fury

[next canopy]

I would say nah but i dunno

[quasi marsh]

I think if you're oprah rich on WoW it makes sense, but if you're struggling with gold making, probably not xD

I just don't want an excuse for a raid team not to take me lol

[next canopy]

Exactly

Agree

Skill/consistency and mechanics are more of the concern i would say

[quasi marsh]

Sadly most low tier raid teams favor ilvl at first glance than seeing if the player is good xD

[elder sierra]

You can get 590 in all crafted slots (assuming you have the crests) for like 10k max a piece, including materials and tip

[next canopy]

crazy but i guess show ur willing to grind or cash out

[quasi marsh]

Yeah I have like 30k to my name, I'm probably the worst at making gold xD

[oak peak]

When M0s are released, what dungeons will be available? Is it the 8 TWW ones? 8 seasonal?

[runic cypress]

All of them I'm sure

[restive peak]

8 seasonal ones

[oak peak]

Gotcha, thanks

[inner zinc]

what kind of gems are we looking like we are gonna need for the sockets? Ive got a JC im about to lvl so im trying to plan ahead

[wary grove]

Big Mastery + Small haste

[gleaming siren]

what a cute meowmeow

meow meow got that :3 in them

[wary grove]

Then one of each other colour

[ornate gust]

Do you guys macro Reck and Avatar in this season?

[fickle bluff]

no

[ornate gust]

Can you elaborate ?

[fickle bluff]

titans torment

[ornate gust]

ya.. got your point

[oak peak]

Cant look up what titans torment does right now, can you elaborate real quick?

[fickle bluff]

avatar casts OF

[clever belfry]

several people are typing

[sudden tusk]

When you avatar it casts odyns fury

[clever belfry]

the f is for fast?

[upbeat sentinel]

“With enough sockets” we get 6 of the 8 for free soooo

[oak peak]

Hm why should you not macro them together then?

[fickle bluff]

though it wouldnt matter if you never play spear

[sudden tusk]

I reck on opener then have it baked into avatar after

[clever belfry]

hate spear

[balmy shore]

i do dis

[clever belfry]

true kings have a reck and a ava+reck bind

[balmy shore]

still two binds but it's reck and reck/ava

[noble pulsar]

does fury loot spec give 2 handers? iv only seen one handers thus far

[fickle bluff]

and matters again if titanic rage is dropped

[clever belfry]

latter being useful for titans torment titanic rage yep

[fickle bluff]

it gives both

you loot spec arms to avoid that

[clever belfry]

go arms loot spec

[noble pulsar]

So worst luck possible, thanks 😦

[noble pulsar]

will do

[split yoke]

If you use stat buff weapon enchants, do you use 2 different in order not to overwrite the buff or does it just add up?

[fickle bluff]

it doesnt add, youll have higher proc rate

[urban drum]

i love fury warrior

[fickle bluff]

i seem to remember them changing it so it extends and doesnt overwrite in DF but i dont know if thats been carried over to TWW

[oblique trail]

Can't say I've delved into TWW enchants in case they for some reason changed, but if you had 2x of the same Enchant in DF, it'd just double up whenever it'd proc

[clever belfry]

number go big?

[oblique trail]

📈

[dapper kestrel]

where could I get the current "bis gear"sim profile ? I wanted to see how big of a variation would mechagnome be on the stats I have now vs full bis

[clever belfry]

the b word

fuck

[hot shoal]

Anyone know what the best items to craft are, right now? Without using spark

[edgy widget]

I'll push a BiS SimC profile tonight

but mechagnome ain't that much higher, certainly not enough to warrant being a diapergnome

[dapper kestrel]

cause right now, I havent even dropped gems/ enchants and so on is roughly 9k

[willow cradle]

Was bout to say I think only 6 classes have their SimC profiles released currently

[dapper kestrel]

vs NE I mean

just wondering if its worth or nah

[oblique trail]

If you ahve to ask, it's not

At most between the absolute top and the bottom, it's a 1.5%~ difference

[clever belfry]

expressing gains in % is usually more indicative

Raw numbers without a reference frame are rather useless

[dapper kestrel]

roghly 1%

[edgy widget]

Yeah, that sounds about right

that's not nearly enough for me to want to spend money on it, or stomach staring at that abomination day in and out

[dapper kestrel]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/tWwUCCGrdTNTsPWE5g5BtQ
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/wVWSutRsNpCamcKNMfsdya

yeah my mates WW and DK dps both bit the bullet and were saying its kinda nice

[edgy widget]

also other races tend to pick up steam after a tier or two of inflation

[clever belfry]

across gleeful glamours and recal its a lot easier to not have to look at it atleast

[dapper kestrel]

so I was like, should I?

[clever belfry]

im never my silly dwarf in raid as is

[edgy widget]

one thing is its only really good for ST, not so much MT

[dapper kestrel]

(mind you I just changed the race, im like aoe talents and shit)

[edgy widget]

cause of the way the combat analysis racial stacks in combat

[inner zinc]

oh snap, so meta gems are somewhat back. Thats neat

also didnt see that section of the guide

ty

[mighty river]

Hello everyone! I'm new here and came to ask about how much haste does fury need. Thanks in advance 🙂

[edgy widget]

theres no real set number, but generally around 20%ish

it's a very flexible number, since all stats are interdependent

(this is why we use robots)

[mighty river]

25% would be too much? And what about crit?

[tired lily]

Morning peeps, just came back after a 20ish year hiatus. Boosted a warrior, going fury to get from 70 to 80. I play casually with a shaman right now and I am having trouble finding a rotation or build that makes sense.

[past pivot]

Normally, you’d sim and follow recommendations. For now, focus on haste and mastery and you should be ok.

[past pivot]

Did you read the guides and dps-faq channel?

[gleaming siren]

I will just pull up raider.io and copy my favorite warrior player's items

[tired lily]

I used wowhead and icyveins but their rotations they recommend don't match the builds they recommend... which I found odd.

[edgy widget]

specifically?

[tired lily]

Yea let me get you an example I might jsut be overthinking this.

[humble plover]

Make sure you select the matching talents too

These

[tired lily]

AHH ok, so maybe that is whats up. I saw their recommended build and the rotation

[dense elbow]

WoWhead and IcyVeins should not recommend the same builds, IcyVeins should suggest SMF; ya cant change my mind

[clever belfry]

?

[tired lily]

it was weird, the build I believe wowhead had used champions spear but not bladestorm and the icyveins was vice versa

like I am just thinking most mobs I kill right now take like fricken 20 seconds max

[edgy widget]

they both should default the same

or similar enough anyway

[humble plover]

For now I'd just use the m+ aoe style. Champions spear is more ST focused anyways

[edgy widget]

I've tried to set them up so that they default to the "main" build that most people will play

but ofc you can customize differently as you see fit

[tulip geode]

How much ST dps loss is running single minded fury?

