#fury

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flat river
white relic
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i the 2/2 dream "over"? 4 p on ST does more. or raidbots not up to date?

still swift
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galabonk

unreal onyx
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Soooo when is aug getting deleted?

elder mulch
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Hey ! how can i restore my S3 tier ?

mint marsh
tender seal
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Remember you can restore multiple pieces at a time.

coarse lion
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click on multiple items

mint hound
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how does the fury opener look like in m+ with this build?

clever belfry
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bladestorm ew

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get a grip

honest sundial
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Aug = ^

clever belfry
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All this hate for augs when warlocks and mages have been right there for 20 years

clever belfry
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Magicians are at fault for all our woes

thorny violet
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Does fury has a hard cap on any stat?

clever belfry
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100% crit šŸ˜Ž

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(technically you can reach hard capped drs, but do not worry about any of that just ask the robot overlord)

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(also not technically on retail, just remix as it is=

iron leaf
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is augury doodoo now?

clever belfry
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its fine

silk wharf
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is the crit cap still like 102% and some change or is that a boomer thing?

clever belfry
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Boomer cope

silk wharf
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hehe

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I feel so old now. Theres a person in my raid group that was born after 2000

clever belfry
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.8% crit suppression per level difference

red berry
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because I turned 29 this year

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and if you tell me that’s boomer I will blow up

silk wharf
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lol

clever belfry
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boomer

covert blaze
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i'm gonna guess 24-25

clever belfry
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bro

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im turning 27 soon

stiff barn
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Young whipper snapper

radiant plank
oblique trail
vocal igloo
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is there some proper way to macro spear/avatar to maximize titan's torment (odyn's fury) ?

clever belfry
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Bro...

eternal sundial
tacit hatch
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youngling

tall turret
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33 šŸ‘“

tacit hatch
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Same

mossy fox
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31 warrior

hardy cargo
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Holy fucking boomer alert

mossy fox
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old and slow

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falling off a cliff

harsh bobcat
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WoW is the internet boomer retirement home anyway

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Cuz where else are ya gonna go

warped bone
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33 here also Sumjons. Aint it awful how all joins ache when the weather is cold? šŸ‘“

warped bone
next canopy
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38 but I parse 99 šŸ’ŖšŸ½

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To put it in perspective… last night was raining so I stayed in and played WoW with my 8 year old son…

sullen basin
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does that mean after i hit 30 ill finally be good

warped bone
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Naa i used to be good Bova. Hit 30. Now I'm a blue boi

stiff barn
faint whale
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im 27

next canopy
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WoW has a pretty high age group overall I’d say.

The youth nowadays play Fortnite

sudden tusk
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playing with powerful enrage feels like im lagging

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its weirge

next canopy
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That’s why they tried out plunderstorm. It’s a Fortnite knock off

mossy fox
clever belfry
flat river
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huh weird

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raidbots says 2p 2p worst than 4p for me

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but when i try on dummies

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2p 2p better

clever belfry
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dummies surely a good test

warped bone
# mossy fox perma afflicted

This is the issue i have with low haste arms. It just feels so odd. Think I'll take my DPS loss and stay a mix of crit/haste in pre-patch content instead of high Crit low haste

flat river
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xD

clever belfry
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Your judgement

stiff barn
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Judgement? We paladins now?

warped bone
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Judgement get 10k mastery so every judgment procs the extra dmg

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Pogu

stiff barn
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I personally really like 2p 2p, big OFs and BB/BT

flat river
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uhh

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tier set 2p 2p better

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on dummies

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i deal 700k-800k ST

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if 4p i deal 500k-600k

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and MT i deal 3.2 mil burst and 1.8 mil sustained

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if 4p i deal 2.8 mil burst and 1.3 mil sustained

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ill try a full run

shell jackal
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is our prepatch stat prio

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crit and haste now? 🤮

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or am i reading the wowhead guide wrong (which is entirely possible) keks

hardy shuttle
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Listen to the robot. My sims have been going back to the s3 prio though with vers mastery

shell jackal
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aren't sims bricked

