#fury

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coarse nest
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Real

craggy river
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True

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Fuck Dornogal

sick jungle
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how hard has everyone gone on crafted gear

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is it worth crafting if we just skip straight to 603 next week

craggy river
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Crafted my weapon, dont feel like it matters that much

austere plaza
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do you guys are upgrading the bis trinkets to 593?

crimson atlas
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i wouldnt waste any epic stones this week

coarse nest
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This week once you cap weathered crests youโ€™ll have enough for about 15 total 590 crafts unless you spent some upgrading

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Itโ€™s fairly easy to do

sick jungle
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might as well make T8 delves next week easier

coarse nest
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So my plan is to use both heroic dungeon* trinkets the three renown epics and then craft every other slot at 590 before normal raid

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Itโ€™s trivial and not necessary but Iโ€™d rather buy the gear then farm heroic dungeons all week

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My time is limited to prep for raid

craggy river
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fair enough

polar fulcrum
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How far dps is single minded fury behind titan's grip?

coarse nest
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6 million %

polar fulcrum
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is it that bad?

dense elbow
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5-10% ish

polar fulcrum
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damn

glad coyote
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over 9000%

polar fulcrum
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so why doesn't blizzard increase SMF talent's damage by 10%?

coarse nest
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Yeah -6 million aura too

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No buddy likes a small stick weapon*

warm crag
dense elbow
polar fulcrum
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holding two 2handers looks goofy and unbalanced

slate light
polar fulcrum
polar fulcrum
coarse nest
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Ther you go

dense elbow
coarse nest
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๐Ÿฅพ

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Small weapon wanter

mossy fox
polar fulcrum
dense elbow
polar fulcrum
fickle bluff
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no

winter shoal
polar fulcrum
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I see

fickle bluff
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smf being any faster or a different playstyle is a myth

radiant plank
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Daily smf talk procced kinda early today

fickle bluff
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you will notice 0 difference while playing

coarse nest
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You get one extra weapon swing every
300 days of /played with SMF

slate light
south kayak
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Can you buy the DF PvP sets with marks?

winter shoal
mossy fox
south kayak
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It does auto attack faster ratge

fiery kayak
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Hold up,can you mog 2h weapons into 1h???

mossy fox
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same animations, same everything, your autoattacks are faster but you literally dont see autoattack animations unless you afk

dense elbow
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Well, SMF do hit faster, with a swing timer of 2.6 vs 3.6, 2.2 for daggers

fiery kayak
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Ok I thought I was being dumb

coarse nest
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bUt ThE tOoL tIp SaYs FaStEr SwInG sPeEd

dense elbow
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I will need a screenshot of that tooltip

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Dont think I ever noticed that part

valid pulsar
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did they remove the /wink animation and other animations for emotes in the game ? Im pretty sure back in the days you character did the actual animation for some emotes like wink and stuff. does anyone know ?

coarse nest
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Yeah wow is safe space now

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Smh

dense elbow
valid pulsar
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that is crazy

dense elbow
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Well, you can just do /e Igneel winks at you. Wink!

south kayak
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Winking isn't gone lol

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I just winked

light tapir
south kayak
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You mean you can't wink at someone?

dense elbow
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You mean on storemount owners in TBC?

valid pulsar
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/wink works but your character does not actually wink in the game like waving hands

dense elbow
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Oh, that was never a thing - as far I can remember

south kayak
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I don't think the character ever did actually wink?

valid pulsar
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maybne i remember it wrong i thought it did that back in the days

dense elbow
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The only emoted emotes where the ones in /emote list, like train, roar, charge, so on

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/train best emote, chuu chuu, chugachuga chuga chug

valid pulsar
dense elbow
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time for a banning

polar fulcrum
dense elbow
valid pulsar
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okay /hi actually has a waving hands animation. i will just use /hi instead of /wink. problem solved

restive granite
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how do you guys get into or form a M+ sweat group? is there like any special discord or anything?

winter shoal
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Add skilled people in your pugs, play with them and their friends

restive granite
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feels like ill have to be a bit more proactive with all the bs augmentation shit going on if i want to get a good season

fickle bluff
dense elbow
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This is the best way: Do M+, network as you do so, at a certain rating you will start to reckognise names - as there aint that many.

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Rule#1: Dont be weird or annoying

valid pulsar
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nah i will do some high level pet battles instead

restive granite
dense elbow
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Very subjective; I am certain some will find it funny or cute no matter the bracket.

coarse nest
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Networking a group of like minded and similar skilled players is the best way to have success

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Pugging very high end keys is doable but way more hit and miss

restive granite
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ill def try it this season

west coral
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Hey guys, one question.
Is the diference between RA and AM big?

coarse nest
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And you donโ€™t need to have the absolute meta comp

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You just need players who are good at their chosen spec/roll

restive granite
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s4 dragonflight scarred me, ive never played a more disgusting season

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it was pure misery

dense elbow
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S4 was dead, as it wasnt really a season

warm crag
dense elbow
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Wink = wave, in german somehow?

warm crag
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winken is wave in german ye

mossy fox
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๐Ÿ˜‰

dense elbow
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๐Ÿ˜‰

warm crag
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yeah wink is that ^ that'd be a hard emote to make

valid pulsar
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oh

dense elbow
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Well, they do have blinking already

hidden vapor
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Does fury have a decent skill cap or is it all just zug zug?

valid pulsar
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alright thank you

dense elbow
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Zug zug

valid pulsar
buoyant pier
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You zug, then zug some more

winter shoal
restive granite
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theres little to no skill expression left in the game imo, 99% of a good parse is optimal cooldown management

hidden sinew
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I Can literally do /em and put whatever foul thing i want on there lol.

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just no animations

winter shoal
hidden sinew
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1 more week... i cannot wait.

coarse nest
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Bunch of Winken in the chat

restive granite
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tomorrow we get M0s right?

winter shoal
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Nope 1 week

native saffron
restive granite
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ah shite

dense elbow
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nein

clever path
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i will be honest. slayer feels wonky when it overlaps another animation makes me feel like my ability didnt go off

restive granite
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this launch has been beans

winter shoal
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Would happen with thane too

clever path
hidden sinew
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i like how they made 4 set brain dead this season its just a natural boost to your rotation

clever path
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i mean they said this tier was gonna be basic af cause they wanted the first seasons focus to be hero talents

summer quail
clever path
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but the tier needs a big buff to be good

hidden sinew
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they probably will who knows.

winter shoal
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I mean everyone's tier is kinda shit but ours is extra shit

restive granite
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im happy its trash that way i wont get tilted when i dont get any piece on my vault

winter shoal
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I think brew's is actually pretty good IIRC

clever path
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i mean this tier is comparable to how bad season 1 df was isnt it?

