#fury

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summer quail
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good news for you mate! we have demolish as arms now 🙂

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on a much shorter cooldown!

meager void
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Yeah but I get demolish from the start, its not the same when you dont have to wait months and months for it to drop.

restive peak
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Figured as much

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I got 2 564s but sittin w leggo still in OH

storm rune
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Does raidbots work with current unhinged

near anvil
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should i break my 480ilvl Season 4 tier set for higher ilvl lvl 80 gear?

restive peak
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Yeah it's time bro

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Let it happen

edgy widget
red berry
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do we know if its a bug yet

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or is it intended

exotic glacier
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its an official patch note

red berry
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ahhh. that sucks so much.

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what even.

exotic glacier
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we fight on brother

near anvil
edgy widget
red berry
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thanks so much

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for some reason the channel wasn't being listed. still, that seems

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goofy

viral jasper
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fun detected reeee

red berry
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i suppose it can still proc reap the storm

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storm of steel is actually just pointless period so

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we have no real AoE choice there

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which feels like awful design, blizzard

restive peak
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Arcane has a bug? We've worked it into the rotation because it's fun! Warriors had a fun bug? Fixed

brittle crow
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i kinda wanna try prot tbh

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but my guild would never let me raid tank and i dont wanna feel like a delta male

frank dawn
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Thane prot might not feel that different from DF Prot, but man it's stronk lol

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and fun

storm rune
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Thunder Blast feels SO strong

viral jasper
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i just like thunder clap

faint whale
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Visually looks cool as well

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(Chefs kiss)

storm rune
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I'm sure once we come online and our haste is looking pretty it's gonna be awesome

lean heart
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man going from like 40% base haste to 16% feels like ass ngl 😭

brittle crow
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play frenzied enrage gg

dense elbow
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The haste drop always feels bad sadgers

At least numbers only go up from here

lean heart
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tru

dense elbow
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Playing TR without unhinged consuming stacks, is ruining my mental

Just feels bad, but then, I kinda gotten used to things gradually feeling worse keks

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Doubt there will be more negative changes from now on

orchid iron
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brooo noooo

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not the necrotic wake in s1 noooo

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shadowlands ptsf

inner delta
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Do the tier sets from DF still work? Not greyed out so i'm assuming so

restive granite
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so no one is sustaining ashen juggernaut throughout a fight before execute range right? or am i a shitter

misty pagoda
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Hey boys, not asking for clear consensus on TR, but EnrageUp THEN Odyn's Fury yields the same damage as just pressing Odyn's Fury?

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with TR ofc

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or is some initial dmg lost

restive granite
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nop

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it enrages you before the hit and dot

misty pagoda
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aight bet tyvm

restive granite
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np ive asked the same like 20 times to be sure

edgy widget
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fun fact: it originally (in DF alpha) didn't, neither did Tenderize - had to fight for that shit

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cause the bonus would be pretty pointless otherwise

violet condor
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do we think theres a chance there going to walk back that nerf? seems like a really weird out of place change imo

restive granite
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like you know the episode of southpark where they explain how simpsons episodes are done? would have been the same in here lol

nova smelt
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We dont play AM anymore for keys?

wispy swan
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are we breaking tier for higher ilvl rn, I saw some specs are losing damage from it.

latent hedge
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i think that stuff is gonna get shut off on tues since techincally we're still in pre patch

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for the brokies who didn't get early access

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which is why that m+ exploit was able to happen

nova smelt
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what m+ exploit?

latent hedge
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you can get a +2 key and do it and get TWW Mythic gear

nova smelt
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ah

latent hedge
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but don't do it; blizz is actively banning the people that do it and almost definitely rolling them back

nova smelt
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My question is when did we start dropping anger management

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for RA

orchid iron
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why arent spending keys yet? does the ilevel go up or something later?

latent hedge
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higher delve level = better reward

orchid iron
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so whats special about week 3 thats when we can get the best?

latent hedge
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higher delve level

edgy widget
restive granite
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only reason to do normal delves atm is jjust leveling brann?

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cause normal ones without key aint dropping shit to me atm

orchid iron
exotic glacier
fluid cedar
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safe to replace ashkandur with a 554 wep?

exotic glacier
fluid cedar
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It’s a giant pickaxe

exotic glacier
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Then DEFINITEY

orchid iron
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better than the shovel polearm

hushed halo
exotic glacier
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THE CHILDREN CRAVE THE MINES

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Nothing is dangerous. It’s early release time. Tis a silly place.

fluid cedar
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Cuff me boys

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I’m vendoring all my tier and deleting fyralath

exotic glacier
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Actually…. Tier still does quite well

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I think it’s still active too

fluid cedar
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Fyralath active feels like I’m pressing the “nerf my dps” button

sullen dove
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prolly cuz u are

fluid cedar
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Yup still working at 80

sullen dove
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but dot yep cocka

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unless youre in a delve with this dogshit exploding spores

exotic glacier
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Ya the active effect is… not done

fluid cedar
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Yeah the dot is juicy

sullen dove
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and the dot puts them back in combat after they die

fluid cedar
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Kek

exotic glacier
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That’s just keeping rage

fluid cedar
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Still not deleting your Lego huh??

sullen dove
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i mean idk how do u delete special items like that

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i still hold onto most trinkets

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but leggo def perma bank slot

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or like void storage maybe

fluid cedar
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Nah I’m just playing I still have like 3 versions of gavel in my bank lol

sullen dove
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ayup

warped bone
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Are rares one time thing or weekly for loot? Cus daily reset did not make them drop stuff again

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Or perhaps certain rares that only have loot once? Maddening Bomber shows up again on addon. But a few others do not.

exotic glacier
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Did the change to transmog come through where sets get included when you collect them?

red berry
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i really wish that execute felt like a button worth pressing

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even with marked for execution

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thats one thing id hope TWW would have addressed

exotic glacier
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It’s a shame. Truly. But we have lots of priority buttons

frank dawn
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yeh it would be nice, as many have suggested, if some of Slayer execute damage at least was shifted out of the Marks and into base execute

exotic glacier
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Truly with a name like Slayer, one would think execute would be more useful than just as a BS resetter

