i didnt die
#fury
coarse nest
For sure! 
still berry
buy a weapon using soup buillion?
clever belfry
yes
still berry
oh i have one from lfr.
and i see i need 2
so this is what i should aim for after getting the 480 event gear, and save my upgrade mats for it
clever belfry
u should get a boatload of them through lfr
still berry
ok ok. suggestion for a good secondary?
clever belfry
uhh with xpac coming to a close soon
sour frigate
craft maybe
clever belfry
id probably buf grieftorch cause its really good when leveling
past pivot
ok ok. suggestion for a good secondary?
Check the pins. 2nd item has guides for prepatch.
sullen dove
7
unreal onyx
77800x3D op
got the same cpu 
still berry
augury also bing chilling
Guessing i gotta beat the respective boss at least once before i see it on the vendor lol
eternal sundial
no
brittle dock
Guessing i gotta beat the respective boss at least once before i see it on the v...
nope
still berry
oh im actually an ape its literally the giant ass dragon
static spire
Are there any quick ways to actually get last seasons 2p?
past pivot
open bank if saved. Item restoration if recent enough .
static spire
rip
past pivot
Don't know if you can change restored items to that tier set. Worth checking out
and check if the ilvl loss is actually worth it for you
edgy widget
Yeah, you can still catalyze other S3 stuff you may have
but S2 it's not a huge optimization at this point
livid lake
So how trustworthy are these new echo collab guides
I’ve seen shit of the rogue guide looking like it’s straight out of chat gpt and the Blood Death Knight guide at one point saying to have an @Player death strike macro
still berry
is there a limit on buillions?
calm ermine
yes
theres a command to check it
/run a=C_CurrencyInfo.GetCurrencyInfo(3010) print("You have earned " .. a.totalEarned .. " of " .. a.maxQuantity .. " possible bullion drops")
still berry
oh 5/15, just unlucky then
calm ermine
I think, this command ignore the bullions you acquire from the mythic+ weekly quest
left perch
So how trustworthy are these new echo collab guides
There are a few errors in some of the info, but that happens on almost every launch for guides - there's typos that don't get caught, or information changed during publishing time. They likely wanted to move the timeline up before RWF/launch so they can focus on other things too.
open wigeon
I guess they will not do a stat squish this expansion right?
modest condor
no
open wigeon
How much HP will have the last mythic raid boss? 1 trillion?
modest condor
100 billion
calm ermine
War Machine speed buff not working?
edgy widget
I guess they will not do a stat squish this expansion right?
next xpac; 12.0
edgy widget
War Machine speed buff not working?
it should, but it doesn't stack with Enrage (or didn't used to anyway, I haven't checked in awhile)
analog kite
are we suposed to run 2p s3 and 2p s4 right now?
modest condor
just item restore it
next canopy
Anyone know what is the better spec to learn for my son on evoker. We are thinking to do doubles action and he wants to know what is better spec in TWW. My guess is Aug is more op. (Delves and M+ gaming)
willow cradle
i probably vendored it tbh, is it a big difference?
If I remember right about 2.2% ahead in ST but that's with optimal gear, it's also prepatch so honestly I'd only do it if you prefer it over S4 4set
willow cradle
do i have to open a ticket for it?
Just google wow item restore, make sure to select all the pieces you need in one go.
manic pelican
I feel like an Aug that is a safe need that doesn’t have the high expecting of big dmg as long as they keep ebon might up at least
Dev gotta do big what they were born to do. Dracarys!
next canopy
Dev gotta do big what they were born to do. Dracarys!
What’s this mean?
manic pelican
@next canopy best place to get the big deets on both specs though is their disc. https://discord.gg/evoker
next canopy
https://tenor.com/view/got-drogon-game-of-thrones-gif-10718218
Awesome! Hahhaa
next canopy
<@545010550527098919> best place to get the big deets on both specs though is th...
Thx homie
manic pelican
Anytime bro
willow cradle
Anyone know what is the better spec to learn for my son on evoker. We are thinki...
Eh Aug is only really good in high M+ it doesn't bring as much damage as a third dps, it's strength comes from the added survivability which only matters in high M+
edgy widget
I’ve seen shit of the rogue guide looking like it’s straight out of chat gpt and...
It's kind of up in the air - there have been a lot of glaring errors and potential plagiarism pointed out on Twitter/etc across different classes, as well as evidence of apparent generative AI used to write at least the (largely fluffy) introductory sections. All of these are serious black marks that may turn people off from them.
That said, I know Revvez and trust his dedication and diligence, so I have no reason to doubt the effort put into the informational side of things or any reservations in highlighting it as a resource. It is not a perfect guide (none are), there are some errors and perhaps a few things I might have done different, but someone could say the same about mine as well. Not knowing their process, I can't even say if the faults are necessarily his or an unknown editors compiling the information either. Ultimately, you just kinda gotta decide for yourself whether you like the information and presentation more than other resources, or whether the controversial aspects are a dealbreaker for you.
final birch
Eh Aug is only really good in high M+ it doesn't bring as much damage as a third...
Better survival, enables some skips
still spear
I really liked the deep dive sections in the Maxroll guides. I started playing WoW during DF and almost all of the information in those sections was new to me.
analog kite
are you guys using priority M+ Talents or the heavy AOE?
still berry
m+ ra
brittle crow
It's kind of up in the air - there have been a *lot* of glaring errors and poten...
this is what i do best
only following information if it appeals to me
i ignore information if it does not support my existing opinions
analog kite
which one do yall run for keys?
hollow tree
does anyone know how much im losing out on if i use reckless abandon build without having the s3 piece?
tried anger build and as a very new fury warrior fk me its a speedy build
brittle crow
what do u think is so much more speedier abt it?
hollow tree
uh just how fast i had to spam things, idk if thats jsut cuz the 15% from frenzied
but it felt like a lot more then 15% faster
brittle crow
im biased but i'd say u should get used to frenzied enrage
its sort of the "default" apm of fury warrior
hollow tree
tbf i do agree with this, was just curious how much i was losing out on
brittle crow
i think its not more than a few percent?
hollow tree
with this build am i just spamming rampage as much as i can?
hmm ok thats good to know at least
hollow tree
AM
brittle crow
yea AM u just want to make sure u dont overcap, since u want to be actually spending it to fuel AM
hollow tree
basically just keep whirwhind up, spam rampage and use bloodthirst at 95%+?
brittle crow
yeap
hollow tree
bloodthirst over rampage even or?
brittle crow
use bloodthirst as filler if ur forced to tho
brittle crow
bloodthirst over rampage even or?
ideally this shouldnt be a problem
you want to kinda be able to peer into the future and be able to crit BT right after a rampage so that ur not at risk of overcapping from it
hollow tree
hmm ok basically just whatever i do try to not overcap
brittle crow
you will overcap when pressing ur cds
so dont worry about it then
but in general, even with RA, u dont want to overcap
its just that little bit more important w/ AM because with RA ur forced to press rb and bt inbetween every rampage so sometimes u just overcap for funsies
hollow tree
aight gotcha
last one do i execute even in aoe settings just cuz it gives so much rage?
assuming nothing else is up
brittle crow
assuming u have no tier bonus to BT up, and u dont have RA boosted bt/rb
exe takes prio over them
its big rage and good dam, good button press often
edgy widget
which one do yall run for keys?
the bolded one is recommended
but personal preference and all that
brittle crow
the bolded one is recommended
why do prio damage when u could parse
analog kite
the bolded one is recommended
ty i went with it and it feels super strong rofl
hollow tree
its big rage and good dam, good button press often
aight ty and big thanks all around this has helped a ton
edgy widget
why do prio damage when u could parse
parsing M+ 
brittle crow
no problem i am always helpful
brittle crow
parsing M+ <:dander:905248880910815302>
i play this game exclusively to be top dps over randos
if that isnt a noble goal idk what is
edgy widget
eternal lance
final birch
What do you mean? What skips require higher survivability?