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cause season 1 df was so horrible

hidden sinew
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df season 1 had annihilator tho

winter shoal
clever path
winter shoal
hidden sinew
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i didnt like how season 1 very much becasuse the sustain just wasnt there yet

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now when i was throwing hella ravengers it was lit

clever path
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i will say season 3 was the best tier imo. changed the playstyle just enough to make it feel new

coarse nest
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Inb4 Anni haters

clever path
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i tend to enjoy when tier changes a few talents

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mixes up the norm

hidden sinew
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ay atleast wowheads guide for us doesnt say MEDIOCRE multitarget anymore

winter shoal
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HOLY it's only 10:30 and we've already had SMF and s3 chatting

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that's gotta be a record

hidden sinew
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everytime id see MEDIOCRE id die a little inside

clever path
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im honestly wondering why they havent made a tier based on onslaught. could be cool to see

split elk
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how much haste is best cap?

hidden sinew
buoyant salmon
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holy moly and haste cap

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bingo card is filling up quickly

clever path
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though i will say in pvp im feeling the pain of mages

hidden sinew
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hit a poor mage for 1.3m yesterday

clever path
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so many ways to just hold you down its not even funny

hidden sinew
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yeah thats why i spec spear for mages.

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i dont like running spear imo it doesnt always connect for me

winter shoal
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All my homies hate spear

clever path
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i dont mind spear now that i dont have to stand in it kek

hidden sinew
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it really depends but dude warlocks are dumb rn

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hard asf to kill

clever path
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gonna be honest they need to nerf some of the health buffs some classes get for pvp

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a caster having 2mil more health than me in full pvp gear is insane

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maybe 1.5 mil but still

hidden sinew
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yeah idk dude i cant 1v1 a warlock rn full burst and they just laugh it off.

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any other class i can hurt.

clever path
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yeah pvp is borked overall atm imo. they need to work on it overall

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its mostly just scaling issues

hidden sinew
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hotfixes and tuning is sure to come.

clever path
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with talents going crazy cause of the higher numbers

hidden sinew
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also that stupid rouge wpvp bug needs to go

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im tired of getting one shotted /cry

clever path
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yeah im hoping to see more tweaking before the real pvp season gets in full swing

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thankfully i think the glad set looks like booty

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but the conq set is nice

hidden sinew
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yeah first season isnt too asthetically pleasing.

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i like raid set. but the weapons are kinda eh.

clever path
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i honestly feel like blizz dropped the ball on making nerubian themed sets for season one for most classes

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like we could have gotten a scarab style set like the hulking nerubians

hidden sinew
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yeah ive got enough mountain gear give me NERUBIAN gear. i want spiders crawling outta my shoulderplates or sum

clever path
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what would be even cooler would be a plate set of earthen gear thats covered in spider webs and nests with little spiders running over it

weak tulip
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can we transmog 1h swords ?

hidden sinew
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that would be actually really dope.

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with like power infused webbing

warm crag
weak tulip
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ok

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so like mountain is using 1h swords ?

warm crag
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no?

clever path
hidden sinew
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yep i believe it. but who know we could get a second chance usually better looking gear comes in later patches

thorny shoal
hidden sinew
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even legion s1 i was kinda underimpressed but then it was all amazing.

clever path
hidden sinew
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me personally i woulda been alright if they woulda gave me a big ass spider two hand sword.

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no big swords :/

clever path
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at least we will most likely get ethereal tier for season 2

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going off datamines

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maybe i can finally live the dream of playing as an ethereal

hidden sinew
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my dream is to be a murloc

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just mrgrlglglll and happiness

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its quite funny a flash game actually lured me into wow as a kid. it was a flash game about a wow murloc named murk.

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then i found out it was apart of a much much bigger game. been hooked ever sense

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since**

clever path
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ever since i started the game in bc ive wanted to be able to play ethereal. just always thought the idea of energy held together by magic cloth wraps was cool af

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murlocs are also cool though. also nagas are cool af

feral ivy
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anyone know if there is a shadowmeld reminder WA?

hidden sinew
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yeah a fish person playable race would be cool

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jinyu

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is probably what wed get tho

warm crag
feral ivy
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it will tell u to *

warm crag
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might just not be any public ones yet since the season hasnt started

polar fulcrum
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What will happen if SMF is buffed to do much more damage than Titan's grip?

warm crag
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then we'll play smf

chrome plover
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that's crazy

silent burrow
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We would 100% just play smf in that scenario lol

versed frost
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smf? I could finally transmog maces without them looking like crap on my back

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one can dream

silent burrow
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I couldn't possibly care less about the transmog shit

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I just wanna do dam

warm crag
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me when i actively wish for my gearing process to become 100% worse

tiny flax
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So, has anyone else noticed a delay in damage numbers when playing fury?

versed frost
empty mirage
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i need my haste back i feels so slow

polar fulcrum
polar fulcrum
orchid dagger
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Ez

versed frost
sick jungle
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maybe I should just craft myself some r5 1h swords until T8 delves open next week

summer quail
sick jungle
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how behind is smf

orchid dagger
sick jungle
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not bad not bad

orchid dagger
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It's not as bad as clicking Thane, but still trash

empty mirage
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smf is vile

summer quail
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more than 5% in aoe

sick jungle
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would save me some gold since i can just craft my weapons too ๐Ÿค”

polar fulcrum
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Why does blizzard put in so much thought and effort into this talent, but it always underperforms?

summer quail
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to appeal to players like you. they do not want it to be as good

orchid dagger
polar fulcrum
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now, I could always xmog the 2h to a smaller one, but those are far and few

summer quail
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so it exists as a compromise

polar fulcrum
orchid dagger
polar fulcrum
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why does titan's grip need to be better than SMF?

