#fury

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lone pecan
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without slayer it says to do that

hard widget
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Nothing matters in terms of slayer with that rotation

dense elbow
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Just ignore thinking, just send it

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Don't worry, spec plays itself

lone pecan
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huh

winter shoal
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Slayer allows you to use execute above 20%

hard widget
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Trust me when i tell you to just follow the rotation that i send you

trail viper
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is this nerf or buff?

hard widget
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Ur gonna level very fast, and it doesnt matter to minmax for 10 levels

grand pine
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I guess it's just semantics then but when the author specifies it like that it makes it seem like we need to be really focused on that

winter shoal
hard widget
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Better get in the habbit ^^

dense elbow
lone pecan
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I just want to spin to win

trail viper
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gotcha

lone pecan
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Not read 😦

sullen dove
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fury rly doesnt even need more than like 5 or 6 lines its just boiled down to "hit rampage, then hit cb/bb" and if you cant hit any of those 3 buttons hit the other available buttons you have

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and cds are just yknow hit your cds

winter shoal
sullen dove
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most can be slapped in a macro

exotic glacier
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i mean, now the order matters less, right? CB v BB

sullen dove
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i think youd still rather cb first

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to buff bb

hard widget
sullen dove
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but it would still carry over

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to next bb so not rly that big a deal what u choose

hard widget
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And always CB before BB because of bloodcraze

dense elbow
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CB first to increase crit of BB, but ye

winter shoal
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BB over CB for aoe for the reap procs, CB over BB in single target for bloodcraze and to have less chance of running out of RB charges

hard widget
lone pecan
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how can I see that/manage that? Not really sure what DoT means

hard widget
winter shoal
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When you have the titan's torment talent

sullen dove
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basically just dont hit avatar and odyns fury within like 3 seconds of eachother

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and u should be set

lone pecan
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so I will see when there is like 1 secd left?

sullen dove
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dont even ahve to think about the time just go like avatar > 3 buttons > odyns

winter shoal
dense elbow
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I really recommend just skipping all that stuff till you learned the buttons

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Atm just play

exotic glacier
hard widget
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But realistically u always want to CB before BB

copper patio
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if you look at the # of abilities for the revvez apl vs normal apl they're really really similar lol

lone pecan
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I have raging blow but not crushing blow, is it while on enraged or something

soft orbit
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still feel a bit weird about using slam as fury

hard widget
lone pecan
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got it

hard widget
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Thats why just cb before bb

winter shoal
hard widget
lone pecan
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yeah

winter shoal
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Yeah just clarifying

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Also Revvez guide has raw BT over CB in aoe prio chatting

lone pecan
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so I have that as the rotation

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do I need more lol

winter shoal
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Charge

clever path
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rampage where

alpine knoll
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How can mastery be a better stat than haste? I get the enrage but i swear its always haste right?

winter shoal
lone pecan
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wait did I somehow forget rampage

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lmao

clever path
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XD

winter shoal
winter shoal
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Unless it's like BB > BS or something

lone pecan
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F

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I did

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lone pecan
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I added leap as well

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and charge

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anything else?

winter shoal
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If BS just comes off cd you would, but yeah super edge cases that don't really matter

dense elbow
clever path
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^

lone pecan
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so I don't need extra buttons?

clever path
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I think you overthink it abit too much

lone pecan
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I don't know it feels to simple

clever path
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spec is simple

winter shoal
lone pecan
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With ret paladin it feels like I have double buttons

dense elbow
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You should have all the buttons, but just start simple

next canopy
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Dracthyr double jump / glide / leap / charge meta

winter shoal
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Fury good spec for small hand smooth brain gamers like me 🙂

lone pecan
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lol

clever path
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or meatheads

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me for example

lone pecan
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I picked warrior because I think it looks badass and in last epich I really liked the spin to win paladin

winter shoal
clever path
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i shout i press rampage

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and im all about it

lone pecan
deft jay
lone pecan
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So I have this for now

winter shoal
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Bloodthirst on shift+5 is wild

dense elbow
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Just add all the buttons, I beg.

lone pecan
lone pecan
dense elbow
lone pecan
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lol

hard widget
# lone pecan

A piece of advice, go to ur spellbook. Look what is glowing (that it isnt on ur bars) and read what they do. And put them on ur bar

lone pecan
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Yeah will do

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But for now I want to figure rotation

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😅

clever path
lone pecan
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Then I will add the shiny buttons

clever path
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rampage my beloved

dense elbow
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You will see it when you play it

lone pecan
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so does this look all good for rotation?

dense elbow
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Sure

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Now play

clever path
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y

hard widget
lone pecan
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alright time to smash skulls

dense elbow
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Gl hfcatman

lone pecan
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dense elbow
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Ya will need all your buttons Rampage

lone pecan
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I already do with paladin

clever path
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u do miss ur stuns, regen/rally

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etc

hard widget
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More than a pally even

clever path
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utility!

