#fury

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young swan
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thane has better survivability options

restive otter
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Hmm. And do you take baldestorm now instead of ravager if you go slayer?

young swan
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yes

restive otter
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I figured

errant vessel
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Ye they haven’t made it interact with Ravager

restive otter
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For some reason some builds still take ravager with slayer and j don’t really get why

modest condor
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are you sure?

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where are you seeing slayer use ravager?

restive otter
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There was a YouTube video and a guide on ice veins that had ravager with slayer

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But I can’t find the ice veins one anymore

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Maybe I’m just crazy

upbeat sentinel
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Just put the one with haste on so it feels better to play

wary tulip
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spin2win baby

mint sphinx
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I don't get it, I got the shard and the egg sack trinkets, yet Raidbots proposes I prioritize getting the city of threads trinket (Larynx something). Why?

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Thought what I was running was BIS by far

edgy widget
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cause that's how stats, specs, and item levels work

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not to mention blizzards many frequent tuning passes

mint sphinx
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I guess..

open prairie
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Am I blind I dont see anything mentioning when I should drop fyralath in offhand

modest condor
open prairie
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A bit earlier than I had expected, but makes sense

buoyant salmon
mint sphinx
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Meh, I'm happy with my damage, going to focus on upgrading gear before season starts rather than chasing BIS lists

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Raidbots only give me sub 1% upgrades available anyway

upbeat sentinel
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There’s nothing to chase rn

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You’re in heroic dungeon gear

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Just chase ilvl

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(Unless a trinket just doesn’t fucking function like the rep one)

fading sky
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Ye legit enjoy game

open prairie
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what rep trinket

upbeat sentinel
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You can’t triggers its effect so it’s just a really fucking bad stat stick

open prairie
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you need rep with the guys

upbeat sentinel
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Ya it’s like renown 8 with them or something

open prairie
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no the individual ones

mint sphinx
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Fury is actually fantastic at the moment, really hope it stays this way. Haven't played warrior since BFA and mage for SL+DF. Fury gameplay is so amazing

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having tons of fun with the exp

upbeat sentinel
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No not the individual ones

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Just the main one

open prairie
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you’re supposed to get one buff stack per proc for each one

onyx fox
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We aren't suppose to have fun

open prairie
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It requires renown 4 with each one

onyx fox
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We are suppose to doom

mint sphinx
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You think the hammer is coming?

upbeat sentinel
open prairie
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you get a stack of the buff when it procs

upbeat sentinel
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I have the trinket. It spawns a cloud you’re supposed to pick up, and the cloud gives mainstat

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But you can’t pick up the cloud

open prairie
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for general vizier and weaver

rotund ginkgo
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diabolical

open prairie
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its supposed to be 3 clouds

rotund ginkgo
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acc diabolical

abstract flower
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with the hero talent reducing baldestorms cd, do you hold it for reck and avatar or just send it? feels bad both ways ngl

open prairie
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one for each threads member

upbeat sentinel
modest condor
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send it

restive peak
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Send it

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CDR is literally useless if not used

open prairie
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i havent bought the trinket yet but the shit says

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you need each member at crony

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to get their buff from proc

upbeat sentinel
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There is no “their buff”

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It’s 1 buff, a mainstat boost

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From picking up the cloud

open prairie
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its 3 stacks

upbeat sentinel
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This says nothing about crony rep

vivid lagoon
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Is this trinket any good ?

restive peak
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Pretty sure that trinket is super meh for us compared to the others

mint sphinx
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Does anyone know if Darkmoon Sigil: Vivacity is only necessary on only one weapon when crafting? Crafting 2x 590 axes and curious if I should use Vivacity on both or if it's wasted

open prairie
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there’s a screenshot of it in ravenholdt last i saw

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guy said he has all 3 members at 4 renown

vivid lagoon
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I have a 584 one from reputation

upbeat sentinel
vivid lagoon
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I got the socket haste and mastery in it

covert blaze
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and my trinket says it secretes 1 pheronomone

open prairie
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yeah

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its one per member you have at crony

upbeat sentinel
covert blaze
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crony is not rank 4

open prairie
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oh

covert blaze
mint sphinx
upbeat sentinel
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I’d imagine it does

mint sphinx
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Awesome

covert blaze
rotund ginkgo
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i got a sub keks

vivid lagoon
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Is it worth it upgrading heroic gear passed 580? Or should I wait until season one starts ?

latent hedge
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rather than waiting for the 4th spark

prisma sigil
neat flax
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how do you buy items on ah nowadays? all I can get is item is not found

latent hedge
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be quicker

vivid lagoon
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I am crafting my own items

neat flax
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i think its bots or someshit

vivid lagoon
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I was able to make some 596

neat flax
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is there some way to buy it quicker?

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maybe some addon?

mint sphinx
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At least for reagents

neat flax
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i just want to buy some gear to enter heroics

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cant buy cheapest ones at all

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always item is not found

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the fuck is this joke

covert blaze
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cause someone else sniped them already

neat flax
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they are always there

clever belfry
neat flax
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but if I try to buy it says its gone

prisma sigil
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they are gone, only gear for 3k+ is available

covert blaze
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yes cause comeone else sniped them already

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buy another one

neat flax
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but if i refresh

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they still there?

mint sphinx
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yeah, it's lagging

prisma sigil
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cause its multiple hours delayed

covert blaze
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the auction house is just failing to not display stuff already bought

rotund jewel
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Those are bugged, just ignore them

clever belfry
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and im unsure anyones run a sim yet to check for this, or if its even poss to directly (its doable by proxy though an Aug sim for sure)

neat flax
mint sphinx
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and any green gear priced at 300-400g will be auto sniped by disenchanters

