fury

[latent hedge]

The OP did it as a test

[upbeat sentinel]

Yes he did

That doesn’t make it any better that there is effectively no appeal system

[clever path]

"It generally only takes one" hmm

[dense elbow]

I miss Archi

[clever path]

Think that's names tho

[upbeat sentinel]

1 report is crazy

[latent hedge]

Can you link the thread with the context on to what the report was over?

[clever path]

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/how-many-reports-does-it-take/1545198

I think it is name, google put me at the statement from support but eh

[upbeat sentinel]

The automated system takes one report to fuck your name

[latent hedge]

Ah; this was about name violation

Would run under different rule sets.

[clever path]

Did say

[upbeat sentinel]

You were right. It wasn’t close to 10

[latent hedge]

You're right, I should've known we were talking about names and not the functionality of the game

myb

i'll see myself out

[clever path]

There is also a reddit post that states it only takes 5 players to report to get you flagged

[upbeat sentinel]

5 is almost certainly the #. There is no way my earlier comment soaked like 20 reports

If it required 20 I could hit racial slurs in trade during downtime because there wouldn’t be enough reports

[clever path]

We will never know, just don't break tos and be nice ingame and you won't be banned (Unlike the time I said to kill boss and kill adds)

[upbeat sentinel]

You were a bad boy for saying that

[clever path]

Over christmas too 😦 I was unbanned when they came back in office

[upbeat sentinel]

Not like the appeals aren’t automated too

Them being in office does nothing lmao

[clever path]

Well i did have a proper response

And was unbanned

[upbeat sentinel]

Fair then. I didn’t get one for my appeal 😦

And this dude got bussed and told that his shit wouldn’t be reviewed anymore after automated responses lmao

[clever path]

I just put tickets through purchase failure and it's generally a human

[upbeat sentinel]

Oh you abuse it

I put the actual reason zzzz

[clever path]

Only way to get real response

Well not only

There is a whole theory based on what you write in the ticket, so much speculation

[silk wharf]

let me just delete that as you've already gone over names.

[upbeat sentinel]

The start of the convo is a dude getting mass reported for non-participation/botting when he was participating as part of a test of the system

He was not only banned but all of his appeals were replied to by bots before he was told his appeals would no longer be reviewed

[silk wharf]

I see, I see

[upbeat sentinel]

That’s an absurd system

[silk wharf]

i know that forever ago, when kicking people from lfg was a problem. Certain peoples votes had a higher weight when initiating a vote kick

it could be the same with reports.

but I guess thats not really what you said lol

[upbeat sentinel]

The only weighting in LFG AFAIK is that if you’re a 3 man premade you need the fourth person’s vote to kick the fifth

[silk wharf]

Seems like an unfortunate reality for a temp ban. it is only temp though right

[coarse nest]

Imagine you loot a rare sought after crafting pattern and then mass report the next guy who loots it to keep your hold on the market

“That’s never happened before”

[upbeat sentinel]

Imagine at the start of TWW that I get the engi mount then mass report anyone else that advertises they have it

[coarse nest]

Lariat

In no way shape or form should a perma ban ever be fulfilled by an automated system

It’s actual trash that blizzard has this

[silk wharf]

Forever ago. When groups would vote kick randos and send them back into queue, iirc, they put in a system that would weight votekicks (i dont think it exists anymore) that basically would make someone who abuses the kick system unable to initiate a kick but someone who never kicks would be able to on the first try.

[upbeat sentinel]

Oh ya there were timers

I remember that

[upbeat sentinel]

And if it is, then the appeals system SHOULD NOT ALSO BE AUTOMATED

[silk wharf]

im sure there are just too many appeals to individually respond to each one.

obviously for a perma. man I should really read before i type

[upbeat sentinel]

I don’t think that weighting system exists anymore but also LFG content hasn’t been hard enough to justify the need for lots of kicks for a long time

[bitter palm]

i will never understand why is that punishable

[silk wharf]

yea, that was back when the lfg system had relevant rewards as drops.

[bitter palm]

trashtalking is a part of the game

[upbeat sentinel]

Cata launch LFG heroics 💀

[latent hedge]

not my game or rules so i didn't really care

[silk wharf]

because you "signed" the social contract

[upbeat sentinel]

I responded to

The wrong comment

I’m not fixing it

[silk wharf]

I figured lol

[clever path]

Because shit is a bad word

❄️

[bitter palm]

its so dumb

[clever path]

League of legends left the chat

[latent hedge]

Overwatch seems to be the most oppressive against its playerbase with that type of stuff

[bitter palm]

werent people getting banned for saying ez

[latent hedge]

Something along those lines, but it wouldn't even be trash talk

like I think the recent blow up was because some dude typed "fuck"

and it wasn't used as a insult

[clever path]

Being banned for saying ez is stupid but openly calling people shit in pvp is deemed harassment and bullying

[bitter palm]

thats the fun part but to each their own i guess

[latent hedge]

https://x.com/BlizzardCS/status/1779566387226108087

Blizzard CS - The Americas (@BlizzardCS) on X

@AlliSinned No, the filter is for those who wish to use it, but profanity has never been allowed in our games. If reported, absolutely actionable. ^PJ

Twitter · Apr 14, 2024, 5:44 PM

Here that's thread

[clever path]

I mean I agree some trash talk should be allowed as people get heated, if you don’t spam it all good in my eyes but it’s still inappropriate language and does not matter how much you say it it’s still bannable

Use a different word 🧠

[dense elbow]

2 hours, still going, I am slightly impressed

[clever path]

But openly calling someone shit is not trash talk

[deep hare]

@oblique trail hi

[brittle phoenix]

@deep hare hi

[deep hare]

@brittle phoenix hi

[oblique trail]

@deep hare hi

[coarse nest]

@oblique trail hi

[deep hare]

are you excited for warrior in the war within benzai

[oblique trail]

sure (idk how it even plays)

[bitter palm]

@deep hare hi

[covert blaze]

omg banezi is alive

[deep hare]

everybody is alive when i ping them

its a badge of honor

[covert blaze]

ya benzai what is up these days you are changing your display picture every hour ???