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HAHAHA

hard widget
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Ur underselling us @clever path kekw

dense elbow
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Ppl always do

lone pecan
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I want to practice rotation and practice key binding to see what o change before adding the shiny buttons

sudden tusk
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Any math men here

dense elbow
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Nop

clever path
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i might be but

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i love us the way we are

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exotic glacier
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earthen buffed racial

sudden tusk
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do we know if the 10% from our T2 set also buffs the 20% from Slaughtering Strikes

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so it double dips on the rampage dam

lone pecan
hard widget
sudden tusk
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im a tard i can just check on the beta

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holdge

exotic glacier
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Math slides off my smoothness. so Im ignoring that question.

hard widget
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Damage is still wack tho from the set

dense elbow
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Last I heard, it was add, not mult - but that is from a known unstable source

lone pecan
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What is titanic rage? Just saw that and I don't have that?

dense elbow
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Odyns fury node

lone pecan
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I see

lone pecan
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how do I see if I am enraged and for how long

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buff at the top?

dense elbow
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Don't worry about it

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It is auto

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lone pecan
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what addon is that?

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any recommendation?

hard widget
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Sneaky, may i ask you about how advanced u are in terms of the game. So i can adjust my advice?

exotic glacier
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if you have the floating resource bar, (default blizz) enraged shows up there.

lone pecan
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What do I even look for

burnt crow
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weakauras

lone pecan
clever path
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better if you download a weakaura to track it if you're new

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exotic glacier
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hell yes Sneaky welcome to the correct team

clever path
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than default ui, but if you're that new

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Just enjoy the game

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and go with the flow

exotic glacier
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step off newbies are mine!

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Default UI with the resource bar will give you all you need to get started

hard widget
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All you need to know is that Xan is french, and that Warrior is a great class

lone pecan
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I started using elvui, plater and damage dealer, those really helped me

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Xan?

clever path
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warrior is the best* class

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Jeventes meant to say

dense elbow
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You don't wanna know ratge

exotic glacier
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blue name in here a noob.

hard widget
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Haha

modest condor
# alpine knoll How can mastery be a better stat than haste? I get the enrage but i swear its al...

a big thing to keep in mind is that stats do not have the same budget.
to get 1% haste you need 660 rating, to get 1% mastery you need 500 rating.
So if you have 10k rating and you put it all in haste you get 15.15% haste while if you put it all in mastery you get 20% mastery

so even if 1% haste and 1% mastery both increase your dps by 1%, mastery would still be more valuable because you need less rating to get that 1%

lone pecan
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Well I speak French lol

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So who is Xan 😂

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lone pecan
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ah fuck

exotic glacier
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Xan is a real person tho

lone pecan
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so weakauras provide that bar for enrage?

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I kinda got lost in there

dense elbow
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Let the guy go play the game now gladge

hard widget
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But forreal, just enjoy the game. Learn as you go and when u run into trouble u can adjust along the way

clever path
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and many more

exotic glacier
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because it can be super complex.

clever path
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dont bother with auras rn

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just play your game

soft orbit
clever path
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enjoy the "content" it has rn

lone pecan
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well I have it but super basic setting lol

dense elbow
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Xan is real, I seen him take poor into DMs critcake

exotic glacier
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look this up in the settings : Personal resource bar

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and turn it on.

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for now.

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more advanced stuff will be useful LATER. but for now that's plenty

lone pecan
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the first one?

exotic glacier
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yes

clever path
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y

lone pecan
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do I select the 3 under as well?

exotic glacier
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that way it will float just under you when you fight.

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I like only the show personal cds button

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the other two arent necessary IMO

dense elbow
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Ppl looking at that stuff as it matters, smh - ramp when you can ramp and send CB, GG ez

exotic glacier
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try it out and see if you like it, it shows the duration of Enraged which you keep up by hitting bloodthirsts or Rampages (mostly rampages)

lone pecan
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I see

exotic glacier
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gameplay is fast, but fun, and pretty darn simple 🙂

hard widget
# lone pecan well I have it but super basic setting lol

A super simple explaination of warrior:
When you press whirlwind, you will cleave your next 4 abilities (so they do damage to more mobs)
Your recklessness and Avatar are your "big cooldowns" They make u hit harder for a while.
Your thunderous roar and Bladestorm are big aoe abilities to smack a lot of mobs (you usually use these when u use the other "big cooldowns")
Bloodthirst and Raging blow give you rage. Rage is like mana we need it to press our main "spending ability"
Rampage is our "spending ability" that one consumes the Rage. This will make us "Enraged" (which makes us deal more dmg for a few sec)
Execute is a big d button when mobs are below a certain % hp to do dmg on them and also get some rage
Because you have Reckless Abandon, whenever you press Rampage (main spender) your bloodthirst and raging blow (builders) transform into -
Bloodbath instead of bloodthirst (basically a big d version of it) and Crushing Blow instead of Raging Blow (same thing, big d version)

This should get u going for a while

sudden tusk
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so it does not double dip its just fat

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flat

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T2 set + 1 Slaughting Strikes is just flat 30% increase it doesnt double dip or anything

exotic glacier
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normal hollow
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skyhold is a nice refuge right after patch notes come out - most other class discords are dooming or arguing about what will be meta in the future, and fury is just like "smooth brain fury go brrrrrr"

lone pecan
restive peak
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Cuz there’s legit nothing to stress about for like 2 months

young swan
normal hollow
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tell that to everyone else!

restive peak
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I don’t even worry about what I’m gonna eat tm bro

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I’ll figure that out then, same with whatever changes happen

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normal hollow
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actually i've seen several people in other discords who think these changes are happening now

soft orbit
exotic glacier
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the DPS FAQ page is written by a super nerd named Archi. It's quite easy to follow

lone pecan
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well the guide says so no?

young swan
exotic glacier
normal hollow
exotic glacier
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so you get 2 basically

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and Odyns Fury triggers a FREE (shorter) avatar state

lone pecan
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so do I trigger it with avatar or no :/

hard widget
# lone pecan well the guide says so no?