[edgy widget]

~5%

[dense elbow]

5-10% ish?

[tired lily]

st ?

single target?

[dense elbow]

yep

[halcyon tulip]

can anyone help me realquick why this macro is not working?

#showtooltip [known:Bladestorm] Bladestorm; [known:Ravager] Ravager
/cast Bladestorm
/cast [target=cursor] Ravager

it don't change from bladestorm to ravager at all..

[tulip geode]

Ok thank you comrades

[edgy widget]

the main difference is that WH has separate checkboxes for ST and AoE, while IV uses the same for both

just because of the way the sites are setup, but they should otherwise be p much the same

[fickle bluff]

because what youve written looks insane

#showtooltip
/cast [known:ravager,@cursor] Ravager;bladestorm

[edgy widget]

#1237307732705415228

[tired lily]

I gotta basically redo everything after boosting it looks like the spellbook threw up on my hotbars

[halcyon tulip]

but it works on my paladin lol

[edgy widget]

the reason it doesn't work is because Bladestorm and Ravager are both on the GCD and you're trying to cast both

you have it setup to change tooltips, but it's specifically trying to cast both abilities

basically the way macros work, you're typing that into your chat box and hitting enter after each line

[dense elbow]

Just use #showtooltip
/cast bladestorm
/cast [@cursor] Ravager
The tooltip will update based on what is known

[edgy widget]

so you're telling it
#showtooltip (stuff)
then
/cast this
then
/cast that

[tired lily]

Is there anywhere that shows hotbar setup recommendations ?

[edgy widget]

instead of
#showtooltip (stuff)
then
/cast this OR that

[true folio]

So, do we spend our sparks in Wild Hammer when its available or nah? Did not find any stickies.

[humble plover]

Nah that's all ur personal preference

[fickle bluff]

wild hammer is an item that you loot

[edgy widget]

wild hammer is a drop, not a crafted item; you're looking for #1237307555961634826 in the #dps-faq which is stickied, pinned, and in the mess of channels on your left

[tired lily]

Thanks for the help guys, its been a wicked learning curve coming back after so long away.

[edgy widget]

not really and a lot of long-term players have insane keybinds because that's what they started playing with and got used to when they started playing at 12 years old

[tired lily]

I have horrible habits, I click all the buttons on the hotbars. I watch the hotbar more then the dang game.

[edgy widget]

if you really wanna put some effort into it, the important part of setting up good hotkeys is minimizing reach - layout everything so that it's easy to press with strong fingers (index, middle) more so than weak ones (ring, pinky) without stretching or twisting your hand halfway across the keyboard to do so

[mighty river]

thanks for you answer. No I haven't checked that, but gonna do it right now

[edgy widget]

like sure you can get used to your main ability being on 1 and spamming it with your pinky, but you're much more likely to develop issues than if you're pressing keys like 45RTFGHCVB

[hasty river]

have you been able to sim earthen yet?

[edgy widget]

yeah for a few months now

[hasty river]

any good?

[edgy widget]

mid

armor racial is worth about 1% and the other two suck

so it's firmly in the middle of the pack - neither great nor terrible, just... there

[hasty river]

thanks

[dense elbow]

My best advice is to just get a WA package that shows abilities available, then tell the game to hide your action bars in combat. It will force you to build the memory of what keybind do what. When you must do so - your brain suddenly finds the will to do and learn it easily

[halcyon tulip]

#showtooltip
/cast [@Thorgarak, known:Ravager] Ravager; [known:Bladestorm] Bladestorm
/cast Recklessness

now it works.. fuck my paladin why is he so wierd :/

[dense elbow]

Trick is to let showtooltip be specific or just have in free to find whatever is known

[brittle snow]

So Slayer is the main way to go for fury in all content?

[halcyon tulip]

yah

[dense elbow]

More or less

[brittle snow]

Gotcha

[tired lily]

I did download WA I am going to school at nights for my masters degree to figure that shiz out

[dense elbow]

It becomes 2nd nature after a decade or two

[tired lily]

yea problem is I left before it and came back after it lol, I got it to "sorta" work for my level 34 frost mage

[brittle snow]

Part of me wants to be arms but i love Fury too lol

[dense elbow]

Why not both?

[brittle snow]

Yea i suppose so

Have one character be arms other fury

[dense elbow]

Or let one char do both?

[brittle snow]

Im a crazy alt person

so ive got alot lol

[dense elbow]

Fair

[brittle snow]

Ive got like 5 80s almost 6 and then 7

[brittle crow]

"insane keybinds" smh

[brittle snow]

I suck at keybinding lol

[brittle crow]

its NORMAL to have every single rotational ability on just my right thumb

dont judge me

[brittle snow]

I just do what i know i can do xD

[summer quail]

i got raging blow and interrupt on right thumb

[humble plover]

Mains spells on right thumb. Wild

That's where ptt is can't be having rotation over there

[orchid iron]

Legion Demon Hunter when you just put the builder on mousewheel up and the spender on mousewheel down lmao

[summer quail]

what's ptt

[forest owl]

reap the storm going hard

[golden hare]

push to talk

[brittle crow]

my right thumb handles rb, bt, execute, ramp, whirlwind, odyns, roar, bladestorm, heroic throw, charge, leap, storm bolt, intim shout, shockwave, hamstring, victory rush, intervene, both trinket slots, intervene, fishing, and overload elemental deposit

[summer quail]

ahh ty

[brittle crow]

@ me

[south kayak]

@brittle crow

[hot topaz]

im new to fury, so thsi might have an obvious answer. but is spacing out rampages in order to maximize enrage uptime an important thing to manage?

[humble plover]

@brittle crow degen behavior

[brittle crow]

yes, ish

[hot topaz]

or is enrage uptime kinda secondary to using things on cd

[humble plover]

Wtf do you use your left hand for?

[burnt kelp]

don't ask that

[fickle bluff]

jorkin it

[humble plover]

Hahahaha

[brittle crow]

cooldowns, defensives, stances, spell reflect/berserker rage, jorkin it, potions/rally

[south kayak]

hey

[dense elbow]

You want to be enraged, but rotation keeps you enraged - so dont worry about it too much. Now, if you play RA, you want to use CB/BB (Bloodthirst and raging blow improved) before you send rampage again. Details is in the guide in the pins o7

[south kayak]

guys

[humble plover]

Play with forehead so both hands are free

🧠

[fickle bluff]

what is it mail gear user

[hot topaz]

heard that. ty ty

[south kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/asmon-gold-asmon-smash-asmon-bald-asmon-stupid-gif-25060244

[brittle crow]

u definitely NEED to optimize rage gen a little bit at least in single target

u WILL rage starve if u dont press buttons past how much it takes to ramp

[south kayak]

rage starve me

[viral jasper]

Mmo mouse is the most horribly uncomfortable way to play

Getting carpal tunnel thinking about it

[brittle crow]

if ur enrage timer has plenty left, and u can execute or raging blow without overcapping, then u should @hot topaz

i believe that doesnt apply to bloodthirst tho

[south kayak]

I like that Ramapge still does #1 damage, almost even tho we overcap rage a lot with RA

wasn't like that in DF

[brittle crow]

simply stretch its not hard

gamers will do everything except take care of themselves

[ivory nacelle]

They need to take Rampage off the GCD like they are doing with the season of discovery

would be wild!

