#fury
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You forgot to turn on "hide bars in combat"
You tell me? i just tested fury on target dummiez
you are tracking enrage twice
why would i hide the bars in combat?
Atleast the dps meter is in an optimal spot
You want to avoid seeing the same info mulitple times, as you will just overload your cognetive functions - basically, all the blinking and flashing lights subcontiously tire you out
i'm pretty sure i don't have any doubles anywhere
and i'm not bothered by the flashing.
the bars for RA are defo not needed
i find it easier to see if a bar exists than to check which image the icon is showing
personal pref i guess? i have been a pvp pløayer since TBC 😄 so i have all my button twice. Still deliver BigDam
i also want to see how long i have until it falls off incase of downtime or moving between packs
its probably action bars not a wa
a well set up action bar can look like a wa
@edgy widget is very adamant abt this
u can totally hide slam
100% bro just has it set up in a way that doesnt allow that
this is all i see when im in combat
so he must perish
Do I do a sad heroic clear or keys
Logout
it's a button, not a WA
u can hide buttons!
I don't see the point in making WA's for action bars. I'd rather save the system memory
You can hide bars, not buttons
Is that not functionally the same thing?
if i want to hide that singular button that means i need another action bar purely for that 1 single button, that's too much work for a single square in a UI
There's nothing else rotationally important to slot in there anyway; so whats the harm it being there. It's not taking up enough screen that it's damaging my ability to play
what
yo can i take your rank 2, im struggling
i need to beat jasun first
joever
what what?
I always int at smolderon
I do sales mostly and sometimes I pug for fun
I pug in prepatch to test stuff
but yeah i havent raided in a guild in a long time
cocka
@smoky vale look at this guy don't look at me
dont look at me
guh
I look at your logs a lot
very real statement
w zhai
yea dont worry last time youll be doing that

back in a real season where im proggin world last 700 pulls on a boss wont b parsing anything anymore 
but yea its fun to like break apart logs and yoink their cds and stuff
did that for raszageth in awakened almost exactly copied top log at the time worked out pretty nice
idk my current logs are pretty fake
same...
all prepatch logs are fake tbf
Hahaha
ill explain in a se
c
in a key
i joined an amir pug with a ce guild gearing, got lucky when they had a fully geared frost dk to one shot thigns for me
i think im about 97 avg
same...
plagued by an 80 on council that'll never be recovered cuz we cant evenly dps and fight lasted 7 fuckin minutes...
did they heal
ya
and RL said fuck it
ya
kekl
that is not normally
except you raid mythic
yea
feel like a ton of top logs are just propped up by like the broken classes
like aside from tindral/fyrakk padgodx
like almost all of the top logs on full st bosses just have like 2-3 hunters doing 200k more dps
so idk just kinda doin the best with what ya got
man the kills i have of nymue and larry were prison
yea laro annoying...
holding cds for adds but then you dont get a third set of cds on boss that dies at 3:30
Just raid with a guild who does less damage so you always get your third set 
i mean yea
patented tmy strat
we randomly are just way better this season at doing fights...
i guess idk being max gear and tons of practice is feelsgood maybe
like 700 prog pulls of fyrakk somehow and then idk can pretty reliably kill him in like 3-5 pulls now week by week
can i link a yt vod or will i get nuked?
eh prolly not too big a deal but also like maybe just rip it in #general or something
nobody real types in there anyway
so real
i have that channel muted xD
no
even if you press video at the bottom?
phil jumpscare
the replay is not a youtube vod
can you try again
idk its been there for as long as ive been playing retail
which is only late season 2
then again i dont use the replay feature i solely look at casts
u can have it
just got yelled at in a key, so when should i use pummel to interupt>>??
When a bad cast is about to go off. In a group, there should be communication from the tank. In a pug, pummel the worst cast that can't be spell reflected. A mouseover macro works very well for Pummel
thank you sir, you are a gentleman and a scholar.
Many plater profiles will highlight important casts that need to be interrupted - I use jundies profile https://wago.io/ak3iS95aa and I like it a lot
Does it show spells that can be reflected? I'd want to reflect a spell first, pummel second, blame mage third.
It does
“Blame mage third” HAH! Love it
The cast bar is pink if you can reflect (and if it's targeting you IIRC), has a pixel glow for important casts, is yellow by default, or orange if your pummel is on cd and won't be back up by the time the cast finishes
i just get the spell reflect essentials weakaura that does the "if reflectable and targeted on you" work for you
and dbm gives info about casts
Yeah I use both the weakaura and the plater profile
I'm a little stupid so having both helps
I love when I get targeted and hit spell reflect only for someone to interupt it
Whenever I do guild keys I always call that I'm reflecting and those mfs kick anyways
get one of those annoying SR announcer WAs
that have you tell smthn like "Spell Reflect active, do not kick"
hate when people have stuff like that
Nah I use it too much for the DR on non-reflectable stuff
I'd get kicked from any pug I did
can you link the standalone mod for the spell reflect cast color nvm i stole it myself
The 3rd boss of throne if you RNG's the spell reflect it basically did the same but also healed you for everything every second
Yeah there was also the one kick
Plunging depths or some shit like that
Big dam if you reflect it
Oh yeah I was running with a rogue guildie and he was shocked lol
He started talking about making warrior when he saw that
worst feeling is when the mobs would target everyone but the warrior
like ik it isn't my fault but I felt awful when that would happen
Pocket anvil or puzzle box?
box
take whatever you can get because it doesn't matter anymore
well i had anvil and got box in the vault
take the box then
thx!
its the last vault of the xpac so enjoy it
gonna unbox the shit out of that ting
Nothing is worse than a big reflect coming up, you call out to not kick while pressing SR, and the spell immediately gets kicked.
You can't even be mad because they're doing what they're supposed to do but fuck I get unreasonably mad when that happens.
I gave up trying to optimize my reflects from interruptible spells in pugs.
once key starts they just forget everything you asked to before
Oh not pugs I'm talking guild group with all 5 in disc
quesiton: I love fury as a spec but i really dont like dual weilding. Any suggestions for a single weapon fury build?
Literally not possible
Some of your abilities only work with 2 weapons
might as well play arms with that single weapon nonsense talk
big fan of your Elise sir
I think it's "enhanced enemy castbar" but idk how one imports/exports that directly, I just yoink Jundies' hard work 
yeah i just imported the entire thing and then imported the mod to my profile
hows mountain thane looking atm?
is it in a good spot for launch or is it all about slayer
it's all about slayer
does mountain thane thunderblast still hit hard?
Does anyone have the fury tww sims sheet they can link me
always liked mt fury, was gonna go hunter but after being gutted im thinking i go with my back up fury war
always enjoyed pvp with fury too albeit the lack of mortal wounds was a bitch until they gave us it
It is lookin' alright; but - a big but, MT ST is quite behind, so expect a buff for MT and then its all good
thane is still satisfying and fun but slayer pretty much outperforms thane in everything except tankyness
im sure thane will win the tuning dice roll some day
just like im sure we'll be meta in m+ some day
Just count week 1 of the season as meta