Sneaky, u havent played the class at all yet. And play the game for 2 weeks. U dont need to have perfect rotation yet, being 100% accurate with ur buttons is minmaxing. Just get familiar with the game and learn as you go, its the best advice i can give you. U will overwhelm urself and burn urself out by trying to instantly minmax

exotic glacier
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an OF goes off. but doesnt stop your button from being usable again

normal hollow
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you just don't want to immediately overwrite the OF DOT effect

exotic glacier
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if you press both at the same time, 2 Odyns Fury's will fire (and overwrite their bleed effecT)

young swan
normal hollow
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you have to wait for pandemic (which is 1 second)

dense elbow
young swan
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normal hollow
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but unless i'm not aware of something the avatar part doesn't matter, it just adds to the existing duration

young swan
dense elbow
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I am sure it has

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I seen it

exotic glacier
dense elbow
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Haunted me

lone pecan
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I tried to follow ish the guide you sent me, but I can never seem to press "execute"

exotic glacier
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execute is in a weird place

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rn it doesnt do that much damage

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we only really press it when we have 3 stacks of the Slayer talent spell

lone pecan
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which I don't have

hard widget
lone pecan
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I see

exotic glacier
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and if you're leveling from 1, thats a long time from now

lone pecan
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No I am 70

normal hollow
lone pecan
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I boosted 😅

dense elbow
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You spend execute naturally, in the rotation, don't worry about it

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Just play

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You will see

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Trust

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Autoplay spec

exotic glacier
spare steppe
normal hollow
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yea that's what I said I think

exotic glacier
normal hollow
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it increases the timer

lone pecan
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ayt imma try to learn that shit

hard widget
lone pecan
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thanks boys

exotic glacier
dense elbow
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God speed again

exotic glacier
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it's a game!!!!!

opaque falcon
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Why would anyone play arms over fury right now?

exotic glacier
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they like feeling sad?

dense elbow
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Preference?

exotic glacier
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it might be good in ST

normal hollow
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idk why do people play mages

hard widget
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Arms is actually better in ST (simbased)

normal hollow
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some people have bad preferences

hard widget
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Not by a lot, but it is

safe juniper
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they soft capped thunder roar and OF

dense elbow
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...

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opaque falcon
lone pecan
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so I kinda use rampage when everything is on cooldown right? Trying to understand

spare steppe
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wrong name there, my b. but maintaining ashen juggernaut is just below cds on the prio lists

normal hollow
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it doesn't seem like based on the S1 M+ meta 8+ targets is going to happen very often anyway

spare steppe
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Unless I’m understanding it wrong

restive peak
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It is by quite a bit, arms is simming 50kish ahead in current gear

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But ST doesn’t really tell the story on most fights

hard widget
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Damn

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Got scammed

restive peak
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It’s a decent chunk

dense elbow
lone pecan
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got it

hard widget
restive peak
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I mean the good news is slarms is incredibly faceroll for the 2 fights it’ll likely truly be better

hard widget
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Slarms 🤮

dense elbow
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Just tell yourself execute dam doesn't matter, only AoE burst

lone pecan
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so spam whirlwind 😂

hard widget
exotic glacier
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no.

lone pecan
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joking

hard widget
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U press whirlwind as ur 5th ability always in aoe

exotic glacier
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whew

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he's one of us already boys.

hard widget
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Unless u use avatar or odyns fury

spare steppe
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One of us one of us

exotic glacier
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40 seconds in and he's already causing trouble

dense elbow
lone pecan
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is bladestorm st or mt

safe juniper
fast sapphire
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in full fury stats my arms raid talents simm higher then fury

spare steppe
hard widget
dense elbow
hard widget
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I used 110% brainpower on it 😦

spare steppe
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Use it on cd unless avatar has <10s left

dense elbow
hard widget
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xd

dense elbow
white stream
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Every class: 2 pages of changes

Warrior: 2 bullet points

hard widget
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It was factually correct tho

white stream
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Kekw

modest condor
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lone pecan
exotic glacier
dense elbow
hard widget
exotic glacier
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he knows updog?

lone pecan
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so whirlwind isn't really that good, except to apply buff or something

spare steppe
hard widget
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Only to refresh the stacks

lone pecan
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got it 😂

hard widget
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Once every 5 abilities its ur favourite button

white stream
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Make ww off gcd

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Fixed

spare steppe
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Think classic warlock smoothness

exotic glacier
dense elbow
exotic glacier
eternal abyss
lone pecan
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so rotation, no bitches I press whirlwind to get aoe stuff, got it

restive granite
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dude what a dogshit set of datamined changes

dense elbow
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Now play

spare steppe
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F L E X

dense elbow
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I beg

exotic glacier
restive granite
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unsubbing

white stream
lone pecan
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I want to know what I am doing ish

restive granite
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habbo hotel>wow

white stream
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Wut

exotic glacier
hard widget
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We believe in you sneaky

dense elbow
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I dont, but I will pray

exotic glacier
hard widget
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The what now

dense elbow
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Jeve is a proud bannana earther, exxuse me? Flat? Pftsjh

hard widget
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Do i have a say in this too or?

dense elbow
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Nop

runic violet
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This doesn't feel too effective.

hard widget
exotic glacier
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you did until you let it stand for like 20 seconds un-replied to

