reck charge ava roar bladestorm
#fury
vocal fiber
👌🏻
quiet rivet
rip aggro die
or not die but
quiet rivet
the funniest one is what I take aggro just for 1 second, then meld it and he anyway cry and quit
summer quail
rip aggro die
velvet flower
is there gonna be any reason to take spear as slayer?
summer quail
yes, single target
icy panther
DF tier bonuses are turned off now, right?
indigo arch
molten wing
its from the raid i believe
it says Dawnbreaker because the end boss of Dawnbreaker escapes and is an actual raid boss
in the raid
lone warren
should i be using bladestorm off cd or holding it for when i have recklessness and avatar
jaunty verge
Realistically it should never be de-sync'd
Reck/Avatar/Bladestorm/Roar all on 90s, Odyn's on 45s
summer quail
Reck/Avatar/Bladestorm/Roar all on 90s, Odyn's on 45s
bladestorm ends up on a shorter cd coz of last slayer talent
summer quail
should i be using bladestorm off cd or holding it for when i have recklessness a...
hold if avatar/reck are gonna come up in 10 seconds or less. if higher you send
light shadow
@rotund ginkgo @brittle crow thanks for the responses - i wanted to settle for somethign stylish but make sure that racial choice wouldnt be tied to a downside - returning player and racials used to be so pre-determined. :D thanks for the replys.
Why Dractyr if i may ask?
brittle crow
dracthyr get 2 extra stuns as racials
its kinda ridic
but also u cant play as one yet
summer quail
dracthyr get 2 extra stuns as racials
they HAVE to change it. it's gonna be legion blood elf all over again, mandatory race for m+
strong pilot
or not die but
lmfao
strong pilot
they HAVE to change it. it's gonna be legion blood elf all over again, mandatory...
they might keep that ngl
hardy cipher
so, anyone knows what should i use as trinkets and the stats priority of a montain thane fury?
foggy kraken
Does anyone have like a WA or a good guide for the rotation and what to focus on?:)
south kayak
Buff Execute and Thane ST
alpine haven
Does anyone have like a WA or a good guide for the rotation and what to focus on...
I do wonder if perhaps there is an article that you are looking for, perhaps a guide made specifically for Fury
summer quail
so, anyone knows what should i use as trinkets and the stats priority of a mont...
same things as slayer fury. haste/mastery and arakara eggsac/skarmorak for trinkets
foggy kraken
I do wonder if perhaps there is an article that you are looking for, perhaps a g...
was rather wondering about a WA
pure breach
You can find good guides on YouTube and also on wowhead and maxroll
storm rune
All you need is a buff tracker, which all warrior WA packages should have
pure breach
Those explain you everything
brittle crow
is this rare
storm rune
Main things to keep track of are WW in aoe, Sudden Death (if slayer) and enrage
brittle crow
i got it on my first awakening the machine
storm rune
not for you it isnt
storm rune
I didn't 😦
alpine haven
contact a GM
molten wing
its not 100% drop
alpine haven
200% drop even
alpine haven
: )
alpine haven
delete facebook if you don't have the mount
brittle crow
is this a healing potion but better or far worse
eternal sundial
i got it on my first awakening the machine
I also got it first try
Seems decently common idk
oblique trail
I don't know the healing amount of normal pots, but that's essentially the rot healing potion from DF, but as a tinker
Higher immediate healing but you take some damage afterwards
brittle crow
if i dont gotta buy heals ever again im usin it
radiant plank
Seems decently common idk
I have done 7 now without mount,,
brittle crow
oh
i need to buy LOTS of heals
xddd
where do u get tinker sockets anyways, crafted engi gear?
brittle crow
does it take up an embellish slot
oblique trail
But have not looked at TWW engineering items
oblique trail
does it take up an embellish slot
Never used them in DF so can't tell you
minor walrus
Hey guys, quick question, are sims broken atm, accounting for tier sets even though they are disabled at 80?
oblique trail
Yes, don't worry about sims until you need them in HC/Myth week
minor walrus
So just slam ilvl upgrades ?
oblique trail
More or less
You'll replace everything anyway with M0 gear
And M+/Raid gear when they open up, which by that point you can actually see how much better something is
oblique trail
I just went with loosely haste + mast gear
Since generally speaking those stats are always preferred
reef inlet
Colossus will outperform That other one by miles once you get gear
oblique trail
What does Colossus have to do with Fury
slim coral
alpine haven
What does Colossus have to do with Fury
Look man, sometimes you just get confused over all the channels
Is this even fury or is it arms
robust basin
oblique trail
Look man, sometimes you just get confused over all the channels
I have never
Only ever spoken in the right channel
alpine haven
yeah okay mister fancy pants some people cant read
gaunt moat
I don't like that 15% enrage dmg talent fighting with the 15% enrage haste talents but it seems like it's way stronger in aoe settings mmmm
native wadi
All quest done ☑️ 587 ilvl with Carved crests saved ☑️ professions up ☑️ Only thing left is capping valorstones slowly in the next week. Am I missing something?
eternal sundial
Do you have the chitin mount
native wadi
No clue what that is, looking for raiding content tbh
But if its fun maybe I give it a go
Is it cool?
eternal sundial
But if its fun maybe I give it a go
It's braindead grinding
Youll kill 5k + mobs
south kayak
Do you have the chitin mount
Is that the recolor boss mount
mystic fox
It's braindead grinding
Nerd
river reef
true and real
south kayak
SNACKO
south kayak
phil answer
native wadi
It's braindead grinding
slim grotto
is crit ever needed as fury?
slim grotto
I am simming but I was told it will be inaccurate in these early weeks
Much like it told me Shard wasn't an upgrade but I know better
gilded pawn
Nothing works right now
slim grotto
If someone that understands Fury better could advise which 2 rings to use please
mystic fox
Which ever one fits o7
muted star
slim grotto
Holy fuck half this discord is braindead
slim grotto
<:sim:353616825847906304>
marsh estuary
you should sim yourself bro
mystic fox
Who cares though, sim if you want, slam random gear, same shit
muted star
yeah it literally doesnt matter
slender badger
It's heroic dungeon week. None of the gear you get now doesn't really matter anyway
oblique trail
Put on haste/mastgear or anything that has a mix of these stats and you'll be fine
Things die in 2 seconds anyway, haste at least makes you be able to have a bit more fun
muted star
but he wants them to die in 1.987 seconds!
slim grotto
but he wants them to die in 1.987 seconds!
hey bro just because you're stuck at 1k io every season doesn't mean everyone else is
I'm trying to understand if there's breakpoints for mastery/haste because I generally play Arms
turbid hemlock
crazy how toxic and upset people are still with fresh content
marsh estuary
ikr. nothing matters this early lmao.
oblique trail
I'm trying to understand if there's breakpoints for mastery/haste because I gene...
