fury

[upbeat sentinel]

Frost DKs are fucking monsters

[heady saffron]

🙏

[sullen dove]

heroic dungeons buffed pawg

[ionic raptor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1155731369952034896/bongofury.gif

[south kayak]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/heroic-dungeon-gear-buffed-to-571-adventurer-1-8-346170?utm_source=discord-webhook uh oh

[brittle crow]

pawgs..

[nocturne sonnet]

anyone else keep getting one handed weapons from caches n stuff? second time I got a onehanded 574 weapon 😦

[next canopy]

I saw a DK riding around on his horse… wtffff

[brittle crow]

whats ur loot spec

[next canopy]

Fighting

[brittle crow]

set to

[nocturne sonnet]

fury

[brittle crow]

yea

never do that

set it to arms, keep it on arms

[south kayak]

Are the weekly quests/events available now?

like the theater or spreading the light

[nocturne sonnet]

I wish I knew that beforehand

why would fury spec give onehanders?

[brittle crow]

cuz fury can use onehanders

congratulations, you fell for the classic fury warrior blunder

happens to everyone once

[nocturne sonnet]

isnt it heavenly implied we use 2hs though?

[brittle crow]

yes!

[nocturne sonnet]

haha thanks I guess, basicly got back to wow for this expansion to a class I havent used in a while

[dusky moon]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-P988ibclxaKCGrAcrx_v1X-hLdkCVUgy_ZFPzLNn_s/ updated with Heroic Loot ilvl change.

[brittle crow]

omg is that the real larias from Larias' Gearing Guide for TWW launch

[sullen dove]

omg is that the real larias from Larias' Gearing Guide for TWW launch

[dusky moon]

i hate warriors

[south kayak]

omg is that the real larias from Larias' Gearing Guide for TWW launch

[nocturne sonnet]

why larias?

[modest condor]

did you mean to name yourself latias but missed the t?

i wonder if any of the skyhold promoted streamers™ have drops enabled

[dusky moon]

this was in the rogue discord earlier

I've used Larias since before pokemon existed though

[brittle crow]

🧢

🍌

[tired violet]

phat ass white girl

https://tenor.com/view/yeah-hell-oh-right-on-gif-16667578

[compact knot]

so our old tier isnt disabled yet

[tired violet]

idk, havent been online today

[dense sedge]

With a cooldown macro for avatar woild I'use avatar pop trinket then Thunderous roar

[rotund ginkgo]

first HC

feelsgood

[narrow narwhal]

Stepaside

[rotund ginkgo]

someone stepped

[tired violet]

385k low af

[narrow narwhal]

I did over a million back in legion

[rotund ginkgo]

😦

darkness dung

[tired violet]

yeah should be close to a mil overall rn

[rotund ginkgo]

depends on pulls lol

[dense sedge]

Guy's having an issue with this macro sometimes when I use dungeon finder it just does not work.

#showtooltip Avatar
/cast Avatar
/use 14
/cast Thunderous Roar

[sullen dove]

Eh I mean rs mobs probably don’t live long enough in heroic for a full use of cds and tanks probably going slow but yea 600k combined overall for a dungeon seems kinda insanely low

[dense sedge]

unsure to as why

[sullen dove]

Unless that run took like half an hour or something

[astral stag]

Most times I think it messes up when you press macro while on gcd. If you press it too fast you'll only cast the spells that are off gcd (in this case avatar + trinket). I have the same issue, but just time the cast so that im just coming off gcd when i press, or just press twice

[rotund ginkgo]

dungeon damage/pull disparity is real

also the healer's dps was melee/lightning shield

[dense sedge]

Hey so it's working all the time fine, the issue is when i go into a dungeon the keybind on bar doesn;t work

Everything but avatar works, it is talented

Avatar is off cdtoo

It's weird AF only happens in dungeon finder

[astral stag]

Very weird

[dense sedge]

Thinking some kind of bug?

[brittle crow]

can pummel trigger slayers strike

it feels like it

[vivid moth]

I noticed with keybinds if I replace avatar with a macro for avatar while in an instance when I leave it would revert to the original non macro avatar

Hope this helps

[glad coyote]

are heroics just the same as normals with pulling everything to first boss and aoe it down?

or is there some hea;lth to mobs to actually dps?

[dense elbow]

Haven't checked the tuning, but it should be old m0 level. So answer is yes: but not really.

You will be able to masspull with some gear. But you won't do it the same way as your level 70 HDH in full 530 did in normals

Man, beacon 1 shooting bosses till level 73 was fun

[pulsar prawn]

@edgy widget how many ilvl needs to be upgrade the offhand for swapping fyralath (legy)

[past pivot]

read DPS-FAQ on it

[pulsar prawn]

uuh thx . didnt saw it then

ez that matches my thought. got my heroic 571 offhand 🙂

allied wristguard my last item thats still on

[gusty cloak]

playing slayer feels weird

[dense elbow]

How so?

[gusty cloak]

i leveled with mountain thane, is tehre a prio list?

[dense elbow]

CB, BB, exe pattern - guide should be updated

[edgy widget]

it's practically the same as Thane, just without TC

[pulsar prawn]

tbh slayer is soo smooth .. i wouldnt even call it different from normal fury 😄

[wanton mirage]

561 offhand gear is simming higher ST than Lego apparantly

[edgy widget]

it'll vary, but yeah you can replace the OH by 80

[rotund ginkgo]

can we pleaseeeee disable tierset

:<

[dense elbow]

Legendary scale to 600 in PvP tho, so keep it for early week fun

[rotund ginkgo]

archi do we know if/when we remove 2p2p?

[edgy widget]

something to consider is that a lot of Fyr'alath's power is in its dot, something that won't have time to tick out any meaningful damage in the kind of content we currently have available

[wanton mirage]

Pvp

[dense elbow]

All I got to do till m+ comes out

[edgy widget]

#1237307457382907924; technically not till ~M raid gear

2p S3 can be replaced sooner though, it's really hurting on ilevel

[rotund ginkgo]

then we go 4p s4?

or just 2p s4?

[edgy widget]

big OF is nice for world quests or w/e, but not great in a dungeon where you actually have to use other abilities

[rotund ginkgo]

yeah the burst is good but coming m+ it wont sustain itself on more than a 5s fight lol

[dense elbow]

5s is all we need currently

[rotund ginkgo]

CURRENTLY

keyword

@edgy widget so play 2p s4 or 4p s4?

[wanton mirage]

S3 2p is so powerful

apparantly my sim want to replace it last

it replae S4 2P and 4P faster than S3 2p

[edgy widget]

sims aren't even updated yet

not to mention, they're not reflective of any of the content currently available

[wanton mirage]

[gaunt moat]

i miss you so much...

[edgy widget]

tier is strong and will last quite awhile, just like what's already documented in #1237307457382907924

however you gotta think about the content you're doing too

[heady saffron]

holy shit is that THE Larias from Larias' gearing Guides?!

[urban drum]

im 542 with a 553 bag score. dont upgrade and retain 4p from DF? or swap some and keep two piece?