versed frost
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just let us transmog 1 handers on two handers, it doesnt even need to change anything speed wise. just models

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i mean that cant be that hard :|

polar fulcrum
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I understand dual wielding 2handers is what makes fury unique

orchid dagger
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FDK also doesn't have this problem

polar fulcrum
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imagine if they let frost dk dual wield 2 handers

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warriors would cry

charred panther
sick jungle
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oh wtf smf is a talent

restive granite
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was it in WoD that smf gave extra execute damage? or am i going senile

charred panther
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Zug zug logic says more is better

orchid dagger
sick jungle
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so what do I remove if I wanna do smf

orchid dagger
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No weapon swapping for SMF buff

sick jungle
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vicious contempt?

orchid dagger
sick jungle
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๐Ÿ˜ข

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i just wanted to feel cool crafting myself some weapons lmao

orchid dagger
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Welcome to SMF

sick jungle
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so garbo

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fuck that then

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i wonder if crafting is going to go up next week when T8 delves release or down

polar fulcrum
sick jungle
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cause I know for me I'm going to use all my keys and then spot fill with crafts before raid

polar fulcrum
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That's why lumber jacks use a single 2h when cutting down trees, they do more damage than dual wielding two 2hs

silent burrow
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Is that why lol

polar fulcrum
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yep, all lumber jacks are arms warriors

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cause they know the truth

silent burrow
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Why don't they use 2 hatchets

eternal sundial
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Chainsaw

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Vrrr

versed frost
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2h chainsword

polar fulcrum
sick jungle
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who remembers the first day titan's grip was released

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gods it was so hit or miss back then

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literally

thorny zinc
sick jungle
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if they make 1h moggable on 2hs then I might actually go through the effort for thunderfury

eternal sundial
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Better start now

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Tf is a bitch

thorny zinc
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yeah it takes a while

sick jungle
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i can't even bring myself to farm ashes

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i'll never get tf tbh

eternal sundial
thorny zinc
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I found 7 left bindings before I ever got the right one

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I got one binding in vanilla

eternal sundial
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You should farm zaqul shoulders

sick jungle
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tbf to me though, I'm at 300+ kills on ashes

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I've given up

thorny zinc
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That was Midnight for me

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I had 7 characters logged out at Karazhan

sick jungle
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nothing pisses me off more than getting dazed for like 20 seconds during the KT fight

thorny zinc
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My Saturday morning was basically breakfast -> shower -> Kara farm

sick jungle
runic violet
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Think I'm converting back to fury this season. Arms feel too clunky.

winter shoal
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Yo link the mog HOLY

eternal sundial
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Change ur mog

edgy widget
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two types of people...

runic violet
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It's a set

versed frost
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lol

sick jungle
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i also learned the hard way that if you log your character out inside the raid, when reet week hits you get ported to org and not right outside the raid

edgy widget
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I think that's one of the 12 month tading post sets

eternal sundial
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Put ur HS near

runic violet
polar fulcrum
sick jungle
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yeah I had some dudes in area52

versed frost
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heh the tooltip says its the best option

sick jungle
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maybe I'll go back once I'm bored of playing alts

chrome plover
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bro got that titan's grip purpleface

polar fulcrum
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Guys, one question, why does Rampage always activate Enrage? I can't find the talent or passive ability that says it?

gaunt moat
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I wanna play that 15% haste talent instead of the 15% dmg one in mm+ sadge deadge

polar fulcrum
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AHH got it

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thx

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Another question

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Is this 8 seconds added if I use the toher ability?

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So 16 seconds from Recklessness, + 8 from this talent if I cast Avatar aloing with it?

eternal sundial
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Ye

polar fulcrum
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So 28 seconds avatar, and 24 seconds of Recklessness, if used together?

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cool

eternal sundial
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Even if you use one after the other it extends

sick jungle
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nothing beats macro'ing avatar + reck + roar

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probably not the best thing to do but I'm lazy

eternal sundial
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It's not good to do

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Cuz you cant use unenraged reck like that

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Or reck charge

sick jungle
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but it goes enraged because of odyns

eternal sundial
sick jungle
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oh i haven't even tried ST yet

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since we've only done dungeons

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I'll try out ST on raid night yep

eternal sundial
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Horrible idea lmao

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Abuse a dummy get comfy

silver jasper
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S1, Q, E, R, F... No macro for all that but that is how it goes down.

sick jungle
sick jungle
silver jasper
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I don't let it rip every pack. lol

rotund ginkgo
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Hi guys :3

silver jasper
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oh, hi

eternal sundial
sick jungle
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you should try it

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every. pack.

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i hold nothing

rotund ginkgo
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Hi philiam

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Today we order some poke bowls

smoky vale
sick jungle
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unless it's M+ and I have a reason to hold

rotund ginkgo
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Might do a classic gym and stream

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Hit some leggies

exotic glacier
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lets go! leggies for the Leggos!

polar fulcrum
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So am I following the priority right? It seems like this is the core of the rotation that I'm always doing:

silver jasper
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That is pretty much it.

polar fulcrum
silver jasper
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yes.

mossy fox
rotund ginkgo
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Hiii babe

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:3

polar fulcrum
narrow narwhal
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Can I get my own role and color

eternal sundial
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Stream

polar fulcrum
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Can someone tell me when do I ever get to #7 and beyond in the rotation? It seems like the priority is always up from #1 to #6?

smoky vale
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๐Ÿ˜ฆ i got ignored by ragish

winter shoal
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Which is relatively rare

polar fulcrum
narrow narwhal
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Ok, I'll stream Warhammer 3 in here

winter shoal
polar fulcrum
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ok

rotund ginkgo
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U didn't

rotund ginkgo
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I appreciated u dropping by yday stream

sick jungle
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I've gotten to 7 down in the rotation before

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i've tried just skipping #6 and it feels worse

rotund ginkgo
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Can someone explain that prio

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I'm so confused

eternal sundial
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Sims better

rotund ginkgo
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I just do rampage>cb>bb>rampage

eternal sundial
rotund ginkgo
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Is that wrong lmao?

polar fulcrum
winter shoal
rotund ginkgo
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Ait

