#fury

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carmine hawk
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wasnt it like 1.5k?

eternal sundial
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they nerfed waxbags

winter shoal
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From one bag idk, I was getting like 40k gph from the mining bags

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But that's with a large-ish sample size

carmine hawk
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damn

winter shoal
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If you just do 15 mins and get no null stones it's joever

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One hour is also like 600-800 valorstones too

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And you can stockpile wax to turn in for more valorstones for after season starts

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But yeah herb/mining is like 60k gph

eternal sundial
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irl work is like token gold per hour

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so

winter shoal
narrow narwhal
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Go exercise

winter shoal
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You think I'm gonna spend my time outside or something?

carmine hawk
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Nuh uh

winter shoal
eager thorn
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if ur gonna spend irl gp on enchants u may as well just buy raid items too

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and why even play at that point

winter shoal
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Based

carmine hawk
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It was 29 deegres outside today I[m not touching that grass

winter shoal
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Is that a lot or a little for you

eager thorn
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depends if its c or f really

carmine hawk
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C

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Who with even a shred of sanity inside would use F

winter shoal
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It's been beautiful here since the weekend, like high 60s/low 70s

carmine hawk
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high 60

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damn

winter shoal
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That's like 20c or some shit idk

carmine hawk
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you guys must be crispy

eager thorn
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kinda have to

winter shoal
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Okay you've convinced me I'm gonna go touch grass now

willow hazel
carmine hawk
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Wtf is texas

bitter ether
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I'm probably going to regret asking but is izen not a very reputable source lol

carmine hawk
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Apparently

winter shoal
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He's probably right about a lot of things, but he talks about EVERYTHING because he makes so many videos, so he says a lot of things that are wrong in the process

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Nobody can know everything, but it's also wise to recognize the boundaries of one's knowledge

alpine haven
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Why would I need to worry about reputable sources when I can be spoonfed information here

winter shoal
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This but unironically

carmine hawk
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If he talks about sims how can he says anything wrong

alpine haven
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hey guys what keyboard do I need to optimize my sim dps

carmine hawk
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Numbers dont lie

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I think

carmine hawk
winter shoal
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Sims can be wrong though, APLs change, etc

eager thorn
carmine hawk
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Aight time to watch cartoon about half naked muscle men punching each other before sleep night night boyos

restive peak
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Yeah revvez I think threw it together assuming bugs would be fixed and left it cuz it’s definitely a bit behind now haha. Which is fair…24 char prep nothanks

modest condor
# carmine hawk If he talks about sims how can he says anything wrong

At one point during beta there were some huge buffs and nerfs going around, for example both arms and fury got a 30% aura buff. Someone made a spreadsheet with number changes after that and while i don't know every spec, i knew enough about fury and arms to know that the numbers for them on that sheet were complete fiction.
Now that isn't to say that izen's sheet is wrong, but don't trust every spreadsheet just because they claim to be sim numbers.

Also just because someone has a history of being wrong doesn't mean everything they say is wrong. It's possible that this sheet is completely accurate, but i've seen videos about fury that were wrong on a lot of levels so i'm sceptical about his content in general.

carmine hawk
restive peak
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I’ve seen several sim lists floating around this week that are verifiably dead wrong on more than just us, some people are still using an old apl etc

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All we can really worry about is warrior

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(We’re goated)

hard widget
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At the end of the day, does it really matter what a demon hunter sims? Ur a warrior. Ur either in or out the raid roster, and u can sim ur own char to see how well ur doing

junior gale
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no other class has charge

hard widget
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Atleast thats what i think

junior gale
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imagine playing wow without charge sheesh

lone zinc
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id delete wow

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and the temp files too

fading sky
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I still enjoy izens yappin though

fickle bluff
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chatting trust our spreadsheet

alpine haven
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Spreadsheets would never lie

rare garden
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trust my spreadsheet available for patreon $25/month subscribers

edgy widget
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trust the spreadsheet

alpine haven
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it has to be true archi posted it

edgy widget
olive wraith
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Fury is above tww

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You heard it here first

alpine haven
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Someone make a video of that spreadsheet

olive wraith
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Quick photo shop it and put smf/thane

edgy widget
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I don't think that sheet goes down far enough 📉

olive wraith
hard widget
silent hornet
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who cares about sims vs other classes, i play warrior and zug out no matter what

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me have 2 swords, me smash

willow hazel
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it's really very simple. I play the spec/class that can dual wield two handed weapons. it is implicitly the best for that reason.

silent hornet
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why have 1 big sword when can have 2?

rotund ginkgo
rotund ginkgo
silent hornet
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i hope its baki

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love baki

carmine hawk
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It's kengan ashura

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baki's better but no new season 😦

rotund ginkgo
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Cap

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Baki is so bad it's good

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Baki is legit nonsensical atp

sudden heath
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!guide

carmine hawk
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Yes

rotund ginkgo
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It's literally a gag adrenaline show

carmine hawk
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Yes

rotund ginkgo
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I prefer Kengan

carmine hawk
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Where problem

rotund ginkgo
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A man of culture

