fury

[bitter palm]

but i feel like all 3 would be too much

[eternal sundial]

It would

Rb off it

Easy

[bitter palm]

yeah

[willow cradle]

This is like when kids play act fighting and go I'm the strongest because I have this power and then all the other kids say nuh uh I'm stronger because I have that plus infinite

[dense elbow]

infinite +1, I win

[willow cradle]

Nuh uh infinite+2

[bitter palm]

[flat river]

https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-beocord-no-lol-gif-24435520

infinity + 3

[dark ice]

!talents

[clever path]

How to make warrior angry in 2 words

Rets better

[dense elbow]

You take those words back and shove em up your arse from where you uttered them!

[unreal onyx]

(I didnt even do good)

15 HoI with a wipe on 3rd boss

[dark ice]

And why are you sharing this fine info with us?

[unreal onyx]

fury fuck good

gimme the 2 weeks of shine

[rotund eagle]

Pre patch is also a clown show of balance lol

[unreal onyx]

exactly

[modest condor]

why no 16 nelth?

[gleaming siren]

Paging @warm crag to remove your her privilege

[unreal onyx]

im too bad for weekly 16 nelth

[stoic bough]

what trinkets should i take for m+ fury?

[warm crag]

[inner ibex]

Hey Guys im trying my Fury again since BFA. How do i decide on which i will spend reckless abandon, bloodthirst or raging blow?

[dense elbow]

Just make this the habbit: CB (for the %crit for BB), then BB

[clever belfry]

https://i.imgur.com/iyamcq0.png ?

[clever belfry]

https://i.imgur.com/8fMrtSu.png

[dense elbow]

AA or BHH?

[clever belfry]

?

there u go

[clever belfry]

neither

yall are just coping on bladestorm
rav is inf better in prepatch :3

[unreal onyx]

I know the dmg is bad

[clever belfry]

then why post it

[oblique trail]

tomato

[clever belfry]

so i can make a fool out of you?

[clever belfry]

🍅

[inner ibex]

Oh ok thanks buddy

[sour frigate]

Literally seen it every other key before 18

[dense elbow]

Oh, the comments are quite normal. Usually the "thanks for the carry!" is very common atm.

Tho, I saw them before prepatch as well. So meh?

[unreal onyx]

yes

[glad coyote]

does anybody have a dps tier list at the moment?

[dense elbow]

What do you want to see?

Cause I got a list for any need

Want fury S tier, got that. Want it F tier, got that.

[pure flint]

Single minded fury

IDK why blizzard is pushing it so much

[gilded pawn]

Blizzard pushing it with one whole talent

😱

[dense elbow]

That talent could be a 100% OF damage buff! SMF ruins everything!

[glad coyote]

current list for m+

[dense elbow]

Where do you want fury to fall? Cause we got M+ lists for days

want it to be S, mid or fail tier?

[gilded pawn]

We can make one for you in anyway you want right now

And you can send it to your friends

[dense elbow]

If you want a list, I recommend going to a creator you trust. Then check theirs out. As if you and your influencer see eye to eye in what you value - that is the best you can get.

[edgy widget]

getting existential up in here

[clever belfry]

but why

are we

[edgy widget]

https://tenor.com/view/dwayne-johnson-jumanji-what-confused-thinking-gif-10685694

[clever belfry]

🪨

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/the-rock-rock-gif-21708339

add this emote name it roidstack

[fading sky]

plz do i miss the guy

[clever belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/waah-waa-sad-wah-waaah-gif-25875771

[inland chasm]

In ST opener, is it optimal to skip crushing blow and go Rampage-BB-Rampage when you have too much rage gen? Or do we just overcap rage?

[hallow sphinx]

[pure flint]

Means you're overproducing probably, I mean it's okay to overcap when you generate so much under Recklessness

Sometimes you generate so much when under Recklessness especially if you're like me, generating from crit Bloodthirst dot, Odyn's Fury, Ravager, Thunderous Roar and more

So sometimes the rage doesn't even consume anymore. So you can rampage into rampage

[gilded pawn]

You shouldn’t overcap

Cb and bb is more important than ramp again

[clever path]

@roidstack

https://tenor.com/view/crying-crying-meme-gif-26327776

[humble bramble]

hello, do we spread out using reck and avatar due to titans torment. and how does aoe operner look like with bladestorm ?

[pure flint]

Shouldn't spread out at all, you do use whirlwind but four stacks of whirlwind is expended in literal seconds

And honestly bladestorm is more pvp and pve imho

[humble bramble]

so we can macro reck and avatar together ?

[pure flint]

I mean you can, not that it would really be timed together

Recklessness (idk if this is talent or not) cd gets reduced with rage spent

[humble bramble]

only if you run AM tho, otherwise it should have the same cd ?

[young swan]

with titans torment, no. You can macro avatar and roar together if you're running titans torment but i'd recommend having a keybind for roar on its own as well

if you're playing AM or berserkers torment reck + avatar is prob fine

[humble bramble]

okay thanks

[pure flint]

Me when AoE moment and Roar hits for 2m total

[halcyon tulip]

is there any one handed build i could see? any youtube videos or something like that..

[mild ravine]

you sacrifice some better tallent for SMF. That's about it. I don't think there'll be any videos on that. There's that crazy mountain thane guy who's best friends with arch tho

[clever belfry]

cause we don't have the silly billy OF cdr tier its kinda fine rn

you dont really lose enough from using raw OF 2nd

[brittle crow]

we LOVE zhu yuan

[clever belfry]

she is so fucking boring i wont lie

[brittle crow]

i WILL NOT get zhu yuan i wont even get more ben ive only got 4 extra nicoles so far

please at least give me more ben ..

[clever belfry]

i had a lil

bencident

[brittle crow]

where do i see this screen

[clever belfry]

https://zzz.rng.moe/en/tracker

requires spooky powershell scraper script

[brittle crow]

bleh i cba

just know that my last 4 A ranks were nicole

the one and only time ill complain about rolling too many big boobie ladies in a gacha

like i feel like i should use her now but i dont have a team for her lol

[clever belfry]

just get zhu yuan

Nicole good for her.