[dense elbow]

Was just discussed a bit above, tldr use old tier for a bit longer

[urban drum]

tysm

[heady saffron]

replacing legendary way before set pieces

i feel its gonna get pretty sluggish once that 4 set gets broken, or atleast gonna be quite a bit more rng to proc cold steel warm blood

[torpid sand]

Already replaced most of my gear

[dense elbow]

Why press BT when you can CB

[heady saffron]

oh heya scorp lol

[torpid sand]

But the weapons... it's hard

Gotta gear quickly for M+

Hello Merm

[pulsar quest]

Weapons were the easiest

[heady saffron]

have 580 pieces to replace tier i guess i could give it a shot for a bit

to get used to it

[pulsar quest]

Just crazy 2 weld

Weeps

Weps

Jesus Christ

CRAFT

THIS IPHONE IS CURSED

[heady saffron]

i love that fury gets cheaper upgrades on 2nd weapon

[dense elbow]

Not gotten enough stones to go full 580?

[heady saffron]

(havent played a dual wield class/spec for 1h so dunno if its the same for them)

[storm rune]

It's the same cost overall

[heady saffron]

the 554's arent on a track so cant upgrade them but i have a bit of stones for whenever i replace them

[dusky moon]

Can we ban @heady saffron

[dense elbow]

Buy BoE for 561 for 100g

But ye, no hurry

[heady saffron]

💀

its wild that 564s sell for 20x because they turn blue

[dusky moon]

https://x.com/jdotb/status/1828191962379305138?t=ZxrFvIhFrdxD25Q9N5y9iA&s=19

jb. (@jdotb) on X

welcome non-early-access players! enjoy your launch and for the love of god do not level in war mode bc there are some absolute animals in my guild that are standing on the shores of khaz algar like the germans on d-day

Twitter · Aug 26, 2024, 10:05 PM

[pulsar quest]

Literally me

I made a coalition to guard the gates of area 52

[heady saffron]

friend got his auto checked off but mine wants me to get a new key

[wanton mirage]

Can we craft charged claymore without a spark?

[pulsar quest]

Don’t think so

I just crafted two ironclaw great axes

[loud bay]

what trinkets are best to go for?

[modest condor]

same, it broke 2 weeks ago and i have to get used to a new one now

oh wait that's weakaura

i used plater

[gaunt moat]

i've been using his weakauras forever i even tweaked it but it seems like it doesn't work anymore i've to add too many things now

[modest condor]

yeah i wasnt using that weakaura package i was using their plater one

which broke with 11.0.2 i believe

[spare steppe]

rip dc'd and cant get back in

[hardy shuttle]

We got the sac right before the ddos

[restive peak]

I got sac+skarm shard in 1st 2 runs xD

On my alt warr

[south kayak]

I hate you

[restive peak]

But now I'm dc'd and stuck

[viral jasper]

Now do it again in 3 weeks

[south kayak]

I’m going to sleep

[viral jasper]

And them again with m+

[south kayak]

[upper mica]

what is the crafted gear of choice for warriors atm?

[viral jasper]

Have you heard of larias gearing guide???

[south kayak]

Have you heard about our lord and savior Larias’ Gearing Guide?

[upper mica]

no - and no 🙂

anyone got the link for it? 🙂

[wanton mirage]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-P988ibclxaKCGrAcrx_v1X-hLdkCVUgy_ZFPzLNn_s/edit

[south kayak]

I read this every day right before I go to sleep

[devout holly]

Hello fellow barbarians. Whats the best race for us at the moment for raid/m+? 😮

[storm rune]

robot chicken

[pulsar quest]

Mechagnome

[wanton mirage]

It doesn't have crafted gear of choice though. You have to go to wowhead fury guide by Archi for this

[narrow narwhal]

Male draenei

[south kayak]

Female worgen

[south kayak]

To answer your question, that’s a sim thing

[rotund ginkgo]

mog goes hard

[viral jasper]

Bro has every number showing and half of them are meaningless lol

[slim grotto]

fury bis or?

[sullen dove]

Prolly good probably but anything 2 minute sus to call it bis

[slim grotto]

ideal is 90s?

[sullen dove]

Yea

[slim grotto]

ty

[sullen dove]

To line up every cd set

But like still use it why not

May be raid fights that are just over 2 minutes it’s insane in like ashes and worst case you probably just hold it for every other cds set

[slim grotto]

compared to @sullen dove ?

[rotund ginkgo]

arak-ara is goated

[sullen dove]

Eh yea don’t rly know how good any of that proc stuff is I’d just say sim and hopefully it’s accurate

[rotund ginkgo]

and shard

[sullen dove]

And just grain of salt an on use will tend to be more valuable in aoe

[rotund ginkgo]

shard seems hella good

[sullen dove]

Oh yeah skarmorak shard is 90s mastery buff

Probably one of our better if not best on use

[manic pelican]

who broke the servers?

[sullen dove]

All the launchies playing rn

https://x.com/Dratnos/status/1828192151433605259

Dratnos (@Dratnos) on X

i'd advise war mode off if you're leveling rn

Twitter · Aug 26, 2024, 10:05 PM

[rotund ginkgo]

shard will be huge m+

[sullen dove]

Stone vault is m+ this season right

[lilac ingot]

do we really play demolish over odyns??

[rotund ginkgo]

any1 know how tf u start awakened mechanical cache?

[sullen dove]

u mean onslaught?

and for single target seems so

[lilac ingot]

yes sorry lol

cringeee

[sullen dove]

Odyns did get nerfed on prepatch which little unfort

But eh

It’s not like it’s as satisfying on st than aoe

Onslaught def way more boring but I don’t mind there being reasons to actually use both talents

one of st one for aoe

[rotund ginkgo]

do we still play OF if we drop s3 2p?

[sullen dove]

In aoe without a doubt

But I think it’s not as good pure st

no of st talents sadge

[sacred sinew]

anyone got a nice weakaura pack/simple trackers they use? (not luxthos)

[viral jasper]

Literally dancing blades

[sullen dove]

I mean no of in st talents

[viral jasper]

Ah

[sullen dove]

P sure dancing blades is dogshit

and not worth the point at all

[viral jasper]

It has been the optimal choice before

Not that crazy

[sullen dove]

Good in s3 cuz I think more annihilator and stuff and there weren’t other options

No need to take like 15 raging blow buffing talents

[rotund ginkgo]

yes, u went dancing blades cuz AF

made ur ST go zoom

[hallow cipher]

so what are good trinkets to farm atm

[rotund ginkgo]

shard/egg

[storm lantern]

Curent stats, with trash S4 tier set

[rotund ginkgo]

dawg im this close to running full s4

again

instead of 2p2p

[real warren]

S4 Tier still going crazy?

[rotund ginkgo]

i really wanna drop the damn 489s

[pastel geyser]

So Uhh, I'm checking out the guides for raid ST and the guide in the text keeps mentioning sudden death but the talent build above it doesn't take it. Am I missing something?

[storm lantern]

I don't have the 2P/2P that is optimal rn ( Altho optimal in this easy content means nothing), so yeah, i rock S4

[sullen dove]

One of the slayer talents has a built in sudden death when you get 3 slayers strikes

[hallow cipher]

thanks

[sullen dove]

And it “almost” procs often enough to keep ashen jugger up sometimes but def not all the time

[willow cradle]

Slayer hero talent gives you sudden death procs without needing the talent

[sullen dove]

so idk if there’s some value in taking the real sudden death talent

[pastel geyser]

Ah ok

[sullen dove]

Or if you just don’t care

[next canopy]

I want my money back

[sullen dove]

L

[quasi marsh]

Yeah, I haven’t been able to log in for a bit now

[next canopy]

What’s best way to get 570-580 gear?