Having aug enables to do specific skips, not the high survi it provides - hence the comma
Or rather having an evoker but due to the overall evoker specs balance if u wanna take one you’re gonna take an aug
willow cradle
Having aug enables to do specific skips, not the high survi it provides - hence ...
I had mentioned the higher survivability already, repeating what I just wrote didn't make a lot of sense so I assumed you meant the skips were a benefit coming from the higher survivability.
Regardless of that misunderstanding what skips do Aug or evokers in general enable?
willow cradle
Nice
sinful spoke
final birch
Skip frogs + zealot pack in halls, helps skipping the drake (druid doesnt have to take wild charge + mage doesnt have to train how to blink properly which is iffy in pugs), neltharus makes easier to skip the first 2 hunters, 2nd 2 hunters u can skip on 2 ways (first is the regular where it moves them out so u have more room to fight, 2nd is a bit iffier and more complicated for a specific route so I wont talk about it here) + skips hunter after 2nd boss. Uldaman helps with skipping the first golem after 4th boss, BH (maybe not strictly enables the skip but more of a pull) can pull a slimy at the very end for extra ~2.5% - aside from survivability provides much more
Obviously u could always invis pot so there’s not any misunderstanding here
still berry
Did a raidbots Droptimizer and for s4 vendors and it said my biggest upgrade is fyralath lol. That's not actually vendorable and is a raid drop isnt it?
still berry
thats what i though, ty
restive peak
Alright how tf do you get back to this prepatch event wtf
still berry
bottom of the middle dalaran building
restive peak
Ye my dalaran hearth won't work and the only 1 w a portal is WOTLK 1 lol
restive peak
Ashkandur and any other 2h broheem
willow cradle
Ye my dalaran hearth won't work and the only 1 w a portal is WOTLK 1 lol
Should be a portal between the inn near the front gate and the AH in Orgrimmar, dunno for Alliance tho
restive peak
Jesus I figured it out...you have to do the legion intro quest lmfao
fierce thistle
Ashkandur and any other 2h broheem
Thank you 
still berry
Thank you <:peepoHappyFisher:838631904936591401>
i also asked earlier and essentially do lfr for the buillions, and then buy things on the cheat sheet https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/the-war-within-pre-patch
livid lake
It's kind of up in the air - there have been a *lot* of glaring errors and poten...
Thank you guys for your feedback and information you have given me. I will most definitely give them more time to perfect these guides, but I have definitely been sketched out so far. I have always been super critical of guides but I think I still have yet to fully realize the dedication and perseverance to make not just one but a whole suite of class guides.
edgy widget
I'm trying to stay neutral, because there are a lot of angles to consider
edgy widget
i also asked earlier and essentially do lfr for the buillions, and then buy thin...
there's a better list in the Gearing section of that guide, and our updates channel (which admittedly, got a little lost in the pre-patch hype) cc: @fierce thistle
still berry
there's a better list in the Gearing section of that guide, and our updates chan...
ty ty. luckily im pretty much there. Got 1 purchase left and my options from droptimizer are Ouro neck, voice back or seal finger. So looks like Voice uis the way
edgy widget
Don't forget, you can also buy some tmog stuff, like the slime cat mount if you didn't get it in SL
just in case you're not really worried about gear with only a couple weeks left in DF content
still berry
he dont fly so gear it is
fierce thistle
there's a better list in the Gearing section of that guide, and our updates chan...
Big
still berry
fml wasted 250 stones making a spark of awakening
fierce thistle
Ty ty lads
compact knot
im doing +2s for the weekly bullions, random key and this guy is 2.5k io 523 ilvl pulling 1 to 3 mobs MAX
17 minutes for a +2 RLP is a disaster with 3 geared players
got me fucked up
still berry
is there a min key level for the +2 buil? havent done a single key this xpac
compact knot
nah you can do m0s and get the weekly quest done
nobody was doing m0s though so i settled with +2s
mortal rock
what do look easyer to play for tww for questing + duegeon gearing before seson 1 raid in tww fury arms or prot ?
hollow valley
Well arms only requires one wep upgrade at a time? That's somethin
muted star
the 2nd twohander for fury only needs flightstones to upgrade if you have one upgraded already
hollow valley
oh really? cool good thing i didnt start upgrading anything yet
compact knot
what do look easyer to play for tww for questing + duegeon gearing before seson ...
fury is typically the best leveler i think, arms needs slightly less gear and is slightly slower than fury leveling/questing wise, prot is the same gear as arms but probably the slowest questing wise, but you would get the fastest dungeon ques so you should probably que tank to gear your character slightly faster once level 80
if you dont care what spec you play and just want to level and gear up the fastest, quest as fury spec, do dungeons as prot spec and always be in arms loot spec (depends on if you want to raid as dps/tank, if you want to raid tank be in prot spec).
if you want to raid as arms you should only be upgrading one weapon and spend valorstones on something else (if you are gonna cap on valorstones upgrade prot gear/2nd 2 hander)
willow cradle
Rampage and WW cleave comes really late
Arms gets Sweeping strikes from the get go
tribal raven
misters how could i choose when to use rampage or bloodbath in aoe? like only one charge for whirl cleave but theres execute,rampage and bloodbath to use
which one i should choose to use in this situation when rage is active
willow cradle
Depending on how much rage you have
eternal sundial
misters how could i choose when to use rampage or bloodbath in aoe? like only on...
Id BB>ramp but not exe>ramp
edgy widget
misters how could i choose when to use rampage or bloodbath in aoe? like only on...
unless you need to refresh enrage, prioritize consuming your RA charges before Rampage in AoE
tribal raven
may i ask which one is RA? Raging blow?
eternal sundial
RA is the talent that buffs raging blow and bt
edgy widget
Reckless Abandon is what causes Raging Blow to become Crushing Blow and Bloodthirst to become Bloodbath
So after you cast Rampage, you'll get a use of Bloodbath and a use of Crushing Blow, then you'll want to cast Rampage again
Keep in mind that Bladestorm/Ravager will cast Bloodbath for you via Unhinged, so you can skip that part when those cds are available
tribal raven
ohh i see now, so execute for us is kinda like a medium fury builder like higher than Raging blow and Blood but lower than those two builder? and with bladestorm or ravager rampage become lower prio and try to spend all of those RA stack before using rampage?
sir i had been reading all of ur guide these day, quite helpful to me🫶also ty for answering
eternal sundial
ohh i see now, so execute for us is kinda like a medium fury builder like higher...
