#fury

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balmy shore
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this is objectively YELLOW

covert blaze
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jackie owns

covert blaze
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bro could have said golden at least instead of orange

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cooked

runic cypress
dense elbow
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I will just say his perception is that he experiences orange, as such we are all correct

balmy shore
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true i should not judge color blindness

dense elbow
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Ofc ofc, hunnybun, whatever you say

modest condor
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that's clearly purple

twin glacier
sullen dove
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ughnnnnnnnnnnnn

brittle crow
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can confirm u can bandage sun king

junior gale
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the great Odyns Fury color debate

covert blaze
sullen dove
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guh

junior gale
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peak

twin glacier
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There’s nothing to debate. Compare the skill icon to something orange, like maybe an orange. Even as someone who’s colorblind u can see the difference. It’s like 50 shades of grey

sullen dove
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?

covert blaze
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erm

burnt kelp
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Its a little orange

balmy shore
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it’s a little orange but it’s primarily yellow

twin glacier
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Yes as orange as a banana

glad mural
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Looks grey to me

balmy shore
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i would associate that with yellow

burnt kelp
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No its not banana yellow at all

modest condor
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because that's what they said

burnt kelp
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I will not stand for this

sullen dove
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🍊

glad mural
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That's a grey ball with a stick stuck to it

dapper goblet
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its orange

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dumb and bad if disagree

dense elbow
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Ya guys going to have a fit when I see green

glad mural
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Orange or an orange ?

covert blaze
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bornana

burnt kelp
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Anyway why do you want to nerf odyny, xeos

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What has he ever done to you

balmy shore
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i would have been more ok if u said brown xeos

dense elbow
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Cause it is op on 8 sec fights

modest condor
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brown is just dark orange

burnt kelp
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I am also op in 8 sec fights

covert blaze
modest condor
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also it's neither brown nor orange

burnt kelp
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Thats why he and I get along so well

balmy shore
burnt kelp
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Talking about that

balmy shore
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the dark parts are brown

storm rune
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It's clearly tea coloured

burnt kelp
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Daily reminder to bring back legion arms

balmy shore
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the light parts are yellow

burnt kelp
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I know someone important will read me some day and do it

runic cypress
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It's obviously blue and black what is wrong with you guys

dense elbow
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Same day as OF gets buffed back to being strong

twin glacier
# balmy shore

sRGBB (r, g, b)
(255, 239, 0) these colorcoordinates are as yellow as u can get.
If he picked the color picker does what I think it should. Than it’s peak yellow

burnt kelp
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🟡

storm rune
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peak yellow

balmy shore
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i opened photoshop and color picked it if that’s what you’re saying

burnt kelp
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The best yellow in the world

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Simpsons yellow

storm rune
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Minmaxing the colourwheel

dense elbow
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Let's just ignore that the sample was handpicked ye?

twin glacier
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It’s the best discussion in a long time I’ve had

twin glacier
balmy shore
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it’s in the screenshot!!!! the pick is from the image!!!

burnt kelp
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I feel you, Guild Wars man

balmy shore
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i work in design!!!!!

burnt kelp
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Guild wars has let us down

dense elbow
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I require a full breakdown of the colour coding, or you talking hoshwash

burnt kelp
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Guild wars 3 when

twin glacier
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True

balmy shore
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the hex code is right there

dense elbow
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All of it

storm rune
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It's starting to look like Creme brulee to me

dense elbow
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Not your sample pick

modest condor
burnt kelp
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Hell yeah

dense elbow
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See

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Orange

burnt kelp
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New theorycrafting is out

balmy shore
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I CHOSE THE CENTER

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THE PROMINENT COLOR

dapper goblet
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wrong and dumb

dense elbow
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The highlight

dapper goblet
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and dumb again

burnt kelp
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Xeos was correct, this was all slander on his character

balmy shore
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gn

modest condor
dense elbow
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Jackie fleeing after called out

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Smh

balmy shore
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that’s a SHADOW

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THATS NOT A MAIN COLOR!!!!

brittle crow
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proof

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?

balmy shore
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EYEBALLS

covert blaze
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there's 5 pixels of orange in this 95% yellow image

modest condor
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you're a shadow

balmy shore
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i am jackie

burnt kelp
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If you think about it, orange is a middle ground between brown and yellow

modest condor
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hi jackie

burnt kelp
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And the Sword is brown and yellow

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Therefore its orange

dense elbow
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Eyeballs can't be trusted, only data. Data said orange

covert blaze
burnt kelp
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🍊

dapper goblet
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pretty orange

twin glacier
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NO

dense elbow
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Orange 🍊

twin glacier
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It’s gold

balmy shore
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is odyns fury based on the artifact weapon?

covert blaze
balmy shore
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today i learned

modest condor
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hey apple

brittle crow
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WHAT DO U MEAN U JUST LEARNED IT

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odyns fury IS the artifact weapon

modest condor
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wanna hear the most annoying sound in the world

balmy shore
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idk i started playing in sl

covert blaze
balmy shore
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idk legion man

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u guys are old

dapper goblet
storm rune
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Taking a sample of precisely the core of the icon and enlarging, we can see these pixels