[deep hare]

hi

[bitter palm]

where is pauck1510

[deep hare]

@clever path hi

[bitter palm]

@clever path hi

[coarse nest]

@clever path hi

[oblique trail]

👋

busy playing FF/irl

[clever path]

hi

[deep hare]

is FF poppin rn

[covert blaze]

@oblique trail bee my honey

[oblique trail]

new expac over a month ago

[deep hare]

thats pretty pog

[oblique trail]

b my queen

[clever path]

what do you guys think is better unhinged or hurricane? im talking about m+ cuz i have the feeling with the current tierset unhinged might be better i am not going to lie

oh this is fury chat

[coarse nest]

Unhinged

[covert blaze]

mad ox is playing FF too

you guys should game together

[deep hare]

@bitter palm how do you get that funny little green guy near your name

[covert blaze]

oh wait youre EU i forgor

[oblique trail]

Iirc you can play with anyone in FF

Have not tried tho

[bitter palm]

it was given to me

[deep hare]

thats cool he seems like a nice guy

im going to contribute to the apl (make it actively worse) so i can get my own green guy 👍

[coarse nest]

Server profile can’t add custom emoji

[bitter palm]

good plan 👍

[clever belfry]

irl mega cringe
loser

[oblique trail]

I am a loser

You are correct in your assessment

[clever belfry]

Takes one to know one buddy

[red burrow]

Fury ST rotation is confusing me. The rage building up is so fast I'm unsure of priority. Once I reckless Rava I am unsure if I still prio raging blow, and also unsure how to fit in all cd's so quickly in the window while not overcapping rage constantly.

[clever belfry]

you will overcap rage

[red burrow]

Do I just pop all cd's immediately and not care about Rampage until all cd's are unloaded? DO I still prio raging blow? This is what I'm not understanding.

[covert blaze]

are you playing RA

[red burrow]

Yes

[covert blaze]

spending RA spells is higher prio than rampage

[red burrow]

Okay. So always use it then. But what about our cd's?

[covert blaze]

you want to go into cds enraged

if you are playing OF+TR, avatar and OF enrages you

if not, you want to make sure you rampage before CDS

you also want to make sure your Rav is hitting bbs instead of bts

[covert blaze]

this is good on either build tho

[coarse nest]

Best part about fury is you can completely ignore the rage bar

Use cooldowns, rampage to get empowered Bloodthirst and raging blow, cast those, repeat

Winning

[red burrow]

That just doesn't feel right. Every part of my being wants me to press that rampage. Feels wrong to have it such a low priority.

I hope rage generation gets better balanced so the rotation becomes smoother than that.

[coarse nest]

It’s smooth not having to think about rage imo

Imagine not having enough rage like arms during execute

Now that’s dogshit

You want to avoid being in the situation where you have no raging blow charges, no blood thirst, and no rage

It happens now and then but it feels bad

Casting slam is yikes

I’d never advocate for more slam casting personally

[young swan]

its not really rage generation thats the issue, CB and BB just occupy a more important role in the rotation while active than rampage does. Nerfing rage gen would just nerf the rate at which they come out, while making AM (and the rest of the spec pre-RA) feel significantly worse

like, yeah, its a "problem" but the problem is more with the way that RA works than with the rage gen

[covert blaze]

[young swan]

ramp isnt even "low" prio

its still top 3 rotationally

its just below the things that you use it to enable

wouldnt make much sense if you used ramp to proc these abilities and then ignored them in favor of pressing ramp again

[gusty cloak]

RB prio over rampage?

[crisp prism]

basically you rampage you get crushing blow and bloodbath

and cycle

[gusty cloak]

gotcha, ez enough

looking to main fury in tww, trying to get prio and rotation down

[covert blaze]

s3 double ramp moment

[modern leaf]

are we gonna be able to farm rio upcoming id or is it over?

[rugged blaze]

Hey guys! New fury warrior here. I'm trying to understand my rotation better.

What is my "spam" ability on retail? Raging Blow or Bloodthirst?

I'm unsure if I should wait for Bloodbath to have a high crit chance or just drop it

[serene vessel]

Fellas if I liked s2 fury and hated s3 fury will I hate tww fury

[covert blaze]

why do you hate s3

RA gives you both 1 cb and 1 bb now

[serene vessel]

I do not enjoy boring static rotations

[covert blaze]

i wouldn't call this version of RA static

[serene vessel]

I like lots of procs and fast paced

[covert blaze]

s2/s4 is more static

than tww

[crisp prism]

i hated s3 too but ra rework is good

s3 problem was only 1 ability and that passive ability

[covert blaze]

@serene vessel in terms of fun for me, tww>s3>s2

[serene vessel]

Ima be honest of you liked s3 fury than I think we have different reasons we enjoy fury

[young swan]

its a healthy mix of both

[young swan]

you'll like thane

arguably slayer too, but thane plays more into the "fast proccy" playstyle

[serene vessel]

Thane is likr 30% behind slayer rn though, right?

[young swan]

in pure ST, something like that sounds right

[crisp prism]

i think with current ra rework without annihilator both builds kinda play the same

[young swan]

i havent seen any comparisons for slayer w/ aoe profile on ST vs thane aoe profile on ST yet tho

[crisp prism]

you just dont press reck as often

[young swan]

^

[serene vessel]

Thane good for m+?