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News to me

sick jungle
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yeah better to dump rage

rotund ginkgo
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that's why tmy did more dam than me

clever path
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Hello, I would like to ask which site is worth using when it comes to build furrry, Icy veins or wowhead because the builds are different from each other

eternal sundial
winter shoal
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real

clever path
lean wasp
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Unless the target is almost dead but again that won't make a huge diff what you press

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We are going mountain or slayer btw ?

winter shoal
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Slayer

crimson bay
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So is there a difference between the crafted 2 hand sword and the axes that I'm not seeing? See the guide show the sword as bis so just curious

winter shoal
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No

lean wasp
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Ok so where does the execute fit in the rotation cuz am lost

winter shoal
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Just cosmetic

narrow tide
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what is meant by "Avatar to trigger Odyns Fury" ?

silver jasper
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I love Mountain Thane for dungeons but Slayer for Single Target.

eternal sundial
charred panther
narrow tide
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ah

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okay thanks

charred panther
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So avatar and wait for of bleed to drop

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And of

steel shadow
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Waaaaait, m0s are gonna reset daily?

runic violet
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yea

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M0 SPAM IS ON

delicate yacht
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Yes 56 dungeons per week. Mandatory or ur kicked from the guild

polar fulcrum
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I've mained arms since Draenor, and fury feels so strange to me... it's backwards, abilities generate rage instead of consume

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goes against my instinct

hidden sinew
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wait what m0's are out????

fickle bluff
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in NA yeah they just had their weekly reset

hidden sinew
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hell yeah im na

quasi marsh
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So, this week is basically a wash? Nothing new? Lol

mossy fox
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huh

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theres no m0 this week is there

sick jungle
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nope

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next week

exotic glacier
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they meant next week

quasi marsh
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Thereโ€™s nothing this week

summer quail
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there is not. another boring ass week

sick jungle
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this week is the same as last week

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heroics!

quasi marsh
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Thatโ€™s insane to me

lone zinc
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oh wow. i thought it was this week. ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

mossy fox
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wtf greg

sick jungle
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play some alts

lone zinc
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im actually sad

exotic glacier
sick jungle
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warband goated

junior gale
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its been like this every wow expac for years

lone zinc
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wish i could play alts. barely got time for my main. ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

junior gale
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2 weeks of chill lvling

quasi marsh
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I have all my toons to 80 and all 580+, guess Iโ€™ll just binge watch supernatural till next week xD

sick jungle
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tbh I was ready for m0 during early access so

exotic glacier
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imagine paying extra to be upset about a reasonable ramp time.

summer quail
sick jungle
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these 2 weeks are all about professions to me

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probably should've done profs during EA for the crazy gold

quasi marsh
exotic glacier
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solution, dont pay to be early

quasi marsh
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Solution, even without paying to be earlyโ€ฆstill a week long drought.

plain karma
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It's not a "week long drought" you just rushed through everything available knowing the timeline ahead of time

steel shadow
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Really started a war in here huh

exotic glacier
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nah, this is warrior discord, we're always arguing

quasi marsh
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Uhm, how fast you do or donโ€™t do content doesnโ€™t negate we get nothing the 2nd week of an xpac XD

hidden sinew
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man i got trolled hard

mossy fox
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m+ withdrawal is a real condition

plain karma
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Yes and that was a good and correct decision for the overwhelming majority of the playerbase

runic violet
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I'm shaking

quasi marsh
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Statistics to back that up? Or just yapping?

exotic glacier
quasi marsh
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Heroics = 0 dope

sick jungle
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this feels like the whole mop remix fight all over again

hidden sinew
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heroics are cake

lone zinc
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i love you all.

quasi marsh
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โค๏ธ

plain karma
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a large % of the playerbase isn't even 80, but sure ask for statistics about people being out of content

exotic glacier
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0 dope heroics? RIP. those poor addicts

junior gale
hidden sinew
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how is a large % still not 80

quasi marsh
plain karma
#

because they don't play the game like you

sick jungle
#

they're reading quest dialogue

hidden sinew
#

it took me 6 hours of gameplay....

#

its not that hard..

quasi marsh
#

DcS youโ€™re just yapping lol

exotic glacier
#

anyone in here is already better than MOST people in the game.... solely because you sought out a place to learn about your class... even if you are just trolling.

plain karma
#

I mean you don't understand how casual players play

#

casual players are going to take 10+ hours easily to get to 80 and al ot of them are playing 30 mins an ight

quasi marsh
#

Dude, you just canโ€™t stop talking out your butt can you?

plain karma
#

and not everyday

sick jungle
#

this is fun

plain karma
#

you're right 99% of the playerbase is running M0s every day nmext week

mossy fox
#

im insanely casual and i already have nothing to do

plain karma
#

you're a genius

quasi marsh
#

Youโ€™re talking a lot but showing no proof of what youโ€™re sayingโ€ฆ

hidden sinew
#

who spends 15 dollars a month and 60 dollar ecpacks just to play 30 mins a day

plain karma
#

The majority of hte playerbase

#

most people don't ven run normal raids

exotic glacier
#

did you see that your trolling log out DID cause a video?

sick jungle
#

really does remind me of the mop remix fight

quasi marsh
#

This dude is trolling lol

delicate yacht
#

I am a casual player , dad of 2 , work full time . I got to 80 the first night just questing and doing delves, ilvl 575. Play a few hours a night . There is nothing to do

deep dagger
#

im using this week to pick up spider chicks in azj-khajet

plain karma
#

You played 6 hours in 1 night. you are by definition not casual

hidden sinew
#

i never said 1 night

exotic glacier
sick jungle
#

nah sorry bro, that ain't casual LMAO

#

your kids must be lvl 18 and on their own

quasi marsh
#

Yeah, because people donโ€™t have time off, time to their hobbies, etc lol

hidden sinew
#

took me 3 days.

#

and i thought that was casual

#

lol

delicate yacht
#

I am the definition of casual lmao . How can I play any less than I already do

quasi marsh
#

Do you have kids Volvo?

sick jungle
#

but you said the first night

#

no bro I'm married but I am def not casual

hidden sinew
#

and thats with reading the lore too

quasi marsh
#

Then how would you know the care they need and at what age?