The takeaway in ravager isnt quite right
The difference is that it uses bloodthirst for you
So you dont cast them yourself during the cooldown
eternal sundial
Unhinged is a bit fucky but it is what it is
haughty lichen
Yo why are there no good looking warrior WA? anyone got any hidden gems that i don't know about?
i downloaded the luxthos one but this doesn't even track the whirlwind stacks
or the enrage duration
eternal sundial
It does in the bars iirc
At least the old version did
Im personally using a mix of revvez and my own WAs
Tmy also has cool shit going on iirc
edgy widget
ohh i see now, so execute for us is kinda like a medium fury builder like higher...
Execute is pretty dead right now (outside of Slayer's Imminent Demise), so yeah it's basically just a low-prio rage generator; otherwise yes you basically prio CB+BB > Rampage in multitarget
haughty lichen
It does in the bars iirc
care to share your WA with me to check it out?
edgy widget
Yo why are there no good looking warrior WA? anyone got any hidden gems that i d...
I imagine a lot more stuff will be updated after content launch, but you might ask around inside#ui-addons-manager
eternal sundial
care to share your WA with me to check it out?
At work + no wago set up so no
haughty lichen
oh there is an entire WA tab tyty
tribal raven
ty!
wary meadow
i downloaded the luxthos one but this doesn't even track the whirlwind stacks
Revvez and critcakes weakauras are always pretty neat (in my opinion)
Does fury still us s3 2 set and s4 2 set?
covert blaze
Yo why are there no good looking warrior WA? anyone got any hidden gems that i d...
revvez
heady wedge
Is slayer doing better than mt in m+?
young swan
Yo why are there no good looking warrior WA? anyone got any hidden gems that i d...
revvez would be my suggestion too
haughty lichen
revvez would be my suggestion too
where can i find revvez WA? or is it sub to get it?
young swan
have to sub
haughty lichen
his last stream was 8months ago?;p
young swan
he only streams the race
well
pretty much anyways
i think he streamed some m+ back in like bfa
covert blaze
his last stream was 8months ago?;p
his wa is updated tho
astral edge
Is there a fury build with very little buttons? Trying to play on steamdeck.
tender seal
Is there a fury build with very little buttons? Trying to play on steamdeck.
you can probrably just use macros
polar narwhal
Even less? D:
fading sky
Is there a fury build with very little buttons? Trying to play on steamdeck.
how many buttons do a steamdeck have ?
cant 1 button be a modifier like a shift key ?:D
night cedar
which is the best trinkets for m+? i saw like 3 guides and says different things xD already i have augury
covert blaze
which is the best trinkets for m+? i saw like 3 guides and says different things...
augury + pbox or augury + oce
night cedar
oook thanks
gilded pawn
how many buttons do a steamdeck have ?
Controller with 4 extra back buttons
Very doable for fury tbh
fading sky
well then u can just have shift ish keys no ?
gilded pawn
Yeah
You can use back buttons to be you mods
Just forget about using utility
Not like I use those anyways
mighty sleet
hey boys i just came back to check fury before TWW
and now im seeing u use 2setter from season 3 how much is that a dps gain?
mighty sleet
i really like what they did to furry
next canopy
Feels great
mighty sleet
not really sure what the big change was tho
next canopy
Haven’t tried with the new 71-80 talents but feels awesome rn
mighty sleet
love bladestorm as furry
next canopy
Yah - I missed bladestorm
plucky ice
spear fixed good 
eternal sundial
not really sure what the big change was tho
Ra/bs/of good/uf dead
plucky ice
no more stand in crap spear
slim coral
i downloaded the luxthos one but this doesn't even track the whirlwind stacks
it does track the WW stacks
its the 4 blue bars
dense elbow
Vers or crit
mighty sleet
crit is 29% sooo vers?
hardy shuttle
Trust the robot
dense elbow
Vers looks about 👍
flat river
guys
do you really wanna know why i cook
like cook hot shit
it's because i like to entertain people by being annoying
flat river
xd
amber arch
ayo are you guys getting beat by ret pallies every now and then?
seems like the only class that can beat fury
flat river
yeah
flat river
AoE for me too
amber arch
sometimes both, mostly AOE
especially in like a brack
I was close but not quite there
also tank was sort of chain pulling a bunch of small packs together instead of big pulls that I could blast
I wonder if we'll feel weaker on fort week. Right now I basically blow all my CDs and the pack is dead. I don't think our sustain is as strong
glad coyote
ayo are you guys getting beat by ret pallies every now and then?
beat mostly all ret pallys every so often theres 1 ret pally that is equal and beats me
ive seen some frost DK's give me a run for my money
amber arch
I havent found a DK thats been able to beat me yet
that ret pally was 518 though I was embarassed haha
Im chalking it up to the the annoying chain pulling and our target caps 🙂
covert blaze
wich stat on OCE?
I like all stats, everything is in DR anyway
pastel geyser
ayo are you guys getting beat by ret pallies every now and then?
Yeah a good ret who knows how to manage their DoT is insane. Did a 17 AA and first pull alone ret was doing 4 mil sustained. We still beat them on boss damage though.
hollow tree
Yo is buying 2 askhandurs a thing or am i better of just getting another 2h?
latent hedge
cant wield 2 ashkandurs
hollow tree
roger that
amber arch
they really have to fix aggro... again
hollow tree
any idea what the best one i can get from m+ is?
amber arch
i wait sooo long like mobs are 90% HP by the time I go in
unreal onyx
any idea what the best one i can get from m+ is?
you can sim that
in theory if you have plenty of spare bullions you can also sim and just buy one that you can upgrade to max ilvl
hollow tree
that is a great point will do tyty
clever path
they really have to fix aggro... again
Get a better tank
My 517 VDH can hold aggro with 526 fury
And my 510 brewmaster
Or just don't go ham for 3 seconds
amber arch
Im just pugging in
covert blaze
My 517 VDH can hold aggro with 526 fury
how much overall is that fury doing
dense elbow
If you die to threat on live, know this: that is 99% on you
Tanks got usually a really obvious setup to build snap-treath, if you dont see them do it - you know you got to wait.
amber arch
vdh I havent had as much trouble with since they pull with big AOE damage
clever path
Like 800k or more whatever key we doing but not doing high
amber arch
If you die to threat on live, know this: that is 99% on you
Tanks got usually a ...
sure, but its worse than it used to be
and it feels really bad waiting 5 / 6 globals before going in and STILL ripping
with like bear tanks
dense elbow
I always ripped threat from bad tanks, always has and always will
amber arch
its way worse now
clever path
Bad tanks plague the game that is why I tank just saying
dense elbow
Way worse for more ppl - as only now are ppl playing for more upfront damage
I always played upfront dam
amber arch
Like with arms I used to be able to throw in a few OPs and cleaves while tanks gathered
dense elbow
Trust, it aint really an issue, it is just bad play
amber arch
fury sometimes I'll fkn whirlwind and BT and start ripping threat
so now I just stay mounted
give the tank like 5-6 gcds, other DPS hitting like 300k then i go in
start spinning and see frames turning red...
clever path
Bears suck
clever path
I never lose threat with BDK
dense elbow
is broken
dense elbow
^
amber arch
like used to be as soon as I saw divine toll i was good to go
clever path
Druid maybe 1 mob if not in range but thats just druid
swipe and thrash are shit at aggro
dense elbow
Their main AoE TPS comes from brambles atm, trash takes too long to ramp up. But if you just wait for like 8-10sec, then burst - it is fine
clever path
I generally prefer every other tank to bear in m+ even
though BDK is just as immobile
amber arch
also i hate tanks that chain pull
dense elbow
why tho
clever path
I hate tanks that small pull
amber arch
because they cant hold threat to incoming mobs
dense elbow
huh?
amber arch
they do like a wimpy double pull, i start blowing CDs, 10s later they pull in another pack
clever path
How to be good tank 'Pull big when group has cds, go ham'
dense elbow
Ok, NotDuru, question: How much DPS are the tanks in your world doing?