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And the talent in Slayer for RB… feels like it SHOULD be for execute

junior gale
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thats the main problem with Slayer design imo its fake exe focused

restive granite
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pretty sure they got a shit load of feedback and decided to keep it as it is

junior gale
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Slayer is about SD and marks than it is Exe itself

red berry
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the issue is that

junior gale
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and yet somehow works without SD talented

red berry
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as archi has pointed out

junior gale
red berry
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the tier set has raging blow interactions,

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you have 4 reasons to press raging blow

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but you have none to press execute, really

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outside of every 3 slayer anyway

restive granite
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and you cant keep up ashen juggernaut either, maybe because of low haste atm

red berry
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like, execute just needs to give slaughtering strikes and also build bloodcraze

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and because of the slayer hero talents and tier set

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it would still be superfluous

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30% damage/30% crit damage for refresh is fucking insane by the way

clever path
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So I'm new to WoW and picked fury for my main . I'm learning but rotations are a lil confusing to me. Can anyone explain the basic fury rotation to me? Thanks for the help

winter shoal
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Wowhead or maxroll guide yep

junior gale
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have you checked out any guide

winter shoal
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If you have specific questions feel free to send em, but those guides will be a great starting point

junior gale
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^

clever path
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Thank you

winter shoal
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The main gameplay loop largely revolves around using your builders (bloodthirst and raging blow mostly) to generate rage that you then spend with rampage. Different talent choices and your hero spec will add in some other abilities and priority, but that's kind of the core idea

exotic glacier
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It’s not even really about SD. It’s about ImmDem. Getting SD procs from SD would be bad (because execute is bad)

patent cove
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damn smf still bad?

exotic glacier
exotic glacier
winter shoal
restive granite
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we better stay 2 handed, dont want to fight for loot with all the frost dks around xD

patent cove
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fuck it i might run it anyway

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can't believe its something we even need to talent into still

exotic glacier
exotic glacier
winter shoal
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Tbf I use "a couple" in everyday speech to mean a large range of numbers, not just 2

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Aint no way it's 12%

exotic glacier
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Especially in delves

winter shoal
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Link a sim for that

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Last I heard IIRC it was like 2.5%

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Most of df it was like 5%

covert blaze
exotic glacier
winter shoal
exotic glacier
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All directions. Rethink your existence

covert blaze
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It's more than that

winter shoal
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Now or during df?

fluid cedar
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would it be safe to call the pheromones... spidey scents?

winter shoal
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I remember Archi saying after the UF nerf I think that it was a lot closer now bc t3 talents are kinda beans and SMF is only 1 point now

exotic glacier
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But SMF is likely always going to be behind

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How much will depend on tuning, but i think it’s intended to be more of an auto attack spec and therefore less competitive

flint zealot
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when do we throw away S4 set for ilvl? 😄 again 30ilvl on at least 2 pieces?

gilded flicker
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Darkmoon Radiance sucks for us ?

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or no data?

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its only 30k, got me wondering...

summer quail
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i've not simmed it personally yet but i trust archi

winter shoal
north geyser
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does the bloodthirst talent that enrages you when you strike a new target still exist?

summer quail
rotund steppe
keen kindle
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I mean tbh same

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My parses are trash

covert blaze
fast stump
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what are yall thoughts on thane vs slayer? is it a big dif? Thane has been fun so far, just hit 80

past pivot
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Thane for leveling. Slayer for 80 content. Just too far ahead on dps meters ATm.

fleet sorrel
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@sullen dove @young swan

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freaks

junior gale
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based heroes of the storm

sullen dove
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die

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closet weeb

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have an entire summer event to bumrush through in 3 days

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b4 peaklan launches

young swan
spice vine
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Xan is based once again

strange sedge
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does reap the storm have an icd?

covert blaze
covert blaze
fast stump
vague copper
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Do you guys stick with your set from DF?

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So far I sim higher with the 4-set then ~560 gear

warped bone
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Still simming way above current gear possible

vague copper
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Duo the lower 2:nd stats

dusky moon
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You can stick with it but by the time any content that matters comes out it won't work

vague copper
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True

junior gale
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theres just also a high possibility blizzard disables them

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seems like an oversight that they didnt

vague copper
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Yeah

dusky moon
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My guess is it's a technical limitation with the early access and they will be disabled on Monday during official launch

vague copper
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So with that said... No need to farm gear atm more then boots, belt and so on

junior gale
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that would be my guess aswell

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prob just no way to disable tier for early access players and not normal players

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and didnt wanna disrupt gameplay of ppl who didnt do early access

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besides I guess just disabling at lvl 80

gilded pawn
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or at level 71

restive granite
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went to bed early to have a good gaming day, instead of waking up at a decent hour i wake up at 5am

junior gale
rocky oriole
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is fury normally pretty solid in terms of meta?

gilded pawn
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no

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middle of the pack at best

rocky oriole
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icic

onyx fox
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well its never meta compared to mage warlock and aug

rocky oriole
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haha

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i dont rlly like the havoc changes so i think fury will be my home for now, just was curious on that

onyx fox
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warrior isnt bad tho

buoyant salmon
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its been historically almost always decent-above average

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very rarely is it bad

rocky oriole
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okok 😄

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thats what i meant, I didn't mean for it to sound like if I was asking if it was a superstar spec

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ty ^-^

edgy widget
edgy widget
rocky oriole
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ty ^-^

edgy widget
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which doesn't mean it can't push the highest of keys and get title - it absolutely can, and critcake has done so every single season

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it's just not first pick, so the higher you go, the harder time you'll have getting into pug keys

rocky oriole
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i see, crit is someone I watch a lot and I know he doesn't pug and he has a team so its a little different of an experience, but if someone can do it every season than that is enough for me 😄

edgy widget
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tbh if you're interested in pushing high keys or after title, you're best doing it with a group anyway

junior gale
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tbh its just more of a pug thing

edgy widget
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pugging the higher end of keys can be a nightmare even for meta specs

rocky oriole
junior gale
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if your skilled and you got quality players to play with you can push on anything

rocky oriole
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pugging keys (really anything in WoW) is not fun for me haha

junior gale
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yeah ppl who pug for title are massochists

restive granite
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is the bonus xp 5% per character lvl 80?

fleet sorrel
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up to 25%

restive granite
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nice

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perma dg is the fastest way right? if youre playing a tank spec

feral ivy
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how are people getting 570 ilvl? i have 570 gear but idk how i got it

restive granite
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WQ

feral ivy
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mine gives 564

charred birch
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uuh, the veteran gear from the renown tracks is fine to buy right? i mean, you dont really need that currency for anything else?

