survived a jump off a bridge so its not deadly

[exotic glacier]

is it an imperial sample size or a metric sample size?

[restive peak]

So it's legit just super flawed

The logic is wrong

[eager thorn]

not this again

[restive peak]

If you don't want to discuss your logic being wrong, don't post it in discussion places

[exotic glacier]

I actually agree that the sample size is incorrect and the test is flawed. just trying to be nice to our boy DRCC.

[meager void]

I, for one, like it very much that Lincc is yella nowdays btw

[hardy cargo]

Sims will basically delete variables from your comparison. This is the reason ppl are saying sim. During that one test you did you could’ve crit 100% on CB casts with frenzied so it looks better. If you want to play suboptimally just acknowledge it’s not optimal and play what you enjoy brotha

[exotic glacier]

He's ALWAYS BEEN Yella!

[meager void]

tbh, the main factor to your decision (at this point) on Frenzied vs Powerful is the old-man wrist pain consideration.

on later seasons, old-man will probably have to go Frenzied.

or be left behind without rizz

[restive peak]

Thanks big dog

And powerful def feels worse to play, but it's also just noteably stronger for AOE...it doesn't matter how you play, I have severe ADHD and prefer haste 110%, but I still run powerful where it makes sense

[exotic glacier]

my old man hands are thankful for Powerful.

[hardy cargo]

Idek the variance between the two, is it still how it was in (beta?) where frenzied on ST, powerful on AOE?

[restive peak]

Yep

[random raptor]

So we're getting rid of onslaught for ST?

[restive peak]

And yep

[hardy cargo]

Wait dropping OS in favor of OF? I assume?

And DB?

[restive peak]

Nope

Drop both lol

[hardy cargo]

LOL

[winter shoal]

Is this hot off the presses? Haven't seen that yet

[jovial coral]

I aint readin allat

[hardy cargo]

2/2VC+BB?

[oblique trail]

drink one thousand trillion million beers

[restive peak]

No BB, 1 deft 2 swift 2 crit thinking

and 2 VC

BB is dogwater w/o roar/OF

[next mica]

https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/warrior/fury/slayer/DAAANVUVFURFFRIlVQCUQEFVVUBB -In this talent scenario what do i swap for WW talents? Ashen juggernaut and wrath? help pls : )

[hardy cargo]

Yea forgor we not running roar in ST

Have been very disconnected from the game waiting room for mplus

[restive peak]

You drop Ons+tender+AJ for HnS and WW talents

[coarse nest]

Onslaught isn’t used on ST anymore sheesh I’m out of the loop

[restive peak]

Also swap fresh meat for imp BT

[oblique trail]

Very recent yes

[next mica]

i said in this talent scenario

[restive peak]

I mean

I would never suggest anyone play that scenario ever because it's weak and messy

So whatever you want

[next mica]

i wouldent eighter that wasent the question though

[restive peak]

The answer is "whatever you want"

Because it's gonna suck regardless man

Lol

[buoyant salmon]

invigorating fury and ashen juggernaut

[restive peak]

I dont think he can drop IF and not take another in that row

Lol

[exotic glacier]

how many PURE single target fights even are there? 2?

[restive peak]

2 Jack, yeah

[winter shoal]

Ah I see the WH guide is updated, I'll give that a gander and do some testing, ty king

[restive peak]

Rashanan is moreso ST as well, since the adds kinda fall over

You likely won't want your whole raid AOE on that fight

[oblique trail]

Rashanan will prob be a pick OF fight

And let it do all the AoE for us

[restive peak]

We'll run OF yeah

We're plannin double warr double enh

To handle the adds

Everyone else ST

[winter shoal]

Linc or Banezi do either of you have builds for those raid fights that are like mostly ST with a bit of add dam?

[exotic glacier]

AJ being the best pick for ST... even without Massacre or SD makes me feel sad.

[restive peak]

I have some cooking ideas

[dense elbow]

Well, as you got OS, you want the haste. But you can prob move some damage from RB in the profile as you play AM. Just at a glanse, I would drop Ashen and probably Wrath and Fury - using hasted OS to fill the lost gap. Then I would prob move Inv. fury to hack'n'slash to make sure to make rotation smoother.

Would have to play it to check the feel.

[hardy cargo]

I dunno how many will be in on prog, but we finally have more than one warrior again since sanctum I’m so excited to prog with another warrior

[exotic glacier]

I too am excited to get half as many chances at the 2 hander drop.

[oblique trail]

Could prob do this, move VC around a bit (haven't simmed to see diffy in pure ST)

It's essentially the pure ST setup already, but moved a Deft over

Tho haven't checked to see what no Deft is like

Probably is ass during BS

[winter shoal]

Yeah deft into OF, could drop one in VC for it instead but that sounds like beans for rashanan

[next mica]

@dense elbowye thats what i was thinking 2 just wanted more opinions

[winter shoal]

Still spear with that ya?

[oblique trail]

Yeah I just took the pure ST talents

[hardy cargo]

Could maybe drop the UBF into deft

[winter shoal]

Yeah UF also kinda beans

[hardy cargo]

Tho I dunno how much value that talent holds currently

[oblique trail]

And assuming Rashanan has an equal fight length to any other boss, then VC idd will have big value

[restive peak]

Drop 1 VC for BB, run roar

But that's basically my plan yeah

[winter shoal]

I can run some sims after work and report back

[restive peak]

With those 2 changes

[hot mural]

i mean i agree, thats kinda why i never bother to do sims either anymore. it presents a perfect scenario and is pretty much never ever possible, atleast for me to reach

[dense elbow]

Man, seeing us skip sudden death as slayer - just screams design error

[restive peak]

Actually TBH I might drop UF and keep both VC, cuz 35-0 is long on that fight

[winter shoal]

Dropping UF or DE for OF Linc?