100k, 200k, 300k, 400k?
dense elbow
ye
noble kindle
hey, i have a ilvl 492 fury warrior with no fyralath, I have Ashkandur .. is there another bullion weapon that I should get?
dense elbow
they shit
clever path
I smoke that VDH
eternal sundial
hey, i have a ilvl 492 fury warrior with no fyralath, I have Ashkandur .. is the...
Just any 528
amber arch
dense elbow
400-500k is quite average atm
amber arch
ya that is quite low
grizzled shard
hey, i have a ilvl 492 fury warrior with no fyralath, I have Ashkandur .. is the...
imbued qualashi crusher is an option from VoI Primal council
amber arch
those were like 13s
clever path
Yeah i do like 340k lowest but i'm not doing big keys and my vdh is like 515-518 or some shit
dense elbow
It is 100% a playerskill issue, not class, for real
clever path
dense elbow
I still remember tanking Raza, and I had to teach my cotank how to snap threat - as they simply dont know
Most tanks just want to tank, and never learned how TPS works and what abilities got mods
clever path
Bro i hate puggin raids sometimes when cotank does 70k ST and i rip aggro always, got a few 100 healing parses for my BDK cause of it LOL
clever path
Yeah most tanks just don't spam their rotation or know dps rotation and just want group to carry them through
But is what it is
clever path
That is why i tank i cannot dps in keys no more
coarse nest
dense elbow
To be fair, most tanks got the 'my dps doesnt matter; me living matters' and it is correct from their situation. They just get slapped with a reality check once in a while.
Heck, most CE guilds I go into got tanks who don't try to minmax their DPS and survival balance. Nor do they try to give DPS the opportunity to push out the most.
Best tanks usually come from DPS player stock; as the mental is different at a core level.
eternal sundial
To be fair, most tanks got the 'my dps doesnt matter; me living matters' and it ...
Good players are good players, bad players are bad
You can be a shit dps and and a crap tank at the same time
indigo quarry
Don’t tell <@229446360284397570>
who dare ping me in this god forsaken place
coarse nest
Lmfao
dense elbow
@indigo quarry noone did?
coarse nest
indigo quarry
<@229446360284397570> noone did?
you are on my list
eternal sundial
I got into a list
It's a hitlist
UF was on the list you dont wanna end like UF did
dense elbow
A true gentleman and warrior
analog kite
ah shit its bursting week
analog kite
lol
clever path
Well i'll be dammed
eternal sundial
Tuning doesnt matter
Itll be changed anyways
Being S purely because your spec can pad is cope
clever path
Someone salty
analog kite
or just means we could be first to be nerfed
clever path
I just asked copilot, not seen Fury S tier since i dont know when
eternal sundial
Someone salty
Not even, im just warning to not put faith in beta tuning
Considering tier lists in general are pointless...
clever path
Not even, im just warning to not put faith in beta tuning
Pretty sure its prepatch copilot is talking about
clever path
"ai" is just as BS
eternal sundial
And what else would it be but ai
analog kite
heres what chatgpt said:
clever path
Not a coded scripted programme
eternal sundial
Considering humans make wow tierlist and those are shit too
clever path
I just find it weird people calling everything AI now
eternal sundial
you apparently dont know what ai is
clever path
I know what it should be
wintry sundial
heres what chatgpt said:
I main fire and it's lying to you. Our ST is trash right now after the Living Bomb nerfs.
sour frigate
400-500k is quite average atm
for tank?
clever path
AI should be Jarvis from Iron man
analog kite
I main fire and it's lying to you. Our ST is trash right now after the Living Bo...
its giving a general answer of what is usually best, it also says: "It's always a good idea to check the latest patch notes, community forums, and simulation results (like those from RaidBots) to get the most current data on which spec is performing the best. Classes and specs can shift in effectiveness based on balance changes and new content."
seems like a pretty good answer
clever path
you apparently dont know what ai is
eternal sundial
I do not care what they want you to call it
You are getting poor results either way
But hey you are S tier
Gratz
harsh bobcat
A for Arms
wintry sundial
its giving a general answer of what is usually best, it also says: "It's always ...
"Disclaimer: I'm probably wrong."
still berry
Anyone have any macros they consider musts? Day 3 on Fury
wintry sundial
Stance swap macro and @cursor macro for Spear and Ravager
analog kite
"Disclaimer: I'm probably wrong."
ember apex
stance swap macro? if there's a better stance than berserker wouldnt u just stay in it the entire time?
ember apex
yeah i once did a key w/ that mentality, ended up having 90% defensive stance uptime
never again
ember apex
it happened like 6 months ago, i remember thinking about it while driving and getting an involuntary neck twitch about it
ember apex
no lmao, just never turn it on in the first place
why create the possibility for mistakes
clever path
Its worth
ember apex
the highest key i ever pushed was i think i did a 26 one time. i only ever do like +10s now for my vault (when it's a current season)
flat river
i remember last season i did a full warriorr run on a +23 key
ember apex
20+ from the old system or now??
flat river
i remember last season i did a full warriorr run on a +23 key
it was ataldazar
wintry sundial
yeah i once did a key w/ that mentality, ended up having 90% defensive stance up...
I was topping meters in a raid and the the other warrior dumpstered me two fights in a row. I did the entirety of Zskarn and Echo of Neltharion in Dstance.