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so forget even trying picking it up

neat flax
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ok thnx, got it

clever belfry
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imagine buying DE stuff for over 150g

warm path
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thinking of making a fury warrior for my alt, but can't decide on what race huh

rotund ginkgo
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if its an alt

vivid lagoon
rotund ginkgo
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it dont matter

vivid lagoon
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I got this

warm crag
warm path
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that's the problem. i like a lot of the races

mint sphinx
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The damage difference is so minimal it doesn't matter, arguably even not if you are raiding for CE

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Dark iron dwarf ❤️

vivid lagoon
# vivid lagoon

I tried upgrading other trinkets to that lvl and still ask me to use the crest

warm crag
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go vulpera

mint sphinx
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ew

warm path
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i'm not really going by dps. aesthetically i'm kinda leaning towards draenei female just because of how they hold the weapons lol

covert blaze
clever belfry
covert blaze
clever belfry
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14/2

mint sphinx
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I have been looking for a crafter for 1 hour now, why can't I make a public order with minimum quality

warm crag
warm crag
clever belfry
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i am going to bed

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as we speak

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currently brushing dem toothies

vivid lagoon
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I can craft weapons and boots if you need

rotund ginkgo
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imagine ur bis being in darkflame cleft

warm crag
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clean!

rotund ginkgo
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id reroll

mint sphinx
mint sphinx
humble plover
rotund ginkgo
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thats why i said imagine

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such an angsty teen

mint sphinx
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is it the darkness in the dungeon that's getting you angsty

vivid lagoon
rotund ginkgo
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no you're the angsty one

mint sphinx
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ahhh

vivid lagoon
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I have been crafting a lot for other people

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Getting some good gold

mint sphinx
vivid lagoon
mint sphinx
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😦

vivid lagoon
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I crafted a 606 yesterday for someone

covert blaze
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you get the second time by the time you get the free heroic enchanted crest anyway

dense shard
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I havent seen anyone selling 584 renown pants, am I blind or is it from a high renown level?

covert blaze
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helm, shoulders and chest

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from the low ones at least

dense shard
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Gotcha, thats what I thought lol. Ive been struggling to find someone to craft 590 plate legs so I got excited there might have been renown legs I missed

vivid lagoon
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I can craft legs 596

brave orchid
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Neck at renown 11 with hallowfall

vivid lagoon
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I craft myself 596 boots

verbal breach
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do we ww before bladestorm?

covert blaze
covert blaze
sharp current
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u just want to be enraged before bs

verbal breach
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Ohhh

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hm

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tyty

spare steppe
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What ability should you macro a 90s trinket to?

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Wasn’t sure if avatar or bladestorm was better

dense shard
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Avatar and Reck, those are also 90s

sharp current
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im using this #show Avatar
/cast Blood Fury
/cast Recklessness
/cast Avatar
/cast Thunderous Roar

clever belfry
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please dont

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atleast take out that roar

vivid lagoon
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Yeah I was about to say

sharp current
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huh? why

dense shard
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Sometimes you just want Avatar / Reck and not an AOE

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Good to save it for adds in a coming up phase, etc

sharp current
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i have that ready always on every boss

covert blaze
vivid lagoon
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Specially if you use it before by accident

sudden scroll
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You have seperate keybinds and also the macro. Having the macro means you don't have empty time while hitting buttons for instant spells

neat flax
sharp current
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u cant macro two global gcd

clever belfry
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global global cooldown

sharp current
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i wanted to try it but it oesnt work

covert blaze
vivid lagoon
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Odin needs to separe from roar

clever belfry
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Universal cooldown maybaps

vivid lagoon
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It won’t cast both together

viscid remnant
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hello people! I joined with a random account jsut to ask maybe youre also aware:
since 1 week ago bladestorm + unhinged talents would consume whirlwind stacks when bloodthirst would hit from bladestorm but this is not the case anymore... was it "fixed" not to consume (didnt see it mentioned in any fix post) or is it a bug? I really liked whirlwind stacks being consumed while in bladestorm

clever belfry
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it was in a blue

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but yes, unhinged can no longer cleave

valid pulsar
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they changed it now it doesnt consume stacks anymore.

viscid remnant
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ok, thanks

valid pulsar
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it was crazy aoe burst especially with the df s3 set

clever belfry
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tbf the df s3 set was mainly ST burst

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2pc funny only works on MT

valid pulsar
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i really liked the set the 1,5m bloodbath hits felt good 😄

sharp current
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guys which talents are you using atm? frenzied enrage or powerful enrage. i feel like with frenzied it feels much better

clever belfry
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frenzied st
powerful aoe

fluid cedar
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ight boys whose going SMF for the early embellishment

clever belfry
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no one

upbeat sentinel
coarse nest
dense shard
upbeat sentinel
coarse nest
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Make it 3 tards

upbeat sentinel
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Is there a rep that gives cloak or bracers?

fluid cedar
covert blaze
upbeat sentinel
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so my crafting will be

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everything except trinks/helm/shoulder/chest/cloak

vivid lagoon
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Smf warrior fury ewwww

edgy widget
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hallowfall 11 I think also gives a 584 neck

upbeat sentinel
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o ya it does

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the lunchbox thing

edgy widget
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really good rep to pump after the initial renown 6-8 epics

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or you can just craft 590s

vivid lagoon
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If one day I have to play one had weapon on my warrior I’ll go play frost dk

upbeat sentinel
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tinderbox*

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not lunchbox

edgy widget
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you should be able to make ~7 590s this week, and another 3(?) next

edgy widget
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at which point you'll basically be full 590 gear by the time heroic week rolls around

upbeat sentinel
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30 per, we have 285 crests

quasi marsh
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How long can ya'll grind every day? Like, if you had no other responsibilities lol

edgy widget
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depends on whether or not you get all the extra non-seasonal crests

viscid remnant
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mastery or haste main secondary?