mine is hidden!
@mossy fox hello critcake, what embellishment are you running? also is arms or fury better in the war within? thank you
hello strima what equipment you bought with bullions 
ello critcake What butten do you bind auto to, also is arms or fury looking better in midnight
depends
that's what im SAYIN
are we playing with titanic rage for ST raid? wowhead says yes but maxroll no
dancing blades*
I'm gonna go back and hide my slam and whirlwind just to make you fuckos happy xD
i still don't think it matters
I dont think the difference is that big. Db is prolly better for absolute pure st(smold) but if there is any AOE that you will use OF during(igira) titanic is better
Loss of anni makes db less effective
suggest a button to put in that slot!
hide the slot!!
ur bars dont have to be symmetrical rows
thankss
@edgy widget Blizzard heard your call for an image and put a nice one in the lastest blue post
https://www.wowhead.com/news/blizzard-blog-on-hero-talents-high-quality-hero-talent-icons-345864
Could probably take this and make something of it
Yeah I saw that
Slayer is the hard one, since it doesn't have any unique visuals to begin with
bladestorm circle not good enough? xD
bladestorm of blood
This def gotta be one of the coolest icons right
all the celestial colors just swirlin behind the bro
If only it was two people coming in for the epic fist bump
god fist lee sin looking ahh
bro is the avatar
conduit of the blind monks lookin ahh
if only it was two people coming
@covert blaze and i, mayhaps?
Can I macro reck+avatar+thunderous roar or is that bad?
u can tho if u run uproar might be hard to see the cds of ava or roar whatever is in macro first
can still work around that but idk typically nicer to have roar/spear as separate bind
cuz u do also want to be enraged for roar so in like st build might not have titanic rage
did you end up seeing the log i posted?
did you post this in both channels
uh I think I saw the replay yea just didn’t know how to get to YouTube from there
Either way was there something specific u wanted to know something about, cuz I think that was a s3 log from like 4 months ago