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No problem

carmine hawk
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I'm used to cgi by now but it hurt at first watching kengan

rotund ginkgo
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Baki just inferior to Kengan, still enjoyable

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I liked it tbf

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The Baki vs Kengan Netflix special made me feel weird

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2d Kengan

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Uncanny valley

carmine hawk
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It was so ass

rotund ginkgo
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Was just a good way to pass an hour in bed

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Fucking goated characters

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No one:
Baki: shadow boxing a giant grasshopper

rotund ginkgo
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England doesn't count

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England also uses inches and feet for some reason

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But meters

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And kilometers

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And kg

eager thorn
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Ye idk which measurements are na/eu honestly

rotund ginkgo
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Make up ur damn mind

austere apex
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So for embellishments what is the route one should be taking?

eager thorn
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All just a blur in my head

exotic glacier
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have we already entered the "we wont get raid spots" doom chat?

rotund ginkgo
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Metric is eu

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Imperial is na

eager thorn
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Yea that means nothing to me

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Idk whats in what

rotund ginkgo
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If it ends in meter

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It's European

teal pine
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Kengan ashura is goated. Kengan omega is the worst thing I’ve ever read (and I read it every week)

eager thorn
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I see

exotic glacier
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mudslap needs to add my parentheses to their name too

carmine hawk
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Metric is the normal one and superior so if you see someone measuring something in feet or some other shrimp per corn squared you know they from NA

eager thorn
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I am smooth brain but thats just not y

exotic glacier
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Uhhhhh

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I mean I guess that depends on RL age? Maybe?

eager thorn
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I mean when do you ever need to know which is which really

edgy widget
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this is imperial

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this is metric

rotund ginkgo
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Real

eager thorn
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Its not really pertinent info

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Idk who metric are

exotic glacier
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Man never builds or measures anything. He must be confident

rotund ginkgo
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If they force choke u it's na

edgy widget
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me neither, but google did

eager thorn
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But star wars meme is w

eager thorn
eager thorn
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I’m not saying i dont know what measurements are

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Just idk which class they belong to

rotund ginkgo
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Literally anything when you look at any measurement ever?

edgy widget
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apparently everyone in here is a fucking carpenter or some shit

exotic glacier
rotund ginkgo
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If it has mili, kilo, centi, deci etc it's metric

eager thorn
rotund ginkgo
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No, I instantly know it's imperial?

edgy widget
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the guy didn't say he didn't understand measurements, he just said he didn't know which was which lol

eager thorn
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Ok well good for u

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Ye

edgy widget
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like damn lol

rotund ginkgo
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Ye and I explained

exotic glacier
rotund ginkgo
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If it ends in meter it's metric

edgy widget
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see, that's just a bad naming convention

rotund ginkgo
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Otherwise if it's not a unit of length, aka liters, if it ends in liter it's metric

edgy widget
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should have been the meter system dracthyr_nod

exotic glacier
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Literal astronauts have had this problem

rotund ginkgo
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Tbf not really cuz milliliter is metric

eager thorn
rotund ginkgo
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Basically ok mudslap

exotic glacier
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I now feel like I’m taking crazy pills.

rotund ginkgo
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If it has

Milli
Centi
Deci

carmine hawk
eager thorn
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Ye i understand that now

exotic glacier
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When you measure your dick, you’ll care if it’s inches or centimeters.

rotund ginkgo
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Etc like kilo yapa yapa

eager thorn
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My main point was knowing if cm is imperial or not literally doesnt matter

rotund ginkgo
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I mean it depends which u use

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That's it rly

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In the case of uk, u use both

verbal rivet
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I love how a tape measure brought the whole discord to its knees lmao

eager thorn
carmine hawk
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It doesnt matter but its like not knowing that wow players cant touch grass

rotund ginkgo
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Real

carmine hawk
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so you can brag to your mom about it

rotund ginkgo
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Also Real

exotic glacier
rotund ginkgo
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Millimeters

edgy widget
verbal rivet
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Bigger Number = Bigger Ego Boost

exotic glacier
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Join me brother.

eager thorn
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No brackets in name looks ass sry

exotic glacier
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Sometimes they’re earned

eager thorn
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Just looks like an off brand warrior brain role

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With the funny lil dented frog man

exotic glacier
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That’s me. Dented. You too brother.

edgy widget
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you wish you were a warriorbrain

rotund ginkgo
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Jack just don't wanna be stupid alone

eager thorn
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How do you get warrior brain

exotic glacier
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O we are all stupid here. I’m just proud enough to admit it.

rotund ginkgo
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Speak for urself

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I'm VERY stupid.

carmine hawk
verbal rivet
eager thorn
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I’m here cos fury gets 2 big weapons

eager thorn
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And thats sick

exotic glacier
rotund ginkgo
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You guys play warrior cuz u like the swords and class fantasy

I play warrior cuz I can't read

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We are not the same

edgy widget
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I honestly can't tell if Enh is supposed to be easy or hard, because it's one of the dumbest rotations I've ever seen

carmine hawk
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Enh shaman makes zap zap its wrong cuz its not zug zug

edgy widget
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but then there are a few talents that are just like...

