fury

[dense elbow]

Ye, but tank will keep that with their 2mill opener ez

[sour frigate]

Not really

I died

[dense elbow]

should've waited 1 more global

[sour frigate]

[pure flint]

Stat prio?

[dense elbow]

Whatever the robot spews out as the answer

[brittle crow]

yea like my maghar niche of 10% mount speed that probably doesnt work w/ dragonriding

[dense elbow]

What is a maghar?

[brittle crow]

it lets me get up to 220% ground speed without being a DK or pally tho

so ig i cant complain

bis for warrior grounded mount speed

[brittle crow]

MAG'HAR ORC

[dense elbow]

Never seen one

[unreal onyx]

orc but brown

[dense elbow]

If it aint a nelf, my eyes do not perceive it

All just blorbs of humanlikemass

[brittle crow]

i perceived that tree when i burned it

[dense elbow]

too soon

[clever belfry]

https://i.imgur.com/lY2azLm.png

😔

[mossy fox]

andayyayayaya so strong

[unreal onyx]

AA with PI?

[summer quail]

I bet the hunter got the PI's

[unreal onyx]

are rogues good in prepatch? haven't played with any yet

[summer quail]

think they're okay, but rogue is very unpopular

[meager void]

both our rogues rerolled with the comment "it looks meh"

[unreal onyx]

oof

also, when does the season end? is it next week with event

or is it still going until tww actually launches

[summer quail]

our only rogue rerolled as well xD

[gleaming siren]

Such strong warrior

[clever belfry]

bracken

[clever belfry]

meow meow

play ravager in prepatch

BS is so bait

sending 2x 2set stacks on BTs dented af

[clever belfry]

50/50

but when i had them they werent on roar so largely irrelevant :3

[urban coral]

you mfs use patchwerk 1 boss 5 minutes for M+ right?

[unreal onyx]

with m+ build, yes

real

[covert blaze]

yes

[urban coral]

thanks dawg

[modest condor]

loboz build

[clever belfry]

loboz build

[covert blaze]

🧎‍♂️

roar - spear - rav - OS - OF

[unreal onyx]

noway, he is real

[clever belfry]

get ready to get farmed

@warm crag

[unreal onyx]

sadly not in my group

odd trinket choice

also no brood ring

[storm rapids]

hi guys, I try to find what change my bloodthirst into bloodbath, I see it happen when I use rampage but on my m+ build, it doens't change, I don't identified why.. I'm new with the fury ((was prot before)

[unreal onyx]

from the reckless abandon talent

[wary grove]

Some would say bad trinket choice

[storm rapids]

thx ^^

[warm crag]

NOOOOOOOO

[clever belfry]

lo🅱️oz

[storm rapids]

also for execute, it doesn't seems to do a lot of dmg (less than a bloodthirst), do we use it ? or do we use it only if anything else is available ?

[errant pond]

whats the best m+/aoe trink other than the fyrakk one

[light peak]

A friend said something about races playing a bigger role in war within. What alliance race would be the best choice for the war within?

feels like earthen would be good with the increased armor

[bold osprey]

Fury still not working properly? Or got it fixed?

[summer quail]

huh? fury has always worked, just a few bugs here and there. right now only wrath and fury is bugged

[crimson river]

Night elf, always

For damage probably human? There is 100% a sim for it somewhere

[daring hornet]

Pfft. Big orc daddy. 💅🏻 we zug n tug round here.

[unreal onyx]

going a specific race for dmg is ultra cringe

[next canopy]

anyone know last day you can get keystone conqueror etc?

[unreal onyx]

I asked that today before but I didn't really get an answer

[next canopy]

Great minds...

I decided last night meh why not do some keys and hit 2500...

Started at 0 IO last night lol

[unreal onyx]

with the state of fury that shouldn't be too hard

[next canopy]

It's easy just time consuming. I wish i never set the goal lol

[grim ingot]

which trinkets you suggest to run for M+ in prepatch?

[unreal onyx]

same as always

[grim ingot]

i tried augury in few and it did rly low dmg, so i was wondering if stat trinkets wont be better

[unreal onyx]

are you using 2p2p?

bc before prepatch my augury did like 7% avg, now it's like 2.5%

[sullen dove]

ya prolly cuz our dmg got buffed a shit ton and by comparison augury like stayed the same minus whatever small vers increase we got

[crisp prism]

tbh mine sometimes do 7.5 sometimes do 2.5

with 2-2

feels really inconsistent

[nocturne dragon]

Question for you guys doing 2p2p isn't that empowered BT got eaten by unhinged? I mean technically you want to spend it when it turned into BB right?

during the initial burst when you do all the big CD sequence.

[crisp prism]

i think it will always get eaten

[unreal onyx]

haven't really played 2p2p in ST yet

only in m+

but yes it does get eaten

[crisp prism]

for st you using ravager

you can kinda deny that

[nocturne dragon]

I mean if you rampage then CB then the rampage is not coming back up that empowered BT charge gonna get eaten by unhinged before it turned into BB?

let's just say it can't be helped?

[crisp prism]

tbh i usually get enough raging blow resets

to generate rage to use another rampage

[nocturne dragon]

before the charge got eaten? I see..

[crisp prism]

you mean during ravager window ?

[nocturne dragon]

yeah

[crisp prism]

you are combining it with reck

during reck you generate enough rage anyway

[atomic ginkgo]

guys we use 2 /2 tier set now?

[nocturne dragon]

well read the pin but also don't really bother by that. It's just 1 month left.

[sleek parrot]

fury is kinda op in pre patch

[unreal onyx]

suffering from success

too much dmg and ripping aggro with mid tanks

https://tenor.com/view/nariukiyo-dj-khaled-gif-23966368

[sleek parrot]

yeah constantly ripping aggro but this is the kind of tuning we need to be meta

[wintry sundial]

Warrior will never be meta unless they get better utility

[modest condor]

utility doesnt matter if you do the highest dps

[unreal onyx]

meta specs so far just had both

[wintry sundial]

That is only true if you're miles above other specs imo

Like right now yeah they're busted so it's fine to bring them but once they get nerfed (we all know it's coming) they're back to being mid at best.

[clever path]

Egg fried rice is actually fried egg mixed into rice

[unreal onyx]

you're telling me an egg fried that rice?