[storm lantern]

Luck with the weekly content, avec enchanted crest craft

[next canopy]

They ruined my pre release experience and I want to be compensated

[next canopy]

So it’s not dungeons or rares?

[restive peak]

Now it's just heroics

[storm lantern]

Well, now you can farm heroics for 571 gear, upgradable

[clear wharf]

worth getting a 590 weapon crafted?

[next canopy]

Ah ok good to know

[hard widget]

All the weekly things are still not working

Feelsbad

[storm lantern]

I wanted my last few points in mining gathering on mount back

:feelsbadman:

[spare steppe]

whats it like getting into the game 😭

[real warren]

bro just log in.

[spare steppe]

im retrieving my character list

[real warren]

oh yeah

[restive peak]

This is so much easier than I worried it would be LOL

My 2nd warr is already 580 in all but 2 slots

[next canopy]

I reported blizzard

[real warren]

what're you doing to farm 580 @restive peak

[restive peak]

Heroic dungeons all plate group

[hard widget]

It feels amazing sitting at ur pc at 02:30 rethinking ur choices of logging in 🙂

[slim pollen]

We got a guild group together earlier and tried to do a +13 key as full 80 group..... We didn't really get far 😂

[next canopy]

Skill issue

[slim pollen]

So then we tried a +2, and they still hit me as a dps for 4,5mill. 2-3 shot the tank. So we gave up and went back to farming rares

[pulsar quest]

mfw my realm is the only one down

i cant farm kills on lowbies...

[lilac orchid]

Avatar macro not working. Game giving me "spell not learned" error message. Yes, I have Avatar Talented.

[rotund ginkgo]

try /cast

also cuz u need to write

[lilac orchid]

Doesn't fix it

[rotund ginkgo]

Berserking(Racial)

[lilac orchid]

Macro was working as written literally yesterday

[rotund ginkgo]

well try to write the (Racial)

otherwise idk

#showtooltip
/cast Avatar
/cast Berserking(Racial)

[lilac orchid]

Worked, wth

[rotund ginkgo]

🙂

https://tenor.com/view/drink-juice-refresh-it-is-what-its-is-playa-sip-gif-17436001

[compact knot]

classic area 52

[lilac orchid]

ty

[compact knot]

my guild group got to the last boss of cinderbrew and then it went down (im the only one in area 52)

[dark frost]

we dropping 2+2 or holding S44p

[dusky moon]

yall are terrorists

[south kayak]

A little bit of tomfoolery

[lilac orchid]

Update, still having this issue. It appears to only be when Berserking is on CD however.

[quasi marsh]

I suck at fury rotation

[next canopy]

Don’t feel bad we one of the most challenging specs in the game to play physically and mentally

[exotic glacier]

I rotate so fast that no one can see me type "im gay" each rampage

[storm rune]

press glowy buttons, feel good about yourself

fury rotation relies heavily on vibes

[exotic glacier]

fury rotation is 100% a vibe. and carpal tunnel

[rotund ginkgo]

im confused whats the issue then

that it wont use avatar when zerk is on cd?

[storm rune]

That's why the more warriors in a raid, the better your performance, we all just wind up broing out in voice

and getting them hundos

[lilac orchid]

Yes, correct. I have made the same macro with Recklessness instead and it works perfectly. So, win I suppose. But odd?

[next canopy]

Testing with neurologist tomorrow re: carpal tunnel

[exotic glacier]

neurologist?

[random raptor]

anyone have a list of bis items from dungeons?

[exotic glacier]

my guy, the expansion launched today! what could possibly have you already getting Carpal Tunnel

[hallow cipher]

do we craft a weapon with embalishment 590 ?

[next canopy]

Decades of weight training, foosball and fury warrior (only a couple years of WoW tbh)

[modest condor]

lol last expansion there was maybe meat and now there is basically beef

[manic spindle]

So the expansion is officially launched? For us level 80's, what should we absolutely make sure we do before reset?

[past pivot]

check #news

[fiery pagoda]

do we know if earthen will be good for dps warrior

[storm rune]

Not awesome currently, gets better with ilvl

[sour tundra]

why are none of the world events working

[past pivot]

what do you mean none? The ones that don't start tomorrow do

[crisp prism]

cuz they dont want to give more advantage to early access people

and dont make people rush to 80 to complete before reset

they said its gonna open next reset

[urban drum]

what are bis trinks available atm? candlestick seems decent

[past pivot]

#1237307457382907924 message

[strong pilot]

Ahh that makes sense

[random raptor]

Does it matter if you craft a 2h axe or sword?

would the dps difference be very big?

[past pivot]

Cna't craft swords without sparks. Axe today. And no, not a big difference

[random raptor]

we can do the axe?

[rotund steppe]

welp

tww is out

my sub ran out

[random raptor]

wait im confused, we can't craft a weapon yet?

[brave light]

Is there a reliable Heroic Dungeon week Pre-raid bis list anywhere? i.e gear that is available / upgradable now

[past pivot]

to 590, you can

[random raptor]

click pre-season on wowhead

[random raptor]

i have all the mats, it says i need the sparks?

[past pivot]

I said, the blue axe

Ironclaw axe

[random raptor]

ah gotcha ty

[lean heart]

this thing is so troll

[random raptor]

where can we buy enchanted crests in the new city

[storm rune]

the crafted ones?

[random raptor]

yeah

[past pivot]

enchanter order

[brave light]

Thank you very much! Missed the tab! 😄

[random raptor]

yeah but you need to buy the nascent crest to put an order for it

[upbeat sentinel]

https://gyazo.com/aeeb444c0db7d4331926cdb6dd40ccd0

Queen's Pheremone very affordable

[past pivot]

enchanter supplier

[storm rune]

near the fissure

[random raptor]

ty ty

[sullen dove]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/b4Se9DS5wR4tJmNjL5Jiwb

chat is this real

(ik in aoe spec technically)

[open storm]

we go mountain thane yeah"?

[sullen dove]

for fun if you want ye

and lil better for leveling

[past pivot]

for leveling, yes. At 80? Only to be laughed at

[open storm]

oh really

i thought mountain thane for 80 as well

[sullen dove]

[past pivot]

Like 20% less, last I heard

[open storm]

even m+?

[sullen dove]

they're more even in m+

can feasibly pick it

but doggy in raid

[brittle crow]

does unrelenting onslaught let u loot while bladestorming

i dont think u could do that before

[clever path]

I was able to snag this and the pact trinket tonight, would have rather gotten the spider egg but eh not a bad haul

[wary cloak]

The one that turns you into an ascended spider dude?