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Confirmed orange

dense elbow
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Seems pretty orange to me yo

twin glacier
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Clearly forged screenshot

burnt kelp
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I miss legion

balmy shore
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it’s yellow i’m team yellow of

tiny flax
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odd question.. does anyone else sense a delay between inputs and damage numbers poppin? its throwin me off a bit :p

burnt kelp
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Even if I hate legion

twin glacier
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Can tell by the pixel cuz I know them all

dapper goblet
modest condor
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i definitely do

balmy shore
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you already voodoo me

modest condor
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after what you did to us in sepulcher

twin glacier
balmy shore
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it’s all good

covert blaze
dusky moon
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man

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I fucking love this discord

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ty for proving my point

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half an hour arguing over the color yellow

runic cypress
balmy shore
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i blame xeos

dense elbow
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Shush it green man, yellow and orange only

tiny flax
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ah shit, sorry ofcourse how silly of me @twin glacier 😄

burnt kelp
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What was your point, that warrior players are dumb ?

runic violet
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That's possible

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I'm dumb

twin glacier
burnt kelp
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Way too late on that observation buddy

twin glacier
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Look at my face that’s orange

dense elbow
dusky moon
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I had to remove my idiot warriors comment in my guide because warriors yelled at me

covert blaze
modest condor
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if OF is orange then ER is red

glad mural
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Wish I could read

storm rune
burnt kelp
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True warriors know themselves to be fools

balmy shore
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instead of idiot warriors u should put in cool warriors

modest condor
dense elbow
balmy shore
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the other classes are stinky… confirmed… i’ve seen it myself…

dusky moon
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lmao

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I love you guys

brittle crow
dusky moon
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if I ever resub to wow, ill play fury warrior

balmy shore
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siegebreaker is orange of is yellow

strong zephyr
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This is just proof that 2 weeks of no content is no bueno @blizzard

balmy shore
brittle crow
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wtf larias (larias season 1 gearing guide) isnt even subbed to wow??

covert blaze
balmy shore
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look at that thing

runic cypress
covert blaze
burnt kelp
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Siegebreaker is red

fallen pivot
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wtf are warrior sims

dusky moon
balmy shore
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it’s orange

dense elbow
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That is clearly red

burnt kelp
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How dare you

dusky moon
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@brittle crow

brittle crow
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based

fleet sorrel
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@sullen dove

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you good?

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3rd name change in 2 days

cyan turtle
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has there been any sims with the new allied race?

balmy shore
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today i also learned that fury warrior players are just COLORBLIND

sullen dove
fleet sorrel
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right..

sullen dove
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one of the local legends is actually impossible

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at high AR

burnt kelp
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Perhaps it is you that is colorblind

fleet sorrel
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cap

sullen dove
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maybe if you spent 50k on the game

runic cypress
twin glacier
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What about charge

burnt kelp
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Because thats red

sullen dove
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you need to kill a like 15mil hp boss in like 20 seconds

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unless theres some mech i dont know

balmy shore
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charge is red

twin glacier
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How is siegebrealer close to the color of charge

modest condor
sullen dove
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tru

balmy shore
sullen dove
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xiangling basically does that

runic cypress
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Charge is actually silver because it's a sword

covert blaze
burnt kelp
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You guys are cooked

dense elbow
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Btw, isn't charge like white?

storm rune
twin glacier
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It’s white right, cuz of his theeth

runic cypress
modest condor
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we need to rename purpleface to pinkface

sullen dove
# fleet sorrel cap

but i joined a random low ar world after like 15 ppl declined me and 1shot it for achieve lol, almost feelbad cheating but as far as im aware it wouldve actually been unobtainable

twin glacier
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What the f is akin

sullen dove
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the second one for cocijo lmk how it goes for u

twin glacier
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Er only now basic color circle here

dense elbow
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Similar to

fleet sorrel
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ill try it in a few

sullen dove
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well if u havent killed it yet youll only get first achieve since that ones daily

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but 2nd one is the shitter

runic cypress
storm rune
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Yeah suddenly two pop up and our IQs drop in half and we take over voice chat

sullen dove
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pop off oomfie

burnt kelp
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Its a blessing and a curse to be the dumb class

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Like how every zerk would perma tank the floor in Lost ark

runic violet
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lol

burnt kelp
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Damn I thought warrior was the warrior class of ff14

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But its actually dragoon

storm rune
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Find me a warrior who isn't the charismatic one in the guild, our support spec should be bard

burnt kelp
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Rogue already has bard on a lock I'm afraid

runic cypress
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Someone said my personality is akin to a sliced pineapple

burnt kelp
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Or maybe hunter with a bow

storm rune
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bro we're so close to being bards already, we just need to learn to hold a note while we battle shout

burnt kelp
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Someone once told me I had a face made for radio

storm rune
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turn our axes in to axes

runic cypress
burnt kelp
runic cypress
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The existential crisis of being a warrior main

burnt kelp
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The secret is to have an alt

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I switch between big brain and small brain to keep the game fresh

runic cypress
storm rune
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i wonder if that story has ended yet

runic cypress
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"I don't wanna be top DPS anymore, I just want to be happy"

gleaming crag
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why do the consumables have conflicting information ?