[restive peak]

Legit the build Banezi just posted, but drop UF for BB

Then run roar instead of spear

[restive peak]

But again, only 4 of us on our team are doing the AOE so bleeds will tick a ton for me

[oblique trail]

Yeah don't think that'll happen for us xd

[restive peak]

If you're in a guild where everyones gonna go at em...I would skip roar/BB

[winter shoal]

Probs want PE I guess instead of frenzied?

[oblique trail]

Yeah it's a PE angle

[restive peak]

Ye PE

[oblique trail]

Any AoE burst and you want PE

[winter shoal]

Word I'll do some testing and run some sims after work

[exotic glacier]

AoE is PE, ST IS FE

[dense elbow]

Would have to reach 45% haste before I play PE

Or it wont feel right

[oblique trail]

It will definitely feel like dogshit playing PE with S1 gear

But shrug

[hardy cargo]

Just takes a bit of practice to replicate sim numbers 🙂 especially not too hard on dummy. Still use the sim to compare the values of talents vs one another, and if the loss doesn’t bother you too much just play what you like 🙂

[oblique trail]

If it's noticeably better I'll play it

[hardy cargo]

Ppl don’t always play perfectly but that doesn’t necessarily mean robot is wrong

[fervent yoke]

what professions did you guys choose for fury?

[random raptor]

All of them

[next mica]

@fervent yokebooster

[random raptor]

It was my first time doing professions ever

[dense elbow]

Alch/Engi

[random raptor]

I've currently made

-.16m

[fervent yoke]

boost deez zug zug 4 lyfe

[winter shoal]

I went herb/alch and have farmed roughly 1m since the start of the expac bc there's fuck all else to do rn

A lot of that also came from wax

[hardy cargo]

I love warrior yapping during raid it’s so fun

[violet thorn]

Hey guys, is there a guide with recommendations for talents on each boss?

[fervent yoke]

I smoke a lot of wax

[fervent yoke]

thank you!

[oblique trail]

You can just follow whatever the top parsers use on Warcraftlogs (when the raid releases), but generally a full ST build and one with AoE is gonna baseline be used, which you can find on wowhead

[summer quail]

I miss having a 2nd warrior in raid. but atleast without it i can pad more

[oblique trail]

There will be slight deviations from the typical build, like discussed above, for certain fights

[violet thorn]

Id usually do that but we start relatively early on tuesday

[dense elbow]

If you dont have 2 warriors in the raid, the raid is kinda sad

ngl

need my warrbro

[oblique trail]

Then just follow the latter, using whatever's on wowhead

[hardy cargo]

Has anyone tried simming ONS as if it was another RA charge (above ramp in prio) assuming like no overcap of SS stacks

[oblique trail]

Rashanan would be a potential exception, where you could do as discussed above

[violet thorn]

Im more so curious which bosses are worth swapping to aoe build for

[oblique trail]

Where you'd essentially be full ST but swap a few things around

[oblique trail]

Any that's not the pure ST fights really

[winter shoal]

isn't that what the sim already does

[hardy cargo]

Well if you have RA and enrage you willingly overcap rage

I’d assume it doesn’t

[tulip swallow]

OF good and it looks like a lot of the fights have adds

[hardy cargo]

But I’m not sure

[hot mural]

sure. but during the whole damn bfa expansion i relied and simmed alot. trying to perfect my gear. from what i remember i never reached my sim numbers. so i much rather just do a few tries on each spec and see for myself what actually works better for me.

[hardy cargo]

Did you make sure to remove raid buffs/lust/consumables?

[buoyant salmon]

worst case scenario you go in st talents, pull is wiped, u go again with aoe talents

[oblique trail]

Atm it's already simming above Rampage in prio with RA

[buoyant salmon]

no need to stress what talents to play right now

[winter shoal]

I know a previous version of the APL took SS stacks into consideration but it looks like the current one doesn't, the only reference to SS is w.r.t. RB https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/3Yyh4yrRbx9kFw1RZFkxr7/simc

[hot mural]

yes lol

[hardy cargo]

Even capped rage? Damn ok I wouldn’t have expected that one

[violet thorn]

Also does anyone know where I can find trinket sims?

[past pivot]

Still tbd afaik

[oblique trail]

It sorta already does account for SS by checking for Tenderize

[winter shoal]

Ye I think I remember one that was like if(SS.stacks >= 1) or something

[oblique trail]

Unless you're referring to Rampage itself checking for SS

[winter shoal]

Idr it was a few weeks ago

Doesn't really matter though, press buttons when the APL says to

[dense elbow]

As amount of SS stacks dont matter before you are maxed, and that wont really happen - does it matter?

Only in PvP can you care about it, building it up with brutal finish to tap someone into the ground

[fading sky]

we rly takin the 6% chance of reck talent ?

[winter shoal]

idk man my brain is small and my dam is bad, I'll test and sim in a few hours

That was specifically for raid add fights though, not for general ST fights

[exotic glacier]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/pineapplar-palace-browser-game-now-available-practice-nerub-ar-palace-raid-346507

[willow delta]

is it recommended to adjust spell queue ms from default?