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@feral ivy it was different ilvl for different wqs + its frmo those special event things that you unlock after completing 3 wqs, i think those gave 571 or 574

feral ivy
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ahhhhhhhhh

covert blaze
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rares give 571 too

storm rune
charred birch
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@storm rune alright, seems fine for me then

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the appearances are pretty awesome looking anyway

eternal perch
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Guys, is slayer or MT best for fury? Every source saying diffrent

young ether
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When Will we swap out old sets If New tier is just a few % better att 100 more ilvl

junior gale
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Archi over here like

I AM THE SOURCE

unreal cape
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Hello, i‘ve been away for a while.. how‘s fury / warrior looking for TWW?

junior gale
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solid

unreal cape
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So there are some good / fun hero talents?

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I just remember when the first ones were revealed the community wasnt too fond of em

junior gale
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Fun and theme is up to you

night stone
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is there a darkmoon deck thats decent for us?

alpine haven
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Its crazy how people dont know discord has a search function

night stone
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i searched and nobody asking that question have been answered lol

gilded pawn
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he didnt use the search function

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Its crazy how people dont know discord has a search function

alpine haven
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CRAZY

dreamy sigil
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Swapping out my DF S3 2-set (150% Bloodthirst damage) for 100 ilvl shoulder upgrade sims 115k less dps... will the old tier bonuses be disabled? 🤔

alpine haven
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they will

junior gale
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I dont see a world blizzard doesnt disable tier by the time the raid releases

clever path
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when do you think I change out my season 3 2pc items.

alpine haven
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When they get disabled

odd star
odd star
exotic glacier
edgy widget
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like to keep people guessing

exotic glacier
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Archi is in his villain phase.

gilded pawn
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colossus fury thane arms

exotic glacier
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Wat

meager void
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yes.

summer quail
edgy widget
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I presume they're asking about darkmoon deck trinket not the embellishment

edgy widget
fleet sorrel
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@sullen dove

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post uid or perish

sullen dove
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for gensh?

fleet sorrel
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or both

sullen dove
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idk if thats what its called in other games

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gotta log on

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1 sec

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635836587 for big G

fleet sorrel
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what an epic bio

sullen dove
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yep

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cocka

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honk shoo

fleet sorrel
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another epic bio

sullen dove
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huohuo

sullen dove
fleet sorrel
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?

sullen dove
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bro is a whole humpback

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w shit tho

fleet sorrel
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dont look at other game

sullen dove
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mmhmm

sullen dove
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also only c4 ayaya and c3 raiden

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pathetic honestly

fleet sorrel
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:/

sullen dove
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sorry

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too far

fleet sorrel
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i forgive you

sullen dove
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great account man!

fleet sorrel
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also log off wow

sullen dove
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pignak normals srry

polar patrol
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which darkmoon deck is best?

gloomy loom
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Where to get the highest ilvl drops right now? Looks like world quests has the best items

severe pendant
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it doesnt matter at all u have like 2 weeks to get full hc gear with some rares now just lvl what u want or do proffesions etc 😛

alpine haven
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He has to get those 580-590 pieces that get replaced instantly

alpine haven
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Save Delves for actual release

gloomy loom
alpine haven
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I mean you can upgrade them

gloomy loom
gloomy loom
alpine haven
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You wont get higher than 571 from drops rn, higher pieces are renown and upgrading pieces

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Probably not unless you wanna be a cool dude and tell everyone you have sick gear

severe pendant
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"sick"

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xD

iron portal
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Afro being helpfull

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This is a new timeline

jaunty verge
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ngl my 2nd warrior kinda stacked

nimble pewter
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do we keep out tier set at lvl. 80, the s4 one i mean? or just go for ilvl?

young swan
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ur gonna replace it eventually

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now or later doesnt really matter

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if u want to replace it, obviously go with higher ilvl

nimble pewter
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gotcha, ty

jaunty verge
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I havent replaced my 528 tier with 564 pieces yet and I still stomp stuff in normals so shrug no rush

edgy widget
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#1237307457382907924 you can replace it early just for better one-shot potential while questing, but it remains competitive until you get into raid gear

nimble pewter
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also, i guess, SMF is still nowhere near as good as TG?

junior gale
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its closer than it was in DF

sudden tusk
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ive just been replacing it

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if i need to get it back for raid for whatever reason ill just renew it

south kayak
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What?

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replacing what

sudden tusk
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tier

south kayak
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Yeah fuck tier tbh

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you lose a lot of hp and main stat

sudden tusk
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beeg

south kayak
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where's that from

sudden tusk
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rank 11 weavers

nimble pewter
sudden tusk
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severed thjreads i mean

south kayak
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you already got rank 11?

sudden tusk
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al quests done

junior gale
south kayak
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oh I see, I haven't done that yet

nimble pewter
junior gale
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no one sims smf cuz theres no point in it

edgy widget
south kayak
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Best time to play SMF is now

nimble pewter
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i enjoy using 1h weapons, but i also enjoy the fury animations a lot, warrior has probably so far the best animations of any melee class imo

edgy widget
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then play SMF

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I promise you, nobody cares what you play except for you

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and the vast majority of people won't even realize you're playing SMF when you do group with them

south kayak
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Is ringing deeps lagging for anyone else?

nimble pewter
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eh, for raiding obviously I need to change it, i was just overall curious if it has gotten any better

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but many thanks for explanations!

nimble pewter
south kayak
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nah fuck that, im moving somewhere else

iron portal
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Good lad

elder mulch
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Hey everyone i can't make a choise .. Anger Management > Reckless Abandon in DJ/MM+?

somber elk
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Is it normal that Tier set Sims way better that man replacing it guys ?

iron portal
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At which level are you simming

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@somber elk

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Here is your answer

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Prob no need to do sims at all atm

hardy cargo
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do we have updated sims for the races yet?

