#fury

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sudden tusk
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this child is fucked

orchid iron
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that shit was sad af

static nest
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also for ra do we want to spend cb/bt before we rampage again if we're capped or not

static nest
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so always spend bt?

sudden tusk
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no

static nest
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oh other way lmfao

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sry misinterpreted

sudden tusk
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Crushing blow is the only cast worth overcapping rage for

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yar

static nest
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yea ty

storm rune
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So a bloodcraze tracker seems about as ridiculous as a Marked For Execution tracker now that I think it over

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I can't see any logic in needing to track them as they're gonna naturally fall into the rotation due to rage and CDs

edgy widget
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you don't need a crit tracker anymore, since you will cast BB periodically anyway

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you can use it if you really wanna see it, but it's not a matter of decision making

storm rune
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Yeah that all makes sense to me, and you already touched on keeping AJ up so exe just falls in to the rotation as well

edgy widget
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basically yeah - the last time we used RA, we also had such high reck uptime that the rotation was very compressed, but this time you need to actually use a few GCDs to generate enough rage to use Rampage again

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which means you'll typically have enough room to use a variety of abilities anyway

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the only real rotational issue comes from how strong RB is in relation to other stuff - taking priority over Execute, BT, and even Rampage, though it is limited by charges so it's not a limitless spam

storm rune
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Can't wait for what goodies our tuning week has in store for us

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But thanks for all the confirmation

edgy widget
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yeah... I'm not expecting much tbh, but I really want them to

  • Drop RB's priority a little bit so that BT/Execute are more emphasized (CB is fine, it's really just an RB problem)
  • Promote some combination of Battlelord/EB/Fatality over Juggernaut/Ravager/Unhinged for Colossus - Slayer is fine with Bladestorm & Juggernaut, but it really feels like Colossus is meant to lean into more Mortal Strike resets
rotund ginkgo
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feeling cute

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got lucky w new belt :3

sullen dove
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no skarmorak L

rotund ginkgo
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FARMING IT RN

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i got it on my alt

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first try

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lmao

molten spear
past pivot
sullen dove
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erm..

gaunt moat
molten spear
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yeah that's kinda the main thing

abstract flower
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if I wanna be a degen goblin man and target farm heroic dungeon trinkets, which 2 do I go for? I imagine sac for 1 but idk other

past pivot
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skarmorak maybe

abstract flower
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Oh right! ty!

rotund ginkgo
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@sullen dove

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he wrote "20k" then gave it to me for 0k

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and said "ty for 20k"

sullen dove
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nice

rotund ginkgo
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howd u get swords

abstract flower
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I sold a sac for 50k on my druid last night hehe

past pivot
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Algari greatsword. Think it was random drop. Maybe a rare.

latent hedge
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campagin quest

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specifically the one where you're training them on the shores

calm ermine
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You cant use sudden death stacks back to back?

dense elbow
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Execute got a CD

rotund ginkgo
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will roll that bih out later

thorny oar
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hello guys do you have good streamers playing fury to follow ?

shut spruce
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So question for dungeons and slayer - regarding Marked for Execution, is it one of those things where if you can snipe a sudden death on trash with it, cool, if not no biggie or should I reallllllly try to get the sudden death off. Obviously it's a bit harder in heroics vs M+ but just trying to build good habits now

unique phoenix
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Didn't notice it anywhere, is there any talent we're safe to drop in favor of running uproar with thunderous roar or we stuck with 1.5m CD on it

still berry
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whats best darkmoon deck for us? vivacity?

dense elbow
unreal onyx
calm ermine
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Just by changing stats... wtf

dense elbow
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He a prot pally fan

storm rune
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ew

dense elbow
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Exactly

restive peak
tulip vapor
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im done full bis

silk wharf
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I have shard but its simming under other trinkets.

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I'm certainly not 580 yet so that may change.

unique phoenix
unreal onyx
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me when I tryhard heroics to immediately replace my gear in m0

dense elbow
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bedge
I am so happy the gearing itch didnt bother me this expansion

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Full 580, ye, I am done

unique phoenix
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I'm just aiming for full 580

dense elbow
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That is a few hours, and ya done, it is a good goal

rotund steppe
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brann has seen my raid members

unique phoenix
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Haven't gotten a belt in the past 3 days sadly so its still green

dense elbow
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Just upgrade the green one?

torpid sand
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hmmm seems a little small

unique phoenix
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questing green can't upgrade it ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

dense elbow
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AH, 100g, green

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Done, ez clap

shut spruce
rotund ginkgo
rotund ginkgo
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Dawg is 575

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Foh

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I'm bouta be 583 tmrw

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Mayhaps 584

velvet obsidian
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When does M+ season start? ๐Ÿ‘€

feral ivy
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i have 95 carved harbinger crest .. how do i have 95?

shut spruce
still berry
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execute seems kinda dog rn

fickle bluff
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it is

strong pilot
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Yeah i don't execute in st unless i have 3 mfe stacks

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Is there a weak aura for that actually

red berry
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execute is nice to press with 3 mfe stacks but

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a crushing blow with the refresh hero talent up still hits harder

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its disgusting

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i wish they'd just buff execute flatout

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also. does TWW just not have an item that adds sockets to necklaces?

feral ivy
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tww does

red berry
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do you know the name?

feral ivy
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i did read about it but i dont sorry im in a dungeon atm but once i get out ill look for it

red berry
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you're alright, thanks

fossil rose
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Magnificent Jeweler's Setting

Think the recipe drops in raid.

stone ginkgo
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any info on running 2x radiant power? is it bugged or does it work fine.

red berry
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ahh. that tracks.

feral ivy
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ah perfect someone found about it

calm quartz
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560 arms executes hitting for 1.6m

strong zephyr
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Is that the legend herself @red berry