[dapper goblet]

yes

default is dogshit awful poop diaper

[willow delta]

is there a good rule of thumb to follow?

[winter shoal]

100 + your ping

[random raptor]

What's spell queue and why do I adjust it

[winter shoal]

You can also test with this weakaura to see if you're missing globals because your SQW is too low https://wago.io/8g88Gj3sn

[willow delta]

amazing, thanks

[winter shoal]

It's a way of compensating for lag basically where you can queue your next ability before your current one is "finished" - a bigger window means more wiggle room to perfectly queue your abilities so you don't have any gaps between globals, but it can also make it feel like your inputs are getting munched if it's too big

For high haste classes (like fury) that can feel really bad, hence lowering it from the default of 400ms

[random raptor]

Wow okay, learning something everyday lol I'll use that wa to do some testing

I don't think I've ever had a problem but I could be wrong

[winter shoal]

http://thedefiantguild.com/forums/discussion/15431.html

[random raptor]

Thanks mate

[delicate thicket]

https://maxroll.gg/wow/resources/spell-queue-window

[delicate thicket]

this sucks

[jovial wigeon]

i wish perish

[winter shoal]

I mean it's a rule of thumb and people should test for themselves for sure, but like do you want to elaborate on that?

[delicate thicket]

uh

it just sucks

why would I put my sqw at 120

[winter shoal]

[delicate thicket]

and press my button 8 times per second toward the tail end of my gcds

that is an excellent way to waste gcds

[delicate thicket]

how to get a bunch of dead time in between their casts

no do not test it for yourself

theres nothing to test

it sucks

[winter shoal]

#fury message

[narrow narwhal]

Egg

[winter shoal]

"to see if you're missing globals because your SQW is too low" ???

No disrespect but like did you read what I said before getting mad?

[delicate thicket]

the rule of thumb of 100 + ping sucks

I am not mad

that rule of thumb just sucks

[winter shoal]

It's a place to start and test

[delicate thicket]

what are you trying to achieve even

[winter shoal]

I play with 110+ms SQW and it's perfectly fine, I've tested and I don't miss globals

[delicate thicket]

you can overwrite your spellqueue at any point

before it sends

theres hardly any gain for vast majority of situations to lower you spellqueuewindow

but if you were to lower it, pick a more reasonable number

[winter shoal]

Nobody is forcing you to lower your SQW if you don't want to bud

[delicate thicket]

the rule of thumb is just awful

that is all

[winter shoal]

400ms feels like garbage to play imo

150 (what I play on) feels much better and doesn't lose me any globals

Therefore I play on 150

I arrived at that 150 number by starting with the 100 + ping rule of thumb, and then testing to see if I was missing globals (I was, so I bumped it up slightly)

[ember apex]

i also play at 150 and can confirm that it feels poggers

but i also experimented to get to that number

[winter shoal]

Weird, it's like the process I described provides both a starting point and a way to tailor it to the individual

[random raptor]

I'm on 14 ping, would 150 be good to test?

I'm so oblivious to how this works lol

[winter shoal]

Yeah 150 would also be fine

[delicate thicket]

why are you trying to adjust your spellqueuewindow? what are you trying to achieve @random raptor

[young swan]

more responsive button presses

[random raptor]

because everyone is saying 400 feels garbage to play and I've had that on default since I started wow a year ago

[delicate thicket]

does it feel garbage to you

it shouldn't if you have reasonable ping

[random raptor]

its 4 am for me, so I'm testing it

[delicate thicket]

you can overwrite the spells in your spellqueue

if you have a low ping you can overwrite them very close to the spell firing

it prevents you from having a bunch of dead time

[random raptor]

I'll be honest, I can't feel the difference

[delicate thicket]

but these people tried on a dummy and surely have no dead time as a result of spellqueuing when raiding for hours or being in a m+ for 30minutes straight

[winter shoal]

I play on like 30ms ping and playing on beta (where SQW was the default 400) was immediately noticeable and felt much better when I changed it back to 150

[winter shoal]

I have the videos I recorded to check with that weakaura if you want to verify whether I'm missing any globals

[delicate thicket]

yeah I think its just in ur head. if you lower your spellqueue you should just put it to a more reasonable level that makes more sense

you are in fact not pressing your buttons 8 times a second

towards the end of ur globals

consistently

just in case u were curious

[hasty goblet]

Hey when i use the catalyst next week, does the tier piece that pops out the same item level as the item i put into the catalyst? Or does it default to level 1 on the Veteran track?

[young swan]

same track + ilvl

[winter shoal]

green weakaura = button pressed inside SQW

[delicate thicket]

yeah great

[hasty goblet]

ok thank you. im trying to figure out what gear to upgrade with my valorstones/crests now that i have my weapons and trinkets maxed. i wasnt sure if i would be wasting them on eventually catalyst slots

[mystic hill]

feel like using catalyst week 1 kinda troll

atleast wait for first vault

[latent hedge]

it is indeed not a good idea to use off rip

[hasty goblet]

i never used it before. didnt play DF. first time learning about it lol

[young swan]

dont use catalyst week 1

[mystic hill]

u gonna raid/fullclear week1?

[hasty goblet]

i would like to. im 586 right now

i think i have 15 more crests for one more upgrade

[mystic hill]

do u have a guarantee to get atleast 1 other tierpiece week 1?