N gives like fat main stat + all seco stats for x seconds

[clever path]

No, the pact one just does shadow damage and give haste, the spider egg one gives main stat and hatches to do damage sometimes

[wary cloak]

Ohhh

[clever path]

I’m not gonna go for bis pre mythic though lol no point honestly

[wary cloak]

Nah there really isn’t I’m ngl

I mean it’s something to do… but like. Nah 😂

[clever path]

I’m just gonna go for like 585 ilvl then go into mythic dungeons essentially not caring what I put on bad long as it’s not horrible

[open storm]

what tree do we go down for on slayer to get to bottom faster

[crisp prism]

i mean i'm literally starving for content

i might farm some gear to kill time

i dont wanna see kobolds or bees anymore

[brittle crow]

consider cooking a healthy meal or taking a shower

[clever path]

Yeah I’ve eaten through a lot of the content too

[crisp prism]

i mean last 4 days all i did was farming gold

[clever path]

But I’m still enoying just taking my time doing heroics

We have two weeks don’t we till raid release?

[crisp prism]

yeah

and 3 for m+ and mythic raid

[clever path]

So like we have so much time to get some gear cause once raid hits my focus is gonna be that and mplus rating

[crisp prism]

tbh realistically we farming gold till raid and m0 release

and pray for tier set buff before the raid i guess

[clever path]

Aren’t the tier sets supposed to be bad this time? Cause they wanted the focus to be our hero talents?

[crisp prism]

i mean

did you see what archi post

[wary cloak]

If that’s the ilvl people are aiming for then I can just log out until M0 drops

[clever path]

I mean m0 drops 593 so

[wary cloak]

I’m 584 rn

[crisp prism]

tbh 575 ish is enough probably but you are most likely gonna be around 590

[wary cloak]

[crisp prism]

even if you dont do much

[sullen dove]

holy

first pull of rookery

every mob

[urban drum]

m+ talents?

[summer quail]

wonder when they will disable s3 2p

[viral jasper]

They uncapped us a bit

Love it

[sullen dove]

never

using it s3 of tww

[crisp prism]

even if dps is competitive idk if equipping that is good for stam

losing that much stam seems like a throw

[summer quail]

I will use it til they disable it. shits too strong right now

[crisp prism]

yeah it is

i'm at least using 2-2 till m0 i think

[summer quail]

fury will live just fine

[crisp prism]

having like 25% less hp in mythic raid or m+ doesn't feel like a good idea

[heady saffron]

im using 4set but probably gonna drop 2 for the 584 epic renown slots

🤔

[wary cloak]

As long as you have legs and gloves you’re golden

Cuz you got renown head, shoulders and chest

[crisp prism]

btw all the prev xpacs they disabled tier sets etc

idk why they didnt now

[heady saffron]

👌

[crisp prism]

feels like they forgot

[eternal rampart]

Meadery first pull is even juicier

[sullen dove]

havent gotten ta do yet..

[wary cloak]

wtf is your weapons

[wary cloak]

Ahhhh

https://tenor.com/view/no-yes-ok-yes-no-maybe-gif-4215261154783028917

[heady saffron]

all my valorstones i had saved went straight into them once i got them 😔

[sullen dove]

those are also crests right

[wary cloak]

That was me yesterday

[sick viper]

Dornogal dead asf rn

[heady saffron]

yah was some of the normie crests i think

weathereds*

[heady saffron]

😳

[livid hornet]

does anyone know how Slayer's Strike proc chance works? the tooltip makes it sound like more attack speed = more procs, but that doesn't seem to be the case

i wanted single minded fury to be back :(

[sick viper]

smf was never good

[latent hedge]

how can smf be back when it hasn't been a thing since tbc

[past pivot]

Back??

[livid hornet]

well because it was a thing in tbc

[sullen dove]

yall seein this effect on armor

i have like 10 pieces that do the exact same thing

u think that shit stacks?

[charred panther]

Are they going to deactivatre the ssn3 2 pce? Shit is simming better than mythic level non tier in mutli target, dungsl and patch 5 target. Not winning in ST

OF stomping for me

[sick viper]

imagine not vendoring your old gear

[wary cloak]

Imagine not just locking it away in your vault

[charred panther]

or just using the in game restoration feature

[sick viper]

Im not looking through 2 seasons of vendored loot

[wary cloak]

It’ll be at the top 😂

[charred panther]

7-9% buff in multi

big buff

highest ilvl stuff in the game doesnt beat it

not in the sim anyway

[sick viper]

it will when blizz deactivates it

[charred panther]

that was my original question

surprised they hvaent yet

[sick viper]

prolly gonna do it when the season starts

[sullen dove]

yea idk i hear ppl saying they're using s4 2pc

but im like.. how

in both st and aoe in m+ talents

its just worse for me still

lol

[summer quail]

ye i dropped s4 2p real fast

[sullen dove]

than s3 2pc

[bitter granite]

were still haste mast yea?

[sinful hatch]

No, we strength and honor

Zug zug

[amber arch]

so whats doing more dps? fury or arms?

[sinful hatch]

Fury

[quasi marsh]

Fury best melee ezpz

[lean heart]

does anyone know if theres a way to combine RB+CB and BT+BB dmg on details

[young swan]

@fickle bluff im 575 now are u proud

got unlucky with dungo drops

didnt replace like 4 pieces that are 550

good enough for now

[willow cradle]

Are sims reliable currently or do they need a bit more work?

[cold field]

So the spider egg trinket is rly good. What is best for the other trinket slot? Before m+ ofc

[young swan]

skarmorak shard

[restive peak]

Ye I got eggsac/skarm on all 3 we ball

[young swan]

for not being in a group i think I did alright

[pulsar quest]

586?? Shame

[young swan]

yeah the dude didnt have any concentration left

wcyd

[pulsar quest]

I just ran into that lol

My last order cost me 365 concentration

[young swan]

double socketed rings tho

[pulsar quest]

Huge

I got socketed neck drop

Need a cloak and bracers and better trinkets

[cedar garden]

Back to back 1st heroics and these drop. Yeah I'm ready for Mythics and Raid 🙂

if I can get 2 recrafts on my gear I think I can hit world 1 for war ilvl...still havent spent my keys yet

[restive peak]

Tier sets down as expected

Get your other loot ready bois

[hasty pagoda]

Set bonus from s3-4 done soon, no need to get them back yay

[jovial wigeon]

so with the cdr from slayer on spin, should we be sending it right away? or waiting to lineit up with rek/avatar always

[glossy hill]

why does the wowhead guide show not to take sudden death with slayer?

[jovial wigeon]

i was also going to ask that. i think it probably has something to do with how the stacking execute buff works and it ends up being bad]

[viral jasper]

Sudden death procs were already kind of filler

With slayer you get too many

[sullen dove]

game bad

[quasi marsh]

I think it's good xD

[summer quail]

this man doesn't have s3 2p

[quasi marsh]

This man didn't play s3 xD

[dusk urchin]

pre apologies for being a silly goose but fury or arms for big dam

[summer quail]

forreal tho it is good for the game. using old tierpieces is pretty cringe

[sullen dove]

[young swan]

[sullen dove]

is just me or like terts/extra shit dropping more

[dusky grotto]

i think is good they disabled the t-sets, seems kinda odd trying to fit them in

[young swan]

@jovial wigeon you get enough SD procs from imminent demise alone to devalue SD to the point where other talents are better

[sullen dove]

but keeping ashen jugger up the whole fight

ragey

[random raptor]

what's our belt enchant called?

[young swan]

it def feels like it

[hushed gust]

hey, uh... here's a question. given bladestorm's Slayer CD reduction being how it is, do we wanna try and align that with anything? in AoE, i could see wanting to line that up with Odyn's Fury to benefit off the smaller Avatar window, but it's usually a 15-20 second down time. seems a bit too long to hold onto it. of course, this is outside of intro, since- everything lines up in intro.

