fury

[manic kite]

I would like to know if profile for earthen included casting this empowered spell or is it only because this armour upgrade

[oblique trail]

For warriors at least, it's seemingly not included, however it's not a particularly strong ability either

[manic kite]

Thank you mr/s Yellow

[patent sinew]

I know the obvious answer is to Sim it... but has anyone hit the threshold in their own sims where replacing heroic raid gear for higher Ilvl seems viable?

[iron portal]

once they disable tiers you wont have to make that decision at all

[patent sinew]

👀 when's that?

[lost saffron]

@warm crag

[warm crag]

@lost saffron

@lost saffron

[restive peak]

It's very likely tier sets etc turn off tues

[quick schooner]

hi to the best master class of wow . true man of mans . wanna ask question just hit 80 and what is better fury or arms for dungeons ?

[bitter palm]

ye

and unlike troll

it sims high for fury as well

[south kayak]

Fury is slightly better but both are good

[bitter palm]

idk how good mechagnome is for fury but i would never be a mechagnome anyway

[south kayak]

lmao

[restive peak]

Mechagnome is BIS but it's so minor man

Being ugly is a forever negative mark

[bitter palm]

^

i racechanged in s4 sl to tauren cause it was funny

[quick schooner]

fruy is slightly better in dps and in survivability is much better right ?

[bitter palm]

banner prot

banner +ava in grimrail

[bitter palm]

if by much better u mean arms has to actually press defensives before the damage comes yes

[drowsy iron]

ST arms is slightly better

[quick schooner]

i didnt play from a long time but from what i remember fury was much better due alot of reason . health pool etc

[south kayak]

Not like it matters much in a raid with only a few ST encounters

[quick schooner]

what about the rotation gona try it now . anything diff or still about the same

[drowsy iron]

burst aoe is not like a rare thing to come by in the game

and arms slaps hard on the hardest fight in the raid

[quick schooner]

wow there are alot of build in wowhead . regarding dungeon there is balance and mountain thane .. any recommandation and feed back on those 2 ?

[clever path]

REMINDER: TOUCH GRASS NERDS

[eternal sundial]

green leaf

[clever path]

Philwar shh

Perma leaf = grass toucher

[modest condor]

no

[sudden scroll]

This is my janky attempt to sim racials for a geared character by modifying my simc input for anyone interested. I make absolutely no promises about it being accurate. https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/mQzwXkKRKbMrsXkAaHpcCw

[bitter palm]

downbad haste

if troll is higher than velf

where is mechagnome

its bis

[solar wasp]

Hi guys, in the fury opening for MT we do recklessness avatar roar bladestorm and odyn's fury but when we do avatar we cast a little odyn's fury that grant us 2 stacks of whirlwind so we dont use the 2 stacks and cast odyn's or i miss something (hope my question is clear sorry i'm french)

[modest condor]

in singletarget you dont care about whirlwind stacks

[solar wasp]

multitarget my bad

[viral jasper]

It is gonna depend on if the mobs are healthy enough to use another odyns on

[solar wasp]

but it just find that the 2 bloodthirst of unhinged consume the whirlwind stack isn't it?

[viral jasper]

Nope they changed that

[modest condor]

i think now that unhinged doesnt cleave anymore it's not worth holding OF that long

[viral jasper]

I think if the mobs will survive the 4 seconds of the dot then shotgun it

[junior gale]

thats how I feel just send that shit after BS

[viral jasper]

Otherwise hold for next pack

[junior gale]

dont think about normal dungeons

its pointless

[solar wasp]

hmmm ok so we dont care about the stack's given by the little free odyn's gifted by avatar and we do the odyn's with out consuming the stacks of the first one?

[spare steppe]

How long were you holding it for?

[viral jasper]

Its more just whether or not you gain enough by using the stacks

[modest condor]

until your whirlwind stacks were spent

but as i said, now that unhinged doesnt cleave anymore, that would take way too long

[solar wasp]

gonna use just a rampage and insta odyn's fury i guess

[modest condor]

yeah that sounds fine

[alpine haven]

I thought we gatekept people who racial sim

[quick schooner]

so how is your dungeon opener ?

Reck > Charge > ava > DR > Rampage > BS ??

[junior gale]

if you have Titanic no need ro reck b4 charge

[viral jasper]

On aoe pulls you get enrage from a avatar

Charge>reck+avatar+thunderous roar>bladestorm>ramp>odyns

[winged yarrow]

is mountain thane any good?

[viral jasper]

It is good fun

[winged yarrow]

I love the effects personally but every guide I checked says it sucks 😦

[viral jasper]

Well there ya go

[tired violet]

were grabbing everything in the hero tree, right?

so guessing it doesnt matter what i choose

[viral jasper]

There are choices nodes

But ya there is a best path for leveling, whichever way gives the most damage

[fair wolf]

It’s fun and flashy but I tried slayer and the damage was a lot higher, at least so far anyway

[empty coyote]

!wa

[eternal sundial]

The choice node in the middle matters

[tired violet]

i didnt have the thane build that ran TC so i just went slayer rofl

[eternal sundial]

I mean slayer is just the better option rn

[tired violet]

yeah i just thought thane would look cooler while leveling

with all the lightning

[plucky matrix]

Is RA or AM better atm?

[empty coyote]

!WA

[versed frost]

The lightning should be able to proc off every attacks tbh. I wanna go full thor lol

[meager void]

!wa agreed

[eternal sundial]

Ra

[plush ice]

ooo so idk if anyone else has started poking around w/ sims and builds and whatnot, but Roar and Spear are simming about equal for me, thats hip

[junior gale]

no reason to hate spear anymore

they got rid of the thing that made it bad

[clever path]

Fuck spear

[bitter palm]

mobs need to be

grouped

to actually hit them 🙂

[junior gale]

imagine using spear against more than 1 mob

[noble elm]

It hits pretty hard now

A lot of burst lol

[plush ice]

yeah, i'm just saying at least in low level gear i was suprised to see it was equal

[clever path]

Roidberg? Is roidstack?

[orchid iron]

who updates hekili's priorities and what not is that just the mod author reading guides or is it like a team

[junior gale]

@gilded pawn Hekili guy might know

[inner rampart]

!wa

[bronze laurel]

Any Single Minded Fury tryhards here?

[hollow bloom]

Is there any nerfs in comming?

[dense elbow]

Probably not, if anything some buffs are more likely

[inner rampart]

whats a good weakaura pack for fury

luxthos one isnt great

[buoyant salmon]

no bc if ur a tryhard ur not playing single minded fury

whats your question though

[buoyant salmon]

probably not but not impossible

slayer looking pretty damn good in m_

m+

[unreal onyx]

what's the easiest way to get gear rn? worldquests? nm dungeons?