[brittle crow]

its that easy...

[clever belfry]

💳 not gambling if you pay enough

[brittle crow]

and its a 50/50

[clever belfry]

bozo

[brittle crow]

i got shark instead!!

i shouldve saved..

[clever belfry]

i got both

just win 1 5050 and do all content

[brittle crow]

im not a hardcore gacha gamer like u i havent played in a while lol

[clever belfry]

then u get both

oh cmon don't call me hardcore

This is the second ever gacha ive even played

[brittle crow]

what i rly want is koleda but im not abt to spend polys on standard banner rolls for her ..

[clever belfry]

Yeah don't.

[brittle crow]

im just gonna become a professional soul hounds 3 player

[brittle crow]

oh

i just randomly pulled lycaon lol

i guess im leaning into the ice team

[clever belfry]

i really dont like hounds

[clever belfry]

same, was unhappy about it but he is good so bleh
powerlevel shit

[brittle crow]

i think he's rad i just dont want to say it in public

[clever belfry]

f word

(furry)

feel like i had to clarify this cause uh yeah

[brittle crow]

i got automodded for saying a different f word

rip

[clever belfry]

good

[brittle crow]

not even a bad one 😭 people say it here all the time

[clever belfry]

Ok don't know what u mean then

[brittle crow]

fuck

[clever belfry]

balls

i think it gets autod in some contexts

[brittle crow]

ok he does an absurd amount of daze actually wtf

[clever belfry]

wait until he finds out about qingyi

[brittle crow]

qingyi not ice tho

[clever belfry]

qingyi very fucking powerful tho

(won't pull for her)

[sullen dove]

https://i.redd.it/plw9posplggd1.gif

is this real or is this real

[brittle crow]

yea maybe i should pull for her after all..???

fury channel btw

help ive been sitting at 1000 battery charge cuz im too lazy to spend it and now i cant do all my dailies

[clever belfry]

furry channel

[brittle crow]

true...

[clever belfry]

? takes 5min

10x100

send on dennies (u need them at 50)

[brittle crow]

i only allowed to spend 80 at a time rn

[clever belfry]

noob

[brittle crow]

tru..

[sullen dove]

zzz sucks cuz no auto play L

i got r1 rina off standard and limited banner…

lightning element that sucks I think…

[brittle crow]

but she is the biggest

[sullen dove]

yea

she also zooms

[brittle crow]

so she is viable

simple as

[sullen dove]

I do like how diff characters move at diff speeds

Like if u try to sprint on Ben he moves forward like 2 inches

But rina just literally flies at Mach 5

[brittle crow]

shark super sprint

🥺

[sullen dove]

Yea that too

Shark epic

No furry for shark

very unfortunate

[brittle crow]

i have the shark furry Soukaku team.. i guess im locked in

time to save rolls for whoever that hot biker lady was in the trailer

[clever belfry]

U need to get a grip

auto play is cringe

[sullen dove]

i wouldn’t mind it if certain mobs didn’t have 8x more health than others

I don’t remember which they correspond but like there’s one of the lvl up materials that takes like 30s to clear

And then another takes like 2 minutes

[clever belfry]

idk anything not SD15+ or withering10+ falls over for me

[sullen dove]

The big fuckin juggernaut guys or whatever

[clever belfry]

Tbf im just missing S on SD17

[sullen dove]

Yea I mean my guys still lvl 40 I haven’t rly degen’d the game that much yet

[clever path]

Sanguine depths is back for TWW?

[brittle crow]

soukaku is weird idk how to even utilize her properly

[clever belfry]

not playing 40h in the first 3 days

[clever belfry]

yes

[clever path]

FUCK YEAH

[sullen dove]

[sullen dove]

?

[clever path]

My fav dg

[sullen dove]

crazy

[clever belfry]

Oh i got bad news

i just lied

[clever path]

..

[sullen dove]

lol

[clever belfry]

We aren't talking about wow

[clever path]

Well fuck you too then you sexy german lying ballsack

[sullen dove]

Oh I was wondering where he got sanguine from

lul

[clever path]

I got excited

and now i am depressed

[clever belfry]

SD is a decent key

[brittle crow]

sanguine depths goated

[clever path]

I haven't looked at dgs, i only know mists is back

and was apparently ruined

Oh yeah necrotic wake, can't wait for pugs to miss the hook over and over again

[brittle crow]

play priest

grip em

[clever path]

I'm not a nonce ty

[brittle crow]

doubt

[clever belfry]

u cant ruin a ruin

Mists was always bad

people just liked it cause wow easy weekly

[clever path]

That butterfly i would so love to just dropkick her in the face rip her wings off and burn them infront of her

[young swan]

[clever belfry]

you can still skip guessing game on her too

[hardy cargo]

[clever belfry]

hey xantager

[young swan]

helo

[warm crag]

hello xantager könig

[clever belfry]

Kaiser even

[brittle crow]

tager blazblue?

[clever belfry]

könig der Könige

[warm crag]

was he personally given the title by the pope?

[young swan]

so we're just speaking gibberish now

[warm crag]

true kaiser moment

[hardy cargo]

mans doesnt even know hes being called king

unfit for rule now

[young swan]

the only language i "know" is french

[clever belfry]

Americans being culture noobs ofc

[young swan]

and its not even real french

its quebec frencgh

[brittle crow]

doesnt know english..

