#fury

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tired brook
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i guess it doesnt matter since st

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but if there are any aoe bosses those stonks r crazy

sharp field
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well i got ara kara and larynx right now. whats best atm when the bee gets nerfed?

silent hornet
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ara kara and skarmorak shard i think untill m+

grave light
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how you get the bee trinket 😮

silent hornet
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3rd boss in cinderbrew meadery

grave light
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aah

native saffron
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Whats the cd?

silent hornet
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1.5min

oblique trail
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Must be a recent bug

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Had it week 1 and it did actual split damage so I binned it

iron portal
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If its bug then I wouldnt bother farming it cause blizz will just nuke it again

restive granite
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guys are the wowhead fr?

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are we running 6% reck chance on st?

fickle bluff
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frfr ong

restive granite
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no kapp on a stack?

sullen dove
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kill uf

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remove it now

fierce flame
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I'm using this one XD

fickle bluff
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chatting so what, we can run DoI instead?

fierce flame
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I have no idea why it's not procing when fight starts tho

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a lil bit frustrating

fickle bluff
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are you coming from classic?

fierce flame
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but overall it's about 20~26% uptime pretty decent

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yea

fierce flame
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hello!

sullen dove
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buff doi

fickle bluff
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yeah thats not how trinkets have worked for a very long time

fierce flame
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the interval time reset at the beginning?

fickle bluff
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no its just random

fierce flame
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o

fickle bluff
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youre not gonna get a proc at the start just because its off cd

fierce flame
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idk why would they do that

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makes it harder to sync with actives

fickle bluff
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chatting what youre looking for is an on use trinket

wild flicker
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hello, does somebody have a rough % number, how much gain the new fury tierset will be in ST? ( i know its low)

fickle bluff
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2%

restive narwhal
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Do we hold the Crest Quest in Dornogal, which ignores the weekly Cap ?

fierce flame
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I mean what do you expect lol that set bonus looks so bad

slim coral
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Looking at all these new visuals all the classes got meanwhile warrior

fickle bluff
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we got a new visual

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(icon)

tardy lark
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im not sure how you'd spice up warrior visuals though

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kinda hard to spice up weapon swings

slim coral
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Make them not brown

chrome plover
slim coral
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Ez

slim coral
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That shit crazy

lost saffron
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No it's too dark

tardy lark
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they took our condemn

slim coral
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They could add a cooler effect to slayer

oblique trail
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They can have it

slim coral
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Slayer needs cooler visuals tbh

tardy lark
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i like spinny spinny

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bonk spin

restive granite
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so are we taking UF just because we got 1 dead talent point?

slim coral
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We got more than 1

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Pretty much most of the bottom capstones are terrible

tardy lark
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we DF monks now

restive granite
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critical thinking looks like a better point than UF

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are the apls updated so i can move shit around without shooting myself in the foot?

chrome plover
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yes they are

bold sparrow
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what trinkets are the best for m+?

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that we can get right now in heroic

fickle bluff
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skarmorak/ara-kara

bold sparrow
restive narwhal
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Do we hold the Crest Quest in Dornogal, which ignores the weekly Cap ?

fickle bluff
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think for a minute why would you wait to hand it in

restive granite
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havent looked at the raid yet, but are there any strictly pure ST bosses where you would go that build?

oblique trail
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Off the top there are 2 pure ST fights

restive granite
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okok

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ty

bleak prawn
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hey friends finally got to 70 and am in the beginning stages of TWW campaign. Should I still just be using quest rewards/dungeon drops for gear until I am 80? Just wanna make sure I am not missing anything

tardy lark
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Keep going as you are

oblique trail
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Correct

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Just equip highest ilvl you have

tardy lark
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no one is doing lvl 70 raids right now

trim tinsel
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I have sparks, what's the best gear to craft? or should i save them.

bleak prawn
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cool cool I figured as much but just wanted to make sure

oblique trail
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At lvl 80, and when proper gear unlocks, you can worry more at that point

oblique trail
bleak prawn
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thank you 🙂

errant vessel
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Is there any way to get the old Execute animation back?

oblique trail
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Nop

errant vessel
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;-;

trim tinsel
clever belfry
clever belfry
clever belfry
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do not wake the beast

restive granite
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wait wront talent in there

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0.6% diff with my shit gear between a more comfy ST build and having to play spear

lusty crow
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Hey everyone, I am trying to see if it is worth me purchasing the 584 Nerubian Pheremone Secreter from the Severed threads quatermaster. Only problem is I cant sim the trinket because raidbots doesnt let you put the fragrances in it

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anyone know how it compares?

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I'm currently running [Ara-Kara Sacbrood] & [Overclocked Gear-a-Rang Launcher]

copper patio
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i bought it for giggles, you need 3 * apprentice or w/e the rank is above crony for it to be 'okay'

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its beyond annoying to pick up the orbs though, they are small and not easy to notice

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probably need a weakaura for this

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i'd skip bothering unless its an alt for a big ilvl boost and you're past crony ranks with the 3 spiders

slim pollen
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Honestly, with those options I wouldn't bother with the pheromones one except buying it to reduce upgrade cost for other triniets.
It's a bit ass to deal wity (3 almost invisiboe orbs to collect for buff)

lusty crow
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thanks I hoped someone else had bought it. Have you simmed it?

copper patio
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the speed we go through hc (and m0's) the orbs are just far too tedious

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no, just feelycraft and looking at their uptime * str given vs sacbrood

lusty crow
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what are you running with your sacbrood?

copper patio
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the one from left boss of stonedungeon 🥲 sorry bad with names

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the mastery on use one

polar narwhal
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Skarmorak Shard

restive granite
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so on ST do we look to pair spear with BS?