verbal rivet
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And pressing the 7th Raging Blow is just easier

exotic glacier
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Crushingblow.

edgy widget
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well fury doesn't do that anymore

rotund ginkgo
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Exactly

carmine hawk
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Enh rotation was flat idk zug zug is juicy

rotund ginkgo
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I just like to spin :3

eager thorn
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I miss how warrior was in aberrus

exotic glacier
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Enhance has too many plates to spin..... I want to be the one spinning.

eager thorn
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I enjoyed 300apm spam

rotund ginkgo
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I miss being fast

edgy widget
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I am the one who spins!

rotund ginkgo
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Archi how far behind is hateful enrage?

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Hasteful

exotic glacier
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fk you plates! I spin.

rotund ginkgo
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Or whatever it's called

restive peak
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It's not on ST

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It's the 1

edgy widget
rotund ginkgo
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No that's the imperial system ur thinking of

edgy widget
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fuuuuuuuuuu

eager thorn
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Ok guys i get it i dont know how to measure

exotic glacier
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welcome brother

rotund ginkgo
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Ok so basically get one of these mudslap

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And ur good to go

verbal rivet
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Gotta pull out the metric abacus

eager thorn
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Could you have not chosen a tape measure gif with anyone but harry styles

edgy widget
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Furious and Powerful Enrage are basically neck and neck in ST
Powerful is generally better in multitarget, since so much of the damage comes from instant burst sources

exotic glacier
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he's very popular where metric is found

rotund ginkgo
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I do 100 kilodamage per meter

verbal rivet
exotic glacier
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^this

exotic glacier
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I die

eager thorn
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Ik what the system is just not what measurements are included :(

rotund ginkgo
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The other options were worse ngl

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That was right next to Harry

rotund ginkgo
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Too many things going on in one gif

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Needs to be simple

eager thorn
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Honestly how did he teach that dog to hold the tape measure

verbal rivet
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The dog is better at measuring then you smh

rotund ginkgo
rotund ginkgo
eager thorn
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Yes i would like to know

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Thats one smart dog

verbal rivet
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Is this the average fury player?

carmine hawk
eager thorn
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You know what

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I think ill pass

exotic glacier
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I need to apologize to @eager thorn I checked with my wife... and she also does not understand metric and imperial

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.... sigh.

eager thorn
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Man

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Its not that i dont understand it

exotic glacier
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no I mean she didnt get that a centimeter was PART of a meter.

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I have some work to do at home 😦

eager thorn
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Yeah i dont have anything respectful to say to that

exotic glacier
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at least you tried.

eager thorn
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Wait till she finds out about millimeters

exotic glacier
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"you came to wrong girl if you want to laugh about that"

edgy widget
exotic glacier
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highfive

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so about those them there talents what we all been talking about.

warm swallow
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yo quick question, is the veteran gear from renown worth buying or not?

carmine hawk
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Isn't it kinda free?

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If it's better than what you have take it

past pivot
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If it''s an upgrade, why not??

swift garden
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slag accruing mask is surely bis pre-season no

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nvm greyed stam

teal pine
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I bought the renown gear. Don’t know what else I’d use the crystals on and you get a lot of them

onyx fox
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is anyone rly good at droptimizers on raidbots? i could use a little insight.

frank dawn
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Ask away young warrior

thorn steeple
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Hey,, why is the Charged claymore reccomended to be crafted with Vers/Mast missives?

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stat prio is haste/mast no?

past pivot
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vers/mastery might be better at a later time

compact knot
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vers always gets better as the expansion progresses

summer quail
thorn steeple
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oh ok..so more like a future-proof option

past pivot
thorn steeple
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okay! gotcha ^^

winter shoal
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You can also sim a gear compare/top gear with different variations of the weapons with different secondaries to see what's best before you craft it

upbeat sentinel
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Anybody got a high tier armorsmith on Alliance-side NA

finite sundial
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that feeling when you finally get the drop from cleft 😄

past pivot
brittle crow
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me when i watch his back while he communes with the machine

finite sundial
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almost full heroic gear, with 547 weps

upbeat sentinel
past pivot
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Asia pacific. SO like all over the world

upbeat sentinel
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i clarified

buoyant salmon
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its not that vers gets better, other stats get worse

upbeat sentinel
buoyant salmon
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well its not that vers prio is higher in a vaccuum

alpine haven
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you should full stack vers

coarse nest
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Crit/mastery zero haste powerful enrage gamer

alpine haven
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If you think about it

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1% vers translates to 1% more damage

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1% mastery translates to what exactly

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checkmate

dense elbow
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1% vers isn't 1% dam if you already got more than 1% versa peepostudy
Now combine versa to boost mast value = biggest dam

warm crag
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@clever belfry

slim coral
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We’re actually one of the better classes for doing the pvp gear socket thing

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Because we don’t lose much from getting verse

next canopy
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Will delves drop m+ gear ex trinkets etc?