I still got half my DF S4 myth gear on

[dense elbow]

AH

[clever path]

Auction house

WQ delve bountiful

Veteran from renown is long af

[dense elbow]

You dont use delve keys before in 3 weeks from now

[clever path]

I used 2 cause yolo

Won't matter when m+ releases

[unreal onyx]

I also used my keys bc I didn't know better

[clever path]

Can also craft 590

[ornate gust]

I bought gear from AH for like 800g per piece

[young ether]

raidbots seems bugged. simmed 3,5 mil dps 5 min patchwerk 1 target on nightly

[tired violet]

which choice nodes are we using with slayer

[unreal onyx]

the ones from wowhead

[dense elbow]

Brutal Finish and Oppertunist, for max PvP burst

[spare steppe]

Don’t do nightly

[dense elbow]

Remove food buff

lets pray for some BT buffs

[gilded pawn]

The author converts the raid bot APL to hekili

[tired violet]

can you drop the link

[unreal onyx]

#dps-faq

[tired violet]

i want the one for slayer

that just shows thane

[unreal onyx]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/talent-builds-pve-dps

that is slayer, no?

well, both

[tired violet]

❤️ TY

[maiden needle]

any takes on earthen race

[past pivot]

ugly

[gilded pawn]

It’s decent

[alpine haven]

ugly as hell

[gilded pawn]

In terms of damage

[rigid stirrup]

do you wanna really be the race that eats rocks

[alpine haven]

He needs that 0.01% DPS increase from going earthen

[maiden needle]

decent replies lol

[brittle crow]

i love eating rocks

[alpine haven]

typical #fury poster

[nocturne sonnet]

Hi there, fellow warriors. Im kinda new, or old to the fury spec and was wondering.. Do we use bladestorm in single target?

Doing the Mountain Thane route right now

[eternal sundial]

yes you do

cuz of unhinged

[nocturne sonnet]

Ahh, I see

Thank you

[upbeat plume]

it feels so wierd on slayer that we dont take sudden death lol

[unreal onyx]

having bad gear makes me feel so slow

(bc I am)

((18% haste rn))

[slate monolith]

Anyone know which Darkmoon deck we should use?

[viral jasper]

Guys thane or slayer

[slate monolith]

I was leaning towards Radiance

[past pivot]

SLayer at 80, Thane for leveling

[slate monolith]

Slayer does similar AOE dmg but does way more single target than thayne

[viral jasper]

Is warrior dead

[upbeat plume]

yeah I think thane is only strong in sustained aoe situations which are super rare (especially atm)

[upbeat drum]

@edgy widget Hello there, sorry for the ping but saw a typo in the Fury guide 🫣
It says 'Arms' warrior cheat sheet

[viral jasper]

Are earthen good

[icy pendant]

How do you get spark of omen this week ?

[eternal sundial]

you dont

[past pivot]

You don't. Expac hasn't launched yet in full

[unreal onyx]

the mini BS when hitting BT/BB looks so goofy

[junior gale]

you mean is sick af yeah

[dim meadow]

Cosmetically and aesthetically this didn’t give Slayers a damn thing. It’s literally Fury but you hit harder lol

[unreal onyx]

only thing I can say so far is that I like the dungeons

[dense elbow]

Would be sick if BT hit more than 80k :<

[unreal onyx]

?

[tidal beacon]

do we use assendance on both weps?

for embel?

[granite oar]

Is there a bis list for all players who dont play in raids?

[unreal onyx]

my lowest bt is 170k

[past pivot]

check dps-faq

[unreal onyx]

sorry for alien language

[granite oar]

🫡

[dense elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-cat-smol-small-ragey-gif-26398063

[somber hound]

Hey fury boys I just tried this spec and my left arm hurts now. Will it be even worse with haste increase? How you manage your forearm fatigue?

[dense elbow]

yep, it will get worse

I never struggled, but as I heard - it is all about how you rest your arm

once you got the problem, it is gg

it is wear and tear from bad posture/positioning

[past pivot]

Fury men handle it. Fury boys have weak forearms and go play ranged

[oblique trail]

Good keybinds go a long way

[dense elbow]

Shift-3, shift-4 spam all day, every day

[past pivot]

Shift is an extra button

[dense elbow]

3 is BT, 4 is execute, shitf 3 is RB and shift 4 is raging blow

ultimate button spam

[gusty cloak]

is darkmoon card trink worth buying?

[rotund ginkgo]

ty babe

[agile kestrel]

is it worth to craft a 590 2hand weapon atm?

[dense elbow]

390? no way

[unreal onyx]

whats ur ilvl

[alpine haven]

how do you have time to write here

[dense elbow]

554

[alpine haven]

go level your 8th warrior

[oblique trail]

Bro I leveled my main and haven't played since

[unreal onyx]

im 559 how is your bt that low

what weapons u got

[alpine haven]

laaame

I also did the same lmao

started leveling my warrior but gave up at 72

[alpine haven]

I dont fuck with all these passive effects "Like cool I can now bladestorm better"

[unreal onyx]

I have a 571 MH and leggo oh

[oblique trail]

Yeah not a fan of Slayer but it is what it is

[alpine haven]

Probs just going Arms colossus in the end

[oblique trail]

Leveling mage when I cba and then maybe afk till hc week

[dense elbow]

Doing normal dungs and delves as Thane? Impossible!

[alpine haven]

Unless they bring back ret paladin ST from the dead

EVEN THANE IS SO PASSIVE

I just want to press an ability on a 30-45s cooldown that feels sick

[unreal onyx]

slayer or thane are more or less basically all only passives, no?

[dense elbow]

More or less

[alpine haven]

yeah

and I hate it

[umbral dust]

I just heard about the buying greens off the AH to upgrade to 580, are we doing this and dropping our gear from DF?

[alpine haven]

I really like what they did with Paladin, working in one of their hero talents into Wake of Ashes

[pallid cipher]

when do we swap out the tier set and leggo axe?

[alpine haven]

You can do that

But you have nothing to really gear optimize for

[past pivot]

dps-faq

[alpine haven]

They aint gonna read it

[umbral dust]

I just perfer to have the discussion? jesus lol

[alpine haven]

lmao

[past pivot]

Ain't gonna spoonfeed it if they can't read lol

[umbral dust]

Kek

[junior gale]

gear rn is meaningless and will be irelevant come season 1 launch

[alpine haven]

dw I will spoonfeed you

[junior gale]

do whatever you wanna do till then

[alpine haven]

Spend all your gold rn

[untold yacht]

maxroll by revvez is good website for m+ build? it differs from wowhead one sooo im kinda coinfused?

one plays more AM other RA\

[proud mason]

are dungeons broken? ive been in queue for like 15 mins

[junior gale]

Maxroll has both

[restive peak]

If you're doing splits heroic week and straight to mythic on 17th, yes to expedite...if not, I would save the gold

If my guild wasn't paying for our boes and crafts, I would be in like 3 570 pieces and 554 otherwise lol

Like going into heroic splits w/o at least 580-590 every slot is pretty troll on your team

[dense elbow]

lets be real, if he did splits, he would not ask the question

[untold yacht]

@junior gale yes correct, but it seems revvez opts more for AM due as RA seems more ST/Boss focused in M+

[restive peak]

True

RA is better for higher keys/raid AOE, AM is better in lower keys where packs will die in 45-50s

And you'll have CDs again for the next

[umbral dust]

I just asked to trigger you guys apparently, im sorry for asking I should have read.
I'll start gatekeeping and tell people to read instead.