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or just send BS on cd

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or delay one or the other if theres like a 5 second between them

lusty crow
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I have that but my Overclocked Gear-a-Rang Launcher sims higher

gleaming siren
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(Third boss better be a banger cause Princess will be one)

restive granite
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they should sell dps in the store

slender badger
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One token per 10k dps boost

golden hare
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waow...

bleak prawn
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is it okay if I ask just a general game question and not something specific to fury? I am not getting many responses in the wownoob discord questions channel

storm rune
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my guy chat argued for like 45 minutes over the difference between orange and yellow last week

bleak prawn
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LOL okay so my question is now that I have hit 70 and started TWW campaign, my only random dungeon finder option is still DF. I do see that when I hit a higher ilvl I unlock heroic randoms is that my next goal? I dont see a TWW random dungeon option

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I am like brand new I got the game sunday so I am kinda overwhelemed lol

storm rune
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Often they'll bar access to dungeons behind level requirements, I honestly can't say for sure I didn't touch them until I was 80

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But you'll need to do quests to unlock stuff in the story anyways so it works out

bleak prawn
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okay so randoms are not the move for leveling past 70 like it was to get there

echo junco
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You should continue with the main campaign, later on you will unlock dungeons as you get to 80, once at level 80 you can start working on gear with Heroic dungeons

bleak prawn
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okay cool thank you guys for the responses!

chrome plover
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do dungeons on further characters once your main is 80, it is important to do the campaign on the first one and campaign + a few side quests will get you to 80

storm rune
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Yeah in order to unlock world quests

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You can't miss when it happens, giant banner pops up on your screen

bleak prawn
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awesome thanks!

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also now that I have made the new area my hearth what is the easiest way to get back to DF areas? like how do I get back to Orgimar easily?

storm rune
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inside the main building in dorn there's a teleport to your factions main city

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Under the staircase near the throne area

bleak prawn
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cool I don't know why I didnt check that. I have been in the city like 5 minutes lol

storm rune
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I played since early access and only decided to google that yesterday

bleak prawn
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okay that makes me feel better I appreciate that haha

chrome plover
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one of the first quests in the city was to go to that portal wasnt it?

bleak prawn
warm crag
fickle bluff
icy torrent
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Does the order of Avatar and Reck in a macro matter when we pop CDs?

fickle bluff
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no

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well yes actually

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reck first so you double avatars rage generated

radiant plank
warm crag
fickle bluff
bitter palm
icy torrent
languid mural
warm crag
clever belfry
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her vs him

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who would win

fickle bluff
chrome plover
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🎐

clever belfry
last mountain
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just a quick question for single target raid spec with slayer. how do i write a macro where i cast champions spear and bladestorm together? or should i even write it?

modest condor
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you cant

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they are both on the gcd

last mountain
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ah ok

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ty

near hedge
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Is it halal to use Rampage even if Bloodbath is still available but it's on CD due to recent usage?

thorn steeple
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Hi, is there any way for fury warrior to do self healing without poping a 2minute cd?

fickle bluff
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no its not halal

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use your RA charges

fickle bluff
near hedge
modest condor
orchid dagger
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If you have utterly shit haste it could be

modest condor
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no

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it's not

orchid dagger
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It is if you fuck up the rotation lmao

modest condor
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no it's literally not

fickle bluff
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chatting its possible if you dont cast cb

orchid dagger
modest condor
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how are you gonna get enough rage to rampage without pressing any other abilities?

orchid dagger
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Execute, Ons, CDs

modest condor
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then bloodbath is off cooldown

clever belfry
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bt is 3 globals cd buddy

orchid dagger
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Not necessarily

clever belfry
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yes

modest condor
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yes necesserily

clever belfry
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is there a lower bound for -haste where gcd stops getting slower

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i dont think so?

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(that would be the only possible case if that existed)

fickle bluff
near hedge
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using my current numbers, chatgpt says no, so I shouldnt worry about being haram:

In this scenario, we need to consider the global cooldown (GCD) and the cooldown of Bloodbath (3.9 seconds).

Here's the sequence of events in terms of GCD:

Bloodbath: Starts with a GCD of 1.31 seconds.
Rampage: After the first GCD, you cast Rampage. This action will trigger another 1.31-second GCD.
Crushing Blow: After Rampage, you cast Crushing Blow, which will also trigger a GCD of 1.31 seconds.
Bloodbath: You attempt to cast Bloodbath again.
Timeline Breakdown:
Bloodbath (0.0s) → GCD (1.31s).
Rampage (1.31s) → GCD (1.31s).
Crushing Blow (2.62s) → GCD (1.31s).
Attempt to cast Bloodbath (3.93s).
Bloodbath Cooldown:
Bloodbath has a 3.9-second cooldown, meaning it should be available again at 3.9 seconds.
After the third GCD finishes at 3.93 seconds, the cooldown on Bloodbath will have just finished, and you can cast it again.
Conclusion:
Since the 3.9-second cooldown on Bloodbath finishes just before the end of the third GCD (3.93 seconds), Bloodbath will be off cooldown and ready to use during the 4th cast.