There aren't any that you have to worry about, and sims account for this (when they work properly and are relevant)
slim grotto
So it's not toxic when I'm legit asking for advice and this guy is trolling
marsh estuary
i think you need to go outside and touch some grass for a bit. getting this upset ofer a sim yourself comment is kinda cringe
oblique trail
For now just put on haste/mast gear or anything with a mix of this
turbid hemlock
So it's not toxic when I'm legit asking for advice and this guy is trolling
I wasnt talking to you calm down with the victim shit
slender badger
slim grotto
What % haste do we strive for eventually?
south kayak
south kayak
What % haste do we strive for eventually?
There's no specific %
muted star
south kayak
You just sim yourself with the gear you have and the robot will tell you which stat is better at which point
gilded pawn
I’m not joking when I say there’s about 10 haste breakpoints
oblique trail
I just said there was no breakpoints to worry about
south kayak
^
slim grotto
Ok thanks for the tips Banezi
south kayak
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/899838902779670588/1222927208222298132/...
What's that first breakpoint?
gilded pawn
Probably the haste that lets you play the game lol
south kayak
What's the percentage?
gilded pawn
This is dragonflight old stuff
2.5k seems like the 15% mark
Somewhere around that
15-20
That’s the power spike
brazen palm
we good to craft charged claymore or do we wait?
radiant plank
hold
slender badger
Yon can't do it this week since it requires two sparks. But hold until season start
brazen palm
I have 2 sparks lmao but yeah ill hold
slim coral
how do you have 2 sparks
brazen palm
nvm i have 2 fractured sparks
oblique trail
You have 2 halves of a spark
brazen palm
yeye
oblique trail
2nd spark assuming this cadence should be heroic week
slim coral
2nd spark assuming this cadence should be heroic week
I think this is th first time we'll have two sparks
at the start of a season
for once
oblique trail
Probably, I don't remember
slim coral
it's pretty nice
silk matrix
Good afternoon! I have seen the WoWhead guide and I have a question, I have seen that in both multi and mono talents sudden death is not taken, I would like to know the reason since the rota is supposed to prioritize the appearance of said talent, Thank you!
oblique trail
You get enough Sudden Death's from the Imminent Demise hero talent, and the extra you'd get from the actual Sudden Death talent isn't worth it
slim coral
what banezi said
alpine haven
what bazed said
slim coral
I was mid typing it he's too fast
silk matrix
Thank you very much! I had imagined something like this :)))
oblique trail
summer bobcat
hi
alpine haven
hello
summer bobcat
hows everyone
edgy widget
Thank you very much! I had imagined something like this :)))
to elaborate, the main benefit Slayer gets is from the Marked for Execution debuff, and every 3 applications of that debuff will give you Sudden Death anyway, so more Sudden Death procs beyond that don't really do much - they're just regular Exectues, and Fury Execute is kinda mid right now due to how oppressively strong RB is
summer bobcat
im lvling my third warrior alt
silk matrix
to elaborate, the main benefit Slayer gets is from the Marked for Execution debu...
Sure, it sounds logical, I'll now try some dung with the new branch of talents, Thanks!!
summer bobcat
i asked this yesteday but forgot the answer and i cant find it either, may i ask which emblishment you guys think is the best for raiding?
i need to craft one
alpine haven
Oh my god thats one fancy ass FAQ
keen mountain
any news about fury warrior for m+ in s1?
radiant plank
Good
edgy widget
yes, there will be M+ in S1 and you can play Fury Warrior in it
alpine haven
idk man has there been a confirmation about m+ existing in TWW
dreamy kite
idk man has there been a confirmation about m+ existing in TWW
They existed in beta
slim grotto
Is Writhing Armor Banding restricted to bracers/cloak only?
oblique trail
No, it can go on basically all already unembellished armor
It's just typically recommended for those slots because they're low stat budget
slim grotto
It's just typically recommended for those slots because they're low stat budget
If I plan on making engi bracers, what slot would you suggest to replace?
oblique trail
Belt/boots otherwise are good slots to put embellishments on
slim grotto
I suppose ascension weapon + cloak still lets me run engi bracers without sacrificing stat weight. Thanks.
next canopy
idk man has there been a confirmation about m+ existing in TWW
No it’s now delve + and delve IO
fickle bluff
i dont get the problem with it i did it in one trip very easily
narrow narwhal
skill issue
south kayak
lmao
gaunt moat
open ah AAAAAAAAAAH
south kayak
nice wordplay
gaunt moat
nice wordplay
That's the only thing left to do i shouldn't have bought the game on the first day
south kayak
this ain't the first day
south kayak
damn
gaunt moat
Too much free time leads to this
gaunt moat
Do you guys know if quality makes the experimentation easier when you try to find new recipes (alchemy)? Can't seem to find intel about it
calm mantle
Is there a way to do heroic dungeons with opposite factions atm?
lethal crag
Is there a way to do heroic dungeons with opposite factions atm?
Juit need a five person team and walk in - as for queue you can't.
maiden ingot
The type of people you meet in group finder is wild sometimes. Lmao
upbeat sentinel
What % haste do we strive for eventually?
128%
fickle bluff
1000000%
rotund ginkgo
clever belfry
me when powerful enrage (i will 7)
fickle bluff
real
forest owl
does anyone know of an addon that automatically changes keybinds based on talent builds? like if i have a set of keybinds thats different for loadout A and a different keybind for loadout B
lost saffron
Yes
south kayak
is it just me or do tanks seem to do a lot more damage than usual
forest owl
i had a prot warrior in a dungeon yesterday do 600k overall, did more than the 2 other dps lol
river reef
tender seal
i had a prot warrior in a dungeon yesterday do 600k overall, did more than the 2...