[compact sand]

Best darkmoon deck for fury warr?

[junior gale]

I wouldnt consider it as he prefers AM

hes giving you two build and a reason when to use it

[restive peak]

I answered your question Odo? Lol

Weird attitude, but sure bud

[dense elbow]

He would have to read to see that

[restive peak]

Facts

[junior gale]

wtf is that msg we are gate keeping becuase were saying to read the FAQ

[restive peak]

Asks question > gets answer > throws fit

[dense elbow]

Gatekeeping is easy nowdays

fgm

[pearl sequoia]

i got a socketed ring but gems are so fucking expensive

can someone be my sugar daddy for gems

[junior gale]

put a DF gem in

like a proper poor person

[pearl sequoia]

oh true lol

[sullen dove]

not even talkin bout you lol?

read few up

[pearl sequoia]

im not poor but i dont wanna spend gold on stuff thats gonna decrease in value by 1000%

[barren stone]

i have a question and maybe someone is able to answer it, so with Rampage beeing below CB and BB in aoe doesnt that make us overccap a ton of rage? or does not hiting rage cap have prio over CB and BB?

[sullen dove]

got classic axekandi antagonizing random ppl on cooldown

[restive peak]

I mean I pinged him with the answer

Which he ignored, then said that

So

I wouldn't blame Axe on that 1

[barren stone]

and since we dont have an apl i cant check so if anyone can answer that that would be bangers

[sullen dove]

he im sure was not replying to you

with that statement

[restive peak]

Overcapping rage is irrelevant, it won't happen outside CDs and inside CDs rage is a meme

So don't stress it Lex

[barren stone]

aight

[alpine haven]

It's fun watching new people who have never written here

facing his wrath

[barren stone]

if i had an apl i would have been able to check myself so im just following wowhead guide so i keep doing what im doing ty @restive peak

[restive peak]

Even enrage at this point is more of a flavor thing, we're basically perma enraged

[buoyant salmon]

I LOVE SPLITS

[sullen dove]

"wym you want the legendary to be handed out to everyone on a silver platter" as he gets his on the 4th week randomly on a silver platter

[restive peak]

APL semi works, but blizz did some messy stuff yesterday, WoWhead guide is BIS for now

[buoyant salmon]

how many r u guys doing linc

[restive peak]

3

[junior gale]

I get to do splits this tier

[restive peak]

My main is like 580 already, other alt has like 8? 571-577s from warbound already, and I'm gonna do it with heroics on the 3rd 1

So I'm almost good to go

Reps are all 8 or 9

[alpine haven]

NEEEEEEEEERD

[buoyant salmon]

ur far ahead of me lol

working on 3rd 80 rn

[dense elbow]

I am 613, get rekt

[restive peak]

I had this few days off cuz clients are on their final summer trips

[modest condor]

damn you guys are behind, i got lvl 80 like 14 years ago

[restive peak]

Just aligned well for me

[wary kernel]

FELLAS, hypothetically speaking I would like to have one of my weapons crafted, and I would like to go blacksmith as one of my proffesion. Which weapon would be best in your humble opinion? They have all same primary stats, speed and dps, the only difference is swing range of dmg meaning sword (5023 - 8373), mace (5860 - 7536), axe (4353 - 9043). Does this matter in some things? Or its just whatever numbas? Or am I just dumbass? Thanks, have great day!

[restive peak]

xD

[alpine haven]

I already cleared mythic

[restive peak]

Normalized friend, pick your fav

[frank dawn]

is there any certain rep that's got some sweet items for us

[dense elbow]

PvP

[alpine haven]

: (

I cant wait to play BGs for like 2 weeks more : )

[restive peak]

All have a 584 piece, depends on if you need to be ready ready on heroic day 1 or not, but not a huge deal

Solo RBGs look fun, I may PVP again this season

[frank dawn]

gotcha, wasn't sure if a decent trinket or somethign mainly I guess

[covert blaze]

@edgy widget does this mean 528 tier is only replaced by tww tier in those slots? not sure how long you are supposed to keep DF tier

[restive peak]

There's a decent 471 trinket from the web peeps

But again it's 471 so not necessary unless you're going into heroic on reset on the 10th

[junior gale]

[frank dawn]

yeh

[dense elbow]

471 is what last expansion?

[restive peak]

571

I'm drunk bro

Brain is fried

Too much WoW

[frank dawn]

I assumed you meant 571 😛

[sullen dove]

i thought s3 2pc would be more valuable

like still seeing milli bb crits good

smaller than that ragey

[covert blaze]

ilvl diffy too big

[pearl sequoia]

isnt dragonflight sets gonna be disabled on global release

[sullen dove]

s2 voters still ruining us even in the next xpac...

classic...

[alpine haven]

they will

[sullen dove]

🤖

[covert blaze]

fr

[restive peak]

We assume it's dead

[dense elbow]

ye, prob will be turned off with legendary and so on

[compact knot]

i fucking hate having to still use the old season 3 tier set

[restive peak]

Technically, TWW hasn't started yet

[dense elbow]

we just early

[junior gale]

then dont use it dawg your doing normal dungeons rn

[delicate thicket]

technically it has

[compact knot]

nah like doing world shit

[pearl sequoia]

@restive peak howd you get to 580 ilvl? you just spending those valorstones?

[compact knot]

stuff dies significantly faster with it

but im down 20 ilvl xdd

[buoyant salmon]

just forget about it

its not a big deal

[restive peak]

Crafted weps, rep pieces, some valor spent

I'm wearing 2pce S3, but took off my S4

[junior gale]

hes a warrior all right if your not suffering your not playing warrior

[untold yacht]

is maxroll.gg by revvez in general a good route if I wanna read just one guide frequently to keep up with best dps or should I stick with old but gold wowhead?

[restive peak]

Maxroll seems good

[dense elbow]

Anyone from the top of their head know the ilvl of honor PvP gear?