[hasty goblet]

im not sure?

sorry still kinda learning all the mechincs this xpac

[mystic hill]

then whats the point slamming cata week 1

run around with 1piece and then maybe get cucked by vault

[oblique trail]

The tier set really is not big enough to worry about instantly catalysing something week 1

[hasty goblet]

ah got it

youre saying wait until i can get 2 pieces of catalyst gear

for the bonus

[mystic hill]

use cata when u can guarante 2p

[hasty goblet]

got it

thank you

[buoyant salmon]

use cata when you guarentee 4p

[oblique trail]

You do get a guaranteed tier piece if you get Curve, which means killing last boss on Heroic

[hasty goblet]

ok that makes sense

[young swan]

4p worse than 2p so no

[oblique trail]

Which admittedly is not gonna be a lot of people week 1

(depending on tuning)

[mystic hill]

im good guy and passing tierpiece from raid in guild cuz fury tier is ASS

[young swan]

^

[oblique trail]

I will pass on it even if I don't want to

[buoyant salmon]

idk i think using for 2 is always bait

[oblique trail]

10 zenith users moment

[mystic hill]

(i will not use that goodwill to force my rat alts in mainraid sooner than later)

[young swan]

whats bait is taking any tier from your guild

[limber sleet]

has anyone experimented with like a cleave prio boss build, what are you guys planning in raid, just pure aoe for add fights and pure st for single fights?

[buoyant salmon]

half of zenith is equally beans to be fair

and healers dont have rights

so fuckem

[young swan]

real actually

id prefer just taking high ilvl mythic/heroic off pieces

get my 2 set from catalyst + 2k io

fill out the bad slots

[buoyant salmon]

just switch for whirlwind talents

theres your cleave prio boss build

[buoyant salmon]

ur not getting 2k io bud ur washed

u get aotc

[latent hedge]

real play is 1600 in pvp

[buoyant salmon]

would be easy

viable if pvp was a disgusting cretin gamemode

unlucky

[latent hedge]

i hate myself everytime but its by far the easiest of the three week 1

👍

[buoyant salmon]

i farm aotc week 1 we r not the same

ratio

[latent hedge]

i got fyrakk week 1 and my ELITE armor

[buoyant salmon]

LMAOO bro im so corny

alright work time cya

[latent hedge]

😡

[oblique trail]

at least you're aware

[sullen dove]

U sure you don’t get two weeks of io for doing a +10 cuz it’s both fort and tyrannical at that point

or is that too hard for the game to handle

[solemn mauve]

what is good st dps at 588 ilvl?

[narrow narwhal]

3

[sullen dove]

Yea at least like 15 probably

[tribal flint]

73

[solemn mauve]

clap slowly yall are so helpful

[eager thorn]

Id imagine its just separate weeks still

[sullen dove]

but yea I mean idk a ton of varying factors to st dps like time of fight or what trinkets u have

[eager thorn]

Would be nice though to +10 and just be done

[meager gyro]

anyone tested crushing force yet?

[sullen dove]

If you’re like semi close to a st sim or even dummy sim ur prolly fine

[oblique trail]

Sim a target dummy sim, go to a target dummy and hit it for 5 minutes with no buffs active, compare

If you're close to the target dummy sim after a few times of doing this, then you're doing fine

[clever belfry]

banezi

[oblique trail]

anda

[orchid vault]

anyone had doors to last boss bug out in city of threads?

[clever belfry]

he is banezing

[oblique trail]

you are andaing

[clever belfry]

real bälle hochauflösend?

[molten wing]

[oblique trail]

ægte bolle højdefinition

[clever belfry]

ægte

echte

[warm crag]

hojdefinition

[runic violet]

the M+ withdraw is strong...

[solemn mauve]

Thanks

[winter shoal]

Roughly what the sim tells you you should be doing probably

[solemn mauve]

Luckly I'm out preforming the sim

[winter shoal]

Gamer moment

But in a good way, not a racial slur way

[buoyant salmon]

shouldnt be happening

[oblique trail]

Decent chance it's just crit rng

If you're comparing yourself to a 5 min dummy sim, and you did a 5 min run yourself with no buffs

But the fact that you're close to it is a good enough sign

[winter shoal]

Yeah sim is an average so it's very possible to beat in n=1 cases

[buoyant salmon]

play on beta

[hardy shuttle]

He also replied less than 5 mins after what banezi said

[oblique trail]

Not keeping track of time but very true

[coarse nest]

It’s pretty reasonable to get close to the target dummy* sim beating it is just rng luck

[hardy shuttle]

So unless he did a short sim probably inflated

[coarse nest]

Sims send reck+ava pre pull

[solemn mauve]

no I know why, for some reason it has me in prot spec in the sim.

[winter shoal]

xdd

[kind bolt]

are 4 [Fractured Spark of Omens] available this week?

[eager thorn]

on reset we get 4th

can only have 3 atm

[clever path]

Question about our rotation without tier. Are we prio bloodbath or crushing blow no clue

[winter shoal]

You should also go ahead and combine the one you can, since you can farm the valorstones back immediately and they matter more starting next week than they do now

[winter shoal]

CB > BB in single target, in aoe there are different schools of though but it probably doesn't matter much

[restive peak]

Yeah it’s not better

[clever path]

Okay and are we building up % in our bloodbath like we were in season 2 or is my WA just fucky

[summer quail]

well we aren't actively doing so. but if you happen to have bloodbath hit 90% crit chance then you would prio it over CB

will rarely happen

[halcyon quail]

gearing my warrior. slayer is the way for fury ?