[brittle crow]

rampage off gcd? wtf

[south kayak]

rampage in season is a damn buff

it's an attack here

[humble plover]

This man picked up the cookware

[south kayak]

completely different ability

[ivory nacelle]

Well if Rampage was off GCD it would be way more fun

[humble plover]

I mean he's silly. But hes not wrong

[burnt kelp]

lets all take this moment to remember our beloved heroic strike

[ivory nacelle]

RIP my mouse wheel

[humble plover]

But then we'd just macro rampage to every other spell

[ivory nacelle]

yeah... and that would be FUN

[south kayak]

how is that fun

[ivory nacelle]

animation wise

[burnt kelp]

well you wouldn't macro rampage to every other spell because then your enrage uptime would be garbage

[south kayak]

any pet battles wq haters?

[brittle crow]

i just dont do em

whats forcing u

[humble plover]

My enrage uptime is the best. I have the greatest enrage uptime. China doesn't even come close to my enrage uptime

[burnt kelp]

and ofc with reckless abandon you'd want a bloodthrist and a rb between every heroic strike

[south kayak]

Heroic Strike? WHERE IS IT?

[burnt kelp]

😔

[brittle crow]

get heroic strike GONE

forever

[humble plover]

Not very heroic anymore

[south kayak]

Cowardish Strike

[dense elbow]

Buff OF

[south kayak]

no

[dense elbow]

[dusky sun]

What the first thing we craft?

[humble plover]

A girlfriend

[dusky sun]

Awesome

[runic cypress]

In a better place🥺

[humble plover]

Wait not that far in the future yet

[dense elbow]

Everything is in the pins 📌

[dusky sun]

Ok was trying to find it

[strong tusk]

Fury is fun as hell lol

[burnt kelp]

I tried fire mage, when you think about it

[humble plover]

Zug Zug bonk

[burnt kelp]

combustion is just old recklessness and fire blast is just heroic strike

🧠

[dense elbow]

Top right, the pin marker on desktop. On phone, swipe down to drag down the menu, chose pin messages

[humble plover]

I like your thinking, but also mage so

[dusky sun]

Thx

[humble plover]

Evil wizard

[south kayak]

Oh shit found one

[haughty cloud]

Is Thane dumpster? Is there any hope?

[dense elbow]

There is hope, it just needs some ST help

[haughty cloud]

Wasn’t enjoying keeping up with all the extra executes

[dense elbow]

Ya only execute once every new moon tho

[haughty cloud]

The sudden deaths were going off like crazy on my slayer build

[strong tusk]

Is there a macro to use for your abilities to not have to tab target let’s say if you’re in the middle of a big pack and you are targeting to press let’s say execute but they die and it will just swing similar to like thrash on guardian ? Where you don’t need a target or is that dumb lol

[heavy plover]

With the focus on sudden death for slayer, why do we not take sudden death as a talent 🤔

[dense elbow]

Ye, but ya dont send exe on CD, as execute is bad :( You only delay your real damage dealer, Crushing Blow

Ya kinda just wanna pop the 3 stack mark thingiediebob, and ya dont need SD talent for that

Execute is weaksauce (other than in PvP, in PvP it is decent)

[heavy plover]

But without the SD talent, the AJ buff falls off all the time.

[eternal sundial]

sd is a not worth the point so it is what it is

[south kayak]

They should nerf CB/RB and buff Execute

[dense elbow]

Agreed

[olive wraith]

So we only do damage in execute range?

[south kayak]

The opposite

lol

[olive wraith]

How would that be the opposite

[heavy plover]

I think some of the main reason Slayer is so strong compared to Thane is because Slayer has pure %dmg increase debuff. If that was balanced a bit with Thane or Thane was increased overall to compare they'd probably be more competitve to each other

[south kayak]

you don't only do damage in execute range because execute is not strong

[olive wraith]

But if you nerf the normal rotation and buff execute

Guess what

[heavy plover]

Execute isn't high on the priority list.

[south kayak]

oh, sorry, my bad

i was confused

[heavy plover]

If you nerf the normal rotation you also risk RA becoming not "meta" and then CB and BB go away

[south kayak]

I guess that would be true yes but with Slayer you Execute a lot more before 35%

so it's gonna be pretty much similar?

[heavy plover]

Yeah

[olive wraith]

Your suggestion still promotes an execute range damage spike

I don’t want to be arms

[heavy plover]

You still weave it in according to the pri list. It's just like number 12 or 13 lol

Not having execute a huge part of the rotation is ok imo. Execute is more of an arms thing nowadays anyway. Glorious part of the arms rotation, but an arms thing nonetheless

[south kayak]

How does spiking your execute damage make you arms?

[olive wraith]

That’s kind of arms niche

Big dmg in execute range

[heavy plover]

Arms damage profile huge spikes at 35 or 20%

Like by 15-20%

Its crazy

[eternal sundial]

Spikes huh

[quiet geyser]

Strongly disagree. Slayer SHOULD be essentially use execute on cooldown. The fact that it isnt, is weird. Tuning cb down a bit and making execute a lil stronger is definitely healthy

[orchid dagger]

If they tune CB down people just won't click RB at all

And that's the problem

[restive peak]

I mean that's not true

[quiet geyser]

Thsts simply not true

[clever belfry]

yeah u would?

[quiet geyser]

I dont think you realize just how strong cb is lol

[restive peak]

The issue they've created is that RB/CB triggers our tier set, so it being strong actually helps out shit tier set, but execute is borderline on life support

[clever belfry]

like what else u gonna press

slam!

[halcyon tulip]

#showtooltip
/cast [@Thorgarak, known:Ravager] Ravager; [known:Bladestorm] Bladestorm
/cast Avatar

why my avatar is not working at the same time but recklessness do? it only work if i put avatar first

[clever belfry]

Ww??