[compact knot]

nah this is good

using 2 pieces that are like 150 ilvl down from other pieces would be crazy asf

[sullen dove]

ok but counterpoint i like seeing natty 1.3mil crits

[compact knot]

i have my numbers turned off sadly

cant stand looking at that shit on retail

[keen kindle]

Imagine how funny it would be to see the RWF STILL using the DF s4 tier sets thou

[compact knot]

s3*

[keen kindle]

That would've been utterly hilarious

[sullen dove]

s3*

[compact knot]

and s4 technically

im pretty sure s4 2p is still really good rn isnt it

[keen kindle]

I mean

Not fury specs

Tank walks in with like 200k less hp then they're suppose to because the tier set is "better"

Immediately dies to a tank mech

[velvet mango]

has anyone found a working spell reflect essentials pack working for war within yet?

[hushed gust]

the one on the wowhead page does okay

[jovial wigeon]

ok so i guess the follow up is do we hold bladestorm?

[slim coral]

Ez

[young swan]

i think sims have it holding bladestorm if avatar CD is <8s

same should apply for OF if you're running titans torment

[hushed gust]

of course, take this as just target dummy testing, but OF is usually off CD from BS with- ignoring reduction, BS is 20-ish seconds away from second OF cast

with reduction, you're looking closer to 12-ish with median luck.

[jovial wigeon]

yeah, they seem to never be up together after pull

sudden death is almost enough to get you 2 bladestorms per avatar cd, but not quite

[hushed gust]

is that with abandon or anger management?

[jovial wigeon]

abandon. i wonder if you could get 2 bladestorms per avatar cd with AM

[hushed gust]

well- i'm at a dummy now. let's find out XD

[brittle crow]

is there a list of what can trigger slayers strikes

[hushed gust]

it's definitely not worth for sustain, but it could make your burst window better pack-to-pack

[warped bone]

Nice. Finally they tier set will be gone

[jovial wigeon]

yeah, the loss of the empowered abilities i don't think is ever worth it

unless it's 2 storms

[random raptor]

can we add gems to neck yet?

[normal yoke]

Y'all, is there any renown that's worth focusing on for us, or are they equally worth?

[clever path]

Equal if you want 3 pieces of purple gear. Other than that eh

[heady saffron]

:O

[hushed gust]

Okay. so you can comfortably get 2 storms within an avatar CD, but OF's alignment gets fucky, and you have to account for the SD reduction compared to your Recklessness.

[jovial wigeon]

i mean, it fucks avatar and of off into a seperate window

[stone raptor]

We got any bis list preseason?

[jovial wigeon]

but you have recklessness more and you have more bladestorm which is what slayer is fun with

[past pivot]

dps-faq

[hushed gust]

yeah... might be better to just use abandon. the CD alignment isn't a good trade-off for losing bloodbath.

i do wish we had room for Unbridled Ferocity, though.

[jovial wigeon]

how far off is reck from bladestorm normally

[hushed gust]

2 rampage cycles.

which is why i would want Unbridled Ferocity with it

[jovial wigeon]

i wonder if the play is hold reck for the reduced bs always, then use of/avatar as a seperate "window"

[hushed gust]

that extra proc will likely reduce it to 1.5 cycles

[jovial wigeon]

this is all cope cause i hope thane gets some buffs cause it's cooler.

but without more cdr on bladestorm, the reduction from execute kinda feels fucked up

[hushed gust]

i think the play is align OF and BS, then align Reckless, Avatar, Thunderous Roar.

[jovial wigeon]

using AM?

[hushed gust]

using Abandon.

AM's just too much on the plate, i think

and again, losing bloodbath sucks

[jovial wigeon]

but does losing bloodbath end up in more worth because bladestorm

[upbeat pulsar]

Does anyone have a weakaura to track MFE stacks?

[hushed gust]

i- would say in a true aoe situation, but there's never a true aoe situation that'll last long enough to matter. there's always something that's making you want priority damage.

[jovial wigeon]

while true, the bonus spins from bladestorm might be worth it aswell from the SD procs.

i guess it depends, are you at 3 stacks of it before each BS?

[hushed gust]

oh! no. 2 max.

[jovial wigeon]

you only get 2 execute procs per BS?

[hushed gust]

yeah. without SD the talent, though.

purely ID procs

[jovial wigeon]

i wonder if you hit 3 with SD and with the additional reduction it's viable

[hushed gust]

again, i really want Unbridled Ferocity, now that Ravager's rage intake matters for the CD, but i honestly dunno what to move for it. with SD, Ashen is only more viable, and everything else is feeding Bloodbath and Rampage.

[vivid lagoon]

I have been trying fury and arms honestly arms much better or maybe I am just better with arms

[jovial wigeon]

in what way does ravager care abour rage intake

[hushed gust]

but yeah- findings. just in a 2 minute little dummy session. you can get 3 BS's in, but you're losing alignment with Avatar immediately.

[restive peak]

Execute is not strong barring a buff bois, you don't wanna go deep into trying to make execute a big deal

[hushed gust]

sorry, i meant Rampage. spending rage procs Anger Management.

[hushed gust]

oh, of course. i'm honestly just interested to see if i can make bladestorm into a shorter cooldown. mostly just an experiment, honestly.

[jovial wigeon]

yeah, execute means more BS

if it's fucked from avatar, how far from reck is it?

cause you could just do avatar roar

and then reck and bs together when you can with BS off rip

[hushed gust]

but yeah- Anger Management with SD does give about 3 BS's before Avatar comes off CD. that 3rd BS is gonna knock it way off course from Avatar, though, so you're Avatar sting will have to be Roar+OF.

[jovial wigeon]

how much off is the third

sub 15?

[hushed gust]

closer to 20

[jovial wigeon]

[hushed gust]

low 20s i think.

[restive peak]

Marked for exec is capped, you'll only get more CDR from AM

[jovial wigeon]

correct.

[restive peak]

But I guess if it's a for fun cook, fun test to run, but it won't be stronger unfortunately

AM sadly DOA

[jovial wigeon]

it depends how far behind the more spin style is

[restive peak]

Far

[jovial wigeon]

have you tested it 🙂

[restive peak]

There have been sims running on this for weeks, it's just not super duper public cuz the APL isn't 110% done

But yes, more BS/AM is noticeably lower than any RA based build

The only place that build may be better is lower keys where packs die every 35-40s and you're onto the next

But even that's just bad and sacrificing ST/prio to have bigger overall numbers

[hushed gust]

the 2 minute test i just did was 30k behind my 9 minute warm-up. both in m+ spec in an ST scenario.

[hushed gust]

this. yeah. i said this prior.

[velvet mango]

ANY spell reflect weak aura packaged out there ?

[restive peak]

Unless you can guarantee you're hitting the exact same GCDs and such, a dummy test needs logs to really be viable, and more than 1...RNG still can cause swings, it's why sims do a shit ton then offer you the most likely scenario

[hushed gust]

check the WoWhead fury page. there's a good one there

[velvet mango]

than kyou

[restive peak]

My DF SR WA is still showing spells, I think it's just packaged to know when you're targetted so it's working

[safe current]

@bargenn

[hushed gust]

exactly why i've been kinda "grain of salting" these by stating it is a dummy test.

the difference in quick sim is pretty noticable, though. second one is AM+SD.