slim coral
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No

frank dawn
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No they have their own loot table

clever belfry
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or no

slim coral
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It’ll drop their own loot

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The delve trinkets aren’t bad but they don’t align with our cds

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Lots of 2:30

clever belfry
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baseline dmg = 100%

1% vers -> 101% -> 101/100 = 1.01 -> 1%
1% vers @ 20% vers -> 121% -> 121/120 = 0.833%

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not 1%

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bozo

next canopy
frank dawn
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🤢

clever belfry
next canopy
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I’m straight delver this season baby

warm crag
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also: go play path of exile if you want to know the difference between increased and more !!!!

next canopy
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Hopefully I can get other stuff in vault lo

clever belfry
slim coral
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Verse also gets better with good passive effects

warm crag
clever belfry
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me when

buoyant salmon
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ftfy

slim coral
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Why multiply when addition does trick

clever belfry
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a * b * c * base
vs
(1 + a + b + c) * base

warm crag
clever belfry
buoyant salmon
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yuh i got u

warm crag
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cheers bud

next canopy
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I’m going to go into raid with bis delve gear and parse 99 babay

clever belfry
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bälle

slim coral
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I can’t even convert to the metric table

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Too hard for my brain

buoyant salmon
clever belfry
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okay i cant convert to imperial

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cause its bad

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and imperialistic

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👍

next canopy
slim coral
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Imperial BiS

warm crag
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hate imperialism

clever belfry
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7

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7

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7

warm crag
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!!!!

clever belfry
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7

warm crag
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7

clever belfry
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him

next canopy
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7inches

halcyon tulip
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anyone knows any addon who can hide action bar 1? blizz don't let me hide action bar 1 when in combat

coarse nest
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7 inches before or after?

next canopy
coarse nest
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7 \ 25.4

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Converted

slim coral
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2.54

clever belfry
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me when 2.54

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i hate 2.54

warm crag
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why would you use the left leaning line tho

slim coral
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25.4 would be massive

clever belfry
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(i always use 2.5 when doing shit in my head cause it rounds nicely with 4)

next canopy
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Some lean left some lean right

coarse nest
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Because converting to metric is backwards

warm crag
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can you use / and \ interchangeably?

coarse nest
slim coral
coarse nest
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Isn’t backslash for like file directories

slim coral
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Or -

copper patio
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whats the mechanics of marked for execution in multi target - i notice it goes on a 2nd target from some abilities but that stack still gets removed when i execute my main target

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say a 2nd mob is on 1 stack, and my main target is on 2 stacks

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do i get benefit of just 2 stacks?

clever belfry
coarse nest
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\:C

fickle bluff
naive sky
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Where do I find a trinket tier list?

clever belfry
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C:\ if anything buddy

slim coral
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Wowheas

coarse nest
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I’m totally making shit up

slim coral
warm crag
slim coral
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Head

warm crag
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@clever belfry

clever belfry
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But on Windows based machines forward slash also works

warm crag
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found another wikipedia article

naive sky
clever belfry
slim coral
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It’ll be out

clever belfry
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Windows accepts both forward and backslasb

halcyon tulip
clever belfry
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which is fucking cooked

copper patio
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it goes on secondary targets from some abilities, like ive targetted bottom right entire time and its on top left

warm crag
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can't wait for the wowhead glove tier list

halcyon tulip
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can't find anything in curse forge

slim coral
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I’m surprised EU doesn’t have their own version of windows

clever belfry
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?

warm crag
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are you stupid

copper patio
clever belfry
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What does this even mean

slim coral
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Like their own computer company

clever belfry
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xdd

slim coral
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That’s mainstream

sudden tusk
clever belfry
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Xdddd

sudden tusk
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we need more

coarse nest
clever belfry
warm crag
slim coral
keen kindle
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jesus fuck

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yall are unhinged

clever belfry
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waxers need a grip

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Ill be ahead of all of u in gear in m week

sick viper
clever belfry
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despite not doing any of this shit

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bozos

slim coral
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False I’m getting split fed

warm crag
slim coral
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I’m gonna be hefty

clever belfry
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warr tier is so bad

slim coral
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I’m not taking tier

clever belfry
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if u get it over rogue and aug

warm crag
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are u still at the chinese guild or did u move on to liquid

slim coral
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Just item level

clever belfry
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your guild should shoot itself

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u think im not getting

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any piece if loot i can wear?