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tidal galleon
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so i have a macro that involves avatar but for some reason when im in a bg, i cannot use avatar unless i manually cast it. its like literally the first line of my macro, /cast avatar and it doesnt work only in bg's. anyone else seen this?

spare steppe
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Whoa everyone knows the earth is carried through space on the back of elephants standing on a giant turtle

hard widget
runic violet
exotic glacier
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hey I believe it, this chat got softlocked by a Tape Measure today.

dense elbow
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tidal galleon
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i am getting swapped but the talents i have still have avatar

compact knot
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i need to be able to mog two handers as one handers right now holy shit

spare steppe
compact knot
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i need my arms hatsune miku mog

tidal galleon
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ok thats probably why then

spare steppe
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I can’t use bladestorm when I get force swapped between arms and fury

exotic glacier
hard widget
tidal galleon
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ty

dense elbow
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Aight, let's see if arms is alive

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deadge arms actually dead

worldly gulch
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Fury thriving

hard widget
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Thats a fast conclusion

worldly gulch
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PTR notes out. Warrior by far smallest section in pretty big overall class changes

dense elbow
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They usually jump me in less than a min

soft orbit
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i know its a bit early to tell but is this the tier for raid fury to be better for raid?

exotic glacier
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Let me check my balls

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🔮🔮 ask again later

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Shit sorry man

dense elbow
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Very toxic, true, but toxic

soft orbit
exotic glacier
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Today was a long work day.

exotic glacier
# soft orbit xddd

There’s not many single target fights and we do pretty well on cleave. Melee generally do alright in raids though. Our burst profile fits for priority add targets so I think we will be ok

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Tho Rally is a pathetic CD

dense elbow
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Priority add targets keks neat way to make pad sound good

buoyant salmon
exotic glacier
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Pad IS my priority in raid

buoyant salmon
dense elbow
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Priority add target extraordinair wicked

normal hollow
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people joke about padding but add burst does matter

buoyant salmon
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sometimes yes

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sometimes its useless

normal hollow
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might matter on broodtwister

dense elbow
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I believe it when I see it

normal hollow
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there are some difficult fights where it's like, essential

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like avatar

buoyant salmon
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dathea

dense elbow
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Usually AoE is overkilled by a 3000%

buoyant salmon
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in good guilds you try to get just enough aoe without losing much st

dense elbow
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Yarp

buoyant salmon
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fury loses basically no st to gain a ton of aoe

exotic glacier
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Either way, fury will be fine.

modest condor
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which is where a fury warrior comes in

buoyant salmon
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fury would have to be pretty grossly undertuned to not even be considered in a raid

dense elbow
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So don't take OF, grab OS - more st still decent cleave value

exotic glacier
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We have fun in here because we are fine. @modest condor how’s the rogue discord, are they having fun?

normal hollow
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they're probably happy

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no more shadowdust is a great change

modest condor
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i wouldnt know im a warrior rogue

normal hollow
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although it took way too long

buoyant salmon
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eh thistle tea change is kinda cringe for good players

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exotic glacier
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SMF is back boys!

dense elbow
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🗡️Rampage 🗡️

white stream
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Still rogue has one of the most boring hero talents

exotic glacier
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When packleader exists?

white stream
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One of the most, not the most

exotic glacier
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Sorry for going nuclear

normal hollow
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rogue in general has been the most visually boring class in the game forever

dense elbow
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Says warrior

white stream
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Totally lost his identity

exotic glacier
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I mean… warriors have very few visual things.

normal hollow
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rogue is still worse I think

white stream
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Warrior need a skills animation rework asap

buoyant salmon
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does it though?

exotic glacier
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Nah. Pistol shot is pretty dope

sudden sun
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Is there a difference between the Claymore or Axe + embellishment?

normal hollow
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I think it's part of the reason it's historically one of the least popular classes just in terms of raw numbers

buoyant salmon
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what are you gonna rework animation wise

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this slash looks different now

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whoopty do

normal hollow
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bladestorm is a nice visual

exotic glacier
spare steppe
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Warrior visuals feel good they gotta fix the audibles

ashen socket
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Poopy spear complete

dense elbow
spare steppe
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I need some heft to those swings

exotic glacier
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Poop spear is rough

buoyant salmon
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of isnt fire its a bleed

normal hollow
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bleeding fire

dense elbow
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It used to be fire

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Make it fire again

covert blaze
ashen socket
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was like a 50/50 for either or

buoyant salmon
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if they did that, sure

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but it wouldnt make sense to make it fire visuals now

soft orbit
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all of this icon changes makes me wish there was a spearmaster warrior spec like xin zhao from league

dense elbow
serene vessel
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so if I understand this correctly, with RA I'm supposed to crushing blow then bloodbath?

exotic glacier
restive granite
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idk i love how warriors charge with their shoulder, leave a fire trail behind and jump around

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i think everyone notices a warrior in a group

exotic glacier
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And we can’t even get spear and shield.

dense elbow
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Fury can

ashen socket
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As much as I like nelf there aint no way I am not gonna swap to dracthyr

dense elbow
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Wdum

white stream
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That sums up

exotic glacier
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…………………….

spare steppe
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Can I get a tldr

restive granite
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reddit 🤮

spare steppe
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I don’t read Reddit opinions

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Something about having fake standards

buoyant salmon
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i wouldnt really consider not duplicating animations as an animation rework personally