[restive peak]

Execute is basically just to reset BS sooner, or as a last choice filler before pressing slam/WW, it's very bad

[orchid dagger]

What is this fucking macro

/cast Recklessness
/cast Avatar
/cast Ravager [@player]
/cast Bladestorm

Ideally @cursor, but some people need @player I guess

[clever belfry]

or maybe dont rely on dogshit 14 ability macros

[orchid dagger]

Having a Swifty One Shot macro is nice

[graceful ruin]

im sure the macros work fine for a lot of ppl

[restive peak]

I use @player and not @cursor, it's really not a big deal

If you drop your rav or spear wrong you're just dumb, cursor is useful when sending rav on pull and youu want it ahead of you basically

[graceful ruin]

i guess player just means you cant fire off the ravager before charging in

in m+

[orchid dagger]

Must be a pve thing

[restive peak]

Otherwise...why are you throwing spear before you're at the boss anyway

[orchid dagger]

If my ass is sitting in a frost mage root I want the ravager ticking on the mage

[halcyon tulip]

What is this fucking macro

[dense elbow]

they talk PvE not PvP

[halcyon tulip]

kek

[dense elbow]

dont worry about it, cursor in PvP always

[modest condor]

that's a dps loss anyway

imo @cursor is better because sometimes you want it somewhere where you cant stand safely

[graceful ruin]

idk TWW stuff yet

[modest condor]

example i used before was first boss in azure vault

you generally dont want to be on the tank since that's where adds die and leave swirlies

but you want your ravager to be on the tank since that's where the adds are

[orchid dagger]

Oh I know, but it's funny to see the NPC punchers yap

[quiet geyser]

Npc punchers

Lol

[graceful ruin]

wow pvp in 2024 is crazy lol

[dense elbow]

Start of season PvP, is best PvP - healtbars actually move

[torpid imp]

Am I smoking crack or does ravager move? Does it follow you or the enemy

[dense elbow]

it does

[orchid dagger]

I mean I was bullying this frost mage with Thane Prot last night

[graceful ruin]

follows enemy

[modest condor]

it does move, but slowly, and it stops once it hits an enemy, which means other enemies may still be out of range

[quiet geyser]

Maybe a little bit of A, maybe a little bit of B

[modest condor]

and yes it follows enemies

[torpid imp]

Gotcha thanks

[orchid dagger]

Yeah it will chase enemies until it hits one it doesn't kill

Then stick on them like white on rice

[rotund flume]

is there a difference if i craft an axe or a sword? just aesthetics?

[alpine haven]

One is an axe another is a sword

[covert blaze]

no difference

just make sure you craft a strength one

[carmine sentinel]

what we should craft first? weapon or bracers?

[restive peak]

PVP is dogwater in this game btw, and not harder than early release mythic prog

[orchid dagger]

Fuck you mom I'm playing Dagger spec

[alpine haven]

lmao what purpose does this even serve to say

[upbeat sentinel]

you should not be using the Omen stuff yet

[orchid dagger]

PvE players malding

[alpine haven]

Its 200% bait

[south kayak]

Yeah what the fuck linc

im disappointed in you

[quiet geyser]

@alpine haven

[restive peak]

What Io linked

KEEP UP BRUH

[alpine haven]

Yeah but Buhsac is insane

[restive peak]

So am I

We're all insane

We're in a video game discord daily

Yapping

[dense elbow]

He is right you know

[graceful ruin]

we're npc punchers

[covert blaze]

pvp in mmos is the biggest meme in gaming

[upbeat sentinel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1201877990280269845/1279483009007095808/image.png?ex=66d49ae8&is=66d34968&hm=38b45ce952eb4e89eee899a8dd93f290e5a63299105532c1b23c013431a539df&

Why is JC so awful

[humble plover]

Just cut the rock

Do it

And I think PvP is fun till marksman hunters and mages join. God I hated hearing only pve hunters complain about squishy they are

[willow cradle]

I've actually been having a blast in PvP despite not enjoying it in the past

Plus the honor set looks great

[upbeat sentinel]

You have comitted wrongthink

[graceful ruin]

something can be bad and still enjoyable right

[willow cradle]

Because I'm enjoying it currently or because I disliked it before?

[upbeat sentinel]

Yes

[covert blaze]

this entire game

[willow cradle]

Lmao

[edgy python]

are the vagabond staffs any1 good as a warry

[ornate gust]

Should we craft the embellishment wrist right now as ilvl 590?

[covert blaze]

yeah it's fine

it's sparks you gotta be wary about not ''wasting''

cause embellishment tuning can still happen so it's advisable to hold onto your sparks

[rotund ginkgo]

but thats for s4 df

[covert blaze]

if you open it and read it maybe rag

it says tww and was updated a couple of days ago idk

the causese one should be fine either way

[dreamy flume]

Whats worth upgrading past 4/8?

[rotund ginkgo]

uh zhai actually im a warrior

so no

i cant read

[dreamy flume]

dont wanna waste crests

[rotund ginkgo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1036769769543704576.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[rotund ginkgo]

truly doesnt matter

ur gonna replace em in 2 weeks

go nuts

id say if u wanna minmax probably head/chest/shoulders cuz u get them at 584 anyway

and maybe trinkies

[dreamy flume]

wut, so i dont wanna ugprade weapon slots? Xd

[rotund ginkgo]

craft 590s

https://tenor.com/view/mike-wazowski-mike-pog-pog-gif-154717314566640477

if u dont wanna craft nuthin then ye upgrade weps

[covert blaze]

i would just craft 590s

[rotund ginkgo]

also found this 1

rn

https://wago.io/GZMPP3LDH

work in prog

[dreamy flume]

like craft what? which 590

[rotund ginkgo]

and its the weakaura

blue axe

at 590 with crest

[mossy fox]

ty ragish

[dreamy flume]

im so confused by this new shit crafting bullshit, the blue ironclaw is like ilvl 545

[mossy fox]

ye twicks is usually the dude who posts these targeted WAs

[dreamy flume]

how do you magically make it 590

[restive peak]

You use the harbinger crests

[fickle bluff]

get an enchanted weathered crafted

use it as a secondary reagent

[mossy fox]

get these

[dreamy flume]

your all talking fucking greek, this system sucks

[south kayak]

lmao what

[fickle bluff]

i dont want to learn, it sucks

[restive peak]

xD

[south kayak]

this is simple

[dreamy flume]

there is no way to learn ingame

ofc it sucks cus of that

[restive peak]

Yeah there is, you open the slot options and read

[south kayak]

^

[mossy fox]

there you go

you have everything you need go buy stuff and get stuff crafted

[south kayak]

i can craft it at 590 if you're on draenor

cost three fiddy

[dreamy flume]

nothing says, this is where you click to increase an items ilvl, and this is where you get said item, etc etc

its shit

you gotta painstakingly figure it out

it suxxxxxxxxxxx

[vast sluice]

Not the three fiddy 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[covert blaze]

it's not that deep bro

[restive peak]

What do you mean, you want an arrow to everything?