So, yes, it is possible to cast Bloodbath again during the 4th cast in this sequence.
modest condor
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snoogens be like what have i done

oblique trail
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Goodness

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Chatgpt answers multiple times today

fickle bluff
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oh my goodness gracious

clever belfry
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man people are so brainrotted now

near hedge
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this sparked a very interesting debate, love it lmao

oblique trail
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Not much debate over it

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Just someone saying something which is false

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Because they don't know what they're talking about

modest condor
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i mean as anda said bt has a 3 gcd cooldown, the first gcd is from bt itself, the second is from rampage

near hedge
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even when using math it's clear that it isnt a debate, yet it became one lmao

modest condor
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at this point is the only possible scenario where bloodbath is still on cooldown

fickle bluff
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theres no debate

modest condor
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but it's impossible to get enough rage in the gcd to rampage again

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so you have to press another ability

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and then bb is off cooldown

oblique trail
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6 mobs died during your GCD so you get 60 rage from war machine

modest condor
thorn steeple
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I did a few heroics and i feel like i can't compete wiht a ret pala. I feel like i only get to do good damage when bladestorm is available ..

near hedge
modest condor
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ok that's true

clever belfry
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then u still have CB to press

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so who cares

clever belfry
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like there is other buttons u got

orchid dagger
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Stop losing to a bubble bitch

near hedge
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CB is calculated in this, anyway it's clear to me now, idk why I worried about it to begin with tbh, felt like it was an issue in my head

iron portal
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I dont think he cares

thorn steeple
fickle bluff
orchid dagger
restive granite
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caring about your damage in heroics is kinda pepega

edgy widget
thorn steeple
dense elbow
restive granite
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im lucky if i get to go in when 90% of the tanks are mount pulling lol

thorn steeple
dapper palm
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omggg wait mountain thane is insannnee

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straight up gapppinng everyone

dense elbow
dapper palm
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im in a heroic rn just blastin

wind sentinel
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fury is pretty fun. is it the go to spec for dungeon play for dps warrior?

dense elbow
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More or less

wind sentinel
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nice

dense elbow
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Always an arms hipster battling his way into the 0.1%

restive granite
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fury has the best damage profile imo, not many classes get to do 90% of their burst the first 3 seconds of a pull

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on a 90 second cooldown

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its so good for dungeons

dense elbow
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Excuse me, you meant to say 8?

dapper palm
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feels good to be just gapping everyone lol

vague fern
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Would thane be better in m+ though? I thought slayer was the go to

dapper palm
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typical pull

dense elbow
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Typical pull with CDs*

dapper palm
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1.5 min

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yeah

vague fern
dense elbow
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I do 1.5mill on my BDK gladge what is better than softcapped AoE, uncapped AoE

restive granite
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if i see an arcane mage prepping up his mark of the magi or wathever else they do i instantly pop everything

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feels good

dense elbow
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Enjoy it while it lasts ^^

dapper palm
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this was single target without any cooldowns

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gloopy guy boss in city of threads

dense elbow
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700k and no cds?

buoyant salmon
dapper palm
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no avatar or reck

buoyant salmon
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both specs are good

dapper palm
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seeing like 1m avg with cds up for boss kills

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been playing slayer since i hit 80 but idkkk these feels great

dense elbow
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it do feel great

dapper palm
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gotta love the zap sound when u thunder blast

wind sentinel
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all the more reason I made mine earthen lol

dense elbow
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Visuals are great too

dapper palm
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vyrkul playable race when

clever belfry
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i cant believe u BLASTED that HARD

dense elbow
restive granite
dapper palm
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lol whats ur beef? im just posting screenshots as i test out thane for the first time

dense elbow
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Who is beefing?

dapper palm
dense elbow
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Ah, Anda

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just ignore that lad

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he do it on purpose

dapper palm
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ill just wait for logs lol

wind sentinel
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thane will probably do really well in higher keys tbh

dense elbow
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If they get a ST buff, it good

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but ST matters in M+

deft orbit
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I've spent two weeks for the first time in retail playing several different classes trying to land on a main and I've narrowed it down to Fury and Devoker. It's crazy cuz I'll play fury and start missing the devo and then play the devo and start missing fury. Fury feels so good.

clever belfry
dense elbow
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Just know if you go warrior

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you never go back

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it is a forever class

clever belfry
fickle bluff
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real

dapper palm
restive peak
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Slayer is going to be the play barring big tuning

deft orbit
# dense elbow you never go back

I'm definitely feeling that. It feels so good. I played arcane mage and it was so boring. Fury actually feels responsive like you're actually playing a game

clever belfry
hardy cargo
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Yellow name link!! erga

dapper palm
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i have ret, spriest, dh and fury at 80 and ret feels really good too i gotta say

wind sentinel
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yeah the big issue withthane is that youd need thunderclap which iirc fury is avoiding atm

dapper palm
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this build seems to work for me, tho its a bit lacking for utility

wind sentinel
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this perma well fed is nice

dapper palm
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maybe swap out increased radius for shockwave

clever belfry
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has anyone thought of the armor bonus from earthen yet??

buoyant salmon
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drop movement speed

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take spell reflect

wind sentinel
buoyant salmon
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spell reflect is one of the best abilities in the game

iron portal
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I mean , saying capping people in heroic dungeons is bit silly

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ngl

buoyant salmon
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talent it

clever belfry
dapper palm
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i mean u play your game ill play mine im just tossing what i play with out there thanks tho

fickle bluff
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might just be bis race

wind sentinel
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oh it doesnt lower yoru armor anymore huh

wind sentinel
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still sticking to it i like my rock bois

restive peak
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Can you introduce you guys to our lord and saviour diaper gnome?