[jovial wigeon]

man, 5% execute damage buff blease bro

[hushed gust]

70-ish K is a pretty big difference.

[jovial wigeon]

but on the otherhand, just buff thane singletarget so we can use the cooler looking one

[restive peak]

Sim APL isn't updated either, so hopefully that's finished soon and we can sim accurately...but yeah, verifiably exec sucks and it needs a buff

It's pretty dogwater we have a hero talent, our best 1 at that, based around execute but minimally prio'ing it

It's such a mess

[hushed gust]

Fury Exec has always been comparably much lower than Arms, so it's kinda a big shrugfest for me when we have a talent that turns Bloodthirst/bath into a 35% execute as well.,

[restive peak]

Ofc, it's REALLY bad though

Like we don't even prio it once we stack jugger, that's fuckin crazy bad

[hushed gust]

in honesty, i'm freakin' surprised we're taking jugger in the suggest M+ build. the ID proc is not consistent enough for it.

[restive peak]

But as long as we remain middle to upper tier, at least we can be happy about that part

I've dropped it for cleave tbh, Revvez has, I think we'll find it may sim slightly higher in a perfect world slightly but it's not going to work in practice

A fight has to last long enough for it to stack, then be used multiple times, so it to actually be useful...I don't think that'll happen often outside raid cleave MAYBE

But even then, what do you drop? W+F is very good, BC feeds into W+F and BB being great, SS is extremely good prio dmg

[brittle crow]

wym cleave

[restive peak]

I drop it in cleave scenarios

Lol

Bad wording since arms exists 😛

[brittle crow]

xd

what cleave scenarios do u mean?

not just m+ surely

[restive peak]

M+ or raid cleave

But it may be needed for raid cleave, because of the ST component

[buoyant salmon]

also dn cleave

[restive peak]

But for M+, I doubt we keep jugger in any capacity

[brittle crow]

what are ppl dropping it for

[restive peak]

We love choco dn cleave

[buoyant salmon]

juggernaut always beans in cleave and m+

[restive peak]

Well we drop BB for pure ST because we drop roar+OF, you'll always have roar+F for AOE fights so you'll want BB

[slim coral]

what item levle you at

[buoyant salmon]

like 569

no upgrades no crafts yet

[slim coral]

same

[restive peak]

BC And W+F buff our best abilities and feed into eachother, so we need those, you want HnS to ensure you don't have slam gaps, you want SS cuz ramp is huge

[buoyant salmon]

naowh has a character at like 582 lol

[restive peak]

I finished all 3 warrs tn godbless

[buoyant salmon]

587

[restive peak]

Besides the weekly crests on next 2 resets and 2k

[last bone]

what is bis fury crafted gear

[restive peak]

I'm 585 on 1 char and 582 on my other 2 broheem

[buoyant salmon]

u got 2 weeks lmao

[restive peak]

I'm gonna mostly afk the next 2 weeks now

[meager void]

542 chad over here.

[restive peak]

We just went HAM with 5 plates and stacked tn, everyone left full 580+ w 590 crafts haha

[slim coral]

yeah you know why

he gets fed it all!

[buoyant salmon]

my highest geared character is my ww

[slim coral]

jk jk

I should be 590 soon

[brittle crow]

i wanna plate stack so bad but i cant xd

dont know enough platies

[hushed gust]

I assume BC is Bloodcraze, and W/F is Wrath and Fury.

[restive peak]

I assume we get 90 more crests on reset tm, + another 90 next week...we should be like 590ish going into heroic

[restive peak]

Yep

[last bone]

what gear do I craft as fury

[restive peak]

Luckily guild set up groups so was a vibe

[buoyant salmon]

yall had setup heroic dungeon groups

damnn

[brittle crow]

also u never said what ur dropping juggy for in m+

[compact knot]

weapons

[restive peak]

Eventually you'll want wep w ascension + nerubian armor piece, or you can do the 2 vers over 80% items for pure M+

[last bone]

ty ty

[compact knot]

the ascension + nerubian is sick

[restive peak]

I did, I said there's nothing you'd give up for juggy in regards to HNS/BC/SS/BB

[compact knot]

1800 secondary stat that cycles

[restive peak]

Ye we all wanna chill the next 2 weeks so we just wentham tn lol

[brittle crow]

not w+f?

[restive peak]

It's so much quicker to just bang it out

[restive peak]

and W+F, I explained it up above

[brittle crow]

u say we do take w+f tho

[restive peak]

This is the issue, what would you drop for jugger is the better question

We do

[brittle crow]

yea we dont in the suggested build

[restive peak]

Well Revvez and Archi have slightly diff builds, Archi is also likely going to do a huge edit as soon as the APL finishes

[slim coral]

@buoyant salmon

[brittle crow]

wait is there a miscommunication here

[restive peak]

But Revvez agrees with dropping jugger for cleave, and I assume it's the same logic I have

[hushed gust]

swap Ashen Juggernaut for Wrath and Fury. WoWhead suggests Ashen Juggernaut, but it's just not gonna hold up in m+

[brittle crow]

im saying u should drop juggy for w+f

[slim coral]

I'm juiced

[restive peak]

I was saying jugg is useless for those reasons

[slim coral]

bis trinkets already

[restive peak]

You're agreeing with me 😛

[brittle crow]

word

ok

[restive peak]

On all 3 warrs come @ me Bazed

[slim coral]

I'm playing dk war

[restive peak]

Ew

Traitor

[slim coral]

dk has sick hero talents

I had to plya it

WW has good one toos

[restive peak]

Meh, I likely won't bother with my alts once heroic splits are done

Might play my rogue or lock as the season goes on, but meh

[slim coral]

yeah we're doing 3 splits first week

[upbeat pulsar]

Anyone have a weakaura that tracks Marked for Execution Stacks?

[tall axle]

hmm do we not use sudden death? i see the build guide does not use it

[restive peak]

No

[tall axle]

for slayer specifically

[restive peak]

ID gives SD passively now

And exec is fairly mediocre now

So SD isn't valuable

[tall axle]

i find that without massacre and sudden death my stacks of juggernaut drop easily

but indeed execute could use some love

[restive peak]

Jugger is unfortunately not super valuable outside pure ST, and in pure ST it will happen often enough to upkeep it assuming good uptime

Keep in mind we're 1. not in very long fights currently 2. have extremely low haste/gear

[safe juniper]

is it normal for our Raging blow to be top damage on like ST in dungeons

[dense elbow]

NGL, can't remember checking, as normal dungs all were all trash under boss and nuke

I would presume ramp to top, tho, with its great AP value atm. PvP have severely scuffed my POV of those tho

[lean heart]

got my war to 574 im good for the week

[red burrow]

Why does blizz never take easy wins. Like condemn glyph and 2h transmog into 1h. Like can it really be that hard to code. I have toys that turn my weapons into 1h, and even my model into things that use 1h. So it doesn't sound so impossible.

[exotic glacier]

Because fun detected

[latent hedge]

gonna cost ya a raid tier

[covert blaze]

poggies

[heady saffron]

noice im still using grieftorch lol

[jovial wigeon]

y'all spending valors on upgradeS?