upbeat sentinel
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true

edgy widget
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in terms of raw cap, this week is 180, next is +90 = 270, which is 9 total crafted pieces

dense elbow
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Archi you are the most knowledgeable person I know of when it comes to WoW:

So, do you know are the ||STR daggers still available||?
peepo

dense elbow
vivid lagoon
south kayak
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Lmao

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What about agility 2h swords

quasi marsh
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Are the crests that put gear to 590 only good to put them to 590? They'll be useless after?

south kayak
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Yes

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Not if you’re a raider

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They’re for casuals or alts gearing up

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LFR tier crests

quasi marsh
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Okay, so other than saving gold, no reason NOT to get 590 crafted gear lol

south kayak
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Yes

south kayak
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Well, there is a reason

vivid lagoon
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The more I read the chat the more confused I get

south kayak
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Unless you really need it

upbeat sentinel
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well TECHNICALLY

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The crests can take you to 593 on normal gear

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but that costs 60 crests per piece

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instead of 30 per craft for 590

edgy widget
quasi marsh
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So 3 ilvl for 30 crests? lol

covert blaze
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you can craft 590 and then upgrade adventurer 593 to save some

quasi marsh
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Sounds like a bargain

south kayak
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You’ll replace this gear fast so it’s not like getting full 580 from heroics is that different

edgy widget
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but if we're talking in terms of effiency, crafting more 590 is > getting fewer 593s

upbeat sentinel
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3 ilvls wont make a difference

edgy widget
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no, but that wasn't really the question either

upbeat sentinel
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to befair none of this crafted shit will matter at all

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and im wasting my gold

sharp current
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welp meanwhile i got chest to 606 😄

upbeat sentinel
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but im gonna do it

sharp current
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probably overkill

edgy widget
quasi marsh
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I feel like I'm really just gearing to be accepted into raid groups and mythic groups lol

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Because all this gear goes away in 2 weeks or less anyway.

edgy widget
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the only thing all this crafting/etc really matters for is to be able to push delves and M+0 easier on the 10th when heroic week opens (and then ofc, whatever gear you go into N/H with)

upbeat sentinel
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it's not going to be a good time

south kayak
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It’s expensive for something you’ll use 2 weeks

open prairie
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10k a pop is pretty cheap

upbeat sentinel
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is not bad

edgy widget
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yeah the blue gear isn't expensive at all

south kayak
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Not when you have 500k gold

upbeat sentinel
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pick up skinningf

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you'll make a mil a day

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Or start fishing

south kayak
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I mine and herb

upbeat sentinel
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fishing right now is insane gold

south kayak
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Don’t wanna skin

open prairie
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herbing on a non druid

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seems so inefficient

upbeat sentinel
south kayak
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Sky golem

upbeat sentinel
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you get herbing while mounted anyway

wheat estuary
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Is fishing semi afk?

south kayak
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It’s not inefficient

upbeat sentinel
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And the node that gets you that gives insane value on stats to herb

clever path
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anyone have a link to the gearing guide with the degen routes and stuff?

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i cant remember the name.

pallid tangle
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Am I meant to be holding Bladestorm for Avatar as slayer even with the cdr from the hero talent? seems not right in my head but just dummying and comparing to sim and sim holds

upbeat sentinel
south kayak
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Sky golem is literally like druid herbing

upbeat sentinel
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and it makes it pretty braindead

open prairie
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could have sworn druid was still faster

vivid lagoon
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I got over 9M gold lol

wheat estuary
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Know the gp/hour about? H

sharp current
south kayak
wheat estuary
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@upbeat sentinel

upbeat sentinel
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a guildie has made 1.8m off fishing already

south kayak
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Why is it a lot

upbeat sentinel
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the sharks go for A LOT

pallid tangle
upbeat sentinel
south kayak
upbeat sentinel
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Idk I don't fish

south kayak
edgy widget
open prairie
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you can max knowledge already?

south kayak
restive peak
edgy widget
south kayak
south kayak
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Good point

edgy widget
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sky golem ugly af

south kayak
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True

edgy widget
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also botany gives you a ton of stats; herbing while mounted is just the cherry on top

restive peak
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An easy rule of thumb for misaligning CDs is that CDR is literally ZERO value if you’re not using the CDR

sharp current
pallid tangle
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ye sorta what I figured based on other classes too

restive peak
south kayak
quasi marsh
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I hope this Dev Evoker buff coming makes them more viable, dEvoker is my guilty pleasure.

edgy widget
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that's just TWW - you don't get exclusively R3 stuff anymore like in DF

south kayak
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Oh

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Oof

restive peak
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And you should be sending it on CD, barring nuanced situations ie you know you’re going into a boss and the pull will die anyway, or you know an add phase is coming, or avatar will be up within 7-10s

south kayak
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Do fishes have ranks

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Please god no

pallid tangle
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ye this is basically based on pure st build / situation

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the sending bs question that is

open prairie
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is crafting with a stat missive much harder rn

south kayak
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It’s just more expensive at this point

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But It will go down eventually

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Like rank 3 missives are 7k or something

restive peak
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BS is a ST cooldown button, you will send it always unless avatar is within 7-10s then @pallid tangle

pallid tangle
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yessir tyvm

open prairie
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what do stat missive ranks even do

restive peak
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No prob homie

open prairie
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higher craft chance?

pallid tangle
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for the crafter that is

south kayak
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2 is 30 I think

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3 15

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2 is good enough, most people can handle that

vivid lagoon
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Wow and Diablo got almost the same things now

south kayak
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Wdym

upbeat sentinel
vivid lagoon
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This talent system

upbeat sentinel
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the one in mining is your 2nd best in terms of raw stats for mining

vivid lagoon
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And some of the game play

south kayak
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Used up first one

upbeat sentinel
south kayak
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I see

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Fundamentals next then

open prairie
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ngl im surprised someone bought a green pvp crafted recipe for 50k