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one says flask of tempered mastery and the other says alchemical chaos

runic cypress
young swan
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not the place brother

covert blaze
runic cypress
covert blaze
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I keep getting dc'd while making weakauras

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I'm gonna explode

runic cypress
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Make them offline

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No DC's

iron portal
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Some consider to be...unnatural

runic cypress
iron portal
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Not from a degenerate

runic cypress
sullen dove
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im so gutscore

iron portal
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hey he is literally me

runic cypress
runic cypress
violet thorn
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hey guys, just learning fury

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do you cast rampage just before enrage runs out or let it drain completely?

runic cypress
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Fun fact when Patrick Bateman talks about returning VHS tapes he's talking about bootleg Berserk OVAs

sullen dove
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you will most often recast ramp with plenty of seconds left in enrage

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but basically hit rampage, then u wanna hit bb cb before ramp again

violet thorn
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So as long as youve hit both cb and bb already you can ramp again, even if already enraged?

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Is ramp off gcd?

eternal sundial
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Rerolling (i need tier)

covert blaze
burnt kelp
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I wasnt worthy

fleet sorrel
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@sullen dove k now what

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do i wait for the reset

fresh creek
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soo guuuys question exxeccutee is ittnrly tthaat loow onn the prio liist

slim coral
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yes it's that low on the prio list

sullen dove
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6 of them you click on a totem and go to like an instance and that u can retry as many times as u want

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think the trio, cocijo, sappho and baccho are overworld ones

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Trio fuckin annoying too but just cuz they like randomly 1shot you if you get hit by anything

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Don’t think actually attaining any of their achieves is a problem tho

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will see after I get second of theirs tomorrow what the third is

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first kill bugged out for me yesterday so only got it today

delicate yacht
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okay i got two 590 weapons, sacbrood 593 and skarmorak shard 593, can't wait to replace it all within hours of season 1

marsh dock
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is this priority right for MT? BT seems to hit harder than RB and also can proc Thunder Blast. Surprised to see it so low on prio

sullen dove
delicate yacht
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hahaha

marsh dock
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what's himothy weird

marsh dock
covert blaze
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You don't look at the stacks really

south kayak
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Morning

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zhai

covert blaze
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cb just hits harder than bb and it will buff bbs so it's good to prio cb over bb

marsh dock
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i don't look at any of my buffs. I just make a WA for all of them lol

covert blaze
marsh dock
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i guess i was just overvaluing BT procing TB

covert blaze
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It's not like cb>bb will delay bb much anyway

marsh dock
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yeah lol

vital sonnet
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Damn is our burst aoe really soft capped outside of bladestorm

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That sucks ass

edgy widget
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bladestorm is also soft capped keks

clever belfry
slim coral
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soft capped and we still insta die on opener LETSGOOO

clever belfry
slim coral
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🟫

clever belfry
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(unlike OF and Roar)

edgy widget
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pop quiz - which Warrior abilities aren't soft capped?

clever belfry
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don't tell me its ww

edgy widget
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@slim coral you're up

slim coral
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unless that got changed

clever belfry
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ww cleave cause its hard capped (not soft cap)

slim coral
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ww cleave as well

edgy widget
slim coral
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when did roar get get capped

edgy widget
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during the beta

clever belfry
slim coral
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damn didn't know

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missed that note

edgy widget
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but there's one ability that's still not soft capped

clever belfry
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OF and roar not mentioning it in tooltip is criminal honestly

slim coral
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hmm Of dot?

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idk

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just guessing now

outer umbra
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what a giga chad alpha male

young swan
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only one i can think of is ww

edgy widget
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Whirlwind is soft capped at 5 targets, and WW cleave is hard capped at 5 as well

clever belfry
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bring back legion ww (it was kinda silly to hurt just press it on high targets)

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wooshwoosh

edgy widget
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Thunder Clap kinda is that tbh

clever belfry
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i dont get wooshwoosh sound

sullen dove
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reap

clever belfry
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Time to rip out tclap soundfile from the data files and make a WA that goes whoosh woosh

edgy widget
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you get the kerBLAST-kshshshsh sound

edgy widget
summer quail
sullen dove
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Shockwave

edgy widget
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that's one! There's one more

sullen dove
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Doesn’t do shit for dmg anyway no way it has a cap to make it do less

tired mica
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Phowl

sullen dove
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that don’t do dmg

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psure

clever belfry
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(real)

sullen dove
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real

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Bring it back

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Seismic reverb mayb but eh

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not much more aoe shit

clever belfry
edgy widget
sullen dove
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pf

clever belfry
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arms isnt a real spec

summer quail
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oh i was thinking only fury abilities

sullen dove
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who plays arms

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In fury channel

vital sonnet
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I was gonna say cleave

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Zamn

edgy widget
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hey hey, I said Warrior ability

sullen dove
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Cleave too good

vital sonnet
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Is cleave still a thing

sullen dove
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for arms ya

south kayak
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Cleave is capped

edgy widget
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cleave is soft capped

summer quail
vital sonnet
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I'm gonna self immolate in protest of soft aoe caps

edgy widget
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stream it wuss

south kayak
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Enha shamans got aoe capped on tempest yday