Prot warr slaps hard
forest owl
yeah he was slapping and he was shooting thunder blasts out his arse aswell xD
tender seal
especially if you just go full dps talents and no utility/stops.. it's hc so why not
south kayak
Im also doing pretty well on bdk
restive granite
ive looted the trinket fromt he first boss of the spider dungeon 3 times by now but sold it everytime
ppl are foaming for that one
trim salmon
lol how much?
trim salmon
people are wild
brazen wind
got 50k from a sham just now
Is 50k much nowadays?
brazen wind
True
sullen cloak
Which trinket is that?
restive granite
its the egg brood one
wet locust
whirlwind is dead with thane right? unless I'm just missing it
restive granite
yes
pure breach
Well it’s not that trinket from the spider dungeon ?
Or w/e
That’s also good for us because of his passive
sullen cloak
Yeah. .it's odd
It doesn't sim that great for me at all
The ascension darkmoon one is ahead and I have a candle haste boost trinket that is avoid 13k ahead
restive peak
Sims aren't updated to TWW
plush ice
wasn't there some extra way to get crests that had to do w/ flying through something? does anyone have any info or that or am i mis remembering
native wadi
Weathered crest
restive peak
They're not extra, it's just the quickest way to fill
native wadi
Any shiny ball in the air
plush ice
ok, so they still count against the cap?
plush ice
ah, okies, i thought they didn't for some reason, ty
i guess i'm capped until next week then
plush ice
hehe, nah i'm about to farm resonance crystals, i finally get done w/ my last zone to get the chest i think, i go to buy it and then didn't have enough
i was like, wtf, i thought i was done
restive peak
RIP
plush ice
but nope, i have all these delve quests that award them i was going to save for heroic week since i'd be doing delves then anyways, but i guess i can do them now
restive peak
Lamplighter area is goat'd for those
unborn siren
Is Thane better or Slayer for fury
restive peak
Slayer is noteably better in all senses except very sustained mt/prio in an MT situation, but slayer is better ST/Burst
So slayer basically for everything
restive peak
has it all my friend
And explains the differences for you
No problemo homeskilleto
mossy fox
buff fury
restive peak
Buff fury by 40%
fickle bluff
real
restive peak
and true
sage shadow
Hey does anyone know if Befouler's Syringe is still farmable? (The top ilvl world guy has it)
dense elbow
Only buffs I would want for Fury, is some OF buffs to help Thane burst AoE and some buffs to Thane ST tools
Just increase lightning proc rate, to give more ST deeps while looking awesome - heck, call it "lightning strikes twice" and have it proc on ST - something anything
restive granite
the only buff i want is a way to drop aggro
dense elbow
If you struggle with threat on live, find better tanks
slender badger
Best way to drop aggro is to kill.
sullen cloak
Sims aren't updated to TWW
So trinket sims are inaccurate at the moment?
restive peak
So trinket sims are inaccurate at the moment?
EVERY sim is inaccurate
But we know the sacbrood+skarm shard are "BIS" for now, and will be BIS in the M+ season likely still as well, barring tuning
dense elbow
That better be the 1.5min mastery trinky 
mossy fox
it is
mossy fox
But we know the sacbrood+skarm shard are "BIS" for now, and will be BIS in the M...
is geararang launcher not simming higher than shard typically now or
i think it was for me last time i checked yesterday
restive peak
Yeah it'll drop back down to do not want most likely
sage shadow
@mossy fox Do you know how to farm this warbound epic syringe weapon
mossy fox
good, im a skarmorak shard enjoyer
restive peak
Right
We love a good mastery on use
Another day, another praying blizz comes out and says "You know what, everyone is so good, we've decided to move heroic raid to Sept 3rd!"
dense elbow
Would prefer silly levels of mainstat, but beggers can't be chosers
restive peak
restive peak
Yeah fuck puzzlebox
slim coral
restive peak
We're warriors, we fuckin HATE puzzles
dense elbow
At least there are 1.5 min trinkies - not only 2 and 3
hardy cargo
I like puzzles D;
restive peak
I like puzzles D;
You hate puzzles
hardy cargo
More specifically those really hard ones where you gotta match the shapes
mossy fox
Another day, another praying blizz comes out and says "You know what, everyone i...
as much as id like this it'd prolly ruin my planned time off work
fuck it just do it
restive peak
as much as id like this it'd prolly ruin my planned time off work
Sudden case of the WoWs came in, can't make it boss
restive peak
More specifically those really hard ones where you gotta match the shapes
The bane of our existence
restive peak
This 2 week wait is the ultimate tease man
I'm readdicted, but can't itch my addiction
mossy fox
keys are ages away man
restive peak
Right
restive peak
Just gonna jump off a building that takes 11 days to land and hope they save me brb
radiant plank
brazen wind
im only at 77 and i Need the time 😛
dense elbow
2 weeks tho
pure breach
We're warriors, we fuckin HATE puzzles
Wdym? I love puzzles
restive peak
Wdym? I love puzzles
Puzzling
slim coral
You know what’s funny shamans thought totemic was gonna be ass
south kayak
It is
slim coral
Huh? I thought it was their BiS hero talent
modest condor
love these npc crafting orders tbh http://puu.sh/KdXTV/8f28ad81c5.png
slim coral
Weird I heard totemic was really good
modest condor
i think that's like 30k+ worth of alloys they're asking
slim coral
love these npc crafting orders tbh http://puu.sh/KdXTV/8f28ad81c5.png
You always get 2 you can’t craft
restive peak
love these npc crafting orders tbh http://puu.sh/KdXTV/8f28ad81c5.png
Lmao right, armorsmith and I got all weps coolgameblizz
south kayak
love these npc crafting orders tbh http://puu.sh/KdXTV/8f28ad81c5.png
Yeah let me just pull out the 35k worth of gold for you NPC
fuck off
modest condor
You always get 2 you can’t craft
it's not about being able to craft them or not
it's about the cost of the materials
south kayak
Yeah I agree
If anything the NPCs should supply all the mats
or at least the expensive ones
slim coral
Silm isn’t rich?