[clever belfry]

Quebecois

real

[clever path]

I speak American badly

[young swan]

ive heard stories about Parisians getting mad about people speaking quebec french

kinda funny

Parisians just kinda get mad tho so

[summer quail]

I KNEW IT

[clever belfry]

LaCroissant

[clever path]

Isn't canadia french different to french french

[young swan]

yeah theres a lot of slang in it

[clever path]

Like Brazil and portoguese

[young swan]

a lot of montreal people speak like

"frenglish"

its weird

they just mix english in

[clever belfry]

I think portugese to Brazilian port is a fine comparison
from my. somewhat limited linguistic knowledge of these languages

[young swan]

its prob fine but i think quebec french and france french are closer

the real french are just snobs

[clever belfry]

me when i try to describe anything technical in german challenge

[young swan]

dont accept anything except the exact dialect they know

[clever path]

I just watched a video and I feel like he is speaking backwards and forwards at the same time

[young swan]

yeah pretty much

montreal french is fucking weird

but like

standard quebec french is very close

small differences

[clever path]

https://youtu.be/VkmzpsxLBdE?si=M072d-U_8eyfAexE&t=89 Like wtf

PAPA COMCOM SI LONGA ADDRFES PARIMITER TRE BIG

SHAQ ULTRA

[brittle crow]

jreg is an inspiration

[clever belfry]

montreal
mont real
m o n t real
m, not real

[young swan]

yep

exactly

[clever belfry]

I solved it

[young swan]

getting constant reminders that they are in fact real is mentally debilitating

[clever path]

Should I visit Canada? I wanted to but now I am scared that I cannot speak their language

[willow cradle]

Syrep des rasble

[willow cradle]

depends where you go but even in Quebec a good part of the population speak an adequate amount of english

[young swan]

theres a lot of nice places

most cities are very accomodating

[clever belfry]

just go to non French places

[young swan]

BC and the east cost are very nice

montreal is nice but being around the french sint

same with quebec city

[clever path]

Yeah I wanted to go near niagra and stuff

[young swan]

niagra is nice if you like casinos

and vineyards

they do have some really nice vineyards

[clever path]

True, All i have to do is take a train and I am in Paris

[willow cradle]

Just dont go to Alberta

[clever path]

Damn looks like spain on google

[young swan]

only go to alberta for skiing or the stampede

[clever path]

stampede?

[young swan]

yeah the entire province is basically just a big farm

so theres a stampede in calgary every year

basically just an excuse for people to get shitfaced in public

[clever path]

Oh just horses? I thought was like that place they run from a bull kinda stampede

[young swan]

i honestly have no idea what the event actually is

i just know it was taking place when I visited

[clever belfry]

u guys need excuses for that?

Loser country

[young swan]

unfortunately public drunkeness is still illegal here (at least to my knowledge)

theres exceptions for big events/holidays

[clever path]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMcP7tLODAA This is what I thought you meant lol

[clever belfry]

lol what

imagine not being legally allowed to be off your fucking rocker anywhere

[young swan]

maybe not public drunkeness

[clever belfry]

(not driving)

[young swan]

but u cant open carry drinks

or some shit

idk

[clever belfry]

???

[clever path]

Opposite to the UK, you can be on anything in public

[willow cradle]

What do you mean? God gives his tastiest beers to his drunkest drivers.

[clever path]

We have a literal hop festival where the whole town gets shitfaced

[young swan]

yeah idk dude this country doesnt know whether it wants to be european or american

also its prob diff per province

[sour frigate]

[clever belfry]

(do not be squidward)

[warm crag]

Love that pic so much

[clever belfry]

(sinner)

[warm crag]

I wonder what squidward said in the original picture before cropping

[sour frigate]

i was once but luckily no kids were there

[sour frigate]

Nword

[clever belfry]

hope u learned from it and won't do it again!

????

[sour frigate]

yeah

[young swan]

?

[warm crag]

It is not the n word!

[young swan]

yeah lets stop

[sour frigate]

i just almost dont drive anymore

[warm crag]

Please do not drive drunk!!

[sour frigate]

Nightwish

[clever path]

Do not drive under any substance

[clever belfry]

caffeine is a mind altering substance

[clever path]

I couldn't drive when I was on the antidepressant bipolar drugs

Prescriptions are crazy sometimes

[sour frigate]

quetiapine enjoyer?

[clever path]

Can't remember tbh

[sour frigate]

the drugs just make my mind.exe to not respond

[clever belfry]

Cant wait to khole while I'm driving

[clever path]

You would just wake up in heaven honestly

[sour frigate]

tf is khole

[clever path]

Or just be parked

Thinking 8 hours has passed when it was only 8 minutes

[sour frigate]

My average state

[clever belfry]

a state that can happen when you take ketamine

[sour frigate]

^^^^

as a surgeon i can approve

[clever belfry]

that's the k(et)-hole

[clever path]

Tried it once, won't try again, I am not 18 no more

[sour frigate]

smh its always a drug-related theme every chat i come rn

guildies were discussing it too few hours ago

and my friend

[clever belfry]

U problem

[sour frigate]

[clever path]

I was talking Doctor perscribed medication, but you guys made it weird

[sour frigate]

i eat diazepam rn but its so weird

its either no effect or makes me "dead"

[clever belfry]

doctors orders

(350mg mdma)

[sour frigate]

mda feels good

makes u chill

[clever path]

https://tenor.com/view/eyes-roll-back-ecstasy-black-woman-audience-melting-gif-15851603

[sour frigate]

u know what can be better

[clever path]

Ok enough before ban hammer

[clever belfry]

Legs

[sour frigate]

a huge sandwich with a ton of cheese

[clever path]

Big old red apple

[sour frigate]

ban axe

[clever belfry]

[clever path]

[sour frigate]

what is this

[clever path]

Thinking of that, why do americans call lynx bodyspray axe

And Europeans call Walkers Lays

[sour frigate]

what

[clever path]

It is true

[sour frigate]

im in eu and we have axe too

[clever path]

What

[sour frigate]

what the

i googled and walkers are lays chips

or what

im confused now

🦣

[sour frigate]

yeah

[clever path]

I want a bag of margarita

[sour frigate]

I want a brandy cola

[clever path]

I could actually kill for a rootbeer

I wanna try it

[sour frigate]

Fun fact i need to get up to work in 3 hrs yet sitting in pc

[clever path]

then have shower

[sour frigate]

wiki says its non-alco

[clever path]

Yeah i think it is like dandelion burdock

[sour frigate]

I dont have a lot of "gastronomic experience"

[clever path]

what

[sour frigate]

i mean i have no clue what is dandelion burdock

[sour frigate]

Looks like brandy cola

[clever path]

Tastes like grass and lavender

[young swan]

alright yappers

dms or move on

[sour frigate]

🦣 💨

[clever path]

🦣 💨

[tribal raven]

sir may i ask which talent we should use if we dont have tset from s3? still use talent from wowhead guide prepatch?

or some place we need to change

[rotund eagle]

You can use gear from pre patch to get tier I think

[clever belfry]

send prepatch guide talents

[rotund eagle]

So it’s pretty easy

[sour frigate]

i saw people run tenderize

for st build

[tribal raven]

oh i forgot its aoe talent i want to ask

[sour frigate]

i guess its bs then?