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xDDD

sullen dove
fickle bluff
deft orbit
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I'm a diaper gnome! 🤣

dapper palm
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i mean i didnt post it for advice lol

deft orbit
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Kind of hate it tbh

sullen dove
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onslaught and odyns at the same time is pretty warriorbrain

buoyant salmon
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i respect playing what you want but its spell reflect

clever belfry
deft orbit
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My ugly chicken feet really bother me

clever belfry
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fun fact

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before u reach good raid gear

restive peak
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I can't bring myself to do it man

clever belfry
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draenei is the 2nd best race

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(flat mainstat buff)

warped osprey
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hey, can someone please hand me the fury burst release spirit meme , lol

buoyant salmon
sullen dove
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Draenei are cool

clever belfry
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🐐

restive peak
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NE lifestyle

sullen dove
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(The females) (males look stupid)

fickle bluff
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oh has pandaren been fixed yipee

clever belfry
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if u play male draenei

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get a grip

sullen dove
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They also got yep cocka

left elk
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Everyone knows female worgen is best warrior

buoyant salmon
chrome plover
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goblin

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master

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race

left elk
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Goblin deez

restive peak
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Chawie don't start

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Noone wants to be a little green boi

chrome plover
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me

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i do

wind sentinel
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minmaxing your race choice is kinda dumb when user error > your race bonuses

clever path
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Gobblin'

wind sentinel
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play what you like

sullen dove
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Quite sure ravager is better than both

buoyant salmon
clever belfry
chrome plover
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ok i pull up

sullen dove
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or at least you use ravager and one of the other, more cds

clever belfry
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and good thing i have the solution for you

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gleeful glamours

orchid dagger
wind sentinel
restive peak
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Messy, they're trolling you because you're trying to overcook and missing things and, as much as people like to pretend, you're not gonna outcook the builds that math already solved

dapper palm
restive peak
fickle bluff
sullen dove
restive peak
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And you haven't seen it because you're in heroics where things are dying before they get a cast off, none of this is even remotely reality rn

sullen dove
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It’s not even about reflecting stuff

chrome plover
buoyant salmon
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spell reflect gives magic damage reduction when you use it, not just for reflecting spells

sullen dove
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It’s the like 25% magical dr on a 20 second cooldown

restive peak
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It's also a passive damage reduct

sullen dove
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But also u can reflect consecrate on paladins in priory

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Which is big fuck

left elk
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Wait

dapper palm
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looks like 5 seconds of 20% reduction from the tooltip, gotcha thanks

sullen dove
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But I don’t think priory is in m+

clever belfry
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oh i linked wrong sims previously

left elk
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wut

buoyant salmon
clever belfry
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earthen is even worse on my warr

restive peak
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Priory can be deleted and we'll all be happy

buoyant salmon
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all these dungeons are total dogshit

restive peak
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Ye earthen is pretty dog, NE masterrace remains

buoyant salmon
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literally not one good tww or m+ dungeon

clever belfry
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16h ago

buoyant salmon
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tnw is a fine key thats it

restive peak
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I'd be happy with them giving us back mechagon and taza to replace them

pearl sequoia
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cant wait for city of threads m+ keks

sullen dove
clever belfry
buoyant salmon
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god mechagon was so good

fickle bluff
restive peak
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RIGHT

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GIB BACK MECHA

buoyant salmon
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tazavesh too

restive peak
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@mossy fox will back us

buoyant salmon
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my tip is creamy now thanks linc

restive peak
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He loves mecha

clever belfry
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but im on weekly build

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:cluie

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my raidbots reset

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gg

buoyant salmon
sullen dove
restive peak
dense elbow
sullen dove
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I think most often they do nothing, cast some ability with sacred in the name, then consec usually soon after that

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so I just send reflect during the sacred cast works out like maybe half the time

dense elbow
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Aight, will just have to get it into my blood after a few m+'s

sullen dove
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Priory not in m+ again I don’t think

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Unless it is and I bugging

clever belfry
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it isnt

dense elbow
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No?

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Sadge

sullen dove
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season 2

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prolly

clever belfry
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hate lightforged draenei at the bottom..

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LFD has one crazy hairstyle

sullen dove
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I like how lightforged racial is literally “do a giant blast of damage” but it’s still ass

mossy fox
buoyant salmon
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season could be so good with not f tier dungeons

mossy fox
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workshop was cool too

sullen dove
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Ah yes the classic bots do the dungeon for u dungeon

clever belfry
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this hairstyle

sullen dove
clever belfry
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goes way too hard

fickle bluff
clever belfry
fickle bluff
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you are blissfully unaware

mossy fox
sullen dove
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many attack speed

clever belfry
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the thing is

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panda sims high enough above vulpera

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that it does something

fickle bluff
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ok

clever belfry
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dont need no_race

buoyant salmon
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you still play the videogame

fickle bluff
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but did you know vulpera is actually -dps

buoyant salmon
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you just do more damage

fickle bluff
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against no race

clever belfry
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ya

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maybe fix implementation challenge

modest condor
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member crityard

mossy fox
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i member crityard

fickle bluff
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ping archi and ask him to implement them how i suggested

modest condor
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the discord server was even called crityard for a while

buoyant salmon
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gavel + bots + final rune

restive peak
buoyant salmon
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i didn’t even have gavel bc i was protge

clever belfry
buoyant salmon
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but like

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hoooooly

modest condor
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also while yes, the bots carried junkyard, even without bots it would have been by far the easiest dungeon let's be honest

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surviving the trogg boss on a +37 just shouldnt be possible

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that shit should have started 1shotting like 4 keylevels lower

fickle bluff
buoyant salmon
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but yeah

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still criminally undertuned key

coral zealot
#

483 IL now bosh bosh

modest condor
#

huga huga

iron portal
#

unga bunga

sullen dove
#

holy we ready for amirdrassil with that one wicked

fickle bluff
buoyant salmon
#

s4 sl is the best season game has seen

#

no cap

#

no stack

dense elbow
#

BDK?

iron portal
#

SL

buoyant salmon
#

here we go

clever belfry
iron portal
clever belfry
#

absolutey not

clever belfry
#

7

#

7

#

7

#

7

#

7

fickle bluff
clever belfry
#

no fated impossible

solid veldt
#

i wonder why arms was untouched when fury got a tiny ass buff

buoyant salmon
#

wasnt untouched

#

warbreaker radius is a buff

#

technically

clever belfry
#

11.0.5 changes

#

wow

chrome plover
#

yuge buff

clever belfry
#

important!