[clever path]

The egg is fried but the rice is not fried therefore it’s rice fried egg

[crisp prism]

For a melee to be meta it needs to be so ahead of the competition tbh

[unreal onyx]

DH was somewhat meta in S1 or SL

or ret

[clever path]

Monk META

[crisp prism]

all i remember from that season is balance druids

and mages

this is the s1 sl

[unreal onyx]

rogues were meta for quite some time

[crisp prism]

around that time shroud had massive value tho

what was the s2 sl affix doing

seems like most balanced season of m+

[sullen dove]

how are these people real

[polar narwhal]

they collect talents

not power

[buoyant elm]

More curious why didn't they pick the one to the left of sudden death

[humble plover]

Why u dissin my build

[sullen dove]

if this u u deserve to be called out for using a grand total of 25 abilities on magmorax

this man will singlehandedly buff us

[humble plover]

Ouch

Lfr? I hope

[sullen dove]

normal

[buoyant elm]

oof

[humble plover]

[buoyant elm]

he makes thunder clap look op

[sullen dove]

fr huge breakdown

bro is playing mountain thane at lvl 70

prepatch god

[buoyant elm]

haha

[humble plover]

Nah that ain't me. 30 ability minimum here

[polar narwhal]

nice

[polar narwhal]

I honestly usually tell them to check out the Wowhead guide, but the response I get back is mostly: NO SPEAK ENGLISH

[modest condor]

gigachad

[sullen dove]

strongest xeos build

[grave lark]

most sane smf build

[sullen dove]

(still using 2 2handers btw)

[willow cradle]

Look Ma I'm famous

(I wish I was that based)

[dapper goblet]

?

[sullen dove]

?

[brittle crow]

chad "ill make my own build" gamer vs "i use what's good" meta slave

[sullen dove]

real

[heady saffron]

quick q if anyone knows, will the legendary axe effect get disabled at 71 or 79?

in tww

[brittle crow]

prob 71?

historically speaking that makes sense

(i speak from 0 experience im guessing)

[heady saffron]

i assumed as much

wish theyd do like the panda cloak and draenor ring and let you use it till max lvl of the next xpac

[brittle crow]

tbh i forget to use lego rn so

it's just ilvl for me dawg

[young swan]

omg ceann-ar charger spotted

[dull spear]

Late to the party but I got this to work incase you haven't found a working macro.

#showtooltip /cancelaura Bladestorm /cast [known:227847] Bladestorm; [known:228920,@cursor] Ravager

[sullen dove]

holy

[sullen dove]

(mid-ar charger)

[pure flint]

What weapon enchant is still good?

[brittle crow]

sim yo self

[heady saffron]

finally 515+ in every slot still using the first things i crafted which im pretty sure arent that good anymore made lariat before the change and never bothered to swap and the vers bracers

[brittle crow]

nice hat

[heady saffron]

thanks :3

[paper ivy]

cant u have 2 essence ? :/

i wanted crit for arms and mastery for fury

i just bought another essence with bulions

and if i attune 1, the other ones auto atunes too

[sour frigate]

go vers suits both

[paper ivy]

what does blizzard do then? what is the point of having the whole bulion system for gearing if they can fix a simple thing like geating 2 different specs

[sour frigate]

the nickname btw 💪

[paper ivy]

yeah i have to do that

[sour frigate]

doing stupid monk rework for example

[brittle crow]

you watch ur tone

monk is goated now

[sour frigate]

u wot

its literally shittier version of ench

my rashok log btw

[brittle crow]

what do u mean ...

[sour frigate]

only need 150k to be on par with mediocre bm

[uneven dragon]

Is fury looking "good" in tww in terms of playstyle and stuff or is there any issues people are having

[bitter palm]

its good

[sour frigate]

looks good

[uneven dragon]

Huge ty

[sour frigate]

watched some stream wasnt like giga big in terms of dps

but alright

[uneven dragon]

And then i guess it's a question that's hard to really say but is warrior dps looking good enough to bring 2 to a raid

or is it still a bring 1 for buff logout scenario

[sour frigate]

Atm raid is huge

[young swan]

I think so

its close tho

and balance is fucked

[sour frigate]

Not sure if it will be without 2p2p

[bitter palm]

i think 1 fury is enough to blast adds

[uneven dragon]

yea thats kinda my issue i know balance is turbo fucked atm

[young swan]

arms is good

[bitter palm]

numbers wise

[sour frigate]

no

ARMS OWNS

[uneven dragon]

but i asked because i'm gonna be trialing for a new guild and they said "i can play what i want as long as i'm good" but usually in hof i just have a guild tell me what to play so i didnt know if warrior was good enough to play 2

so ty for the answers i appreciate it

[sour frigate]

[young swan]

okay if this is the standard you can definitely bring 2 warriors

I thought the question was more framed like

"will WF guilds bring 2 warriors"

[sour frigate]

ive seen some stream fragment from beta with fury having huge numbers but looked like add pad

and seen stream fragment from key where fury was worse than fdk and surv

🤷‍♀️

[young swan]

okay well fdk is the best/2nd best melee spec in the game

so

[brittle crow]

damn do i need to play dk

[bitter palm]

no it will get gutted

[brittle crow]

just like fury did...

[young swan]

too early to be making decisions like that based on balancing

[sour frigate]

1handers fdk so big literally smf we deserve

[wraith stump]

FOr AOE, do you want to use Bladestorm after Avatar? Same with Odyns Fury?

Or just make sure you're enraged

[hardy cargo]

U want the avatar buff for bladestorm ideally yes

Personally I reck- charge+ww-ramp-roar-ava+bs

[wraith stump]

Where does odyn's fury fit in? I know the talent allows it to give 4 stacks of WW buff, so do I just use it for that when enraged or do I try line it up with something?

[hardy cargo]

You want to press it within the roar window

It also enrages with the talent you are referencing

[young swan]

after BS

you can send a Ramp first if u like

[wraith stump]

So an ideal AOE opener would be something like:
Recklessness -> Charge -> WW -> Rampage -> Roar -> Avatar -> Bladestorm -> Odyn's Fury and then into regular rotation?

Or Roar after Avatar?

[young swan]

I dont think you reck -> charge

i think you charge -> reck

[modest condor]

after avatar but during the same gcd so you benefit from the roar buff on the odyn's fury dot

[young swan]

you dont need the extra rage from charge and you'd just be wasting time on reck

[modest condor]

charge >reck is only 70 rage, if your auto attacks miss you're fucked

oh wait whirlwind rage

yeah that's fine

[wraith stump]

AH gotcha, I always thought it was reckless then charge because it gives more rage

[modest condor]

depends on your talents

[wraith stump]

Ohhh I see why you odyn's fury after roar, because Roar increased damage of bleed effects by 30%

That makes sense

[modest condor]

yeah that's why you wanna roar during the same gcd as avatar as well

[wraith stump]

Can you just charge, recklessness and avatar at the same time? Avatar lasts 20 seconds so the rest of the opener would still fit. Or am I missing something

[modest condor]

you can if you're playing titanic rage but that's a surefire way to getting aggro and dying

unless you give the tank a couple of seconds to gather aggro

[fresh knoll]

can't play the full fury rotation if you don't rip aggro. Only way to get the release spirit option

[brittle crow]

can you do elemental invasions to level

and are the elemental invasion achieves account wide now

[wraith stump]

So really the only cooldown we have that can be used on cooldown is Odyn's fury in that M+ rotation, because all of the others should wait to be lined up for that big burst window again?