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F

sullen dove
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funny how we’re supposed to be soft capped yet when I pull 8 mil dps on the first room of cinderbrew I still get 1shot by aggro

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smh

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Uncap tank threat

edgy widget
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soft capped just means damage starts getting split, but you're still hitting more targets

edgy widget
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hard capped is when you stop hitting beyond X targets

sullen dove
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Ya

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don’t think many tanks have enough aoe buttons

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Like tclap on pwar feels good

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Pretty reliable “you’re gonna get threat”

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don’t think enough tanks have that kinda instant response shit tho

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“Yea lemme drop consecration”

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Only aoe dmg ppals do coming to my mind like that is shield of righteous maybe, or like the spinny hammer thing too perhaps

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point is reduce warrior dps threat gains thanks

south kayak
sullen dove
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Already did it to evokers…

slim coral
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actually

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sorry was in a heroic key

south kayak
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heroic key

sullen dove
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heroic key

summer quail
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heroic key

south kayak
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I wonder if devastation is fun

ornate gust
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So we now WW before bladestorm to cleave BB?

clever belfry
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unhinged BTs do not cleave

young swan
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heroic key

clever belfry
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go bed xantager

young swan
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i prob should

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need to wait and see if grom loses his comp stomp first

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he gets banned from skyhold if he loses

clever belfry
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Gg

slim coral
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the ai has 3

clever belfry
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get aimed shot for half ur hp

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really cool

clever shore
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which is better for m+ Anger Management or ‍Reckless Abandon

clever belfry
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AM maybe potentially more aoe but who cares

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RA good

clever shore
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oki thx!!

south kayak
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I have seen plenty of buffs for just one spec in the yesterday's tuning post

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surely they can do that for thane clueless

ornate gust
south kayak
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That's outdated

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It doesn't anymore

ornate gust
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I see. Thank you

ornate gust
south kayak
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It's all updated except for that one section so you're gonna be fine

summer quail
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it was a last minute change that unhinged no longer cleave. pretty sure the guide was long completed before they made the change

south kayak
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yep

sturdy ermine
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do we just fully swap clap for whirl if playing MT?

slim coral
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it does it automatically

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when you play MT

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TC fully replaces WW on your bars

sturdy ermine
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hmm mine didnt for some reason

slim coral
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let me swap to my warrior one sec

edgy widget
slim coral
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maybe I'm stupid

edgy widget
slim coral
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I thought it did lol so my fault

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I think I'm thinking of cleave

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weird it should replace it

edgy widget
sturdy ermine
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thank you for the help

ornate gust
edgy widget
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theoretically yes, you may extremely infrequently find yourself with everything on cooldown and be able to throw out a Whirlwind

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but it's so rare, I don't bother to keep the keybind on my bars

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you could also just cycle charge during that time if you wanted to

scenic sierra
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is there any spark gear we can craft for fury this week?

south kayak
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Trying to buy something from the AH but can't this is scuffed

iron portal
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AH is true endgane this expac

keen nimbus
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is it worth crafting weapon already with spark if your not a hardcore raider ?

iron portal
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I mean sure, generally weapon is best investment if you are really itching to use spark

keen nimbus
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or would u rather craft the bracers already

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since weap can be dropped from 1st boss

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and if you consider bis list in the end, the bracers are crafted

slim coral
south kayak
slim coral
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I would suggest reading the embellishment section under dps-faq

keen nimbus
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i will right away

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ty

keen mountain
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how are fury to play and the rotation? first time i play fury warrior now

thick ether
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is the legendary weapon this xpansion only the two handed sword ?

south kayak
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Any BS here knows why Profaned Tinderbox is so expensive?

mortal warren
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Hard to find

slim coral
south kayak
slim coral
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unless I missed some short of annoucement

neon ingot
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any idea what the exploit for rep is ?

silent hornet
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For weaver?

neon ingot
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yea

silent hornet
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Have 3 accounts

clever belfry
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pay more money

neon ingot
iron portal
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Dont discuss exploits here preferably keks

silent hornet
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Rep is battle net account wide so pay for 3 wow accounts and do all 3 quests at same time

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I assumed they fixed it

neon ingot
silent hornet
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I mean if you want to invest that much money and time for a little bit of extra rep that doesn’t matter at all unless you’re world first raider go for it

iron portal
silent hornet
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yeah im not even sure if its really an "exploit" per say

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a non exploit way to farm rep but still extremely time consuming is to level alts and do the bountiful delves with keys

clever belfry
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definetly an exploit

slim coral
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it's an exploit and they've already rolled back peoples reps from what dan said

south kayak
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Open now

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I’m pretty sure it rolls it when you get it

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But I could be wrong

silk wharf
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That is also what I believe is true. Boxes roll your loot when you obtain them. if you want to "hold" a box you need to leave the task incomplete whether its a wq you can go back and top off or a quest, such as the weekly, not turned in.

gloomy loom
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What’s better to craft, axes or swords as weapon?

slim coral
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doesnt matter tbh

fading sky
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Sword is always the answer

summer quail
fading sky
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Axes are for orcs and weaklings

lost saffron
summer quail
lost saffron
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Depends on what you want to craft

royal crater
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how to get decent weapons without crafting, no lucky in dungs 😦

narrow narwhal
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Dungs

royal crater
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that polearm from darkflame cleft is nightmare, didnt saw any

iron portal
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Anybody knows how does concentration work with professions?