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but i agree there shouldnt be as much reusing as there is especially on core abilities

exotic glacier
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Any new animation is, by definition, work.

buoyant salmon
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i dont disagree

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but they said rework

restive granite
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i honestly think theyre fine, i dont want more screenfuckering when the ground is lava 90% of the time

buoyant salmon
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which is different

exotic glacier
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I just wish they had clearer outlines around dangerous floor zones or aoes. Like Wildstar had.

normal hollow
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eh I think that looks cartoony at a certain point

sudden tusk
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Reading those patch notes is so funny

exotic glacier
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Or at least somewhere between what we have and that.

sudden tusk
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Pages and pages of changes and warriors just a footnote

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we dont really need big changes, but something new would be nice

buoyant salmon
#

i agree i dont know why they INSIST on having terribly unclear visuals for the sake of (im assuming) thematic fit

exotic glacier
normal hollow
#

I think it's only a big problem when the color of the effect blends in with the color of the floor

hard widget
normal hollow
#

those often get changed

white stream
sudden tusk
buoyant salmon
#

when swirlies look how they do? its always a problem

#

also i dont think warrior really needs any drastic reworks

exotic glacier
buoyant salmon
#

the class isnt fundamentally flawed

white stream
#

Id rather a footnotes instead of they fucking the class

sudden tusk
#

I think arms could use a complete overhaul personally

#

but thats just m

buoyant salmon
#

fury thane needs tuning changes not changes to gameplay

normal hollow
#

some of the new effects are pretty annoying though in terms of clutter

dense elbow
#

When swirlies are hidden under carpets, water and grass...

hard widget
#

Arms, colossus and Thane all need work imo

normal hollow
#

one of the DK dudes from riders of the apoclapyse just runs around with a big red circle

white stream
normal hollow
#

and you think it's a bad enemy circle thing because that's what your brain is hardwired to do

#

ok well whatever it is, it sucks

sudden tusk
#

you gain the DnD effect but yeah its weird

hard widget
dense elbow
woeful token
#

Is it really better to use crushing blow, raging blow, and bloodbath over execute if ashen juggernaut is at full stacks and not falling off?

exotic glacier
#

Yes

soft orbit
#

you mean you dont like when swirlies are on stairs and they clip through the terrain?

exotic glacier
#

CB does more damage than an AJ stacked Execute

#

Execute just helps us get back BS faster.

dense elbow
hard widget
#

I mean, cmon blizzard

modest condor
#

yes that delve is so badly designed

hard widget
#

I actually got annoyed

sudden tusk
#

i didnt realize you could move while channeling

#

for the first one i did

hard widget
modest condor
#

the swirlies are still invisible so it's still rng

exotic glacier
quartz tulip
orchid ridge
#

If I were to buy a darkmoon deck as a temp trinket as a fresh 80 which is the best to buy?

hard widget
#

I was like headbutting my pc in order to somewhat see the swirls @modest condor

#

Just let me do what im good at, lemme kill things in dungeons fast and efficiently

bitter ether
#

Is Maxroll guide right in that we will be doing aoe spec for alot of the fights?

static rock
#

I just tried doing some raid ST, but i feel like I'm missing something. Would appreciate input

restive granite
#

is maxroll any different in wow than it is in PoE?

#

for PoE its kinda bad and lame, they steal most of their content

calm quartz
#

tfw Fury, only differences I see in guides is W&F vs Ashen... Look at Demonology, literally 4 sites have different guide writers and different recommended hero trees and talents

exotic glacier
modest condor
#

both of those should be 40 as well

static rock
#

So I shouldn't prioritise rampage, instead make sure i get all 3?

modest condor
#

yes

#

and since you didnt know that i would advice you to read one of the guides linked in #dps-faq

exotic glacier
modest condor
#

since it's like the core of our current rotation

spare steppe
#

And I’ve done ~50 ish so far

dense elbow
#

Why do delve

hard widget
#

I started leveling brann today

#

Horrible experience

spare steppe
#

Level Brann and want achievement

hard widget
#

I suck at being casual idk, i feel like an idiot

spare steppe
#

And learn which variants to avoid

white stream
soft orbit
#

maybe you should have leveled brann before they hard locked him at 15 /s

hard widget
white stream
modest condor
white stream
#

Or press the same amount or not

exotic glacier
spare steppe
#

Luxthos has it integrated

hard widget
white stream
#

Yeah I'm using it, but since we are just spamming it

exotic glacier
#

I mean, bb was always used on cd. Wasn’t it?

white stream
#

If bloodbath and CB should have the same casts as rampage why would i track anything

hard widget
hard widget
#

U still have RB and BT

dense elbow
#

What would you use, exe? Hydrate

spare steppe
#

The worst feeling is when you have no buttons to press and sub 80 rage

#

And you have to touch whirlwind

white stream
#

Yeah..., talking about the % track

dense elbow
#

WW makes me smile, swoppsh swopsh swopsh

white stream
#

Since on most scenarios i will def use it before crit cap

white stream
#

Jk

dense elbow
#

Slam is depression

spare steppe
#

It is depression

#

It’ll get better with stats

dense elbow
#

Remove slam, move dam into WW, small win

spare steppe
#

I’m not against that

#

Arms get a stronger cleave, fury loses a silly button

dense elbow
#

Arms need their slam tho

spare steppe
#

Oh and buff execute

dense elbow
#

But if we buff exe, we gotta Nerf BT/RB

#

And ppl want flat profile

#

So that a no go

#

I personally wouldn't mind execute to be the button, but that ain't what ppl want

brittle crow
#

i like curvy

dense elbow
#

I like spiky, calm, then full pedal to the metal Vegeta scream

eternal canopy
#

guys

#

LETS GOOO

dense elbow
eternal canopy
dense elbow
#

Btw, how we feeling about asking for LoH for the 100% armor buff for our burst?

hasty tide
#

whelmed

static rock
#

there's actually a buff they gave us fyi

serene vessel
#

chat does titans torment enrage u

hasty tide
#

if you have titanic rage

covert blaze
serene vessel
#

it does u liar

covert blaze
#

?