[clever path]

Wasn't it just S2 build? Rav and onslaught

[sour frigate]

#fury message

[clever path]

Oh nvm onslaught gone left now forgot about the tree change

[tribal raven]

ty brothers

[sour frigate]

and for aoe u put the execute talents into wws

[tribal raven]

❤️

ty for teaching

[sour frigate]

a guy i completed aa19 with today ran those

looked alright

[summer quail]

don't use wrath and fury, bugged no damage

[tribal raven]

[young swan]

talenting wrath and fury is -1 talent atm, yeah

[sour frigate]

isnt it for resets?

[young swan]

u have hns for resets

[summer quail]

nahh, resets portion is just a bonus. damage is what you care about

[young swan]

much more consistent

[sour frigate]

hmm

so i can put it into reck proc

[young swan]

VC is better

[sour frigate]

or hns

[young swan]

should be running hns all the time

[sour frigate]

im at 2p2 so i have 2 vc

why warrior always broken 🥲

[clever belfry]

VC gang (fuck BC)

[sour frigate]

titanic rage for sark pad

[clever path]

Fury getting fat nerf soon

[sour frigate]

🥲

[sour frigate]

vc moment

[spare otter]

Guys does tier set matter going into tww?

The gear just gets replaced right?

[sour frigate]

yes ull get 600+ gear from hm

[spare otter]

What's hm?

[sour frigate]

heroic

[spare otter]

Ohhh does the gear not get replaced by the story?

Or low level mythic dungeons

[sour frigate]

it will

[young swan]

not really, tier will prob get disabled at lvl 71, at that point ur just waiting for high level quest gear (78-80)

[sour frigate]

^

[spare otter]

Ok thanks

[sullen dove]

Typically if ur at max gear from last xpac yea doesn’t get replaced till last few levels

[spare otter]

Never played start of expac before so was a bit lost if I needed to prep tiersets or something lol

[young swan]

yeah not really

[sour frigate]

nah its a "fresh start"

[young swan]

u just care about high ilvl stuff

for faster leveling

even then it doesnt really matter

its gonna be marginal gains

[spare otter]

Alright good to know ty

[sullen dove]

my fav part about new expac is watching your 40%+ haste crumble to dust as u hit max lvl

and then u will never see more than 20% haste until a year later

[sour frigate]

oh no my haste collection ...

[sullen dove]

we goin s l o w

[young swan]

SL moment

[sour frigate]

^

i had a 50% crit fury in sl

s2

[sullen dove]

Fury in s2

[clever path]

Fury S2 was goated

[sour frigate]

Yeah

But 50% crit

[sullen dove]

[sour frigate]

Was like 20% worse than adequate build

[clever belfry]

pls stop mentioning that accused xpac

[sullen dove]

accused

what crimes did it commit

[sour frigate]

sl arms was awesome

[clever belfry]

add an r into it

[clever belfry]

was it though

(it wasn't)

[sour frigate]

season 2

with spear

banger

[young swan]

rng fiesta

slot machine

[clever belfry]

Was more fun with NF stomp in s2

[sour frigate]

signet enjoyer?

[young swan]

EB uptime mortal combo proccer

[clever belfry]

my EB procced 17 times m8

farmed

[sour frigate]

[young swan]

very good spec obviously

[clever belfry]

Had a pull on the nine with perma CS during 2 target

gapping the whole squad by 60%

[tribal raven]

i feel the power of rage when i just try to play fury in this expac, was playing rogue but rogue is tough this season and maybe also in need expac

[young swan]

omg anda buffed by pieces

got good rng

[tribal raven]

so much power for fury

[clever belfry]

(i quit retail the week after)

[sullen dove]

cocka

[clever belfry]

bolas

[sour frigate]

should also check fdk

☠️

[tribal raven]

frost dk wont survived in retails tww

[clever path]

Frost DK op

About time it got love

[clever belfry]

frost is propped up by prepatch stat values

[clever path]

True same for DF pre patch 😦

[sour frigate]

rocks in beta too

[clever belfry]

it's really not that insane at normal stats

[feral ivy]

yall think we going to get nerfed?

[sullen dove]

so what ur saying is frost scales better with stats

[clever belfry]

unlikely

[sullen dove]

[clever path]

Yup

[clever belfry]

s word

Silence

[sullen dove]

[clever belfry]

(but yes it kinda does)

[sour frigate]

i just waiting till ww is great agane

tww = the wind walker

its a sign

[clever path]

WW is good imo

[sour frigate]

not rn

[clever belfry]

throughout DF fury actually had the worst mainstat scaling of all dps specs

[sour frigate]

totally not rn

[clever path]

I'm doing good on it

[clever belfry]

this was due to us having 2 2h weps and them giving us lower multiplier to counteract extra str

[tribal raven]

fury is good rn

[clever belfry]

also why aug buff on fury was donkey ass

[clever path]

But atm I am feral enjoyer

[tribal raven]

and i think its good to be first spec to play in tww

[sour frigate]

was good with hurricane no?

[clever belfry]

meow meow

[tribal raven]

at least i love it, looks like another special outlaw to me

[clever path]

I actually got a raid spot as feral, imagine

[sour frigate]

right now the numbers are just bad

[clever belfry]

cause hurricane was a fuckton of stats

[sour frigate]

might be better in tww but it got nerfed recently

[clever belfry]

lol
tell em to get guardian or resto frfr

[clever path]

We have enough warriors so mines benched

Prot and arms

[sour frigate]

my rashok ww log

[clever path]

Ew

Sub looks bad

damn

[clever belfry]

obfuscated log L

[clever path]

So many BMs

delete them

[clever belfry]

like 3 people play rogue anymore

theyre more neglected than shaman somehow.