#

A lot of assumptions being made here lmao

coarse nest
#

I raid CE and M+ .1% with 2-3 hours a day
What are we getting at with this?

exotic glacier
#

Dafflyction popped CDs rn, that's the only expalanation of why he's going SO hard.

sick jungle
#

the same way you're assuming his kids are young and need 24/7 attention

quasi marsh
#

This isnโ€™t even me going hard, Iโ€™m dumbing it down xD

#

I didnโ€™t assume anything lol

delicate yacht
#

Kids are 1 and 4

exotic glacier
#

didnt even read my name SMH

delicate yacht
#

Took about 6 hours to 80

burnt kelp
coarse nest
#

You being in this discord makes you non casual

#

You might suck at the game

quasi marsh
#

False

coarse nest
#

But youโ€™re not โ€œcasualโ€

exotic glacier
#

thats what I said earlier

quasi marsh
#

Totally and utterly not true lol

delicate yacht
#

I can be in here and still be a moderate casual haha

plain karma
#

it's so obviously true that its nonsense to even pretend otherwise

sick jungle
quasi marsh
#

Iโ€™m talking to you arenโ€™t I?

hidden vapor
#

No m0 this week is insane

sick jungle
#

๐Ÿ˜ญ

quasi marsh
#

XD

#

You walked into that, donโ€™t lie lol

plain karma
#

casual palyers don't even know class discords exist

exotic glacier
#

omg, quick use a Luffa to stop the bleeding

quasi marsh
#

False

sick jungle
#

kekw dw i ain't hurt lmao

#

i click my spells

hidden sinew
#

well m+ is prolly gonna feel weird too. since they changed it a little bit

sick jungle
#

and my favourite movement button is S

sullen dove
#

Casual players r pet battle world quest enjoyers

hidden sinew
#

thing prolly arent gonna die as fast as you think they are

sullen dove
#

They see one of those pop up on the map and go LETSFUCKKNGGOOOOOOO

quasi marsh
#

Sweet, Iโ€™m casual lol

sullen dove
quasi marsh
#

Pokemon and vibe quests, love it

hidden sinew
#

i find delves to be perfect for casuals

sick jungle
#

lmao pokemon

modest condor
#

any mole people in the chat?

sick jungle
#

๐Ÿคฎ

coarse nest
#

๐Ÿ‘‹

lone zinc
#

i cant do pet battles man, i just cant do it. I CANT I SAY

hidden sinew
#

you get ur ass kicked too much?

lone zinc
#

yes

hidden sinew
#

same

lone zinc
coarse nest
#

Id load up a Nintendo to play pokemon

quasi marsh
#

Regardless of it all, a blank week at the beginning of an xpac is idiotic to me, but oh well, canโ€™t fix it lol

coarse nest
#

Better experience

lone zinc
sick jungle
#

i can't remember when, but I swear there was a time where they really tried to push pet battles and I was 'forced' to do some

lone zinc
#

now those are real battles xan

sick jungle
#

wanted to kms

hidden sinew
#

im about to go buy a ps2 and make a retro game stand

quasi marsh
#

Was that the garrison expansion?

#

I remember needing to do pet battles for that

coarse nest
#

Shoot wasnโ€™t pet battles pushed in like Cata? Idr honestly

sick jungle
#

it was many xpacs ago

#

i know for sure it felt like it was needed to pet battle

hidden sinew
#

isnt it crazy ps2 was relevent when wow was

sick jungle
#

i don't see a reason i would ever do it lol so you might be right daffy

quasi marsh
#

Cuz youโ€™d get those max level pet stones and then sell the pets and make bank.

hidden sinew
#

we are all playing a ps2 game on pc

coarse nest
#

Nah bro my 25 stone decked out EGBob

burnt kelp
#

I think it was in legion or bfa where pet battles gave ap

#

But not sure

quasi marsh
#

You could get 1 25 boost per toon, and garrison gold farming was huge lol

burnt kelp
#

Damn legion was so long ago

quasi marsh
#

Oprah rich expansion

coarse nest
#

Legion being 10+ years ago

#

Wild

fickle bluff
#

legion was 8 years ago

coarse nest
#

Feels older ngl

sick jungle
#

i asked earlier if anyone remembered the day titan's grip came out and no one replied

#

maybe I'm just a boomer

burnt kelp
#

Cant even make fun of legion babies anymore

coarse nest
#

legion.arms_revert=1

#

Ope fury chat

burnt kelp
#

Legion classic soon

#

Mop next year

#

Then we skip wod

#

Ez

sterile stratus
quasi marsh
#

I hated and loved Legion. Legendaries we're awesome...but the grind for them...disgusting

coarse nest
#

Acquisition sucked

#

But they were fun

burnt kelp
#

Legion legendaries are the reason I fucking hated legion for a long time

#

Ahhh mannoroth bracers

coarse nest
#

I was a fan of artifact weapons also

burnt kelp
#

Prydaz

#

The boots that made you run faster

quasi marsh
#

I liked artifact weapons a lot. Anything that makes it easier to gear xD

burnt kelp
#

Being locked at 4 legs without blizzard telling you

#

Bad luck protection being bugged and the longer you played the less chance you had to drop 1

coarse nest
#

Iโ€™d happily welcome back artifact weapon

burnt kelp
#

No thank you

coarse nest
#

Just a capped weekly AP grind with catch up

#

And expedited alt

burnt kelp
#

I dont think ap does Anything aside from making me not want to play the game

sick jungle
#

and it was so underwhelming lmao

#

i was so damn excited for it, who tf doesn't wanna wear 2 huge 2hs

coarse nest
#

It was only disliked because people could no life spam the hell out of it witch caused limited play time players to be perm โ€œbehindโ€

sick jungle
#

the penalty on it was so damn high all I saw was miss/dodge/parry

summer quail
burnt kelp
#

I mean yeah thats the worst of why ap sucks

fickle bluff
#

but you remember it launching dont you

burnt kelp
#

But what does it bring to the game

fickle bluff
#

๐Ÿ‘ด

summer quail
restive granite
#

Bring back trinkets that actually did a damn shit instead of the clown fiesta we got now. Hellfire citadel trinkets were so spicy (Prophecy of Fear, Mirror of the Blademaster, Soul Capacitator, Empty Drinking Horn, Discordant Chorus), best raid ever. Good trinkets are the best version of borrowed power imo.

coarse nest
#

I want a permanent trinket that has a 1:30CD that increases the damage of all abilities by 30%

#

Ever green trinket

open crag
#

hi guys quick nab question: are the 577 darkmoon decks any good for the first week until you get something else or are hc bis trinkets better?

coarse nest
#

Easy ilvl for cheap

#

But youโ€™d rather farm the trinkets listed in the faq

open crag
#

alright

#

thanks

#

๐Ÿ™‚

restive granite
#

imagine a strength version of soul capacitator, with our burst we could time some spicy damage windows

#

omgg that would be so cool

sterile stratus
#

I member the lei Shen trink they gave you 100 percent crit for 4 secs.