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Fury gets spinny back and vy playing wow again

outer umbra
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this portion loading for anyone else? curious to know what the top 5 or so races are for fury

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its the wowhead guide

gaunt moat
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nah bro the quest where we burn memories of the dude's little brother is hitting too hard

latent hedge
warm crag
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me when i lie

outer umbra
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i come here seeking the truth and im led astray by a fellow warbro

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i cant go on like this

storm rune
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Just know that raidbots isn't updated, so things have been altered

silk coyote
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Anyone have a youtuber they swear by that goes over Fury rotation and further in depth raid and M+ stuff? Wanted to see a visual representation of the rotation.

stone ginkgo
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Bajheera ofc

still berry
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just use hekili keks

next canopy
storm rune
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well it's also your best filler

next canopy
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I just been using as filler

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Wasnโ€™t even tracking stacks

storm rune
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so you can prio it over BT/RB Ramp

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and AJ stacks are good to keep rolling

fickle bluff
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execute is not better than rb

storm rune
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oh sorry

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meant rampage

gaunt moat
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mostly pvp boys or ppl trying it out but i've issues finding good ones

warm crag
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jeventes has one iirc i have no idea if its actually any good

silk coyote
summer quail
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madox also has a guide, not seen it personally but i'm sure it's good

gaunt moat
silk coyote
silk coyote
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thanks all

next canopy
strong pilot
gaunt moat
strong pilot
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I think so atleast

safe cradle
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Any consensus on what to use sparks of omen on yet or nah

pallid wing
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quick question, is it not worth talenting into odyn's fury for single target?

still berry
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odyn go brr

storm bough
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any suggestions for a clean, enrage bar weakaura?

hasty pagoda
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any1 know if a rare drops a 2hand somewhere?

still berry
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so what talent treet are people using at 80 rn?

dense shard
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Using the Mythic+ ones, mass pulling and nuking shit down

hollow ridge
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you can get ur full spark now via the quest in town now

restive peak
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Huh?

dense shard
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Yep just got my spark too

restive peak
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Things I do not believe; this. What quest?

fathom plank
dense shard
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By the forge in the main city, quest to trade 1 spark fragment for 2

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Purple quest

hollow ridge
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quest in town next to catalyst

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just dropped

fathom plank
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thx

still berry
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i was thinking of just using the leveling delve talents until s1

dense shard
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Slayer pulls ahead in ST in dungeons

sharp tusk
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is the spark crafted 2h everforged greataxe for fury going to be better than most things for the 1st tier?

red berry
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im mentally ill

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good to see u though buddy been awhile

sacred stream
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We still need two sparks for craft 2H, right?

hollow ridge
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correct

sacred stream
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ty. wasn't sure if it changed for TWW

wanton cliff
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Dung bettle that pats in the air

safe juniper
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crafting spark weapon first makes sense yea ?

sharp tusk
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so basically its bis main hand until i get a mythic track item that goes in the mainhand?

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then greataxe goes to offhand

deep copper
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hi guys, war fury atm is it good ?

wanton cliff
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Its fun atleast

deep copper
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just fun ? it's sad..

dense shard
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The burst aoe is pretty lit

opaque cypress
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its very good

unreal onyx
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it is good

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idk where the "just fun" is coming from

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sounds more like a skill issue chatting

dense shard
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I think Arms is the chad spec, but Arms has too much button bloat for me in its current state, so Fury it is

wanton cliff
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I didnt say just ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

dense shard
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@wanton cliff Did that 577 weapon drop as 577 or did it upgrade

feral ivy
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since we just got our full spark should we make our wep?

cinder hornet
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Need two sparks

unreal onyx
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you wanna play smf? ratge

wanton cliff
dusky moon
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BLIZZARD

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WHAT T

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THE

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F9AE U90-QAEWFY UQWE9-RF UWE9- FU-aw e9-WE0 Uwejf

sharp tusk
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yeah well get the 2nd spark day of raid opening

dusky moon
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I HAVE TO REWRITE MY ENTIRE GUIDE

deep copper
real warren
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oof

feral ivy
sharp tusk
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yes

unreal onyx
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yes

brittle crow
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omg larias hi!

dense shard
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Orders are broke so I cant make my 590 weps ๐Ÿ˜ข

brittle crow
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what changed

feral ivy
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ah okay tyty

unreal onyx
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2 hands for a weap = 2 sparks for a weap

dusky moon
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SPARK IS AVAILABLE THIS WEEK

feral ivy
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that sucks

unreal onyx
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1 spark per hand

dusky moon
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WHICH CHANGES MY CRAFT ORDER

sharp tusk
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so its mainhand wild hammer at 639 from grim batol and 636 offhand embellished crafted axe?

unreal onyx
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did blizz say no spark this week?

upbeat sentinel
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I guess we ballin?

real warren
sharp tusk
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alright sweet

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just future planning lol i thought m+ gear didnt go to 639 did they change that?

warm crag
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vault goes p high idk if it goes to max this tier

real warren
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Would be from Vault i assume.

sharp tusk
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ah so assumning i get lucky lucky lol

warm crag
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any max ilvl 2h will do

still berry
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did we get any cool new glpyhs?

warm crag
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ip grabber

unreal onyx
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pls no ban

warm crag
unreal onyx
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I just wanna help

warm crag
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@oblique trail

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punish this man!

unreal onyx
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noooooooooooooooooooooo

warm crag
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for he is german

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strike him down for he has sinned

unreal onyx
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sez the german

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benzai asleep

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ip grabber stays up

humble adder
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so umm u bois crafting the weapon correct?

unreal onyx
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what weapon

humble adder
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j a 2h with the spark

unreal onyx
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you can't

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need 2 sparks

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as usual

dusky moon
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they just added in a 2nd spark