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or

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i haven't tried one yet tbh

flat river
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reject sims, listen to archi

hardy shuttle
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A ton were being posted in here yesterday that seemed somewhat accurate

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But I've ran the same sim like 4 times, 3 will be 525k then one random one will be 460k with no changes. So maybe some jankiness

stiff barn
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I remember Archie saying 2p2p was only like 2% ish better than 4p, so up to you.

warm crag
flat river
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did fury get buffed

warm crag
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max tweeted

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@clever belfry

covert blaze
oblique trail
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I'm only 26

clever belfry
still swift
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@covert blaze why are u such a grandpa

clever belfry
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OLDGE

hardy cargo
mossy fox
oblique trail
modest condor
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are you talented into cruelty?

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because that 15% is from cruelty

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wrath always increases damage by 15%, not just during enrage

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or at least it's supposed to

polar narwhal
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Ah, fairs. Missed that.

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Then yes, seems the damage portion is bugged. šŸ™‚

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I should make take a coffee before doing math keks

forest owl
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how much overall has odyns fury been nerfed in the last 2 weeks?

polar narwhal
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thank you shaman friend

plush ice
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so, this might be a dumb question, but if I use spear and it hits some enemies, but some enemies are out of it - and i still get the incrased crit dmg to everything i hit right

polar narwhal
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The 25% Crit Damage is only to enemies chained by the Spear.

plush ice
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Booooooo

hardy shuttle
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If a mob is immune to cc it still gets chained right? Just isn't trapped to it. And I'd assume it will always hit your target plus 4 others?

covert blaze
dense elbow
rocky sentinel
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I am literally having beef with every paladin i play with in m+. just let me have my moment on top!

dense elbow
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Washed up in 1 day

rocky sentinel
dense elbow
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That is what all washed up players say hippo

rocky sentinel
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tbh i ripped aggro a few times and died

dense elbow
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Should have shadowmelded

austere slate
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Frost dk also slaps hard on m+ as well as survi hunts

hardy shuttle
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Surv got big fixed so they are probably doomed now

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Bug*

hasty path
hardy shuttle
hasty path
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Let me guess, cheat death no spb

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Fracture high on his breakdown

dense elbow
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Most tanks are quite, meh, DPS wise. To say the least

hardy shuttle
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And double tank trinket. Fracture was 3rd behind cleave and immo

hasty path
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Fracture does like negative damage

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That’s wild

dense elbow
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Every time warrior complains about threat, I just want to look at the tank

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Shake my head

hasty path
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It’s either that or the fury blew their load instantly

hardy shuttle
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Doing keys with a frost dk is fucking sick though if it's a high enough one to live the burst. Double 45 second cd class with almost identical boss damage.

hearty yew
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did blizzard reset the progress towards legendary when S4 started?

hardy shuttle
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And we split the agro 5050 so we only tank 1 or 2 mobs each when we rip a few off the tank

dense elbow
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If we lucky, they will revert the OF dam nerfs for TWW, so we back in the game peepoHappy

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(progress shouldn't be reset, Mag catman )

unreal onyx
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Blizz loves reverting nerfs

dense elbow
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I know, I know

At least I got to have my time on the beta

hardy shuttle
paper ivy
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dont warbands work anymore?