Snapshotting dot classes ate good from that

coarse nest
#

Font of power return when

#

/pull 20

restive granite
#

there was a video of a naked demo lock that sniped doom and tripled the damage of everyone else with that

winter shoal
sterile stratus
#

In hindsight, balance in mop was nuts.

Prot paladins being gods. Fire mages being gods at the start. Vengeance scaling being fucked. Trinks like that. The entire existence of warlocks. Monks getting reworked every reset

summer quail
restive granite
#

oh shit it was affliction

quasi marsh
#

I haven't heard sparkuggz in a while

sterile stratus
#

Iirc monks needed an entire rework to their mastery because of that one trink that brought all your secondaries up to your highest one. They'd just wait for procs and then send tiger eye brew and do a trillion dps

coarse nest
#

Snutz is the cool warlock name I remember

quasi marsh
#

Snutz was PvP though, spark was PvP

#

PvE*

coarse nest
#

Tru yeah

viral jasper
#

Who was one shotting 40 people in orgrimmar as lock in bfa

rugged hawk
#

I'm I supposed to prioritise consuming CB and BB while enraged over not overcapping rage?

restive granite
#

see how everyone remembers the tiers with good and interesting loot

#

now shit is boring af

viral jasper
#

Nah i member good raid

buoyant salmon
#

ill never forget abberus

viral jasper
#

Hfc was good raid though

buoyant salmon
#

such a polarizing raid

#

have super super good bosses with arguably the worst boss ever

#

good times

coarse nest
#

Iโ€™ll never forget waiting until week 14 of amirdrassil to loot my axe

stable frost
cosmic garden
#

Is it just me that is doing more ST dps on the dummies with the Mythic + spec than the Raid one?!

rugged hawk
winter shoal
#

And dummies won't really be in execute range

#

Also spear vs roar but that difference isn't very big

#

Also make sure you aren't accidentally cleaving your OF or roar onto a second dummy

cosmic garden
coarse nest
#

Going back to spear and onslaught

winter shoal
fickle bluff
#

chatting just a little misinformation

coarse nest
#

Sit on target dummy for an hour or two

#

Youโ€™ll force muscle memory

winter shoal
coarse nest
#

Practice makes perfect

#

Crazy concept I know

coarse nest
#

Rank 1 parse definitely has no cheesing involved

#

Only target dummy practice

winter shoal
#

My king gajeel would never

sterile stratus
#

Def not getting an extended execute phase artificially

charred cedar
#

Anyone else having different trinkets ranked higher in sims than our bis list?

fickle bluff
#

shit ilvl means damage trinkets are better

sterile stratus
charred cedar
#

ah good points

delicate yacht
#

Does culling cyclone work as intended ? Tested it several times on cleave dummies and it did almost equal to or randomly sometimes less total blade storm damage than just having brutal finish

sterile stratus
#

Like how tanks value flat DMG trinks a lot because they don't get as much value from steroids

summer quail
#

so it's big in aoe

fickle bluff
#

it does as it says but its worded confusingly

#

lets say BS does 100 damage

#

in ST thats 100+20

#

but on 5 targets its 100*5+20

delicate yacht
#

So it's basically main target only , it's worded like it effects each hit across all targets

fickle bluff
#

yeah, brutal finish is better for aoe

delicate yacht
#

Roger

woeful cypress
#

am i dumb or did they nerf BS from uncapped to less dmg after 8 targets?

fickle bluff
#

never uncapped as far as im aware

#

maybe it was only added to the tooltip recently

woeful cypress
#

most likely, was talking to a friend about war yesterday and showed him the tooltips

#

today its less dmg beyond 8 targets

summer quail
#

only roar was uncapped for us before, not anymore tho. if you want to be pedantic shockwave is uncapped

sterile stratus
#

Mah shockwave parse

fickle bluff
#

real
cant believe they removed sonic boom

#

but i do not miss people asking if there was a sonic boom build for dps in s1

fleet haven
#

Please dont' yell at me if this has been talked about, but is the two handed sword still the first thingi should craft?

coarse nest
#

Yes but not with a spark

eager thorn
#

what stats should i put on all my crafted gear, just mastery + haste?

fleet haven
#

charged claymore?

silent burrow
#

That would mean we can craft it next week innit

willow delta
#

how well does hekili take into account the nuance of fury rotation?
am I trolling myself by using it?

modest condor
#

hekili uses the simcraft apl

#

so it's as good as the apl

willow delta
#

so is that to say, it is phenomenal?

junior gale
#

Hekili is training wheels

past pivot
olive wraith
#

โ€œNuance of furyโ€

molten wing
#

this is you after dropping hekili

coarse nest
#

Well, you craft it as high of item level as you can anyway

sick jungle
#

can't wait to be able to make my own charged claymore

#

oh baby

#

ascension embellishment still BIS right?

frank dawn
#

according the faq, yes, by about a half percent

summer quail
frank dawn
#

^

broken salmon
#

whats the talent meta rn for aoe??

frank dawn
#

I'm also personally kind of leaning toward Symbiosis. Seems a lot easier to get value from in M+ for the minor loss in raids

cosmic garden
# modest condor hekili uses the simcraft apl

Im new to fury after having to DPS more for my new guild. I quickly tried Hekili but wasnt a massive fan. It never seemed to suggest execute whereas the prio guid eon wowhead says its fairly high prio to ensure the buff stays up?