[junior gale]

besides the stormbolt tech the maxroll guide is good Revvez is the goat for a reason

[restive peak]

It's basically the same as Archis WoWhead, I'll use Archis cuz supportin my boi but doesn't matter for info

[untold yacht]

yeah I mean i just find maxroll gg works visaully better for me

main diff

not ahting on eiuther

hating

[junior gale]

yeah Maxroll always has easy to use guides

love them for ARPGS

[delicate thicket]

yeah website has much less stuff going on. best way to find class guide on wowhead is to google it @untold yacht

[untold yacht]

I mean for an idiot like me visuals like this are just perfect, but wowhead has helped in general for so long in the past so it feels like cheating

[restive peak]

I'd say Echo will likely keep them up to date, so you should be safe

Assuming it's a new sponsor

[junior gale]

well see this is the first wow guides on Maxroll idk what their plan is on maintaining them

[delicate thicket]

yeah, will just have to see

[untold yacht]

as long as I see that updates from revvez and not slacking, ill enjoy myself by long term I have higher gurantee for wowhead

i guess ill just switch the minute maxroll goes south

[dense elbow]

I doubt there will be any enormous "oh my god" diffs between wowhead and maxroll, so I will just stick with wowhead - cause lazy; I just say something wrong in here and I get my answer

[junior gale]

say something dumb and the yellow man comes to correct

[pallid cipher]

wait... am I understanding this correctly? do we not switch out our old tier before we get the new tier?

[modest condor]

something dumb

[buoyant salmon]

deez nuts

[modest condor]

we are probably not switching out of our old tierset until they disable it

[buoyant salmon]

lot of classes are the same way

[junior gale]

high chance they get disabled by tuesday 100% chance they are disabled by raid

so not a big deal

[restive peak]

If they don't disable tues on actual release, I'll be shocked

I'm pretty sure this is just an EA overlap issue

[south kayak]

[covert blaze]

yeah cause if they disable it now the people with no early access that are still doing raid would be screwed

[south kayak]

Oh that makes sense

[frank dawn]

I’d like to see them just throw like a 50% nerf on all of them. It obviously shouldn’t be used over level 80 raid gear but I think it’s kind of cool if your hard work from before has some kind of value moving forward

[junior gale]

I feel like making tier disable at lvl 76 like they usually do wouldnt cause issues for non EA players

but who knows what the reason is

[warm crag]

they could just leave it no

wont be relevant for any actually relevant prog

unless hc week is like anduin level fucked

[frank dawn]

Well if people are using it over normal and heroic tier that is legitimate to need to be changed

[south kayak]

You probably lose a lot of HP

[frank dawn]

That is true

[warm crag]

oh ye no i forgot how fucked old tier is in comparison to new tier

dw they'll nerf it dont have to speculate

[south kayak]

Yeah

[frank dawn]

If our tier set for TWW wasn’t god awful this might not even matter lol

[warm crag]

what track is 639

[south kayak]

They’ve done this every single time

[junior gale]

nerf as in disable yep

[south kayak]

Nerfed or disabled set

Iirc you used WoD hfc set in legion until it was changed or nerfed

[fickle bluff]

myth

[warm crag]

who's on zenith and actually has a good tier

[south kayak]

Who remembers

[warm crag]

ok ye lmao

[south kayak]

Let me check something

[warm crag]

sneezed twice

[south kayak]

This was HFC set

And it was even more cdr before they changed it

[viral jasper]

Furious slash was awful

Worst ability they ever added

[south kayak]

Relax

[viral jasper]

??

[south kayak]

It’s not that bad

Just a filler ability

[buoyant salmon]

it was bad

[viral jasper]

It was no cd filler, incredibly boring button

It is like a blander sinister strike

[buoyant salmon]

filler with buff

[dense elbow]

So basically RB?

[viral jasper]

It also did bad damage

[dense elbow]

... so, basically RB?

[viral jasper]

No

[dense elbow]

[eternal lance]

[orchid dagger]

RB is pretty fucking ass atm

With a bit more haste you could probably get rid of RB entirely

[viral jasper]

Saying RB damage is bad when you are running RA is a nonsense complaint

[dense elbow]

RB =/= CB

[viral jasper]

You are missing the point

[buoyant salmon]

rb = cb

bt = bb

[viral jasper]

You cant show a damage meter and be like “rb is low damage”

[dense elbow]

Sure I can

I just did

[viral jasper]

When you barely use it because it gets modded

Ok so your opinion is disregarded

[junior gale]

https://tenor.com/view/yakutenok-gif-8647082114664595427

[dense elbow]

So is yours?

[orchid dagger]

Cope

[buoyant salmon]

funky is being very disingenuous

[dense elbow]

Sir, I would never

[viral jasper]

I love having a normal conversation attempted to be derailed

Just a nuisance

[junior gale]

sir this is a video game discord

[dense elbow]

Ye, I cant take t conversation about furious slash serious

[junior gale]

what do you expect

[viral jasper]

L take

[dense elbow]

No wonder you a sad and not happy potato

[orchid dagger]

Potato us just mad

You hate to see it

Should change your name to Madpotato

[viral jasper]

If you are going to be trolls at least be funny >.>

[dense elbow]

[edgy widget]

RB is huge, what

[junior gale]

[buoyant salmon]

furious slash was a filler with a maintenance buff, no?

unless im misremembering

thats a fucking terrible button to have

[oblique trail]

Ye gave up to 6% haste

[fickle cedar]

btw which rep did you guys choose on the weekly quest i have no idea

[strong pilot]

hallowfall has a 584 chest, dornogal 584 shoulder

though you can get renown 7 on hallowfall without the weekly

[fickle cedar]

yeah i already got the 3 584s but no idea what to max after that :/

[edgy widget]

Yeah, FS was the thing you spammed 3 times at the start of the fight, then pressed instead of WW as the empty filler

and then eventually the buff was moved into BT/Rampage and became Frenzy

[covert blaze]

hallowfall probably, a second 584 at renown 11

[vague copper]

But at the time we get 11 m0 will be out?

[heady saffron]

replace leggo right? lol

or is the effect+onuse >?

[edgy widget]

you can replace it yes

[heady saffron]

aight bet ty <3

[safe juniper]

does renown stack ? like if i do all quest on one toon and get renown 8 can i do it again on another toon and get 16

[vague copper]

No

[heady saffron]

i believe renown is only for first completion per account

[safe juniper]

ohh okok

[vague copper]

But you can do Q on alt and get exp at the same time.

As long the q aint done on main

[safe juniper]

im figuring how to get resonance crystals on my alts

naw i did all quests on my main already and got sojouner aside from the bug in hallowfall

[covert blaze]

farm events in spreading the light

[safe juniper]

thought the spreading light cache is not working yet or do you mean do the quests there on those multiple ones

do trhey drop alot ?

[covert blaze]

yeah do the quests and events

the cache is not enabled yet buy you can farm the currency

[safe juniper]

anyone 580 ilvl yet

can i get higher ? is there any hacks rn ?

[junior gale]

do DF M+ at 80 and get banned

[wicked dew]

I remember early on after Earthen racials were revealed that they were simming well because of bonus armor. I heard this was no longer the case and they aren't simming well. What changed?