[clever path]

I swear people who play BM play classic at the same time picking flowers

[clever path]

sad

[sour frigate]

fury hm rashok log

[clever path]

I'm still mad i didn't get 100 on rashok

I got 2nd 😦

[sour frigate]

i dunno how its 100 i recall someone was bigger

maybe closed log

[clever path]

This was back in s2 tho

[sour frigate]

and look at this bm things

[clever path]

Yeah needs nerf

No 2 button spec should be top 5 dps change my mind

[sour frigate]

well its pre patch

no one cares

[clever path]

Yeah true

[sour frigate]

but arms

[covert blaze]

yours locked in before the new r1 got theirs

[remote yew]

Boys we are so back

[meager void]

never left

[lilac ingot]

Are tww sims/bis rdy yet?

[modest condor]

no

earliest you can expect them is the day before tww releases

[brittle crow]

SO wait

if we're using 2pc 2pc and AM, do we still prio rb over bt

or do we just use RA with 2pc 2pc

[covert blaze]

yes

[sullen dove]

or do we just use RA with 2pc 2pc

[covert blaze]

yeah idk why anyone would play AM

[sullen dove]

more bladestorm brrr

[misty oak]

how bad is single minded fury, like 5-10% decrease in dmg or like, way worse

[sullen dove]

but big bb crits too much dopamine

i mean u can sim that’s probably around the right range

losing leggo is def a huge part of that tho

so if u don’t have that less of a deal

[brittle crow]

im about to cook

[sullen dove]

[brittle crow]

make raging blow the first talent in the fury tree and make it a choice node with smf

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/the-rock-rock-gif-21708339

[brittle crow]

u can bake what annihilator used to be into it

ive saved smf

[sullen dove]

surely

[misty oak]

i feel like smf should just be a baseline thing you get, idk why you have to talent it lol

tbh they really just need to make 2hs xmoggable to 1h though

[modest condor]

smf is a baseline thing you get

the talent just gives you a buff while dual wielding 1h

[brittle crow]

reminder that fury could transmog LITERALLY EVERYTHING except daggers and wands i think!! in legion!!

[modest condor]

but it's not required

[brittle crow]

remember what they took from you!!

[modest condor]

you can dual wield 1h without the talent

[misty oak]

true but it's still a point you have to invest whereas titans grip you dont

[silk wharf]

I'm pretty sure mogs were type locked for the longest time because they kept claiming it was a weapon swing problem trying to make say, an axe, attack like a dagger.

[brittle crow]

idc about daggers

just let me mog 1handers

[silk wharf]

(rather than edit) Or a 2h swing like a 1h.

[brittle crow]

double 2handers use 1hander animations

[astral edge]

What spec has the least buttons to press? I'm playing on steamdeck so I want maximum Unga bunga rotation. Thanks.

[misty oak]

i think prot maybe? or fury. all of them are pretty low though

[edgy widget]

Arms and Fury are pretty comparable in # of keybinds, but I'd say probably Fury for ease of use, since you largely use the same abilities in the same general order between ST and MT, whereas Arms switches some stuff up

[silk wharf]

its not prot that's for sure.

[edgy widget]

you probably wanna macro some stuff though

[misty oak]

yeah now that i think about it prot has a shit ton of mitigations to spam besides the attacks

[halcyon tulip]

my stupid adhd ass thanks alot this guide

[cerulean grail]

They should have made interactive opener/rotation in functions of the build/talents. Doing only pure st or am is weird

[edgy widget]

I'm sure they'll improve over time, it's always kind of a learning curve

[covert blaze]

the guides are not 1 day old

the maxroll website is very good functionally for the other games usually

this is relevant for 2 more weeks anyway

[cerulean grail]

Its pretty baseline on icy veins/wowhead since many years 🤓

[covert blaze]

many years yeah

[halcyon tulip]

this is good because of this.. being able to see all the rotation in a line makes it easier for me to understand

[cerulean grail]

But its ok i guess, Always happy to read revvez content

[edgy widget]

Yeah the visual timeline is nice; personally I kinda hate them because it's a pain to redo every time something changes

and it's hard to write in caveats, if you're trying to be comprehensive (e.g. if you have Titan's Torment and/or/neither Titanic Rage)

[willow cradle]

It's funny how a simple change from vertical to horizontal and a lack of text can greatly improve someone's retention of the information. Brains are so weird lol.

[halcyon tulip]

kek

true

please send help

[edgy widget]

I know WH discussed coming up with a presentation like this, but they didn't wanna just do raw images because there's not a lot of expectation that writers will keep up with them very well (not to mention editing time/quality control)

so they were talking about making some kind of tool to do it in a uniform way, though I'm not sure if there's been any movement on that since

it is visually nice though, I very much agree

[halcyon tulip]

well it makes 100% easier for me to understand but if it's not practical for you who make our guides you need to stay where it's easier for you to keep doing your great work after all

[edgy widget]

that's the whole point to having multiple options though right? different people look for different things

[halcyon tulip]

true

[covert blaze]

that format is also very good for visualizing off gcd stuff, i remember it being good for ffxiv openers

[willow cradle]

Oh I'm curious about this now, is there an expectation of uniformity between the different class guides? Or is it a byproduct of the website's design?

[edgy widget]

hmm not sure what you mean, like presenting the same information between WH/IV/MR?

[willow cradle]

Oh no, specifically between the WH pages

IE the Arms page and Outlaw page

[edgy widget]

oh... I mean to a degree yes, they should be similarly laid out in order to make it easier for people interested in learning new specs

which isn't to say they're always exactly the same, but they should be pretty close - there are some differences though, like I use a Bloodmallet embed for trinkets, whereas some others (especially tanks/healers) make their own tiered breakdowns

for example, this is a new tool they came up with, and while it's pretty... I personally feel like it's over-engineered and redundant

I find this simple embed gives better information in a much more concise manner, without half as much work on my part

[compact knot]

both ways work, typically a explanation added is VERY beneficial though, like grieftorch doesnt sim high on bloodmallet, but is a very good trinket in certain circumstances

[edgy widget]

tbf I have an explanation of trinkets that really need it

[compact knot]

true

[edgy widget]

but not every trinket needs an explanation either, and adding one contributes to bloat

even if it's hidden under a toggle, it's still boat, it's still an extra click that may or may not even contain any worthwhile information

You know but all of these things are a give and take, right? This isn't an exact science and personal preference does play a role

[willow cradle]

I see what you mean, the attached numerical value Bloodmallet displays better distinguishes the difference between trinkets.