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when the vendor has it for 7.5k honor

south kayak
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Farm it and sell it

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Xdd

upbeat sentinel
open prairie
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yeah i got it from a war supply crate

south kayak
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Big money

upbeat sentinel
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all the recipes are CRAZY expensive rn

south kayak
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I also had a few recipes on my bags that were going for about 30k

upbeat sentinel
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just sell sell sell

south kayak
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Didn’t notice until now

open prairie
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theres some degens farming comp stomp

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all day rn

south kayak
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Lmao yeah

upbeat sentinel
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ya theyll make millions

open prairie
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no its apparently about

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socket

south kayak
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Honor socket item?

open prairie
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yes

upbeat sentinel
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imagine doing that for sockets

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when we get 6 as pve'ers for free p much

south kayak
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Isn’t that only useable on pvp items

upbeat sentinel
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couldnt be me

open prairie
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yes

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i dont remember how much honor you get from comp stomp though

south kayak
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No clue either

upbeat sentinel
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also 6 of 8 slots being free is craaaaazy

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but ill take it

viscid remnant
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are you people going for mastery or haste primary secondary stats? I tried both and they both feel good, beside mastery with powerful enrage which makes my gcd 10 seconds

south kayak
south kayak
viscid remnant
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you single-minded people

south kayak
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We’re not single minded fury here

viscid remnant
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ik, still haste or mastery?

vivid lagoon
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Yes

sharp current
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mastery haste

south kayak
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Depends on your sims

edgy widget
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we're titan's grippers in here

viscid remnant
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@edgy widget gripping what?

edgy widget
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titans

viscid remnant
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by?

open prairie
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btw does darkmoon card ascension keep stacking as long as you keep getting in combat

edgy widget
south kayak
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Wait I wasn’t told about gripping titans

open prairie
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do you lose the buffs immediately

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upon dropping combat

south kayak
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After 8 seconds iirc

edgy widget
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no, but if it doesn't refresh, they fall off

south kayak
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Worse that cata signet

open prairie
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so as long as you get back in combat within the 8?

south kayak
open prairie
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symbiosis seems to just fall off regardless

edgy widget
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it checks every 8s

south kayak
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Oh

edgy widget
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that's an extremely important distinction

south kayak
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That is gross

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So it could check right as you leave combat?

edgy widget
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every 8s it checks for combat

  • if you're in combat, you get a buff for 15s
  • if you're not in combat, you don't
    That means if you miss even just one check, the next check will happen after the buff has fallen
open prairie
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im kind of liking gb radiance

edgy widget
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radiance has nicer mechanics but its weak af

open prairie
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it procs up to 2.8k stat

edgy widget
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symbiosis is the same thing, except it checks every 10s and the buff lasts 20s, which is still a 1 check grace period

south kayak
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Better off getting 2 heroics trinkets

cyan turtle
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Ara ara trinket ❤️

open prairie
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get arakara

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half the group leaves after first boss

edgy widget
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it's gonna be less about the trinket and more about the embellishment

open prairie
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Yeah i was just curious how the mechanics work

edgy widget
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if you want a darkmoon trinket, right now vivacity is probably best, because it doesn't have a combat check

vital sonnet
edgy widget
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it's just a basic proc

open prairie
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ascension is probably best in raid i imagine

brittle snow
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So im assuming Mountain thane for fury is not that viable?

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or is it any good?

open prairie
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vivacity you can also get multiple procs at once

south kayak
edgy widget
south kayak
brittle snow
open prairie
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mountain thane prot is really fun

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tbh

south kayak
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Prot feels like it plays with heroic strike

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So much apm

open prairie
brittle snow
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Do you just use thunder clap and no whirlwind for MT or do you use both?

sudden lily
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hi guys,
there is any spreadsheet for fury in tww?

valid pulsar
brittle snow
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Ty

stable jetty
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Are sims working for fury slayer? about to start gearing

edgy widget
edgy widget
stable jetty
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but mah secondary stats

sudden lily
warm path
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would a weakaura for enrage procs be useful to pickup you think? or is it not really something i need to actively pay attention to

edgy widget
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you don't really need one for enrage procs but you might want one showing when Enrage is/not active, yeah

upbeat sentinel
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if you use a package

edgy widget
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not everyone uses a WA package, and if they were they probably wouldn't be asking about it

warm path
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i haven't picked one yet.

edgy widget
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Fury generally has ~95-99% enrage uptime, so tracking it isn't overly important, but there are times where Enrage falls or is about to fall and you'll want to use say Rampage a little earlier than you might otherwise

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so yes, keepnig track of when enrage is/not up is generally a good idea

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nothing complicated, a very simple buff check is all you need

warm path
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kk. tyvm 😄 i'll see if i can find a package i like for fury

lost saffron
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@clever belfry Shut up james

edgy widget
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WAs really aren't hard to setup after you spend a few minutes familiarizing yourself with them

lost saffron
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Pick one and adjust it to your liking if you dont wanna do everything from scratch

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if you have never done it

edgy widget
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can do that too, though adjusting some of the more complicated packages can often be as or even more confusing

pallid tangle
lost saffron
#

Yeh depends

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If the packages have alot of custom code it can be very confusing

pallid tangle
#

oh? like my addon?

warm path
#

honestly just need a rage bar and something to help me keep track of major cds/enrage

#

which i guess i can jsut do luxthos

lost saffron
#

Just get any weakaura package from wago then

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they should not have too much custom code

edgy widget
lost saffron
#

Yeh

#

Just copy elements from what you like

edgy widget
#

I don't use overly complicated WA replacements; I think they're very redundant, prone to failure, and frankly just pointless