#

titanic rage enrages you

serene vessel
#

who takes one without the other

covert blaze
#

are you asking if the OF casted by avatar enrages you?

dense elbow
#

Most ppl

#

TR is a DPS loss compared to its options

#

It is QoL tho

serene vessel
#

right sorry, forgot u guys play the wow mini game

#

i meant for m+

covert blaze
#

i'm confused

buoyant salmon
#

yuski what the fuck are u talking about lol

covert blaze
#

any OF, natty ones or casted by Avatar will enrage you if you have titanic rage

hasty tide
#

wish the ptr notes said slayer would actually make execute worth using

covert blaze
hasty tide
#

delves the new endgame, welcome to the future old man /s

burnt stone
#

Crushing Force now increases Bloodthirst critical strike damage by +5/10% instead of Critical Strike chance by +2/4%.

Buff? Nerf?

hasty tide
#

tiny buff

serene vessel
covert blaze
spare steppe
#

Hot take

covert blaze
spare steppe
#

Delves is the real content

jade rampart
#

is upgrading renown gear worth, or don't use the carved crest?

covert blaze
#

try pugging hall of fame

#

and come say that again

prime fjord
#

do we run double authority of depths or 1 depths and 1 radiant power for weapon enchants?

brittle crow
#

we wait until s1

#

to see if stuff changes

hasty goblet
#

any recommendation on what renown faction i should focus on? like any rep high item level gear i should be targeting from one of them?

serene vessel
covert blaze
#

what is your point

hasty tide
#

meh, as a M+ only player i think the raids are more important from the perspective of "high end content" but M+ is more accessible to most players which is the appeal

covert blaze
#

are you saying boss fights with 2 mechanics that last 7 minutes is harder than a mythic end boss

#

military-grade copium

young swan
#

u wont be playing it if ur pushing relevant content

dense elbow
#

Bad as in output, not as in QoL

young swan
#

well yes

#

obviously

#

QoL doesnt translate to damage (generally)

spare steppe
young swan
covert blaze
hasty goblet
dense elbow
#

Nah, cause we delay our burst, and OF usually will overlap with some WW stacks when cast

spare steppe
#

Why are we debating raid vs m+, its all relevant content

brittle crow
#

rep gear instantly replaced by s1 gear

spare steppe
#

People can like whatever they want

serene vessel
#

m+ is the only relevant content in wow

young swan
#

people will still play it but if ur trying to min/max shit then ur not gonna play it cause its just a QoL talent at the cost of prio/ST damage (potentially)

hasty tide
serene vessel
hasty goblet
covert blaze
#

love how turbulent everything regarding prio and balance that we need disclaimers keks

brittle crow
#

hallowfall has cooler mounts

spare steppe
young swan
spare steppe
#

Except rogues

hasty goblet
brittle crow
#

the anub title is goated

#

but it doesnt work with my mains names very well

#

might have to name change

#

...

dense elbow
#

Anyone that tells ppl to not run TR, is antifun, and should be exiled

serene vessel
hasty goblet
#

alright so pretty much just cosmetic choice at this point haha good to know

covert blaze
#

it's all scripted

serene vessel
#

spoiler alert so is raiding

covert blaze
#

youre just doing an easy boss all day every day until you figure it out

#

or it gets figured out

young swan
eager thorn
serene vessel
#

yes

eager thorn
#

p much standard quality stuff

serene vessel
#

i know

covert blaze
#

and in a 5 man, the factors are not variable enough

serene vessel
#

thats why i said point for point

young swan
#

there is no direct comparison for raiding and m+ where m+ is the harder form of contnet

brittle crow
#

i mean the hardest part of raids is getting so many people to not fuck it up

#

thats no secret

young swan
#

WF keys are easier than WF raiding

#

titles keys are easier than HoF raiding

buoyant salmon
#

title keys are piss easy and hof raiding is piss easy

#

youre not good for doing either

covert blaze
#

keys are easier

#

period

buoyant salmon
#

you just have a lot of time

covert blaze
#

the problem solving is a fraction of the complexity

serene vessel
#

If I could clone myself 19 times, I'd be HoF guild

brittle crow
#

real and same

buoyant salmon
#

probably bc being in a hof guild is much less about how good you are and more about if you can commit to raiding however many nights a week

eager thorn
#

the real problem solving of raiding is finding 19 other ppl with > double digit iq

serene vessel
#

I actually really enjoy raiding but its just too much of a time commitment

dense elbow
brittle crow
#

also real

serene vessel
dense elbow
#

And so it begins

young swan
serene vessel
#

? I am the alpha and the omega

brittle crow
#

i would pick a fight with myself over tank privileges

#

tbh

covert blaze
young swan
#

IM the original

serene vessel
covert blaze
#

not anime

brittle crow
#

????????????????????

young swan
#

invincible isnt anime?

dense elbow
#

It is animated tho

#

So half a point

brittle crow
#

fish react him

covert blaze
young swan
#

🐟

serene vessel
#

its anime

young swan
#

its animated

#

not anime

covert blaze
#

anime = japanese

brittle crow
#

by this logic the simpsons is an anime

covert blaze
#

so no

dense elbow
#

My god, Dora the Explorer is an Anime

serene vessel
brittle crow
#

u know?