[latent hedge]

well it could be that they changed the racial to not really work with the talent

[junior gale]

Earthen is simming well its just not the best

[bitter palm]

velf bis

fuck mechagnome

[summer quail]

idk how early they got simmed, but at one point blizzard nerfed the amount of armor gear gave by alot. so maybe that's it

[wicked dew]

That makes sense. I have a race change pending because I used to be Human only for the reputation racial which no longer exists. Not sure what to choose

[strong pilot]

Nelf or Dwarf ngl, they have really strong utility racials and dwarf sims usually up there with damage

[bitter palm]

void elf night elf anything

really

[strong pilot]

velf has a -50% transmog cost

[bitter palm]

and giga cool racial

i love that teleport so much

[junior gale]

99% of ppl who min max race dont even do the type of content that would require it. Just pick your favorite race or grab something with a nice niche useful racial abillity like Nelf or dwarf

[strong pilot]

real

shadowmeld is great cause Fury has a tendency to rip aggro (sometimes)

[wicked dew]

Yeah I was just looking aesthetically for the most part, but I considered Earthen just cause they are new

[heady saffron]

imagine not going goblin warr for 2nd leap

[gusty cloak]

what rep can we grind to get some early decent pieces?

[wicked dew]

Velf or Nelf seem like what I will probs do

Thx

[buoyant salmon]

its litereally that chart

that shows bad players dont give a fuck mediocre players care the most good players dont give a fuck

[strong pilot]

hallowfall, dornogal, ringing deeps 584 at renown 7

I think

[buoyant salmon]

my main warrior is pandaren

[bitter palm]

yeah just play what race u enjoy

i like velf cause tp is sick

[junior gale]

Shadowmeld also cheesing M+ mechanics and helping you taunt spell reflects off bad tanks is bis

[strong pilot]

yeah dont go for damage just go for the one you like or something with useful util

[heady saffron]

im waiting for dragon warrior for the glide

[edgy widget]

they were not ever simming well, people just assumed that because Warriors had an armor -> damage bonus, that Earthen would be OP
(they're not, earthen is just kinda middle of the pack)

[heady saffron]

😳

[strong pilot]

yeah shadowmeld is stupid useful, it's crazy horde doesn't have something close to it lmao

[junior gale]

they used to with belf before that got gutted

[strong pilot]

yeah they nerfed belf man, I forgot that the aoe silence wasn't an aoe silence anymore

[bitter palm]

its still pretty awesome at times but meh

[junior gale]

but yeah shadowmeld is sick for so many different things

[tired violet]

i just completed the campaign at lvl 76, whats the fastest way to hit 80?

[junior gale]

dungeons

[dense elbow]

Dungs

[buoyant salmon]

like an hour and a half of dungeons

[tired violet]

anyone wanna run dungeons with me

[dense elbow]

I am done with my chars today, so no thanks

[static geyser]

When should I break 4pc?

[junior gale]

bruh

[south kayak]

Is the release global?

Tomorrow

[static geyser]

I assume its the same for Fury, but wanted to make sure :p

[dense elbow]

Reported

[junior gale]

its not a big deal break anytime you want they are gonna get disabled or nerfed anyways

no need to min max your normal dungeons/heroic dungeons

[dense elbow]

But I can't play Thane cause slayer better dam!

[junior gale]

https://tenor.com/view/ragey-mad-cat-angry-cat-raging-cat-rage-gif-26790394

[rotund steppe]

man i hate this early access shit

[storm lantern]

I will recraft it later to 5 stars when i will have the knownledge for, lul

[rotund ginkgo]

I kinda PRAY that when tww releases the df sets are greyed out

[junior gale]

hes Ascendancing

[spare steppe]

I love how they nerfed the easy xp grinding but it only affects the non-early access people

[rotund steppe]

i kinda hope they wait til season start

[rotund ginkgo]

wym whatd they nerf?

[rotund ginkgo]

cap

[storm lantern]

i'm mostly curious how fast the ascendance will stack

[dense elbow]

Huh?

[rotund ginkgo]

why would u want to wait so long with that

[rotund steppe]

what

[spare steppe]

Can’t xp lock 70s

[burnt kelp]

She ironclaws my great axe until Ascendance

[spare steppe]

People were doing dungeon boosts with zp locked 70s for crazy xp

[south kayak]

Good

That was stupid

[rotund ginkgo]

i mean it doesnt really matter it shaved off maybe 1hr

[storm lantern]

Yeah, they locked some hunters to 70, and spam dungeons like crazy

[spare steppe]

It’s a good change but they should’ve done it yesterday

Not at the end of early access

[rotund ginkgo]

took me 4hrs as a no sweat to just pump a warr from 70 to 80

maybe 5

[south kayak]

Leveling is still fast

[rotund steppe]

imma take my time reading quests if they are good

if not imma rush

[tidal beacon]

do we use embelished weps or 2

no

[rotund ginkgo]

so so

[dense elbow]

Took me 2hours on my DH - just dashed to bosses and killed em up to 75

[rotund ginkgo]

just finished isle of dorn sidequests

theyre ok

ringing deeps seem a bit more fleshed out i think

[storm lantern]

Story is good. nod

[rotund steppe]

thank god

[burnt kelp]

its better than dragonflight

[rotund ginkgo]

i mean the content of the quests are dog

[buoyant salmon]

the change wasnt to nerf that specifically

[storm lantern]

Sidequests are even better

[rotund ginkgo]

i meant the quest "stories" not the mobs lol

[buoyant salmon]

previous max levels are never allowed to lock xp

it isnt a new change

[rotund ginkgo]

mobs there are atrocious

loved the mobs in isle of dorn

absolutely blew my mind how bad the fog beasts are

its what, a fuckin 2004 asset they used?

2006 maybe?

[south kayak]

That’s from mop

So no

[rotund ginkgo]

no shot the fog beasts are mop

[storm lantern]

Kobolds with no candle be like :

[south kayak]

Yep they are

[rotund ginkgo]

that looks like bog mobs from tbc

[rotund ginkgo]

that portion of a dungeon with a tank thats clueless is abyssmal ngl

[storm lantern]

yeah

[south kayak]

Still haven’t done that lol

[dense elbow]

No spoilers here

Just know it is

A thing

[south kayak]

Also how does this release work? It doesn’t make sense we only have one day to do weeklies

People with no Early access

[storm lantern]

Some stuff unlocks in 24Hr, heroic dungeons notably

But season 1 is in 2 weeks

[rotund ginkgo]

jfc mist lurkers

yeah

insane

at LEAST the legion mist lurkers in emerald nightmare had some sort of a texture update

[storm lantern]

Is this dungeon in season 1?