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i need to give a friend of mine from another server some gold

glad coyote
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wblizz getting rid of them

balmy shore
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there’s some weird stuff with trading cross server rn idk if that affects warbands too

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it bricks the whole game

dense elbow
balmy shore
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yea the item disappears and ur game locks up

modest condor
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cross realm trading got disabled

clever path
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Did I hear wrong that cross realm mythic is open from start of TWW?

modest condor
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no

rocky sentinel
hasty path
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Lost bonedust and WTS but gained chi burst which is massive

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Losing niuzao was irrelevant.

rocky sentinel
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all the brews ive played with now are saying they got less dmg, but are so tanky

hasty path
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We lost very little dmg

rocky sentinel
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idk tbh, i play warrior šŸ™‚

glad coyote
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is rep broken as well?

clever path
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Nish is brew good tho?

glad coyote
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only see 4 reps in dragonflight list

hasty path
hasty path
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Dude had some bad talent choices especially considering how he actually utilized his abilities

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take several RSK talents that aren’t very good
barely use RSK

drowsy iron
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But it also means I'm currently in the process of using up my best years 😭

slim pollen
# glad coyote

They update when you obtain or interact with the reputation. It's like this at first after the patch

drifting arch
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Has anyone tried to use item restore in prepatch and it doesn’t show all the realms you have characters on? I just cleaned out my bank before the patch and it had my s3 tier set gear in it 😦

meager void
upbeat sentinel
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The code ain’t even spaghetti

cold nimbus
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How to manage Whirlwind and Thunderclap for our 4 next AOE ? Becausw Whirlwind seems to improve next spell and Thunder seems to be better

modest condor
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we dont use thunderclap yet until tww

stiff barn
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OF is capped now isnt it or is it only on beta?

modest condor
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it has always been capped

cold nimbus
stiff barn
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yeah , but the tooltip never stated it

modest condor
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yeah that's just blizzard being lazy

stiff barn
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is it 8 on the cap?

modest condor
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yes

stiff barn
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alright , thanks

modest condor
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soft cap btw

warped bone
# upbeat sentinel

Haha, that is impressive. So they fail that and pretty much all end bosses are bugged

wanton mirage
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I hate new spell book.

dense elbow
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why?

wanton mirage
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I was in midfight after a saved talent change which made my OF gone.

It got moved into talents tab. I was like wtf is it gone?
Then when i found It, it block my whole screen

gleaming siren
dense elbow
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peepostudy sounds like a you issue

mossy fox
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I heard spellbook gamers are in shambles

gleaming siren
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Spellbook gaming is indeed joever

wanton mirage
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Yeah how can I play this game with this blocking. Smh

dense elbow
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Doing tank testing, to check how I handle fury burst threat

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it is a non issue if they wait for a shatter

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:v

plush ice
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ngl, i'm running Ons and OF and....i might be starting to like it

dense elbow
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1/3 Fury warriors go before DND drop, dies
2/3 wait for DND and shatter, no issues

brisk warren
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we need to burst harderdeadge

dense elbow
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I kinda want to make a WA that tells ppl when shatter has happened

glad coyote
hardy shuttle
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Just macro a 10 second pull timer to DnD

strange drift
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what are the m+ talents with 2p-2p

livid fiber
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Frenzied Enrage over Powerful Enrage or the other way around? Or does it depend on Gear/ST/AoE ?

hardy shuttle
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The wowhead guide is up to date. But take the point out of wrath and fury and put it in VC

hardy shuttle
strange drift
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actually i need to ask about m+ talents coz my ass is dumb lol

hardy shuttle
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Lucky for you, the response is the same

strange drift
hardy shuttle
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The wowhead guide has m+ talents

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And it looks like they were updated to remove wrath and fury anyways

glad coyote
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why wouldnt we take swiftr strikes?>

brisk warren
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because of this

mossy fox
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try taking swift strikes and still reach the talents you need while also taking deft experience

strange drift
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tyvm*

hardy shuttle
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The generation nerfs pretty much make the endended enrage required.

meager void
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any of you being doing the annoying ST ONS change or nah?

summer quail
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nah i cba

strange drift
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hold up wasnt rava/spear off gcd?