Shit was tragic.
ember apex
the worst is when ur guild hears about it
still berry
Bs rava same keybind
i dont really get what the point of these are since action bars can be set per talent layout?
clever path
No lol
clever path
Takes practice thats all same with everything
wintry sundial
Eh some are definitely harder than others
analog kite
how many externals did you get
still berry
Can Ravager not be used @player anymore? Cant seem to get that macro to work
fickle cedar
Can Ravager not be used @player anymore? Cant seem to get that macro to work
show your macro
still berry
#showtooltip
/cast [@player,known:Ravager] Ravager; [] Bladestorm
same as wowhead lol
The spear version works as intended:
#showtooltip
/cast [@player,known:Champion's Spear] Champion's Spear; [known:Thunderous Roar] Thunderous Roar
fickle cedar
I just use this one (just change to player instead)
#showtooltip
/cast [@cursor, known:Ravager] Ravager; [known:Bladestorm] Bladestorm
sullen dove
#showtooltip
/cast [known:227847]Bladestorm
/cast [known:228920,@cursor]Ravager 
what i got that also works ig
still berry
neither works for me idk lmao
fickle cedar
Is your game in another language ?
still berry
and ravager def talented rite <:detective:912341312907378689>
ya, it bring up the aim circle lol
still berry
like the skill itself is aimed. but it's supposed to just be used @player. but it refuses lmao
im a fucking ape
sullen dove
still berry
i didnt realize when i swapped talents it hadnt saved my macro in the slot, so i was just using the normal skill lmfao goodbye
sullen dove
still berry
humble lark
is fragment best in keys for fury? noticed maxroll guide was showing it as better one
sullen dove
it might be more valuable now in prepatch cuz the time you spend in bladestorm you dont drop stacks (as fast anyway unhinged procs might still drop stacks) and waaay more of your burst is frontloaded in your first few abilities anyway
so both of those reasons i think would make sense it def got pseudo buffed
like avatar (odyns) > roar > ramp > bladestorm > odyns being 90% of your burst dmg in only 5 globals should be quite epic
still berry
ok so got my macros and shout + reflect WA. think im set now
sullen dove
inland veldt
how big of an ilvl diff does wpn have to be for SMF to be higher than TG?
modest condor
go to raidbots, do a gear compare sim and find out
smf is not competitive by design so nobody cares to check that kind of stuff
ashen socket
dk alt...............................................
analog kite
dk alt...............................................
lol tell him to put it on then
humble lark
is headenchant enugh to procc fire rings?
modest condor
it can proc it but i dont think it's enough to get the max amount
still berry
Would it make sense to add Avatar and Arcane Torrent to the Blow Your Load macro?
#showtooltip Recklessness
/use Recklessness
/use Blood Fury
/use Berserking
/use Ancestral Call
/use 13
/use 14
humble plover
arcane torrent is on gcd so no
still berry
but avatar would make sense ye?
humble plover
i dont like using avatar on the macro cause it triggers an OF cast
still berry
OF cast?
humble plover
odyns fury
still berry
ah
humble plover
assuming you have the talent and u should
small dome
whatsthe best 2 bullion weps, no axe
still berry
whatsthe best 2 bullion weps, no axe
ashkandur
hardy cargo
2nd one is whatever you think looks coolest
still berry
is it easy to get the molten vanguard set pieces nowawadays?
ornate gust
I want to use raidbots to simulate my gear. The website shows a message that there is a major talent issues with pre-patch ... Is that valid for fury warrior ?
analog kite
try it
edgy widget
I want to use raidbots to simulate my gear. The website shows a message that the...
Warriors have been updated for the pre-patch
edgy widget
is it easy to get the molten vanguard set pieces nowawadays?
unless you still have some S3 gear leftover that you can catalyze, not really, no
still berry
unless you still have some S3 gear leftover that you can catalyze, not really, n...
this is my first 3 days on war and also first 3 days on this xpac so latest set it is lmao
edgy widget
also the last 18 days of this expac, so I think you'll be fine either way 😆
still berry
true, idk why im caring so much. just trying to learn the class ig
restive peak
I have 2 alt warrs I'm preppin for TWW and they're both in this seasons 4 set homie, it's not a huge diff
young swan
it really doesnt matter
the diff is miniscule and doesnt impact the way you play in any meaningful way
clever path
A true warrior main has at least 6 warriors on both EU and NA
small dome
Have y'all ever heard of grass though
still berry
does the Incandescent Essence questline still take multiple weeks? worth doing still?
clever path
Have y'all ever heard of grass though
Erm Ganja right?
humble lark
is ash trinket any goof for fury?
analog kite
does the Incandescent Essence questline still take multiple weeks? worth doing s...
you can do, heroic, and normal and then just get a couple lfr bosses to finish it off
humble lark
good*
still berry
you can do, heroic, and normal and then just get a couple lfr bosses to finish i...
hmm. but will it be useful in 18 days lol
analog kite
hmm. but will it be useful in 18 days lol
nope, but youll gain gear and crest from doing the raids, so win win. plusyou get t learn the class
still berry
true
10 years of enhance and 29 keybinds to do less damage than this class that doesnt give me carpal tunnel. sigh
clever path
https://youtu.be/y_e3KHk6pec?si=MfScAhqQ9uJfzKZu Heard upcoming buffs
analog kite
10 years of enhance and 29 keybinds to do less damage than this class that doesn...
enh is doing poor in pre patch, but is pretty strong in beta
edgy widget
https://youtu.be/y_e3KHk6pec?si=MfScAhqQ9uJfzKZu Heard upcoming buffs
mans really did a video reading patch notes and left out all the hero talent changes? 🤔
clever path
Big oof
high pelican
heyo!
quick question
do I have to wait for 90-100% on the tier set everytime to use Bloodthirst? seems it takes forever sometimes, and the button is glowing in my face 😄
still berry
enh is doing poor in pre patch, but is pretty strong in beta
not worth 4 times the keybinds
past pivot
do I have to wait for 90-100% on the tier set everytime to use Bloodthirst? seem...
Have to? No. But it does increase your chances of BT critting.
If you can use another talent without rage-starving, you can do that as well.
high pelican
so I should 1. wait for the meow from the weakaura and don't touch it or 2. just click it anytime to do some dps? no idea what makes most owie
like, this was my overwall last key
gaunt sonnet
in pre patch with 4P, what's the prio if you have rampage ready, CB and BB?
eternal sundial
Cb>bb>ramp
eternal sundial
like, this was my overwall last key
Dont sit on ur bt
high pelican
so I should just use my Blooththirst when Bloodbath procs?
funny how simming still says my S3 trinket Rezan's Gleaming Eye gives far better dps than the Puzzle Box I got now 🤔
gaunt sonnet
Cb>bb>ramp
unless you're at rage cap, I assume?
analog kite
just change to 5 target
gaunt sonnet
or do you always use both CB and BB?
high pelican
CB?
gaunt sonnet
Crushing Blow and Bloodbath
high pelican
I've got Crushing Blow? oO
gaunt sonnet
you do if you play Reckless Abandon 🙂
analog kite
M+ Priority build on wowhead
high pelican
ah yeah, the Raging Blow buff thing
I kind of spam that because it procs all the time
but the only thing that ups my % on the set thing is Rampage
and that was my initial question, as that takes "forever" and Bloodthirst is only lingering waiting for 90-100%
(so am I thinking the set bonus is just crap ?)
high pelican
Dont sit on ur bt
if this is true
analog kite
Phil is pretty good, i would trust him
high pelican
so to recap, if I see Bloodthirst proc and turn into Bloodbath, I should just send it and ignore the %?
young swan
you just get bloodbath after every rampage
dont pay attention to the tier
pretend its passive
prob the best course of action
young swan
it was designed when BT wasnt a button worth pressing on CD
not exactly its fault, although im of the opinion that it was never a good tier set
clever belfry
not exactly its fault, although im of the opinion that it was never a good tier ...