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like

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5 minutes ago

sharp tusk
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so any 639 mainhand is gonna be better than the crafted weapon even if its crit mastery over haste mastery?

dusky moon
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thats why im yelling

humble adder
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.....

unreal onyx
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a 2nd?

dusky moon
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yes

humble adder
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what u mean second spark?

dusky moon
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second half spark

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oh

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fury warriors

unreal onyx
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secnd half

dusky moon
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i keep forgetting

unreal onyx
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so 1

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total

hardy monolith
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ur in a fury chat larias

dusky moon
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animals

humble adder
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pause

dense elbow
hardy monolith
unreal onyx
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fury lootspec hs 1h, surely that means we must craft 1h weapons

dusky moon
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I keep forgetting fury warriors are weird

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i shall go rant in protection

humble adder
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so umm yall carfting anything with that juicy spark then ?

unreal onyx
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not until I can craft max ilvl

uncut radish
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is it still best to craft wep first?

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w/ the spark

sharp tusk
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yeah

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the 2h needs 2 sparks tho so 2 weeks

oblique trail
dense elbow
uncut radish
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ight

humble adder
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god i want to craft smt fellas, this blaskmithing shit starts to get boring

unreal onyx
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or just craft what you want

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i am not your dad

humble adder
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will not

unreal onyx
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it's a free world

uncut radish
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you could be

feral ivy
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we dont pay ur sub

humble adder
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will hold like a good boy i am

dense elbow
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Could be

unreal onyx
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if I had to guess, I am in the youngest third of skyhold members

dense elbow
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Probably

unreal onyx
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i am no dad

humble adder
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if ur 9 then yeah

sharp tusk
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the advice is to hold off on making any 2hs because theyre still tuning embelishments

sharp tusk
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so that can get a little weird

warm crag
sharp tusk
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and i think they take acuity

dense elbow
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60% is 35-55 bracket, 30% is 20-35 bracket, rest split on the last brackets

unreal onyx
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propably

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every warrior streamer I saw so far is 30+ and has at least 1 kid

dense elbow
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In 15 years ish, the new generation will take over the family business

unreal onyx
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which then also gives me hope to not get carpal tunnel if they don't have it yet

uncut radish
unreal onyx
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I started not early enough

keen kindle
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That or paladin

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(My dad literally plays a paladin lmao)

still berry
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all im hearing is warriors have sex

keen kindle
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SOME warriors

strong zephyr
normal crow
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Are we crafting Crushed Claymore first?

manic spindle
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What embellish should we pick up? I'm going to make the boots

normal crow
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Don't use sparks I thought?

hasty river
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isnt the boot embellish worthless without the wep one?

hasty pagoda
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yeh

manic spindle
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Oh, should I hold off?

hasty river
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ya the boot one doubles the effects of other embellishes equipped

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so no point really

vast gorge
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what trinkets should i get for pre-season?

restive peak
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Do not use your spark lol wtf

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Save it for heroic week at least when we have 2 and make wep

keen kindle
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Save it for heroic week and make a crest

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Big gains

quasi matrix
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is making 590 weapons a good use of crests rn?

keen kindle
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Read above

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Probally better to just save

quasi matrix
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gotcha. thank you

restive peak
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Well no, if you're going straight into heroic you make a 590

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These crests are giga useless

polar fulcrum
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How do you guys deal with the button bloated rotation?

restive peak
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But don't use your spark

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We do not have button bloat lol

keen kindle
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...Fury having button bloat is like ???

quasi matrix
keen kindle
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Arms is a diff story thou, espically if you decided to go collusus

flat river
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what is bro yapping about ๐Ÿ’€

keen kindle
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The only button fury gains is TC if you run thane and well

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Noone is atm soooo

quasi matrix
restive peak
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You don't even gain a button for thane, TC replaces WW lol

keen kindle
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yeah, meanwhile arms is now using SKS and ravager

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and cleave

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....the M+ build for arms DOES feel button bloated honestly

dusky moon
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๐Ÿ‘

keen kindle
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kek

brittle crow
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i finished azj-kahet

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where my dailies and weeklies?

restive peak
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Go pick your alignment

knotty python
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Well boys, fury or arms?

brittle crow
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my WHAT

restive peak
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You have to pick 1 of the 3 every week haha

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Renown vendor

keen kindle
knotty python
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Is it the posted spec on wowhead?

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Thane or Slayer?

keen kindle
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slayer

knotty python
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The wowhead spec?

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No AM?

keen kindle
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yep

brittle crow
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quartermaster has nothing

knotty python
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AM jsut feels so good pack to pack

brittle crow
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oh nvm

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there was 1 more quest to complete

knotty python
polar fulcrum
brittle crow
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huh

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i can think of like, 5

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xd

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outside of cooldowns ur entire rotation is 4 buttons

polar fulcrum
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13 spells

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those "cooldowns" are like 30 seconds

brittle crow
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we have 0 30 second cooldowns

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1 45 sec cooldown

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ig 2 if u count bladestorm

brittle crow
polar fulcrum
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Bloodthirst, raging blow, rampage, execute, slam, whirlwind, bloodbath, onslaught, crushing blow, bladesetorm, spear, etc

brittle crow
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bloodthirst is bloodbath

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raging blow is crushing blow

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slam isnt real

polar fulcrum
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so we use whirlwind instead?

brittle crow
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unless ur in pure single target, in which case slam is handled by a macro

polar fulcrum
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ok

brittle crow
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so ur pressing the same button either way

polar fulcrum
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what about thunderclap with Mountain Thane?

brittle crow
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we dont play thane