nah i wanted to show you how the boss was being tanked, but there is a video button at the buttom of the replay
if i kill fyrakk on heroic i dont have to do other difficulties right?
random q: do we still play 2p2p in M+? or 4p with the weird WA?
mythic will get you a better chance for legendary
play what u want the difference is tiny anyway
but if you kill on heroic, you wont get anything from normal or lfr
how many h fyrakk kills do you currently have
14ish
oh then kill again, youll probably get it
i got mine on my 14th kill
its 100% chance on your 15th kill i believe for heroic
and its 7 on mythic
help! im still missing a mount from pandaria but i cba to go get it
ok so im tad confused in my own thoughts can someone help. odyns fury+ titans torment talents they do not stack i know but they do add the timers so why are ppl waiting like 4 seconds to cast odyns?
the bleed from odyns
the timers get added*
*to an extent

kk tyty
Hey when do you optimally bladestorm during pre patch fury? Any real window of oppertunity? Or do I cast it at least while Avatar is up? Like does it need to be comboed with any other cd's?
And yes I know you use it when enraged that's a no brainer.
in cds ideally with ww stacks for aoe if unhinged
So you want Reck up as well? Cause that's really pushing that short cd to its limits.
Cause I imagine you want to get an OF in reck during its time as well.
you can ava bs ramp of in cds just fine
So is it Reck, Avatar, Thunderous roar, Rampage, then Bladestorm? After bladestorm you Raging Blow, OF, then rampage? Is that it?
i wouldnt do the rb there - you have 3 before the BS -2 from unhinged -1 from ramp
of refreshes ww stacks anyways
So OF then use raging blow? Basically just swap?
Cause I did RB then OF and managed to get them all off with 1 second of Reck left as I cast OF even with the RB.
Ugh.. this whole starting rotation is just a lot..
if i can ramp i ramp unless im playing ra
its fully static
learn it once and ur done
But I am playing RA
During pre patch it was reccomended even for aoe/M+ it seems
though we probably won't play RA as slayer come war within
i play am in keys cuz i just cba 
For AoE burst, just do:
Reck+Ava+Roar, Spin to win, rampage, OF
Then dont worry about anything, but burst millions 
wish reck was less of a shit cd
cocka
Okay. I just keep hearing so much differing opinions. Some say RA procs are more important than max rage and using Rampage. Others say during that window to ignore them. My take is RA just muddies everything and makes it more confusing than it needs to be
Just do what I said, dont worry about it - Odyn's Fury + Titanic Rage is life

almost like there's a guide for this 😛
So... RA procs are more important than max rage and Rampage? 🙂
if cb does more dmg than rampage then yes 
only to a point
- Bloodbath is auto-consumed by Bladestorm/Ravager, so using it is not as important to cast yourself
- Using RA is not as important as using OF/BS in multitarget

And for ST?
same thing - Bloodbath is auto-consumed by Bladestorm/Ravager, so it is not as important to cast yourself while those are up, otherwise press CB > BB > Rampage
Oook thanks
whats the best burst macro i should use?
Swifty has one
Well it was ten years ago
it's pretty much just
/use 13
/cast recklessness
/cast avatar
/cast thunderous roar
but doesnt thuderous roar not match with the others?
which is why you still have a keybind for it
okay
If u don’t have titanic rage yeah for sure
And if u do small optimization to do it to send 1 bb off in a bladestorm instead of bt
but that’s more prio dmg less overall/burst number
Than just ripping all the aoe in 1 global (and dying to aggro 3 seconds later)
hahah interesting
wrath and fury not fixed in latest update?
still has not been fixed
Hey guys is there any good macros for fury couldn't find a section for it

so not many all good must more of a classic thing to use macro's for cd's etc
fury has very little buttons to press. it is recommended to separate binds for everything. If you still wants to combine, you can do it. but you should still have binds separate in other keys.
thats fair atm i do have everythign seperately bound thought maybe reck and avatar could be bound
personally i have only one macro that bind ava and reck. but i have separte one for reck alone too.
ok cool
Ran some 17-18 dungeons today and man shit slaps hard. (Bosses tyrannical) Stance dance 🕺 is wild. Anyone use any clever macros for def stance?
gholak is a one hander so no
i guess soulcleaver is onyl other decent 2h bullion option?
/cast [stance:2] Defensive Stance; [stance:3] Berserker Stance
#showtooltip
/cast [stance:2]!Defensive Stance;!Berserker Stance
thanks
Do yall know if raider i.o is going to show pre patch i.o or end of s4?for Start of season 1 tww
dont put it in your macro imo, too many times where im pressing my cds, but every mob isnt in range or adds will be spawning like 10 seconds into a fight