[young swan]

prob will be, yeah

[covert blaze]

yeah

[young swan]

cause it has actually defensive value and good sustained aoe dps

[brittle phoenix]

I hated S3 as well but i like TWW fury

RA isn't bad now

[serene vessel]

I also hate bladestorm which is another reason I don't want slayer

[young swan]

RA was never bad

[eternal sundial]

S3 fury was fine

[crisp prism]

ra wasnt the real issue

[eternal sundial]

and felt insane on stuff like smold

[crisp prism]

annihilator was

[brittle phoenix]

Well

Sure

[crisp prism]

and its gone

[brittle phoenix]

The rotation itself is more what i'm talking about

[eternal sundial]

i dont see how anni was an issue

have WFT and ur chillin

[brittle phoenix]

Ramp > BB > Ramp on repeat wasn't very fun to me

[brittle phoenix]

W Prodigius

[eternal sundial]

nor was ramp rb ramp rb

both is mindnumbing so i didnt find either aggressively bad or good

[young swan]

its the exact same as rb > ramp> rb

its just bias

[eternal sundial]

ramp ramp is evil

btw

[covert blaze]

garradan n°1 zhai hater

[brittle phoenix]

With onslaught and execute thrown it it was much less mind numbing

[eternal sundial]

cb>exe xdding

[serene vessel]

Fellow bladestorm hater

[young swan]

[eternal sundial]

bro s1 fury prerework

is the MOST demon shit

[covert blaze]

n°2 maybe, xeos exists

[young swan]

bladestorm cranks

[eternal sundial]

that should rot in hell

[brittle phoenix]

Real

[young swan]

I didnt mind s1 fury

[brittle phoenix]

That's the one time i swapped to arms lmao

[young swan]

very consistent damage

[eternal sundial]

nAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH

CB at 130 rage

[brittle phoenix]

xDD

[eternal sundial]

NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[young swan]

u do the same shit now

[serene vessel]

Ya man I love stunning myself

Cool skill

[young swan]

stun btw

[brittle phoenix]

It's short af on fury

[eternal sundial]

but its 1 cb not two

[young swan]

[eternal sundial]

[brittle phoenix]

And you can move

And kick

I don't see the issue

[serene vessel]

Oh cool can I press all my buttons?

[brittle phoenix]

Demolish is the real stun

[young swan]

3s channel where u can move, kick, stun and ur casting 4 bts

yeah guys

its a stun

he hit me with a stun

yeah guys

[covert blaze]

love when people say cb ramp cb ramp is better than bb ramp bb ramp

[young swan]

he cannot do that

[eternal sundial]

ramp cb cb ramp yippiiiiiiii

[crisp prism]

tbh i liked necro ra fury on shadowlands

[eternal sundial]

SL deathmaker s3 tier fury

also dogshit iteration

vile evil and satanic

[young swan]

literally the worst iteration of fury ever

in modern wow

[brittle phoenix]

Remember the mini charge on CB guys

[eternal sundial]

necro couldnt save its gameplay

[eternal sundial]

ye thats s3 tier

[brittle phoenix]

Very cool

[eternal sundial]

but its also prio over evrything

and FULL RNG

[serene vessel]

Bladestorm copers pretending that pressing a skill that literally prevents you from casting abilities and makes your dps rotation equivalent to taking your hands off the keyboard isn't a stun

[eternal sundial]

deathmaker any%

[young swan]

just proc all ur procs at the same time or u do 25% less dam than the fury warrior who did proc it all at once

[crisp prism]

ngl that was so good on arena

[young swan]

it literally casts 4 bts over 3s

[crisp prism]

but that thing killed me so much during halondrus progress

[young swan]

the ability is fucking insane

[eternal sundial]

charge cb on skolex tilted me a bit

slightly

[serene vessel]

Cool I don't care. A bot could play my class too but i enjoy actually pressing my abilities

[young swan]

ur pressing bs

[eternal sundial]

:xoes

[young swan]

and ur getting rewarded for it

and it cleaves

[eternal sundial]

fy fan

[young swan]

and does big dam

also better get used to it, cause thane plays BS in aoe too

[serene vessel]

And it stuns me

[crisp prism]

im really glad i didnt finish sepulcher that tier if i progressed jailer with that charge i would probably go insane

[young swan]

not stunned

u can interact with the game

[eternal sundial]

progging jailer with spear root rng

[sullen dove]

Pressing rampage stuns you for 1 global because you can’t press another button

[eternal sundial]

triangle WA

[sullen dove]

dogshit fucking game

[eternal sundial]

all of the fun

in one boss

[serene vessel]

My interaction is legit being able to kick and move lol

[eternal sundial]

charge is also full cc

u cant undo the movement

[young swan]

and stun

[eternal sundial]

ur just stuck in it

[sullen dove]

Yea we not talking enough about charge stunning you

[eternal sundial]

oh theres a swirly??

no counterplay

ur dead

[sullen dove]

i expect to blink under boss instantaneously

[eternal sundial]

shouldve seen into the future

[sullen dove]

when I hit that button

[serene vessel]

Skill issue

[sullen dove]

To immediately get into the action

[sour frigate]

Did someone say deathmaker?

[eternal sundial]

(i am making fun of ur take)

wait !!!

[sullen dove]

[eternal sundial]

what if you BS the BS stun

cuz ur cc immune ontop

[young swan]

omg

[eternal sundial]

like u can BS sooo much shit in keys

remove roots

[sullen dove]

Re equip signet

[eternal sundial]

prevent debuff applic

[crisp prism]

i remember tunnel vision sl s2 venthyr fury too

[eternal sundial]

its SIICK

[sullen dove]

go back to shadowlands

[eternal sundial]

kyrian S2 dragon roar siege breaker

frost set

fullcrit with faulty countermeasure

[sullen dove]

faulty deez

[serene vessel]

Yes I know but ur wrong. Skills that remove skill expression are bad

[sour frigate]

i had a 50% crit fury s2...

it was shit

[eternal sundial]

bs has it to a degree

when not used to for dam

[sullen dove]

can’t get over bro complaining about not hitting a button for 2 seconds every 90 seconds

actually insane

[eternal sundial]

@serene vesseldo you like fyralath

unrelated

or better

[young swan]

press ww before BS or ur do no fuck dam

theres ur skill expression

[eternal sundial]

do u like grieftorch

i rlly like torch

[sullen dove]

also cast a rampage to make one of the bts bb

[eternal sundial]

but kinda meh on lego

[sullen dove]

need to set up the perfect bs with 2 buttons

[summer quail]

torch after they made it so you can move with it owns so hard

[graceful ruin]

pressing BS and spinning for 3 seconds removes skill expression is some level of insane take that I've never seen before lol

[sullen dove]