[rotund ginkgo]

this is just a fuckin copy paste

it looks worse ingame unironic

[south kayak]

You’re going overboard with this lol

[rotund ginkgo]

i am lol

its the tism apologies

idk i was just excited for new models etc yk

and then.. that

[junior gale]

man learns most mobs in wow are copy paste

[rotund ginkgo]

yeah but give it a visual update ig

[storm lantern]

Copy paste with a re-texturing

[rotund ginkgo]

thats not even a retexture is what im saying

[south kayak]

There’s a lot of new models

[rotund ginkgo]

its a recolor

[clever path]

I was just looking at that wretch, i think I am in love

[south kayak]

Those ain’t one of them

[rotund ginkgo]

retexture would be the dht ones

[clever path]

Look at this face

[rotund ginkgo]

like cmon

art team can definitely give it fresh textures

ig because its not a huge part of the actual game (small area) they didnt care

[clever path]

They are still using shadowlands pictures

Or might be maxroll idk

Oh nvm me dumb MISTS

[south kayak]

Can anyone check the release countdown on bnet

How much time is it

[oblique trail]

24 hours

[south kayak]

Thanks

[rotund ginkgo]

yippeeeee

[safe juniper]

at what haste level would I use powerful over frenzied

[south kayak]

Are*

[green ledge]

what are yout thoughts on fury gameplay? i decided to drop the fotm and play something different this time. Last time i played fury was in bfa, is it very different now? People always say that warrior brings little to no utility and doesnt get invited, what are your opinion on this? Did anything change?

[junior gale]

its not much different than it was in bfa and our utillity is fine now that we have easy access to shockwave. and TWW engineering has brought back combat rez item

[fresh nexus]

New fury here wanted to try one handed fury, is there anywhere I can start doing research

[junior gale]

your not really gonna find any info on SMF but if you wanna play it just pick a meh talent from current fury builds and put it into SMF

[fresh nexus]

Ok thank you

[clever path]

SMF dagger warrior is bis

🗡️ 🗡️

[next canopy]

Just got to hallowfall. Love the vibe

[hasty path]

Best zone in the entire game

Beats even the BfA zones

[next canopy]

I feel happy here

[hasty path]

I’m thinking of making an animated wallpaper

I have the perfect framing set up for it

[next canopy]

Send me

[hasty path]

So here’s the thing

Is it your first time in hallowfall? And do you have a good pc? Because I might need to recruit your help lmfao

[next canopy]

First time

PC average

Graphics are poor

Not like crazy hd like some people post in here

[hasty path]

Unforch. Because I want to get like a long steady recording to loop but I can only get like 1-3 minutes due to little orbs that spawn around the terrain after a certain point in the story or level 80 (not sure)

One sec tho I’ll upload the vantage point I used for what I do have. Just didn’t actually figure out how to wallpaper it yet

2 different views

[feral ivy]

i cant find any info why save Restored Coffer Key's

[sullen dove]

what a G

[hasty path]

higher ilvl from higher delves which arent yet available

so more keys = more high ilvl gear in 2 weeks vs some low ilvl gear that youll replace by then now

[feral ivy]

ahh tyty also when will heroic ilvl be increased why is it so low?

[next canopy]

Awesome

[covert blaze]

A fresh alt doesnt work?

[hasty path]

i need to check

and havent

[wicked flicker]

has fury gotten way slower or has the scaling destroyed my haste?

[hardy cargo]

if running powerful enrage, both

but yes

you have a lot less haste

[wicked flicker]

is powerful enrage the RB and BT empower on rampage one?

[hardy cargo]

no

[summer quail]

ofcourse it's alot slower. i went from 40 something percent haste, now i have 13

[hardy cargo]

thats reckless abandon

check the talent to the bottom left of raging blow in the 3rd row of talent tree

[wicked flicker]

ah right then it's just my shit haste

I love feeling the GCD

[tiny flame]

scaling is horrendous. I had 20% speed at 70. at 79 it's 1% lol and same with all other stats haha

even using a DF speed potion does less than 1% increas

[tired violet]

anyone have a map of like the city in the new zone where it says the name of everything?

[hardy shuttle]

Pretty much everything you need is right by the inn. It doesn't take too long to get used to. Professions are pretty spread out though

[dense elbow]

There is no pure ST dummy tho

Or am I blind

[next canopy]

I am just banging away like a Thunder King

[clever path]

I will say I think thane is a bit too knee jerk random with what you need to hit

But otherwise I like thane better

[next canopy]

Yes. It doesn't flow nicely. Or I haven't found the rhythm yet

[tired violet]

i mostly just need the ah

[next canopy]

But for levelling it doesnt matter dps wise. I haven't tried slayer yet but i'm thinking it will feel like real fury

[hardy shuttle]

If youre looking at the inn, next building to your right

[tired violet]

ahh okay, it not too bad, i think i kept on almost instaqueing for dungeons so i kept getting all turned around

[calm ermine]

Can we spend weathered crests?

I mean, should we...

[violet condor]

anyone have that bladestorm gif on standby?

[covert blaze]

There's a weakaura for that, wowhead posted it

[tired violet]

foreal?

[covert blaze]

yes

Look for wowhead posts in the last like 2 days

[tired violet]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/dornogal-map-labels-weakaura-note-important-services-in-the-war-within-capital-346082?utm_source=discord-webhook

found it

it doesnt look like it has everything though

i think its messed up tbh

they arent in the correct spot

[drowsy iron]

Yep

Even if you're like 2x4 farming for example

It's significantly better to use low level char

The system just feels weird to me

[covert blaze]

Maybe your zoom level is incorrect

[tired violet]

both dont line up, idk

guess ill just learn it

[covert blaze]

🤷‍♂️

[manic gulch]

Frenzied Enrage or Powerful Enrage

for the most damage

[covert blaze]

powerful, especially if stuff dies fast in the content you're doing

[manic gulch]

so frenzied in raids ?

where things won't die fast

[sour tundra]

so are all the world events opening up tomorrow?

[junior gale]

tuesday most likely

[fickle cedar]

is it worth making 590 axes ?

but arent crests gonna be in major need ?

[covert blaze]

What

Oh I was replying to the guy above

[fickle cedar]

oh okay

[covert blaze]

My message got sent twice for some reason

[tepid solar]

Random question: can/should fury warr use a 1 hand or fist weapon? Or does 2h give way more stats

[junior gale]

you can use 1hs but its not gonna be better than using 2h

[vocal kayak]

I feel like its crazy not taking the Sudden Death talent for slayer but no guide shows it

[frank dawn]

The extra executes just don’t matter that much compared to the damage from consuming the marks

Also raging blow/crushing blow do big fuck dam

[junior gale]

the Slayer talent gives you a SD without having to talent into it

[bitter palm]

slayer sd is separate

[frank dawn]

And that part too

[vocal kayak]

Really? So it won't accelerate bladestorm or reduce CD then when specced into it

Makes sense then

[knotty python]

Damn, my 4 pc from last expac sims like 400k dps higher than the new gear

That seems kinda broken doesnt it

[frank dawn]

That’s not quite right. It still does those things, but you don’t need it to get the 3 stacks. And since the slayer SD procs every 3 strikes anyway you still get almost all the CDR too

[frank dawn]

Tier bonuses got really strong. I haven’t played around with it much myself in sims so I’m not sure what’s typical

[tired violet]

why does green gear show like a secondary stat of 289-1200?