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youre dearly wrong

slim coral
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You ain’t getting the silken court drop

lone pecan
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Hello, main paladin, decided to try warrior because it looks sick and I want to spin to win. Is there any beginner guide or rotation I can see online? I can't really seem to find much info or a friendly beginner video. Thanks 🤗

slim coral
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Ain’t happening bad rng

clever belfry
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:)

sudden tusk
warm crag
clever belfry
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bazed all you get is 3 normal pieces into benched

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im sorry

warm crag
slim coral
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Yeah we’ll see who’s item level is higher in the end

sick viper
clever belfry
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bro is talking to the 3 montht #1 ilvl Worldwide

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He does not understand my power

warm crag
lone pecan
coarse nest
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Jeventes guide is decent I watched it and compared Maddox’s info alongside it

slim coral
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3 month?!

clever belfry
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Ya

slim coral
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What tier

clever belfry
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Azshara tier

coarse nest
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Wowhead is also good but you have to read so there’s that

warm crag
lone pecan
fickle bluff
lone pecan
# warm crag ye sure

I will have to read through it then. I don't know what abilities to equipe and the rotation

clever belfry
fickle bluff
olive wraith
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Welcome to the 3 button rotation

warm crag
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(he gained echoing void)

clever belfry
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i paid John Blizzard

coarse nest
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ONSLAUGHT is a joke to you or what

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That’s atleast 4 now

copper patio
olive wraith
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You take os?

coarse nest
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Yer raid build zug filler

buoyant salmon
warm crag
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nyalotha pvp season when you loot a twisted appendage moment

buoyant salmon
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anda what guild r u in i forget

clever belfry
copper patio
clever belfry
coarse nest
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He’s in world 1500 guild

buoyant salmon
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are u still simp spec

clever belfry
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we will be bad

clever belfry
warm crag
clever belfry
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Real

buoyant salmon
clever belfry
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(not real)

warm crag
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spreading misinformation in skyhold

olive wraith
warm crag
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(fitting in)

coarse nest
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Pieces reform!? That’d be sweet

buoyant salmon
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god i love misinformation

clever belfry
buoyant salmon
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andas in method confirmed

clever belfry
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We dont need another echo feeding guild

slim coral
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I wish you all a good raid tier wicked

clever belfry
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id rather shoot myself than do rwf

coarse nest
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Maybe stop feeding top two/three

buoyant salmon
coarse nest
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(Impossible to do I know)

slim coral
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The Druid

buoyant salmon
#

which one

coarse nest
#

Chocobeara

lone pecan
# warm crag ye sure

My main issue is the abilities I need on my action bar, rotation is only partial. I can't really seem to figure that one out

slim coral
warm crag
#

shield based spells are not useful

#

there you go

buoyant salmon
#

maestro

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zuckles

clever belfry
buoyant salmon
#

thats all i know honestly

clever belfry
#

equip shield press SB

buoyant salmon
#

who the fuck plays a druid

clever belfry
#

is massive dr

warm crag
clever belfry
#

Im unaware of this, fortunately

warm crag
#

@oblique trail has the writeup somewherew

#

was really funny

lone pecan
clever belfry
#

but banezi hates us

slim coral
warm crag
#

this is true

clever belfry
#

read the guide

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see what spells it uses

buoyant salmon
#

i dont know whos character that is honestly

clever belfry
#

and make the decisions then

dapper goblet
coarse nest
#

Where’s the /equip shield /cast shield block macro

#

Hmmm

clever belfry
#

(then u add all the ones that stun and shit after)

warm crag
#

you can just go and try some stuff i think asking for binding layouts and exact stuff before you've ever touched the spec is a bit silly

clever belfry
#

13%

#

King shit

#

warrior

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2.5

dapper goblet
#

imagine if it wasnt nerfed

clever belfry
#

KING

warm crag
#

shamans deserve some spotlight ..

coarse nest
#

Who needs tier we’re just good without it

#

That’s king energy

clever belfry
#

not getting all loot kinda L tho

coarse nest
#

BOE prio

slim coral
#

Sucks the raid trinkets are ass

clever belfry
#

i will be supplying the guild with draenei glamours for raid

slim coral
#

I always look forward to cool raid trinkets

warm crag
clever belfry
#

Unaware

coarse nest
#

Unaware

clever belfry
warm crag
buoyant salmon
#

1st and only arms to kill this boss before it locked gladge

warm crag
#

too good

#

this is also pretty king i think (dont ask which one of the 8 splits)

robust basin
#

As it should be

slim coral
#

Idk what other trinket there is outside that one

clever belfry
sullen dove
clever belfry
sullen dove
#

the rat will be done

slim coral
#

It’s a cool trinket but idk most of them are ass

sullen dove
#

nothing can stop this

clever belfry
#

very sus teaser indeed

sullen dove
clever belfry
#

bro he is shit

sullen dove
#

stop.

clever belfry
#

he needs to pump those numbers or he is getting kicked

sullen dove
#

STOP ! !