[summer quail]

yes

[halcyon quail]

anyone else thinks that name would've been better for DH ? And warr shouldve received Battlemaster instead?

sheesh

[tribal flint]

Man, fury warriors in bgs is some real hidden fun. geez

once u get gear

[dense elbow]

Indeed, warrior can go full pedal to the metal in s1

Sadly s2-s3 we will be useless due to armor scaling up, but oh well

it is what it is

If only Odyn's Fury did fire damage

[coarse nest]

Fdk SL with the frostwyrm stun lego went hard

Nuke two targets instantly

[bitter palm]

mortal combo crit

= dead

[coarse nest]

Fury right now feels like a similar nuke

Just without the stun

[buoyant salmon]

lol?

[slim canyon]

guys can someone explain to me why my WA stop going on CD when i use it?

[buoyant salmon]

what

[dense elbow]

S1 ppl usually at 20-30% armor red value, s2 is usually 40-50%, and s4 seasons it usually goes wild - 70-80% area

[buoyant salmon]

yes but that implies warrior will receive 0 pvp changes

[dense elbow]

You are cute, I like you

[buoyant salmon]

also ww was great in pvp in s3 df with all physical damage as well

[dense elbow]

And?

[solemn mauve]

after actually doing the sim and targe dummy, I am about 50k under the sim

[hybrid raven]

you actually never use slam right? 😄

[tribal flint]

dont mean to derail this into pvp topic, but just started doing bgs yesterday and holy shit, the gameplay is just fantastic

[dense elbow]

We use it on ST

It really is a ton of fun atm

[olive wraith]

Rip OF nerf

Last week was a blast

[dense elbow]

Enjoy it while it lasts, ilvl is creeping up - armor goes up, our dam goes down

Atm we pump

[tribal flint]

ive been using helathpots in bgs XD

[buoyant salmon]

armor scaling means jack shit

[tribal flint]

Unstoppable

[winter shoal]

Sounds like some more time on the dummy is in order

[buoyant salmon]

its not nerfed

[bitter palm]

tooltip change

[dense elbow]

It is

Wait, you talking PvP, or the softcap tooltip?

[bitter palm]

idk

[dense elbow]

PvP is nefed, PvE not

[bitter palm]

pvp lmao

[dense elbow]

PvP it is nerfed

[oblique trail]

People will get a placebo effect thinking OF is nerfed when the tooltip updates

[dense elbow]

It was always there tho

I am so confused

To be fair, that could just be my brain that has seared the target cap into my doomer mind

[oblique trail]

Yeah it's always been there on the tooltip

[dense elbow]

Who knows, maybe they did an oopsie as per usual, and double capped us

so now it is 4 cap, not 8

[teal gust]

Which two items should I prioritise in the new raid?
I guess the two hand from the first boss and the bis trinket?

[oblique trail]

I think you're just very confused, even more so than those who read it as a nerf

[dense elbow]

Nah, I can see a world where OF is softcapped to 4 targets

[warm crag]

me when i get mad at stuff i made up

[sharp tusk]

Which trinket I thought our BIS ones were out of M+

[spiral shell]

Is this OF change gonna be big?

[summer quail]

there is no change

[dense elbow]

In PvP? Not really. In PvE, what nerf

[serene vessel]

fellas

i gotta apologize

[dense elbow]

Oh no

[serene vessel]

I was unfamilar with bladestorm's game.

[summer quail]

you've joined the bladestorm club

[spiral shell]

How

[summer quail]

yess

[dense elbow]

Hah

Didnt take much convincing after years of complaints, huh

[teal gust]

I was thinking about treacherous transmitter

[junior gale]

imagine not liking fury bladestorm

[spiral shell]

Ah ok ty

[serene vessel]

i unironically hated it the entirety of dragonflight, but it feels much better when it's only like 2 seconds

[sharp tusk]

Fury blades bladestorm slaps

[dense elbow]

We didnt have BS in DF?

[serene vessel]

no but i refused to play arms in DF because of BS

[dense elbow]

Freaking arms players man

[serene vessel]

the only time i played arms in DF was when BS wasnt good

[ornate dome]

I am doing some sims and can't make sense of this. 1 minute sim, no buffs. Somehow the sim is casting bladestorm twice? Once at 2 sec and again at 54:00 seconds. This is the report.

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/sAT1wf1e74SaMmfraaR4sz

Is there some CDR in my build that I dont know about? Am I missing something? Bladestorm is 1.5 min cd

[dense elbow]

Ye, Fury and Arms BS aint the same, glad you finally agree and all is good

[slim coral]

MFW two our capstones are so bad we don't take either of them in ST

[oblique trail]

Capstone talent for Slayer

Reduces CD of Bladestorm

[dense elbow]

triggered

[slim coral]

crazy how bad Ons is

[ornate dome]

ah thanks, that makes sense.

[spare steppe]

how are you missing onslaught or odyn's in a build

[slim coral]

and dancing blades

[dense elbow]

Ons is alright, but ye - CB knocks it out of the park

[slim coral]

this is the wowhead build bud

[oblique trail]

It just sims as the best ST setup atm

[dense elbow]

They prob should just buff OF and OS by 33% to make them a pick

[spare steppe]

did it change?

[slim coral]

yes

[spare steppe]

i could've sworn onslaught was there

[oblique trail]

It was

[slim coral]

they're too scared to make warrior good

[spare steppe]

oh ok good to know

[dense elbow]

nodders

[oblique trail]

But it's a change made today

[spare steppe]

oh shit, any other changes?