iron portal
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Seems like sims are yet to be updated for 80lvl content

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So that would include new races

mellow tundra
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Question: Are you supposed to put things like fauna runes / oils on both your weapons? Or just your main hand?

edgy oasis
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question fury lovers: if i have 4 stacks of WW while bladestorming, would the BT from Unhinged hit multiple targets?

sudden tusk
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no that was removed

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in a hotfix

edgy oasis
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boooo

hardy cargo
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wait they removed bt from unhinged cleaving

edgy oasis
south kayak
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What's the best dungeon and why is it The Rookery

south kayak
novel lily
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Can I safely replace slam in my hotbars with rampage or is there still a use case

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nvm I see it, I don't get to swim in rage like I thought sadge

plucky ice
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man fk slam maybe you'd press it once during boss

somber elk
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for

iron portal
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Atm yea

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Once actual gear starts to be available you can start optimising

static ridge
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are fury warrior any good in raid and m+ or is it to early to say on maxroll it say they are high up for both raid and m+ for beginner

south kayak
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They are pretty good

sick thistle
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anyone know why my macro is not working with ravager?

#showtooltip
/cast [known: Bladestorm] Bladestorm; [@player] Ravager

static ridge
south kayak
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Yes

static ridge
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are they not hard to play ?

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rage problem closer to 80 ?

edgy oasis
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what % on bloodcraze? or is it just in the rotation and its a catch up?

south kayak
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just follow the rotation, forget about bloodcraze

eternal sundial
desert loom
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does war within really not have any quirky rep grinderino like slands did?

alpine haven
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Why are we comparing the newest expansion to SL lmao

south kayak
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lmao

alpine haven
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But no

desert loom
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because sl was touted as the "alt friendly" expansion

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but you literally had to rep grind 2 accts

junior gale
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idk anyone who said Slands was alt friendly

icy jackal
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i might be stupid but i have macro for bloodbath and rampage

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and its not working

south kayak
bitter palm
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bfa*

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but yeah compared to df and now tww

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it aint even close

south kayak
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TWW is the most alt friendly so far

junior gale
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yeah it aint even close how vastly superior tww is for alts

south kayak
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Btw is it me or does Azjkahet look like Maldraxxus

warped bone
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Are any of the Darkmoon cards any good?

iron portal
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People still suffer

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And here i see people praising tww and im getting itches

bitter palm
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a long time ago

south kayak
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TWW zones are so much better than DF ones

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imo

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what's your favorite zone

iron portal
alpine haven
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goated zone

glad coyote
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i agree

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its amazing

hallow cipher
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What will you guys be playing in raid fury or arms ?

iron portal
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Best way is to play either what you prefer or switch per needs of boss/raid

hallow cipher
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Yeah ofc i was just curious if some one will go all in fury or arms 🙂

iron portal
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Very likely

coral zealot
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wtf is feral druid

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are they bugged they are doing huge huge dps

pure breach
coral zealot
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sick of getting ganked

junior gale
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then turn off warmode

coral zealot
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more xp

still basin
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What channel should I follow to know if Fury or Arms will pull ahead in Raid stuff? pardon my ignroance

thin cliff
thick oar
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So my bladstorm macro stops working when im talented into mountain thane

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dafuq

coral zealot
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this is ridic

pine walrus
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yo guys, is It fine to macro thundroar, avatar and recklesness in one button? Should be fine no?

coral zealot
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1 druid has followd me round whole zoon for 20 mins ganking me

pure breach
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He fell in love with you prob

junior gale
coral zealot
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druid shapeshifts

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60% hp

pure breach
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Lmao

pine walrus
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Could I know why? I have separated bindings for them too, but watching guides etc all openers look like the same @junior gale

still basin
#

casting avatar casts odyns fury

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do that out of the pack its gone

junior gale
iron portal
pine walrus
#

uhmm i played yesterday w fury and i m pretty sure there s no gcd issues with macro troar/reck/avatar @junior gale

junior gale
#

you have to press the macro twice yes

oblique trail
#

You can use said macro and press it once and it'll use all

junior gale
#

is it not am I a dumbass

oblique trail
#

CDs unless they do damage generally aren't on the GCD

south kayak
#

Anyone else got bugged LFG

#

16 mins in queue and average wait tiem is 4m

pine walrus
#

Yeah i just entered ingame to check it and confirm it works perfectly fine

oblique trail
#

That aside, I would not recommend using it either, and simply just get used to using them separately

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Since what Frozen said otherwise is still applicable

junior gale
#

still I would not recommend it but im not your dad and aslong as you have them also seperatly keybound its fine

pine walrus
#

Yeah I see for example in ST its recommended to use charge recklesness then rampage, but for AoE opener looks like its just send everything with bladestorm

buoyant salmon
#

sometimes you want to save avatar bc the pack is dying shortly and youre doing a big pull

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but its not dying fast enough for you to hold reck and roar

pine walrus
#

Yeah yeah, I get it. Just for perfect opener setups, it works fine for me coz i got used on rogue to do same with a special keybind to toggle shadow blades + dance + trinkets etc

hard widget
#

@oblique trail for a second there i thought u were Sil with the new picture kekw

junior gale
#

I mean its fine as long as you understand there are use cases for seperate casts and you keep that in mind and still have atleast reck keybound seperatly for that. All it really hindering muscle memory build up when things change

pine walrus
#

I have a doubt about this prio in rotation;
number 3, only priorizing bloodbath when has 90% crit strike chance is it correct?
so if i understand correctly, always use Crushing Blow perma cd until no charges, then Onslaught right? i should track bloodbath % chance with a WA , am i correct?

cyan turtle
#

do we still get the extra duration on flasks from alch? or have they changed that

hard widget
#

Usually you’ll build enough rage to use a ramp to get you another cb and bb before u’d get there

spiral gyro
#

Hey guys 🙂

Im thinking of rerolling to fury - is there any guide I can use for that that you would recommend?

brittle crow
#

😭

junior gale
#

lmao

spiral gyro
#

Also: How does the fury feel at the moment?