[modest condor]

i mean they're all 1.5 minutes so it's not like you're waiting for anything

[wraith stump]

Yeah that's fair 🥲

Having bladestorm is quite fun haha, but I haven't played fury in ages and now I'm trying to get the rotation and opener muscle memory back haha

[fiery thicket]

mine is pretty much the same, but a bit different, speced as AOE M+ with AM
Recklessness -> Charge -> WW -> Bloodthirst -> Rampage -> Roar -> Avatar -> Rampage -> Bladestorm -> Rampage -> Odyn's Fury

turbo heavy on the rampage usage, just tryna get cds back up asap

usually i try to have at least SOME rage before doing this sequence so I can not waste a global on bloodthirst

[wraith stump]

Yeah I tried AM last night but didn't really like that all my cooldowns were coming back at different timings

[fiery thicket]

just send it yolo

[modest condor]

there's no reason to use roar before avatar, you're just unnecessarily losing 20% damage on the initial hit of roar

[wind rose]

what is our enrage uptime percentage suppose to be at? i

i did 11 mins on the dummy and was at 96. feels like it drops every so often with nothing to press besides slam. dunno if thats misplay or just how it is

[modest condor]

no that can happen if you're unlucky

[quasi river]

time to learn to charge weave

[kindred swallow]

What talents are you guys using on the prepatch? I came back after a break and im completely lost lol

[nocturne dragon]

it's in the build or pinned I think

[unreal onyx]

Wowhead

[frozen berry]

Are the builds on Wowhead for those using 2p of old teir or does it not matter?

[eternal sundial]

Tier doesnt impact build

It just makes u do more dam

[wraith stump]

We use slam?

I've never even had that bound as fury 😬

[eternal sundial]

Now you will

[wind rose]

ig i dont understand what they changed to make us actually use slams now. even with arms its more prevalent

[wraith stump]

What is the reason to use it on fury? Wowhead doesn't show it in the rotation (although I haven't really looked at the ST rotation). But isn't it also a spender, wouldn't that rage just be better spent on rampage?

[eternal sundial]

UF/rb refund changes

[eternal sundial]

Slam does more dam than ww

If doesnt spend

[wraith stump]

Whaaaat? So it doesn't spend anymore?! That's pretty cool, so I imagine on pure ST fights you use slam instead of WW

Is that the only scenario it's used?

[eternal sundial]

Basically

[heavy sparrow]

Do you reck and then avatar or the opposite?

[eternal sundial]

Dont matter

[heavy sparrow]

Really?

I thought it did with torment

[eternal sundial]

A) you dont play that tormet

B) bug is fixed

[heavy sparrow]

So even if you were to play torment it still wouldn't matter?

[eternal sundial]

Exactly

[heavy sparrow]

I see, thanks

[bold osprey]

Do you Macro Recklessness to anything?

[dark frost]

I usually macro it to to ravagwr

But all of our cds line up now

[eternal sundial]

Nice reck charge goober

Non macro is just better idk

[night cedar]

Did they change fury? Pettko rated fury worse than the last week 😦

[sullen dove]

braindead youtubers when they make tierlists moment

[flat river]

no way

portals are account wide now

[sullen dove]

yea noticed that a bit ago

pretty coo

[dark frost]

What you mean by that

I reck rav the boss/pack and then charge

Does this weeks bullon quest give us 2 more or just a way to catch up

[gilded pawn]

Reck rav the boss means you potentially lose unhinged

Though it’s not consistent if that happens

Also you want those unhinged procs to be BBs

[frozen berry]

Oh god... lol, Fury might need a threat reduction...our burst is a bit wonky atm o.O

[gilded pawn]

So you technically want to reck charge avatar odyns rav

[dark frost]

If you time it correctly you can do all that with reck/rav together

Unhinged doesnt go off for like a global at least

And youre usually genning enough fury to send the empowered 2p bb by just spamming ramp

[frozen berry]

So what peeps opinion on going Slayer or Mt Thane as Fury? Both looks cool but I kinda am leaning towards Slayer for Fury as I'm planning on going Mt Thane as Prot. The whole Mt Thane/Moradin aesthetic from Warcraft 3/HotS is really cool though.

[dark frost]

Everyone will play what does more damage likely

Although i enjoy the idea of slayer

[frozen berry]

And I heard that Mt Thane leans a bit more towards Bloodthirst while Slayer leans a bit more Raging Blow?

[gilded pawn]

You are generating a ton of rage during rav

[dim meadow]

I can see Slayer being a good way to climb to M+ latter and raids, with Mt Thane being used on higher keys

[gilded pawn]

You would prefer rav eating up your bbs so you can cb-ramp-cb-ramp

While your rav takes care you your bbs

There was nothing wrong with macroing rav reck before but it’s slightly suboptimal now

[dark frost]

Ravager produces rage, reck goves more rage for everything else and ravager is sending BT/BB producing rage.

[gilded pawn]

Yes I know what fury does

[dark frost]

I dont think were disagreeing.

[covert blaze]

holy

huge

[dim meadow]

Major W

[unreal onyx]

They should delete aug in tww

But that’s just my opinion

[covert blaze]

farover alt account

@honest sundial

[warm gulch]

Just rework aug to tank, that's what everyone wanted anyways when they teased 3rd spec

[frozen berry]

THIS!

[unreal onyx]

Delete aug, introduce support warrior and make it op

Maybe we‘ll be meta then

[frozen berry]

Bannerlord warriro spec, think Conq Banner from SLs and such on steroids. And tons of shouts.