I still don’t move when I use it cuz I just forget

[summer quail]

not for warrior, but just in general. very fun trinket

[sullen dove]

On hunter

[serene vessel]

I didn't play fury because I don't like channeled abilities on melee

[sour frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/dance-the-monkey-garen-lo-l-league-of-legends-gif-16600042

[sullen dove]

I’m like “oh shit swirly under me guess I’ll get hit” playing my hunter

[crisp prism]

kinda off topic but i miss legion trinkets

[young swan]

yeah.. me too kid

[sullen dove]

Rampage channeled ability why is it multiple hits just hit once

[covert blaze]

perish

[gusty cloak]

hows tww fury key detail breakdown looking like

[sullen dove]

many spin

[crisp prism]

spin

[serene vessel]

It's really not. I enjoy having full control of my character. Not having control leads you to not being able to perform in the best content wow has to offer. M+

[young swan]

big ramp, big BS

[graceful ruin]

tbh gcd removes skill expression cause I can't cast shit during it

[covert blaze]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/848490155140710411/1237677298145296424/bladestorm.gif

[sour frigate]

^ giga this

[eternal sundial]

what did u play

[crisp prism]

xan are we playing ra for dungeons on beta currently ?

[eternal sundial]

in the end

[eternal sundial]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1271809677264683080/critcake-warrior.gif

[crisp prism]

when i stop playing beta it was kinda preference thing

[young swan]

except that currently BS is literally propping fury up

[eternal sundial]

CRITCAK BLADESTORM

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1271809677264683080/critcake-warrior.gif

[brittle phoenix]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1271809677264683080/critcake-warrior.gif

[young swan]

I think you can justify both

[sullen dove]

bro could NOT handle playing a caster

wasting time in channels

[graceful ruin]

fr

[sullen dove]

(yet somehow they do more dmg than us)

[serene vessel]

Well yeah, I don't care about numbers if the class isn't fun to play tho

[graceful ruin]

God this glacial spike cast is such a waste I can't cast during it

[covert blaze]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1271809677264683080/critcake-warrior.gif

[sullen dove]

(even when not playing the game)

[young swan]

have u actually tried it

on beta?

[eternal sundial]

(you can move during at least)

[serene vessel]

There's a reason I only play fire mage

[serene vessel]

No I don't have beta acess

[eternal sundial]

man FUCK THIS DOGSHIT HARD PYRO FOR SKB

[crisp prism]

i guess depending on the key level then cuz if stuff dying too fast i cant really spend enough rage to make am worth

[young swan]

then stop with the rhetoric lmfao

[eternal sundial]

hard pyro in combust

[serene vessel]

If u ain't icy floes what's wrong with u

[eternal sundial]

😡

[young swan]

shit hits diff when u get to play slayer

[eternal sundial]

i CANT CAST DURING IT

I AM STUNNNNEDDDDDD

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[graceful ruin]

you can move during BS without icy floes bro

[brittle phoenix]

Real

[crisp prism]

did you mean spins ?

[sullen dove]

HE USED A STUN GUUUYS

[brittle phoenix]

Slayer owns

[serene vessel]

Good news ur already casting

[sullen dove]

LOOOOK LOOOK GUYS

[young swan]

yar

[summer quail]

RA extra st/prio is very nice, even if AM gets you slightly more overrall

[crisp prism]

https://tenor.com/view/spin-record-cat-gif-21749933

[covert blaze]

don't tell yuski what demolish is or he will implode irl

[eternal sundial]

you also "cast" bs

[eternal sundial]

[brittle phoenix]

Tactical self stun

[serene vessel]

I can't stress enough how little of shits i care about how a class performs if it doesn't feel good

[crisp prism]

tbh it feels like i'm playing legion ish fury

[serene vessel]

Melee shouldn't have cast times, fight me on this

[crisp prism]

on beta

[sullen dove]

idk in what world your character spinning for 3 seconds doing 20% of your dmg in aoe doesn’t feel good

actually nuts

[eternal sundial]

i think its fine if used sparingly

[crisp prism]

idk what that means to you

[sour frigate]

ww monk incident

[eternal sundial]

bs is fine

demo eh

lego meh / torch ye

[young swan]

its more like you can swap between RA and AM depending on what your group needs. More st? play RA. More Aoe? play AM. overall breakdown is relatively the same for both, it just shifts your prio damage to more aoe

[serene vessel]

Because again a skill doing good damage doesn't suddenly make it fun

I turn damage numbers off, they're irrelevant bloat

[young swan]

yeah it feels good as fuck to press 1 button and get the same value out of it that you would get out of pressing like 12 buttons otherwise

[crisp prism]

i mean it felt bad when your skill does nothing too

[sullen dove]

Then just play ravager

If damage numbers don’t matter

[crisp prism]

pre buff odyns fury legit didnt feel good to press

[summer quail]

have you tried fury on beta? the bladestorm is super short

[sour frigate]

^ basically me rolling from ww to fury in prepach

[eternal sundial]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/148898720803586048/1155181949372080168/gifntext-gif.gif

[serene vessel]

Don't have beta access

[sullen dove]

fridgebedgeawakegegavelge

[crisp prism]

isnt live basically same atm

[sour frigate]

bs is already fast if u have atleast 30 haste

[covert blaze]

I'm so glad we get another 2h strength weapon with a special effect. It's been so long since we've got weapons such as Ashkandur, Fall of the Brootherhood, Gavel of the First Arbiter or Jaithys the Prison Blade

pre s3 roidstack pasta

[summer quail]

ye basically, does more damage on beta but that's about it and applies a debuff

[sour frigate]

Jaithys actually huge

[sullen dove]

Druid in my guild was quite upset s3 leggo wasn’t for druids

Emerald dream patch

Lol

[serene vessel]

A skill doing more damage than a different one is really irrelevant, as long as your class itself does good numbers

[crisp prism]

tbh i think game needs more special effect stuff for every class

they are fun

[graceful ruin]

that is so untrue lmao

[serene vessel]

If the class itself doesn't do good numbers it needs help

[brittle phoenix]

Idk i hope we never get a 2h leggo again

[serene vessel]

Ok I'm obviously talking anout from my perspective. I'm glad you enjoy seeing big damage numbers, I don't care about them

[crisp prism]

i mean when i press a big cd i want to see some numbers

if it tickles it just feels underwhelming

[covert blaze]

wild take

bursty spells bursting feels good idk

[crisp prism]

i mean if they can think a better way to get it

[graceful ruin]

its not just about big numbers if my OP does more dmg than my MS on arms that feels awful lmao

[crisp prism]

i'm not really against it

[serene vessel]

So do you not like arms because a lot of their dps is bleed?