modest condor
im have plenty of gold
restive peak
It's the principle
south kayak
Plenty meaning 100k
modest condor
but i didnt get that by spending 35k on an npc craft
modest condor
no, plenty meaning a couple mil
slim coral
They’re suppose to rip you off like normal players
slim coral
Complete scum bag npcs
slim coral
Where do you guys get gold from
Selling crafts
willow hazel
Where do you guys get gold from
my garrison in WoD
modest condor
Where do you guys get gold from
got my first mil from boosting back in bfa, then i got a lot from mining in the first couple of weeks of df and i got a couple of rare drops worth 200-250k
south kayak
AH is open pog
I went weaponsmith but all I can make rn is some axes and maces at 590
r5
modest condor
what i have right now http://puu.sh/KdXUB/a401a46466.png
south kayak
I have something similar
modest condor
i can still get a bunch more, havent bought the knowledge with kej yet
south kayak
Wait, there's knowledge you can buy with kej?
modest condor
yeah 10 of each profession
south kayak
Where?
modest condor
in the open world city of threads
hollow raptor
is it okay to put odyns fury and onslaught on the same keybind? or is there ever a time we play both?
south kayak
oh okay
south kayak
is it okay to put odyns fury and onslaught on the same keybind? or is there ever...
It is ok
buoyant salmon
is it okay to put odyns fury and onslaught on the same keybind? or is there ever...
not right now but its possible in the future
fury has such few keybinds though id just separate them
azure meadow
The pvp build has both, but that's the only time I've seen both taken
south kayak
Warbound rep is one of the best things ever
going on alt at 80 and just accumulating all the crests and stones for upgrades
buoyant salmon
The pvp build has both, but that's the only time I've seen both taken
in s2 taking both was the most ethical way to pad
still have onslaught so youre not trolling bosses, but keeling odyns to pad a little overall
pure breach
Totemic is fine for resto
People prefer farseer and it seems much better in my opinion
brisk mango
People prefer farseer and it seems much better in my opinion
They're both pretty even but totemic is such a huge qol improvement
So most are playing that for resto atleast
south kayak
Skarmorak's Shard and Ara-Kara Sacbrood
summer bobcat
can i share my loots from HC dungeons with my warbands characters?
hard widget
can i share my loots from HC dungeons with my warbands characters?
If it says “warbound” then yes
dense elbow
Nope, only items that got the add: warbound till equiped
summer bobcat
so instead of "souldbound" for example
hard widget
But warbound drops are more rare than ur average loot
summer bobcat
it says warbound?
hard widget
It says exactly what kitty said
summer bobcat
ty ill check em out
dense elbow
o7
spiral fossil
is there some spreadsheet with dps per race?
long prairie
daytona is the fastest
dense elbow
The DPS diff per race is so minor, that if you want to optimise, you play gimmicks value above it
Or, if ya a real one, ya pick what you like the most
(as long it ain't vulpera)
radiant plank
is there some spreadsheet with dps per race?
Mechagnome for max dps
worst gimmick thingiemabob
radiant plank
mainstat proc
verbal vortex
NE master race
dense elbow
I heal 
faster ques
junior gale
That would require me playing prot hard pass
dense elbow
Demo Prot does so much more dam tho
civic bobcat
with big pulls
south kayak
Demo Prot does so much more dam tho
Demonology?
dense elbow
Demolish
south kayak
Yeah but Thane > Demolish
dense elbow
Just slap it for 20mill dam, and then go ham with revenge to clean house - top DPS
karmic pewter
rly no viable mt thane st build?
civic bobcat
Yeah but Thane > Demolish
so far
dense elbow
Aight
civic bobcat
demolish is cool but doesnt compare
dense elbow
rly no viable mt thane st build?
Not really, no. But it looks fancy
karmic pewter
sadge, love the fantasy
and thunderclaps remind me of gladiator stance ❤️
had a blast lvling with smf mt thane 😄
slim pollen
and thunderclaps remind me of gladiator stance ❤️
Good old rolling on armor trinkets for dps 😄
karmic pewter
😄
civic bobcat
I don't know if I'm late on this but since I started playing battle stance (when ever) my damage has gotten much higher. It doesn't compare to the glad stance but it is very different.
spiral fossil
anyone can give me name and realm of an 80lvl fury war? i wanna run a sim for different races
past pivot
why not use yours?
spiral fossil
why not use yours?
dont have one
spiral fossil
https://mimiron.raidbots.com/simbot/report/fdcyptqpyQpXBE9sWm82ye
ty
muted owl
does someone know how to get carved harbinger crest? is there another way to get them beside renown at the moment?
fickle bluff
no, they drop from m0 and nm raid
muted owl
I wonder how I got 10 then, lol :D
past pivot
Some chains and rares give them. I have 110
supple zenith
What renown do we focus on?
fickle bluff
doesnt matter
muted owl
Some chains and rares give them. I have 110
really?
past pivot
the ones that give 484 armor
fickle bluff
I wonder how I got 10 then, lol :D
i think you get 10 from the one time quest from the evoker guys maybe
past pivot
fickle bluff
i have 135 in total
muted owl
ohh like that I got alot lol, I am talking about the season's maximum then, to correct myself
latent star
Does slayer with bladestorm sim higher than thane with ravager atm? I feel like thane and ravager does more
karmic pewter
they added somthing to smf dident they or is it just me?
karmic pewter
ah righto
summer quail
Does slayer with bladestorm sim higher than thane with ravager atm? I feel like ...
Yes, by alot
fickle bluff
Does slayer with bladestorm sim higher than thane with ravager atm? I feel like ...
Thane ST is far behind
past pivot
Does slayer with bladestorm sim higher than thane with ravager atm? I feel like ...
Closer in MT but Slayer is way ahead in St. Like 20% higher last I read.
latent star
Yeah i read that also but it doesn’t feel like that while playing imo
Don’t know how everybody else feel about that though🙂
past pivot
Numbers don't lie
fickle bluff
and they spell disaster
junior gale
Are you talking about hitting dummies or heroic dungeons
latent star
Heroics
junior gale
Cuz heroic dungeons ain't gonna tell you anything
latent star
Yeah I guess, everything dies too quick
junior gale
I'm sure thane ST gonna look good when the boss lives for 15 sec
quasi marsh
I can't decide between Fury and Enhance, they're both so fun
fickle bluff
@dapper goblet help this man
dim meadow
What are some crafted item/ embellishments that we should be looking out for as Fury
quasi marsh
My RL gaave me the Fury vs Enhance choice haha, so I"m just in both discords gathering info. Warrior has the cool factor 100% though xD
chilly plume
ok so uhhh weird observation idk if anyone's pointed this out, but this macro, which works in open world/any other dungeon, for some reason does not cast reck while in Priory???
velvet loom
looking over the professions, any that would prob be best for fury?
keen kindle
My RL gaave me the Fury vs Enhance choice haha, so I"m just in both discords gat...