[unreal onyx]

Shout juggling

[flat river]

real

i woke up and opened my alt

and

all portals just appeared on my bar

[covert blaze]

single target shouts, 4 of them
fuck it make warrior melee affliction with shouts

[tender cairn]

make warr the reverse aug

[dark frost]

Dude yell warrior would be sick

[tender cairn]

instead of buffing allies u apply 999 debuffs by shouting at enemies

[dark frost]

Bres but it only lasts20 seconds and you get 100% damage and 100% haste

Call it berserker something or other

[gilded pawn]

seems like unholy thing

Rather lock someone at 1hp

And let them pop off

[flat river]

REALLLLL

fym bard class we need a yell class

and a warrior bandage class

warrior also should get combat res that acts like this

[flat river]

also

change back execute animation to red >:(

[cold nimbus]

Any idea from you best warrior fury why in m+ i have more rampage than an other fury warrior but making less dmg in overall ? Because everything else i have more dmg and more applications, but rampages more application but lesser dmg. Any idea what it could be ? Thanks a lot

[tender cairn]

using it more often without ww stacks?

or w/e

[cold nimbus]

ww and w/e ? Sorry not familiar with fury, don't understand the meaning 😦

[tender cairn]

whirlwind and whatever

[cold nimbus]

i always use rampage in the ww window, not sure it's the issue

[young swan]

rampage isnt always our best button

if you're running reckless abandon, crushing blow and bloodbath should take precedence over rampage

[cold nimbus]

Yes but, even if it's the case, i know he could do more dmg (That's not the case) the only abilitiy with more dmg is rampage

if it's a prio order problem i think he's supposed to do more dmg than me

but jsut rampage is better, others no

[young swan]

without more context its kinda impossible to judge

it could be any number of things

[cold nimbus]

i'll try to log it, thank you

[young swan]

the only thing I can think of that would influence that is if hes playing onslaught + tenderize or if you're not playing slaughtering strikes at all

[cold nimbus]

The log is here https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/rN1AnGmJFKkw8VvM#fight=6&type=summary thanks for the info i'll check it

[young swan]

which one are you

[cold nimbus]

Thewarwithus

And the other one don't have Onslaught + tenderize but his rampage explode mine

[cold nimbus]

Could it be powerful enrage talent ?

[young swan]

probably yeah

[cold nimbus]

weapons, more mastery and this talent i think af, thanks for helping

[bold osprey]

Do I pool BT until x% or just press it as soon as it gets BB

[unreal onyx]

Is non-buffed bb prio over ramp when gw is already applied to the target?

[young swan]

pretty sure u just slam it on cd

it does big dam

[unreal onyx]

Thats what I‘ve been doing

But that was more of a „button glow = button good“ moment, not me knowing the prio in every scenario

[flat river]

:D

[tacit hatch]

They ruined it when you can buy that shit in mop remix

[flat river]

yeah thats what i did

i grinded for 2 whole days man

[latent hedge]

ruined what

the 30 millionth garrosh xmog?

[gloomy loom]

I farmed em for years with 5 warriors and havent dropped once, so im happy now that we can buy almost for free

[tacit hatch]

So did i, placed 10 Chars outside that instance. Dropped after 1.5years

[summer quail]

yes, as long as you're enraged ofc

[tacit hatch]

Still ruins is.

[young swan]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[eternal sundial]

I have them and wont ever use them

So why would i care if it's the same for others

[tacit hatch]

I wont ever use them now when everyone got them😂

[covert blaze]

cause gatekeeping rng drops is cool
''i suffered, so should they'' looking ahh

[latent hedge]

29,999,999 users of garrosh mog now

[tacit hatch]

Yepp its insane😅

[latent hedge]

i dont think you got it

[pallid kelp]

so you never liked the tusks ? you just liked the fact that they were rare and thought it made you special

[lapis slate]

Oh boy

[tacit hatch]

I liked them, but now no.
If you se it to much its becomes booring

[crisp prism]

i mean this is an mmorpg

[lapis slate]

Hope you got rid of every mirror in your house lmao

[crisp prism]

rare = more neckbeard points

[eternal sundial]

Tusks fit like 4 mogs and thus i wont really use them

I might use them again with the wawi elite set for a bit

Seems like thatll work nicely

[tacit hatch]

Already only got 1 😂

[eternal sundial]

That's why im farming for EP shoulder

And zinrokh

[latent hedge]

the zaqool ones?

[eternal sundial]

Yep

They are actually usable for mog too unlike tusks

[latent hedge]

wait are those actually rare

[eternal sundial]

Yea

Well not tusk rare but you couldnt solo it for a long time and now you are doing a no skip weekly lockout

Which isnt ideal

[latent hedge]

I remember looting it when EP was current and was like cool this aint bis

[crisp prism]

i'm more like not farming anything at all anymore

positive side of that is my collection no longer chains me

[latent hedge]

I want the Xavius shoulders

[eternal sundial]

It should

[latent hedge]

still cant get those

[eternal sundial]

I am currently going for xavius illusion + EP shoulders + plebnaught 10 man gloves (30+ attempts deep Madge)

Which is still better than wanting a wb mount or so

[crisp prism]

ever since that drake came into a twitch drop i feel like i wasted my time

[latent hedge]

I'm just after Xavius shoulders and bfa tier mog, the collection changes made it so muc quicker. im just missing EP hands on normal

[eternal sundial]

The tcg one or

[crisp prism]

yeah tcg one

[eternal sundial]

Yea i got the entire hunter set from a single EP run on warrior

[eternal sundial]

But you cant farm that anyways so why care

Farm drops

[crisp prism]

i farmed stupid amount of gold for that

back in bfa

Also probably any rare stuff now will become a remix vendor reward in future

It takes away all the motivation

[latent hedge]

seems like you dont really want the item but the "prestige" of rng

[crisp prism]

like i said its an mmorpg

rare= more neckbeard points

You own a prestige item it becomes twitch drop for 1 hour watch time people get hyped and get it

no one ever uses it again

[latent hedge]

prestige from rng though is cringe, prestinge from achieving is cool

[crisp prism]

i mean i wouldn't mind prestige items tied to some hard achieves

not 1 hour watch time

lol

[latent hedge]

hasnt the twitch stuff been tcg stuff? idr if there was something else

[crisp prism]

yeah mostly tcg but tcg kinda meant spending gold cap +

before twitch drops

[latent hedge]

tcg items were dumb to begin with

this is from an owner of a swift speccy

[crisp prism]

yeah they were but just giving them away isnt really a fix

[latent hedge]

neither was the original idea of gating it behind a paywall

[crisp prism]

how i see that is in game economy

blizzard created the situation

economy revolved around that

i farmed lots of gold to get it and back in sl when subs dropped

it become watch reward

people got it and used for exactly 30 seconds

it lost all its rarity and i lost lots of gold

[latent hedge]

i mean it doesn't really matter that much how you see it when the original was IRL currency, plus they've already said that certain TCG items weren't gonna show up

so the market would just shift to around those

how are the tcg mounts that are twitch drops selling on the AH rn

[crisp prism]

Well all i'm saying is there isn't a '' i can't abandon my collection so i cant unsub '' element for me anymore

which existed before

[eternal sundial]

Unfortunate

[latent hedge]

i mean that's a pretty bad reason to stay subbed tbh.