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or am i tripping coz i havent touched the game in a month

hardy shuttle
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Tripping

sleek parrot
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just came back to the game for pre patch and shocked to see s3 2 set with 30+ ilvls less than current gear is better than current 4 set, time to get the items out of void storage

modest condor
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damn someone using void storage

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definitely one of the most forgotten features in the game

sleek parrot
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yeah I throw old gear in there in case its ever good for timewalking or something

dense elbow
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I threw things into voidstorrage one time, then it was just gone

sleek parrot
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better than wasting bank slots

dense elbow
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so never again

modest condor
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mine has been filled with gear from cata

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because that's what it was originially used for, and i wasnt playing the game when they changed the transmog system

sleek parrot
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so how do you guys like this doube 2 set gameplay, dmg and survivability. is it worth it if it's only 2% diff

dense elbow
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I just like that OF burst go burr, and BB crits go KAPLOWIE

If you dont want that - then just go (4)

modest condor
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im not doing high m+ so the survivability part isnt really relevant to me

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still have more hp than before prepatch

sleek parrot
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I don't see talent guides if using s4 4set, is it just the same as before pre patch?

dense elbow
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EU warriors needed Pedro

sleek parrot
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not taking bladestorm etc

dense elbow
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yep, you might want to go powerful enrage tho

deft parrot
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Is it me or is execute a wet noodle?

dim meadow
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Is raiderio working for anyone rn?

dense elbow
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Remember execute as fury is shown as 2 parts, so it looks weak on screen

still swift
summer quail
deft parrot
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Spec slapping as a whole

summer quail
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hits twice per cast so it just seems smaller

deft parrot
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Yeaa I think its the twice thing

bold osprey
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"worth" playing Fury in M+/raid atm due to the bugs?

deft parrot
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Feels weirrd

modest condor
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yeah with ashen juggernaut it's our strongest rotational ability

dense elbow
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Meh, still want Ashen jugg to turn into crit% dam mod instead

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I dont want mediocre hits more often, I want gigahits

deft parrot
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Same

modest condor
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actually im lying

deft parrot
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I want to smash

modest condor
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i was thinking of slayer

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right now it's not the strongest rotational ability

still swift
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cant believe u lied first..

modest condor
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liar is my middle name

forest grove
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I want to play thane so bad

still swift
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I dont want to play fury so badly rn

modest condor
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silm aril en
aril is an anagram of liar

high ferry
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Hello, my macro does not work. /use [@cursor]Heroic Leap <--- is it wrong?

still swift
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spacebar between ] and heroic leap

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maybe

dense elbow
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/cast not use

still swift
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doesnt use also work or is that specifically for items n stuff

modest condor
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use should work yeah, but doesnt hurt trying it with cast

still swift
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i just assume its the lack of a spacebar between ] and heroic so it doesnt see it

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but idk if macro work that way

high ferry
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still doesnt work :/

dense elbow
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/cast [@cursor] Heroic Leap
Should work ragey

modest condor
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/cast [@cursor] Heroic Leap

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this doesnt work?

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damnit kitty

high ferry
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sadly it does not : (

still swift
modest condor
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ok this is gonna sound really stupid

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but are you talented into heroic leap?

nimble ibex
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Been gone for a while how is warrior looking for war within come back to wow or not ? šŸ˜‚

high ferry
dense elbow
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Looks to have a fun playstyle

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rest is the same

high ferry
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Have it*

modest condor
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then idk what's going on

still swift
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can u screen the macro

dense elbow
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You make sure to click "save" after you fixed the macro, and you made sure the macro is what you are pressing?

modest condor
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i can log in and try the macro myself

dense elbow
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detective the plot thiccens

still swift
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screenshot of macro and ability on bars

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preddy plez

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:3

dense elbow
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I need a vod

modest condor
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it works fine for me

still swift
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i need a 20 minute youtube video explaining this

still swift
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mousebutton doesnt work for macro i think? right?

modest condor
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you dont have the macro on your bars

dense elbow
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its noit the one on your bars?

still swift
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i assume its the one in top row with the mouse keybind

dense elbow
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ya fool, drag it to the bar

modest condor
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in fact none of the macros are on your bars

high ferry
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lmao

dense elbow
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Me and silm right now: ragey

still swift
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:despair

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man this discord sucks can u allow emotes already

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i need a role

high ferry
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damn, mb

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new to the game

dense elbow
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Dont worry about it, we all do dumbdumbs.