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but clap replaces whirlwind

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in its entirety

still berry
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thane master race

polar fulcrum
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oh ok

brittle crow
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if ur worried about button bloat fury is def not the problem tho xd

polar fulcrum
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I see

brittle crow
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if u want bloat go play like. brewmaster

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brewmaster has 60 buttons they need to bind

polar fulcrum
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and I can macro the cooldowns on fury right?

brittle crow
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no

polar fulcrum
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really

brittle crow
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yes

covert blaze
brittle crow
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zhai no

covert blaze
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might be suboptimal

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depending on what you are doing

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but you can

warm crag
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ya zhai

restive peak
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I also think you're not understanding BB+BT and CB+RB are the same button

dusky moon
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@coarse nest @dire badge

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lmao

coarse nest
thorny peak
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i need the devs to buff thane even harder

warm crag
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idk have you heard the slayer strike sound effect

static rock
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do pacts matter much in the long run?

open storm
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thiose events for all the resonance stones are those weekly events ?

thick kayak
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what are our thoughts on the tier set bonus

urban drum
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what hc trinks we farming lads

latent hedge
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the cool ones

urban drum
thick kayak
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the bee one and shadow whisper ones are bis at 580 according to AMR

open storm
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where do we choose the contracts for a faction for the week

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i cant find it anywhere online of where to actually chose that

halcyon tulip
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is crafting gear still mandatory like in df?

restive peak
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Like embellished gear or crafts in general?

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Cuz yes embellishments on 2 crafted pieces are back and they're needed

south kraken
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Thereโ€™s no way to not use thunder clap as thane?

summer quail
south kraken
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F lol

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Looks like fury will be a lot more popular than arms?

summer quail
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as always

south kraken
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Ty sir!

south kayak
summer quail
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nahh

rotund steppe
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man i love this

modest condor
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puzzlebox but it transforms you

south kayak
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looks cool but sadly it's 2m

real jay
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how accurate are the trinkets siming?

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guides say arakara and skarmorak, but sim says arakara and overclocked gear

sacred stream
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Has anyone here heard about the panic patch?

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Evidently there was an "unpatchable" issue with crafting and they couldn't fix it without disabling servers or pushing the patch, so they pushed the patch. Would explain why sparks were pushed tonight

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Also hunters and DHs are complaining about power changes without patch notes. Very curious

covert blaze
real jay
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thanks

south kayak
viral jasper
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optimal stonevault run lol

covert blaze
rotund steppe
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tf

meager void
viral jasper
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demo lock inting

covert blaze
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sir that is not a demo lock

sullen dove
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why must i be subject to this

oblique trail
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very powerful magus

sullen dove
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its weird like as fury im ripping like 4mil dps on pulls with my cd like its nothing

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but like 95% of the players i encounter are incapable of hitting buttons

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i guess

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tblast prot op ig

oblique trail
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From personal experience, you'd be surprised by how many people who are very much not good at pressing buttons

south kayak
oblique trail
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(myself included)

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I did a few dungeons on my mage as Arcane, having never played it, and I realised how dookie I am at that spec, so I can imagine how other people who haven't played as much as me might struggle playing their classes

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Some specs also are just cbt in Norm/HC dungeons

south kayak
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Arcane mage is probably the most convoluted spec

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especially with the sunfury spec

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tracking so many things

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is this quest real?

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these things barely spawn

sullen dove
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that was ass

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yeah

sacred stream
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SAME

sullen dove
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just keep on flyin

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swapped to steady flying

sacred stream
sick viper
oblique trail
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I played Frost in Legion

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So wouldn't know

south kayak
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Arcane is fun to play, I think

sick viper
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arcane fucked pretty hard in Legion

south kayak
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I like spamming barrage at the end of pheonix

sick viper
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the rotation is dogshit now from what I've seen

south kayak
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I don't like the fact that you don't let Missiles finish casting rn

covert blaze
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hello banezor

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how you doing

oblique trail
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hello

sick viper
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idk how mfs enjoy arcane mage or enhance shaman

oblique trail
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I am doing bad (woke up at 3 am and decided to level my alt)

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and now I'm doing FF dailies instead

latent hedge
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enh was fun last patch of SL

south kayak
latent hedge
south kayak
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arcane is diff

sick viper
south kayak
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yeah it's so fun ignoring lava burst

vale relic
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Is there talents out for fury? I can't really find anything anywhere that's update

south kayak
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WoWhead

vale relic
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aight thanks

sick viper
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any class that is rng proc based just feels dogwater to play

sick viper
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except maybe outlaw rogue

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idk I fw pirates

south kayak
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I like Outlaw rogue but I definitely do not like it when I have to spam SS without any procs

sick viper
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only valid rogue spec imo

south kayak
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sin is valid

sick viper
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It's def one of blizz's favorite specs

dense elbow
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If I wanted to play gamble spec, I would go arms and let fate decide if demo crits or not

south kayak
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Will it to crit

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it's that simple

calm quartz
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manifest it

dense elbow
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Just need the whole raid to believe in me; to channel the power of friendship

sullen dove
#

i like when dungeons force swap you to diff specs cuz you keep your gear from previous spec

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particularly weapons

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shield 1hand and 2hand just chillin

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even if it fucks up your macros

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(doesnt recognize i have avatar talented in an avatar macro when i force swap from prot to fury or vice versa in dungeons)

south kayak
#

Would be nice if prot pala gets to use 2h weapons with a shield

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was like that in d3

dense elbow
#

Prot paladin and 2h as 1h.. wut

I rather they just focus on the 2h hammer fantasy of paladins for Holy gladge

sick viper
#

titans grip should let us wield two shields

delicate yacht
#

Anyone have a weak aura to track enrage status and whirlwind stacks?