[crisp prism]

Lots of people did that

[eternal sundial]

FOMO for mogs is a thing

[crisp prism]

xpac is dry and you still farm stuff

[eternal sundial]

Less so stuff going away but not getting new stuff

I always want the elite set

So i stay subbed to get it

[latent hedge]

I don't like the fomo armors being a thing; rather armor be obtainable and mounts/titles be the fomo

[crisp prism]

i mean in a perfect world make those artificially rare items achieve rewards

i wouldn't really mind that

Rewarding people for playing the game more

[latent hedge]

pvp honestly needs to be reined in with the fomo. armor/mount/multiple titles/weapons

compared to pve

[frosty scroll]

hows warrior looking rn? Saw peeps saying its doing stellar

[radiant plank]

stellar might be a bit of an overstatement ngl

[crisp prism]

Feels like solid A tier ish

[old ember]

In prepatch it’s doing stellar, but prepatch is not exactly well balanced

[frosty scroll]

fair point

[wraith hollow]

Hi guys, I'm new here and trying to get the best understanding on how to play fury optimally in TWW.
In the FAQ builds, the priority makes it seem like you can both use Ravager and Bladestorm in the same build, while my understanding is that you only choose one or the other?
Just asking just this is boggling me whats true.

[eternal sundial]

It's either of the 2

[wraith hollow]

Thanks, so when they mention them both in the same priority, is it just because the one mentioned first would be most optimal in the situation ?

[eternal sundial]

They behave the same just that bs is currently the aoe choice and rava the St one

Which can and will change

[candid zealot]

Is there any way I can get Season 3 set parts again now?

[wraith hollow]

Allright thanks for the clarification. Bladestorm seem to be the go to in pretty much all situations when we get hero talents? Or am i wrong about that.

[eternal sundial]

Nope

Beyond item restore

[eternal sundial]

Mountain thane isnt forced into bs

Slayer is

[wraith hollow]

Yea. was thinking bout slayer, just forgot to add that

[radiant knot]

fury goes a lil crazy in prepatch

[tacit hatch]

Same with arms

[uncut ferry]

Are you playing with season 3, 2 set bonus also?

[drowsy iron]

Well, most pvpers argue that there aren't any incentives to play

Unless you're good, which kills player count

[latent hedge]

Most PvPers would fail Special Ed then

Plenty of incentives.

[drowsy iron]

Bro made a joke from the 90s

Holy

[latent hedge]

And yet, it fits

[glad coyote]

my overall avg in a BH 17 last night was 1.2mil

[dense elbow]

BH is a ton of fun for sure - lashers carrying the day

[fair star]

Tf

[fair vale]

Bladestorm won't always align, but can be used on cooldown unless only a few seconds separates it from Odyn's Fury or Recklessness/Avatar.

why odyn's fury? what perk

[rotund steppe]

tbh when do you guys use bladestorm

[dense elbow]

Right after ava or OF

[fair vale]

does odyns fury increase dmg dealt or something

[dense elbow]

OF with TR grants you the stacks of WW you want, then OF grants avatar through TT for more dam amp

[fair vale]

can we chill with the abbreviations I'm new

[dense elbow]

Odyn's Fury with Titanic Rage grants you the stacks of WhirlWind (meatcleaver) you want, then Odyn's Fury grants avatar through titan's torment for more damage amplifications.

[fair vale]

Tyvm

[dense elbow]

Tells me not to abb, hits me with abb, fbm

[fair vale]

I noticed bladestorm consumes ww stacks. Should you always go into bladestorm with 4?

[fair vale]

I'm sure you know what tyvm stands for 😛

[dense elbow]

Yeah, it is the talent, unhinged, makes it so bladestorm casts two bloodthirsts during its baseline channel

[final birch]

U cast bs with ava anyway and you have x4 from titanic rage

[dense elbow]

If you play with Titanic Rage*

[final birch]

Isnt every1 in m+

[dense elbow]

I seen a lot with OF+OS

[fair vale]

Sick. Should I have 4 stacks no matter what before casting bladestorm? What if I have 2 for example? Is it a dps gain to refresh whirlwind from 2 to 4 stacks before popping bladestorm?

[late escarp]

So what’s the opening rotation on an aoe fight?

[fair vale]

In a situation where cooldowns misalign for example (no avatar/fury)

[dense elbow]

wait for tank to do his threat combo, meanwhile you just ww, rb/bt - then you go Ava-Roar-Storm-OF-Ramp-CB-BB-Ramp-CB and so on

[final birch]

Bs is 1:30, avatar is 1:30

Shouldn’t misalign

[fair vale]

Bladestorm has a shorter cd than those twp

Two

Thats beside the point

[dense elbow]

BS is bladestorm

[bitter palm]

slight aggro

issues

possible

[final birch]

Nope

What I do is

Charge avatar roar shadowmeld rampage bladestorm OF

[final birch]

If youre not nelf thats a skill issue

L

[fair vale]

Assuming no cds are up, is it always correct to refresh whirlwind to 4 stacks before bladestorm?

[dense elbow]

You want to do WW-Rampage-Storm

make sure you are enraged for the spin to win

[fair vale]

Oke

[dense elbow]

Titan Rage, from OF, enrages you

so dont worry too much about it

[fair vale]

I think bladestorm has a talent to extend enrage as well

[dense elbow]

you get extension from the BTs cast during BS, yep

[worthy quail]

I full send with a macro cause I’m lazy 🫠

[covert blaze]

it doesn't unless you're playing AM

[fair vale]

I think I had that on tww beta

[bitter palm]

yeah slayer

has built in cd

cdr*

[sour frigate]

didnt read dont care ravreck charge roaratar odynsfury

[dense elbow]

[quasi river]

ravreck charge roaratar shadowmeld odynsfury 😌

[sour frigate]

shadowmeld is for weebs

[dense elbow]

where storm?