Enhance with all the flash dosent have the cool factor?
echo stump
Why does in the guide in Whead for the BIS craft its a 2h sword with Vers ?
past pivot
what's wrong with vers?
echo stump
what's wrong with vers?
isnt the value of mast/hast better ?
velvet loom
forever alchemy engi
I started with alch but found it very confusing and the non stop failures on the 24hr cd was off putting, dont link i completed one in the 5 days i had it. What does Eng bring?
past pivot
over time, vers may be better once we have enough haste/mastery
junior gale
I started with alch but found it very confusing and the non stop failures on the...
battle res
past pivot
Don't need to be an engineer for that, I thought
thorny zinc
Engi's have a lower failure rate
It can fail again, unlike in Shadowlands when it just worked every time
chilly plume
Is sim bot just playing mountain thane wrong? Mine didn't press thunderclap a single time ❓
junior gale
I started with alch but found it very confusing and the non stop failures on the...
the power of alch really is the whole longer flask duration I rarely ever craft my own shit lmao
hard widget
ok so uhhh weird observation idk if anyone's pointed this out, but this macro, w...
Cast recklessness before avatar, idunno why it doesnt work in priory tho
eternal sundial
Is sim bot just playing mountain thane wrong? Mine didn't press thunderclap a si...
It's about thunder blast not clap
Clap is shite
chilly plume
ok that's fair I was not specific enough about why im thinkin the sim is wrong:
It didn't press thunder blast OR clap even once
it is pressing WW
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/fUQx95Km8kWGXC9FP1rpQw
rigid oriole
What are the best trinkets for fury right now?
oblique trail
ok that's fair I was not specific enough about why im thinkin the sim is wrong:
...
Sims aren't updated to support Hero Talents yet
It's still using pre-patch APL
chilly plume
Ahhh ok gotcha, ty
past pivot
What are the best trinkets for fury right now?
sacbrood and Shard
willow cedar
Hey guys, new to play fury warrior as I mained hunter previously. So I will be asking alot of questions and probably dumb ones so bare with me ❤️
past pivot
Welcome. Read the guides and DPS-FAQs for lots of good info
willow cedar
Thank you for the tip
quasi marsh
Enhance has too many buttons for me, Warrior it is!
willow cedar
Should I prioritize Haste or Mastery as main stat when playing Fury slayer Warrior?
rigid stirrup
Master > Haste
willow cedar
So Master first then Haste and third versatility?
rigid stirrup
willow cedar
Thank u!
rigid stirrup
could always save yourself some time and just check wowhead for anything related to stats/gear/enchants n stuff
willow cedar
Gotchu
past pivot
Should I prioritize Haste or Mastery as main stat when playing Fury slayer Warri...
W/e sims recommend. When it's that time. For now, I'd go haste as too low feels like dog
hard widget
Sims arent working properly just yet
Just prio ilvl
If you have similar ilvl gear give prio to haste / mastery
north geyser
not using sudden death feels so weird
velvet loom
since thane really isnt simming yet, do we know if techincally its better than slayer?
oblique trail
It's worse than Slayer
By a substantial enough amount that you'd not play Thane
But tuning pending, so we can potentially see changes where they'll be more in line, or one be better in one area over the other, and vice versa
north geyser
practicing on the dummies right now. how often are you guys dropping ashen juggernaut?
exotic glacier
could always save yourself some time and just check wowhead for anything related...
I like to have people answer me. Makes me feel powerful
exotic glacier
not using sudden death feels so weird
Slayer does get SD procs. Just fewer of them. They’re technically more important now in that framework
north geyser
yeah I know but idk if I'm just unlucky or got bad haste but I often don't get them in time to keep up ashin juggernaut
exotic glacier
o, that's got nothing to do with AJ stacks. Im NOT sure what to do about AJ stacks (outside of execute phase)
dense elbow
With SD procs, and 2 stacks, you can keep it up quite consistently, some drop off when you got bad RNG
exotic glacier
2 stacks?
dense elbow
Well, ya run SD and the every 3rd talent from slayer, then you use the up to 2 stacks to help float
exotic glacier
oh, well the point is that SD itself isnt simming as highest. so how to keep up AJ WITHOUT SD talent
dense elbow
No clue, but ya did dummy testing - so you would have a decent idea
heavy plover
When playing fury and following the priority list I find myself sometimes capping on rage. Is that ok?? 🤔
dense elbow
RA is you rampage to CB, not you CB to Rampage - in AM you RB to Rampage, not Rampage to RB
That kind of logic
heavy plover
Yeah.
north geyser
let's see if I'm reading this right. Slayer's Strike is 7 procs per minute, so on average one every 9s, and you need 3 to get Sudden Death so that's about one every 27s, but AJ only lasts 15s so you only have half the SD procs that you need to keep it up continuously
rigid stirrup
anyone else having guild achivements constantly pop up for them?
my sanity wants to know if theres a way to make it stop
keen kindle
anyone else having guild achivements constantly pop up for them?