buoyant salmon
#

super relevant

iron portal
#

sassy ones arent you

clever belfry
#

balls

#

gg

iron portal
#

sassy balls

frigid cipher
#

they fixed earthen now right?

clear orbit
#

Heyo guys, i want to craft 590 ring, do i need lense on it or no? I dont see any1 with lense on wowarmory

fickle bluff
#

where are you getting that from

dapper palm
#

anyone else seen really poor performance coming from the ara-kara sacbrood trinket that everyones raving about?

fickle bluff
#

no one ever said craft with lens

dapper palm
#

ive only ever seen 3 stacks in my dungeons

fickle bluff
#

3 stacks is still a lot of strength

#

if youre basing it off of the actual damage its doing then you dont know what the trinket does

clear orbit
dapper palm
#

who said anything about damage

fickle bluff
#

elemental focusing lens is an embellishment

dapper palm
#

i just havent seen the stacks going above 3

fickle bluff
#

and?

#

thats a shit load of strength

dapper palm
#

and our bis trinket gives 2900 str?

fickle bluff
#

so where are you getting "poor performance" from

dapper palm
#

im saying getting 3 stacks is super inconsistent

buoyant salmon
dapper palm
#

and you wont have 3 stacks on a 30 second heroic boss

#

talkin bout

#

details has the buff uptime at 73% for my speedrun heroic i just did

fickle bluff
#

do you genuinely think people are gearing for heroics

dapper palm
#

thats for egg sack buff

#

huh? no ofc not, but if were trying to figure out whats best, and this trinket isnt proccing for shit, im trying to understand why its good

fickle bluff
#

because it does proc

#

try hitting dummies instead of doing hc dungeons

dapper palm
#

ive tried on my spriest and its the same deal lol

#

but im at the dummies now ill test

#

with full cd opener with drums how fast i get 3 stacks

#

on 3 cleave

warm crag
#

im not aware of the trinket being implemented into simc incorrectly, the trinket should do about as well as it sims

iron portal
warm crag
#

you're probably just seeing the effects of sim style =/= fight style

dapper palm
#

yeah no thats fair so it seems like its very rng based then

iron portal
clever belfry
#

pheromone one isn't implemented correctly

#

sac is

warm crag
#

i dont think its rng at all

clever belfry
dapper palm
iron portal
#

Hell nah

warm crag
#

well a bit, sure, you're looking at tiny sample sizes, but you're also never fighting 5 minute patch werk right now

dapper palm
#

what do you mean lol, its a proc , thats rng, it seems to be a very LOW proc, more rng

versed cipher
dapper palm
#

where as something thats an on use, has consisttency

#

yeahhh its amazing

#

i love that trinket

warm crag
#

it probably has an rppm that it wont divert from

dapper palm
#

macro it into your avatar cd

versed cipher
dapper palm
#

the timing on the cd makes it so so good

fickle bluff
#

instead of thinking about 30s of combat

#

you proc lots of strength for a MINUTE

#

and it stacks

warm crag
#

if you wanna optimize hc dungeons or whatever you can grind rn you probably want double on use raw damage trinkets

dapper palm
#

yeah i hear ya im just seeing from multiple classes and as fury and prot that i cant get this to stay stacked during heroics and was curious if thats like normal i guess

#

yeah exactly spongie im rocking this

fickle bluff
#

because heroics are dogshit speedrun content

dapper palm
#

upgraded pvp trinket haste + str

#

the proc

warm crag
#

i mean you're also slightly cooked if you genuinely care abt gearing rn

dapper palm
#

and then i have the mastery trinket he just linked

#

huh? what else is there to do rn but minmax for season start lol

warm crag
#

only thing truely worth doing is farming honour and keys

dapper palm
#

whatcha been doing

warm crag
sick jungle
#

pre-raid bis sry

dapper palm
#

fair

warm crag
#

you'll replace all your current gear the instant m+ releases anyways

dapper palm
#

i mean you dont just get a full set of gear immediately

#

but yeah in a few weeks itll all be gone

#

or faster if u grindin

willow hazel
#

also important to keep in mind that "gearing" is the game for many people

dapper palm
#

yep for me its been really fun to get all my characters to 588

warm crag
#

still a better use of your time to get gear that'll last like the conquest shite and coffer keys

buoyant salmon
willow hazel
#

so replacing my questing loot with dungeon loot is where I derive my joy

buoyant salmon
#

itll get better with more gear but it’s not the best right now

dapper palm
#

just to be able to go into a heroic and do 1m dps on a boss and 2m on cleave

#

like its hella fun

#

these 2 weeks have been pretty enjoyable idk

willow hazel
#

issa video game

dapper palm
#

im parsing ilvl

#

xD

warm crag
#

my way of playing the game is the only true way

chrome plover
#

I'm levelling characters and hanging out

dapper palm
#

is parsing a thing in retail

chrome plover
#

yes

dapper palm
#

or do ppl not rly gaf

solid veldt
#

i mean sort of

fickle bluff
#

way more of a thing than it is in classic

willow hazel
dapper palm
#

io score / progression more so right?