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How does it renew

rigid stirrup
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I just went prot and zugged my way into insta ques and routed so I get it down in under 10 minutes

molten wing
iron portal
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But it doesnt specify the rate with which it does so

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I think i found reddit post that says 10 per hour

lost saffron
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Neither

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You swap them out heroic week

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No

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xD

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How long do you think you keep the items you get right now

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Everything you receive right now except for the omen crafted items will be swapped out like 1 day into heroic

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wait what am I missing

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Post your gear

summer quail
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i think you two are talking about different heroics. think Toph means heroic raid and you mean dungeons

lost saffron
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Oh yeah

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heroic week is generally referred to as the week where heroic raid releases

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Are you crafting 590 items?

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If so you want to upgrade the slots you dont craft it

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thats literally all there is to it

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I mean its gear and you save crests

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but you spend gold

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depends on what you value more and what you want to do

orchid tapir
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If i was to use addon to play fury warrior how will it help me (GSE) ?

lost saffron
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What is GSE?

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No it costs lfr crests

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which you pretty much can freely spend since you already get 10 items

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you can already craft 10 590 items

orchid tapir
lost saffron
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Yeah idk bro

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it wont help you get better

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all it does is make it easy at the cost of performance

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so you just do what you want to do

orchid tapir
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idk cause of carpal tunnel hence why im going arms

lost saffron
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Read what the talent does

summer quail
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we get free sudden deaths from slayer without the talent

lost saffron
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It does not synergize with the talent

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at all

edgy widget
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Imminent Demise triggers Sudden Death without the talent

lost saffron
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You will get 3 sudden deaths between every bladestorm anyways

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All good that was a proper question at least

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UwU

edgy widget
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tbf, it is inconsistent behavior - generally those types of things do require the talent they're triggering

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but it's blizz so, ya know, they're very consistent at being inconsistent

lost saffron
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consistency

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with how things are worded/done

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xD

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I feel the wordings are getting better though

coarse nest
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Best part about slam is it does no damage with or without talents

lost saffron
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Its totally fine to get reduction

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in dungeon content

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It does damage

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But its mainly used for the healing

bitter palm
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1 point of armored to the teeth is just a lot more consistnet

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since its passive

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troar cdr is good in aoe if u get to send on cd

lost saffron
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Most likely in dungeons people will play the cooldown reduction

bitter palm
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doubt it

bitter palm
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on st it sucks

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compared to attt

glad escarp
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Alright my fury friends. I have a question. What would you guys recommend for my 4-5 pieces of 590 gear? And are we still Haste Mastery gamers?

hard widget
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ATTT is better for prio dmg and usually just better as a whole

lost saffron
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Oh yeah

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if you push

glad escarp
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I was thinking weapons. But i was also thinking of just filling out slots that are necessary

lost saffron
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definitely

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It is like 2500 strength you lose with current gear

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In current dungeons I would 100% say that tr does more overall

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but then again thats also very niche content

hard widget
coarse nest
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Helm shoulders chest legs comes from renown so I’d craft the other remaining slots

lost saffron
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its not something you can sim

hard widget
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If you look at ur overall dmg throughout dungeons having that extra mainstat on EVERYTHING adds up very fast. If you miss ur roar, or dont send em very well u’ll lose dmg very quickly

lost saffron
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But for prio damage etc. I definitely agree

hard widget
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Thats why

bitter palm
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wdym u cant sim it

lost saffron
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If you miss ur roar

bitter palm
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sims favor uproar

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and it loses

lost saffron
#

?

hard widget
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Sims are not up to date

lost saffron
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How do you sim m+?

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accurately

coarse nest
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You sim hypothetical scenarios

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1T 3minute
5 target 1 minute

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Etc

hard widget
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Its the same debate as merciless bonegrinder on Arms. Its pad vs prio

lost saffron
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Yeh exactly

hard widget
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End of the day everyone will play prio

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Nobody will play pad, cuz its grief

lost saffron
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On higher content you will definitely play prio

glad escarp
hard widget
lost saffron
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in higher content where the type of damage you are doing becomes very relevant definitely not

bitter palm
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all im saying is that uproar is objectively worse

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attt is just busted

lost saffron
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Thats just factually untrue

bitter palm
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how

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highest simming 5t is without uproar

lost saffron
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5t?