Cross realm guilds broke thar crap
heavy plover
God I hate those. I wish they'd fix it
dense elbow
Yep, once in a while I get confused from the popups
north geyser
friendship ended with Vicious Contempt, now Sudden Death is my best friend
rigid oriole
guys, you use slayer in dungeon or thane?
meager void
ger?
rigid oriole
dungeon
dense elbow
Both, Jeens
keen kindle
Dps warriors knows naught rlse
rigid oriole
Need to try thane
dense elbow
Do it, you might enjoy it more than slayer - if you enjoyed S2 Fury of DF
meager void
What's the debate between AJ and W&F?
winter shoal
Thane pretty good for these heroic dungeons tbh
meager void
I'm running W&F cuz its less clutter to mind AJ
but is it going to edge out into AJ later on maybe?
winter shoal
Probably a sim question but I think both talents are kinda mid so unlikely to make a big difference either way
In heroic dungeons rn I don't think you're stacking AJ enough for it to be worth a damn tho
Things die too fast
winter shoal
I mean my word doesn't mean shit but if you just wanted a sanity check then go for it bud
meager void
you also have the purples purpling with W&F mostly too so, its "big" data analysis.
restive peak
You will never drop W&F either way, what?
restive peak
AJ is only good on extended ST, it's not good for short fights or cleave, it may creep into high high M+ eventually
Drop AJ for W&F 110%, RB/CB is our damage button now
Archi has posted a few times saying he's been very busy and will update, that's still based on prepatch times when W&F was bugged, the maxroll 1 by Revvez has the swap and I'm pretty sure WoWhead will once Archi is less busy
Even for ST you'll run W&F+AJ
restive peak
No clue, but this is correct, AJ is a talent that sounds great but in practicality likely doesn't stay stacked barring an ST raid boss
And RB/CB is our biggest damage button, AJ fully stacked execute is EQUAL to CB, pre stack it's worse
W&F was bugged for a LONG time, so it was dropped from every build prepatch for that reason
And current sims are still the prepatch APL
meager void
I have followed and understand this.
meager void
Even for ST you'll run W&F+AJ
but this confused me. Did you mistype here?
winter shoal
And current sims are still the prepatch APL
It's not just the APL that's broken but the simc engine itself innit
restive peak
My point being you never drop W&F
Whether cleave or ST
But you certainly drop AJ for W&F if you can only pick 1
I could've worded it better, but that's what I meant
Execute sucks, full stop, it's incredibly weak right now
dense elbow
only place where you use AJ potentially would be PvP; as exe got a huge damage modifier
meager void
check what I quoted, it seems incoherent with what you are saying
unless my esl is hitting me hard here
restive peak
It was in the context of everyone discussing AJ vs W&F
So I was saying "Even if you run AJ in ST, you'll STILL want W&F" as in W&F is always picked
It's just a text verbiage issue, but that's the long typed version of what I meant
meager void
I mean this.
restive peak
Yes, as in "Even for ST, you wouldn't drop W&F for AJ"
winter shoal
Yeah so in aoe spec with meat cleaver you'll drop AJ for the ww talents, in single target spec you'll put the point back in AJ
restive peak
For ST you'll run both
meager void
You might mean, you always run W&F and AJ is optional between flex talents?
restive peak
It's the same meaning
No, AJ isn't optional for ST
So that wouldn't be the way to say it because it's NOT a flex talent
My point is W&F = S tier always, AJ = S tier for ST and C tier at best for cleave
meager void
oh I got it now
MT: W&F for sure, AJ flex depending on key level
ST: W&F and AJ always.
restive peak
Yes
And even for AJ flex depending on key level, that's a maybe, we'll see once we're in them. Still potential for never, but yes that's the gist of it
meager void
(it was the esl lol)
rotund ridge
Anyone else here planning on playing Mountain Thane for mythic+? Im spamming heroics to learn the dungeons and gear up, and I’ve yet to see any fury warr in any of my groups running MT….it makes me feel lonely and sad
restive peak
We pray for MT buffs
rotund ridge
Ive been crushing it so far on the meters, even being aware its only heroic
Am i just dumb or what
Which is possible, btw
restive peak
You're in pug heroics with a lot of rerolls/alts/mid players, it's very skewed
rotund ridge
All true
restive peak
I did a heroic for the rep yesterday and did 61% of the dmg, it's just that's how bad the average playerbase is 😛
rotund ridge
Yeah that checks
restive peak
If you're in this discord, you're already probably top 15-20% of players just because you care
Lol
rotund ridge
Oh i believe it….those of us who push KSH each season just make assumptions like “who tf would come into a dungeon and be a moron?”
restive peak
We all end up doing mid to high keys etc and forget the VAST majority of players do LFR/m0s forever
rotund ridge
Agreed
spiral orbit
wait, we get rep for heroics? how?
rotund ridge
Quests, etc
restive peak
There are some quests 1 time for 500 rep
spiral orbit
tryna get to 8 with assembly but soo tired of questing
winter shoal
tryna get to 8 with assembly but soo tired of questing
rares and treasures bud
Also bountiful delves on an alt
spiral orbit
ya
coarse nest
Full clear the zones quests and it puts you at about 7 renown
restive peak
I hit 11/12 w everything yesterday and I need a break lol
I'll finish it this weekend
spiral orbit
whats the bountiful delve one
hollow chasm
im at 11 11 12 9
winter shoal
If the bountiful delve is in a zone it gives you 1k rep with that zone faction I think
Or maybe it's a chance
hollow chasm
not sure how to get more threads rep
restive peak
If you have an alt, you can do the bountifuls for big rep, but you shouldn't waste keys on your main
spiral orbit
so i have to burn a key to get the rep
winter shoal
But you want to save the keys on your main for when you can do +8s
So do it on an alt since the renown is warband-wide
spiral orbit
ok that's perfect i have a perfect rat for this ty
restive peak
Ye I used my 1 alts keys for it
spiral orbit
do i even have to be 80
quiet rivet
Guys want clarify, we cannot craft Charder Claymore rn? All have 1 spark or it is luck/unluck f loot?
restive peak
You can't and shouldn't Nergal
winter shoal
Can you get the keys before 80?
I think you can
hollow chasm
can delves be bountiful pre-80?
quiet rivet
You can't and shouldn't Nergal
ty
raw bone
the pheromone trinket is bugged, right? it sims bad and in game i cant seem to see the proc
hardy shuttle
I saw it under buff uptime but it seemed super random
I had some dungeons at like 65% and others at like 19%
raw bone
damm then maybe i had bad luck on the dummies
hardy shuttle
I'd just go for the sac and shard. Just forget it exists. My sim also kept trying to put regular gems into its secondary stat sockets. But that was on early access
pure nest
anyone know what the best darkmoon deck to get for fury is?
winter shoal
I think they all kinda stink tbh
But they're cheap and high ilvl so you can run them while you farm hc for shard and sacbrood
spare steppe
But they're cheap and high ilvl so you can run them while you farm hc for shard ...