[brittle crow]

shouldnt more SD procs mean u can execute more often then every 3 marks tho

so you'd get more cdr

[knotty python]

I kinda hate to just stick out my tier forever.. you know?

[modest condor]

the cdr is based on how many marks you get, not how often you press sd

[clever belfry]

Mark deez

[junior gale]

knots

[modest condor]

if you generate 3 marks in 30 seconds you're gonna get 15 seconds cdr whether you use one execute after the 30 seconds or you get 10 sd procs during that time

[brittle crow]

oh ic

so are we supposed to hold bladestorm to line up with either odyns or avatar

or just press that shit

[exotic glacier]

save it if its within 7 seconds, otherwise let it rip

[brittle crow]

7 seconds is specific

is that just what the api says

[exotic glacier]

but make sure you're enraged

[restive peak]

Revvez seems to think 10, so that's probably safe

[gilded pawn]

usually you just test out random numbers

[haughty token]

which is looking better for m+ fury thane or slayer

[gilded pawn]

and whichever one has the highest dps makes the cut

so in this case 7

but cant be too different

[edgy widget]

the general rule for cooldowns is to hold them no longer than the % gain of the CD, so for a 30% damage boost you don't wanna hold longer than 30% of the (adjusted) cooldown

in practice though, encounter mechanics will dictate

• you're not gonna throw BS out as a pack is dying, you'll just save it for the next pack
• likewise, if holding BS means that the targets are going to die (say a set of raid adds), you're not going to wait for another CD first

[brittle crow]

yea its easier to know when to use in aoe cuz things die

was just thinking pure st

[edgy widget]

sims almost always prefer just sending stuff on CD, but if you know your encounter timing really well, you can plan it out

most of the time it's gonna be a "just send" angle unless it's your big set of 90s cds though

[oak osprey]

!wa

[brittle crow]

wa

[modest condor]

papa tutu tutu tuwawa

[halcyon tulip]

[modest condor]

[sullen dove]

[knotty mountain]

anyone having any issues with the maxdps weakaura

[clever path]

[knotty mountain]

telling me to spam ww on anything above 1 target??

[clever path]

What is maxdps weakaura

[sullen dove]

erm

[clever path]

If you really want an addon to tell you what to press, get hekili

anyone know why my Hekili would be tracking unshackled fury as an ability to use next

[pearl sequoia]

oh nahhhhh

[viral jasper]

It is wild to need an addon to handle 4 buttons lol

[edgy widget]

I doubt those rotation helpers are all updated yet

[spare steppe]

you do need to decide which to use at what time with scaling priorities but similar function

[knotty mountain]

I been back a few days, lol trying to learn the rotation again with proc priority

[spare steppe]

So I understand if folks may struggle and want to learn

[knotty mountain]

took a break since legion

[viral jasper]

Use recklass abandon abilities first, if no whirwind stacks in aoe do that

[hard widget]

Well fury is pretty fast paced, and if you want to really min max there is some things that is harder to keep track off in hectic scenario's. And i'm sure that for the majority of players there is atleast 1 or 2 things in the prio that they are unaware of ^^

[pearl sequoia]

it can tell you what to press but not why to press, how you gonna learn the game?

[spare steppe]

You have 2 stacks of crushing blow and a bloodbath stack, which do you use first? That answer changes if you’re in ST/AOE too

[viral jasper]

If you want to minmax you need to not be using hekili

That is the opposite of minmax lol

[spare steppe]

100% always better to learn and understand why

[hard widget]

Well theoratically if you use hekili optimally ur probably gonna do better

If the prio imput is correct

[spare steppe]

Helkili doesn’t know your future uptime or mechanics

[viral jasper]

Hekili forms bad habits and has those issues you mentioned

[hard widget]

Im unaware tbh on most of it

But what bad habits would it form?

[spare steppe]

Always pushing buttons in a certain way and not adjusting

[viral jasper]

Staring at a conga line of icons to be told what to do

[hard widget]

Like considering its just a 5 min target dummy

[viral jasper]

What if you press storm bolt or shockwave

[spare steppe]

Like using recklessness always with avatar in ST when you may need to recklessness before you charge in to get a rampage before avatar/spear

[hard widget]

Hmm, i think its less bad to use it than you guys make it out to be. As long as it is done with a certain intent to learn

[viral jasper]

I think if you are in a class discord you have won half the battle of learning

It isnt that hard to learn without an addon

[hard widget]

I guess everyone learns in their own way, and through their own methods. I can see why it could be useful to use such addons to learn openers to new specs for example. As long as you dont become dependent on them

[spare steppe]

Plus asking questions. I’ll admit I struggle when I have SD, bloodbath, crushing blow all glowing but I want to learn why I press it when

[hard widget]

You'll get used to it, its just new because the prio has changed

[pearl sequoia]

just look at rotation guide and practice on dummy, then adjust to different scenarios

[spare steppe]

Yup

[pearl sequoia]

following sequences isnt gonna do shit

[clever path]

Hekili is only prio based, for ST patchwerk it's completely fine to use, other fights depending on class and aoe etc it can inheritably become confusing

[spare steppe]

The biggest mind fuckery is the BT/RB prio swaps in st/aoe

[hard widget]

You basically just described that very thing by looking at a guide tho

[viral jasper]

Exactly. Anyone can learn priorities in ten minutes on a dummy

[pearl sequoia]

teachers dont give tests with an answer sheet

[hard widget]

Depends on your build really, in RA it stays the same pretty much

[hard widget]

But you do practice from ur text book with the answer 😉

[viral jasper]

Tbf bb and cb prio is pretty moot

You are hitting both anyway

[clever path]

40+ million downloads, if people use it and do good who actually cares

[hard widget]

Well thats not true

[viral jasper]

If you arent then you fucked up

[hard widget]

CB buffs ur BB directly so there is definitely a big incentive to use them correctly

[viral jasper]

That buff will last for the next bb

And if im not mistaken it stacks more than once no?