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What percentage of a m+ dungeon do you have 5t

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how is that anywhere close to representative?

bitter palm
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we dont have algethar

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this season

hard widget
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Let me put it like this, in a lot of dungeons unless u go for giga count pulls (which doesnt really happen) its better to run ATTT because its passive, doesnt require u to play it well. And you get more prio. Making the dungeon overal dmg better. If you dont play high count pulls, or cant get ur roar out insta everytime u lose dmg

hard widget
hard widget
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Mists

lost saffron
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Yeh but thats not what I was saying

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Guy gives 5t sim as an example

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like its representative for anything

hard widget
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Half the dungeon in grim batol is 5 target, much like the entire maze in mists

lost saffron
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That is true but it only being half the dungeon is already making the 5t sim very inaccurate

bitter palm
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okay go run 8t and u will see the difference is nothing

lost saffron
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No because 8t is also not representative

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you clearly are not understanding what I am saying

hard widget
bitter palm
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what is then

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if ATTT

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is winning

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at 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 targets

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and uproar needs 8+ to barely gain an edge

lost saffron
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What type of sim do you run

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5 targets what

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5 minutes?

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3 minutes?

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45 seconds?

bitter palm
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yes which favors uproar since u send on cd

hard widget
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Sims are not up to date guys

lost saffron
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also that

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How do you represent m+ pulls in a sim

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you simply cannot do that

hard widget
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Its not even that

bitter palm
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its not that deep

hard widget
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Sims are just literally not up to date

lost saffron
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All you can do is make educated guesses based on different types of input

hard widget
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Has nothing to do with m+

lost saffron
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Yes ofc

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But even if sims were up to date you cannot do that

hard widget
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The educated guesses come from people that have tested on beta tho, and from archi himself

lost saffron
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Yes exactly

bitter palm
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its behind on 10t too

hard widget
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Based on numbers

bitter palm
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you would want uproar for very

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specific timings

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i think there is a raid fight where 45s align

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uproar is losing on 20s too

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10t 20s

lost saffron
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hey no matter what target amount you put in the sims they are not representative

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puts in more targets

hard widget
lost saffron
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definitely understood what i was saying

bitter palm
lost saffron
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Obviously the talent that just gives you 2500 more strength in a 20 second sim sims higher there

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What the fuck are you even doing xD

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But yes

rigid stirrup
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People simming during pre season are so funny

restive fiber
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Hello, do the talents 'Reinforced Plates' and 'Armored to the Teeth' work with Earthen Passive?

lost saffron
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in any case, just play attt unless you want to go for very specific things

bitter palm
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yes because its just worse unless u need 45s burst windows

lost saffron
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Oh you have finally arrived at the thing everyone has been saying for the past 10 minutes

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good job

hard widget
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Guys relax, end of the day. Nobody forces you to play ATTT or Uproar

lost saffron
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Yeh, they force me to play arms instead

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😦

hard widget
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Play what u think is best, the recommendations are 2x ATTT without uproar

bitter palm
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either way if u need aoe

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u will just go thane

hard widget
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If u think uproar is better nobody stops u to do that

hard widget
rigid stirrup
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I'm a simple man. I just copy wowhead build n blast

lost saffron
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Thane xD

hard widget
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Ur st will be through the floor

bitter palm
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and ur aoe will be through the roof

iron portal
bitter palm
iron portal
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Still washed up gamer

hard widget
iron portal
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Appreciated

rigid stirrup
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Thane is only good in low fort key weeks

lost saffron
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Thane is also good for style points

hard widget
lost saffron
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the massive clap looks dope

rigid stirrup
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Whoever uses it for any real high end content is straight trolling

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Don't fort and tyran swap off which gets picked first

lost saffron
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How do you know that

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There is no high end content

bitter palm
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thane has ~15-20% stronger aoe and is a lot tankier

lost saffron
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and they might change thngs

bitter palm
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take that as you will

lost saffron
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🤔

bitter palm
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if at some point slayer starts dying due to lack of defensives

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there will be no other option

hard widget
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I dont think it will

bitter palm
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but thane has very very strong aoe

bitter palm
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and better prio

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than slayer

rigid stirrup
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Man it would be a shame if u had a macro that could toggle a 15% dr on demand

hard widget
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These are very interesting takes

lost saffron
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xD

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When you cannot say anything worse than that because you are a streamer

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unlucky

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"interesting"

iron portal
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Or he is just polite

hard widget
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I dont think we will see any other gameplay than slayer because its quite a bit ahead

lost saffron
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Polite and warrior player

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great

iron portal
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dont nee dto be streamer for tha

hard widget
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Defensively i dont think warrior will start to run into issues before other classes do

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So i think we wont be forced to play mountain thane based of that

lost saffron
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Warrior rarely does run into issues before other classes

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defensively

iron portal
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I do miss IP as personal thing

hard widget
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I agree, IP was good to have, also safeguard intervene was goated

iron portal
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Made smart plays rewarding

lost saffron
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IP was fun to play around with

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you could just live high damage things by just preparing properly

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that was great

rigid stirrup
# lost saffron How do you know that

Slayer is good at everything where's thane has 1 niche thing it's currently good at. At higher scaling content the aoe it brings won't compensate for the shit ST

bitter palm
lost saffron
iron portal
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Im just gonna screenshot this for future reference

lost saffron
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do you have some sort of insight on what blizzard will do

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the upcoming weeks?

rigid stirrup
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And they have to cook for a bit to bring it in line since it shares with a tank spec