[edgy widget]

IMO yeah, the difference between "A" and "B" tier doesn't actually tell me anything of value; just a vague relative difference that's open to interpretation

[compact knot]

I mean why even include the c to d tiers

[edgy widget]

so in this regard, yeah the information may be presented differently between the two guides, but the overall layout remains more or less the same - you'll still find trinket info in the same spots

[willow cradle]

Although I gotta say the drop down for the explanation is really nice but that's mainly cause I'm a big fan of those types of space management/organization methods.

[edgy widget]

it is, I'm not hating on them for it; it's pretty and it's eye catching, which adds its own value

[clever path]

Tier lists are pmmeh

(For classes)

[willow cradle]

It's a form over function debacle at the end of the day lol

[edgy widget]

there's also an argument to be made that BM might not necessarily be practical for some classes; though I do tend to work closely with BM to make sure he's got updated profiles for each encounter type (ST, MT, etc)

the Grieftorch example is also valid, although never particularly impressive for Warriors, it's good to clarify where things may be better or worse than presented at first glance

[willow cradle]

Yeah, I don't think it's that big a downside. As a guideline it's good enough and any player who wants better than good enough will dig and eventually learn to use Sims and other optimization tools.

[west grail]

you know hte more i think about it

playin SMF. what loot spec do i set my selfl to lol

[halcyon tulip]

what?

[west grail]

im playing single minded fury

[halcyon tulip]

yes

i like that tho

[west grail]

if i run fury its gonna give me 2 handers

i need one handers

[halcyon tulip]

no

to drop 2 handers you need to put your loot to arms

and one handed weapon to fury

simple

[west grail]

seems a bit odd but okay lol

[halcyon tulip]

yeah

don't know why blizz don't change this already

they force us to play with two handed and don't fix the loot drop

[willow cradle]

Well as Fury you can get both, there's unfortunately no sure fire was to guarantee 1 handers without polluting the loot table

[clever path]

Won't change if SMF remains

Not a big deal to change loot to arms tho

[halcyon tulip]

i so new to fury war i don't even know what is my weakest talent supposed to be if i want to try smf

[halcyon tulip]

true

[clever path]

SMF is weaker than 2 2 handeds but tmog looks cool, Dagger warrior ftw

[halcyon tulip]

it feels more faster tho right?

[clever path]

can't get any faster but you lose dmg so not worth

[halcyon tulip]

:/

sad

anyway time to go

gn yall

cya

[covert blaze]

probably vicious contempt or bloodborne

[edgy widget]

you're misconstruing what he's saying; he was saying he wants 1hrs but doesn't want 2hrs, while Fury spec gives both

[edgy widget]

the only way to get only 1hrs on the loot table is to use Prot loot spec, but that obviously has other flaws (shields/tank trinkets); realistically, you would want to change your loot spec for each boss to maximize your chances of getting what you want

[west grail]

hmm i was thinking about that yea

as tidious as that will be buuuuut

you do what you gotta do

[brittle dock]

I mean, for right now in S4-prepatch just buy some with soup-cubes.

[edgy widget]

Yeah pretty much - the real issue is the vault since that M+ loot table is so wide, you're probably just going to have to bite the bullet and use Fury spec

because there are more shields and tank trinkets than 2h weapons, and if push comes to shove you always could use the 2hrs

[west grail]

i could

but im stuborn

stubborn

Thhanks for the info tho

[clever path]

Think I got too much

[calm swallow]

I hear this is good for us in prepatch?

[rotund steppe]

ah yes the poor man's vial of blood

[clever path]

Dunno if ashes better, no clue

2 min cd compared to 3

[young swan]

no

[covert blaze]

2 min doesn't align with warrior cds

the only good use case for ashes is speed kills in raid

[unreal onyx]

What is considered a „speed kill“?

Sub 2min?

[eternal sundial]

Sub 1 CD set

Ive seen normal at 35 sec

[covert blaze]

1:30 or less i would say

[unreal onyx]

We killed myth eranog in like 50s

54s to be exact

(In prepatch ofc)

[flat river]

we killed him in 30 seconds

skill issue

im 529 ilvl and need to upgrade an item one more time to be maxed out

but i still have 4 pieces of gear (chest, hands, helm, waist) that need to be mythic track :P

so technically not maxed out

but like

don't need to upgrade items anymore, just need items in general xD

im also 2.8k and tryna get my first 3k rating on m+ :D

do u think maybe wrath and fury isn't bugged and they just wanted to nerf fury until the expansion comes out

[covert blaze]

buff fury

[flat river]

not yet

after xpac starts

because if they buff now

they nerf later after fury busts

[covert blaze]

well no shit

[crisp prism]

actually you cooking something

[flat river]

https://tenor.com/view/dudu-cooking-dudu-bubu-cooking-fiveflavorfox-gif-16923887780720089734

[round sphinx]

How much of a single target lose would it be to drop champions spear tree for thunderous roar? Dont really enjoy spear, I have always found it to be quite annoying when tanks move mobs out of it.

[fickle bluff]

why

you dont need to stand in it

[brittle phoenix]

They cannot move mobs out of it beacuse it tethers them

[round sphinx]

does that tether work on raid bosses?

[covert blaze]

yes

[brittle phoenix]

Yeah

[round sphinx]

oh great, so I just need to hit the boss with the intial drop and then im good to go for the duration?

[brittle phoenix]

Even if the mob can move out it's still taking damage from the spear

[brittle phoenix]

Yep

[round sphinx]

ok perfect, thanks for the info

I always thought it acted like death and decay where you had to have the mob in it

[brittle phoenix]

Yeah it was an issue in the past becasue you had to stand in the spear so the movement was annoying

But that's not a thing anymore thankfully

[flat river]

nah spear chains boss fym

i used it on volcaross and terros and they didn't move

[hollow tree]

hey should i be spamming enrage as much as i can even over using up reckless abandon stacks?