Zugzug server after all

still swift
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real

dense elbow
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At least you didnt lock out your burst on smold, having OCE equiped, GCD locking yourself keks

high ferry
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thanks guys

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love u

dense elbow
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this is insane to me

modest condor
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gonna sign up just to decline when you invite

dense elbow
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That was you, eh?

modest condor
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no

dense elbow
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hms hms

modest condor
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why are you accepting arms warriors into your group?

dense elbow
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Had to

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healer was vetoing me

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:<

modest condor
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wtf

dense elbow
modest condor
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so the healer wants specs that are harder to heal in the group or what?

dense elbow
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we been waiting for a while

small dome
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Guy plays with 1 shitty warrior and bans them all

cold nimbus
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Any idea for the easiest way to have tier set from season 3 when playing without guild at this moment ?!

balmy shore
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i have whiplash getting an insta inv as warrior on afflicted week

balmy shore
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(i also really don’t think it’s a big deal)

valid drum
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Archi said it's about 2-2.5% dps, it's not that big of a deal at all

hollow raptor
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2.5% is a big deal wtf

balmy shore
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it’s pre patch šŸ’€

hollow raptor
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thanks sherlock

balmy shore
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no problem

radiant plank
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mickey mouse patch and Fury stressing about dps

next canopy
brittle phoenix
next canopy
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šŸ†

radiant plank
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Arms is still better btw

next canopy
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Hopefully this carries over to TWW

glacial garden
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survival bug is fixed?

lapis slate
next canopy
crisp prism
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feels good to be a warrior

unreal onyx
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paid actors

wanton mirage
unreal onyx
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you get score but rio is locked iirc

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but not 100% sure

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ingame score go up, raiderio ranking is set

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do people not raid on prepatch day?

wanton mirage
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So only Half E-pen gain

balmy shore
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but it’s pre patch

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šŸ’€

balmy shore
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those that raid on tuesdays

unreal onyx
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there's only 150 logged gnarl myth kills for fury

balmy shore
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yeah

unreal onyx
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90 for kazzara

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and 67 for eranog xd

balmy shore
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like our guild couldn’t raid and we only raid one day a week til xpac

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since maintenance went to like midnight

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also ig having all of them open means guilds probably pick and choose what bosses they want to do

unreal onyx
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I am R8 fury for aberrus with a 85 avg log and no sark kill

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and R9 amirdrassil with 62 avg and no tindral or fyrakk kill

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or everyone just playing arms

crisp prism
balmy shore
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yeah

unreal onyx
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but prepatch raiding is fun

crisp prism
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my guild isnt raiding my friends guilds arent raiding either

unreal onyx
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especially when it's scuffed af

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we use it to gear reroll chars for tww

crisp prism
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also lots of people waiting for prepatch event

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which is next week

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to resub

balmy shore
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we have a couple of raiders that aren’t even subbed to wow rn

eternal sundial
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i think we are only doing fyrakk

crisp prism
unreal onyx
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I love raiding sadge

eternal sundial
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but waiting for it to be fixed

unreal onyx
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by far my fav content

balmy shore
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yeah lol

crisp prism
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people already leveled every class on mop in case if they wanna reroll

balmy shore
eternal sundial
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mounts

unreal onyx
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fyrakk is fun

eternal sundial
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4 ppl are missing

balmy shore
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ahhh

eternal sundial
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fyrakk gets boring after the 10th time

unreal onyx
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everyone in our guild got it and we sold 2 mounts to fill gbank for tww

unreal onyx
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but for cheap bc friends of guildies

eternal sundial
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ye we had ppl rotate

unreal onyx
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only 3.5mil for 2

modest condor
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we killed it in like 3 pulls or something yesterday

unreal onyx
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BM carrying

balmy shore
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ye its easy but its also dispel central