coarse nest
#

Waiting for heroic week tuning is definitely a great option

restive granite
#

maxroll

chrome python
#

Why do the wowhead guides not have Sudden Death talented? The discord does. The guide even says to use Execute to keep up Ashen Juggernaut, which is confusing since they can't use Execute until the targets health drops to 20%.

gilded pawn
#

sudden death isnt very good

restive granite
#

im a poe main i cant take maxroll srsly 50% of their builds are straight up bait or a stolen guides

jolly mist
jolly mist
runic violet
#

I don't think that talent is very good

winter shoal
gilded pawn
#

and yeah maxroll had revvez writing it

#

they went all out for wow

jolly mist
#

revvez is literally the GOAT warrior

#

so

#

u can trust those guides

restive granite
#

oh didnt know that, ill check it out

winter shoal
#

Also the maxroll poe guides aren't even that bad

#

They're just made for a newer audience

restive granite
#

yeah i guess you could say that

chrome python
#

I think the way I said that was a bit confusing. The guide is written as if the talent is being used, but it's not. I was so confused I went and found this discord to ask about it.

I'm coming back to the game for TWW.

hardy shuttle
#

Revvez's preseason guide had both the nodes under anger management talented in ST. So I steered clear. Looked like some ai generated shit. Stuck with woehead

chrome python
#

I'm glad to hear it's not a great talent

winter shoal
winter shoal
#

Like 10-20% better

onyx fox
#

boys i bought the mount critclap there goes all my gold

chrome python
hardy shuttle
#

I had 2p2p. And no shot you ran 6% chance for recklessness

winter shoal
#

No with AM you ran DoI if I remember correctly

hardy shuttle
#

His guide had both

#

That's why I avoided maxroll

winter shoal
#

Because WnF was bugged

#

Me when I don't apply any context that is present in the text of the guide

runic violet
#

I love AM build... but I think reck abandon is stronger

winter shoal
#

I missed most of the tea about the maxroll guides being chatgpt but like you can't really chatgpt a talent tree

vague fern
#

There was a massive fuss about maxroll and echos builds, most of their builds were not actually done by them, pretty sure they were just copy and pasted from other sources

winter shoal
winter shoal
#

Seems like a Revvez original cook to me

smoky plover
#

Didn't find any pinned messages. Is there any 490 item to craft that is better than regular big ilvl slot?

runic violet
#

U still wearing DF gears?

winter shoal
smoky plover
#

590* mb

winter shoal
#

You should be able to craft 590 gear in basically every slot with the crests you get this week, but tbh it won't matter much

lavish breach
#

Is there race sims at all? Wanna see how much I get shafted going belf to earth dwarf

restive granite
#

go regular dwarf

#

looks the best in plate

coarse nest
#

Yes you can sim races or you can check one of the guides

#

I think Maxroll shows race sims

lavish breach
#

Alliance critcake

upbeat sentinel
#

So no Earthen

#

๐Ÿ˜ฆ

lavish breach
#

Ahh was looking at bloodmallet but was nothing there

viral jasper
#

.1% dps boost or huge utility option

winter shoal
#

@smoky plover if you can afford it, it's probably a good idea to craft a 590 weapon and jewelry at least, technically it's better to craft 590 in other slots too bc it saves you crests and the time to farm valorstones, but it'll all get replaced in a week anyways so don't worry too much about it. Definitely farm your skarmorak shard and sacbrood trinkets and upgrade those to 590 with crests though

olive wraith
#

I did 590 wep since thatโ€™s like our biggest boost

#

But itโ€™ll get replaced very early so I donโ€™t think itโ€™s much of a boost tbh

winter shoal
#

Tbh the biggest gain is just saving yourself the time from farming valorstones

#

Weathered crests will be irrelevant starting next week

upbeat sentinel
winter shoal
#

True, hence not worrying too much about it

ornate gust
winter shoal
#

Crafting should also be a little cheaper this week btw since crafters will have more KP to guarantee quality

upbeat sentinel
#

cant be that much cheaper

winter shoal
#

Yeah they were pretty cheap already when I did them end of last week

#

I paid 10k for weapon and 5k for others

eager thorn
#

everyone in trade chat on my server asks like 10k minimum :/

viral jasper
#

Yall got greedy servers i always find people who dont even mention a fee

winter shoal
#

Can make like 75k an hour just from herbing/mining though so that's like 10 mins of farming

#

To save an hour of farming valorstones

eager thorn
viral jasper
#

Ya i was gonna say 30k more like it lol

#

Unless you are consistently gettting rank 3 shit somehow

winter shoal
#

I can post my route in a sec

#

Along with the worthit report

random raptor
#

Would changing to Earthen be good for fury?

upbeat sentinel
upbeat sentinel
exotic glacier
random raptor
#

Would not being able to consume main stat food be a massive dps loss?

random raptor
#

you can still use Whetstone, but no food

viral jasper
random raptor
#

the racial is really nice though

winter shoal
#

@eager thorn @viral jasper this is the route I've been using, 72k gph according to worthit (report is from 90 mins of farming so divide by 1.5 for hourly gather rate)

#

I have shitty r2 tools and not full KP btw

rotund ginkgo
#

:3

sick jungle
#

man gathering is just so boring for me

sick jungle
wanton mirage
#

i could be sitting in my office instead of gathering

coarse nest
#

I havenโ€™t seen a gathering route in ages

#

Wow

viral jasper
winter shoal
winter shoal
sick jungle
#

ah, forgot to mention LA is dead

#

someone picked it up though and it's called lootappraiser reloaded

runic violet
#

I got a shit ton of herb/mine ... to sell when the season starts

#

No more poverty

viral jasper
#

Forget that ill just make a few wow tokens an hour at a real job ๐Ÿ’€

runic violet
#

botting already?

sick jungle
#

it's why I can't do gathering profs

#

I get the gold is good, but it's hard not to just make the comparison when the token exists

dense sedge
#

Quick question are we macroing Reckless Avatar and spear together for our opener for ST?

sick jungle
#

at least other profs can be kinda fun

winter shoal
coarse nest
#

When I play 2-3 hours a day there is no way Iโ€™m spending it gathering

runic violet
#

I say blizzard get rid of these field farming shit... it's going to be dominated by botters within a month

coarse nest
#

Wow token is so much more efficient

#

Perks of being a job haver I guess

runic violet
#

botters from venezuela, indonesia, india, china...