chrome plover
#

i think people take retail parses more seriously than classic

solid veldt
#

its a thing, but you wont get top 10 without cheesing something, so I think people just care about "purple" vs "orange vs "gray"

chrome plover
#

in raid at least, m+ parses are a meme

willow hazel
warm crag
#

fr though im not saying you should play the game exactly like me and skip the same stuff that im skipping but it is true for 99% of players that you will burn out if you spam preseason grinds for an extremely temporary advantage

dapper palm
#

im coming from cata / wrath where it was all about chasing pink parses but when it comes to retail theres a ton more raid difficulties and i dont know how that plays into it

fallen quarry
warm crag
#

the percentages do be chosen awfully

#

add a few zeroes

chrome plover
sick jungle
#

i just like seeing big numbers

#

how about youguys

buoyant salmon
chrome plover
#

and by 'real' i mean it's fun to see number change colour okayge

dapper palm
#

yeah but like ill never set foot in a mythic raid cuz im not in a guild and dont plan to join one

warm crag
dapper palm
#

still gonna chase parses in my pugs

fickle bluff
warm crag
#

hc parses are real if you're not in a mythic guild dw about it

chrome plover
#

yeah exactly

dapper palm
#

ty

buoyant salmon
#

just makes splits go easier

#

kinda fake grind

smoky vale
warm crag
#

might be hard to parse pink if you're not in a guild though

#

depends on fight style

dapper palm
#

are normal and heroic parses lumped together? or seperate

chrome plover
#

separate

buoyant salmon
#

fly collect orbs craft all your gear character is done

dapper palm
#

yeah fair

chrome plover
#

all difficulties are separated

dapper palm
#

im a bit of a gamer tho

warm crag
#

sure you are

chrome plover
dapper palm
#

had 99+ avg's in every phase of wrath and cata so far

fickle bluff
#

chatting please tell us more

dapper palm
#

lol

chrome plover
#

we got a real gamer over here

fickle bluff
#

youll be hard pressed to find anyone who cares about classic parses here

dapper palm
#

dont get me started on my sod parses

chrome plover
#

i got to level 40 in classic when it first came out

#

and didnt play sod

dapper palm
#

lol its fun because every class has 2 buttons

#

so parses are less skill and more kill time and uptime

iron portal
#

Thats the nature of parses, yes

warm crag
#

i mean you still need skill

dapper palm
#

yeah lol what?

fickle bluff
#

like a year ago a guy applied to my guilds second team and thought that by linking ulduar parses hed get in keks

dapper palm
#

lets not go too far here im a firm believer in the parse

iron portal
#

People that say that generally cant read parse beyond dps meter

chrome plover
dapper palm
#

what that mean

frigid cipher
#

how is earthen now compared to the other races, they fixed the food buff right?

fickle bluff
#

earthen is perfectly mid

frigid cipher
#

nice

modest condor
#

2 people of equal skill, the one that kills the boss in 1:50 will do better than the one that kills it in 2:20

fickle bluff
#

chatting what if i had 1 minute cds

modest condor
#

then you wouldnt be playing a fury warrior

restive peak
#

Also if you get 2 mechanics and the other gets 1, you'll lose etc

warm crag
#

what if the boss spawns 2 billion adds every millisecond that dont hurt anyone but are still parsed at 1:51 until 2:20?

modest condor
restive peak
#

Parses are a meme, 95+ = you played close to perfect, killtime and mechanic dependent stuff

iron portal
restive peak
#

Like I was ranked like 6th on nelth or something and it's legit because our guild sucked and an extra add set spawned

#

I'd love to pretend I'm GOAT'd or something, but it was just kill time

modest condor
#

same thing with stormwall blockade, we killed it at around 6:15 which is right after my 2mins and 1.5mins lined up at 6 minutes so i got a huge boost at the end of the fight

pearl sequoia
# iron portal

so cringe seeing these on X and you just know everyones associating with the far right side

restive peak
#

Yeah, it feels good but it's not a skill thing sometimes

fickle bluff
#

chatting rank 1 sennarth guy reporting in simply be lucky and do good damage

pearl sequoia
#

yea im like 150 IQ

restive peak
#

If you're parsing 75s you got work to do...95+, you're very solid

iron portal
#

Easy

dapper palm
#

facts

pearl sequoia
#

no you must read your daily rage bait

smoky vale
#

Okay but what if your larodar got griefed because you had to spent 12 seconds of avatar doing nothing because of positioning

iron portal
#

No i dont

#

Never had twitter account , prob never will. Dont want to read it either

smoky vale
#

a bit too late for that now

#

Every larodar pull was me waiting for adds popped all my cds oneshot adds then stood by lava waiting to play the game again

dense elbow
iron portal
#

75 is laready pretty solid

summer quail
fickle bluff
#

stop playing OF when its not good

dense elbow
#

Never

restive granite
#

wiping your guild when you got bad rng

#

cant let those gray parses get uploaded

summer quail
pearl sequoia
#

i'd only care about your best parse but thats just me, content on farm who cares sometimes

restive granite
#

i was memeing, but i had a rogue guildie who did that a couple of times until the RL noticed and gkicked him on the spot

dense elbow
#

Good guy RL

pearl sequoia
#

lol wtf

restive granite
#

it was during sylvanas, you know how assassination rogues had to burst the last 3-4% in a couple of seconds to get out of P1 without a new set of spears iirc

restive peak
sick jungle
#

when is patch 11.0.5 slated for?

restive granite
#

when he messed his opener he always fell* on the platforms

restive peak
#

Whether it's rotation or uptime

restive peak
dense elbow
#

I am a good person, Linc confirmed

summer quail
swift garden
#

In terms of racial, best race between dwarf, night elf and void elf?

restive granite
#

dwarf cause they look cool

warm crag
#

for what purpose

fathom axle
#

Throw earthen in there

#

Did the stat updates make it best dps?

warm crag
#

are you optimizing for m+? raid? pvp?

fathom axle
#

yes

restive granite
#

dwarf was made for plate armor, best looking race in the game

fathom axle
#

Raid though really

swift garden
warm crag
#

then you probably want nelf for meld tech

#

or dwarf for bleed tech

#

you gotta decide yourself which you find more important

#

99% of the time it doesnt matter and you should pick what you think is coolest

swift garden
#

Yeah appreciate not for dmg, more for racial utility

dense elbow
#

Nelf got frontflip

sick jungle
#

they look funny

trail bane
#

lol why are boots enchants so shit this tier

#

250 speed or 895 stam, they are both worthless

pearl sequoia
#

speed increasing dps in sim

swift garden
#

Whats the new race racial like?

heavy ruin
#

Speed is worthless?

heavy ruin
trail bane
#

250 is the amount i have on an ilvl 366 chest

heavy ruin
#

Armor is okay, food buff is buggy and spell is shit so never use it

trail bane
#

Speed isnt worthless, the amount of speed is

untold yacht
#

What I’ll is weapon from HC raid 1st boss?