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our healers will complain

eternal sundial
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i personally dont wanna do any fyrakk

balmy shore
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dispelling on cooldown is very engaging gameplay actually

eternal sundial
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as that means i need to do tindral

eternal sundial
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thats engaging

modest condor
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wait wtf i was blasting on tindral boss damage

hardy cargo
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Yeah I’d also punch my monitor if I had to play my role D:

balmy shore
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true but will other players yell at u to press it

unreal onyx
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mfw I have to play mechanics deadge

eternal sundial
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i want to just kill boss in 1 cd set

hardy cargo
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Real

balmy shore
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i love raiding idm the bosses personally tbh maybe hot take but i don’t love smolderon

unreal onyx
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tindral p1 is fun bc we phased it most times when 2nd set of feathers were up

balmy shore
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i also still think sofo is better than any of the df raids

unreal onyx
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and ppl took the wrong ones

dense elbow
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Nobody loves smold, we just like smold cause burst dam phase

balmy shore
dense elbow
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the fight isnt bad - but it isnt Tindral levels of fun

modest condor
eternal sundial
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id just wanna do sark>echo>fyrkk log off

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or something

unreal onyx
balmy shore
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being assigned group 2 tindral bombs šŸ¤ pushing fast enough to not do it

modest condor
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we had 5 bm hunters keks

balmy shore
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FIVE

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too many hunters….

modest condor
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wait im lying it was 4, the 5th hunter was surv

hardy cargo
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I’m perma assigned grp 1 feather critcake

balmy shore
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i only did it once xd

unreal onyx
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surv is/was also busted no?

balmy shore
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s4 is a blur

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their bombs were doing funky stuff

modest condor
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im group 2 and we pushed before 2nd bomb on every platform

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yesterday

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i wonder if that's why my boss damage is almost 10% ahead of #2

balmy shore
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fury is broken

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too op…

unreal onyx
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so what classes are giga in m+ now?

modest condor
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warrior

chrome plover
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do we 2p2p all content?

unreal onyx
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the rotation didn't change since yesterday, right?

crisp prism
unreal onyx
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still empowered BB>CB>BB>RB>BT ?

next canopy
next canopy
balmy shore
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fury is so crazy op and broken….

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just the best spec

modest condor
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blizzard please nerf arms

crisp prism
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if we get ultra nerfed i am rerolling this time šŸ’€

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i dont wanna play arms

unreal onyx
balmy shore
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fury always gets nerfed before expansion launch

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or raid launch or whatever

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u should expect it

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by now

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always

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forever

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also who cares play what u like

crisp prism
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more like we got 2-3 mediocre xpac and 1 good xpac

#

usually

#

i think now our time has come

dense elbow
#

Man, even 14-16s are filled with ppl who think they are better than anyone else sadgers
Where does it end, 20s?

eternal sundial
#

24s

robust basin
#

Am I out of luck If I sold my old S3 gear?

eternal sundial
#

its prepatch it dont matter

modest condor
#

no

#

you can item restore it

crisp prism
#

or server transfer

#

you just have to scroll a lot

robust basin
#

How much does 2pc pull over season 4?

crisp prism
unreal onyx
#

?

robust basin
#

?

crisp prism
#

archi said around 2-3%

#

but feels like a bit more then that

maiden ingot
#

Well, no 2pc+2pc for me, item restoration is cooked Half of my Account is missing on the list deadge

glacial garden
#

i think we are in a good spot

tender sky
#

anyone have a good solution or weak aura to tell when you are out of melee range? it seems a lot more impoortant with the changes

valid drum
crisp prism
#

and it feels ultra strong

robust basin
#

What are the slots we want to throw t3 in?

low folio
#

with the nerf to odyns fury coming in on prepatch, i feel like our prepatch performance is stronger than our beta performance when comparing to other classes

crisp prism
#

people say gloves and shoulders

#

i had to throw them in chest and pants cuz i faction changed start of s4

#

and my old tier is lost

#

470 ilvl 2x pieces compared to 528 high budget stats still performing good

valid drum
#

Couldn't find any myth track gloves, so I'll be going with shoulder and pants

robust basin
#

Item Restoration seems bugged

#

Im on Moonguard - Dragon flight

fair star
#

At this point they should change s4 tier to s3 like they did with some specs where they changed tier

robust basin
#

Not Cata classic

fair star
# valid drum ?