Lol

[dreamy flume]

ofc

[restive peak]

It's an MMO, we've ruined this game with youtube vids and WoWhead man

Lol

[covert blaze]

oh that one is new

poggies

[dreamy flume]

when you gotta go out of game to figure shit out its trashhhh

[restive peak]

You know back in like classic through WOTLK, people still discovered shit like a year in

You don't, you just have to read

If you opened the item on the crafting person and moused over, you'd know what to buy

Then you'd just have to go to the AH and buy it

The first person to craft this tier didn't have a guide

Still didn't take long

[south kayak]

I remember when quests just had you read the text to figure out what to do instead of this tracking stuff we have now

[restive peak]

Lmao right

Like bruh we used to find shit 6 months into a patch

That was avail day 1

But noone had happened across it

Fortnite brainrot problems man

[south kayak]

I can feel how instagram reels or shorts made my brain worse

[humble plover]

Where is tutorial

[burnt kelp]

I dont, I had wow cartograph

[dreamy flume]

so i bought the thing ur on about, now what

still cant use it

needs to be enchanted or whatever

no way for me to figure out how to do it either

[restive peak]

Crit literally linked you the pattenr

Jesus bro

Brainrot

[mossy fox]

get it crafted

[south kayak]

Are you new to this game lol

[dreamy flume]

are you guys not reading? I BOUGHT THE THING HE SCREENSHOTTED

STILL CANT CRAFT WITH IT

[restive peak]

......he linked you the fuckin pattern for the item you need

[south kayak]

You have to send an enchanter a crafting order so he can make you the enchanted crest

[restive peak]

So you're the 1 not reading

[restive peak]

^

^^^^

[south kayak]

Here

[dreamy flume]

how does that screenshot help me? idk where the fuck that is

or what that is

holy shit

[mossy fox]

just do this someone will surely complete your public order fast

[dreamy flume]

xd

[mossy fox]

we're trying to help you

[restive peak]

The attitude man

[dreamy flume]

feels like you expect me to know stuff

im clearly telling u i dont

so ofc i get frustrated

[restive peak]

You buy the item, you go to the crafting orders person HIS SCREENSHOT SHOWS YOU, you put those items in as a public order

[orchid pike]

o7 fury or arms for m+ now?

[south kayak]

now doesn't matter

[humble plover]

www.google.com

[restive peak]

Then you find a blacksmith who can make the axe at 590, buy the mats, put THAT into the crafting order

[south kayak]

Or the mace

specifically me, the blacksmith

[dreamy flume]

screw this, this system sucks and u guys are not good at explaining

[mossy fox]

see you

[restive peak]

https://tenor.com/view/peach-and-goma-gif-9872673187939618574

[humble plover]

Bro don't ask for people to point out every detail. Google it

[plush ice]

kidna feels like someone was being delibertly obtuse

[humble plover]

Don't wanna Google it? Ask the guard where the crafting order people are. Believe the in game name is artisan consortium

[covert blaze]

do you want us to log into your account and craft the item for you lil buddy?

[south kayak]

lmao

[dreamy flume]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cute-cat-yap-yapper-yapping-gif-5642199211123099306

[restive peak]

No man, he pays us 0$ and we owe him a powerpoint guide, clearly

He's the kid who failed a class with an 85 average and blamed the teacher type

[mossy fox]

he lost his lane because his jungler only ganked 5 times

[stable frost]

....the fuck is going on in here

[humble plover]

He played league

Oh we're just yapping

[south kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/community-gif-23728528

[mossy fox]

[runic cypress]

Every day normal Skyhold discussion

[restive peak]

😂

[humble plover]

Critcake, I need a detailed report on an item I won't care about in 2 weeks on my desk asap

[south kayak]

STAT

[restive peak]

Yeah Crit thought you were a CONTENT CREATOR? WHERES MY CONTENT

[summer quail]

yeah well their jungler ganked 6 times!! jungle diff

[runic cypress]

I need it yesterday

You're a lose cannon Critcake hand over your badge and your weapon

And your other weapon

[mossy fox]

sorry busy downloading beat saber maps

i'll start working on it when it's overdue

[ashen socket]

There is 0 reason to be aggressive with people that are attempting to help you

[south kayak]

What's your favorite Weeknd song?

[rotund ginkgo]

im sayinn

[upbeat sentinel]

It works exactly like it did in DF what crack are you smoking

[runic cypress]

I feel it coming

[upbeat sentinel]

You get an enchanter to make a crest, then get a crafter to make the item you want with the crest

[south kayak]

lmao I had a few 30k gold recipes in my bags without even knowing ICANT

[south kayak]

That's a great one

[rotund ginkgo]

me

[runic cypress]

I know

[rotund ginkgo]

im surprised no one just told him "go to wowhead"

yall entertained his questions

[south kayak]

I think mine is In Your Eyes

or Party Monster

[dreamy flume]

didnt play that trash expansion

[rotund ginkgo]

gonna go to the gym and then mayhaps kill people in bgs :>

[humble plover]

We did say go to wowhead, he doesn't want to leave the game to find the information

[runic cypress]

I prefer the Peter Gabriel version of that

[rotund ginkgo]

dawg just go to wowhead and stop yapping her

here

or maybe next time just be civil

[upbeat sentinel]

there's no way you aren't just trying to get a rise out of people

nobody is this stupid

[rotund ginkgo]

"hey guys, havent played since X expansion, how do i do Y?"

[south kayak]

Never heard of that

[dreamy flume]

stop commenting on what i type, worry about urself 😉

[rotund ginkgo]

he joined disc today he's 100% here to ragebait

go to wowhead

probs a salty mage

https://tenor.com/view/fire-mage-cat-push-bongo-cat-gif-14517434

[runic cypress]

It's a different song altogether just has the same name

[dreamy flume]

and ur a 12 y old kid

stfu

[south kayak]

Oh okay

[upbeat sentinel]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/professions/creating-work-order-crafting-station

[rotund ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/druski-aventurine-hands-up-honkai-star-rail-hsr-gif-1869893939377419546

[runic cypress]

It's good though if you're into that music

[south kayak]

I love the ending of Party Monster, the instrumental changes and the "paranoiiid" @runic cypress

[dense elbow]

We got a new sprout alt account going full troll again?