vale relic
#

enrage tracker

static rock
delicate yacht
#

yeah i'll mess around with it, maybe it will be simple

nocturne dragon
#

Guys ummm... I just saw the talent build for fury slayer... why are we not taking the normal sudden death again? just waiting from the slayer talent proc only (after the 3 slayer strike)?

gilded pawn
#

yeah

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execute itself isnt very strong

nocturne dragon
#

while it's not very strong isn't sudden death also enhance the bladestorm a bit? or the extra 3 tick is not really worth it?

willow cradle
#

You get that when consuming marks

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So the free sudden death already covers that

south kraken
#

What would I drop for thunder clap in thane?

wanton mirage
#

do we have a general consensu what to craft first?

willow cradle
#

Weapon's usually a safe bet, especially since weapon embellishment looks like bis currently

wanton mirage
#

should i send carved crest for that?

strange sedge
#

tclap on cooldown or wait for 2 stacks of thunder blast?

brittle crow
#

they dont stack

molten wing
#

i'm pretty sure if you are crafting a weapon you need 2 sparks anyway so you cant do it now

eternal sundial
#

Assuming it works like it did in DF ye

molten wing
#

mm yeah 2 sparks

native saffron
#

Guys which one is more priority?

Casting bloodbath + crushing blow before next rampage to not waste procs, or
Castimg rqmpage to avoid overcapping even if there are available procs of bloodbath, crushing blow, sudden death?

eternal sundial
#

RA > rampage

willow cradle
#

Unless you're about to drop enrage you consume both stacks

native saffron
#

Ok thank you

reef finch
#

Hi, best Race for dps minmax?

brittle crow
#

is this the part where i say if you have to ask then it doesnt matter for u

formal scaffold
# gilded pawn execute itself isnt very strong

I've been noticing this, and probably overly prioritizing it since I'm coming from Ret. When should I be hitting Execute? I need to beat the "it's glowing and therefore a priority" habit. ๐Ÿ˜„

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Is it just filler for the most part?

mint shuttle
#

Hi guys qquestion abou rotation, do I always rampage if I dont have any reckles abandon procs up or only at thertain rage threshholds/ or if im not enraged?

brittle crow
#

if u have no RA procs up, and ur not full on rage

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and ur enraged

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u press RB

south kayak
#

Same question twice in a row

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I love launch

brittle crow
#

in st i think u use it over ramp if ur not gonna overcap

formal scaffold
#

Got it! Thank you!

brittle crow
#

and u cant rb

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rb takes prio

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though in aoe

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it actually DOES take prio over rb or bt

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which, feels weird to me

#

but thats what archi says

south kayak
#

What does

#

Rampage?

brittle crow
#

exe

south kayak
#

susge

brittle crow
#

archi puts bloodthirst suspiciously low on the aoe prio list considering the mini bladestorm does big dam

#

i dont trust that being correct

south kayak
#

"big" xdd

brittle crow
#

big!

molten wing
#

i just press BT because it looks cool to spin regardless of prio ๐Ÿ’ช

formal scaffold
#

Wait -- I may have missed it. I thought you said in aoe it's filler. Did you mean in single target it takes prior over rb or bt? Or is rb/bt just even lower in prior in AoE?

brittle crow
formal scaffold
#

Ahhh. Thank you!

grand estuary
#

Exe makes bs hit more so if imagine that's why

brittle crow
formal scaffold
#

I'm probably overvaluing being constantly Enraged then, and should just let Rampage do its thing.

brittle crow
#

not exe itself

formal scaffold
#

Since I'm probably hitting BT too often as well.

brittle crow
#

final answer

formal scaffold
#

Awesome. Thank you!

brittle crow
#

ig bt being low on st prio makes sense since rb builds crit for it

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and bt is actually pretty high on the aoe prio list

#

yea this makes sense

south kayak
#

Are crafting orders still down?

molten wing
#

they are up on EU it seems

#

poor AH man , i would love to see the stats for it and how many auctions per minute are happening

supple iron
#

How accurate is wowhead with gearlist? because what i have seen its possible to get pretty much every piece with master/haste, but the list seems to mix with vers haste etc. is there some cap that I have missed or something?

eternal sundial
#

You dont need everything to be one stat

willow cradle
#

The Sim apl are not complete yet so it's not guaranteed to be exact

supple iron
molten wing
#

most of the times it is

willow cradle
#

Pm ye

keen kindle
#

Do we have an ETA on Sims for warrior?

supple iron
#

Thanks for quick answer guys ๐Ÿซก

willow cradle
keen kindle
#

The hope is before keys launch

#

But Sims are rocket science probally

oblique trail
#

They'll be ready by the time you need them

still berry
#

does it matter which quest i choose at the end of the campaign?

eternal sundial
#

Nah

wary ginkgo
#

anyone havea good gearing guide?

eternal sundial
#

By @dire badge

sharp tusk
#

just checking, unbridled ferocity just isnt really worth it anymore right?