fury had no good ones that xpac
ember blade
i had fun with the season 3 one ngl
clever belfry
okay tbf, i kinda do like the amir one - except it forced us into cornge anni storm of steel dogshit
but
on ptr i tried playing without anni and it just felt infinetly better
CB to spend RA when u didnt have stacks, BB when you did
was a lot of fun
but then on live it was piss boring
young swan
fury had no good ones that xpac
I like s3 and s1, both have issues but s2 is by far the loser to me
ember blade
season 2 feels like a shittier version of season 3
the BT's felt way meatier with the S3 bonus
clever belfry
except on aoe
clever belfry
I like s3 and s1, both have issues but s2 is by far the loser to me
didnt play the s1 for more than a handful of days so i kinda wont comment on that one
ember blade
i liked it especially on aoe since pressing odyn's fury in aoe situations feels awesome
rigid stirrup
S2 all that ramp for not satisfying damage
clever belfry
the bts
of
ember blade
season 3 did the auto crit just better in my humble opinion
bitter palm
as anda said s3 couldve been so much more if we werent forced into
dogshit anni sos gameplay
bb with 2p>cb>bb
humble lark
how come so many top warriors use icon and essence.? is not aug trinket bis?
clever belfry
We do a lot more dam than before prepatch
so augury is less of your dam and secondaries get better again
humble lark
ah ok 🙂
warm crag
so augury is less of your dam and secondaries get better again
i will debate you
humble lark
doing droppoptimizer tho for dungon slice trinkets that seems to be siming highest for me atm is fragment and ash. should i trust those sims?
warm crag
outrageous streak
clever belfry
double on use aintnoway
i can see that being semi real
i would NOT want to bother with thwt shit tho
clever belfry
id Just play fragment/puzzle + stat stick
humble lark
ok 🙂
clever belfry
(whichever works better with your group / stats)
humble lark
yea ^^
feral ivy
is raider.io good site to look up guilds that are recruiting? im a mythic raid but i wanna do more than 4 bosses
warm crag
wowprog rio maybe wclogs if normal guilds actually recruit on it
should be good enough to find a ce guild
edgy apex
what are we gemming in prepatchrn, haste/mast or vers/mast?
glad coyote
are you guys taken BS or ravager for m+ currently?
edgy apex
I've been running bladestorm
rigid stirrup
Bladestorm is a more consistent option
edgy widget
Bladestorm is better overall and deals its damage much faster (which makes it burstier)
edgy apex
^
clever path
“BONESTORRMMM”
languid ivy
Is Wrath and Fury still bugged?
halcyon tulip
silly question..
how often we use slam in m+ or raid?
coarse nest
is raider.io good site to look up guilds that are recruiting? im a mythic raid b...
There’s a discord specifically for recruitment I’d definitely check that out if you haven’t
brittle crow
assuming pure st and assuming you care enough to actually press it
summer quail
Is Wrath and Fury still bugged?
yes
halcyon tulip
if u cant press anything else, u press slam
same logic for ww?
summer quail
silly question..
how often we use slam in m+ or raid?
if you do not have any whirlwind talents you use it when you have nothing else to press.
brittle crow
same logic for ww?
yea if aoe
edgy widget
Slam = ST filler, WW = AoE filler (when you have Imp WW talented)
halcyon tulip
ty all ❤️
edgy widget
you don't ever need both on your bars at the same time
languid ivy
I was jjust curious if its all bugged or just the reset part
summer quail
I was jjust curious if its all bugged or just the reset part
the damage part is bugged
halcyon tulip
@edgy widget kek
languid ivy
https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/1230099941213470720/123011856894...
Thank you 🙂
edgy widget
just help in general
halcyon tulip
why it works fine for me
edgy widget
said the person in the abusive relationship
halcyon tulip
you make me laugh genuinely thank you for that
edgy widget
just blink twice if you need help
feral ivy
There’s a discord specifically for recruitment I’d definitely check that out if ...
been applying to a lot of guilds today from warcraft logs. do u know that discord by anychance?
summer quail
been applying to a lot of guilds today from warcraft logs. do u know that discor...
there are also guilds in #promotion
halcyon tulip
just blink twice if you need help
care to share your action bar? i'm curious now
edgy widget
I can't be assed to log in right now, but here's an old version
brittle crow
u guys can see ur action bar?
edgy widget
that's out of combat, this is in combat
covert blaze
bars in 2024
brittle crow
bars hidden, only luxthos
edgy widget
I hate to be that guy, but those WA setups suck
edgy widget
they do the same thing bars do, except they randomly break horribly, you have to wait for someone else to fix them (or figure it out yourself)
edgy widget
I'd rather have a UI I can set up completely to see what I wanna see
covert blaze
bars are ugly and have no functionality
halcyon tulip
you play like a mobile game haha
edgy widget
not what some random tuber thinks I should see
halcyon tulip
but if works for you cool i guess
edgy widget
bars are ugly and have no functionality
they have the exact same functioantliy that WA icons do
like literally exactly the same
brittle crow
they have the exact same functioantliy that WA icons do
this statement proven false by true orcish patriots
edgy widget
they show charges, GCD sweep, they show cooldowns
edgy widget
they don't have to be
edgy widget
bars hidden, only luxthos
but just FYI this is also a grid lmao
halcyon tulip
you need to be comfortable pressing your keys after all
brittle crow
yea but its like, 7 diff grids
edgy widget
so is mine
edgy widget
It's not that difficult, do it once and never again
better than depending on someone else to set things up in a way they think you should see stuff
brittle crow
im a warrior player
i WANT to be told what to think
i dont want to think for myself!!
edgy widget
im a warrior player
sullen dove
default ui only
covert blaze
they have the exact same functioantliy that WA icons do
I can't track my s3 tier set/surge of power stacks and duration and so on using bars
sullen dove
anything more L
brittle crow
https://tenor.com/view/meh-mediocre-so-so-kinda-maybe-gif-13935570
ok human main.....
edgy widget
I can't track my s3 tier set/surge of power stacks and duration and so on using ...
you can't do that with WA ability icons either
you can make WAs that do it... which I have
summer quail
i WANT to be told what to think
imagine thinking at all
edgy widget
you cannot seriously be making that argument lmao
covert blaze
you can't do that with WA ability icons either
I have 1 bt weakaura with all that
plush maple
I love my current bar setup
edgy widget
because having them separated makes them more flexible
brittle crow
ill show u flexible..
edgy widget
I don't want one WA that does every single thing for BT, because when one part of it breaks or is no longer needed, I don't need to go in and rip it out
I can just turn off the individual parts
covert blaze
then why use the uglier version of the same thing
edgy widget
they're literally the same icons
cinder venture
hello guys, which trinket should i use instead of omnious cus my team doesnt run it, thanks
edgy widget
and again, I'm not going to be beholden to Luxthos or anyone else to keep my UI updated lmao
covert blaze
you said weakaura sets suck idk
i do my own 🤷
i just think they have more uses and are more practical
ui is subjective anyway
edgy widget
Yes, those premade sets do suck for the reasons I outlined; I didn't say anything about your personal one that you make and maintain which I have not seen
brittle crow
ui is subjective anyway
ui is subjective but some uis are more subjective than others
edgy widget
they have the exact same number of uses, there's literally no difference between using a well setup action bar or a well setup weak aura to show an ability tooltip
they both show an icon on screen
plush maple
Since I started wow and throughout the years I went from having no WA to almost all of the WA to track whatever could be tracked to now having no WA except to track specific thing for spec like season 1 or two set for bloodthirst buff or for raid mechanics
edgy widget
<@61282228017041408> kek
I keep my UI minimal af because I don't want this kind of cluttered stuff covering half my workspace
plush maple
You’d love mine then
edgy widget
I could absolutely replace the whole thing with WAs but... why bother? Action bars are way easier to quickly hotswapped while keeping everything aligned the way I like it
plush maple
I love mine
edgy widget
and the few WAs I have are all indepednent, so I can turn off the S4 BT crit tracker without decoupling it from my actual BT icon
plush maple
Sadly I just got to bed so will take time to find couple year old screenshot that is same bars as I use now
edgy widget
it's also lighter weight, because I don't need a separate WA for Bloodthirst and a separate one for Bloodbath (or RB/CB, etc)
graceful ruin
i find using your bars as weakaura so extremely ugly lol
halcyon tulip
I keep my UI minimal af because I don't want this kind of cluttered stuff coveri...