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Thats already real strong

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Sure quote me on it

south kayak
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That’s easy, they already tuned hero talents differently for different specs in the most recent tuning post

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So they can do that for prot and fury thane

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Matter of time I guess

bitter palm
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yeah but tune what

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lightning strikes? xd

south kayak
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Dn

lost saffron
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DN

bitter palm
south kayak
lost saffron
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You saw that blizzard did to arcane

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who knows what they will do in the future

bitter palm
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nah

lost saffron
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nobody knows

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its a wild guess

bitter palm
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thane isnt getting its st buffed

rigid stirrup
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If I'm wrong I won't lose sleep over it but as it stands thane is just pretty visuals and good aoe

bitter palm
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if they do decide to buff its st they will nerf its aoe

lost saffron
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You dont need to buff thane to make it stronger than slayer

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st

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🙂

bitter palm
south kayak
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Ion already said in interviews they don’t want some hero talents to feel like you can’t play them

bitter palm
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colossus

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is worse at everything

lost saffron
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it is not

south kayak
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Yeah but by how much

lost saffron
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Its good at short burst aoe

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xD

south kayak
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Hint: it’s not 15%

bitter palm
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they are even at aoe

ivory nacelle
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did I read right that they are taking rampage off the GCD?

bitter palm
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and its significantly worse

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at everything else

rigid stirrup
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The defensive argument for thane kinda falls short because warriors overall are one of the tankiest classes overall

south kayak
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No

lost saffron
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Bro is literally just reading the words he wants to read

rigid stirrup
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Something a warrior can't handle usually means other classes would get rolled the fuck over

lost saffron
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short burst aoe becomes just aoe

south kayak
stable frost
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What am I even reading this morning

south kayak
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Slayer vs colossus

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I’d say that’s a good point of balance

warm crag
lost saffron
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only in the voice chat channel

warm crag
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Grrr!

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it will only be used in 2 years time

lost saffron
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Kock & Sack Lore

mortal warren
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I still dont know what spec to main in first seaseon started as furry its oke but i think arms is ahead in st atm want to focus more on raid shit thing is furry mastery - haste arms crit-haste so i need to farm multi sets

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Furry with no cds feels weak

lost saffron
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Just play what you enjoy

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if you dont raid at a level where it matters

summer quail
mortal warren
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Dont like arms in m+ furry is more fun but hate furry in raids specifically when i see that stupid spear is the thing again

rigid stirrup
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It's not a big enough gap to where one spec is leaps and bounds bigger than the other. Unless you're a hall of fame raider just play whatever is fun to you

lost saffron
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Not even hall of fame raiding

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unless you are competing for world first

summer quail
warm crag
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u can just play both yknow

lost saffron
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Yeh

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the gear you have now will be swapped out anyways

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and you can farm gear for both speccs

warm crag
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if you think having the "wrong" secondaries on your neck for x spec is unplayable you are overthinking things wayyy too much

lost saffron
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Most of it is built in a way where you want somewhat of a balance anyways

mortal warren
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Yeh but arms leans allot more to crit haste and furry is always bin mastery king with some crit

hard widget
lost saffron
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Yes but mastery also tends to be not too bad on arms in aoe as well

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not good, but not toooo bad

summer quail
hard widget
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It depends on what u want to achieve, if its for fun. Sure, if its for dmg then u need to farm gear for it

lost saffron
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Which you will do anyways

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when m+ is out

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will just farm gear anyways

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at any point

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@clever belfry @warm crag

clever belfry
lost saffron
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Wann vc

clever belfry
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hmm

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next year maybe

ivory nacelle
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any sims on the current available trinkets?

fickle bluff
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very few that work

eternal sundial
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soon anyways

fickle bluff
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skarmok and ara-kara are good

eternal sundial
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egg good

narrow narwhal
distant monolith
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I've just been taking my time leveling and trying both arms and fury out with the hero talents... but now that I am 80 and totally out of the loop... What does it look like we'll be playing for M+? Or maybe it's too early to say

fluid pollen
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Fury

distant monolith
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Alright, thanks a bunch 🙂

pearl crypt
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how is SMF these days?

eternal sundial
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worse than 2h

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but no lego makes gap smaller

edgy widget
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there's all sorts of stuff they can tune spec-specific

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all of those already have spec specific modiifers in the first place

kind shale
#

Anybody have an idea of what embelleshments to get for crafted items?

balmy socket
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hey guys i have a question, lets say i use bladestorm and cap at max rage, do i use rampage or do i use my Crushing blow first? also how do we use Bloodbath and raging blow? lets say i am rage capped to i spend rage or do i spend the procs from RA

fickle bluff
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spend RA if youre still enraged

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youll mostly only cap rage during CDs

balmy socket
#

okay so prio spend RA then dump

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while enraged ofc

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tyty

quiet skiff
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what is RA ?

fickle bluff
#

reckless abandon

quiet skiff
#

okok ty

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lets say im dumping my crushing blow and my bloodbath and it suddenly (i dont rly understand why sometimes) full reset my enrage, do i still press rampage or do i use non procced raging blow and bloodthirst before pressing rampage again ?