#

for ST

eternal sundial
#

You still use it

#

Dont have much better shit to get

sharp tusk
#

with the 1 point in critical thinking?

summer quail
#

critical thinking is ass

sharp tusk
#

more ass than a 20% proc nerfed to 6%?

summer quail
#

yes

wary ginkgo
#

is there a list any where of the bis items for fury?

eternal sundial
#

Wowhead guide

wary ginkgo
eternal sundial
#

Well it doesnt have a definitive HC dungeon bis list

#

But that inherently doesnt matter beyond next week

south kayak
#

Anyone else love theater

buoyant salmon
#

there isnt really a list of bis items for wow

#

thats just not how the game works

eternal sundial
south kayak
#

remember titanforging

buoyant salmon
#

no i was like 12 bro

south kayak
#

lmao

buoyant salmon
#

maybe 14 in late legion

#

but i stopped playing right before argus came out

south kayak
#

so you're like 20 now?

buoyant salmon
#

in october yeah

eternal sundial
#

Jesus im older than you critcake

south kayak
#

sheesh

buoyant salmon
#

old fuck

formal scaffold
#

Now I feel ancient. ๐Ÿ˜„

buoyant salmon
#

im like a month older than the official release of wow

south kayak
#

i'm 8 years older than you critcake

formal scaffold
#

Meanwhile I played the official release of WoW.

summer quail
buoyant salmon
formal scaffold
#

...in high school. :/

buoyant salmon
south kayak
eternal sundial
summer quail
#

i'm super young at 27, imagine being 28 @south kayak

buoyant salmon
#

its kinda funny bc you could be like 10 when wow was released and play it

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or be like 40 when wow was released and play it

south kayak
buoyant salmon
#

so idk u could be anywhere from 30 to 60

formal scaffold
eternal sundial
#

Id send so many shit gifs in work discord

formal scaffold
#

Game dev is a weird field.

south kayak
#

imagine accidentally buying this

formal scaffold
lofty delta
#

wait we got a second spark half??

#

or is that just NA things?

south kayak
#

Why would only NA get that

molten wing
#

we all got it

south kayak
#

everyone gets it

lofty delta
#

where?

south kayak
#

I see nothing

#

Nice eyes

south kayak
#

my discord is freaking out

edgy python
#

are you guys upgrading 571 gear now?

sudden tusk
still berry
#

which pact did everyone choose?

lofty delta
#

BOMBS

south kayak
#

pacts are cosmetic mostly

eternal sundial
#

First one cuz best mount

south kayak
#

which one is that

lofty delta
#

I can't find the second half spark quest

brittle crow
#

so do delves have any actual place in gearing

#

or am i just gonna be delving for fun

#

and achieves

molten wing
#

right now no

#

when season 1 starts

brittle crow
#

not rn idc about rn

#

gear meaningless rn

molten wing
#

tier 8 delves is the cap for rewards give Champion track gear

#

and count towards the vault for Hero track gear

sudden tusk
molten wing
#

but that's with the key so its not unlimited

brittle crow
#

i still dont have any keys where do u get em

molten wing
#

just do the weekly events its 4 keys from them alone

#

and some more from the special assigments you unlock

brittle crow
#

wats a special assignment

molten wing
#

stuff like this

brittle crow
#

6 hours left?? do i have to do it rn

#

or be behind forever

molten wing
#

its just a screnshot from wowhead i cant give you one from in game since i've done them

#

but there should be one in Hollowfall

brittle crow
#

o

molten wing
#

and one in Azj'Kahet

slate mica
#

are we going weapon with first spark?

brittle crow
#

spark(s)

#

u need 2

slate mica
#

ya saving for wepaon

pure breach
#

You can find a quest near catalst that gives you the 2nd item to combine into a spark

molten wing
#

its kind of hard to miss it , its a big purple quest right in the middle of the map

rotund flume
#

sorry i might be stupid, but where do i get the 2nd half of the spark? i got half from the worldsoul quest

molten wing
#

there should be a quest in the middle of Dornogal that gives you the second half

south kayak
#

Daily buff Thane ST post

fading sky
#

โค๏ธ yes

coral zealot
#

should we craft 602 weaopn or not?

young swan
#

need 2 sparks for that bud

#

we're not crafting shit until heroic week

coral zealot
#

ok cool

#

so keep spark

young swan
#

yar

lofty delta
#

not even heroic week right, that's next week isn't it?

#

it'd be mythic week no?

young swan
#

heroic week is the reset after next

lofty delta
#

oh, so next week is more hc dungeons? I thought it was heroic week next week and then mythic week on the 11th

young swan
#

raid release is the 10th

lofty delta
#

oh nice, i can craft my weapon before raid then

young swan
#

yeah should be able to

coral zealot
#

fk sake

#

crafted 2 x 590 1h instead

young swan
#

๐Ÿ’€

young swan
#

always triple check that stuff

coral zealot
#

just crafted 2 x 2h axe now

final birch
# young swan always triple check that stuff

When I first started playing it was in s1 of df and u dropped these matrix items that upgraded your shit to like 385 and I crafted int weapon by mistake since I was prot back then

coral zealot
#

thank god

final birch
#

Xddd

eternal sundial
#

With spark

final birch
#

Did he

#

Lmao

brazen cloud
young swan
#

we have 1

final birch
#

Best part is I had no clue what to craft and a friend recommended me what to take since he was crafter

brazen cloud
young swan
#

thats 1

brazen cloud
#

OH mb gotcha thought shards

young swan
#

all g

sand crest
#

got a hafl spark from weekly quest, where do you get the other half spark?

sudden tusk
#

down by the big forge is another quest shold be marked on your map

civic echo
#

so is every1 jsut sending their weather harbinger crest

wary cloak
#

Iโ€™ve used all 270 on crafts

civic echo
#

yeah i was ghonna get some stuff crafted but the crafting order thing has been down all day

wary cloak
#

Sitting at 586 rn chatting

coral zealot
#

586?!

#

im at 577

civic echo
#

sucks, i wanted to get a weaponc rafted

#

can i still get some1 to craft without the table being on

wary cloak
#

Errr not at 590

autumn halo
#

So there is absolutely no way to make a 590 crafted 2-hander? Not even with the enchanted crest upgrade?

wary cloak
#

If you can craft it yourself

#

Yes you can

autumn halo
#

... otherwise?

wary cloak
#

If you canโ€™t craft it yourself. No

autumn halo
#

RIP

#

thank you

civic echo
#

i'll just wait until they fix it i guess then

#

no rush

wary cloak
#

Itโ€™ll be fixed pretty quick I think

gritty herald
#

what uptime are we talking about? in DF average blue silken lining was 60% uptime in raid and 40% in keys, so I don't wanna read that and it's like "oh it's better if you have 90%+ :P"
basically I am looking what to craft if I wanna play both fury and prot

rose vessel
#

serial prot flexible player here, how much of a DPS loss is SMF

#

and if I was to pick it how do I take something off

#

I guess for raid ST I take Vicious Contempt off and for multitarget ashen juggernaut?