Usually shows end of s4
May not show at all
I TOLD YOU WRATH AND FURY ISN'T BUGGED
THEY JUST WANT TO NERF FURY
UNTIL EXPANSION LAUNCH
NOBODY BELIEVED ME
Okay...? 😂
I assume we're grabbing wrath and fury when it's fixed and never pressing slam again?
you press slam?
nah its just bound to happen sometimes without hero talents
but once we get hero talents i think i casted slam maybe 3 times in a 5 minute period and that was without the buffed Raging blow reset buff or Wrath and Fury
Ok so the last few GIFs were just dislike, not that I'm incorrect xD
oh more joking then any form of malice
Oh of course
Shit is just changing alot with prepatch and then prepatch.2 so i didnt know if there was new info
nah as it stands you will cast slam every now and then if you play fury, but should change with hero talents
Yeah, cool I am still correctly informed then 😄
Was testing shit in beta but it's so hard to keep up until it's cemented
yeah Execute procs from slayer will fill our rotation out a bit more as well as 2 stacks of Sudden death so you most likely will not press it
if you get omega unlucky its possible you stull might press it but realistically charge weaving will be a better rage source between globals to get you to your next rampage then pressing the button
Oh man, I charge weaved back in legion that shit is fun
Leap out, charge in. Super fun
its something i dont really do that much, but it will be easier to do considering we will have way less haste
once we get to our new level cap
That haste change from leveling is gonna be painful
yar
It's necessary but man, we spam alot atm
Tbf, going from remix to retail is the same feeling xD
Remix haste is dumb
You said no wow and no discord for a week
Man lacks discipline
deal didn't go through
i said my conditions
they weren't met
Can you pretend the conditions were met for a week? 

can't do that big man
i don't even chat that much anymore in fury discord
when i do i do say some stupid shit
but i dont chat every day

i mean you can do it for fun
what does 2% peak on genji mean
and if you only clear mythics for vault rewards then ye its not worth it but surely theres more reasons than that to do mythics
@oblique trail hey man ive been wondering what to play in the TWW is fury looking good ? how is it rn?
@oblique trail
@oblique trail
2% peak
ow doesnt track ranks like that
2%
there used to be this useless website that listed u as % on a character
(didnt care about rank, just stats)
o ye i remember that ig
so if youd hard bomb yourself to <500 and then start playing a character youd be top1
ez
gg!
man <500 was so king
it was 3 kinds of players
legit afk
people that bought smurfs
and people roleplaying in ranked
10/10
fly broken wing
i will rip your wings out
then how will i embrace my ideal
big chees economy in the supermarket
kees
i totally love pressing slam, i dont start punching the air when i do ahahhahaha 🙂
just listing personal accomplishments in my bio
is all haha
ye no i get that but whats the stat from
Means he was 1.9% away from title spot, I guess
overbuff
have you considered that i am #73 mercy
spongie stats in destiny 2 3 kills during raids
but 28th percentile on the character i hit top 500 at ??? hahahah
what language is vor 48 monaten
german
That’s only purple parse noob
28th percentile is green
Oh you meant bottom 28 I thought you meant top 28=72 LOL
Numbers are funny
Strive elphelt is real
strive elphelt is fake
🧢
Me no xrd player just got into gg during strive
Played smash when I was younger, then first real fighting game is dbfz and strive
fair
I just hate strive because im a hater and also because i miss the old designs
As someone who didn’t play those I fkn love strive
Elphelt only char I’ve enjoyed other than axl tho… 
sol cabooseguy
doxxed my account name wtf
googling google outside of your house