#

I use action bars and a handful of personally built simple WAs to keep track of de/buffs/stacks/etc

lost saffron
#

I use atrocity UI but I adjust alot myself

#

which is not for everyone

edgy widget
#

there's nothing wrong with using Luxthos, or any of the other whole UI replacement WAs, but you've got to
A) like and agree with their layout
B) know how to customize what you don't like
C) hope they keep it updated in a timely manner (some do, some don't)

#

ultimately its about finding what works for you, don't let anyone else tell you different

lost saffron
#

Yes and if you dont agree with their layout you most likely have to know lua to some extend to fix it

#

but that is covered in B

edgy widget
#

sometimes yeah

#

depends on how robust it is

#

I personally follow the KISS theory - keep it stupid simple

#

I don't want overly complicated shit, I want simple and reliable

upbeat sentinel
#

1 pixel to the right? suk

lost saffron
#

The thing is most people tend to use similar uis

pallid tangle
lost saffron
#

most weakauras tend to follow a similar pattern

latent hedge
warm path
#

i am very boring with my ui and i can't stand all the minimalist uis that i see a lot of people using

#

i like being able to see everything

#

_>

lost saffron
#

What do you mean everything

valid pulsar
#

i use the whole ui from revvez the wa's and elvui profiles and other stuff. i like it alot. you have to use your prime to get it though yep

warm path
#

like even the empty bars

upbeat sentinel
#

what

#

the fuck

#

is that

warm path
#

lmao

modest condor
modest condor
#

i demand a refund

upbeat sentinel
#

But mining has 2 super value nodes

#

so it's nice

thorny jewel
#

Hey I know the guides say 15% extra damage for enrage. But rocking 9% haste at 570, thinking the haste from enrage for now?

upbeat sentinel
edgy widget
#

and multitarget is the only real content right now

#

that said, the content available right now is also jokes, so if Frenzied feels better to you, play it - H dungeons are still going to flop in 3 pulls anyway

lost saffron
#

haste is cute

#

but huge number is also cute

upbeat sentinel
#

did anyone here spec armorsmith

#

i will join your guild for crafts PLEASE

storm rune
#

You'll be force in to a contract to heal for the first quarter of S1

winter shoal
#

How much are you guys tipping for 590 pieces?

storm rune
#

5k

runic cypress
latent hedge
#

chase ilvl not stats

edgy widget
#

sheet as empty as your head

runic cypress
#

Id be pretty mad if i knew what you mean by that

lament wave
#

how much atm is slayer better than thane?

naive sky
#

So why would anger management not be reducing my cooldown of avatar?

sullen dove
#

cuz uh... it just doesnt

#

avatar pretty strong to have reduced cooldown

#

where recklessness and such isnt as strong

naive sky
#

hehe I miss read ravager as avatar

sullen dove
#

:3

quasi marsh
#

Can't wait to see what classes rise to the top of raaid and m+

dusky moon
#

nope

brittle crow
#

wild

spare steppe
#

wild that larynx sims 1.5% better than skarmok shard o.O

storm rune
quasi marsh
#

Interesting, I've heard nothing good about SP and Boomie so far, other than Boomie feels like dook and is getting a nerf

#

BUFF*, not nerf, I'm blitzed

storm rune
#

Well you gotta fill that 5th slot, if the boomie buffs land them in a decent slot you can trade bear for vdh for the extra damage amp while keeping vers

#

plus PI is still PI, and stam is stam

quasi marsh
#

I'd love SPriest to be popping though, favorite class besides Warrior and Lock

warm crag
spare steppe
restive peak
#

Boomie is legit AFK

#

It's likely to be bear/rsham/arcane/aug/lock

storm rune
#

locks looking that hot?

restive peak
#

Locks absolutely fuck

storm rune
#

I'm cool with that, lock is like my second fav class

restive peak
#

Our brew/fury/outlaw/aug/rdruid comp is about to crush

quasi marsh
#

I have heard Mage and Locks are super good, past that, I'm unsure of all life xD

storm rune
#

brew over prot? Makes my heart sad

restive peak
#

Equinox plays brew bro it's his jam

storm rune
#

yeah fair enough, not questioning your judgement

restive peak
#

I mean we got title last season and we were giga dog, so should be a fun season

storm rune
#

As long as you get some wars into .1% we're all happy

#

Sense can continue to rep the prot life

restive peak
#

We gotchu mang

raven needle
#

hey guys , any WA to keep track of Thunder Blast

orchid iron
#

if Ive got the rage (cds), do I want to just go rampage CB rampage CB until I cant, or keep going through bloodbath, sudden death, etc

storm rune
#

You only want to BB if it's not going to rage cap you

#

SD takes prio over everything as long as BS is on CD

fiery scarab
#

which is better to use mountain thane or slayer ?

orchid iron
#

slayer

covert blaze
brittle crow
#

is there any reason to do delves rn other than for fun

#

any achievements related to em i can just get when theyre actually challenging/give gear right?

warm crag
#

level brann to 15 ig

warm crag
winter shoal
#

Is there really any reason to craft a 590 weapon instead of just upgrading an adventurer weapon to 590?

restive peak
#

Less crests

orchid iron
#

it says my name on it

#

for the drip

silk wharf
#

Crafting at least one weapon will make upgrading the second weapon cost less

#

as well

vivid lagoon
#

Guys got a question should I use my crest to upgrade my 584 or should I wait until season one when we get at least 593?

orchid iron
#

weathered cresys are safe to spenmd

#

whether or not its a good use of flight stones is debatable

vivid lagoon
#

So it’s a good call to just use the the weathered crest to upgrade those 584?