[oblique trail]

Not really, mostly just the talent change

[dense elbow]

Changes come as they are discovered with siming and testing

[slim coral]

New trinket

[smoky vale]

is this for this patch or for nov patch

[slim coral]

new bis list

[serene vessel]

as in there was a balance change, or this is just the sim being updated?

[slim coral]

it's for this patch

no one would ever make a build for nov patch

[oblique trail]

Neither, just a better pure ST setup found

[slim coral]

that far out

[smoky vale]

also there is no way unbridled ferocity isnt sim bait

[oblique trail]

Tbf there are a lot of permutations you can make, and our capstones are pretty mediocre, so not surprising a setup was found this "late" where they weren't all picked

[summer quail]

buff UF to 10%

[smoky vale]

nah bring it back to 20

[winter shoal]

@oblique trail for the raid add fight stuff how do you think I should sim that? Just like a 2t patchwerk? And then for testing use the dummies in Dornogal that are next to each other during cds and ST otherwise?

[dense elbow]

Then make the ragemachine go totally wild again? No thanks

[serene vessel]

imo just buff odyns fury more, clearly fury needs to be stronger in AoE

[eternal sundial]

How to ruin reck as cd 101

[summer quail]

I understand why they nerfed it from 20, but 6 is just way too low

[eternal sundial]

Awful idea

It shouldve been removed

[slim coral]

I mean either way only like 2 fights are ST in the new raid anyways

[eternal sundial]

Horrible implications for the entire spec

[summer quail]

that's fine as well, would give us a new talent

[slim coral]

so you'll pretty much be aoe in all fights

[summer quail]

instead of being nerfed that hard, if they have a problem with it just replace it

[junior gale]

warrior doesnt get new talents

[sharp tusk]

Where are the new builds posted at? They're not on wowhead from what I saw

[junior gale]

we been over this

[ornate dome]

Looking at that though, 4 executes in the report, 20 seconds off teh cd. It still shouldnt be able to cast bladestorm at 54:00 seconds correct?

[winter shoal]

You saw wrong then bc the new ST build is on there

[jovial coral]

Propaganda

[oblique trail]

It's 5 sec per marked for death stack you consume

[ornate dome]

okay thanks again

[quick zodiac]

Oh new st dont use onslaught ?

[slim coral]

nope

[smoky vale]

i just want to feel something outside of my cds

[eternal sundial]

If you are perma in cds

You feel nothing when you press them

We had this in s2 sl

[quick zodiac]

Thank god I fking hate that shit

[eternal sundial]

It was not good to have 95% reck uptime

[spare steppe]

i'll have to update all my builds just to make sure

woo updates

[sharp tusk]

It still says last updated 8/22

[eternal sundial]

Cuz once you had only say 70% it felt dogshit awful

[quick zodiac]

Always hated that the m+ build is so different from st

This is nice

[oblique trail]

Drink a trillion beers

[coarse nest]

It basically just replaces slam on the hot bar

[slim coral]

either way fury needs help on its capstones in ST

they are so dogshit

[smoky vale]

i have 0 reference of fury outside of amirdrasil

[serene vessel]

chat, is bee trinket bis?

[quick zodiac]

Y ik but still haha

[eternal sundial]

Well imagine ppl having reck the entire fight

Doesnt make pressing reck fun anymore

[jovial coral]

Bro come vc

Me and this guy have very interesting plans

[serene vessel]

i mean tbh, pressing reck is just kind of boring as a cd as a whole though. It's literally just more rage gen

[eternal sundial]

Reck is a great CD

[quick zodiac]

”Just”

[coarse nest]

Reck and Ava combined for fury sounds sick

[quick zodiac]

[eternal sundial]

It's literally doubles the speed of ur rotation conceptually

[coarse nest]

Two buttons kinda annoying

[eternal sundial]

Having ava ontop

[serene vessel]

ok, so then let me double it by default and make the cooldown more fun

[eternal sundial]

Is just

[quick zodiac]

For ST we use reck right when it comes up right ?

[serene vessel]

u know whats a fun cd? combustion

[coarse nest]

All CDs on cd

[quick zodiac]

This^

[eternal sundial]

Skb into 70% uptime of combust on st

Not so fun anymore if it's the entire time

[jovial coral]

Who is

ava

[teal pine]

Pressing Reck feels good because it procs something else imo. I agree I’ve always thought it feels pretty limp by itself

[serene vessel]

tbh you play UI now and I love UI

[eternal sundial]

Idk man we wont agree here

[smoky vale]

Maybe I was just perma unlucky but I rarely had high reck uptime

[eternal sundial]

I thing if deserves death

[smoky vale]

this is on volo

[serene vessel]

you dont like UI?