@solemn plover i have uludag gazoz are you upset about this new information
making a wowhead article with your address on it
i am
wtf man
i didnt wanna go to work today
and i come to work
they dont give me any work
im just sitting here not doing anything
im bored af
guys just confirming something
confirm away
do abilites that inherently enrage do, enrage you before or after the hit
like rampage or odyns fury
pog
so macroing in this order, reck->avatar->thunderous roar should be alright
as long as youre fury starved
this should be your macro
as follows:
/cast Recklessness
/cast Avatar
/cast Thunderous Roar
after that just bladestorm
ye exactly
i usually do 1 rampage before because i get the fury
that also works
then bladestorm, BT, OF and continue zugging
for the Horde? nah. for the Alliance? nah. FOR THE ZUG ZUG!
Lurking a bit and checking warrior stuff. Why is warrior pressing slam now?
Is it free and deals more DMG than ww in ST?
it deals more dmg than WW
it costs no rage for fury
so in pure ST raid fights
better
Yuck!!
But then I can't aoe 😦
i mean if u want optimal dmg then do that
what are you gonna aoe on a singletarget raid fight?
The dummies I drop to artificially increase my dps
fury players when they have to press whirlwind: 😊
fury players when they have to press slam (literally whirlwind but better): 🤮
But ok, thanks. Just curious what changed 🙂
slam got buffed by a shitton and the rage cost got removed
it does like 2x the damage of whirlwind now or something
and since base whirlwind also generates no rage, if you're not talented into improved ww, it's just the same ability but with more damage
dont listen to big cleaver
So wait, if you have meat cleaver you use WW in ST? As rage overshadows the DMG lost?
We don’t like extra keybinds
you dont need it
Clap/Whirlwind/Slam - (uses clap if Mountain Thane, Whirlwind if talented but not Thane, or Slam if neither)
#showtooltip
/cast [known:436707] Thunder Clap
/cast [known:280392] Whirlwind
/cast Slam
What seems to be stronger after the update between Arms and Fury?
Isn’t whirlwind baseline so always used over slam in this macro?
Oh wait i got it now
Play what u like
What if, when using that macro, you're in a ST fight but some mobs spawn and you try pressing the macro but you can't get WW stacks? It's just over?
so this means enrage will always do damage * mastery not what is shown on the tooltip unenraged?
my goat
you wouldnt be able to get ww stacks anyway if you dont have imp ww/meat cleaver talented
and if there are adds you'll talent into that anyway
Oh right, felt something was off while typing that out, thanks for clearing that up.
So we seriously press ww in ST if we have those talented? I don't recall this being a thing in DF, is this new with tww prepatch/beta?
But i wanna know what's strongest 
Hello Critcake 
you press those as filler on ST yes
it's a bit more than a filler as thane though
Ok ignore me ;-;
hi galachef
Thank you


I see thanks that's a really nice macro to have then, clears up some bindings.
Can't believe I've been using slam when I didn't need to💀
yeah it's nice cause i'd definitely forget i need to press slam on st when none of those are talented
when im full st on like smolderon or volcoross and i press my ww bind as filler, slam goes off and im like oh right
One thing I did when I was learning fury was just randomly pressing ww in my rotation and just wasting a global instead of pressing rampage/bb
Yea definitely gonna use that it's too good not to.
A lot of times I used to press ww because slam was in such an awkward keybind I couldn't move and attack lol. This changes everything
i love finding gold and just copying it to my personal discord
You not understanding and relating to this feeling; tells me you are not a Fury Warrior at heart Silm
🗡️
🗡️
wosh wosh wosh
wosh wosh wosh
wosh wosh wosh
Not big enough for you to really sweat over it
It's all irrelevant in a week anyways
Just send it on whatever is on wowhead since you're just ignoring the 4pc from s4 anyways
pins
Only thing I change is having bladestorm instead of ravager since it's currently bugged
Or maybe it got hot fixed? Idk

we will still be top mythic choice and top 3 raid choice even with the small changes we are all good, thought arms was gonna be peak but they evened it out.
ah ok, its just the maxdps homepage says u should go into AM instead of RA and take tenderize not of
So in TWW if you are Thane you won't ever talent into WW? That's sweet. Too many keybinds
I only really do m+. I don't even have slam on my bars. Is that giga loss?
as thane
Ty sir
Sick macro ty sir
if you are thane it claps
if you arent thane but are talented into imp ww it wws
if none of the above it slams
so good. Let's make dem cheeks clap boys
Looks like we're maining Fury warrior for TWW boys, can I get a