me too.. that is only action bar the whole UI is very clean to me at least..
covert blaze
it's also lighter weight, because I don't need a separate WA for Bloodthirst and...
you don't for weakauras either
edgy widget
I mean ultimately it is personal preference and WAs are cool in that you can do a whole lot with them - you could replace your entire UI with them if you wanted
you do, or you at least need separate checks and conditions for them... which isn't really a "separate" WA, but is a whole separate set of delineations for them
halcyon tulip
@edgy widget
edgy widget
but proclaiming that WAs to replicate what Actions Bars do in a way that's just wholesale is a really weird hill to try to die on
covert blaze
you do, or you at least need separate checks and conditions for them... which is...
nah the cd trigger gets replaced by the other spell unless you check to ignore override spell
graceful ruin
i think claiming that any type of UI is better than any other type of UI is weird as fuck
edgy widget
I mean some UIs are objectively better than others
wanton mirage
this one is newly made one for TWW.
how do you fade chat in elvui?
covert blaze
i think claiming that any type of UI is better than any other type of UI is weir...
my original message was a joke
ui is subjective
whatever works for you is fine
graceful ruin
yea i was just responding to what archi said lol
wanton mirage
wait i thought we are in UI channel lol
edgy widget
but when we're talking about an "action bar" made out of WeakAuras or an "action bar" made out of Bartender... they're literally the same exact thing
graceful ruin
I mean some UIs are objectively better than others
yea i mean if you're getting the right amount of information for you and not impeding your performance with too much information i guess
at that point it's all the same
imo
edgy widget
to a point, yeah
"bad" UIs are ones that cover your screen in useless, redundant information
which doesn't mean you can't be good with them, people can get used to just about anything, but that still doesn't make the interface itself good
graceful ruin
yea i usually like decently large UI elements but when that shit covers up your entire screen then i feel like there's not much point
covert blaze
which doesn't mean you can't be good with them, people can get used to just abou...
swordish's ui sucks and he owns
edgy widget
everyone knows the tank who has like 4 of the same warning pop up in different places on their screen
or the old memes of this type stuff
covert blaze
sco's ui 
edgy widget
even this, which is a little less obviously cringe, is still an awful UI
graceful ruin
yea i mean at one point i had 3 separate instances of damage numbers on my screen for each hit, and i was so used to looking at my UI that i just didn't realise
edgy widget
could you use it and be successful with it? Absolutely... doesn't change the fact that it's still shit
graceful ruin
wasn't a detriment to my performance in any way but was definitely funny lmao
edgy widget
ultimately a UI is about seeing the information you need and hiding the information you don't - that second part is the step most often overlooked by people who may be misguided into thinking "more is better"
plush maple
I finally found my current UI (since BFA) but I don’t use the bottom bar anymore (honor bar)
edgy widget
my raid frames are tiny and shoved up in the corner - why? Because I play a Warrior and I don't give a shit who needs to be dispelled, who is living or dead, or where their health is at
likewise, my boss mods don't ping me when XYZ gets a debuff that I don't interact with, I don't care who got targeted by the mechanic or how many stacks the tank has if I can't do anything about it
covert blaze
I think the part that bothers me the most about unhidden bars is the keybind text
edgy widget
tbf you can hide that
covert blaze
i know
plush maple
I intentionally make sure I see those
covert blaze
no one does it for some reason
edgy widget
usually because it's so unobtrusive that you just blank it out
plush maple
^ This
covert blaze
yeah i'm just weird ig
edgy widget
I've had the same buttons bound in the same places for so long it's kind of automatic to me
it is prettier without them though, I agree
I hate blank spots in action bars
graceful ruin
yeah i always like to see my bars in case there's some utility button that i don't remember the binding for
especially on classes other than warrior
edgy widget
like this (DF art preview)
graceful ruin
one because we don't have shit and two because i know my binds pretty well lol
graceful ruin
I hate blank spots in action bars
like unfilled buttons?
edgy widget
yeah
graceful ruin
thats fair
edgy widget
you can hide them, a lot of people just don't bother
plush maple
Very fair
graceful ruin
my characters are so fucked sometimes i have buttons in my main bar unfilled lol
covert blaze
I hate blank spots in action bars
yeah that shit and the keybind text drives me crazy when people post them
halcyon tulip
or the old memes of this type stuff
graceful ruin
it's like would it be better for me to have something on Z rather than shift C? probably
edgy widget
I actually have a ton of action bars for various things - they're just hidden bars that can't be seen unless I mouseover them
graceful ruin
but if it's the kinda button that fits better on the latter then Z stays empty
edgy widget
because I don't need to see shit like my mounts or toys in combat
plush maple
I actually have a ton of action bars for various things - they're just hidden ba...
That’s Bartender addon right?
edgy widget
that's why I was picking on GNCs, cause the amount of icons he had mixed in with his combat icons was just
edgy widget
That’s Bartender addon right?
I use bartender yeah, but there are any number of options
it's just really lightweight and easy to use
silk wharf
ive been really happy with the new default ui bars.
edgy widget
they actually are nice, I would replace bartender entirely with them if they had just a bit more functionality
silk wharf
i was expecting to need to go to an addon but havent wanted to
plush maple
I started with Bartender but for some reason it kept breaking (during BFA) so I moved to Dominos and really like it
graceful ruin
I kinda just prefer how elvui looks and I use naowhui but
they've done such a good job with the base UI I feel
silk wharf
they've done such a good job with the base UI I feel
Agreed. They very much have.
edgy widget
the main reason I use bartender over WoW bars is that WoW bars don't allow custom conditional text - my main action bars are set to show in-combat or when I mouseover, and my secondary bars are set to show only on mouseover, which is something WoW can't do atm
plush maple
I’d try using Elvui if it was possible to get from curseforge instead of some other random installer and updater
edgy widget
I don't like full WA suites though, because WAs have way too much potential for breaking
halcyon tulip
that's why I was picking on GNCs, cause the amount of icons he had mixed in with...
kek, i can hide the mount bar tho it's not a bad idea 🙂
edgy widget
and when WA breaks, however rarely, it takes everything down
graceful ruin
I’d try using Elvui if it was possible to get from curseforge instead of some ot...
yeah I mean it's not too hard to install and I only update it when it actually fucks up so its not much if an issue imo
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push comes to shove, I can play my full rotation and raid pretty well without DBM/BW or without WAs, or just about any other addon
even if Bartender went down, I have a backup of my UI saved using blizz' local version, so I could use that
graceful ruin
I'd probably struggle but I could definitely raid on warr, although I don't do mythic
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but if I had everything running through WA and WAs decided to brick on me for some reason, I'd be up shit's creek
and that has happened, albeit very rarely
graceful ruin
I think if I did higher level content I'd want to personalise my shit more and make it less prone to breaking uncontrollably
but as long as I can do my heroic raid and +20s I'm good
brittle crow
@modest condor this achievement where i have to kill 8 rares during the storm events is aids
wtf
do i just gotta sit here and wait for a respawn
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that for the tavian stuff?
modest condor
yes
halcyon tulip
recklessness should be sync with other thing or can i freely use like there's no tomorrow?