#

I’ll

#

Fuck

#

Iilvl

warm crag
#

just look it up or

heavy ruin
#

Not that hard to find

pearl sequoia
#

yall got wow on ur phone

#

games on phone!!!

fickle bluff
#

yeah you dont?

heavy ruin
#

I'm playing on a Nokia 3310

untold yacht
#

Ty

pearl sequoia
#

shiet

exotic glacier
vague copper
willow hazel
exotic glacier
vague copper
#

Yeah 😛

#

At the time you could sit and text without looking on the phone and it went fast..

#

Ok im old but still 😛

exotic glacier
#

and because the phones had REAL buttons you could tell what you were typing.

#

im with you brother. Old here too

sturdy palm
# heavy ruin Speed is worthless?

Isn’t it the same amount of speed on boots as last tier? So yeah…pretty worthless given how much stats you need for 1% of speed

lilac ingot
#

anyone else not able to macro avatar at the moment?

chrome plover
#

clear cache folder

sick jungle
#

spec into it kekw

#

jks

exotic glacier
#

that is the second time someone has brought up avatar being funky for macros tho

restive pewter
#

is there some kind of hack to not overcap rage during recklessness

storm meadow
restive pewter
#

is it worth overwriting a bloodbath just to not overcap

lilac ingot
#

yeah its always worked for me until it just stopped today

slate light
lilac ingot
#

agreed^

#

follow priority

gusty cloak
#

what is prio?

restive pewter
carmine hawk
#

priority? I thought we all here mashing 1, 2, 3, 1, 2, 3

gusty cloak
#

gotcha, yeah i do the same

carmine hawk
#

dont forget to zug zug while doing that

versed seal
#

zug zug the most

sterile stratus
restive pewter
#

so im assuming we dont tokyo fucking drift 25s of bladestorm just to allign it with reck and avatar right

exotic glacier
craggy tulip
#

Hello , anyone good with weakauras that has a weakaura with a sound when whirldwind stacks drop^

#

cant manage to find any on wago

stiff barn
#

do we know yet how big of a buff did earthens passive get?

lean heart
craggy tulip
#

yeah i use that tho atm i would like to put a sound into it when stacks drop at 0

#

i tried but no success yet not very good at adding conditions into wa tho

thorn steeple
#

tempting

past pivot
#

They get jump+glide so might be worth it.

restive peak
#

Double stops OP

hard widget
#

Surviving even more OP

#

Nelf all the way

harsh crest
#

Can you still drop aggro as nelf tank?

modest condor
#

yes

harsh crest
#

Haven't played alliance in a long time lol

modest condor
#

your team wont like it

#

but yes

hard widget
balmy shore
rotund ginkgo
#

TEAM ROCKET BLASTING OFF

languid willow
#

question, should I be enraged bfore popping avatar?

#

or since avatar puts me into enrage its fine?

hard widget
#

If ur not talented into titan’s torment it doesnt matter either

languid willow
#

so since I have titanic rage

#

i dont haave to warrior about being enraged

#

b4 popping avatar

hard widget
#

Pretty much

#

Because it procs odyns, and odyns enrages you

languid willow
#

awesome ty for insight!

hard widget
#

No problem ^^

edgy widget
#

thanks @tidal kindle

restive peak
#

We love

fickle bluff
#

thanks @Gfury

tidal kindle
lost saffron
#

1% is still 1%

restive peak
#

NoGarms no life, we love Garms

#

My little charmander

warm crag
#

where is gfury

restive peak
#

@tidal kindle

sour abyss
#

Hey friends! Anyone know if the 90 > 15 crest upgrade bags are going to be available for next week, or are we free to sink as many bottom crests as possible into the adventurer gear rn?

spare steppe
edgy widget
restive peak
#

Turns out Ons really is dogwater basically

hard widget
restive peak
#

I mean .7% is legit nothing

#

If anyone thinks you need to play arms on ST for .7% they're just stupid

#

Could get 2 crits and beat it, while also being far tankier

#

This likely means you can just sit fury, I think w 2 VC our execute is even pretty similar

#

Arms may still be useful on early mythic prog on the ST bosses for the execute phase, but that's even debateable

hard widget
#

Not having to play arms in the current state, massive QOL

restive peak
#

Seriously it's so boring

hard widget
#

Well that, and it just plays meh imo

restive peak
#

Mind you losing both Ons+OF dumbs ours down quite a bit too, so a bit sad about that

#

Less weaving

hard widget
#

Especially in m+ its so horrible to play

restive peak
#

Well yeah, but fury is def better for M+

#

I think the only place arms was even really being considered was Sikran/Nexus, and maybe heroic silken because you can stack but that's gone as of mythic anyway

#

So 2 real fights where arms was possibly the play

spare steppe
restive peak
#

I mean that's a bit more of a consistent early rage problem that may lead to more than .7 of a gap, though

hard widget
restive peak
#

The APL showing the .7 DOES prio rend

glad siren
#

what is haste cap for fury

restive peak
#

So it's possible using TC for ST would put you below furys sim, these are diff things

spare steppe
#

I’m curious to see what it is using TC

#

cause it’s 80% of ap every 15s

restive peak
#

You're losing rage every 20s, so it's likely decent

balmy shore
restive peak
#

I would venture to say it's probably more than .7 to use TC>Rend on ST across a 5m fight

spare steppe
#

Isn’t it the same cost for both?