#

fair enough

brittle crow
#

im starting to get on board w/ that argument now

dense elbow
spare steppe
#

Isn’t invincible considered adult animation or some shit

covert blaze
#

it's an animated show

dense elbow
#

It is a cartoon, yarps

covert blaze
#

the themes are adult yeah

dense elbow
#

I would call it it teen, more than adult Hydrate

spare steppe
#

The violence is what makes it considered adult

covert blaze
#

looking at imdb it says 18+ for almost every country

#

the show is gory even if animated

dense elbow
#

Gore is 16, sex is 18 peepostudy

covert blaze
#

literally look at imdb

#

idk

winter shoal
#

Fellas why are whetstones so expensive? Who thought making them require null stones was a good idea?

dense elbow
#

Who knows

dense elbow
#

Buy em in 3 weeks when bots flood the market

winter shoal
#

Revvez guide just says whetstones

compact knot
#

i need guidance

dense elbow
#

Oil early, stone/rune late

covert blaze
#

i remember reading somewhere oils are better idk

winter shoal
covert blaze
#

who knows anymore

brittle crow
covert blaze
#

there are like 3 different theorycraftings and they change everyday

serene vessel
#

weebs will really say "animated? Cringe. Animated (Japan) POGGERS"

sudden tusk
#

what even makes those oils

dense elbow
sudden tusk
#

its not alc

covert blaze
compact knot
#

i had good glove mog but it was fucking cloth

orchid ridge
#

As a fresh 80 is it worth to use any of the darkmoon decks?

brittle crow
#

no

sudden tusk
#

enchanting makes the wep oils?????????

jade rampart
#

what's best socket

compact knot
#

nobody speaks in that channel

dense elbow
#

That is a lie

winter shoal
patent tundra
#

quick question

dense elbow
#

They filled with degens in Transmog

patent tundra
#

whats prio bloodthirst or ragingblow

dense elbow
#

Rb

brittle crow
#

dps faq

compact knot
brittle crow
#

that is incorrect

compact knot
#

no?

dense elbow
#

To be fair, it doesn't really matter

#

Minimal impact, send BT on AoE if ya don't want to 'maybr minamx' TM

compact knot
#

you 100% prio bt on aoe like 4 targets +

brittle crow
#

u prio rampage

compact knot
#

no shit

#

lol

dense elbow
#

Nah, cause RB give BT crit chance

compact knot
#

in context to the question man

brittle crow
#

bt is going to be on cd because u just used it

#

so u press raging blow then u press rampage

#

then u press crushing blow

dense elbow
#

Not if he played AM

brittle crow
#

AM weirdge

dense elbow
#

Question indicates AM

hard widget
#

If playing AM u prio BT

#

Unless in ST AM then u go 90% crit chance on BT before sending it

hoary roost
#

I love these servers for classes where it's 10 ppl saying diff things on how best to play.

dense elbow
#

Well, there are 2 options

brittle crow
#

u just gotta know the correct ppl to listen to

hoary roost
#

Yes

patent tundra
#

ye but like theres 1 good build currently whats the prio on that

hard widget
#

Regardless, ur barely going to play AM anyways

dense elbow
#

RA, rb bt

eager thorn
dense elbow
#

SMF is low-key opop

#

Don't sleep on it

eager thorn
#

Thunderfury transmog surely makes up for the 10% dps loss

runic violet
#

I want to play SMF

hardy cargo
#

@young swan who you play in hots? we may have had this conversation before

young swan
#

i play aram

hard widget
#

There is just 1 key diff between AOE With AM and AOE with RA
With AM u dont want to overcap, and with RA u dont care.
So with AM u press BT as much as possible between Rampages and fill with RB, while on RA u just press CB -> BB -> Ramp

young swan
#

big qhira fan tho

hardy cargo
#

I enjoy locking in varian and playing arms to piss my team off bc we now have no tank 🙂

#

I dont think ive played qhira she looks fun

dense elbow
#

Just play sylvannas, push solo, GG ez

covert blaze
#

Big Zeratul guy here

#

(10 years ago or some shit)

hardy cargo
#

samuro very fun too

#

the hero talent I never had sadge

dense elbow
#

All I remember from that game is: LoL was a lot more fun

#

No items, no carrying, no nothing

#

LoL had Zed

eager thorn
#

Thats a positive in some cases though

#

Cant have ur game ruined by some virgin smurfing

dense elbow
#

Can't be ruined by a smurf if you are a smurf

hardy cargo
#

yeah but I instead am not only negatively impacted by inters once but twice

#

which is way more common than smurfs

covert blaze
eager thorn
eager thorn
dense elbow
#

You overestimate the diff of who gets fed with Kata first keks

covert blaze
#

what's your peak rank kitty

dense elbow
#

Hm

hardy cargo
#

chal 1k lp

dense elbow
#

Plat is the thing after gold ye?

eager thorn
#

Yes

dense elbow
#

Been so many years

#

Think plat

eager thorn
#

My analogy was accurate pog

runic violet
#

Fury rotation is already pretty fast and feels fluidic at 20% haste.