#

(using the WoWhead slayer set up)

coral zealot
#

erm yes u can

#

ive just had 2 590 axes crafted

summer quail
#

prob a bit more in aoe

rose vessel
#

Just means I gotta be on par with the rotation and keep my secondary stats under control by crafting my rings/neck like always.

#

Raid pregame hot tip: 1 cup of water, one entire ginger root, 1tsp of wasabi, blended till smooth. Good luck sleeping through the guides after you drink that shit

devout holly
#

Hola. I am switching from ally to horde. what's considered the best horde race for m+? ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

#

(yes I know I probably don't need to min-max it, but I would like to)

radiant plank
#

idk tauren or smth

#

extra stun

summer bobcat
#

when will i be able to craft my first slot

rose vessel
summer bobcat
#

nothing can beat Maghar tho

rose vessel
#

Oh yeah I agree man, I mean who can compete with the vulpera? I mean just the ability to set your hearthstone anywhere on the map and that big self heal is just so cash

summer quail
#

@dusky moon pls undo the "idiot fury" part in your document, was way funnier before

indigo arch
#

What's lookin like the move for m+ embels, double duskthread?

#

ascend looks kinda ass for m+

trail bane
azure lichen
#

Anyone know what the new Embelishment remover item is?

hybrid karma
azure lichen
#

lmao Smart

#

Thank you!

hybrid karma
autumn halo
#

Heyho!

Sorry, I did not find the info in the FAQ: What's the best Darkmoon Deck for Fury right now?

icy topaz
#

Exodia deck

sudden tusk
#

do you want to move it or remove it

#

yeah im looking through edit mode and im pretty sure you cant

#

since it dynamically follows your character around

oblique trail
#

Pretty sure it's only a case of having it or fully removing it

#

And no customisability outside of that

sudden tusk
#

its probably becuase its dynamic conpared to alot of other things

#

if i had to guess

#

its called Personal Resource Bar in the settings

#

just click it off and it goes away

rose vessel
grizzled granite
#

are darkmoon deck trinkets any good for a fresh 80 char ?

sudden tusk
#

they are decent, but id reccomend just farming the trinkets from Heroic they are better and save you gold

lofty delta
#

Is there some sort of list of good to bad for hc trinkets?

south kayak
#

The only trinkets worth something are sac and the shard

lofty delta
#

Yeah, just checked wowhead, shoulda done that first

#

I deleted a shard... I need to recover that now.

south kayak
#

lmao damn

lofty delta
#

I've had like 3 of them xD

#

Wasn't thinking too hard cause HC dungeons..

sudden tusk
lofty delta
#

I've got the sac, will be recovering the shard or getting a new one

#

And also 585 so I'm set for mythic 0's

static ridge
#

what class do we think will be top 3 for both melee and caster for tww ?

#

for both raid and m+

storm lantern
#

For warriors? Earthens ๐Ÿ˜„

static ridge
#

for how many reset for raiding do we know how good fury warrior will be for raiding

molten wing
#

i'm pretty sure you are fine whatever class you play considering you are not pushing top 100 ranks

rose vessel
#

I think the heroic raid clear will balance pass, and then the 4p will balance pass

#

and then nothing for 3 months

static ridge
#

i didnt had blue logs since shadowlands season 1 so i am unsure what type of dps class i can play good to try to get blue logs again or better then blue

rose vessel
#

bark bark bark why am I typing I am just so happy playing SMF

static ridge
#

any idea ?

#

i like to use hekili i feel i do better dmg with it

lofty delta
#

Picking the meta class won't get you there. You're also unlikely to be raiding at a level where meta matters. You are what matters.

#

Also helkili is a crutch. You're better off learning why a rotation functions as it does instead of following an addon

#

It's a worse start but a much higher skill cap

devout holly
#

are there any trinkets you guys are farming for atm?

lofty delta
#

@devout holly

sudden tusk
#

yar

devout holly
#

Oh nice, cheers

lofty delta
#

I got my restoration so I'm set.

lofty delta
#

Just practise and ignore any naysayers. You'll get there. The guides in wowhead and maxroll explain the rotation well. If you got questions on why certain things are done people here will be happy to answer

south kayak
#

Now for shard, that's a worse farm since you can't just leave after first boss lol

#

can also hope for the neck at the same time though

quiet rock
#

So is Slayer looking like the best build right now? Mountain Thane is fun, but it seems to be underperforming.

summer bobcat
#

yea

south kayak
#

It's only underperforming in ST, it's as good if not better for aoe than Slayer

quiet rock
#

All those stuns...so fun

summer bobcat
#

where should we get the spark from to craft our first gear

sudden tusk
sudden tusk
summer bobcat
south kayak
#

I'm just chilling

sudden tusk
#

i spent a few hours doing follower dungeons to try and get the 593 polearm...