[spare steppe]

I heard BT has priority in aoe specifically because of what can proc off of it but they are adjacent in relative priority

It’s fun though

[hard widget]

Well yes, BT does. But BB doesnt. But only in AOE scenario's because of reap the storm

[spare steppe]

Feels very dynamic compared to 11121112 repeatedly

[hard widget]

However in ST Reap the storm drastically loses value because of it being ST and the dmg alone isnt THAT amazing

[clever path]

A lot of classes are just 1123112311231123

[viral jasper]

So is fury though

[hard widget]

This is basically every class. Every class has a 4-6 button opener into 2 button spam pretty much

Some are slightly more complicated than others. But the general idea stays the same

[clever path]

Yup some exceptions like WW or w/e but similar still

[hard widget]

WW is basically 3 buttons

[viral jasper]

4

Ww ramp bb cb repeat

[clever path]

5

[hard widget]

Werent they getting haste benefit now on?

I mean in shadowlands it was 1 button xd

Chiji casino spec

[viral jasper]

Oh ya cant forget execute

[clever path]

Ignore the 8 but yeah you have like 5

[viral jasper]

Crane kick is a cd right?

[clever path]

nope

[viral jasper]

They change it?

[hard widget]

Its a channel

[clever path]

dump/proc/aoe

[viral jasper]

Last time i played monk it was like a 30-45 second cd or something

Or im mistaken with fists

[hard widget]

I think u mean bonedust brew @viral jasper

Or whirling dragon punch

[viral jasper]

I havent touched monk since wod

[clever path]

I'm maining it for guild atm, but cant wait to level my fury and just brainlessly spam 3 buttons whole dg

[viral jasper]

Playing something hard for prog is pain as well

[spare steppe]

I played sin before, that was truly a 2 button spec outside of cds

[clever path]

Eh, monk is easy tbf

[hard widget]

Are u missing monk buff or something? Haven't seen WW be good in raid for a looong time

Maybe now (havent looked at raid sims much)

[viral jasper]

It was good in df season 1 i think

Or maybe it was sl?

[clever path]

It's always a high mid spec

[hard widget]

SL monk was decent yes

[viral jasper]

Historically it scales poorly

[spare steppe]

WW got some scaling now, hopefully ends up in a good place

[viral jasper]

So it peaks early

[clever path]

Like fury tho uptime fucks u

[hard widget]

I dont think it "fucks us" perse

Its just about skill

[spare steppe]

Outlaw misses its long arms

[calm swallow]

God the difference between SMF and TG is just heartbreaking >_< 1-3% my foot

[clever path]

Well compared to classes with dots, coming off the boss to do mechs is horrific but that's just a melee problem (unless you pink)

[hard widget]

Every ranged player hates mechanics that make em move, unless they're mages

THey dont really care anyways

[clever path]

Range cry all the time "WE HAVE IT HARD"

[hard widget]

They just use one of their 50 immune's or blinks

[clever path]

Melee is the mans game

Especially in m+

https://tenor.com/view/muscle-flex-muscles-strong-man-gif-11962085

[modest condor]

that looks so uncanny

[willow cradle]

Looks like synthol

[pearl sequoia]

theres not a drop of oil in those muscles

[clever path]

Bro has arms but lack the forearms

[hard widget]

Thats what a hater would say

xd

[willow cradle]

I am a certified hater

[hard widget]

He's all natty bro wdym

[willow cradle]

But

I also enjoy the gym enough to spot that shit lol

[clever path]

Wdym, all bodybuilders are natural bro

[buoyant salmon]

yes haste is their best stat

[buoyant salmon]

its actually looking really, really good for raid

their st and aoe builds are almost identical besides a couple points ontop of them just doing great st

[clever path]

https://tenor.com/view/wow4-warcraft-pandaren-gif-20757180

We grinning, but watch nerf

[buoyant salmon]

a nerf wouldnt be unjustified

but would still feel kinda sadge

[clever path]

No

Everythings balanmced well

No nerf

[pearl sequoia]

no we need buff

[buoyant salmon]

mhm yes besides having no weaknesses class is balanced

[pearl sequoia]

well they kinda need to balance the game around that for game activities

every class gotta be able to do everything

[clever path]

Imagine if monk became PI prio more than Arms, like ermmm

[buoyant salmon]

monk became PI prio more than Arms

fixed that for you

[clever path]

Never would i have thought i would see the day

[buoyant salmon]

not rlly true

you can have specs be good at burst aoe instead of sustained aoe

or low target cleave instead of mass aoe

or execute damage instead of sustained damage

[clever path]

Anyone got a ST sim for fury around 570-580 ST?

[modest condor]

or you can have a spec be good at st, low target aoe and high target aoe

stupid wizards

[safe juniper]

do we have a trinket list yet ?

[clever path]

As ex fury main i am curious

[pearl sequoia]

yea just in the general sense of good ST and AOE for mythic+ and raid

niche specialties

[buoyant salmon]

not everyone can have good aoe and st

for the sole reason of if everyone is equal nothing can be good

[pearl sequoia]

whats good and whats meta is different yea lol

[clever path]

(Feral druid inside me crying)

But they fixed that i think

[buoyant salmon]

feral still eats rocks

dont worry youre not missing out

[clever path]

I'm more saying you had to pick aoe or ST

Otherwise you were dogshit in both

[buoyant salmon]

oh well now u cant pick either bc they suck all around

[clever path]

[buoyant salmon]

lose lose i guess

[clever path]

I'm glad i changed my mind from maining feral

Was asked but pffftttt

[buoyant salmon]

you were asked to play druid dps?

by who

a sadist?

[pearl sequoia]

they were gonna bench you

[hard widget]

Mage propaganda kekw

[clever path]

No spot for warrior but i'm happy for now i think

[buoyant salmon]

if u have spot for a druid dps u have a spot for a warrior

[clever path]

We have a feral in my new guild

No other druid so

Apparently druid is dead apart from guardian

[pure cairn]

whats looking to be the best race for a minmaxing andy this raid ❤️

[wise sorrel]

whats the take on this Trinket Good ?

[buoyant salmon]

pretty much always mechagnome

but it doesnt matter at all

[warped bone]

Seems people are getting https://www.wowhead.com/item=218126/befoulers-syringe#comments seems this drops from elite mobs in Azj-Kahet. According to guy in comments. Also highest geared boi in the world as a fully upgraded one 606 ilvl

[sullen dove]

normal ilvl!

poggers!

[buoyant salmon]

no mainstatis that real or just wowhead tootlip

[summer quail]

it's real

[buoyant salmon]

tooltip

[summer quail]

no mainstat

[buoyant salmon]

sus

[young swan]

it actually has 0 mainstat

world drop btw

bait ass item

[summer quail]

like the effect has to be so goddamn strong for it to be worth

[buoyant salmon]

losing secondary stats is only sometimes worth it

losing main stat though?

thats rough

[warped bone]

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/character/us/proudmoore/Eleydor

The guy that has it

Just no mainstat indeed

There was this from beta https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1230008383856316437/1249180657398190091/image.png?ex=66cd32a5&is=66cbe125&hm=81c2de80dc89e1208f39048acdca637e1c09f9ab2c846919f64521defe3660f9&

Seems its stronk

[sullen dove]

not a chance

its doing that %