[fickle bluff]

no you want to use your RA stacks before using rampage again

[hollow tree]

roger that, assuming this is both for st and aoe?

[brave totem]

i really miss First Strike from Shadowlands

that aftershock crit was insane

it felt good everytime

[flat river]

Real

Make it a node with spear

Also gives us 5 heroic leap charges

[brave totem]

hell yeah

[flat river]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-warrior-orc-pvp-pwnstarr-gif-20747634

[slim pollen]

That was insanely fun in the dunkmogu thing. Just grab the ball and boing boing boing across the map

[flat river]

Ok time to cook

New juggernaut rework

Juggernaut: rampage has a chance to make your next execute become condemn

Or to fix juggernaut

Just make it last the entire combat

Instead of on a timer

[covert blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/reallymad-emoji-shooting-gif-5828969802413475161

[unreal onyx]

stop him from cooking anything anymore

[flat river]

https://tenor.com/view/dudu-cooking-dudu-bubu-cooking-fiveflavorfox-gif-16923887780720089734

Why are you booing me

Im right

[radiant plank]

@young swan 7 day timeout for this for sure

[sour frigate]

Leaper moment

[flat river]

XD

I think next time will be a month

Since it was 1 day

Then 7

So hmm

1 hour left till work ends

https://tenor.com/view/sadgecry-sadge-cry-gif-18423674

[sullen dove]

Juggernaut lasts forever but u can only get 1 stack every minute

[hardy cargo]

I still got 6

[hardy cargo]

Lasts forever but only accumulates stacks on crits +crit chance + crit damage on stack

[sour frigate]

U can execute once but its 50mil damage

[sullen dove]

This sounds familiar

[flat river]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-gif-10271429305488134245

[dim meadow]

Was reading a guide and it said wrath and fury talent is bugged. Is it still bugged?

[flat river]

Yes

It's "bugged"

[dim meadow]

Ty

[eternal sundial]

Till archi says it's not

It's bugged

[dim meadow]

Truuuuu

[flat river]

REAL

[dim meadow]

Also. Avatar before thunderous roar or after?

[hardy cargo]

There will be a post made in #updates-midnight I’m sure

[hardy cargo]

B4, but as close together as possible

[dim meadow]

I thought so, just wonder why a guide is saying to use avatar after, like you don’t get that buffed thunderous roar

[hardy cargo]

U have enough time before odyns tick to press avatar then press roar w/o losing extra OF damage if that’s your concern

^according to silm

[hardy cargo]

Which guide? Wowhead has it correct

[drowsy iron]

Im in between projects gg

[rugged sail]

Avatar TR Bladstorm OF

Thats the order

[gusty compass]

Boys at this moment, what will probably be meta in pve content. Slayer or MT?

[pearl sequoia]

Slayer pretty sure

[dark frost]

Slayer looks so fun

[pulsar prawn]

slayer was by far superior on beta

and also more fun imo

[tribal raven]

brothers whats the different situation we should use uproar or 1 point Armor to the teeth

[dim meadow]

Maxroll. Just saw the Echo partnership so I thought id chime in

[hardy cargo]

Uproar if talking mplus you’d have to sin for raid but I doubt uproar is worth in raid

[tribal raven]

yes i forgot to say its about m+ again

[upbeat sentinel]

Warband rep system seems to have fucked a lot of people up

I randomly got the Bloodsail set in my mailbox which I’m p sure is from honored with them

[dense elbow]

You should get a lot of items that you earned on your multiple characters. I got a ton of mails with different items

[still berry]

yea jump on every char and use the Map in your toybox

[earnest topaz]

how is our ST dmg looking for m+ and in general? aoe wise i heard great things

[dark frost]

St is pretty good

Arms is better

For pre patch id sim with lower fight times

And keep in mind any spec of AOE added, fury will win

So pure ST like volc and nymue arms is ahead. Things with longer execute like fyrakk, arms will win

[rotund steppe]

so in short we reroll to dk

[dark frost]

Maybe for tww

Unholy looks fun af

But slayer and thane also look sick af

[earnest topaz]

im kind of afraid of us not being accepted into m+ once again

thats my biggest fear

[dense elbow]

Dont be scared, I gotten in all season on fury, for all the keys I aimed to get

Ppl who say "you never get in, waaah waaah" I put into the dirt every time - then they move the bar to a new scenario

dont fear, being a fury warrior will not be the reason you dont get into a key

[young swan]

if you're not gonna get into a key in tww it'll be because you're playing melee, not fury specifically

[earnest topaz]

thats encouraging to be frank

[earnest topaz]

yeah but i can live with that case ^^

[young swan]

every key is just gonna be the tri-wizard cup

[dense elbow]

Just focus on the fact: Fury not a problem, never been the problem, never will be the problem.

Then you will enjoy warrior a lot more

(other than legion, without legendaries, cause legion was special)

[coarse nest]

Fucking hell..

“Wizard cup”

[unreal onyx]

me when I apply to 18s with 2700 score

[coarse nest]

If that ain’t real

[sour frigate]

rogue hunt fury meta

[unreal onyx]

[young swan]

bold to not include monk

[sour frigate]

monk tanker

[young swan]

arent they kinda poopoo

[sour frigate]

looking huge

[young swan]

i know they do a lot of damage

but I thought they had problems living

[clever belfry]

mw

guardian

real

[young swan]

[final birch]

Warrior enha x

Maximize the buffs

[clever belfry]

enha perishes

unless they sit in wolf for half the fights

[final birch]

Have they not fixed sham defensives

Kinda cringe

[young swan]

they sort of have

but only really for raid

[final birch]

👎

[hardy cargo]

That’s ok they’re only there to give warrior wind fury anyhow

[clever belfry]

still don't think shaman can live high keys without externals

and melee men don't have that

except ret

but L

[still berry]

Enh has no defensives and do 1/3rd the damage of Warriors. Sadge

[hardy cargo]

Didn’t they give enha an extra defensive? I dunno what it is

But is it just not enough

Ig could also be extended to shaman in general not just enh

[clever belfry]

shaman CAN live

they just wont do damage

cause ghost wolf sim

[still berry]

Played Enh for like a decade and couldnt do it anymore this patch. So many binding for bad dps and no defensives

[final birch]

Yazma mustve been fun as sham

[clever belfry]

yazma kick change

good design blizzert

dungeon too easy on timer

how to fix?