Havoc DH for example plays pretty garbage 😦

brittle crow
#

feelsgood

hard widget
brittle crow
#

feels like fury but better

hard widget
fossil goblet
robust kernel
#

which darkmoon decs are people using currently?

hard widget
fossil goblet
spiral gyro
#

Aight, sounds good 🙂
Then I probably gonna level my fury..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brFQzLmF82s

This guide is valid I think?

Streaming daily on https://www.twitch.tv/jeventestv
Today I'm covering everything you need to know to become an expert Slayer Fury Warrior for The War Within Season 1!

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spiral gyro
hard widget
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Thats my guide xd

spiral gyro
#

xD

#

Well then I think it is haha

#

Thanks man, I'll have a look after I did the dailys with my DH

hard widget
#

Should be accurate, unfortunately unhinged got changed right after i uploaded tho, but its in the comments

pine walrus
pine walrus
#

Im learning it from scratch so all good habits that I can build now better 😄

hard widget
robust kernel
#

Anyone using the darkmoon decks currrently if so which ones?

hard widget
#

But like i said, since our secondary stats are so low still and crit being lower value than our other stats. I doubt u get to a point where u go over 90 crit

pure breach
#

If you understand everything on Jev guide so I must say, you are ready to go

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Pretty simple and easy to understand

tulip kayak
#

Feels question. How does warrior feels right now? Specifically the thunderclap spec? Whichever one that is. I havent warrior'd my warrior yet but Im excited to try warrior and clap all the thunders after not using thunderclap for like 10 years. But does it feel good?

hard widget
#

Pretty fun to play tho

tulip kayak
#

Well I dont raid/m+. Im a super casual, quest reader, completionist, lfr andy so Im not looking to be omega competitive. Just that it feels fun and doesnt feel clunky.

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Cause something could look cool but feel super clunky in practice.

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But if it feels good, plays smoothly then Ill be excited

hard widget
#

Personally i enjoy slayer more than Thane, but both hero talents are pretty cool. But at the end of the day a feeling of what is more fun is up to yourself ^^

tulip kayak
#

Right now Im leveling as pack leader(kekw spec). So Im not looking for the best, just the one I think might be fun.

bitter palm
#

thane is goated

tulip kayak
#

Makes sense. But I mean you didnt mention it feels clunky or complained about it outside of numbers so I guess Ill just try both.

bitter palm
#

peak tree

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plays very well and looks cool af

tulip kayak
#

Yeah I like hunter more. Im a dumb hunter brain but sometimes you just wanna carry 2 big swords and make a lot of noise.

#

And warrior has been good for that.

#

Sometimes the ungabunga brain needs its endorphins.

coral zealot
#

do we keep DF tier set?

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or not?

alpine haven
#

for now

unreal onyx
#

haven't really looked at the builds yet, but we use slayer in ST and m+?

#

at least that's how I read wowhead guide

pure breach
alpine haven
#

I mean it is higher damage right now

#

but it wont matter for long

pure breach
#

I’m playing without tier set

slow quest
#

was just looking on maxroll, does this still apply?

Use ‍Bloodbath if it has more than 90% chance to critical strike.
assuming no more 4p

junior gale
#

read what bloodcraze does

sour frigate
#

when will hm instances be available?

restive peak
#

You can drop tier, we're not 1 of the class/specs where it's OP still

copper flame
#

is it a bad habit to macro avatar/reckless/thunderous roar all together as 1 button

coral zealot
#

i cant even see bloodcraze

dim meadow
oblique trail
#

Covers basically all of it

#

Long story short tho is: Occasions where you want to use them separately, trains bad muscle memory, CDs desync if using AM

copper flame
#

tyvm sir

coral zealot
#

1v1 against frost

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got no chance

#

literally cant catch

sinful spoke
#

Warband check

#

Wait my warrior looks like it has a fire cloak with two taeshalacs

spiral gyro
#

Got a few questions to the priority list:

  • Fury has like 2 CDs (Recklessness & Avatar) which will always be (no matter what) used together, right?
    So I can basically write a Macro Called "CDs" which is "Use Avatar, Use Recklessness"?

  • I then use Rampage to get Enraged and then the rest of my Priority List is basically "Get as Much Fury as Possible to never run out of enraged" right?

rigid stirrup
#

I actually macro recklessness with charge so you can rampage before hitting avatar

stark brook
#

Man I wish execute would hit harder 😄 raging blow does way more dmg right?

spiral gyro
#

Okay but you always use them both together right? Like Recklessness and Avatar

rigid stirrup
#

I mean you can

#

How you do the initial setup is up to you

#

Also if you look up just a little bit someone answered your question and even had a link to a post explaining it more

spiral gyro
#

Aight, I'll try to find it 🙂

#

One last question:

Regarding Slayer vs Mountain Thane - Im mainly playing mythic+ and Delves

I heard that slayer is the prefered spec - Is it suited for both AOE and ST?

rigid stirrup
#

Yes

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Mountain thane is garbage outside of leveling and low fort keys

spiral gyro
#

Okay, so basically Slayer is the way to go

#

MT for leveling to 80 tho

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got it

rigid stirrup
#

I mean tbh it doesn't make that much of a difference because leveling in whatever way you choose is probably the easiest it's ever been

spiral gyro
#

Yeah

rigid stirrup
#

Thane just has access to better aoe stuff

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Early on

spiral gyro
#

Ah alright

pine walrus
spiral gyro
#

So thats why its better for early leveling

#

I might have another stupid question

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I cant really find bloodbath in the spell book

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Is it an empowered ability or something?

rigid stirrup
#

Yup

spiral gyro
#

Ahh

mint obsidian
#

guys how to farm reknown?

rigid stirrup
#

Bloodthirst turns into bloodbath

spiral gyro
#

Gotcha

#

thanks!

rigid stirrup
#

Np

mint obsidian
#

do we pick Reckless Abandon instead of AM?

brittle crow
#

yes

#

@mint obsidian

restive peak
pine walrus
#

yeah just read again the prio and realized u just delay it after using raging blow charges, my bad 😄

#

so in summary u should always spend raging blow charges then after use rampage/bt right

spiral gyro
#

I just took a look at the priority list

With Odyns Fury you dont want to cast Recklessness with Avatar simoutaneously - thats why you use charge and recklessness together, yes?