[sour frigate]

i play nightborne

[hardy cargo]

Real

[hardy cargo]

Not real

[dense elbow]

Doesnt want to play Nelf, plays Nightborne (the nightelf mom said we got at home)

[sour frigate]

Gigareal

(before logs closed)

[covert blaze]

now filter for all damage

[unreal onyx]

I almost read the R8 as Roidstack

[hardy cargo]

My guild hasn’t raided in prepatch and I don’t think we will

And I cba pugging

[dense elbow]

[unreal onyx]

we'll do fyrakk and sark today

(and tindral since he was bugged)

[hardy cargo]

I think there will be a random mass internet outage in my area if I ever see tindral again on mythic

[dense elbow]

Oh for sure - Tindral was fun, but it became a bit too much of a good thing after 700 pulls

[unreal onyx]

killing tindral for the first time was propably the most satisfying kill this expansion

[dense elbow]

For me it had to be Sark I think

Tindral I was too bored to even be hype

[hardy cargo]

Sark was very fun to me, outside of the random dumbass private aura shit echo was really fun too imo

[covert blaze]

Is this aberrus

[summer quail]

tbf echo for melee is literally just waiting until ranged figure it out

[sour frigate]

yes

[covert blaze]

I need to do aberrus as fury still

[unreal onyx]

sark was fun but rather easy imo

by far the easiest last boss

[covert blaze]

I was testing arm

[unreal onyx]

fyrakk was also pretty rewarding but I was on business trip when my guild killed it for the first time

I was there from the beginning of prog but the last day I was not there

[radiant knot]

no, im wtill with s4 set, i deleted my s3 gear.

[sour frigate]

Just sucked in pug

[hardy cargo]

Yeah figuring out how many defensives they need when I reck rav their ass

[eternal sundial]

Do my last reclear for me

It's 4 bosses

[hardy cargo]

Ok pay for my eu xfer

[dense elbow]

Just accountshare like a normal person

[unreal onyx]

pug skill issue

just have good players

[covert blaze]

You can item restore

[hardy cargo]

Oh no while playing on his account he ran out of consume mid raid and I had to spend all of his gold on it!! don’t check mailbox

[eternal sundial]

All my gold

300k

[dense elbow]

did someone steal your cut?

[eternal sundial]

I just dont boost

[dense elbow]

but you get gold while doing your weekly keys

[radiant knot]

I dont care enough too

[eternal sundial]

I despise boosting keys and havent done a weekly in 2 months

As it's fully irrelevant for my gear

[dense elbow]

Fair, but when it is current content - it is such good extra value for your time tho

[eternal sundial]

I have to play with kazzakians

When i could play with guildmates or friends

[unreal onyx]

boosters are like 90% kazzak is also what I noticed

is that just a popular server

or why's that

[radiant plank]

smth smth iranians selling their gold for a living and kazzak being the middle east server

[eternal sundial]

Ye

Lmao

[hardy cargo]

Sounds like I’m about to double my gold

[unreal onyx]

I wish I could play wow for a living and mindlessly spam 8s

[eternal sundial]

That is infintely worse than my job

[unreal onyx]

depends what your job is

[radiant plank]

Bro they have like 300 kills per hc boss per season

on top like 1.5k keys

its not mentally stable job

[unreal onyx]

just pay some chinese bot farm 20% of your income to do it for you then

+80% profit for not doing anything

[unreal onyx]

that's 21 kills per week

3 per day

that's doable if you can do the entire raid in like 1h

[radiant plank]

big if

[eternal sundial]

Their raids are shit and take 1,5+h

[unreal onyx]

bruh

[hardy cargo]

Playing wow for a living would have to pay a shit ton of cash for me to even consider it

Fearing a billion copies of one class every tier, killing bosses over and over and spamming the shit out of keys for not much money no thanks

[unreal onyx]

only boosting I did so far was keys I would've done anyway

aka weeklies and maybe some hc raid

[coarse nest]

Doings 8s for 8 hours a day sounds pretty rough tbh

[hardy cargo]

It sounds rough if you aren’t making good cash doing it

But if you could make gold cap doing it for a week everyone would do it

[coarse nest]

I could see boosting title keys as a fun job

But I don’t do title keys

[hardy cargo]

Obviously that’s a conflation of the point but you get what I’m tryna say

[coarse nest]

True

[unreal onyx]

title key boosing is like the tippy top of boosting I would assume

[eternal sundial]

But then you have to be good

Which disqualifies most boosters

[coarse nest]

Hittem where it hurts

[hardy cargo]

Most of the time boosting weekly keys is ok but every once in awhile

[wild mural]

99% of boosters are people who got like 2.8 or 3k and think they’re the dogs bollocks

And they’re actually just trash

And can barely even boost a weekly

[eternal sundial]

Especially those in raids

Barely gets 90s

[wild mural]

Oh yeah

[eternal sundial]

After 20 attempts

Hooly fuck they are so trash 99% of the time

[wild mural]

Tbf I’ve had better experiences with raid boosters than M+

[eternal sundial]

Raid is fine if u know the grp ye

I did boost with guild and it was piss free

[wild mural]

Ofc

Every raid boost I’ve done was free

Like 6-7 of them across DF

Maybe I just got lucky

But I remember in one run in S1 we had like 7 people parsing straight 99s

(I got 1 98 so get fucked loser)

[fair cave]

What would be a good trinket to buy with bullion besides augury and for m+ only?

[pure flint]

Is grand hunt worth doing for alt gearing?

[unreal onyx]

signet if you can keep up stacks

[hardy cargo]

I went with chromatic essence

[unreal onyx]

or pips

[hardy shuttle]

I've been running oce and rageheart which I macroed to avatar. For..... reasons

[flat river]

thats...

smart actually

[hardy shuttle]

It healed like 50m over a 18 uld

Kinda bonkers

[flat river]

what's oce again?

[hardy shuttle]

It did around 2% overall damage. And got me to 40% vers which with the shield made me feel unkillable

Chromatic essence

[flat river]

ah

wb augry

[hardy shuttle]

I had 4 buffs so I went one. Probably augury better with less

[flat river]

[hardy shuttle]

Went oce*

[flat river]

in m+ i got augry and council trinket

icon

[sour frigate]

And what's ur overall

[flat river]

maybe time to play with rageheart

[hardy shuttle]

It was like 910k overall with an Aug who was dead the whole key

Dps* idk dam I can check when I'm home from work

But it was the comfiest I've felt all week

Just checked and it wasn't logged. Rip

[silent narwhal]

Hey could someone potentially send their talent load out for ST now that the talents have changed?

[unreal onyx]

wowhead

[glad coyote]

any wowhead articles yet for the proff concentrate stuff?

[clever path]

Is wrath and fury still bugged?

[silent narwhal]

TY! didnt know if it had updated

[dark frost]

Until archi pings the server saying otherwise. Yes

[clever path]

okie dokie

[thorny cove]

what are bis mythic+ trinks? oce and icon?