[graceful ruin]

who's gonna tell bro about MS

[covert blaze]

I don't like arms for different reasons, but on any spec in gerenal i for sure like pressing a cd and feeling stuff dying faster

[serene vessel]

Also again, this is literally your perspective. I'm not out here talking about how you feel lmao

[crisp prism]

i mean if cd is ineffective what is the point of the cd

just remove every cd from the game then and make every class 3 button

probably easier to balance too

[covert blaze]

ok so tww ret

[crisp prism]

[covert blaze]

litearlly no cd

[graceful ruin]

don't know if u go that anymore

[sour frigate]

so every addon ret

[serene vessel]

I feel like we've strayed from the point here. I want all cds to do more damage, that's the point of a cd. But a cd doing big dam isn't a deciding factor of it being fun to me

[crisp prism]

i mean i kinda get what you saying just look at dh tbh

on beta

its extremely unfun to play but deals massive damage

[buoyant elm]

So like trueshot for hunters

[eternal sundial]

cds dont have to be every 1.5 mins explode for 1 mil raw damage

stuff like reck/combust is more fun

df just killed reck off as a CD with its 95% uptime bs

[buoyant elm]

Yeah I agree, stuff like reck/combust/bl is more fun then 'big number button'

[crisp prism]

tbh without reck spec really felt doing nothing on df

[eternal sundial]

df overall id call a design L for fury

[crisp prism]

tbh i'm still mad that i have to spend a talent point for intervane

[eternal sundial]

SL solid pre S3 but dog awful after

[tired violet]

i feel like df in general was just an L

[serene vessel]

Yes this is exactly my point. Bladestorm is the literal opposite to me. It's a CD you press and then can take your hands off the keyboard

[covert blaze]

for what? use sb?

[sour frigate]

[eternal sundial]

holy gigachad utility rejecter

[serene vessel]

It could legit kill the fucking boss and I wouldn't care

[half cargo]

Ngl, I felt SL fury was stale and very similar to bfa

[eternal sundial]

fury doesnt need avatar

[covert blaze]

stormbolt instead of intervene fk you mean

[eternal sundial]

i didnt play BFA so ye

[half cargo]

At least in df we got ra/of, am/os, annihilator

[eternal sundial]

dash vs cringe utility

no choice

[half cargo]

Kept things somewhat fresh

[covert blaze]

intervene is both xdd

[crisp prism]

annihilator made me almost quit the game

lol

[serene vessel]

Annihilator literally made me swap fire mage

[covert blaze]

anni was fine, but maybe i'm used to that cause i played a lot of dh over the years

[pure flint]

Why not take both?

[serene vessel]

I mean as someone that also played dh, demon bite was literally never good though. You already were gcd capped without pressing demon bite

If things make me press less gcds I dont want it

[covert blaze]

you played demon's bite in bfa

and the spec was perma 0.75 gcd in nyalotha

[crisp prism]

nyalotha dh was playing with machine gun haste

[serene vessel]

Oh I didn't play bfa lmao

[crisp prism]

i dont think this is a good comparison

[serene vessel]

The one xpac I didn't play

[crisp prism]

what was that azerite talent

[covert blaze]

oof

[crisp prism]

eye beam 30% haste

stacked 3 times

[serene vessel]

I like to pretend that xpac didn't exist

[covert blaze]

fair

i feel like that towards SL

[crisp prism]

8.3.5 was fun tho

[covert blaze]

furious gaze

[serene vessel]

Tbh SL sucked but s1 SL M+ was fun

[crisp prism]

after vendor

[covert blaze]

79 corruption dh is the most fun ive had in this game

[crisp prism]

yeah that was insane

i wasnt lucky to get infinite stars on my dh at start but i had 3x tentacle corruption

it was fun whenever it proc

i remember infinite stars resto druid 1 shotting me with moonfire in arena tho 😄

i think it was first week

[covert blaze]

https://youtu.be/JEINk89xM6s?t=128

[crisp prism]

mine was more like

game started

he casted 1 moonfire on me

i got instantly deleted with 4-5 infinite stars procs

that was the week of tanks doing dirty stuff with devestation

[covert blaze]

arena vdh with 1 billion hp

[brittle crow]

does anyone know how i can get that gorehowl keychain from the china event

i actually need it SO bad

[brittle snow]

Can i run BS instead of Ravager?

Ravager boring af

[sour frigate]

why not

[silk wharf]

ebay?

[brittle crow]

idk

[crisp prism]

i'm gonna say the obvious thing

china pizza hut

[brittle crow]

didnt think of that

brb

[crisp prism]

jokes aside your best bet is a replica probably

[brittle crow]

i found a solid silver gorehowl keychain for $55 on ebay xd

[crisp prism]

i found a website called supertoyschina

they claim to sell the og event one

[brittle crow]

it doesnt even look like theyre online

[crisp prism]

yeah when i click it it says coming soon ish message

maybe thats legit idk if you really want the event one

might be worth checking in a week

[opaque falcon]

Fury better than arms?