restive peak
#

CB>BB

restive peak
#

So you get the 15% crit extra, you send BB as well

pine walrus
restive peak
#

No you still send CB, it's just BB prio

#

You will NEVER disregard either

#

BB/BT has a CD

pine walrus
#

yeah I mean that u priorize it

restive peak
#

Yes

pine walrus
#

kk cool

restive peak
#

If you have Ons, you do not send reck w charge

rigid stirrup
#

God damn it discord mobile being weird rn

pine walrus
restive peak
#

So you don't waste any of avatar

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If you have TR you don't really need to worry about it

modest condor
#

avatar procs odyns fury through titans torment

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also avatar generates rage

rigid stirrup
spiral gyro
rigid stirrup
#

Yup

spiral gyro
#

So I use Reck > Charge and am enraged, then I use avatar, thunderous roar, odyns fury and execute into bladestorm

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gotcha

rigid stirrup
#

Id bladestorm before odyns

modest condor
#

no you bladestorm before odyns

restive peak
#

You BS 1st

spiral gyro
#

Ah its another CD

#

with 1,5m Cooldown

pine walrus
#

I ve seen before Odins people use Rampage, is that right? only st, only aoe, depends(¿)

spiral gyro
#

But Avatar and Bladestorm can be macro'ed then right?

modest condor
#

no

spiral gyro
#

Since they have the same CD?

rigid stirrup
#

CD =/ GCD

restive peak
#

No and w slayer BS is up much, much quicker

modest condor
#

you're already using roar with avatar

#

cant also add bladestorm in there

spiral gyro
#

Ah

#

Thunderous roar?

#

Gotcha, is there a macro cheat sheet or something?

pine walrus
#

yea Thunderous has global cooldown

spiral gyro
#

im really completely new to fury warrior (or warrior in general)

pine walrus
#

so u can share only with no globals like Avatar/reck

rigid stirrup
#

Honestly better to get into the habit of making your own macros so you kinds get a better understanding

spiral gyro
#

fair

rigid stirrup
#

Only macro I would copy paste is a dstsnce back to berserk stance macro

#

Because in higher keys it'll save your life

velvet canopy
#

And the Heroic Leap one

rigid stirrup
#

That's just a @ cursor macro

#

That's something I'd recommend learning to do on your own since it can be applied to almost any class

spiral gyro
#

yeah that is no issue.. somethin like

#showtooltipp
/cast [nomod,@cursor] heroic leap

I did that before a thousand times with my demon hunter

viral jasper
#

Dont need nomod

spiral gyro
#

Oh true

viral jasper
#

Not sure what that even does tbh

spiral gyro
#

Basically when you want one kb to have mutliple uses

viral jasper
#

Oh right

spiral gyro
#

you can use [nomod] and then its bascially the kb without shift or ctrl or alt

#

so you can do like

/cast [nomod] Heroic Leap
/cast [mod:shift, @cursor] Heroic Leap

That way you can decide if you want to have the traditional "Press and Aim" or the "Faster but maybe more unprecise" way

#

Or if you have skills like a sigil of flame (big aoe you place under your mouse cursor) I found it pretty nice to use it with shift + keybind to place it underneath your character.

That way if youre in melee range, you didnt have to care where your mouse cursor was

#

But alright.. So I macro thunderous roar with avatar.

Like every second time I use thunderous roar avatar is back up - thats alright? Or is it GCD bound?

#

Not quiet sure where to see it

pine walrus
#

#showtooltip
/cast Avatar
/cast Recklessness
/cast Thunderous Roar
/cast Blood Fury

me personally im using this macro but in another keybinding, just for whenever I want to press all in open but you will find other situations where you probably dont wanna send everything and you should be using binds for each one

spiral gyro
#

Aight, got it!

So i might use them seperately from another

#

Is there anything that decreases the cooldown of odyns wrath or thounderous roar?

rigid stirrup
#

AM for odyns but we're not running that atm

spiral gyro
#

Okay so both got 45 seconds cd without anything reducing that for now

rigid stirrup
#

Oh wait I'm spreading misinformation

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That's for bladestorm

#

I'm thinking of the df s3 set bonus

desert loom
viral jasper
#

And blood fury too

#

Sequence matters

bitter palm
#

omegabased

#

and leveling is like3 hours

#

blizz catching Ws with these changes

pine walrus
viral jasper
#

Because then it buffs your odyns fury from avatar?

#

Same with blood fury, it should be before any damaging abilities always

pine walrus
#

oh yeah blood fury makes snse, but the first one i dont understand it, im noob with warrior tho thats why i ask u

#

i will change anyways just wanna know why 😄

viral jasper
#

Avatar casts odyns fury from your talents

#

So you want to have all your buffs up for that as well as roar

spiral gyro
#

Quick question:

We use Recklessness into Charge into Avatar into Rampage to get enraged, right?

#

Or just Recklessness -> Charge -> Rampage ?

viral jasper
#

Charge>reck

storm rune
#

no, reck > charge

viral jasper
#

With RA you get enough to ramp anyway and you dont waste reck time

junior gale
#

reck > charge

viral jasper
#

If you are doing your opener you are overcapping anyway, that makes no sense

storm rune
#

nah youre good

pine walrus
junior gale
modest condor
junior gale
#

reck as a cd is pretty shit too

viral jasper
modest condor
#

if you charge > reck you rely on auto attacks hitting to be able to get enough rage to rampage

#

if you reck > charge you are guaranteed to have enough rage

viral jasper
#

Charge plus ra gets you enough right

storm rune
#

no

junior gale
#

70 rage

#

charge 20 ra 50

viral jasper
#

I thought rampage was 65 for some reason

storm rune
#

80

desert field
spiral gyro
#

So to break it down:

Opener = Recklessness -> Charge -> Enrage -> Avatar -> Thunderous Roar -> Odyns Fury -> Bladestorm, then Priority List
Priority List is simplified:

#1 If not enraged:

  • Bloodbath
  • Execute (if 20% health)
  • Ramp
  • Bloodthirst
  • Crushing Blow
  • Filler (Either Improved Whirlwind or Slam)

If enraged Priority list remains pretty much the same excpet the addition the CDs

  • TRoar (45 secs)
  • Bladestorm (1,5m secs)
  • Odyns Fury (45 secs)