[dark frost]

People have used ashes, augury, and puzzlebox

Likely puzzlebox augury

Call to chaos and augury if you want brain off

Oce is good if the other players in your group are using

[thorny cove]

did prepatch change what's best?

[dark frost]

Not really

Check warcraft logs

[thorny cove]

oh does it change based off how high of a key you are doing? cuz I know noxiv been using icon for like the whole season

[modest condor]

tbf noxiv also plays without nameplate addon and barely any weakauras

not all his decisions are the best choice

[thorny cove]

fair 🤣

[buoyant elm]

I'm having a ton of fun with fragment

seen some top rankers using it too

[modest condor]

icon is good if your tank and healer also play it

but otherwise it's not worth

[thorny cove]

ahh didn't take that into consideration that's a good point

[dense elbow]

Generally speaking, the Aug dam effect kinda became worse, as our basedamage went up.

If you want to have fun, fragment is so much fun. Then just slap on an OCE for some more stats

[buoyant elm]

Yeah definitely, I'm simming higher with signet brand but I recommend people give fragment a try

Your burst is something else with it

[dense elbow]

Just hits those dopamine receptors differently

[buoyant elm]

++

[modest condor]

i got myth track fragment from my vault last week, replaced my hero track puzzlebox

[dense elbow]

[hardy shuttle]

Rageheart value seems pretty big in high keys. Been running it with OCE. Just macroed it to avatar to keep me safe from the mobs I inevitably pull.

[thorny cove]

I'm not a puzzle box fan even tho the stats justify the 3 min just feels awful only being able to use half the time as a 1.5 min trink

[hardy shuttle]

But I only started doing it above 17s

[modest condor]

how much of your damage is ragehart?

[hardy shuttle]

Like 2% in an 18 uld

Idk what my damage was but it was 910k dps

Healed for 50m

[modest condor]

not that impressive damage but i guess with how much dps we're doing it's not really needed either, and that's a lot of healing

[hardy shuttle]

It was like my leach, ring, cshb, and bt combined

Also got me to like 42% vers which made me feel like a God

[thorny cove]

man it feels so weird to pve again haven't pve'd since like 3rd week of S4 🤣

need to hurry and finish my portals

[hardy shuttle]

Granted, I never simmed my oce after putting on the rage heart. So maybe it would've been better as a different stat than vers. But it felt so comfy. We did the whole last boss with the healer and Aug dead for 60% of it

[glad coyote]

careful you might be made fun of for using rageheart

[hardy shuttle]

I'll just make fun of them for having to hold cds while waiting on tank threat

[thorny cove]

so is AM not good anymore

[hardy cargo]

RA better

[thorny cove]

[hardy cargo]

RA feels good imo

45sec odyns+roar goes hard

[thorny cove]

I know but I like reduced cd

[hardy cargo]

U can play AM

But it desyncs really easily

And doesn’t feel that great

[glad coyote]

AM feels great in M+ as you always have reck+BS up for the next pack

[hardy cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/dbz-discord-gif-24306382

P sure they’re fine @thorny cove

Only smth fucky with talents

#updates-midnight

[unreal onyx]

finally a worthy rank

[hardy shuttle]

I thought the same on dathea then checked and a priest PIed me twice

[hardy shuttle]

But we subtract BM hunters from the equation

[unreal onyx]

best BM is R9

fury is cranking on brood adds

propably like 1/3rd of top100 logs are fury

[hardy shuttle]

I meant on mine. 2nd place if no hunters

But my priest ruined it

[unreal onyx]

96/100 top100 logs on terros are BM

[hardy shuttle]

Depression

I wasn't in on like any of the fights with add in vault. We just did 1 fyrakk sale then a few voti bosses for a few peoples portals

[modest condor]

@honest sundial padder

[unreal onyx]

we're doing rasz now

apparently it's bugged too and just falls over in p3 when a tornado touches her

alledgedly

[eternal sundial]

Obliterated by farover

Shame

[thorny cove]

never used OCE before do you just use obsidian resonance for all stats?

[unreal onyx]

farover is a force to be reckoned with

I couldn't even step into his shadow

[sullen dove]

padover

[unreal onyx]

it's not padding if you are team adds

[dense elbow]

adds gotta die!

[hardy shuttle]

It's a ST increase to the raid if you do so much pad that one extra person can go on the boss group.

[unreal onyx]

love me a good rasz i2 wipe

fury paddington king

[honest sundial]

apparently got beaten 2 days later by bm with PI

[edgy widget]

seems arguing different points

First guy is talking about killing the boss quickly
Second guy is complaining about Fury, but Fury is only good on Eranog because of instant AoE burst and doesn't do anything to help kill the boss faster

[honest sundial]

oh it's just a SS guildie sent me and i didn't bother reading what that guy wrote
was more about the fact that people see hunters broken and then witness fury's burst potential

what obviously is completely irrelevant as these ranks are

[unreal onyx]

fury pad good?

[crisp prism]

adds need to die 📈

[unreal onyx]

that's what RL called

so I did exactly that

also P3 is bugged so it#s basically over after i2

[dense elbow]

Smart RL

[crisp prism]

if they dont require us to pad why do adds exist

[unreal onyx]

decent enough for first kills in prepatch

now tindral and fyrakk time

surely they are not bugged anymore

[sour frigate]

Actual gaming

[polar narwhal]

Burst into Release Spirit.

5 seconds of gameplay.

👍

[eternal sundial]

i am sure many people are playing prepatch raid that doesnt give a mount

[unreal onyx]

yup

dathea has 70 fury logs

compared to 60 rasz

[crisp prism]

ngl 2 weeks ago i was having easier time to form m+ groups in beta then live atm 😄

literally no tanks are playing

[unreal onyx]

tanks are very scarce

[sour frigate]

3-4 releases if u play it in azure vault

[low violet]

is 2/2 piece ahead of season 4 4 piece?

[unreal onyx]

it appears so

[polar narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/bruce-banner-big-monster-thor-ragnarok-hulk-gif-11571578

[upbeat plume]

Its in the pins, season 4 (and season 2) 4pc was pretty much dogshit then and now

[mortal shard]

Is there a build for fresh Fury warriors who don't have T set yet ? 😄

Or does it really matter ?

[edgy widget]

multitarget doesn't really change

[edgy widget]

but if you want a very cursed ST build, you can run this

with Spear & Berserker's Torment

[next canopy]

Great vid @mossy fox 🏆

[topaz wolf]

Forgive the stupid question, as I've been away for several months, but is there a way to get S3 Tier at this point? I think I deleted all of mine after getting S4 Tier and I'm not sure how to get the 2pc again.