[brittle crow]

found the event one on ebay for $60 too

[crisp prism]

ngl silver one seems like a better deal 😄

[brittle crow]

i think the event one might be silver???

they might be the same thing

tho the silver one is from 6 months ago so prob not but they look v similar

[crisp prism]

do you think they hand out silver keychain for a pizza

[brittle crow]

yes

[crisp prism]

some sites claiming to resell that saying its metal

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/225322501063

[covert blaze]

after tomorrow, yeah probably

[brittle crow]

out of stock tho

[crisp prism]

sended it cuz mat info

[brittle crow]

ah

fugggg am i about to spend $57 on a keychain

no, im not

aaaaa

[crisp prism]

tbh just get a cheap good looking replica 😄

[brittle crow]

there aint any

[drifting violet]

just buy a real axe and carry it around

[brittle crow]

i DID find a hand forged gorehowl replica for $1000

a bit out of my price range rn tho

[crisp prism]

i just searched aliexpress gorehowl and i find like 100 😄

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2255801096872128.html?gatewayAdapt=glo2usa4itemAdapt

[brittle crow]

if its not exact i dont want it

[sullen dove]

A 2 mm long keychain holy

[brittle crow]

i hit max rep w/ cobalt assembly

no achievement

WHERES MY ACHIEVEMENT BLIZZ

ok i got it on relog

[tulip kayak]

Uhh, is it ok to filler WW over slams? Does slam need to be used?

[modest condor]

if you're not talented into improved ww then it's just slam but weaker

[tulip kayak]

I am

Slam just feels like a waste of a keybind unless I was missing something that it did

But figured Id ask here before I make assumpions and make an ass out of me and sumption

[edgy widget]

if you don't have Imp WW, use Slam
if you do, use WW

[abstract flower]

Have I been doing this right? Ive been doing charge reck+of w titanic rage, dragon roar, rampage, crushing blow, blade storm, rampage avatar for opener. is that right?

for aoe m+ stuff

[modest condor]

you wanna swap avatar and OF

[abstract flower]

Ok cool thanks! 🙏

im gonna do it anyway, but is there any reason? I just assumed that way was right bc of and dragons roar line up really well

is it so you have avatar during bladestorm?

[modest condor]

yeah

[abstract flower]

ty ❤️

[eternal lance]

[covert blaze]

sir can I steal some allstar points from you

[eternal lance]

okays

[sullen dove]

no

[covert blaze]

shut up you

[sullen dove]

[covert blaze]

[dire vigil]

Which is the spell we can reflect in Uldaman on Chrono-lord Deios?

[silk wharf]

is that the last boss? The time sand thing can be reflected though you have to do it slightly before the timer says or it won't work.

idk its exact name but its the debuff that goes on random people and needs to be dispelled off.

[dire vigil]

Yeah

Thank you

[lapis horizon]

enrage

[dire vigil]

Is it eternity orb?

[worthy mountain]

Time sink I think

[silk wharf]

I honestly have no clue. I'd have to look at the dungeon journal to tell you the name. I can tell you it puts a dot on 3(?) people and can be removed with freedoms and dispel.

[covert blaze]

time sink

[silk wharf]

Time sink sounds right

if you delay your cds on pull you can avatar the first one saving reflect for the second

I guess with avatar, avatar from odyns, bladestorm and reflect you might not ever have to deal with it.

[dire vigil]

Thanks guys

👍🏼

I found an old @scenic quest video of how to do it. Very helpful.

[slow quest]

hurts a lot past +15s

[unreal onyx]

True, especially on tyra

[final birch]

You can always solo it with sr

Aside from first set

Can pop ER for 2nd time sink

[clever belfry]

with the 5% cdr talent its quite doable

[final birch]

Forgot they reworked it

[clever belfry]

and if you cant get the timing down, just hold your cds for like 7s at start so u avatar the first one off

(or dwarf if youre the correct race)

[flat river]

hello

[restive granite]

guys every ability that inherently enrages you does the hit damage after gaining the enrage damage boost? or is it like rogue where you got to clip in envenoms

like odyns fury and rampage for example

[brittle phoenix]

Yes

You can OF without being enraged and it will still benefit from the enrage provided that you're running titanic rage

[restive granite]

daaamn that made it way easier, i was playing it like i was playing my rogue

[fickle bluff]

everything does but bloodthirst

[restive granite]

also dots are dynamic right? if you apply the bloodthirst bleed and enrage after they get the damage bonus?

[fickle bluff]

yea

[restive granite]

loving warrior so far

[unreal onyx]

RB moment

[flat river]

Ok let me cook

The best cook u will ever hear

So rework juggernaut right

Actually fuck juggernaut for now lemme cook something else

Raging Armaments needs to also buff Execute

[brittle phoenix]

@young swan revoke his license again pls

[flat river]

For Execute to be useful again

Trust me it would be big

RA buffing execute is big

[fickle bluff]

brother raging armaments doesnt exist anymore

[flat river]

?

We use it no?

[fickle bluff]

no

raging armaments was the 3rd RB charge

[flat river]

No

Not that

The anger management node

Whats it's called

[fickle bluff]

reckless abandon?

[flat river]

That

[fickle bluff]

💀

[flat river]

XD

So anyways as i was cooking

Reckless Abandon

Should also buff Execute

So that Execute isn't just a goofy ahh button to press to generate rage

And juggernaut should be like Archi said, it should count towards slaughtering strikes

GG Fury Warrior SS tier

Ok blike @fickle bluff how was that cook

Like this time i didn't burn down the kitchen

[fickle bluff]

slaughtering should stack from execute but it shouldnt be tied to jugg, slaughtering should also be nerfed

[flat river]

Ok WB Reckless Abandon cook

Like not bad

[fickle bluff]

its pointless

[flat river]

No

[fickle bluff]

most the time youre never getting more than 1 execute per rampage anyway

so whats the point of it

[flat river]

...

You press execute to use its reckless abandon charge...

[fickle bluff]

ok but then why not just buff execute

[flat river]

Same with crushing blow and upgraded bloodthirst

[fickle bluff]

instead of going through loops with RA

[flat river]

Because blizzard are not interested in buffing it

Anyways

Atleast i didnt burn down the kitchen

[oblique trail]

If you're making RA also work with Execute, you're further making AM less likely to be used

[flat river]

So?