So bascially I can use Avatar and Recklessness whenever needed (Either on CD or a little delayed for Lust / Hero) and the other CDs once they are up and im enraged, right?

viral jasper
#

No odysn is not before ba

#

Bs

spiral gyro
#

Ah sorry, missed to correct that from before

hardy shuttle
#

If not enraged ramp BB and bt and odyns if talented are definitely higher prio than crushing blow

spiral gyro
#

Aight I edited it

storm rune
#

Also everything might change once the apl gets updated and we decide whether or not we stick with TR

pure breach
#

Also that’s true

spiral gyro
#

No worries, thats fine

#

I just gotta get something to start with

#

So i can somewhat memorize the playstyle and priority list

hardy shuttle
#

It'd be ramp, bt/bb, cb, execute, rb right? Based on change to enrage and rage generation

spiral gyro
#

To shift something then is no biggy

viral jasper
#

My question is do we send odyns right after bladestorm or do we spend whirlwind stacks first

desert loom
viral jasper
#

I assume we go ramp bb cb ramp odyns after bs

hardy shuttle
#

It'd most likely be cb then ramp after bs

junior gale
#

I wouldnt delay OF just to spend WW stacks

hardy shuttle
#

Because the bs casted your bb and you want to use the cb charge

viral jasper
#

Right this is for ramp first

hardy shuttle
#

Using both cb and bb is prio as long as you are enraged before casting another rampage

viral jasper
#

Only matters in that case if we drop trage

#

Or on single

storm rune
#

Also also, TR means ramp isn't technically required for enrage

hardy shuttle
#

You don't want to waste a cast of either cb or bb

viral jasper
#

I could have missed some context though

storm rune
#

Yeah but in aoe you could just charge avatar and not worry, but frankly that's gonna get you dead

viral jasper
storm rune
viral jasper
#

By the time bladestorm is over the dot wont be wasted

storm rune
#

yeah it overlaps by like half a gcd or something iirc, pretty sure haste scales everything linearly so it shouldn't change at higher values?

#

but in general you want to get your abilities on CD as fast as possible, so send it asap after BS

viral jasper
#

Ya i mean this also assumes mobs are still alive enough for it lol

#

Can just lead odyns next pack

junior gale
#

just normal dungeon issues

#

things will live eventually

trail moss
#

Have that issue lately especially with low level scaling dont really get a chance to get a full opener off half the time

junior gale
#

yeah I wouldnt take gameplay rn seriously

#

just chill out have some fun and grind

trail moss
#

Tbh I've been jumping back and forth between few classes trying to think of what i want main, I always end up coming back to warrior just a matter of when

neat grail
#

gotta ask is the darkmoon trinkets worth to get now early or not for us fury guys?

small dome
#

why is MT the choice for open world?

past pivot
#

Less ramp up time, tag more targets with TC

bold plank
#

Do I break myth track set bonus now with gear ~20-30 ilvl higher?

#

(or is there a guide entry I'm missing for when to break set bonus?)

#

.. i guess it doesn't matter much, no challenging conent. lol

warm crag
crude ridge
#

Wait, is that saying we don't replace DFs4 until we get TWWs1? Like even 600+ purps won't be upgrades?

viral jasper
#

This is also dependent on if they just disable them tuesday anyway

static ridge
#

Do we think that fury warrior will get a nerf ?

frank dawn
#

Already did. Pour one out for Unhinged

oblique trail
#

@sudden tusk M4S down, got mount as well gladge

calm quartz
#

Insane

bitter palm
fickle cedar
#

is the fragrance trinket good for fury ?

clever belfry
native wadi
#

friends

#

wondering whats the logc behind the 574 for warband drops

#

from the rares

#

anyone knowns?

#

i want big weapon

past pivot
#

RNG, hope for luck

upbeat plume
#

I mean next week opens heroic dungeons anyway this early access is barely a blip in terms of gearing

tranquil pollen
#

any of you guys got a bloodcraze weak aura for tracking stacks?

dense elbow
#

Nop

#

Send it, and if ya crit ya crit

balmy socket
#

hey guys, is there any good weakaura package for everythign

tranquil pollen
#

i thought that may be the case wasnt sure if i had to hold out for max stacks

balmy socket
#

like afenar did back in the days

tranquil pollen
#

hes still got one

#

there are plenty full packages there

balmy socket
#

but no afenar sadly... anything u can say its good?

tranquil pollen
#

its saying its missing hero talents still so not sure how comprehensive that is

balmy socket
#

but it says Ex afenar, isnt it outdated? 😄

#

yea thats like the point xD

#

u need to tracked marked for death and shit

#

so prob take the luxthos wa?

tranquil pollen
#

yeah then i guess just check what ones you like the look of out

eager bobcat
#

how is RA vs AM doing right now?

edgy widget
#

not much reason to take AM tbh

junior gale
#

Unhinged change ain't helping AM stonks either

clever belfry
#

@oblique trail mraow

urban drum
#

what takes priority when crushing blow and bb are up?

junior gale
#

CB unless your BB is at 90% crit or more

sullen cloak
#

Is sim craft accurate for sims now ?

#

Ie replacing my gear with new stuff ?

urban drum
slim coral
#

Why is mechagnone BiS s racial

#

What’s the interaction

restive peak
#

Am very accustomed to it

slim coral
#

I use atrocity

#

Am very accustomed to it

slim coral
#

False

#

It has to have a racial

restive peak
#

UI is always just preference and comfort, like Biz’ UI literally gives me cancer but he’s one of the current goats so

#

Mechagnome has the dmg stacking racial

slim coral
#

What’s that

restive peak
#

Longer you’re in combat =
More damdam

slim coral
#

Never played it

restive peak
#

I don’t remember the name

eternal sundial
#

Just more str + cheat death (very small one)

oblique trail
slim coral
#

Interesting

oblique trail
slim coral
#

I’m thinking survivability racials will be BiS for prog because of the nexus princess