Shard is from stone vault right?
proud mason
question on rotation. after you do your big damage burst and pop all yuor cooldowns, do you basically just use rampage, raging blow, blodblath and whirlwhind until everything else comes off cooldown?
restive peak
Yep
frank dawn
do you use all of your buttons until you can hit cooldowns? Well yes, I suppose that is correct lol
proud mason
im trying to figure out the correct rotaion after you initial burst since there is some pretty long cooldowns
restive peak
It's a constant loop of CB>BB>Ramp>Exec triggered by ID>RB>BT(BT/BB move up in prio for AOE)
In execute phase on ST w AJ fully stacked, exec goes above BB but after CB, and otherwise remains a filler
upbeat sentinel
Is the AH down again
restive peak
Probably
quick inlet
Working fine for me
proud mason
@restive peak thank you
restive peak
Np homie
clever path
anyone got bugged that bladestorm forces camra to follow your char?
winter shoal
Shard is from stone vault right?
Yeah Skarmorak Shard from stonevault, also a nice haste/mastery neck from there
winter shoal
It's a constant loop of CB>BB>Ramp>Exec triggered by ID>RB>BT(BT/BB move up in p...
BB > CB in aoe right for the reap procs?
spare steppe
And a shield too, looks like I’m gonna spam stonevault
restive peak
BB > CB in aoe right for the reap procs?
Yes
warm crag
@restive peak ty
restive peak
<@301095302977290241> ty
🫡
winter shoal
Linc how much am I gonna get farmed by +9/10s week one
restive peak
If you can get your key there, you'll be ok 😛
I don't think anyone who doesn't do heroic and get some decent loot will be in 9/10s haha
I mean I guess if you play 10 hrs a day by the weekend you'd likely be in enough M+ gear
winter shoal
I don't think we full clear heroic the week of the 10th tbh
I do have the week of the 17th off tho to farm M+
restive peak
You'd be surprised, there hasn't been a ton of buffs and we did the tests at 580 and it was fairly easy
winter shoal
I thought 9/10s were scaled up to like 610 or something
spiral orbit
It seems like from a gearing perspective we should go straight to delves on the 10th right and burn all our keys. guaranteed 606 instead of m0 loot slot machine at 593
winter shoal
Oh you meant raid
restive peak
Yes you'll wanna do delves pre raid
pastel geyser
I mean I guess if you play 10 hrs a day by the weekend you'd likely be in enough...
Took the week off when M+ begins. I’m going full degenerate mode lol
restive peak
Yeah M+ week if you go in at 593 you'll have a rough time lol
restive peak
Yeah you'll get at least 7/8 heroic week 1
pastel geyser
I mean we're like a 7-8/9 kinda guild
Same bro.
winter shoal
I think we got AOTC week 2 or 3 in amir
restive peak
Noone can accurately say how queen will go, she could be undertuned and we crush her or she could be an absolute godmode monster
but the 1st 7? You'll be fine
winter shoal
It seems like from a gearing perspective we should go straight to delves on the ...
Yeah that's what Larias' guide says. I wasn't an early accesser so I'm behind on keys though I think
restive peak
You're behind 1 that's all
winter shoal
Delves are giga easy on prot right?
restive peak
They're giga easy regardless haha
They aren't timed remember
So you can wait for CDs if needed
brave orchid
Delves seem to do more dmg if you're on a tank spec
fickle cedar
Im capped on valorstones with nothing to upgrade but I gotta farm the last piece (got the rest upgraded) which is stonevault trinket 
do I spend em on upgrading good pieces to above 580 ?
winter shoal
I was doing t3 on arms and it was so squishy
I didn't die or anything but it was a little dicier than I would've liked
restive peak
I was doing t3 on arms and it was so squishy
Arms, I found your problem
south kayak
any Slayer's Strike procs in chat
compact knot
Im capped on valorstones with nothing to upgrade but I gotta farm the last piece...
with the weather crests (lfr crests) id do weapons and trinkets
those crests will not matter when m0s come out
winter shoal
Btw do the t8 bountiful delves drop any random loot or do they have fixed loot tables per delve?
south kayak
any Slayer's Strike procs in chat
@covert blaze peep SS procs
restive peak
Not a clue, haven't seen a list anywhere
silent hornet
Anyone farmed the polearm?
south kayak
No
dusky moon
south kayak
I'm not insane
coarse nest
compact knot
Anyone farmed the polearm?
what polearm
silent hornet
I mainly just wanted to try sim it to see how good it actually is but it doesn’t let me add it into sims
compact knot
i just want the extra large leek for my miku transmog
coarse nest
Spider elites drop a 606 Polearm without mainstat
Not sure how good it is
But boosts ilvl
silent hornet
Yeah they no main stat and weird proc is why I was curious
restive peak
Sims aren't updated
silent hornet
It does show on sim but it’s 350 ilvl
compact knot
whats the item name
lilac trail
Anyone farmed the polearm?
maybe
hybrid summit
Should we prio execute at three stacks of marked for execution?
winter shoal
I believe it's still below CB and BB on prio but above raw RB or BT
And above ramp unless you're going to drop enrage
Or if you need to send exe to keep AJ up
restive peak
^
winter shoal
FWIW I think that's the case regardless of stacks
restive peak
It goes up in prio if it's gonna drop off, or AJ is gonna drop off
chilly walrus
any thunder blast weakauras around? i dont really know how to make my own
winter shoal
What I did was just add a trigger for having the "thunder blast" buff, and added a glow condition that checks that trigger
I can DM you
chilly walrus
i can try to figure it out haha thank you
hasty river
My guild is switching to a soft reserve system for loot this tier, any recommendations for which 2 pieces I should reserve?
slim grotto
what is the max carved harbinger crests we should have this week if we haven't spent?
dusky moon
You guys are having fun aren't you
silent hornet
ive never had fun in my entire life
fading sky
My guild is switching to a soft reserve system for loot this tier, any recommend...