[fickle bluff]

youre giving the people food poisoning man

[oblique trail]

You're overloading the talent, which is not good

[flat river]

Buff AM make it work with avatar then to make them equal

3:15 hours and i finish work

Tommorrow is off

And then Thursday is my last day of the internship

Till next summer

[flat river]

Ok I'll come back later with a better cook

[oblique trail]

No thank you I'd prefer if you don't

[bitter palm]

i mean if reck

was an actual cd

[flat river]

I may have burnt the food and turned on the smoke alarm

[bitter palm]

am would have a lot more value

[flat river]

But kitchen still intact

[oblique trail]

Welcome to my nr.1 complaint with Warrior, that our CDs are either meaningless or just boring

[flat river]

Bring back legion battlecry

[bitter palm]

u dont like avatar????

[flat river]

Boring

But

[bitter palm]

unironically the only cd that feels like a cd

is ravager on arms

[flat river]

The titans torment talent makes it less boring of a cd

[eternal sundial]

fury doesnt need ava

arms needs something ew

new

[flat river]

I miss legion battlecry 100 rage+rampage+Odyn's Fury combo

Legion was peak WoW

Playing with heroic leap leggo in capture the flag BG's was so much fun

https://tenor.com/view/wow-warrior-orc-pvp-pwnstarr-gif-20747634

[vestal spear]

What trinkets are looking good for Fury atm

[flat river]

BiS is Augry

The other one depends

[vestal spear]

For war within

[flat river]

No.1: wait till it drops first

No.2: ask in beta

[wintry sundial]

Warbreaker haste buff feels like one

And roar

[eternal sundial]

nah

just ravager

spam exe yipiii

[wintry sundial]

Nah I love me my baby lust

[flat river]

Nuh uh

[wintry sundial]

Yuh huh 😠

[flat river]

Look

Avatar should be prot CD

Since it reduces its cd anyways

[bitter palm]

under 35 ye

above 35 no

[flat river]

Recklessness should be for Fury

[bitter palm]

this whole issue with cds

started cause arms didnt have a cd

[flat river]

And add one for arms

[bitter palm]

and had to talent into avatar in SL

cause bladestorm was arms "cooldown"

[flat river]

I dont mind ravager/bladestorm being a node

Except prot needs to be only ravager

Bladestorm is grief

[wintry sundial]

New talent. Haven't named it.

"Press this for the rework you so desperately desire."

[fickle bluff]

avatars been a talent for as long as its been a thing im pretty sure

[eternal sundial]

ravager as sole cd would be fine with cs tactician

imo

[flat river]

Yeah

Atleast in Mop, Legion, BFA, SL, Dragonflight, and TWW

Those are the ones i rember

/ played

Didn't arms also have battlecry (recklessness) in Legion?

[rustic haven]

Taking it back. It wasnt, my memory is bad

[flat river]

[fickle bluff]

all specs did

i think

(me spreading misinformation)

[flat river]

I don't think prot did

[eternal sundial]

i think wc will never return

[bitter palm]

yeah cause fire mage has it

[fickle bluff]

me when the toilet is removed

[flat river]

Battlecry*

[bitter palm]

we arent worthy

obviously

[flat river]

Anyways lets think of a new CD for arms

[fickle bluff]

i got one

how about

"deadly calm"

could modify how you spend rage somehow

[flat river]

Mirror image that instead of being like mages it actually replicates your attacks?

Wait no thats storm earth and fire

[next canopy]

Are we getting anything new today? Long ass maintenance

[fickle bluff]

11.0.2

[flat river]

Real

[fickle bluff]

all the files for tww

[flat river]

Reallll

[fickle bluff]

and all changes that have happened since 11.0.0 was pushed to live

(like the 20% or w/e it was MS nerf)

[flat river]

I like fury this xpac

I burst for 4.5 million in m+

And take all aggro from tank even after waiting 5 seconds

[eternal sundial]

so you like the tuning not the gameplay

[flat river]

No i like both

This xpac we used onslaught mostly except season 3 and half of season 1

Now we're back to BT

[fickle bluff]

you do know we're still using onslaught right

[eternal sundial]

of dead

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-coffin-coffin-dance-funeral-funny-farewell-gif-16737844

[flat river]

Is it or are you joking

[fickle bluff]

do i look like im joking

[flat river]

Cause you're playing with my feelings

I can't see u tf u mean

[eternal sundial]

of is worse with the 11.0 tunung

[fickle bluff]

youll still play OF in m+

probably

[eternal sundial]

ye

but defo not in st

[flat river]

https://tenor.com/view/its-terrible-day-for-rain-its-not-raining-tears-cry-crying-gif-15563346

[brittle phoenix]

Onslaught goated

[fair vale]

what's the prio between raging blow and bloodthirst

[fickle bluff]

anyone who says OS has a bad animation simply has bad taste

[brittle phoenix]

Real

[fickle bluff]

rampage >>>>>>>>>>>> BT

[eternal sundial]

any OS in sl enjoyer

s

[fair vale]

raging blow and BT sorry

[fickle bluff]

rb > bt

[fair vale]

ty

is it normal to not have %100 uptime on enrage

[fickle bluff]

og garms build my beloved

[fickle bluff]

yeah but it should be very high

[eternal sundial]

sylvanas moment

[fickle bluff]

like 90+

[eternal sundial]

i LOVE forced no execut

[flat river]

99.99% is also acceptable

[fair vale]

also, in AOE situations, say your enrage will run out on the same gcd as your whirlwind stacks deplete. should you refresh enrage or whirlwind first

[fickle bluff]

whirlwind

you dont care about ww damage itself

[fair vale]

thi sis where I mainly lose most of the enrage uptime

idk if its the tww beta gear being fucky

[flat river]

legion flashbacks

[eternal sundial]

ww apply above all

[fair vale]

cause my stats are all over the place

[eternal sundial]

might be wawi beta+shite ping

[fair vale]

yeah playing on 200 ping probably doesnt help either

[fickle bluff]

if this was a just world seismic would be 100% and we'd have wrecking ball

but this is not a just world

[flat river]

Real

[fair vale]

lastly, is it easy to swap between arms and fury? are their stats similar

I like playing both tbh and would like options

[eternal sundial]

rn you have all stats so its whatever to swap

[flat river]