[dreamy flume]

i gave up, shit system

[rotund ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/soobfad-druski-gif-25646977

[onyx fox]

What in the arms warrior dead memes is going on here

[summer quail]

clearly

[rotund ginkgo]

hi mutou :3

[summer quail]

hi ragish

[rotund ginkgo]

today is pull day

[upbeat sentinel]

Clearly the school system gave up on you 🙂

[south kayak]

hi motou

[rotund ginkgo]

hopefully i finally pull some BITCHES

[summer quail]

hi box

[dreamy flume]

actually true

[south kayak]

hi ragish

[rotund ginkgo]

hi box :>

[south kayak]

hi box

[rotund ginkgo]

hi sanzaya for blue name 2029

[humble plover]

Hi taters

Oh wait that's attention seeking

[upbeat sentinel]

hi Ragish "fury copium"

[rotund ginkgo]

hi taters

[humble plover]

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-bubble-speech-bubble-gif-25905495

[covert blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/the-voices-meme-cat-gif-23917781

[hollow raptor]

is there any flaw in this sim or are these 2 trinkets not the best ones rn?
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/mGm6DPhaug4dTtRP9ZuSH5

[runic cypress]

Party monster is alright, I think I like I feel it coming the most because it has daft punk in it

[sick narwhal]

how did we dodge nerf .. like what

[dense elbow]

Cause we aint that strong

We got burst

[restive peak]

We are mid tier that's why

[dense elbow]

burst looks great in content where things die fast

[restive peak]

My highest sim so far has been 800k

Arcane is 900

[dense elbow]

Our AoE burst sim tho?

hmmm

[rotund ginkgo]

hi swordish

[south kayak]

lmao

[rotund ginkgo]

hi zhai

[restive peak]

An AOE burst sim is the biggest meme I've ever heard

[dense elbow]

The only thing that matters is burst

[south kayak]

xdd

5 second sim

[restive peak]

Lmao

[rotund ginkgo]

real

[restive peak]

"LOOK WE'RE S TIER"

[rotund ginkgo]

"how do u sim m+"
"10 boss 20s"

[dense elbow]

Gotta be 9 sec, for max OF value

[rotund ginkgo]

sadly i think 20 is lowest

[dense elbow]

Nooo...

[restive peak]

xD

[dense elbow]

we are doomed

[rotund ginkgo]

noo its fine its 20s avatar uptime

[south kayak]

big money

[rotund ginkgo]

its perfect

[buoyant salmon]

bro the mage discorf was going ballistic

[dense elbow]

20sec we are beaten by so many tho

[buoyant salmon]

at the thought they are no longer 100k dps above anyone else

[dense elbow]

we only win those few sec of glory

[upbeat sentinel]

3.6s for Bladestorm value

[buoyant salmon]

but the nerf was like a few %

[restive peak]

They're dead ok Choco? They're on #1 by 15% now, not 25, this is BULLSHIT

[desert cloud]

how did u get them even

[south kayak]

LMAO, I find it funny how arcane that sims highest than anyone is mad at nerfs

LIKE WHAT

[rotund ginkgo]

probs tank dungeons

[south kayak]

queueing as a tank

[upbeat sentinel]

Why did frost dk get nerfed

[buoyant salmon]

the nerfs werent even that large

[upbeat sentinel]

IT WAS GOOD FOR ONCE

[rotund ginkgo]

its because the average player cant pull off those sims

:3

ok ok gym time

love u guys xoxo

[dense elbow]

gl hf

[south kayak]

BEcause they were cracked

[rotund ginkgo]

hugs and kisses to every1 except destroy

[south kayak]

Still good

[restive peak]

The arcane nerf was negligible, honestly they're gonna get nerfed again

[upbeat sentinel]

LET THEM BE CRACKED FOR ONCE

[humble plover]

Guys my spec isn't 30% better than everybody else. I'm going to uninstall and cry on forums

[south kayak]

poggers

[restive peak]

Frost DK was also only 2.5%, 6% on AOE, and they're like 15-20% ahead on AOE

[buoyant salmon]

bad way of balancing the game

[restive peak]

The nerfs were insanely tame

[desert cloud]

btw did u guys find any broken trinkets like the drogbar rocks back in df ?

[teal pine]

I made a dk yesterday and was checking their discord when the nerfs dropped

[upbeat sentinel]

so is certain specs being terrible for years at a time

[teal pine]

They were going crazy

[south kayak]

everyone goes crazy at nerfs

lol

[buoyant salmon]

frost dk hasnt been terrible for years though

[restive peak]

I got this, I'm gonna run it

[covert blaze]

[buoyant salmon]

its been pretty mediocre but terrible is a stretch

[desert cloud]

this looks nice

[south kayak]

Nothing has been terrible for a long time since sub rogues in BfA after Uldir

https://tenor.com/view/peace-out-gif-22295199

[restive peak]

Honestly I'm just too lazy to farm my 3rd shard on my main that will have trinkets 3hrs after reset on the 10th, shard is probably still better

[desert cloud]

i had a shadow orb i looted from a chest that gave a lot of primary stats and did dmmg but idk if it’s good

[buoyant salmon]

back to workge

[dense elbow]

You got data on the % uptime yet?

[covert blaze]

why would fury require nerfs

[hollow raptor]

guys can someone look at my sim and tell me if i did something wrong? im getting odd trinkets simming quite high

[restive peak]

Nah cuz it's useless as shit in a few days

[hollow raptor]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/k1UGkjBSSQoR6UMhLTJR7S

[south kayak]

Where's that trinket from

[restive peak]

Rando world drop

[covert blaze]

don't sim, sim are screwed atm

[hollow raptor]

oh, how so?

[dense elbow]

What if it is 100% uptime tho

[covert blaze]

not updated yet

[restive peak]

It'll still be dead once we get 603 😛

[desert cloud]

bcz the api is sus

atm

it vented

[dense elbow]

API never recowered after the OF nerfs for some reason

[hollow raptor]

haha fair, is it safe to say sac and shard are the 2 best trinkets rn?

[restive peak]

Yes

[deep dagger]

is it worth just crafting the 590 blue axe for now?

[runic cypress]

Actually you have a chance to get it from the delve vault row

[restive peak]

I mean sure but you can't target those things

So if they drop and sim well, congrats you're lucky, but stressing about it is a bad road to go down

[dense elbow]

Arcano Crystal 2.0

[runic cypress]

True but you know stuff happens

[humble plover]

Guys, my character has been simming lower than I thought it would and has the wrong talent on. Could you tell me why this happened? Also how do I craft my legendary?

[restive peak]

Also if any rando delve trinket is so good it's better than higher ilvl M+/raid trinks, it'll get nerfed

[dense elbow]

Jokes aside, if they make a RNG Delve drop BiS, I will have a hissy fit

[desert cloud]

???????????