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without AM it aligns with Avatar, TR, and OF naturally
halcyon tulip
without AM it aligns with Avatar, TR, and OF naturally
i forgot what AM is..
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anger management
clever path
Anger management season 2 gave me permanent carpal tunnel I think
silk wharf
it drove me off fury
small dome
Do I bladestorm during single target, the guide says during champions might but im not running spear
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Yeah just drop it whenever you're low on rage to build back up to another Rampage
small dome
ok, for signle target should i allign recklessness with it or nah
cuz with AM reckless syncs with bladestorm well
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Na, you don't need to
once you get Imminent Demise and all that jaz from Slayer, it picks up more
small dome
thanks
bronze dew
stupid question...how can i get 2p from S3?? everything is awaken now so not sure how i can obtain them
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unless you have some old gear left over to catalyze or item restore, you can't
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but its extremely minor, do don't worry about it
small dome
I wouldnt worry, 18 days left
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it's like +2% in ST, and you could even run an Onslaught build w/ full S4 that performs on par
its main use is in MT for big OF burst, but you also have lower sustain, so it's not as big a buff as it looks
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ok, for signle target should i allign recklessness with it or nah
for clarity, I initially had BS higher in the priority because it does good burst damage
but I dropped it down because if you use Bladestorm with other cooldowns, Unhinged will spend most of your Furious Bloodthirst stacks on regular Bloodthirsts instead of Bloodbath
You don't have that problem so much with Ravager, since you can keep using Rampage in between to reapply the RA buffs
and it's not an issue at L80 since we'll no longer be using that set
split coyote
Better late than never!
modest condor
grats
fluid viper
I have a dilemma.
My guild currently has two fury warriors and one arms. I personally want to give fury a try in TWW since Mountain Thane looks like it fits the idea of elemental warrior more than shaman now.
Is that entirely too many warriors?
willow cradle
Kinda depends at the level y'all play at tbh
fluid viper
We obtain AOTC and sometimes do the first two bosses or so of mythic content
modest condor
you could bring 10 warriors to your raid and it still wouldnt be a problem
willow cradle
^
modest condor
it's not until you get to the later mythic bosses that raid comp starts mattering
willow cradle
As long as everyone plays at a similar level there shouldn't be an issue
fluid viper
Huge phew. I've been trying to pick something that no one else is playing and ended up choosing Rogue (because no one plays them) and developed some serious buyers remorse.
I'm not excited about their hero specs the way I am about something like mountain Thane
willow cradle
Yeah the rogues kinda didn't eat
fluid viper
I like the gameplay of assassination being that its on the slower side, but I figure I can just go powerful enrage and get the same feel
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it's not until you get to the later mythic bosses that raid comp starts matterin...
to a point, depends on how full the rest of the roster is
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I have a dilemma.
My guild currently has two fury warriors and one arms. I per...
which is to say that it really depends on your guild and is probably something you should talk to your RL/GM about
being the fourth warrior, yeah the odds are a bit stacked against you if the roster is very full, but a good player will typically see playtime no matter what
amber arch
Is it true and worth it to play single minded fury with Gholaks and forestorm you can build up max signet stacks in a few seconds?
nocturne nymph
I just found out that the wowhead guide displays 2p/2p but both with shoulders, what is the intended combo? I assume its s4 Head / Chest?
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Is it true and worth it to play single minded fury with Gholaks and forestorm yo...
signet is RPPM so it shouldn't be
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I just found out that the wowhead guide displays 2p/2p but both with shoulders, ...
shoulders/gloves are the lowest budget pieces for S3, but tbh any of them will do
good catch though, should be helm/chest for S4; I've updated
amber arch
wish i hadnt vendored my s2 pieces
amber arch
item restore em
can't, too far back
when warband banks came I vendored everything that was in there too
amber arch
sweet
brittle crow
speaking of things i shouldnt have to worry about
how much do i actually have to worry abt slam
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it's really just a novelty that's kinda neat to play around with
brittle crow
it is 2x the damage on paper
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how much do i actually have to worry abt slam
very little; you'll never use it while Improved WW is talented (any MT build), so it's only a pure ST filler
nocturne nymph
good catch though, should be helm/chest for S4; I've updated
Thank you for the quick feedback!
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during the pre-patch, you'll have to use it a little more, but w/ hero talents at L80, you'll have more Executes and TC to fill the rotation, so you'll very rarely have to resort to filling with WW/Slam
next canopy
Warrior feels so nice
wheat estuary
Any easy ways to do mage tower during pre patch or is it just fucked right now with the tuning
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Any easy ways to do mage tower during pre patch or is it just fucked right now w...
if anything, I'd think it'd be easier since Fury got a huge damage buff
slate mica
wrath and fury still bugged?
sullen dove
wispy dock
whoop his ass swordfish
young swan
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holy moly
modest condor
big pump
heavy plover
so when using Reckless Abandon, are the empowered abilities your #1 button to press when active? I remember a conversation before about the upgraded Raging Blow being the strongest hitting ability Fury has.
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not actually the strongest hitting, but the highest damage contribution due to its various buffs; yes CB and BB are (for the most part) highest priority, though you'll tend to use them naturally anyway
heavy plover
and the Reckless Abandon buff doesn't stack, so if you use Rampage > CB (with Recklessness) > Rampage, you'll lose a possible use of Bloodbath. Is that okay? or should I be holding my rampage to use all my CB and BB charges?
sullen dove
ideally u just hit both then ramp again
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BB actually has a lower priority than Rampage when high on rage, but that very rarely happens outside of CDs (and during CDs you're usually consuming BB with Ravager anyway)
the rest of the time though, you're not really going to have the rage generation to sustain avoiding casting BB anyway
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you will use BB ahead of RB
coarse nest
You want to BB first so that it goes into CD while you Raging blow
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Sadly, Execute is currently downbad, so it just becomes as low rage filler
dark frost
Dont you only BB ahead of CB when you have s3 2p
Cause the RB/CB increases BB crit chance
fluid cedar
is wrath and fury still being cringe
dark frost
Yes
fluid cedar
womp womp
sullen dove
ya its prolly pretty good now
compact knot
was 3.5k over puzzle box
sullen dove
lot more up front damage in a few buttons and staying in bladestorm long time makes it stronker proly