modest condor
#

im against rmt even if it's through official blizzard

viral jasper
coarse nest
#

If wow token didnโ€™t exist yeah Iโ€™d have to farm

#

But since it exist Iโ€™m totally taking advantage

runic violet
#

u gonna have to compete against botters... it's not worth it

random raptor
exotic glacier
#

oof

upbeat sentinel
modest condor
#

im sure someone has done them but not me because i dont care about race sims

random raptor
#

I finished it before they took it down

upbeat sentinel
#

you terrorist

exotic glacier
#

watch his character get deleted for not being a race that's been released yet

random raptor
#

next warchief

coarse nest
#

Yo thatโ€™s sick

#

This guys living in the future

exotic glacier
#

what is their racial armor again?

random raptor
#

I just need to figure out if this race isn't viable for mythic

dense sedge
#

Any race is viable?

coarse nest
#

Itโ€™s behind mechagnome and void elf if thatโ€™s what youโ€™re wondering

random raptor
#

Titan-Wrought Frame - Base armour from equipped items increased by 10%

dark frost
#

Race is not that impactful

random raptor
#

but you can't eat food

#

do I need to race change back

dense sedge
#

enjoy yourrocks dude

dark frost
#

Lmao

exotic glacier
#

dont you eat gems?

random raptor
#

but I look so cool

exotic glacier
#

isnt that what they got instead?

upbeat sentinel
exotic glacier
#

oo oo what is their /joke?

past pivot
#

Youโ€™ll be able to glamour into an earthen and still eat main stat food.

dense sedge
#

Guy's just looking over the ST rotation and it has relentless and avatar to be used at the same timei assumed we still popped reckless charged then popped avatar etc

ornate gust
#

When I consume the 3 stack of Marked of Execution, is it a good idea to send my cds and max my dps in the next 20 seconds ?

eager thorn
winter shoal
#

I get the perfect null stone node this week I think so should help a lot

rotund ginkgo
#

whenever i login to wow

winter shoal
#

Based and true Ragish

rotund ginkgo
#

i used it as a content reel for tattooing

#

chat am i cooked ๐Ÿ’€

unreal onyx
#

it's time to play the gaaaaaaaame

coarse nest
#

โ€œThe gameโ€

#

90s kids in ruin

loud bay
#

Has anyone crafted with Spark of Omens yet?

loud bay
#

yeah i thought holding would be best, just seen some warriors with wrists

unreal onyx
#

we now can add sockets with jc stuff to rings and necks, or am I tripping

#

and neck has 3 still?

sick jungle
#

dumb question, but is it 4 public crafting orders/week or do they recharge slowly

craggy river
#

They recharge slowly

sick jungle
#

ty

craggy river
#

Very slowโ€ฆ

eager thorn
#

does recrafting gear use an extra crest?

sick jungle
#

i was wondering if there's really any negatives to crafting public orders, like should I feel bad if I can't craft their stuff at r5 or something

fickle bluff
craggy river
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@sick jungle if they are serious about their crafted gear they would look for a crafter that can R5 it, but thats my opinion

limpid wharf
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How far behind are we from DK Frost?

Do you think that with the tier we will be a little closer?

past pivot
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No

craggy river
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Doesnt really matter tbh

fickle bluff
eager thorn
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ty

winged iron
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Can anyone explain to me why my fury warrior is laggin hard in dungeons? Dont happen on other chars ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

summer quail
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are you running luxthos?

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i heard some people have lag issues with luxthos

winged iron
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Afenar

craggy river
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Input lag or what exactly are we talking about?

sick jungle
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did afenar stop making his wa

craggy river
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Ye

sick jungle
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or is it under EX afenar now

winged iron
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Feels like a diasshow

craggy river
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EX afenar if u still want them

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Do a WA profiling

sick jungle
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afenar was goated

craggy river
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True

sick jungle
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not a fan of luxthos but maybe i'm just bad

craggy river
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Dont like the layout, but thats personal opinion

summer quail
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i swapped to luxthos after i saw afenars wasn't updated. i just downsized the luxthos one and it's whatever

winter shoal
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Fellas it was like a 50k dps difference for me whether I got a lucky BS cdr to align with my ava/spear vs not

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Am I about to despair about my slayer strike rng all patch

gilded pawn
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i think so my friend

winter shoal
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First it was axe rng and now this

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We never win

coarse nest
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Sprinkle a little rng on for flavor

static rock
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Does anyone know if these trinkets for mythic+ are gonna hold up in higher keys? I feel like a lot of the benefit of skar.'s shard from stonevault won't be too big considering a lot of enemies are going to have a ton of health

winged iron
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Okay confirmed, Afenars WA did brick my game

fickle bluff
winged iron
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What WA pack does ppl here use? any rec?

coarse nest
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I use Naowhs

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There are good free ones out there though

fickle bluff
coarse nest
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Tmy WA bis

sick jungle
coarse nest
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Yeah or give him your prime sub

sick jungle
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like a patreon thing?

craggy river
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Kakhan

coarse nest
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Quazzi does WA suites and his are free

sick jungle
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quazzi pretty cool

open mountain
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I have a question regarding fury execute .. in the wowhead guide execute is all about ashen jugernaut .. on maxroll its about 3 execution marks.. (reckless abandon) whats the real thing? ๐Ÿ˜„

fickle bluff
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those arent apposing points

coarse nest
fickle bluff
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you will build AJ naturally while using execute from marked for execution

sick jungle
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do we even need to track the 3 marks?

fickle bluff
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you dont have to

open mountain
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ahh, ya i missread the thing ty ๐Ÿ˜„

winter shoal
# fickle bluff you dont have to

In single target the 3x MfE and ImmDem are basically the same thing, but MfE is still kind of worth tracking for AoE to get the BS cdr, no?

dense sedge
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Guys for our ST opener for raids is it best to have Recklessness, Avatar and spear all on one macro? I was under the impression we pop recklessness then charge and pop avatar and spear

gilded pawn
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i would track mfe yeah

exotic glacier
dense sedge
earnest python
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anyone else have a bug where they cant use Rampage in ara-kara?

craggy river
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Never heard of that one before