Doesn't really matter, everything is close to one another and sims are unreliable rn in prepatch
ok ^_^
This shit giving me carpal tunnel but it's too fun
🗡️
🗡️
All I do is
no matter what
No lie.. I am going to see a neurologist in 2 weeks due to carpal tunnel lol. Fury + Weight Training is bad combo for Carpal Tunnel Syndrome.
Can probably get more ergonomic champ
Fix your setup, posture, etc
ngl if he works on a pc all day
then games and weight lifting
it can be rough for the wrists
It can be but it's doable if you work on certain things
I work on PC all day, game, lift weights, do jiu-jitsu
plus my wrists are skinny as hell because of my body type but can work with it
its like everything else genetics as well
Most important things are getting your ergonomics right
I'm also 38.. Lol
The years add up
Yeah I feel you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSD35Q15rm8
This helped me a lot, give it a try
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About a year and a half ago I started developing symptoms of Carpal Tunnel syndrome and it really freaked me out! I now st...
I think you would benefit greatly from neck, shoulder, upperback mobility work
Oh that's for sure haha. Thanks I'll try. I'll do it while i am waiting in queue lo
My understanding is a simple surgery alleviates the issue. When I sleep at night my hands go completely numb.
Pin for all warriors haha
IMO look for non-surgical options
Surgery isn't really worth it and it can come back
Better to find a solution for the source of the problem IMO.
why get wrist pain haiyaa...
oh good you're not purple anymore crit
wdym
i dont see crit playing dh
didn't they change the font of your name
hes had the yellow name for years
when they rolled out the twtich role they changed the color of your rname
either that or my edible was peaking when I was on disc
Ah, Icon is always showing, not only when you are streaming
that is it
indeed
you get assigned the <live> role, which takes priority :3
:3
do you think streamers like crit, get gold from random viewers
Time to boot up the stream and send some gold
Will I have issues getting invited to pugs as fury warrior?
thats an asmongold exclusive
yeah true, i know some do it and some dont, like Xaryu absolutely doesnt take handouts
I keep reading that pugs don't invite warriors but I don't want to sip the cool aid
i probably would if i was a streamer lol
Xaryu my goat
In my personal experience i'd say its easier to get into raids than m+
cuz there is more spots and war is a raidbuff
In m+ though its less likely you'll be invited over other classes/specs
Also depends on factors like score, how many people actually apply to the key and so on
can anyone share the charge bladestorm release spirit meme please
for some reason people think warriors suck, idk why. i was just playing around last night queing up for some 7s and it took like 10 minutes to get an invite at ilvl 525 lol
This one?
then ur score is bricked
That is just a 5-8 range thing, you will get more easilly into 15s than 5s.
if oyu cant get into 8s
brothers is it worth doing the fyr'alath quest?? i just got it from the raid.
For the transmog, sure
do you want the mog? if not no
I presume the mats are super cheap too
got the mog already
3k io, so not bad at all
5-9, well likely 5-15 area is filled with the 'I think X, Y or Z (or all) is needed to complete a key' playerbase
get above it, for quick invites
yeah its just weird, i invite whatever dps i think is cool to lower keys. i dont mind someone under performing as long as the tank is decent we can easily time it
The casual playerbase is indoctorinated that meta matters, or whatever rule some youtuber/influncer has sprouted
then, after the rule is set, and cemented. It is now law, that even the influencer cant convince anyone to break.
As that is just how it is.
meanwhile the meta is often garbage in lower keys
Usually so frikkin' bad
"i invited a fire mage to my +7 and he did 150k dps!!!!"
Meanwhile, just invite 3 fury warriors, see key deleted since season 1.
yeah because trash is dead before his 2nd pyroblast finishes casting
(yes i know most pyroblasts are instant casts)
this shit is maybe the most true thing ever spoken by any human being
Is fury stronger than arms in m+ now since the latest patch?
like people would ONLY run the meta comp in season 2 from my experience
for like fucking +6s
its all augmentations fault
remove that garbage class already
arcane intellect + augmentation is already locked
then the third is usually another caster
Arcane is def not locked
if youre playing augmentation youre most probably bringing a mage with it
Mage is not tied to aug
They can be op without it, if both are good both find themselves in the same grp
setting aside outliers that one class might be doing 20-30% more damage than others, lets imagine theyre all on the same level
why wouldnt you slot in a mage 100% of the time if its buffing your aug and your aug is buffing the rest of the group
i still dont know how mage is usually on top
Pure dps specs tend to get decent tuning
- class tree is strong and the class is very very tanky
prot is basically a DPS, so we get decent tuning too
i think at this point, just make every class perform the same, or atleast close to the same
Cant cuz they all do different things
^This is the reason I dont want them to perform the same
damage profiles play a huge role in m+ too
but at the same time, this only matters for less than 1% of the playerbase
like boomkins in s1-2 shadowlands had the biggest damage potential but they were aweful in keys because of their 3 min cds
and didnt line up with the dungeons at all mostly
ah yeah, convoke was huge
did we even keep much of anything from SL that we still use?
Do you balance for sustained aoe, burst, st, cleave
How do you balance around longer or shorter cds
Do you balance around utility and raid comps
Spear / conduits
are we running spear in tww?
the ST build does
shit
hopefully the aoe for it, is a little bigger
so we can stand in it and move a little
i miss using spear ontop of sang
Because they 5% to Aug becomes like 1% for the rest of your team
If there’s a better class than mage it’s very replaceable
we dont need to stand inside the aoe now
Like sl destro
thats the third slot
we didnt have aug back then
and survival season 4 was an otulier
stating all classes are on a similar ground
you will always bring a mage and aug
my point is
aug is a fucking cancer
and should be removed
i fucking hate that class
Aug is only mandatory in top level keys
They were a dps loss to take in s3
It just lets you live another key level
thats what im talking about im not refering to an 8 or something
and even though the keys dont really need having an aug
if youre trying to pug 16+
even the aug mains dont like playing it
they will look for one
I’m talking about cutting edge keys-1
even if its completely doable without one, they will not run their key on lfg without an aug
but it bleeds into lfg
Augs just makes keys have more room for error
the community perception about needing one is already there
The dumbest part about Aug is that it brings too much survival
But that survivability buff isn’t affected by arcane int anyways
i just find it funny, people show their overall dps and act like they did alot of damage with an aug in group lol
AuG is perfect for lowkeys, as Fury burst kills everything - and aug doesnt steal any of that yummy yum pad
yeah in low keys, when the tank pulls small, i blow all my cds and detroy everything in like 5 seconds and you kinda just see them look all confused lol
in low keys if you play fury youre tanking
At the same ilvl point? Only if the tank is bad 
yeah that and you see all the frost dks getting mad, i ran a BH 9 (for fun) yesterday and the frost dk got targeted on the first boss for the AOE, and he didnt want to move. after the kill i asked him why he didnt move and this guy told me "because i wanted to do more dps, why didnt you move" i said bro why would 4 people move for your mechanic, just because you wanted to do a little more dps
that was a key i did like 200k more overall than him, i think he was just salty
what about nelth +16 tho
We do not talk of that key
Could anyone point me in the direction of a good Fury warrior PVP/PVE guide?
wowhead/icyveins
Are they a good resource for class guides in general?
yes
Okay got it, thanks chief
LMAO THAT GUY WAS IN MY GUILD
he left after we told him at the start of S4 that main raiders would get gear first and he thought that he was doing us a favor by being in the raid while he was bottom dps
I guess he didn't pay his sub for it for the month
this is so funny I actually laughed irl
the funnier part is that he asked hours before if he could come to raid and me as well as 2 other people told him he wouldn't get loot because of the above reason
guy came and surprised pikachu'd the second he was forced to give up loot
Is this recent?
Who gives a shit about gear in Mickey mouse tier
that was in the guild that wanted to come raid
So a social
Are you hacking
if by hacking you mean smoking a joint and drinking an energy drink during raid then yes
I bet he uses hekili
wouldn't doubt it
Mountain thane energy
he's like the stereotypical warrior persona
There’s no downsides
but with loot we give the trials anything they want since at this point it would be weird if anyone in our main raid actually needed something
Shroud uses hekili
esp in micky mouse szn
Also if anything I would be grateful to do raid even if no loot on first week
Couple more vault slots don’t hurt
Get some parses to apply to guilds
yeah if he was trialing I could see that angle
The alternative is not even getting vault slots
Yes very true lol
loot councils are the biggest bullshit i have to tolerate on this game
Both CE guilds I’ve trialed for gave me loot
The non CE guilds I was in while working my way up to CE
Did not
loot goblins dropping BIS on every piece of loot that drops
I agree!
I've only been with one guild in my time taking the game seriously so loot council isn't that bad since I'm usually one of the prio's but I could imagine it being frustrating if loot council doesn't award based on performance
Problem with performance is that it creates a snowball effect
not even that, like my biggest issue is that i enjoy the game i do the content i mostly gear a lot outside of raid
so then a raid item is a 1-2% for me
but a 8% for the muppet that only raid logged
My guild is trying to make sure raid loggers aren't in main prog team
if things goes expected people are doing wht they can to make sure they're geared and up to date
Solution: your guild rolls off every piece bc you’ll (hopefully) eventually get it and if not oh well
Loot council isn’t that simple tbf they have a hard job
my only worry is trinkets but its looking like our trinkets are gonna be both from M+ so I can grind it without having to argue my case
You have to prio the good performers but also make sure loot is going to the biggest raid increase at the same time
I'm also a lot more comfortable on warrior than I was at the start of my mythic raiding journey so I've gotten to the point of not really caring as long as I get my tier
I've always seem healers and tanks get priority then dps in guilds I've raided with
this is crazy
i would argue thats only the case when youre pushing CE before the patented blizzard nerfs a month after RWF happens
Yeah that’s completely backwards
Tanks is last in most guilds
if youre getting CE around 1.5k ishh just make it personal loot and let them handle it themselves imo
Good loot council is tolerable
To be fair, when our tier is worth what, 1.5-2% dps, granting it to the tank makes sense >:)
ive only had that one time happen in the 20 years ive been playing wow
all the rest have been insufferable bastards
Dps up to run df s4 gear
Loot council always gets corrupted eventually
Also peoples reliability/attendance plays a roll too. I don’t envy loot council people at all. I like to just show up to raid and game with the boys
Im also baised as ive had 4P week 1 every season of df