[slim coral]

in this raid

[quick zodiac]

Ye solo reck is wack but pressing it getting Ava is sick

[slim coral]

you should have pretty high uptiime

[dapper goblet]

ban baze

[quick zodiac]

70%

[eternal sundial]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/2N6QncRf4AjvGDqy#fight=22&type=auras&source=322

[eternal sundial]

I dont like mage anymore

[slim coral]

you should easily have 70% uptime in the new raid tbh

[winter shoal]

44% in s3 wasn't too bad, it was mostly s2/s4 where reck was like 90%+

This was my best volc in s3 at 49% https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/fA9zH7RtmJp4YV6D#fight=47&type=auras&source=445

[smoky vale]

s2 seemed very stupid 🙂

[eternal sundial]

Gamba talents are awful

[smoky vale]

My highest so far is 55%

[eternal sundial]

Let me do more damage by gaming

Not by procclording

[smoky vale]

I agree

But the talent is dead and 20% at least let me do damage

[eternal sundial]

Reck does not do a lot with ra currently

Fwiw

[spare steppe]

i feel like I'm going to end up just doing duskthread embellishment instead of asecnsion and be just a lil sad

[smoky vale]

If we got an actual capstone I would play that

I'm just going to drop the point and put it somewhere else

[slim coral]

Sorry bud no fun allowed

[eternal sundial]

What youd want is a funnier capstone that makes you shoot fire or some shit during reck

[quick zodiac]

Any 1 got a good wa for avatar and reck ?

[eternal sundial]

Try make one from presets

[past pivot]

Luxthos

[slim coral]

Atroctiy is good

[serene vessel]

i like proclording when it revolves around fun stuff. Like hyperthermia and stuff

not unbridled fury

[eternal sundial]

UF is bad proc gamba

Mortal combo is good

Cuz if a proc has major impact on the actual fun i get to have it's not good

[covert blaze]

delete UF and DoI
the fact those are capstones and still in the game is outrageous

[eternal sundial]

Cuz s2 fury NO reck felt dogshit

[runic violet]

premade ones available

[eternal sundial]

So based

[smoky vale]

what is Doi

oh isee

[eternal sundial]

Depths

[smoky vale]

worthless

xd

[eternal sundial]

You used to play the conduit in sl at times rip

[smoky vale]

4 more sec of rec is so useful 🙂

[eternal sundial]

Back before Avatar is was...

[quick zodiac]

👍🏻

[dense elbow]

4 sec is a lot all things concidered - you can see 4 sec as a free Ramp-CB+1/2 value proc

[golden hare]

[smoky vale]

Yet it is never played

[dense elbow]

I would play it if it helped OF

[eternal sundial]

Cuz other capstones exist

Df tenderize was crazy

[smoky vale]

im just going to drop DF and play + 1% mastery

i cba gambling

[eternal sundial]

Doubt that's the play

[sharp tusk]

Same

[smoky vale]

wait what if

[fickle bluff]

DF?

[dense elbow]

Dragon Flight

[eternal sundial]

If

Uf*

[smoky vale]

we take the forbidden point

[fickle bluff]

youll be getting to play 1% mastery though dont you worry

[smoky vale]

oops misinput with df 🙂

[fickle bluff]

just not how you want

[eternal sundial]

Greg chat is trying to make me believe reck is a shit CD and it's not uf and avas fault it feels bad

[smoky vale]

smfers have a chance

[eternal sundial]

[fickle bluff]

reck is a shit cd but its not their fault

it was shit in bfa too

[eternal sundial]

Reck was the shit in sl

Till evil s3 set

[smoky vale]

what do you think we would take instead?

[eternal sundial]

Actually the WORST iteration i played man

Vile dogshit

[eternal sundial]

What greg tells you to

[smoky vale]

@fickle bluff are we smfing

[fickle bluff]

no go play frost

[dense elbow]

🗡️🗡️

SMF

DAGGER ROGUE TIME

[smoky vale]

yucky

https://tenor.com/bSEkU.gif

[dense elbow]

You guys asked for OF to be nerfed

you get what you deserve

[smoky vale]

?

i am biggest OF enjoyer

[dense elbow]

Doubt that

[smoky vale]

30 second OF so fun

[dense elbow]

huh?

[smoky vale]

s3 amir

[dense elbow]

smh, it isnt about quantity

it is quality

If you say you enjoy OF with CDR, then you are no true OF enjoyer

[slim coral]

Of is the coolest ability warrior has gotten

[dense elbow]

Bazed take

[smoky vale]

in the end i'll just copy swordish or zhai and call it a day

no point in fighting

[dense elbow]

Wonder if they gonna nerf UF more, to make OS the ST option - or if they will just leave OS/OF in the dirt :v

[bitter palm]

ye cause there was nothing else to play

xdddd

u replaced it with aaf

iirc

[eternal sundial]

Ye

[calm quartz]

pvp

🤢

[dense elbow]

If you try some Fury BGs, I doubt you will keep that attitude

[fierce flame]

what does tiitanic rage do actually? the 10% dmg from odyn's fury has no buff icon, not sure how that works

[smoky vale]

I forgot to ask earlier but what is the % dam increase with the new page

[fierce flame]

or is that only buffing odyn's fury?

[frank dawn]

It only increases OF damage, not all damage

[orchid crag]

So Dawnthread Lining doesn't stack, but Duskthread lining does stack?

[fierce flame]

ah gotcha

[oblique trail]

They stack

[dense elbow]

10% on 0 is 0 :(

[orchid crag]

My Ret pally had double Dawnthread and it didn't stack so I had to change it

Just making sure I'm not wasting gold on warrior

[oblique trail]

That's a bug then because they should

[fickle bluff]

drop below (the buff drops) and they will stack again

[hardy cargo]

has anyone simmed the % gain for a 5m fight with getting lay on hands on pull with that silly armor talent

[fickle bluff]

known bug that happens with all the linings (including blue)

[orchid crag]

Well fuck me

[clever belfry]

🪲

[fickle bluff]

🐛

[gilded pawn]

Is that not a PvP talent

[sterile remnant]

i was checking the fury slayer ST guide

the build does not include onslaught

[fickle bluff]

correct

[sterile remnant]

but in rotational explanation its mentioned to use it

hows that

[oblique trail]

It has not been updated yet to reflect the new talent setup then

[fickle bluff]

new talent build was found 7 hours ago and it hasnt been updated yet

[sterile remnant]

i see

[winter shoal]

Greg has the sim sheet been updated with new talents?