restive peak
#

Let me check, I setup my arms bars and then swapped back cuz arms is dog

#

But pretty sure the answer to that is no

spare steppe
#

Both 20 rage

restive peak
#

Well you don't even have TC for ST slayer arms

#

So yeah

spare steppe
#

It’s just the AP coefficient from the initial hit

restive peak
#

If they mean in M+, I don't know why that's even a concern, that I would say likely you just send TC

#

Oh no, rend hits way harder on ST

#

They're right

#

IF it's an ST moment

#

In M+

oblique trail
restive peak
#

Otherwise it's a non issue, you wouldn't have TC for ST slarms

spare steppe
#

It’s it’s ST in m+ yeah but I am curious about how much damage it actually ends up being

restive peak
#

There are also very few pure ST M+ bosses

#

Over a long enough fight, it's going to be a decent drop off to send TC>Rend, but also it's rare to have only 1 target in which case you'd send TC cuz value

#

I say decent meaning like 1-2%, it's still not THAT massive

#

But I would say it's laziness

spare steppe
#

In any regard, 0.7% somehow matters

#

Fury feels better

#

Thats enough for me

south kayak
#

It doesn't

#

next

restive peak
#

Fury is def the more fun spec rn

hard widget
restive peak
#

Slarms is extremely, extremely boring

spare steppe
oblique trail
balmy shore
#

i’m ngl i like arms aoe more now than last tier

#

but obviously still love fury

burnt kelp
restive peak
#

Arms AOE is less clunky for sure, but it's also worse than fury AOE

burnt kelp
#

fury actually feels pretty good

restive peak
#

So like....meh

balmy shore
#

yea i just hated how clunky it was before

restive peak
#

IDK I don't fuck w other classes much lol

#

Yeah, last tier arms AOE was a mess

#

Great damage...mess

balmy shore
#

but ig it’s also like not a big difference

#

if it’s still meh

restive peak
#

If they buff arms above fury for AOE, I wouldn't be sad to play it

#

But if they buff arms ST above fury by enough to really matter, I will be sad and bored all prog

balmy shore
#

xd

#

i’ve been having a lot of fun slaying fury

#

lots of swooshes

restive peak
#

Flurious

balmy shore
#

💅

tidal kindle
#

Only g-pressed

oblique trail
#

Go To Sleep

tidal kindle
#

What if all this shit was just a fucking dream....

balmy shore
#

gn

#

omg garms i got covvie like the week after you

#

was very upset

tidal kindle
#

No way I got an embed fail...

fickle bluff
#

tenor is shitting itself dw garm

tidal kindle
#

Yeah but now it's shitting on ME

fickle bluff
daring laurel
south kayak
subtle cypress
#

I know its already been discussed but man finally reading those 20th anniversary changes and im just laughing at the only 3 changes and ones just an icon update. Man this game hates us...or were just perfect already?

south kayak
#

Depends on priority, we're not as bad as Ele shamans were

tidal kindle
#

"We just don't want you to play dps warrior."

south kayak
#

or some of the hunter hero talents

restive peak
south kayak
#

NAh

#

we laugh at user

restive peak
#

Box wants to die apparently

south kayak
#

Yes

#

Please rid me of this life

humble plover
#

Same

tidal kindle
#

peepopour🪦

restive peak
#

Fr though, shame

void wharf
#

Do we always bladestorm on CD or are there scenarios where you would want to delay it to align it with the spear?

restive peak
#

Save if CDs are between 7-10s away

#

Otherwise send it

fickle bluff
#

current sims are waiting 9s

restive peak
#

Send it early send it often send it freely

daring laurel
restive peak
#

SEEEENDDDDDD ITTTTTT

daring laurel
#

I couldnt believe it

tidal kindle
#

I was watching the trial

#

And they just stopped it for like 5min for him

#

I was like NAH that shit was REAL?

coarse nest
#

I’ve been bladestorming when it’s up as long as I’m enraged

#

Feels right but might not be the most min max potential

#

ST*

junior gale
#

CDR means just fucking send that shit

restive peak
#

^

coarse nest
#

The sim usually casts slam 1 or 2 times for me that’s a YEET from the bars

restive peak
#

Unused CDR = pointless

#

I gotta be real

#

The Dracthyr animations are pretty sick

fickle bluff
spare steppe
spare steppe
#

Subtlety

restive peak
#

Sub sucks yes

#

Assa is just a plan ahead spec and we're used to go brrrr

junior gale
#

Assa also fucking owns but no one knows because who plays that shit

spare steppe
#

Not with the upcoming thistle tea change

#

Outside of CDs it plays awfully

restive peak
#

I don't care about ptr stuff, it's gonna change 15x before Nov

#

Right now, Assa feels very good if you can slow down and play it properly

#

And it's good, cuz if it played identical to fury/fdk...why play assa

spare steppe
#

Mutilate mutilate envenom repeat until it’s finally time to KB again

burnt kelp
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no way you think assa is worse than arms gameplay wise

restive peak
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Assa is a dot management and pooling spec

spare steppe
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I’m coming from playing assassination tbh

restive peak
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You're explaining the few second windows once opener is over and all dots are running

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That's like saying fury is just RB spam cuz sometimes we RB 3x in a row

spare steppe
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Got tired of it :/

brittle crow
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got back from a job interview
i think i managed to expand my warrior brain good enough to make a good impression

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we'll see tho

brittle crow
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not getting my hopes up so i dont get disappointed

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and if i do get hired ill have to spend a FUCKLOAD of money to prepare

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mechanic moment 🥹

warm crag