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not sure if its very clear 🤔

fickle bluff
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because bloodthirst (bloodbath) has a 30% chance to enrage you

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if youre below 110 rage you can press raging blow

edgy widget
#

(you won't be below 110 rage after Bladestorm keks)

#

it's actually ridiculous

quiet skiff
#

tbh so far i dont feel like we use bloodbath no ?

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dont feel like theres room to press it

edgy widget
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you do, right after Crushing Blow

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unless Bladestorm/Ravager use it for you

quiet skiff
#

i mean

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bloodthirst, sorry

fickle bluff
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then yeah youre right

edgy widget
#

you don't use Bloodthirst much no, RB is just better

fickle bluff
#

you dont press it as RA really

quiet skiff
#

as for opener i guess everyone is doing same ?

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i just charge >avatar > thunderous > bladestorm

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i dont rly know when to pop odins fury tho

fickle bluff
#

are you playing with titanic rage

quiet skiff
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yes

fickle bluff
#

then yeah

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and youd use OF right after bladestorm

quiet skiff
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right after bladestorm i use rampage

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maybe bad habit ?

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i just do rampage > crushing blow > odins fury

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into normal rotation

fickle bluff
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odyns is too far back at that point and you wont get all of it in thunderous roar

quiet skiff
#

wait u have to combine both spells ?

fickle bluff
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while thunderous roar is on the target, the dot from OF does more damage

quiet skiff
#

fuck man i didnt know that

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ty alot

subtle rock
#

any1 crafting yet or saving for weapon?

fickle bluff
#

save not just for weapon but also for if blizzard does some balancing™️

quiet skiff
fickle bluff
quiet skiff
#

tyty

brittle snow
#

Been enjoying fury quite alot

placid crane
brittle snow
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having bladestorm n all is nice

quiet skiff
#

maybe its a waste idk ?

placid crane
#

But maybe considering ur in bladestorm animation you should use it following OF?

quiet skiff
#

ive no clue

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i guess u waste rage generation thing

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but 20% crit on bladestorm sounds nice

gilded flicker
#

Hey guys, does anyone have macro for ravager mouseover that swaps to bladestorm when spect into?

quiet skiff
#

i play war only since this expansion so im rly clueless

fickle bluff
#

#showtooltip
/cast [known:ravager,@cursor] Ravager;bladestorm

silent hornet
#

just need some new gloves then i think im going to touch grass till raid

gilded flicker
#

BTW i have been testing MT as fury, its pretty ok, dunno which one is better with my ilvl (577) but seems nice

#

pretty consistent aoe dmg and good ST

barren walrus
silent hornet
#

no

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shoulders + chest are

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590s are crafted

stiff barn
#

Upgrading to 590 makes it epic too or even before 590

silent hornet
#

yeah the level after 580 makes them epic

willow cradle
clever belfry
#

@oblique trail

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show meowmeow

jovial coral
#

Banezimagus

oblique trail
gilded flicker
clever belfry
oblique trail
#

One singular step and the beast wakes up

clever belfry
#

the gluttonous beast?

oblique trail
#

The ravenous beast

runic violet
#

chonker?

oblique trail
normal mirage
#

Lads what are we thinking for M+? I'm still leaning towards slayer over MT

oblique trail
#

Assuming no more tuning, Slayer

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Simply too big a loss in ST for what you'd gain in sustained AoE (which is minor) as MT

normal mirage
#

What I was thinking as well.

wispy bridge
#

Is there like a list or compendioum for all the acronyms u guys use? Getting confused reading xD

fickle bluff
#

chatting there is actually

golden hare
#

what about the ones not warrior specific :chatting:

oblique trail
#

erga erga

gilded flicker
golden hare
#

are you enjoying your ice cream honey? erga

oblique trail
#

I am, it's very tasty (vanilla)

#

Come visit and I will allow you to have some too

golden hare
#

it is a bit too far i'm afraid..

oblique trail
#

Will simply have to mail some then..

clever belfry
#

hmm

normal mirage
warm crag
next canopy
modest condor
#

what's DN?

next canopy
golden hare
still basin
#

Uhm I just respecced and got Avatar but it says Spell not learned and WA is not popping up aswell? Spell ID is correct.

#

Anyone similar issues?

hard widget
#

😂

still basin
#

Says Spell not learned everytime, arms fury and prot

next canopy
#

Can anyone make this into a battle shout reminder WA

clever belfry
#

no

#

impossible

next canopy
fickle bluff
clever belfry
#

look at this

eternal sundial
clever belfry
next canopy
#

Haha nice

forest owl
#

do we have any idea what best plate crafted items we will be looking at crafting or too soon for this info?

fickle bluff
#

id pay no mind to it for the time being

iron portal
#

Or check dps faq in pins

clever belfry
#

no

iron portal
#

Ok then no

polar remnant
clever belfry
#

i have no empathy

polar remnant
#

._. FAIR ENOUGH

next canopy
quasi marsh
#

How big of a difference is 580 vs 590 in terms of overall damage? Is it class dependent?

quasi marsh
#

I'm just trying to decide if it's worth crafting a bunch of 590 pieces xD