#

no luck

south kayak
#

Do you upgrade this one to 593?

south kayak
sudden tusk
#

funnily enough i made a video on my gearing going up in like 4 hrs. but TLDR farmed 300 Crests. crafting full 590 gear - rings/neck/trinkets then we will see what kind of delv gear i can get with 12 coffer keys before raid

#

i wouldnt send anything on trinkets tbh

#

since you can do M0s for a 593 version next week

#

but i saw a psychopath in LFD

#

dude had max upgrades on only neck and rings

summer bobcat
#

the quest says i need to hand them fractreued spark of omens

#

i dont have that

sudden tusk
quiet rock
#

You'll get them, I think your first spark comes soon after

sudden tusk
#

after complting the task it will give you pinnicle box that has your first half spark in it

quiet rock
#

At least that's what happened to me

sudden tusk
#

from there turn in the half to get a full spark

south kayak
#

at least for me it is

#

and it won't matter in the long run

sudden tusk
oak peak
#

Is there going to be a vault next week?

sudden tusk
#

so i have 3 im doing it on

sudden tusk
oak peak
#

Thanks!

sudden tusk
#

Infinity

south kayak
sudden tusk
#

Heroics/tier 8 Delvs/ M0s

south kayak
#

Why would it be open for just that

#

there's m0?

#

pretty sure that comes out at the same time as normal and heroic raid

#

so no

sudden tusk
#

next week is normal and heroic raid? or am i mistaken

south kayak
#

No it isn't

#

It's the one after

sudden tusk
#

oh i thought i only had a week til raid

#

i have 2

south kayak
#

yeah

sudden tusk
south kayak
#

you can chill pretty much lol

#

I don't hera what he's saying lol

sudden tusk
#

w/e more time to finish acheives

quiet rock
#

LOL

south kayak
#

this is a bug right

quiet rock
sudden tusk
#

not sure how to fix maybe a relog or some shit

south kayak
#

I think queueing some other diff does

#

I just changed to random heroics and fixed it

sudden tusk
#

yar

south kayak
#

prot war is fun

#

thane especially

sudden tusk
#

yeah i just bought a 1h and shield off the AH put it to 580 and just slammed dungys til i finished my farm

twilit current
#

Is there a cap on the weathered crests?

vapid tiger
#

Do slayer and thane play much different in M+? Trying to learn both, just seems like thane uses thunderclap and slayer doesn't

south kayak
#

right?

sudden tusk
sudden tusk
#

theres so many tanks in que no gruop waits more then like 30 seconds to replace

fickle raven
#

if i have alot of gold, is it worth crafting like 5-6 590 pieces?

south kayak
#

I feel unethical queueing as tank and then leaving

twilit current
junior gale
#

thats fucked up

strong pilot
#

Definitely is, had a tank and healer leave lol

sudden tusk
restive peak
#

Bro I spammed the 1st boss of ara kara and left mercilessly, fuckem

#

I went in and cleared it for them in 2m, they had my assistance xD

sudden tusk
#

the main benefit of crafted gear is getting your gear from 580 to 590 for 30 crests instead of 45 with traditional upgrades

#

then youll have an additional 90 crests the week after to either upgrade the renown track pieces higher, becuase they are vetern track, or you can spend on upgrade trinkets to close to 590 as well

restive peak
#

I'll have 450 crests from renown + weekly 90 by mid next week, so basically every slot is crafted

#

15 crafts xD

sudden tusk
#

450? where are you getting the additional like 30 from

restive peak
#

Literally every slot cuz of trinkets

#

Renowns to 11

#

All my renowns are 11 rn except severed, and that's 8, when it hits 9 I get another 15

sudden tusk
#

i have renowns to 11 they give carved not weathered at 11 p sure

restive peak
#

And I'm at 180/180+165 rn

#

So another 15 from that

#

Then 90 next week

south kayak
#

ayo

restive peak
#

180 x 2 + 90 = 450

south kayak
#

this is busted

#

1k gold and

restive peak
#

Yeah if I didn't hate tanking I'd go grab some

south kayak
#

Thane owns

sudden tusk
#

you have to complete the dungeon to get it but yeah itll be some decent money at the start

south kayak
#

I'm doing it rn, bored

restive peak
#

But yeah, my alts will be in full crafted for splits, my main I'm not wasting the gold

#

Cuz mains get funneled hard

#

Full crafted+sacbrood/skarm shard = goat'd 1st day

sudden tusk
#

im still confused on how you ahve +165 crests

#

ive done literally everything and im at 315

restive peak
#

Fuck picture cut off

#

and 9 w Severed = 15 more

sudden tusk
#

some of that 180 is counting for that 165

#

unless you spent 180 already

restive peak
#

Yeah I did

#

Maybe I hit a bug somewhere, idk, but this char will have 450 somehow someway

strong zephyr
#

Logging off for two weeks angle

#

Jk we got more renown to get

restive peak
#

My other chars are 90 short, I must have hit a bug. Interesting...still, 360 crests across my other chars

sudden tusk
#

idk the only way its possible is if becuase i wasnt capped on crests i got quest rewards that added to that limit not sure

restive peak
#

so 14 crafts

#

14 crafts + 2 trinkets = basically covered anyway, just can't upgrade the trinkies

sudden tusk
#

whats your gear rn/ enchanted crests

#

im baffled its gotta be a bug i guess

restive peak
#

This char is wearing 6 crafts rn

#

But my others will have 390, not 360, after next week

#

This char will have 450, it's DEF a bug

#

Gonna report it myself so I don't get giga fucked like Naowh LOL

sudden tusk
#

eh not like the gear matters just weird

restive peak
#

True

sudden tusk
#

what do you mean naowh didnt get fucked at all

restive peak
#

Thank god for that

sudden tusk
#

all the exploiters got to keep everything

restive peak
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He lost his gear didn't he xD

sudden tusk
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what the +2 bullshit?

south kayak
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how did he lose it

sudden tusk
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if he got that removed then he knew what he was doing

restive peak
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Nah he woke up to his gear removed but he still has all the renown lvls and shit

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IDK exactly, he posted a tweet or something

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Either way gear means nothing to them