[sterile remnant]

thank the lord. never liked onslaught

[fickle bluff]

no

[hardy cargo]

in the patch notes it wasnt listed in the pvp section, perhaps it was updated and I havent seen though

[sterile remnant]

damn man

no OF

not fun :/

[hardy cargo]

top left of class tree

[hasty goblet]

maybe not the right place to ask, but im looking for a ranged alt to go along with my main fury. out of marksman hunter, fire mage, frost mage, or ele shaman, which spec you think will be best for mythic +?

[fickle bluff]

mage

either the wizards are the best class in the game, or the wizards are lying

[hasty goblet]

haha alright thank you

[orchid dagger]

Yeah that tracks

[serene vessel]

no not mage

[orchid dagger]

Mage is Blizzard's pet class

[serene vessel]

if ur only playing fire or frost

ur not the right spec rn

arcane is the only good mage spec atm

fire is literal dogwater

[hasty goblet]

i just have no arcane experience

[serene vessel]

Fire is about 60% behind arcane in AoE content

[orchid dagger]

They made Arcane far dumber

[meager gyro]

play ele shaman and enjoy your life @hasty goblet

[hasty goblet]

oh interesting maybe i'll check it out then

ele shaman has also been enticing. but didnt they just get nerfed?

[calm quartz]

FEllas

https://wago.io/FQ7mbW8h3

[spiral shell]

Bro 💀😭

[orchid dagger]

Why the fuck would you do this to yourself lol

[spiral shell]

Shaman and arcane both got “nerfed”

But they both pump

[bitter palm]

nerf = unplayable

2% aura nerf

= unplayable

[fickle bluff]

your wish has come true

[bitter palm]

simple as that

[bitter palm]

sd

uf losing to sd

classic

[winter shoal]

You (Greg) probably already know this, but I know I and others were asking - new build is about 1.2% ahead of the onslaught build
SD (827k): https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/qFSDa3zf9iiUL5PTiU2TPx
UF (822k): https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/sbaSaeetHYZvqv5EuQ9pzF
Old (817k): https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/nXYhUHspCUpPke5FhvVA7w

[fickle bluff]

:thevoices:

https://tenor.com/view/cataaaaaaaa-gif-23904304

i forgot that emotes here

[winter shoal]

Oh I'm cooked I missed the UF -> SD swap

[fickle bluff]

yeah it happened 5 minutes ago

[winter shoal]

Yuge

[smoky vale]

what about 35% execute

[fickle bluff]

ill find you the best simming build with massacre

ignore %

[young swan]

dps loss talent

good shit

warrior is perfect guys

[winter shoal]

Do you guys manually choose talent combos or do you have some kind of tool to automatically select and compare them?

[fickle bluff]

top gear has an auto generates builds thing now

when choosing which talents to pick theres a little tick box

[smoky vale]

ill let you cook i have to take a quiz for oop

🙂

[serene vessel]

man they unironically cooked with fury this patch nvm

i love fury

[exotic glacier]

Fury is fun.

[spiral shell]

U don’t use OF?

[young swan]

fury has t3 talents that are worse than t1 talents

[winter shoal]

This is ST build

[young swan]

this is what blizzard cooked

[bitter palm]

arms

cinema

[spiral shell]

I’m a noob what’s ST

[young swan]

single target

[spiral shell]

Ah LOL

Ok

[fierce flame]

when you sim with berzerk's tornment, does sim separate casting your avatar and reck?

[winter shoal]

Shouldn't, they add to each other's durations

[fierce flame]

o shit

I beens stupidly separate them on purpose

did't know it adds up

[winter shoal]

It used to be bugged where you had to do one first (I think ava) but they fixed it a while back

[fierce flame]

that's nice to know

ty

this build is very simular to my own theorycrafting xD

but I don't take piercing challenge..

that talent is kinda, useless tbh?

[wooden tide]

How far ahead is FE over PE in ST?

[young swan]

its better than 1% crit

[winter shoal]

@oblique trail idk if I'm cooked or you're cooked, but the aoe build we were discussing earlier doesn't have imp ww

[winter shoal]

I think they're basically even but FE feels better

[young swan]

they're very similar

[fierce flame]

1% crit and 5% cdmg on execute?

[young swan]

i dunno the exact difference

[fierce flame]

hmm okay

[young swan]

yeah execute is a shit button and 1% crit doesnt really matter

[oblique trail]

what build are you talking about

The one where we talked about Rashanan?

[fierce flame]

I see

[winter shoal]

Ye

[oblique trail]

We discussed that it's just gonna be pure ST but with OF

Because it'll be short burst AoE

[young swan]

yeah pretty much every fight with adds is like that, except ovinax

[oblique trail]

You could reasonably just pick improved WW if the adds live long enough past your OF + whatever else happens

[winter shoal]

#fury message

[oblique trail]

Yes

That's the Rashanan

[winter shoal]

What about broodtwister? Just M+ build?

Or silken court

[oblique trail]

Sure, it'll be sustained AoE

Silken will be ST

[young swan]

silken is basically st

you might take OF

cause beetles

[winter shoal]

And are you roaring or spearing