and it was the time i raided on a top 500 guild because i honestly was happy for the people that was getting loot, like they were pumping hard. All the other times you see key items go to the floor inspectors or the officers getting normal tier then upgrading to heroic tier or some bs like that
(s1 and s2 as mage...)
same lmao
And in wawi i assume the streak ends
But you never know
Idk if our other war stays brown man
If the 4 piece set still is weird I won't even try to get 4set s1
idk if I can abandon the brown streak, remix made every class have fury apm, and I realized that's the only part of the gameplay I enjoy
at least in week 1
Raid team leadership prioritizes themselves with loot as much as they can get away with it’s only natural for them to do that, they don’t know if the raider whos been around for 4 months is going to stay long term where as they themselves will be the whole time
4 months is a long enough to warrant loot maybe 4-6 weeks would have been a better example
well thats one way to lock your group out of mythic, especially in a more casual raiding guild
I mean it's 2%
So
yeah i see your point and theres some truth to it, but to hold a group you have to play as one
its hard, if only mythic could be done as a 10 man
keeping 20 people happy is hard af
Yeah that used to happen to my guild a lot when we were near the top. Giving new applicants gear too early just incentivized them to use that experience and gear as a platform to jump off to the 'b' team of a higher ranked guild
I guess an example in my case would be RL & a officer in my guild can also equip 2h weapons so almost guaranteed I won’t be seeing a 2h from raid for a while
It makes sense for them to do that though because this will be the first progression tier I’m with them. It’s a new team for me I found in s4 DF
I think we just go by % gains as we assume equal skill
but how do you handle raid loggers and people gearing out of raid
Our raiders enjoy prog
do you handicap yourself and go in without gear you acquired on your own?
They wanna gear up
I don’t think raid loggers should get prio loot whatsoever personally
So it's not like some are slacking
We just roll every piece off trials included, sometimes with rules the entire raid team agrees upon before the tier with special items
If you don’t show interest in the game outside of raid you don’t need the best gear until after the people who want to also** do M+
But that’s just my opinion
Among many
kill xan
Ayo
Man I tried this with rare trinkets and people blew the fuck up
personally i would go for personal loot on my case (were a 1k-1.5k ishh guild), if doing loot council just roll a bis list and try to distribute loot to everyone
New wow short is cooking
though it would recquire an excel sheet and it would be annoying af
but you wouldnt feel cheated at least
That just kinda doesn’t fly with us we are a pretty tight knit guild with low turnover.. been with these guys whether raiding or irl preventing me from raiding since nyalotha
We use sims from the day of raid
I’d like loot to go to the biggest sim upgrade if I could choose
So we see gear and % gains
That’s how the top end does it
And then we have very smart frogs that talk about it openly and if in doubt we ask the ppl affected
so no % increase just biggest ST sim?
Our rl for example gave him fyrakk mount away 
Or the first m ashkandur i passed to the other warrior as i had lego at 496 he didnt
Yes because more times than not the person who needs the ilvl the most will also have the highest sim gain
Not always but usually
Wholesome rework juggernaut duck man 
i hadnt thought of that one
Trinkets are tough though
thats actually a good way over % gain
Those are season long items
Ive never been in a guild where i do not vibe with the other warrior man