[safe juniper]

Daddy Im ready

[queen solstice]

couple questions for the warrior rotation in relation to the hero talents

with slayer do you wait for 3 stacks of mark for death or just blast execute whenevr it procs?

[eternal sparrow]

How TF are you 583 lol

[gleaming crag]

I honestly wish I could play arms 😕 but the burst dmg is just better right now as fury

[young swan]

full send upgrades + renown gear

[gleaming crag]

Yeah I couldn't find any haste mastery rings so I had them crafted

[eternal sparrow]

I haven't even earned enough currency for one renown peicee lmao

[queen solstice]

ah damn you gotta do them side quests promise youll have enough for at least 2

[eternal sparrow]

I gotta up my playtime. Make my chair stink

[gleaming crag]

Yeah I grinded 2/3 mounts the bee and siesbarg

Only 2/10 for the dumb gryphon

[silk wharf]

o7 tier bonuses

[hybrid dagger]

What embelishments are people crafting on their 590 gear?

[verbal vortex]

Do you keep WW stacks even on 2 targets?

[summer quail]

wdym keep? you mean if you press whirlwind on 2 targets to cleave? yes you cleave on 2targets

[verbal vortex]

Guess I was wondering what the minimum was where its worth.

[summer quail]

yeye worth on 2+ target

[queen solstice]

is avatar and or TR on the gcd?

[summer quail]

TR is on the gcd. avatar is not

[queen solstice]

and how many stacks of marked for death do you send execute on?

[queen solstice]

perf, is it worth macroing them together

[strong pilot]

for st its 3, I think for aoe just use it when you have marked for death on

someone correct me though

[summer quail]

i don't personally do so. if you macro them together have a separate keybind still

[queen solstice]

can i ask why?

[strong pilot]

st and aoe have slightly different openings, probably why

[summer quail]

what if you want to press only roar for example? like if you run berserkers torment and used reck+avatar on pull and some adds spawn in a few seconds you would want to hold roar

with the macro you just wasted your roar

[queen solstice]

oh i see yeah that makes sens e

[half hawk]

Why is icy-veins and wowhead recommending Haste/Vers as primary stat focus for Fury warr? Am I missing something, I thought Mastery/Vers was the best for PvP

[hybrid dagger]

vers embelishment doesnt exist yet?

[calm quartz]

Siesbarg my beloved

[rose dagger]

why they have to disable our 2p from season 3 D:

[dense elbow]

Jump to #pvp, but it is twofold: Build AM vs RA, winconditions - and prio on PPM values

[fast lake]

are there any simulations of pre-raid for all the specs?

[buoyant salmon]

bc ppl using old tier is cringe in the new season

[rose dagger]

I love my 2p stop it

give me 83k dps

[eternal perch]

Is fury or arms best for pve content in tww tier 1?

[young swan]

ask again after heroic week

[south kayak]

Heroic dungeon week?

[queen solstice]

absolutely

[south kayak]

[eternal perch]

Okey, if i ask, is fury or arms better for pve content right now then?

[icy pendant]

How many Valorstones you get for HC Dungeon?

[young swan]

prob like 100-ish

havent been counting

[young swan]

think most people are playing fury for the burst damage but it really doesnt matter at all

[gray osprey]

You get 10 per boss, 30 for the final boss

[wanton mirage]

Rip 2+2 you served well

[south kayak]

F

[sage shadow]

I'm 584, how are some people 587? Is there some more uncapped crests that I don't know about

[dense elbow]

Atm, while everything is squeeze out as much burst AoE as possible - Fury wins out ez

[south kayak]

Glad it got disabled though

[willow cradle]

Tbf DF S3 489 ilvl 2-piece was simming 12k ahead of TWW S1 2-piece at 639 ilvl when running OF for my character

It couldn't stay active

[dense drum]

Will y get heroic dungeon vault tomorow if u do some heroics today

[long stone]

@dense drum voult is not open for now so no progress on this

[sage shadow]

What is furys current BIS trinkets for M+ and raid?

[native wadi]

Egg

The other one is unknown and most probably situational

[native wadi]

Why would you be 584 😂

What have you done

Crest rip

[sage shadow]

It's just weathered crests

[pearl sequoia]

crafted stuff

[still wave]

Afaik as long as you don’t use carved crests you’re fine

[mighty swan]

How do ppl end up with 580 ish crafted gears ? Is there some matrice system like in df ?

[sudden tusk]

30 crests turned into enchanted crest turned into crafted gear

[vague plank]

anyone crafting? need weaps

[eternal sundial]

tradechat

ingame

[vague plank]

tried unfortunately seems dead rn

[latent hedge]

i feel like 4am est isn't the play

for that

[wary cloak]

Weathered crests go brr

Cheaper to craft than to upgrade

[glossy hill]

WHAT is better for pvp arms or fury?

[mighty swan]

So every 30 smol crests i get a 590 ilvl item basically ?

[wary cloak]

Yeah

[mighty swan]

Dang

Any slot ?

[wary cloak]

Mmhm yup

[mighty swan]

Huge

[wary cloak]

Yessir

[gloomy hound]

why is crushing blow ahead in prio of bloodbath in aoe for slayer? wouldn’t you want to go for the aoe proc asap? or is the reset more important

[native wadi]

Hits like a truck empowers rampage

But I ask myself the same question

Is that enought to justify the aoe hit low priority?

Robot still going a bit crazy

[dense elbow]

If I prio BT, reap of the storm will be around 3-4% of my overall DPS (the BT proc); if I dont it is around 2-3%

CB simply hits really really hard and cleaves

Not sure why my brain did that, but add 2% to both of those numbers

[cold field]

There is no spark this week right?

[summer quail]

it buffs the bloodbath, giving it higher crit chance and bb applies cshb

you're gonna spend both cb and bb anyway

[devout holly]

is it worth getting a weapon crafted this week?

[dense elbow]

in my head it was a question about prioing BT I ned cofee

^ also, buff warrior ST

[vapid mulch]

Buff the 2nd warrior 💀

[dense elbow]

he didnt have full PvP gear

so he is excused

[primal thicket]

same question, but also which one, and same for each hand?

[dense elbow]

best Fury Trinky setup for HC dungs, ya cant change my mind

[sacred kraken]

i am still using my lego axe

[dense elbow]

it aint halfbad on mass AoE

[oblique trail]

Assuming there's even any content that does live your CDs

[vapid mulch]

I got a 571 drop from a rare and I had the biggest smile on my face as I finally replaced that shit axe

Never ever release anything like that again

[gaunt moat]

tell them king

[gaunt moat]

is that single target dmg on a boss?

[dense elbow]

Yap

[gaunt moat]

nice

just buff thane then and we feel good!!

[dense elbow]

[final timber]

Hey guys i got 2 questions for you. First one is, should I macro my Odyn's Fury into my Avatar/Reck burst macro, or should be kept seperate?

[gaunt moat]

separate

[final timber]

and second, whats the trinkets, and weapons that should be farmed. And should I upgrade them to 593?