[oblique trail]

Silly little meowster

[humble plover]

Interesting take. Thank you

[desert cloud]

if u run arakara 30 times u get lego drop

then u can trade me 200k gold and i’ll craft it for u

[humble plover]

Bro I'm actually about to when I get home. For that damn bug

[clever belfry]

dont stop meowing

[covert blaze]

that's not even possible given the ilvl i think

[dense elbow]

Ya never know, Drogbar Rocks pumped :<

[desert cloud]

it drops hero

[oblique trail]

meow

[covert blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/meow-gif-24525483

[south kayak]

Delves are pog

I like them a lot

[sullen dove]

hero comes from vault only i thought

just roll a random world trinket in delve vault

w

[desert cloud]

with keys from bountiful u get hero loot they said

[covert blaze]

ik

[sullen dove]

wack

maybe its just like endboss ilvl hero track that is from vault

that im remembering

[humble plover]

No swordish heros come from the heart. You're a hero

[dense elbow]

They should make Delve drop mythic track gear

[desert cloud]

i agree

[desert cloud]

they should also fix the ah or im gonna end up killing someone in game

[dense elbow]

Gotta use it when it aint primetime

too many ppl

[humble plover]

Right here officer

[covert blaze]

good edit

[desert cloud]

i was thinking in game but my body wrote irl

[bitter palm]

not in game

[desert cloud]

that’s how bad i feel abt it

[dense elbow]

I feel ya, trying to buy alt gear, with that lag and "item not found" is true torture

[desert cloud]

im just trynna make gold dude

i’ve been poor for so long

[dense elbow]

You need gold?
Should've skipped early access and bought a token

[covert blaze]

he can't keep getting away with it

[desert cloud]

i didn’t play EA i ain’t a whale

[desert cloud]

not giving blizzard any extra dollars

it should be called late access

[humble plover]

Imagine being poor and jealous

I read that in trade chat on EA day and it's been in my head since

[covert blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/impress-based-american-psycho-very-based-impressive-very-based-gif-21665669

[alpine haven]

Imagine not having a vast network of crafters

smh

[desert cloud]

dumbest shit i heard eu

it’s like the people paying to play star wars early

every single one of them is a dumb brokie

[runic cypress]

Poor and jealous detected

[desert cloud]

sure bud

[humble plover]

Lmao

[alpine haven]

Sounds like a guy who mines for his gold instead of buying a token smh

[desert cloud]

i actually do BS

[dreamy flume]

its costing like 10k+ gold atleast to craft this 590 axe or am i missing something

why is this even worth

[humble plover]

Some would say it's not worth

Like me

[warm crag]

its probably not

[humble plover]

Crafted item for the easiest content? But why?

[warm crag]

go do one key in a few weeks and youll be 10k gold richer

[runic cypress]

It's not

[alpine haven]

craft it

you wont

[humble plover]

Don't craft anything and sandbag your item level so you get bigger upgrades from the raid. Profit

[warm crag]

good advice if you hate prog and your guild

[humble plover]

It's a solo game anyways

[toxic coyote]

What are the best embellished items for m+ this season as Fury

[humble plover]

I believe that's to to be determined still, they could change the balancing on them

[desert cloud]

the wpn one is what wowhead says

[toxic coyote]

ty

[desert cloud]

i'm wondering what's up with food this xpac

do we not get any primary stat food ?

or is the secondary one even better

[stark cove]

yo guys is it worth crafting a weapon or should I craft something else?

[stable frost]

This guy gets it

[modest condor]

the weapon one is definitely not what you want for m+

see #fury message for explanation

[stable frost]

Gross

[south kayak]

yucky

[restive peak]

If you raid a shitton, do the wep+nerub and by the time prog is over, you'll have the 2 duskweave or w/e anyway

If you raid just to gear for M+, craft the other 1s

You'll eventually have all 4

Also worry about this in 10 days when it matters

Lol

[willow cradle]

Symbiosis is also a decent in-between no?

[restive peak]

It got nerfed

My thought is even for high M+, I can see ascend winning cuz tyrann bosses and longer pulltimes

[willow cradle]

Ah rip Symbiosis

[crisp bronze]

@desert cloud only primary stat food I saw was personal maybe there's a fest I didn't see

[viral jasper]

Binding of binding bad?

[desert cloud]

the only primary food i found after maxing cooking was the feasts

[trail tendon]

anyone got a wa to track sudden death procs

ideally one with a sound que or some shit

[brittle crow]

hmmmmmmmmmmm

does anyone else see the problem here

[viral jasper]

How high it go

[winter horizon]

the name is greathelm but its a shoulders piece

[brittle crow]

yea. wtf

[winter horizon]

weird af

[thin cliff]

would be sick if it looked like a helmet

[late vapor]

Does it make sense to macro avatar and reck together?

[brittle crow]

no

[restive peak]

I mean, yes as long as you have a separate reck button

[brittle crow]

if you do that then you cant reck - charge - avatar

[restive peak]

It makes it simpler during a fight after the opener to have 1 less button

[late vapor]

i gedit, thx

[valid pulsar]

how can i get the weapon enchant "Autority of the Depths" ?

[restive peak]

I have a "1 shot macro", and a separate keybind for just reck

[junior gale]

Same

[valid pulsar]

is it exclusive for enchanters or not available yet ?

[restive peak]

And I use the 1 shot macro always, just use reck for the reck+charge opener

[trail tendon]

yall playing AM? or or is everyone doing reckless abandon

[winter horizon]

what benefit is it to reck then charge?

[junior gale]

To guarantee enough rage for rampage

[restive peak]

RA

[dense elbow]

RA and AM, RA is my prefered M+ style, more omphf

[mossy fox]

charge generates rage, recklessness doubles rage gen

reck (with RA) charge alone gives enough rage for rampage

[valid pulsar]

is it true that raging blow or crushing blow has higher prio than bloodthirst or bloodbath ?

[brittle crow]

no

[junior gale]

Yes

[valid pulsar]

lol

[brittle crow]

crushing blow > bloodbath > raging blow > bloodthirst in st

bloodbath > crushing blow > bloodthirst > raging blow in aoe

actually crushing blow might still outprio in aoe

[junior gale]

It does

[brittle crow]

but if u have neither then u send bt, i think

[junior gale]

CB is your highest dmg ability

[restive peak]

You will basically always send both every ramp anyway, in the initial opener it is a slight DPS increase to Ramp>CB>Ramp>CB>BB

[brittle crow]

BB is highest dmg in aoe if it procs reap

which it will

because i dont get unlucky

[junior gale]

Then it doesn't crit cuz you didn't get that extra 15%

[valid pulsar]

i see. if i have max rage i still send CB instead of ramp ?

[junior gale]

Yes always spend your RA charges

Before ramp

[restive peak]

You can send CB 1st even in AOE and the extra crit will likely lead to an increase, you will in theory send the same amount of CB/BBs no matter which you prio anyway

[valid pulsar]

even bloodbath > ramp if max rage ?

[brittle crow]

yes

[valid pulsar]

alright thank you

[icy berry]

what should be the first craft?

[restive peak]

With spark?

Sit on it til the 10th

[icy berry]

alr ty

[restive peak]

Np homie

[valid pulsar]

is droptimizer already ready for current stuff ?

or not worth simming yet

for pre raid bis gear xD

[brittle crow]

whats causing me to get 2 slayers strikes in a row sometime
visual bug? can it proc itself?