#

She kills you at 10% and gains stacking damage per kill

eternal sundial
#

That's a yell at healer angle

#

If anything

clever belfry
slim coral
#

Also I’m pretty sure there is a nasty dot on the last boss

clever belfry
#

when it came out it was quite good

#

but now nahh

slim coral
#

It’s ok it’s bis racial so we HAVE to go it

restive peak
#

I draw the line at mechagnome tbh

#

I refuse to look like a fuckin diaper gnome

slim coral
#

Too late linccc

clever belfry
#

the only redeeming factor for mechagnome is their swimming animation

slim coral
#

It’s bis

junior gale
#

You have to be downbad to play diaper baby race

clever belfry
#

they get fucking propellers as arms

#

to swim

#

proper King shit

restive peak
#

NE masterrace

slim coral
restive peak
#

I’ll blame my healers

junior gale
#

Nelf supremacy always

slim coral
#

And it’s all because you didn’t have the racial

restive peak
#

Or 1 of the floor POV casters

#

Casters, amiright

slim coral
#

Funny enough it happened to Kalamazi on sire

#

Boss lived with 2.5k hp

#

That shit was funny

restive peak
#

We wiped on what would’ve been us30th fyrakk at .7% because our dh dashed with seed during pushback and went into the fire

#

Was the saddest I’ve ever heard him

eternal sundial
#

What does us 30 translate to

slim coral
#

Dashing with seed omegalul

eternal sundial
#

In real number

restive peak
#

Idk world like 700 probably

eternal sundial
#

Good bants

restive peak
#

Love you

slim coral
#

It’s like world 100th

junior gale
#

I remember having a Lego axe diff wipe on Fyrakk

eternal sundial
#

@sullen dove glazed owns u

junior gale
#

If I had the Lego it was a kill

eternal sundial
sullen dove
north geyser
#

is the talent unhinged working for you guys? my WW stacks aren't going down while I Bladestorm so I'm not sure if it's using the BT correctly. Unless they got rid of it being able to cleave?

slim coral
#

@sullen dove I am free to coach you again tonight

sullen dove
#

again???

slim coral
#

Yep

sullen dove
#

settle down there bucko

slim coral
#

It’s ok Rafkar coached me once

#

Was worth the gold

sullen dove
#

who

eternal sundial
slim coral
thick fossil
eternal sundial
#

Im still human idk what to do yet

sullen dove
#

stay human

eternal sundial
#

Probably gonna stay or orc

sullen dove
#

lot of stuns in these dungeons

junior gale
#

Race looks good isn't short shadowmeld op

#

Nothing else beats nelf

bitter palm
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make sure it stays that way

eternal sundial
thick fossil
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Shadowmeld has saved my bacon way more than it should have. At least in keys.

bitter palm
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just play velf then

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literally same dps

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and has a 10x cooler racial

eternal sundial
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Hardly useful tbf

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But when it is

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Oh boy

junior gale
bitter palm
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unlike mechagnome

thick fossil
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And you don't look like a hunchback like orcs.

restive peak
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Can cancel the charge on 2nd boss in ara Kara with meld so far that I’ve tried

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Bis

sullen dove
thick fossil
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lol, true, maghar is not that bad.

junior gale
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Shadowmeld is great for doing taunt spell reflects with pug tanks

bitter palm
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maghar turbo based

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too bad it will be on cd

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from trying to live packs

eternal sundial
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Chat is the yuno miles verse on the ye song real

eternal sundial
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No

bitter palm
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wdym

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real orcs

eternal sundial
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It's cosplay cringos

thick fossil
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lol

eternal sundial
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Be a green man

thick fossil
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phil, coming in savage style.

eternal sundial
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None of that Orange stank

bitter palm
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ok hear me out

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add dragon charge to the talent tree

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but make it knock up only

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we need cc

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wait

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"we need cc"

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ok

exotic glacier
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Hear me out, anything 12.0 arms suggests. never do.

bitter palm
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charges to the mob at the back

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dies from 9 frontals

thick fossil
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Don't we still have shockwave or thunder hammer?

eternal sundial
bitter palm
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cba typing quotes on phone

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effort

odd star
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nelf is goated specially in tiers where our dps is bursty

eternal sundial
junior gale
exotic glacier
bitter palm
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extend demolish cast time

exotic glacier
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^

eternal sundial
bitter palm
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its way too fast

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u can actually dodge things

junior gale
bitter palm
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make it so that when u press demolish u just die

exotic glacier
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I hate being able to move in my rotation.

thick fossil
bitter palm
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where it stuns and knocksup

exotic glacier
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make Bladestorm keep us locked in place and increase the duration, but reduce the number of spins (I get dizzy)

bitter palm
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or something

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i forgot

eternal sundial
exotic glacier
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o I know it.

bitter palm
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it exists for bladestorm as well

eternal sundial
bitter palm
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phil dont forget we have a fear overcooked

exotic glacier
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"it's just not it"

heady saffron
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lol i feel so scuffed without 4set, i probably should look at lvl80 build surely something changed

bitter palm
bitter palm
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peak

eternal sundial
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still xd

viral jasper
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If dracthyr dont get changed for other classes they will be busted

heady saffron
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hmm

viral jasper
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Wonder what they give them

bitter palm
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idc im playing void elf

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for the racial

exotic glacier
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not druid.

bitter palm
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we balling

exotic glacier
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Velf racial?

viral jasper
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Does it still get stuck all the time

bitter palm
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tp

exotic glacier
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that cant be worth it. It goes SO slow

thick fossil
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pfft, Void elf.... the wanna be blood elf with tentacles.

heady saffron
bitter palm
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what is this velf slander

slim coral
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Everyone knows you go BiS for prog

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Unless you need a certain racial for fights like fyrakk

sullen cloak
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He guys. Just wanting to sim some gear, darkmoon trinkets etc

Is sim craft working OK?

graceful ruin
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what are our top dmg sources looking like in ST and AoE?

rotund ginkgo
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hi gangstas

graceful ruin
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wondering if BB or CB do more damage, and if either do more than rampage mostly

gilded pawn
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Cb

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And both do more than rampage

graceful ruin
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in both ST and AoE?

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that's wild lol

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kinda like it though idk

edgy widget
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Rampage actually does more direct damage, but the others have auxilary effects

graceful ruin
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I know BB procs cshb and stuff but what does CB have?

edgy widget
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+32% power during enrage, bloodcraze, and slaughtering strikes

graceful ruin
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ahh right