Trinkets or weap ofc depending on comp and bis
fickle bluff
I have 135
slim grotto
I see, so I probably have 120 because I did the conversion quest on my main
hard widget
Interesting new bug. Party leader can solo kick people from heroic 🙂
carmine glade
anyone got a good fury weakaura for someone new to the clasS?
wispy swan
Are we upgrading Heroic Dung gear to 584? Also, should we be crafting gear this week (I know dont use spark)?
humble cape
stop at 580
wispy swan
M0 we wont use weather crests though right.
clever belfry
im not wasting my stones i wotn lie to u
rather start m0 week with almost capped stonies
untold yacht
coarse nest
Imagine warrior tuning am I right
coarse nest
That guy logged out but forgot his shoes
balmy shore
no warrior changes i think that's a good thing someone yell at me if it's not
iron portal
Why agony
coarse nest
if you like mountain thane specifically ur in agony tho
Exactly
Thane is like 15% behind slayer
balmy shore
if you like mountain thane specifically ur in agony tho
i want to slay
say hi to protrax :3
young swan
gloomy loom
no warrior changes i think that's a good thing someone yell at me if it's not
20% nerf to odyn’s fury and 15% nerf to tunderous roar, rip
hardy cargo
Slayer is projected to play RA in all content yes? Tuning may change this obv
coarse nest
20% nerf to odyn’s fury and 15% nerf to tunderous roar, rip
For PvP tho
south kayak
Still no buffs to thane ST
coarse nest
Nobody cares about pvp
balmy shore
player vs player
iron portal
@molten wing
balmy shore
xd
young swan
say hi to protrax :3
he said sup (im not relaying any information passed this point)
balmy shore
he said sup (im not relaying any information passed this point)
tell him i said xan is stinky
thanks
molten wing
<@193653461345239041> <:sadge:820202363359854633>
man i wasn't gonna do much this expansion
here i am leveling my 4th alt
craggy river
nice warri changes
molten wing
all chars are 580+
iron portal
Smh
iron portal
Just 1 for me atm
hardy cargo
thanks after like im your secretary is insane 😭
Hopefully for her you are a remote employee bc working with dudes who don’t shower SUCKS
molten wing
i got the warrior up , then the ret and i saw their ST so i parked it as an m+ char
and then got the WW monk ready too
young swan
Hopefully for her you are a remote employee bc working with dudes who don’t show...
dude..
dense elbow
No wonder unhinged got nerfed
rotund steppe
man theres a lot of side quests this xpac
rotund steppe
man
the whole story aspect is better
since i dare say legion
if this is what metzen is bringing to the table then im excited
iron portal
If you pay attention, you can see someone really cared at certain quests or interactions
Main campaign so far for me isnt anything special though
rotund steppe
If you pay attention, you can see someone really cared at certain quests or inte...
the isle of dorn quest of the guy getting ready to die
hard widget
Pog fdk nerfs, enter fury into the meta
iron portal
the isle of dorn quest of the guy getting ready to die
Aye
south kayak
Someone tag xeos
dapper goblet
just cant keep letting fury get away with this..
jolly mist
why is the ah
south kayak
Hey I’m just taking it back it to you
molten wing
Fury is just the guy she tells you not to worry about 🤷♂️
south kayak
just cant keep letting fury get away with this..
It’s not getting away with anything lol
Enha is still gonna be fine
tawny geode
Fury is just the guy she tells you not to worry about 🤷♂️
😂
dense elbow
Fury is just the guy she tells you not to worry about 🤷♂️
we are the DPS at home
coarse nest
Fury is just the guy she tells you not to worry about 🤷♂️
Real
tawny geode
yo is it worth to craft items ?*
coarse nest
No
iron portal
@rotund steppe some alzeimer metaphors
coarse nest
lINE
iron portal
Prob was personal topic for creator
jolly mist
guys how come auction house wont work??
gloomy loom
I just cant get a break
Rip 🪦
south kayak
I’m gonna bet fury is still strong in pvp with these nerfs
dense elbow
It will still be ok
ornate gust
no buff ? 😦
south kayak
We don’t need one
jolly mist
do you guys reccomend crafting anything?
south kayak
Just thane ST
jolly mist
im not sure if i should
pearl crypt
Late to the party guys how is fury looking in raid and m+
dense elbow
decent
iron portal
True showing when season actually starts
iron portal
Aye
balmy shore
thanks after like im your secretary is insane 😭
ornate gust
what is the best horde race in the coming season?
lofty delta
whatever looks the cutest
iron portal
So undead then
balmy shore
GOBLIN GO GOBLIN
ornate gust
whatever looks the cutest
nah.. i meant dps wise
molten wing
funny enough its probably the new dwarves
pearl crypt
Maghar orc tusks of mannoroth bis race
molten wing
dps wise
balmy shore
if you actually want to know
carmine glade
anyone got a good weakaura for fury?
fickle bluff
I am furious
Don't care I need buhsacs opinion right now
coarse nest
W T F such a goated sticker!
tender sky
How big are those fdk nerfs?
edgy widget
Thane or Slayer?
right now, Thane
in M+ probably Slayer, but it's a bit of a tossup atm
runic violet
right now, Thane
in M+ probably Slayer, but it's a bit of a tossup atm
ty
It feels weird having to use TC as fury
edgy widget
it's fun af, Thane blasts 
coarse nest
#showtooltip Whirlwind
/cast Thunderclap
runic violet
I haven't played fury for a year... so no ww?
runic cypress
#showtooltip Whirlwind
/cast Thunderclap
runic violet
nvm... im reading now
modest urchin
iron portal
Any weapon is good , but yes those two if you can choose
loud bay
Is it worth maxing out for Shard and Sacbrood trinket?
coarse nest
I wouldn’t spend any crests on heroic items
lyric saddle
maxing out i don't think so
coarse nest
I’d hold them to craft 590s
lyric saddle
but 580 its fine
young swan
😭
lyric saddle
i wonder why every damage trinket sim so high right now
i have tested a few of them they are not bad but it feels weird using double damage trinket
south kayak
Sims aren’t working properly
lyric saddle
yeah i though so
bitter palm
nah.. i meant dps wise
troll iirc
restive peak
Sims are not updated
bitter palm
its on the spreadsheet
coarse nest
Sims don’t have hero talents active
lyric saddle
yeah that make sense
coarse nest
You’re simming with pre patch apl basically
lyric saddle
is there any ETA on the update ?
restive peak
Probably not going to be a priority til closer to the end of next week
Since there's nothing to do that would even remotely require it until the 10th
slate escarp
fury or arms whos going to be stronger in m+ raid?