Just make every pug wipe on last boss

[polar narwhal]

#updates-midnight message asks to leave a nice comment behind... where exactly do I do this? 😄

[final birch]

Idk it fucking sucks doing whole key and knowing the hard part is at the very end

I had a deathless key with pisston of time for yazma only to wipe 2 mins in

[clever belfry]

Its fine if hard part is at the end
but if its the only hard part?

nah

[final birch]

If u had someone/something baiting the juggernauts whole key was press W

[clever belfry]

? Just be on the bug spot

[final birch]

3 melees so its on healer to know

[still berry]

whats best way to ilevel up rn after i've got full 480 from echoes and wb? jump into normal raid?

[unreal onyx]

or spam m+ keys

[dense elbow]

gain 480 from the event, then do LFR for the 12 fragment thingies, that gets you to around 495 in a short timeframe. Then start doing HC/Mythic raids and +9 keys spam

[still berry]

lfr of the most recent raid ye?

[clever belfry]

all of the raids should be awakened in lfr

so they should drop the same ilvl

[dense elbow]

all the raids are awakened

[still berry]

ok sick. i skipped this xpac so I'll start from the top

[dense elbow]

hf

[still berry]

is there a point in me doing campaign quests that say another warband member have done this already

[clever belfry]

depends on the campaign i believe

some are still character unlocks, while others are acc wide

[brittle crow]

i think blizz should bring back kings rest again

for like the 4th time

actual banger dungeon

[dense elbow]

Geti'Ikku! Geti'Ikku!

[still berry]

should i be saving my flightstones+crests for a specific ilvl piece? i think my highest rn say they go up to 515 or 502 only

i think theres 525 though? im doing lfr rn

[clever belfry]

probably save it to buy ashkandur for bullions and upgrade that

[halcyon tulip]

i was thinking here..

why don't you use discord emojis to this?

- - etc etc...

[autumn halo]

Hey guys!

I'm learning fury right now, and one thing is not exactly clear to me:

Is the Improved Whirlwind/Meat Cleaver AOE centered around my or my target's position?

Because sometimes i'm not entirely sure why some mobs aren't hit by the aoe

[clever belfry]

you

[autumn halo]

awesome, thanks

[edgy widget]

I was talking about actual guides, like WH/IV, but we've discussed doing that for the upcoming TWW FAQ

There are some failure points though, lines of emojis tend to look nice on larger screens, but can be kind of jank on smaller ones

[halcyon tulip]

well true, cellphones could be a problem seeing this but don't know why not making both unless is stressful to you or anyone else doing this kinda of work..

[coarse nest]

Lines of emojis works great, if smaller screen is a concern adding > or - or whatever else between emojis makes them fit better as I’m sure you know.
I myself find memorizing the images of the abilities easier than text, when I’m training my muscle memory on a target dummy. I’m sure it’s similar for many others

[edgy widget]

I'm not saying we can't do both, but again - I was talking about written online guides at the time, not discord FAQs

[brittle dock]

could you put the horizontal list behind something like a spoiler tag for phones where it's easier to see things vertically?

[edgy widget]

the real issue with using images/emojis is that it they don't leave as much room for nuance

[halcyon tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/salute-point-smile-you-gif-16262743

[edgy widget]

which isn't to say they're not still useful, just that it's something to consider when working with them

[coarse nest]

In my personal discord I have all of the warrior abilities icons as emojis and I just make the openers myself out of emojis so I can glance over to them if I need to and or share it with a friend or whomever may want it here

Also other sources of information do it that way as well

Definitely a positive overall imo

[hallow tusk]

Never played melee (druid main since release I have messed around with feral but never end game content). I'm going to main warrior and was just wondering is it a huge loss to just bind all my 1.5 min CDs to one button as a new warrior?

[halcyon tulip]

you can also share this burden of making guides with someone else you trust to deal only with discord stuff, so it's not only you who deal with making less stressful to you

[coarse nest]

In general combing abilities is frowned upon because there may be scenarios where you want to send one and not the other

If you don’t really have the drive to push yourself to your limits and just want to casually play the class then by all means

[hallow tusk]

Understandable. As I'm leveling in TWW I should learn and be a lot more familiar with the rotation and skills.

[flat river]

ok let me cook

[unreal onyx]

pls no

[past pivot]

Opening an old can of Spam isn't "cooking". Same concept here.

[flat river]

ok

this time

BECAUSE I LIKE U uWu

[unreal onyx]

[flat river]

WASN'T MEANT TO BE CAPS

XD

goofy ahh keyboard

xD

kurog mythic btw

we have 3 BM hunbter

and 1 MM

[eternal sundial]

thats crazy low dam for all of u

tbh

[flat river]

first off

i dont have 2p 2p unlike mr 5 squares

2nd

i have 850 ping

[eternal sundial]

excuses

[edgy widget]

Yeah, I'm not against it at all - already been discussed as something to include in our own FAQs when the time comes

[eternal sundial]

excuses get better isp xd

[flat river]

we going dathea now we just killed council

[edgy widget]

this is always the biggest problem; maintaining all these things can be real time consuming and often a thankless task

[edgy widget]

are you still fighting council?

[flat river]

we just killed it

[edgy widget]

yeah but you're living 2000ms in the past

[flat river]

💀

[edgy widget]

you just pulled, they just killed it

[flat river]

tbf i heard the dbm boss kill sound when council had 7% left

[halcyon tulip]

and there's not a single soul to share this task?

[flat river]

if i reach 2.5k ill reshare

[flat river]

do u think they killed dathea and in my mind we havent pulled yet?

[meager void]

meh, ping casuals all around

you guys playing wow, I'm playing Age of Empires emailing my moves to the server

[flat river]

oh we killed dathea

somehow