Actually same
I’m haven’t had another dps warrior to raid with since CN
Thought in TWW I do! I’m excited
Our other is a bit newer to brown so i elp if needed
I was super dogshit at the game until a brown brother I raided with helped me learn how to go about improving
still dogshit but slightly less
same, our other warrior rerolled in s3. sad times
I learned from pilav 
rest in rip
So both our brown brother teachers have quit the game 
I ran into him start s2
Asked him to finish sl dungeon guides
we did have a trial for like 2 raids i didn't vibe with, he didn't know who gromnak was. thought that was required to play brown man
He laughed 
Was about to say..
he stopped damage
It is
When I was in a guild with @rotund ginkgo bro switched on turbo yap mode
good thing he failed the trial, can't have that type of shit in guild
We were showing how all warriors are braindead
RL asks how his logs look and you shit on him 
🥾
Elp others instead of tearing em down
Actually yeah
No I will tear them dow ist
99% of the time i have seen poor performance of someone in raid its about cooldown usage and dealing with mechanics optimally to keep uptime on the target
That’s why you need lorrgs
Basically
builder finisher for most classes its hard to go play it incorrectly
people just mess up their cds
or they go soak like 10 seconds before the hit happens or some shit like that
yep, first week in Amirdrassil and I was seeing another fury war doing 80k more than me on Tindral
Only heroic obvs
tiny brained me couldn't fathom the idea of saving CD's for 8 seconds to burn roots in .5 seconds flat
Surely
I got r1 bossdam on that last time i did it, dont think it's still r1
First 2 weeks lmaoooo
on s1 i was always jelous of assassination rogues cause we did the same dps at the end but mine was 50% pad and theirs were all boss damage 
they were super strong back then
you were never ethical
truly the most ethical