orchid iron
#

you wont need weathered for the mythic tier shit so its fine to spend them, I personally dont want to grind the valorstones to go past 580 but if you got em you arent doing anything bad

vivid lagoon
#

Oh you’re right

#

Fuck I am so dumb lol

#

Thank you dude

orchid iron
#

u got it

restive peak
#

We're so overloaded w valorstones bro, I upgraded everything before doing the crafting and have 2k cap again already

orchid iron
#

i have a hard time grinding shit I dont need gear from haha

spare steppe
restive peak
#

You get tons just flying around doing the wqs and shit

orchid iron
#

it takes like 1000 to take something to 8/8

spare steppe
#

Wild, I’m far from drowning in valorstones

viral jasper
#

If you play 8 hours a day maybe

#

That sounds miserable doe

dapper goblet
#

down with zhai

meager gyro
#

someone show me fury sim with best adventure gear and stuff? I'm curious if I need to grind a bit for raid launch

latent hedge
#

no

restive peak
#

This is fairly close, no need to do it unless you're going into heroic day 1, but yeah

meager gyro
#

about the same as rogue, whew I can justify bringing fury

restive peak
#

Yeah we're quite strong, also remember we do giga AOE and most fights have cleave

gleaming crag
#

so which flask are we supposed to use because guide says mastery and chaos

meager gyro
#

Imma grind it and I can craft all that shit already ! @restive peak

restive peak
#

And a lot of them are big AOE phases

restive peak
#

Ye we want chaos flask

dense shard
#

I cannot find anyone that can make 590 pants that isnt charging 15k reeee

meager gyro
#

15k cheap

#

I'm charging 35k

dense shard
#

I got all my other pieces free

meager gyro
#

play on poo poo server, get poo poo rewards

dense shard
#

Stormrage is pretty nice

meager gyro
#

oh, it's nice you got a lot of free, I'm saying my server is poo poo

dense shard
#

Ahhhh lol

gleaming crag
sonic badge
#

is fury loot specilization still Arms?

dense shard
#

I have 400k I just dont wanna spend 15k going from 580 to 590

gleaming crag
#

i dont know why they havent deleted it

meager gyro
#

🙄

#

b/c I pay them not too, obviously

latent hedge
meager gyro
#

not my fault, they are the ones that went from one handers to two two-handers in a cataclysmically fucked decision

covert blaze
#

The rotation doesn't change

latent hedge
#

thats part of the joke

#

cause thats what was intended

burnt kelp
#

😠

meager gyro
#

damnit 😄

#

I only played vanilla and then again in WoD sadgers oh if only we get the days of WoD raid quality

burnt kelp
#

damn that was a long ass pause

meager gyro
#

debated saying that 😄

#

🔥 potentional flaming and all

gleaming crag
#

so why did they take away our increased haste based on mastery ?

meager gyro
#

they didn't take away mine

red burrow
#

I would love if Mountain Thane made raging blow do a sort of shaman storm strike to make up for not really using storm bolt for damage

#

Just more lightning effects and themes in general would be cool. But yeah, Raging Blow kinda boring I would love the zappy effects

silk wharf
#

just fire the Oppressive Orator's Larynx trinket right? No need to wait for stacks I assume.

hasty goblet
#

what % haste should we be aiming for?

olive wraith
#

We don’t do stat thresholds

#

We just sim (I’m unsure if Raidbots was updated though)

#

Oh it is. Just sim

hasty goblet
#

ill download it

#

im going for the pre raid bis list

olive wraith
#

Go off king

hasty goblet
#

jjust need the shoulders and the weapons and i got everything

modest condor
#

it's a website not a program, you dont have to download it lol

hasty goblet
#

but was wondering if i could just use the faction vendor shoulders instead since they cant drop for me lmao

modest condor
#

yeah ofcourse you can

hasty goblet
#

i need to download the addon?

#

i thoughtr

#

to copy the text info

modest condor
#

oh true

#

yeah

hasty goblet
#

ye ima download it now

modest condor
#

man i keep forgetting that the /simc command requires an addon lol

hasty goblet
#

i know wish they can just build it in already lol

orchid iron
#

how much of a dps increase are the weapon enchants right now? theyre all expensive

olive wraith
#

I wouldn’t bother putting in too much effort for gearing atm

#

It’ll all get replaced in a week

spare steppe
hasty goblet
#

can we get spirits of awakenings yet?

#

or craft any good weapons yet?

modest condor
#

no, you need 2 sparks to craft a good 2h weapon and we don't get the 2nd one until raid opens

hasty goblet
#

ok. where can we get the first onw?

orchid iron
#

you get half of one for the weekly you pick

hasty goblet
#

ahh got it, i see. thank you

orchid iron
#

then you can turn that in for two halfs at the end of the main campaign thats unlocked so far

hasty goblet
#

thanks

civic echo
#

can you get embelishments on non spark crafted gear

civic echo
#

oh nice

#

ima get it on weapon and bracers then i guess

gleaming crag
#

I went 2h sword like an idiot

orchid iron
#

the guide still says the 2h crafted sword is the move but that it doesnt matter a ton, what does the hive mind thing

#

think*

modest condor
#

man

#

Note that if you do decide to craft a weapon, the type does not matter - there is no performative difference between swords, axes, or maces.

#

he just put the sword as an example of weapon

echo stump
#

sadly most people just copy paste the guide and think sword is better than other weapons kek

orchid iron
#

yea but they do have different damage ranges, does that become a factor in other content

modest condor
#

the damage range is flavour text

#

it doesnt influence anything

orchid iron
#

gotcha

civic echo
#

ok so apparently you gotta use rank 3 of ascension on the 590 weapon

#

and it cost 38k so do i just do 2 other things?

modest condor
#

i would not bother with embellishments on non-spark items

#

you're gonna throw those items away again anyway

#

spark items you can actually upgrade all the way

civic echo
#

aight

covert blaze
#

I used r2 ascension just fine it was like 2k

#

if that

orchid iron
#

^mfers still want like 20k for it on proudmore

civic echo
#

well that's good to know

#

i think rank 2 is like 5k for me

#

much better than 38k tho

edgy widget
edgy widget
civic echo
#

ah yeah i decided not to do it

edgy widget
#

only thing you'd use it for is raid, and you're very likely to replace that weapon before you actually go into raid anyway

clever path
#

Is 1h fury still viable in retail? (Genuine question)

modest condor
#

depends on what you mean by viable

#

can you kill the final boss on mythic? yeah
are you trolling if you do that? also yeah