#

he’s doing his best

warm crag
sullen dove
#

did u just make in last 10 second

clever belfry
sullen dove
#

or real image

warm crag
#

real lol

sullen dove
#

pogga

clever belfry
clever belfry
#

shut up child Poster

sullen dove
#

?

clever belfry
#

bro posted a child

sullen dove
sudden tusk
slim coral
#

Actually she’s 1 million years old

sullen dove
granite prism
#
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silk wharf
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Buffs, ill take it

modest condor
#

damn look at all those warrior changes

warm crag
#

finally

modest condor
#

kinda weird to put such minor tuning changes in a patch 2 months away tho

slim coral
#

2 lines

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Amazing

#

Surely tier set gets fixed

modest condor
#

meanwhile paladin gets another rework?

slim coral
#

That’s what happens when you play a magic based class

sick viper
slim coral
#

Warrior has to be up there for some of the most useless changes ever

ashen socket
#

Maybe there is gonna be more?

modest condor
#

i mean ofcourse there's gonna be more

ashen socket
#

since its ya know

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2 months out

clever belfry
modest condor
#

it's more just that.. why not just see how things go in s1 and decide based on that whether there needs to be tuning before 11.0.5

sullen dove
#

bro can’t fathom the thought of looking at small creature

modest condor
#

this is something they could change right now, or during heroic week

sullen dove
modest condor
#

dont need to wait 2 months for it

slim coral
#

Bro thinks warrior is getting changes in season 1

sullen dove
clever belfry
sick viper
#

kekw

clever belfry
sullen dove
#

i mean she just breakin it down don’t get more simple than that

#

chatting

ashen socket
#

I mean lets be honest, The real important change is this

sick viper
sullen dove
#

Updated how

#

Resembles the actual color

slim coral
#

They deleted the talent

sullen dove
#

Now it’s brown poopy spear

buoyant salmon
#

to be fair the cool specs of monk got fuck all as well

ashen socket
#

No idea lol

clever belfry
#

Post mualani dance instead real

sullen dove
#

Both dances epic

slim coral
sullen dove
#

Other girl gonna be cool too

clever belfry
#

no

sullen dove
#

Illonen or whatever it is

slim coral
#

To get impactful changes

sick viper
#

gacha players belong on a registry

clever belfry
#

her idkes r mid

buoyant salmon
#

havoc brew ww prot fury and arms (the only real specs in the game) got nothing

#

but every other spec did

#

unforch

sullen dove
slim coral
#

Arms dead

clever belfry
#

🎰

sullen dove
#

🎰

#

big 777 fan

warm crag
#

777???

clever belfry
#

7

warm crag
#

789

sullen dove
#

7x3

sick viper
wicked dew
#

This is the most important change tbh

clever belfry
#

Sieben Acht Neun

slim coral
clever belfry
sullen dove
#

But now just all of that is useable on any plate class?

sick viper
#

fate grand order is the only gacha game I can kinda tolerate

sullen dove
sick viper
#

cuz of the Skeleton dude

#

never played it tho

clever belfry
#

Mo, clue about FGO

#

I know practically nothing about any of them outside hoyo games so

restive peak
wicked dew
restive peak
#

There are always classes that trickle changes into the ptr

sick viper
sullen dove
#

what’s bro even talkin about

buoyant salmon
clever belfry
#

idc, im not there for the anime aesthetic

buoyant salmon
#

its just funny though with all that text, none of the specs i care about have anything significant at all

sullen dove
#

It’s funny it took like 3 yrs for weapon banner to be actually viable ander

restive peak
#

I’m pretty sure they’re not gonna buff arcane

#

And leave us here

clever belfry
sullen dove
restive peak
#

So there’s no way that’s everything for the next 3 months

sullen dove
#

kinich drip goes hard

restive peak
#

2 months but whatever

sullen dove
#

grappling all over the place

#

8bit gamer

clever belfry
#

bozo (m*le)

sullen dove
#

Tru we hate m*n

charred estuary
#

Im sure this is posted somewhere but Reap the storm is happening way more than 20% of the time on aoe still right

#

it has to be 20% per hit

slim coral
#

Wish we got a new ability during the beta but oh well

sullen dove
#

ya

compact knot
#

other classes: 4 pages of text
warrior:

#

kek

sullen dove
junior gale
#

it is what it is

compact knot
#

this is fine though

sick viper
#

still no booty warrior spec L game

compact knot
#

all buffs no nerfs

clever belfry
#

its less than all individual hits

#

it would be truely outrageous

slim coral
#

Why would they nerf fury

sullen dove
#

Cuz we op in heroic dungeons

slim coral
#

True

sick viper
#

hate us cuz they anus

sullen dove
#

⁉️

slim coral
#

We’ll look op on ad fights but it’s just because we can build for those fights

sullen dove
#

real tho

sick viper
#

blizz needs to realize arms is just a pvp spec

lean heart
#

the arms change made me laugh keksquad

clever belfry
#

just remove pvp

#

it keeps hampering pve design

restive peak
#

None of these changes are live

sick viper
clever belfry
#

Despite it having separate modifiers and another layer of talents.

restive peak
#

They’re for the 11.0.5 patch in November

sick viper
#

pvp is the worst part of the game tho ong

#

eso has better pvp

edgy widget
rigid stirrup
covert blaze
sullen dove
#

Just means we’re perfect wicked

compact knot
#

^^^^

sullen dove
#

ignore the unusably bad other hero talent we have

compact knot
#

i wonder if there ever is a scenario where mountain thane is better

#

because honestly it probably isnt for leveling because of reap the storms

young swan
#

with no prio targets

sick viper
#

mountain thane will be bis next season copium

rigid stirrup
#

would be a nice switchup

sick viper
#

its definitely the coolest of the warr hero talents

heady saffron
#

holy PTR balance

#

everyone else got 8 paragraphs then you see warrior

wicked dew
#

at least it isn't nerfs

sick viper
#

Shit Spear

robust widget
#

guys when is my time to post that everyone else gets 8 pages and warrior gets 3 lines

heady saffron
#

its your time to shine, josh

#

GOGOGOGO

robust widget
#

no.