[gaunt moat]

muscle memory + 1min 30 vs 45sec

[final timber]

I saw that there is one for in City of Echoes but a little clueless on the rest

I'm not sure what 2 hander i should farm

[final timber]

what do you mean by that

[summer quail]

that's not the biggest reason why you should have it separate. biggest reason is odyns dot doesn't fully stack, so you end up wasting several seconds of the dot by doing so

[final timber]

thanks, that was my main issue, I wasnt sure if it did

so best case if to just wait for the first Odyn's dot to go off before popping the actually OF button and further extend my avatar state

[summer quail]

doesn't need to fully drop off, just almost. i pop it when there's less than a second remaining

[final timber]

okok

As for the trinket/weapon, any particular are interesting to get?

[summer quail]

skarmorak shard and arakara sac for trinkets. weapons just whatever has the best stats from a hc dungeon or from a world boss, no clue what weapon drops from where from current dungeons. I just know our best m+ weapon drops from grim batol but that's not out yet, grim batol also has a trinket that's about equal to skarmorak shard

[final timber]

kk

thanks

for answering

[neon nacelle]

Hi, sorry about this, 2 months without reading anything. How is warrior right now? which spec is stronger?

Ty and sorry again

M+>Raid

[hexed kiln]

be sorry

[clever shore]

is it worth buying reputation items right now?

[summer quail]

Fury very good and fun. no clue about what spec is better, can't ask things like that when raid/mythic+ isn't out yet.

[south kayak]

I have voidstone pact

How’s that

[hardy shuttle]

Void pactstone was really not good on beta. Was it part of the 50% cantrip buff or were those raid only?

[south kayak]

In wowhead, in the gear section for fury, it’s in there as one of the best dungeon trinkets

[south kayak]

It was, should be at least

[hardy shuttle]

I'd assume it's fine until you get sac. But usually mainstat wins over procs for us. But you'd probably have to just listen to the robot

[south kayak]

A small downside of sack is that it has no mainstat permanently

But you do get a proc of it

It should probably be not that good for us considering we burst for most of our damage at start

And you probably won’t have the strength buff at that point

Something to think about

Idk

[hardy shuttle]

Yeah I got no clue after the cantrip buffs. But on beta it was sac or the pvp on equip mainstat proc one plus skarmorak shard

Sac you basically do always have the buff it's just swinging around based on stacks. It's never really nothing

[south kayak]

The grim batol one is better than skarkmorak

But it’s not available rn

[hardy shuttle]

On beta the on use and the main stat were almost identical plus the other proc from the shard

Maybe in raid, but shard was considered better in beta for keys

[south kayak]

It’s not that good, considering the buff you get from killing enemies just drops off quickly before you get to the next pack

I have to say how good Hallowfall is

Possibly my favorite zone in the entire game

[safe juniper]

Im sweating now boys

About to beat Naowhl

[median marsh]

where is the weekly quest npcs thats give those quests?
i want to do it later today but i dont know where to go

[clever shore]

You bought the reputation items right?

[fading sky]

FACK ah down 😭

[fading sky]

Sweaty but WP that is A LOT of stones my man 😄

[primal thicket]

can you link your armory?

[safe juniper]

helm chest and shoulders yea, then crafted 9 590s

[safe juniper]

tyty

[safe juniper]

sure https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/character/us/stormrage/Moltytude

[fading sky]

Man u lucky with sockets

[safe juniper]

the crafted came with sockets

only the belt was socketed really

[tranquil wyvern]

do we need to keep WW in the bar while playing MT and thunder clapping?

[muted owl]

what are these rings?

[tranquil wyvern]

what is this gear xD.. is it from renown?

[plucky ice]

584 is renown

[muted owl]

I am 582 with still alot of upgrades lol, but I wonder what are these sexy rings

[tranquil wyvern]

damn nice.. then no point on doing hc

[muted owl]

yeah heroic was pretty pointless for me, lmao

but gotta do it for achievements ^^

wait these rings are craft rings, how the hell you make them 590 😭

ohh he used his crests for it

[stiff barn]

Nah, TC does what WW does , but better

[upper bane]

spending so much money on crafted gear is questionable when m0s and m+ are going to replace stuff so fast

[stiff barn]

Unless you're rolling in gold

[stiff barn]

How much did that all cost?

[plucky ice]

true but ilvl good

[stiff barn]

Number go up

[sage shadow]

Is radiant power the best weapon enchant atm

[quaint stag]

I made a 590 axe for cheap but it let me upgrade an adventure one for my offhand for zero crests. You could make one if it’s not too expensive and get free 590 off hand from dungeons

[safe juniper]

crafted 590 rings

[fading sky]

no

i mean i have 6m, that aint rolling in money. but i reckon if he chose to FARM gold first days with herb - mining he could easily afford

[sage shadow]

@fading sky What is the best?

[fading sky]

supposedly bis is haste on 1 mastery on other

but its all bound to change

[safe juniper]

yea i played the AH alot so Im really comfortable

[fading sky]

i didnt but i didnt think u could afford all that

590 rings +´maxxed weapons ?

[safe juniper]

yup

I maxed out blacksmithing every piece but the head shoulder chest on all my alts and JC on 2 toons for ring and neck and tailor for the cloak

[fading sky]

but how do u have enough marks ?

[safe juniper]

renown 9

and crest quests

[upbeat sentinel]

https://gyazo.com/58056c332410971dcf8c345ea16ab328

we abt to do some silly things

[safe juniper]

at least im not going degen enough to grind spiderland renown

OR AM I

I flipped alot of the storm dust and core alloys

bought out most of the cheap ones early and posted it when it skyrocketed

[fading sky]

core alloys ? when were they ever cheap? 😄

i made bout 500k crafting selling those

[safe juniper]

yea you be surprised people selling them like they dont need it sometimes

[spiral gyro]

What is the recommended Hero Talent for M+?

Slayer?

[fading sky]

kek

i hope every TSM user gets banned

need to remove all those automated things

[fiery hare]

It used to be 25k,now its like 3k on tarren

[fading sky]

ah rank 3 onse

[upbeat sentinel]

The addon has been allowed for several expansions now

banning them would be insane

[fiery hare]

People undercutting massively

Like stuff is up for 25k,guy undercuts to 18k,why??

[civic bobcat]

yeah ma bro. Slayer is more worth actually.

[median marsh]

for some reason i cannot start striking steel, i checked youtube and someone uploaded a vid where he is taking the quest from the quartermaster,

when i go to the same spot the quartermaster is not even there but somewhere else, and when i do go to him - he dont give me the quest (not sure if related, but i play on horde)

any idea how do i do this quest?

[eternal sundial]

Same renown?

[upbeat sentinel]

They should have reset Striking Steel late yesterday

Are you checking the quartermaster right now?

[median marsh]

no, i will when i gety home later tonight, ty for the help

[upbeat sentinel]

Ya it was impossible to get the quests on launch for some reason but they fixed

Memories of the Sky is just a time gated one

[hollow raptor]

Striking Steel appears 24 hour after u do some of the quests

memories is time gated

[median marsh]

how do i start the other one - Memories of the Sky

[upbeat sentinel]

Wait 3 weeks

[median marsh]

i think i saw some ppl did it already?

[upbeat sentinel]

They did not

[median marsh]

how do i know when i can do it exactly?

[upbeat sentinel]

Quest icon appears on your map

[hardy cargo]

Striking steel I’ve done, but I did it yesterday (NA)

[median marsh]

oo ok, tycm guys!

[upbeat sentinel]

Striking Steel was fixed yesterday, ya