#

if you just do heroic then it's more than fine

winter shoal
#

Do you know the actual % these days silm? I feel like I remember it being like 5-6% behind in df but I think I heard someone say it's more like 2-3% now

peak hamlet
#

What are people saying is the BIS trinkets pre Mythic 0 week

winter shoal
#

Skarmorak shard and sacbrood are good

lyric saddle
#

im using skarmorak and sacbrood and

#

thats pretty good

meager gyro
sinful spoke
#

when simmed

lyric saddle
#

so if the sims are now updated

#

i wonder how the damage trinket are actually better

silk wharf
#

Low stats with poor damage scaling atm is my opinion.

lyric saddle
#

yeah that was my fight though as well

silk wharf
#

Stats scale with stats. so the more we have the better they are

lyric saddle
#

thats why im still using sacbrood and skarmorak

wispy dock
#

Has anyone messed with thane? I’ve mostly been doing heroics in slayer which feels great but just wonder others opinions for the future. I’m exclusively gonna be doing m+

unborn rover
#

What trinkets is everyone using?

#

Just got Skarmorak's Shard and wondering if its worth it

wispy dock
#

Slayer seems pretty nasty

#

I do enjoy some big thunder blasts to

smoky vale
#

play what you find fun

orchid dagger
#

Thane is so bad compared to Slayer though

sinful spoke
smoky vale
#

but there is a significant loss in st damage

wispy dock
#

Slayer it is

#

Pending tuning

brittle crow
#

is there anything new next week in terms of loot

#

i forgor

sinful spoke
#

slayers fun too

#

spin go win

brittle crow
#

good tbh

wispy dock
#

I spin

brittle crow
#

gives me more time to focus on loremaster

orchid dagger
#

like you "could" go Thane, but that's like saying you could go SMF

sinful spoke
#

yeah go thane smf

orchid dagger
#

it's technically an option, but so is blowing your foot off with a 12 gauge

wispy dock
#

Thane, SMF, champions spear

#

Full goober

brittle crow
#

spear is used tho in st

#

no?

smoky vale
#

its more of, the higher content you are doing the more the loss in not playing optimal will be and affect your desired outcome

#

no?

orchid dagger
#

why play SMF when TG is better
why play Thane when Slayer is better

#

etc etc

brittle crow
#

why play frenzied enrage when powerful enrage is better ........

smoky vale
#

because you find it somehow fun, only reason we play game no

brittle crow
#

cuz powerful feels like ASS

orchid dagger
#

would I like to SMF? yes
am I going to eat a dps loss to do so? no

latent hedge
orchid dagger
#

yeah, fucking covenants

#

at this point SMF is just for farms you oneshot with whirlwind because you wanted the 5% movespeed

brittle crow
#

covenants wouldve been peak if condemn was better

#

but because it wasnt, they were bad

orchid dagger
#

kek

latent hedge
#

condem was peak

#

wdym

brittle crow
#

peak (this shit is so ass)

#

i still played it

sullen dove
#

they wouldve been peak if you could swap between them at will and not do it once a week and have to do some dogshit weekly quest

orchid dagger
#

but in all seriousness the issue was covenants had player power instead of just cosmetics

sullen dove
#

like in 9.2 or whenever

smoky vale
#

hi swordish

sullen dove
#

i mean player power aside there were at least different scenarios youd use different ones

smoky vale
#

:3

sullen dove
#

(some were complete ass but besides the point

#

hi :3

latent hedge
#

idk man, condem felt like an execute sadge

sullen dove
#

but like its nice to be able to play kyrian for m+ if thats better and like NF or raid and necro for pvp or something

#

swapping whenever u want

#

but shit was stupid first season and a half of being fully locked in to one basically

latent hedge
#

ye that was good; it allowed people to play what was the strongest in the situation

sullen dove
#

just could not do that at the start

latent hedge
#

yuppers

sullen dove
#

then the korthia research shit pmuch killed wow i think among just other general shit coming out at the time

latent hedge
#

pull the ripcord (it didn't exist)

sullen dove
#

killed it as much as it was gonna die i think like ever

sudden scroll
#

If slayer just gave us condemn I'd have been so happy

latent hedge
#

i make my execute weakaura the condem icon to feel better okayge

brittle crow
#

i just want fury execute to actually do damage

orchid dagger
sudden scroll
#

I want to hit execute and have monkey nuerons activate

orchid dagger
#

the real one is to use Glyph of Bastion just to have the eye-searing spear

latent hedge
#

i like my poo spear

hasty goblet
#

hi. im simming for the first time since legion. is there any manual settings i need to select on raidbots website? or just default and copy and paste from the addon?

latent hedge
#

tyvm

#

does nature dmg okayge

orchid dagger
#

I liked Arcane spear

#

but tbh the damage type doesn't matter, just the zug

brittle crow
#

yes it does

#

i refuse to do arcane dmg

latent hedge
#

the only arcane dmg a warrior should do is when we use a arcane tome to hit people with

smoky vale
# hasty goblet hi. im simming for the first time since legion. is there any manual settings i n...

this will probably have most of the answers you are looking for https://www.wowhead.com/guide/how-to-use-raidbots-and-run-character-simulations-6050

orchid dagger
sinful spoke
hasty goblet
#

ok thank you. i dont need to set up anything specfic for fury , right?