heady saffron
#

D:

distant zenith
#

be happy for Archi he does not have to write new guides xd

silk wharf
#

Can we get a leak on the new animation?

restive peak
#

There’s always a class or two on these that look ignored and changes trickle in over the months

edgy widget
sullen dove
edgy widget
#

it would be a 67.232% chance for at least one to trigger

sullen dove
#

Is that not how often it would trigger then? Wasnt rly including it proccing multiple times

restive peak
#

Already trickling in

young swan
#

even further confirmation that shit ability is staying unfortunately

sullen dove
#

It’s chill now no

#

No longer gotta stand in it

young swan
#

i still dont like it

sullen dove
#

Just gotta aim it peplaugh

silk wharf
edgy widget
young swan
#

i never liked the idea of spear

wind token
#

bring back the stomp

restive peak
#

Spear is annoying

desert cloud
#

every class gets a fuking essay
warrior (increase crit by 5%)

warm crag
sullen dove
grand pine
#

In an AOE situation, when rampage is available AND my whirlwind buff is missing... should I A) use rampage and then get my whirlwind buff or B) get my whirlwind buff first which would potentially over-cap rage but then cleaves rampage?

sullen dove
#

that sounds crazy, how could u even find that out

woeful token
#

Yeah for sure

sullen dove
#

sadgers tho if real

restive peak
#

The only way you wouldn’t WW is if it’s a boss and almost dead and the aoe is legit just pad

#

But that’s a very niche situation

young swan
grand pine
#

🫡

young swan
#

cause its still blue

edgy widget
young swan
#

maybe both

sick viper
edgy widget
#

if it could trigger more than once, it would be a 67% chance for at least one proc

#

but it cannot

sick viper
#

still aiming that shit at myself

sullen dove
keen forum
#

this was capped at 20 right? or is this just a tooltip change

warm crag
#

i love condemn talent for spear !!

edgy widget
restive peak
#

Tooltip

edgy widget
sick viper
#

they shouldve kept the red color for execute animation

keen forum
#

it was the ol' i read it when it was 3 lines and didn't see the updated text

junior gale
edgy widget
#

lmao

junior gale
#

read no good

copper patio
#

bloodthirst critdmg% is significantly better than crit% right? due to bloodcraze

wild cradle
#

What do we think about the massive warrior changes on the PTR?

grand pine
#

@restive peak Should I only use raging blow when I am enraged?

upbeat plume
#

man so many hotfixes and patch notes and not a single change to Thane lol

#

I guess theres still hope for the heroic week tuning pass

sullen dove
#

detective but like if it fails on the first, second, third and fourth hit, and then procs on the 5th hit of bt, that chance is the 67% no detective and it not proccing on any of the 5 is the "failed" 33% chance it misses detective

errant bronze
#

should i still be using my macro that casts recklessness and avatar at the same time?

restive peak
sullen dove
#

but if it procs sooner than that on an earlier hit its just in the pool of the 67% side for it to happen

#

math cringus

restive peak
#

Then spam RB til ramp or next BT, which should be ramp if it doesn’t enrage

sullen dove
#

silm save

grand pine
edgy widget
#

new champ spear icon btw

sullen dove
#

poopus spear

modest condor
sullen dove
#

kinda neat tho

sick viper
quartz tulip
#

why is getting shadowed dreamleaf so aids and only from superblooms

sullen dove
sullen dove
#

leggo farming in tww

#

respect the grind

restive peak
#

It will very rarely happen as well

wild cradle
#

Ngl after playing slayer, Mountain Thanes gameplay is pretty mid

restive peak
#

It’s a very rare situation if you’re playing properly that you stay not enraged for more than 2-3 GCDs MAX

quartz tulip
#

its so ass like if i knew it was gunna be this trash doing this leggo i would of just deleted it

wild cradle
#

10/10 theme, 5/10 gameplay

quartz tulip
#

They need to change mountain thane to the theme of the Legy Helm in Tomb Of Sargeras when arms was in the best possible gameplay loop and it felt perfect they have never gotten close again

covert blaze
sullen dove
#

wasnt the leggo helm just like, u get 2 rage for charging

#

or is there a diff helm

trail viper
#

if i keep getting crushing blow procs, do i prio those over bloodbath? to get a higher crit chance?

upbeat plume
#

cb is always prio

#

like even over rampage

#

most of the time

sullen dove
#

you only get 1 crushing blow per rampage, but if u mean rb procs i think ur fine to do so until you get to rampage