Leggo belt + wrecking ball + whirlwind BiS

[eternal sundial]

in wawi arms likes haste less than fury does iirc

[fickle bluff]

put respect on nejantus' vertabrae's name

[flat river]

Real

As i said, and i stand by it forever, Legion was BiS

MoP second

Third is still to be determined, need TWW to cone out to do a verdict

But for now it's WotLK

Actually

Not WotLK

TBC

WotLK is 4th

[fickle bluff]

yeah rampage you press every 30s for a stacking AP buff was actually really interesting and intriguing gameplay

[flat river]

i thought of a new cd for arms

i call it "God's Strength"

[dense elbow]

shoo shoo

[flat river]

so basically it increases your strength by 20%

give or take

and increases all ability dmg by 30%

[oblique trail]

So Avatar with an extra line of text that does the same

[flat river]

no avatar increases all dmg by 20%

and removes snares

[oblique trail]

Ah yes the snare removal that has been relevant once in PvE the past 2 expacs

[flat river]

idk man

[eternal sundial]

it only does abilities so its exactly the same as str

ur making up a do nothing new button

[flat river]

ok ill think more

[clever belfry]

execute him

[flat river]

[dense elbow]

Tindral caugh caugh

[eternal sundial]

thats whaz hes saying

?

[dense elbow]

Hm, I read it more as a 'not even once' sarcastic statement

[flat river]

ok new CD called "Berserk"

[dense elbow]

but you might be correct

[flat river]

you turn into Guts from Berserk

[dense elbow]

Arms get berserk?

[modest condor]

no druids already have berserk

[clever belfry]

what does this mean

[clever belfry]

we have berserker RAGE
which is clearly better.

[flat river]

trust me

[dense elbow]

Well, first something very nasty happens to you... that is not very PG12 friendly. Then blizz personaly makes life a living hell for you. Then, if you got the Guts to solider on - you start scaling with gear

I guess

https://tenor.com/view/sad-sad-guts-guts-berserk-warrior-gif-21773483

[radiant plank]

S word

[flat river]

and then u get an ability called "End" only on your special bar

use it to insta kill your enemy

only usable at 1 HP

[dense elbow]

Sounds like execute to me, but k

[flat river]

nah but fr

idk

[clever belfry]

gala and kitty
y'all need to just stop typing jesus christ

[dense elbow]

Nah'

[flat river]

nuh uh

[clever belfry]

get up, turn around
leave your room

right now

[flat river]

im at work

[dense elbow]

Welp, you better walk to your room, turn around within it, and leave your room.

[flat river]

reckless abandon should make you insta leave the raid group

[dense elbow]

Not very reckless tho, no?

[flat river]

It also insta wipes the raid

Only usable at 10% hp

Boss hp i mean

[modest condor]

with no ability to join again

[flat river]

Real

Ever

[modest condor]

not real abandonment otherwise

[flat river]

REAL

U also leave the guild

And change realms

And unfriend anyone in that raid

And ignore them

[modest condor]

and your sub gets canceled

[flat river]

REAL

Only usable once

Then u auto quit WoW

Perma person banned

Not even changing your IP will make u get a new account

[dense elbow]

This is just a list of things you want to do, no?

[flat river]

Just because Critcake put me in "quit WoW" tier doesn't mean i want to

[dense elbow]

if we don't quit, he will be very disappointed

[flat river]

Real

[wild mural]

Do it

[flat river]

If Critcake @ me and tells me to stop playing WoW for a week i will

[wild mural]

[flat river]

I wont forever though

[dense elbow]

Sure, same. I will also say I quit WoW for a week

[flat river]

xD

[clever belfry]

@mossy fox

[radiant plank]

Only for a week

[fickle bluff]

@mossy fox please man

[eternal sundial]

end him

[flat river]

https://tenor.com/view/ultrasad-gif-23310565

[hardy cargo]

What if during his week of not playing he just yaps in here even more

[brittle phoenix]

@mossy fox help us out here

[flat river]

Critcake has 3 more min to respond

[dense elbow]

the ultimate has been given

[eternal sundial]

30*

[dense elbow]

2min, 30sec - and Gala will play WoW twice as much

Gala going to play WoW thrice as much now

[eternal sundial]

maybe if he plays enough he will stop typing

[flat river]

gg he didnt respong

i even waited an extra 2 min

[dense elbow]

So, double or nothing?

[flat river]

what do u mean im getting nothing opposing it

XD

[dense elbow]

You will earn my respect

[eternal sundial]

you get mine as well

1 week no flame in trade

for 1 week no wow

[flat river]

werent u supposed to stop aswell

[mossy fox]

guess im too late

[dense elbow]

Sure, I will double up on my 'I will say I quit WoW for a week'

[flat river]

XD

hi @mossy fox

[dense elbow]

Do it Gala, earn our respect

https://tenor.com/view/doja-cat-star-wars-gif-25078126

[flat river]

If archi also gets on this I'll do it

So both

Ill wait 15 min

Double or nothing

XD

[dense elbow]

So, two weeks of no WoW play, 15min timer - both Crit and Archi got to tell you to quit?

[eternal sundial]

you should ping archi 10 times

[flat river]

Technically a week and a half since ill do it for 2 resets

[eternal sundial]

and he will give u the week off discord

[flat river]

Oh nvm yeah 2 weeks ig

xD

1 week on WoW 1 week on discord

[dense elbow]

Ok, so you will not play WoW for 1 week, and not talk on discord for 1 week?

[flat river]

Yes

[dense elbow]

Aight, ping them Gala - start the timer after that has been done

[flat river]

I already did

12 min left

[dense elbow]

You havent pinged them

[flat river]

Im not pinging, also crit responded

So archi left

[eternal sundial]

you have to ping

[dense elbow]

No ping, no glory

[flat river]

No if i ping i might get timed out anyways after the timer

[knotty sonnet]

are we getting any nerfs tomorrow ?

[dense elbow]

Doubt it

[knotty sonnet]

Good

Blizzard might let us have fun finally

[dense elbow]

Toby, mind pinging Archi and Crit?

[knotty sonnet]

Why lmao