[glad coyote]

the difference isnt to much and since theres no m+ season its pointless imo

but you can still catalyst the gear to get season 3

[topaz wolf]

Alright, thanks.

[thorny cove]

feels gross that 2p tier from S3 is better than 4 piece

reminds me of legion when I had a low ilvl arcanocrystal and it was still miles ahead of all my other trinkets

[cursive quiver]

or a low ilvl convergence of fates

that trinket was fucking wack

[dusty blaze]

Hello, where can one look for talent choice for Fury in here?

[red berry]

idk i loved s3 2piece so im happy its back

[next canopy]

The work you do is insane. Just finished reading all the wowhead stuff. Thanks bro @edgy widget🏆

[dark frost]

anyone know why youd take BS over Ravager in ST or small cleave fights

faster damage?

[dark frost]

Rocked a 905 ilvl convergence to the end. Luckily had amanthuls to pair.

[dense elbow]

Better late than never, go into the pins; or just googlesearch "wowhead fury warrior talents" and you will find it

Str dagger

It is time

[warm crag]

finally

[dense elbow]

SMF LETS GO

[chilly fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/wolverine-logan-deadpool-and-wolverine-lets-fucking-go-marvel-gif-5439325371406966485

[thorny cove]

smf is gonna be meta in TWW? ewww

[young swan]

no

lol

[thorny cove]

ok phew

how can I compensate irl if I dont duel wield two handers in a video game

[sinful spoke]

oh man

lemme show u pad

fiery vines dmg

god

[hardy shuttle]

igira spears

[slim pollen]

Not unique-equip 👀

[dense elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-pissed-gif-24224622

[pearl sequoia]

Bladestorming with daggers would be hard

Become a spikey frisbe

[meager void]

anyone know if this was for all recipients or just the shaman?

[covert blaze]

I would assume all

[south kraken]

Saw wowhead mention a lower apm build? Is that just a meme?

[thorny cove]

did I just get a bad group or what lol?... https://i.imgur.com/pzoYwKp.png 11 brack

like the priest and lock were geared too 519 priest and 526 lock idk

[compact knot]

when will they unfuck wrath and fury

[covert blaze]

powerful enrage probably

[young swan]

nope

powerful enrage is epic

[brittle crow]

we hate powerful enrage

[south kraken]

How do I find that build?

[covert blaze]

just swap frenzied enraged with powerful enrage

[young swan]

literally just turns fury back into legion fury

its sick

big fan

[brittle crow]

give me haste or give me death

[edgy widget]

Someone who is EU, please go check if the pre-patch event is up (on live)

[hardy cargo]

was powerful or frenzied enraged better in aoe?

powerful right

[young swan]

yar

[hardy cargo]

ty gamer

[modest condor]

i think this counts as a yes

[edgy widget]

yeah, blizz screwed up and pushed it early; I just confirmed on TW too

[fickle bluff]

surely they leave it on

[mild ravine]

so, w can just go to northrend and get it on?

[fickle bluff]

its not always in northrend, but yeah

[modest condor]

the game is unplayably laggy tho

[fickle bluff]

huh its fine for me

[modest condor]

im having 2k ms ping

[fickle bluff]

🙏 someone else sees the vision

[sour tundra]

Why do they need to do maintenance when they can just flip a switch and activate the pre patch event lol

[fickle bluff]

prepatch event has been disabled

[edgy widget]

Yeah I saw

timezones are of one blizz' archenemies

[brittle crow]

this is why we should get rid of europe

[hollow tree]

hey when using recklessness, avatar, roar and bladestorm should any of them be macro'd together?

[brittle crow]

no because u want to press them at slightly diff times

[hollow tree]

aight ty seemed to good to be true they were all same cd

[slim coral]

Does blizzard keep someone in the office 24/7?

[brittle crow]

and also u cant macro roar and bladestorm together

[slim coral]

To fix when stuff pushes too early

[brittle crow]

since theyre on the gcd

[hollow tree]

i see tyty

starting to think im picking up the wrong class after having read ur name

[covert blaze]

fury owns

fruit known troll

[sour tundra]

Probably have someone on call and they can remotely work on things from home.

[covert blaze]

[sullen dove]

rogue swine is clueless

[hollow tree]

good to hear, is it getting much better/worse in tww?

[junior dock]

can you catalyst boes ?

[young swan]

id argue better

[covert blaze]

better imo

[dense elbow]

^

[dark frost]

[gentle walrus]

It can only go up from S4!

[compact knot]

FUCK WARLOCKS

[grand gazelle]

are we just insanely broken right now? 2pc 2pc is not fair

[feral quartz]

if we using s4 4pc we crushing blow before bloodbath to buff it with bloodcraze? or bb first then cb?

[unreal onyx]

Clueless rogue

He should get up to date with fury lore

[covert blaze]

they hate us cause they ain't us

[compact knot]

what pushed piercing verdict to be a good talent now instead of just 2/2 crit? Im not entirely sure if spear got buffs or not.

[young swan]

the 50% damage got applied to all of spear rather than just the dot

or was it just the impact

cant remember but it only used to benefit half of spears damage

[fickle bluff]

was just the impact, now whole thing

[elder granite]

8 AA

[dark frost]

you love to see it

fury FUCKs

[flat river]

I mean if u say so

unzips

[compact knot]

tbh the incubus can get it

[nocturne dragon]

I think it's CB first for sure to add more crit chance, you can even CB then RB to add more before BB ing?

[still swift]

cb rb bb this

[covert blaze]

[nocturne dragon]

[flat river]

What trinkets do u guys use for MT?

I use augry and icon

[covert blaze]

in raid or what

[flat river]

Mythic+

[dark frost]

For keys i check if people are using OCE and use OCE/aug. if they arent using OCE i use nelths call and aug

[flat river]

Raid i use signet and augry

[dark frost]

Signet isnt good for anyone but like fyrakk and thats arguable at thisnpoint

[flat river]

I know anvil is stronger

But signet is passive so idgf

[dark frost]

No anvil isnt even stronger

They take too long to ramp

[flat river]

What is stronger then

Icon?

Since raid everyone has it prolly

[dark frost]

Any fight under 4 min, oce/icon/aug or puzzle box will win

[flat river]

Ok wb m+

[dark frost]

Check if youre group has oce, if they do use oce/aug. if they dont use puzzlebox/ashes/callto chaos and aug

[flat river]

I always use aug

Im talking about secondary trink

I always use icon

[night cedar]

Bro

Wtf

[dark frost]

I just laid them out for you

[flat river]

Ok blike

Im a warrior player and smol brain

[dark frost]

So re read