[restive peak]

I wouldn't stress pre raid gear

580s are fine if you're going into normal/m0s day 1, can craft the 590s for "bis", it will ALL be replaced by the end of the week

The ilvl jump ensures any item you have going into it will lose to ilvl anyways

We did the heroic beta raid tests at 580ilvl and it was fairly simple, so you can go with either direction and be ready

[junior gale]

Day 1 tier 8 delves is where it's gonna be at

[restive peak]

Ye log on > delves w keys > m0 stonevault+ara kara at minimum pre raid

[junior gale]

I'm curious how hard their gonna be with 580 gear

[restive peak]

I mean if you're a mid mythic guild or lower, probably a bit of a struggle

Top guilds are going to buzzsaw the 1st 5, probably a few wipes on 6/7, then queen who knows

[valid pulsar]

but why not upgrade past 580 with withered crests. i don think they have any other use except maybe lfr gear

[restive peak]

So the withereds can be used to craft the 590s

But if you're gonna skip crafting, yeah send em

[junior gale]

I was referring to delves I don't think the raid will be an issue

[restive peak]

They're literally a dead crest

Ohhhh the 8 delves will be fine, there's no timer etc so it should be easy

[junior gale]

We got week 1 aotc no issues all DF

[valid pulsar]

oh yeah i forgot about the 590 craftings

[junior gale]

Our guild is opting out of using weathered crests for the time being and use them as bad luck protection to upgrade whatever gear we don't get in day 1 m0s and delves

[remote badger]

how's fury dps boys? its over sin rogue? i like warrior more but i also like dps xD

[south kayak]

not a big diff

[valid pulsar]

[rapid whale]

Uh is fury or arms dpsing better?

Too dumb to figure it out

[junior gale]

Doesn't matter who does better DPS in heroic dungeons.

[rapid whale]

True, thought theres some beta raid info floating around

Maybe maybe

[junior gale]

As far as raid and M+ goes their both really close

[rapid whale]

Im a sucker for arms

Yea just noticed some furys doing sum crazy numbers

Whereas my damage was more consistent than spikey

[junior gale]

Arms slightly ahead in pure ST but there's not many pure ST fights

[rapid whale]

Nah there sure aint

[junior gale]

Rn it doesn't matter

[rapid whale]

Ye just enjoying the content for now

[junior gale]

Fury is all about burst so ofc when mobs die in 5 seconds their gonna do crazy dmg

[brittle snow]

Whats the go to zones for lvling from 20-60?

[idle crown]

I simmed my warrior and it's saying my highest dps is with the Mace + Sword, but due to ilvl I would think it would be the Mace + Polearm. Anyone know why?

[junior gale]

Sim apls are not updated yet

[quick zodiac]

Doing thane as Fury is also very consistent in aoe tbh

[junior gale]

They should be updated relatively soon tho

[violet condor]

are there any training dummies in dornogol?

[brittle crow]

yea

go to the pvp vendors

[junior gale]

Big open area south of the crafters

[violet condor]

thanks ❤️

[fallow oracle]

anyone tested this larynx trinket?

seems pretty nuts

it sits at like 2-3 stacks most of the time which is 1376 or 2064 strength, it overlapped at 5 stacks one time and i pressed the on use and it did 2.7 mil damage

[sullen cloak]

Yes I am finding that trinket amazing 💪

[untold lynx]

do you not need to run sudden death if you're slayer?

[candid falcon]

nope

execute isnt really tuned all that well, so sayeth the theorycrafters

[junior gale]

exe is piss weak and the Slayer talent that gives you SD works without it soo

SD is not needed

[valid pulsar]

How do I tell that it has been updated?

[tribal flint]

Crushing blow over execute?

[valid pulsar]

does it show the current state of the sims apls somewhere ?

[fickle bluff]

ill let you in on a little secret

switch to latest

[mint sphinx]

Fury feels sooo good in TWW, but god damn it, why are my BIS weapons locked behind the worst dungeon in the game 😦

[junior gale]

Bladestorm pressed 1 time as Slayer hmmmm

[junior gale]

ohhhhhh

[junior gale]

Im not a sim wiz idk how to do that. Where button

[fickle bluff]

unlucky

[junior gale]

wait

found it

[fickle bluff]

you wont be able to sim till its pushed to weekly

dangit

[junior gale]

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[coarse moon]

should i be using whirlwind on 2 targets or stay with single target rotation?

[fickle bluff]

true and real

[fickle bluff]

yes

[coarse moon]

ty 🙂

[fickle bluff]

you should cleave

[gaunt cipher]

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[delicate thicket]

facts

[latent hedge]

excellent work my good friend.

[teal pine]

yo

[fickle bluff]

@young swan wanna mute for 5m while the cat sleeps on keyboard

[rotund ginkgo]

can any1 check if music is too loud on stream? :3

[marble schooner]

some guy in youtube did the math and I think we can spend like 4 coffer keys before season start is that right?

[upbeat sentinel]

I’d still just stockpile. Why does he think we can spend 4 before?

[storm rune]

immediately rolls 5 shoulder pieces in a row

[valid pulsar]

there must be something broken still. when i compare trinkets with top gear it shows nothing is an upgrade (i have the egg and shard right now) but when i do droptimizer it shows that the trinket from darkflame is a 6000dps increase but it does not show that when i use top gear to compare them since i have it already. all sims on latest.

[modest condor]

y'all are more degen with this whole tryharding irrelevant shit than the actual theorycrafters

[rotund ginkgo]

sil!

stop saying true things!!

[upbeat sentinel]

I have to minmax content that’s essentially impossible to fail!!!!!

[junior gale]

Bazed silmarilen

[valid pulsar]

it is insane how much you care. if people want to minmax irelevant shit and have fun doing it let them who cares. it doesnt harm anyone

there is literally nothing else i can do

[modest condor]

bro

[valid pulsar]

i even did all the achievments and /love pets man am looking for stuff to do right now 😄

[modest condor]

the apl wasnt even updated for tww until 2 hours ago

people have been simming for days on an apl that's wrong

[junior gale]

[upbeat sentinel]

Imagine simming in heroic dungeon gear

[valid pulsar]

[modest condor]

[junior gale]

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[summer bobcat]

is AH messed up for yall too

cant even buy gear

[modest condor]

yes

has been for like 2 days now

[summer bobcat]

i was lucky enough to buy em quick on main

but goddamn cant do shit on alts now

[dawn dove]

We use arms spec loot?

[modest condor]

yes

[dawn dove]

Ok ty

[storm rune]

I started simming the diff between 2 571 blue rings

that's when I decided I needed to go get some sunshine

[errant vessel]

to what extent? Like that the APL hasn’t considered slayer SD procs till now or?

[modest condor]

for example yes, it was using the prepatch apl so none of the hero talent stuff was implemented

thane just straight up wasnt using tclap/blast

[buoyant pier]

what sim are yall using? asking for a friend

[modest condor]

raidbots

[buoyant pier]

tyty.

[restive otter]

What are the pros and cons of using thane vs slayer? Or is there a resource I can look at that breaks it down

[errant vessel]

The Wowhead hero talent breakdown covers it pretty well

[young swan]

thane does slightly more aoe at the cost of ~20% less ST