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cuz u also want to rampage

#

so like if you dont have reck and are slowly getting rage

#

you can prolly cb > rb and then send the juiced bb and hopefully have ramp up by that time

#

but pmuch just always wanna let loose the cb/bb into ramp

#

and during cds thats all u hit pretty much

#

no beta rb's

lone pecan
#

I copied icey vein build, they told me to use bloodbath but I don't see it. Does it get upgrade/replace by something?

trail viper
#

cause ramp gives 2 buffed cb/bb

#

well 1 each

sullen dove
#

rampage turns bloodthirst into bloodbath if u have reckless abandon talented

lone pecan
#

ahhhhhhhh

#

Well they didn't say that

#

bruh

sullen dove
#

prolly just like the assumption of that talent build including RA

#

which i assume it would

#

but ye

lone pecan
#

it does use ra yeah

wild cradle
lone pecan
#

so like do I cast both? it says the exact same thing lmao

sullen dove
#

yea pmuch

trail viper
#

and above all, always stay enraged right? do you delay rampage procs if enrage buff is still somewhat fresh? or do we get good dmg from rampage

hard widget
#

U cast reck before avatar because of titans torment

sullen dove
#

u can put em in a macro just reck first

#

and itll work together

hard widget
#

Exactly what Swordfish said

sullen dove
#

altho in some cases it might be more prudent to reck before u charge

#

for some extra rage

#

but not sure if that matters

#

only would be in like an opener setting too

jade peak
#

so we are playing without angry management?

sullen dove
#

tbh it almost certainly doesnt considering your opener of "pop cds, roar/spear, rampage, bladestorm

dense elbow
#

Only if you don't play RA and dont play TR

lone pecan
#

Okay I might be slow, it is a fury warrior build but asks me to use bladestorm, which I don't have and it says it is a arms ability??? Am I missing something?

hard widget
lone pecan
sullen dove
#

in fury tree

lone pecan
#

I don't have either

#

But I liteterally copied their talent tree

#

So wtf

sullen dove
#

u are lvl 70 right detective

lone pecan
#

Yes

hard widget
sullen dove
#

well yea weird it didnt copy in but every build should have one of the two

#

but capstone down there

dense elbow
#

Take TR, ignore the haters, enjoy QoL for 0.5% dam loss

wild cradle
hard widget
quartz tulip
#

@sullen dove this helm with the ring Tomb of Sargeras Warrior was giga fuckin perfect rotation

dense elbow
#

Titanic rage not roar

sullen dove
#

holy speed wicked

lone pecan
#

I boosted my warrior to level 70 to have fun and now it is just an headache more than anything lmao. I copy a build and it won't even give me the right things like wtf

hard widget
grand pine
#

To clarify, for single target is it better to always save RB until enraged and use WW to get to rampage OR use RB in order to get to rampage faster?

dense elbow
#

Roar is roar, TR is rage Rampage

#

I want dragob roar back

#

This sucks

sullen dove
#

u are almost never in a position where you drop enrage so its not rly a consideration whether or not u hit rb out of enrage

hard widget
sullen dove
#

but if u are out of enrage top priority is just build enough rage to hit rampage again

#

so yea like you can send some rbs/bts/slams/ww whatever

oblique raft
winter shoal
hard widget
sullen dove
sullen dove
#

thats the hack and slash talent

lone pecan
#

well it is a build

grand pine
#

Yeah I know its rare but it happens, yeh boy is trying to get sweaty and min/max

sullen dove
#

so like u shouldnt ever think about "saving" raging blows

#

cuz they pop up frequently

hard widget
sullen dove
#

short cooldown ontop of self reset/resets from rampage

lone pecan
hard widget
dense elbow
#

Wowhead guide for basics ftw

winter shoal
hard widget
lone pecan
sullen dove
dense elbow
#

Dew it

lone pecan
#

shit is giving me an headache at this point holy f

ionic plaza
#

frenzied or powerful enrage dudes?????

sullen dove
#

powerful if numbers frenzied if u enjoy existence

hard widget
#

Just relax

clever path
#

power is so aids to play with

sullen dove
#

as far as classes go fury is prolly on the simpler side

sullen dove
clever path
#

wait

#

i meant

sullen dove
#

o ok

clever path
#

powerful

sullen dove
#

lol

clever path
#

mb

#

XD

sullen dove
#

ye

winter shoal
lone pecan
#

wowhead says that rotation, does it makes sense with the build you sent me?

ionic plaza
#

ya its slow af without it it seems

lone pecan
#

what is st

sullen dove
#

single target

lone pecan
#

So the build is multi target??

sullen dove
#

a build with roar and odyns fury is typically multitarget

lone pecan
sullen dove
#

while single target usually runs spear and onslaught

sullen dove
#

but both run bladestorm

grand pine
#

this is the root of my confusion

lone pecan
grand pine
#

RB while enraged

#

etc

winter shoal
#

@lone pecan most of fury's aoe comes from these two whirlwind talents on the right hand side allowing your other abilities to cleave, so the aoe and single target rotations aren't TOO different from each other

sullen dove
#

youre pmuch always enraged