#

just defualt settings? weekly patchwork 5 min?

sudden scroll
#

do latest

hasty goblet
#

thank you

open prairie
open prairie
#

mountain thane feels like it was designed for prot tbh

orchid dagger
#

it feels fine for fury

sudden scroll
hasty goblet
#

can someone confirm i should replace what its suggesting?

sinful spoke
#

Imagine bot being ilvl 599

#

Lol

open prairie
#

i mean it feels fine for fury but it just seems like it was originally made with prot in mind

sinful spoke
#

Couldnt be me

orchid dagger
#

it's just that slayer is mogging the fuck out of thane

open prairie
#

having it proc off your main ability

#

also fury not being able to use the thunderclap cosmetic glyph

#

is a huge L

orchid dagger
#

I still want to see a breakdown between:
TG Slayer
SMF Slayer
TG Thane
SMF Thane

#

I want to know just how fucked Thane is

latent hedge
#

tg wins big time

#

thane is even in mt, loses big time in st

orchid dagger
latent hedge
#

yup

orchid dagger
#

TFW SMF has a use case and Thane doesn't

sick jungle
#

Did darkmoon embellishments get nerfed?

sinful spoke
#

Theyre not even being used so

latent hedge
#

if they did, internal sims probably have them higher than they would like

sick jungle
#

My buddy saying Ascension was nerfed but i cant find any info on it

latent hedge
#

the trinkets were afaik

drowsy nacelle
#

i just wana understand with this talent we no longer need to take sudden death right ?

sullen dove
#

yes

sudden tusk
junior gale
sudden tusk
covert blaze
summer bobcat
#

is there a difference between having sword/mace/axe?

#

same ilvl and stats

sullen dove
#

no

sudden tusk
#

no all 2hs outside of the on hit sound effect are the same

sinful spoke
#

Yes sword does 30k more dps

sudden tusk
#

which you can change with mog

sinful spoke
#

It creates leas drag when you spin due to its shape

#

And makes ur bladestorm hit faster

#

And cut sharper

meager void
#

spears make you more agile too, check em out.

sinful spoke
#

Spears too long

summer quail
#

spears give you extra range. big good

sinful spoke
#

Yeah but less dmg because of grip

summer bobcat
#

my pfp is literally me and seeing these jokes

sinful spoke
#

Thats what u get for asking that question when the ingame tooltip answers it for u

summer bobcat
#

i ask whatever i want here

#

you aint nobody to tell me what to do anime boy

meager void
#

he has 4 legendaries tho

sinful spoke
summer bobcat
meager void
#

thats uno, dos, tres, catorce acoording to bono.

sinful spoke
#

Nah imagine trying to make fun of someone for watching anime in 2024

queen scaffold
#

Sorry for askin a dumb question but what are the best trinkets for us in the heroic dungeons?

meager void
#

skarmork skard and arakarak sacbrood

sinful spoke
#

90% of the warrior discord is weebs

summer bobcat
sinful spoke
#

?? LOL

#

Why do special people always gotta try and pick a fight with me

summer bobcat
#

you calling someone special is crazy

#

take a shower first we'll talk

#

this thread is smelling crazy rn

storm rune
#

showers are for normies

meager void
#

paralympic warriors

sinful spoke
#

Dont gotta shower if i dont smell bad

meager void
#

why take a shower tho

#

like, go undress and bathe,

#

got you there!

burnt kelp
#

Behave yourselves, dont make me get the jannies

summer bobcat
#

when tf this stupid AH finna get fixed

summer bobcat
#

these developers have Autism fr

sinful spoke
sudden tusk
#

last shitpost before bed

#

gn

sullen dove
summer quail
brittle crow
#

is there an addon to tell when the last time a rare has spawned

storm rune
#

the fact that they overlapped 3 different songs for that audio

#

that's some dedication to a meme

torpid sand
#

is this shit happening to someone else

molten wing
#

its a known issue with the AH

#

according to blizz they will attempt a fix when reset happens

summer bobcat
#

that would be too late jesus

brittle crow
#

just buy further down the list

slim grotto
#

Sorry if this is off-topic. I did the Radiant Echo world soul thing last week, and still have the quest item in my bags. How do we do another World Soul event?

brittle crow
#

you don't i think

slim grotto
#

there's an achieve for doing world soul in every zone so I figured it's a repeatable thing?

molten wing
#

there are a couple of world soul events in each zone they show on the map

#

but its a weekly thing i believe

#

just go to another zone and you should see one on the map

slim grotto
#

did you guys see a new one this week?

molten wing
#

i think i saw one in hollowfall but cant check atm

torpid sand
covert blaze
covert blaze
#

(use auctionator it fixes the problem)

fading sky
rare fjord
#

is authority of depths outperforming radiant in m+?

green mason
#

I was told that I have to do the main story quests to unlock raid. Is this true? I hate questing, and am already 80 from dungeon spam.

open prairie
#

How do you even unlock the worldsoul stuff

open prairie
south kayak
#

Yo

green mason
modern venture
#

hey guys, i'm using Luxthos WA (for 3 other classes as well) and I'm noticing framerate drops only for warrior. Any one else experience this?

#

I believe it's coming from the WA cause when I turn it off, I don't have the issue anymore

brittle crow
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i also use luxthos' warrior

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i dont have that issue tho

modern venture
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hmm ok

frozen junco
modern venture
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It seems to be revolving around raging blow/blood thirst

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When I hide them, i don't have the issue anymore

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and yeah it's a fresh install, but i'll do it again

modern venture
flint peak
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Hey guys, I am new to warrior and the wowhead guide is not so clear on something. Should I be using slam as part of my rotation?

balmy verge
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anybody got idea why bladestorm wa is not showing on mountain thane but it shows on slayer?

summer quail
clever belfry
modern venture
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So it is BT and RB

elder vessel
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so with slayer i assume bt/bb has absolute prio?

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for the reap the storm procs

modern venture
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This is with RB and BT hidden. How do I figure out what's causing them to make me lag so much?