#

I think crit is going to be higher priority soon

dense elbow
#

Doubt that - even with BT crit mod

#

If a new tier set buffing baseline BT dam comes out, then maybe

warped bone
#

Oo dang i take a nap for 2 hours and PTR changes with so many class stuff 😮

#

Hunter changes seems pretty dang good

dense elbow
#

Well, hold on to your socks for when you go to warrior

warped bone
#

Already seen those 😛

#

Changed BT is interesting. But doubt it will change much of anything. Right?

eternal lance
dense elbow
#

Ye, it won't do anything before we get a new DFs3

warped bone
#

Smol buff for the ones that like Colo prot at least

dense elbow
#

Biggest buff is the 100% armor from Lay on Hands

#

30 sec too, for max dam xan

warped bone
#

Oo. skipped out on most of pala stuff. G'dang wall of text

#

I saw something about more glory healing xD

winter shoal
warped bone
#

Writes down. Makes the pala of guild LoH me

dense elbow
#

Your opener will be legendary

warped bone
#

It won't happen. Our pala don't care for me much 😄

covert blaze
#

can you give me the name of the talent @dense elbow

warped bone
deft jay
dense elbow
#

Empyreal ward something something

warped bone
#

"Rahtae, why are you always standing in things when your DPS CDs are ready" No reason

winter shoal
dense elbow
#

It is only a 4-5% amp?

#

No biggie

#

(i can hear the drama and screams in the guild discords already)

runic violet
#

Hmmm... crushing blow has the highest priority, correct?

winter shoal
hard widget
#

Only thing over CB (when like bigbowwl already said with cds) is Execute if ur about to drop AJ

dense elbow
#

Wonder if there is a discord bot that can intercept those repeating questions, and answer them automatically peepostudy

runic violet
#

what about...

runic violet
#

crushing blow?

hard widget
runic violet
#

XD

dense elbow
#

Ye, but we need a TTS bot

covert blaze
#

just need commands

#

!RA

#

and shit like that

winter shoal
#

!smf

dense elbow
#

Won't be enough

covert blaze
dense elbow
#

It needs full AI functionality

winter shoal
eager thorn
#

5% not even that bad honestly

winter shoal
#

5% is easily within the difference of playing well, yes, but it's also 5% damage literally for free

#

Like I said there, if that's worth it to you (in a general sense, not you specifically) then you can make that call

#

Kinda goes insane idk

warped bone
#

What did i miss. Smol 2H axe to make it feel like you playing SMF?

winter shoal
#

Yeah, it plays the exact same but a lot of people seem to want to go SMF for the xmog

sinful spoke
#

whats everyones crafted piece going to be

warped bone
#

That's fair

winter shoal
#

I'm a fan of the new big choppy swords personally

runic violet
#

big choppy swords always great

sinful spoke
#

scissors

winter shoal
sinful spoke
#

im thinking the same

#

idk yet tho

valid drum
warped bone
#

A question btw. 11.05 patch is that Anniversary?

junior gale
#

yes

warped bone
#

ok

copper parcel
warped bone
# junior gale yes

Now that i properly read the other headlines they do all say 11.0.5 and Anniversary together quite often. xD

valid drum
#

Once sims says the other thing is better, probably not happening season 1

young swan
#

so

#

i doubt it

spare steppe
#

Let me hope for crit over vers

sinful spoke
#

Why would crit even be high priority as a fury warrior

#

Doesnt rlly make sense does it

spare steppe
#

So that I can swap to prot/arms easier

sinful spoke
#

Just get more gear lol

runic violet
#

I like big numbers lol

summer rain
#

Hi - Wowhead consumable section says Algari Mana Oil should be used
raidbots sims tell me whetstone is 0.3% ahead of mana oil

is wowhead outdated or raidbots not updated? i set raidbots to latest

junior gale
#

always trust your robot

spare steppe
#

Unless it tells you to go arms since it has higher ST, that’s a lie

#

The number is right but the feels aren’t

summer rain
#

I dont mind either spec i play which ever is best for given encounter in raid

scenic halo
#

is RB still prio over BT?

spare steppe
#

Yes

#

And CB basically has the highest prio for rotationals

runic violet
#

The tier set bonus is kinda weak

#

buffing the weakest rotation skill :0

covert blaze
odd star
#

warrior got 10 seconds of changes in 11.0.5. seems about right

serene vessel
#

is powerful enrage really better than frenzied enrage?

brittle crow
#

yes

#

accept it now and it hurts less later

serene vessel
#

sadge

runic violet
covert blaze
serene vessel
#

I was hoping it was personal preferecne because frenzied feels more fun

runic violet
#

powerful enrage?

serene vessel
runic violet
#

oh

#

got it

young swan
#

powerful is only really better in aoe content

#

but even then i think u can make an argument for frenzied

serene vessel
#

unfortunate so the ebst content its bis 😦

young swan
#

again

#

read what i said

#

but even then i think u can make an argument for frenzied

serene vessel
#

xan got sassy when he got a blue name

young swan
#

ive always been sassy i fear

#

depends on my mood

#

i used to be mean

serene vessel
#

does reap split dam or nah

young swan
#

nopers

#

its goated

serene vessel
#

oh wtf

sullen dove