They should make the s4 tier,into s3,the OF one,instead of the s2 tier it is now

dark frost
#

Eu ruined the fun for everyone

valid drum
#

But, which classes got their tier sets changed on prepatch?

dark frost
#

Think warlock shaman and monk had a couple

fair star
dark frost
#

Cuase their tierset got baked in to talents thats why ours didnt change

valid drum
#

Uh, that makes sense then, our doesn't really

fair star
#

It was changed due to that tier becoming a talent in prepatch

#

Or something

fair star
#

39ilvl less

dark frost
#

Thats blizzard for you

valid drum
#

At least we're already getting on used to have a worthless 4p, like we'll do next season

dark frost
#

I used a trinket from a raid in s2 of legion to the end of the expac

hollow ridge
#

does anyone know if theres an unhinged weakaura that tells you when the bt casts go off

dark frost
#

Convergence of fate enjoyers remember

fair star
#

Bro a few days ago i saw wowhead post NEW TIERSETS FOR CLASSES,i was a bit hyped but i saw no warrior changes

#

Like how do you not change THE worst tier in the game

valid drum
fair star
#

People might not even run it if the stats dont match

#

Archi said something like 2p+4p is 2% dmg increse

crisp prism
dark frost
#

Guess what youre playing spear again lmao

crisp prism
dense elbow
#

Annhi is gone, and you dont have to stand in spear anymore.

crisp prism
#

spear is reworked

dense elbow
#

No more complaints about this thing, plz

dark frost
hollow ridge
fair star
#

Imagine playing ravager

#

Bladestorm much cooler

dark frost
#

Bladestorm you cant rampage to bake those casted bts into bb

crisp prism
#

you can spin tho

#

i like spinning

unreal onyx
#

fury seems okay in keys

#

BH +11

dark frost
#

Ravager/bs usually paired with avatar/OF so s3 2set you want those auto casted to be empowered bb

unreal onyx
#

do we play RA or AM in m+?

#

I just played my key with AM

crisp prism
#

i tried both and both performs around the same

dark frost
#

I prefer RA

#

If im using 2p2p

#

Prolly am if youre using 4ps4

unreal onyx
#

I use 2p2p

dark frost
#

I would use RA but your call

unreal onyx
#

is there a WA for empowered BB stacks?

dense elbow
dark frost
#

And share

unreal onyx
#

I never had to use meld in a key as often as in that one

unreal onyx
dense elbow
copper scarab
crisp prism
dense elbow
#

when you bring more than one fury

#

numbers scuff

crisp prism
#

for s3 tier set

dark frost
#

I was doing dunny testing and was getting good results in tracking when the ravager was autocasting the bts and making sure they were BB

unreal onyx
#

ravager?

dense elbow
#

(ST)

unreal onyx
#

ahh

#

do the autocast BT/BB count the same for S3 set?

#

or are those separate

dark frost
#

Yes

#

Your empowered bt/bb stacks from OF get used up by the auto BTs from BS/Ravager

night portal
#

Anyone else using Luxthos having trouble getting their raging blow to load? not sure why, mine seems to have fallen off the display

unreal onyx
#

I use luxthos

#

no issues

#

but my scaling was fucky after prepatch yesterday

#

so I uninstalled and reinstalled

night portal
#

huh, odd

unreal onyx
#

since I use vanilla with some minor bar changes

crisp prism
#

seems like wago links are gone

unreal onyx
crisp prism
#

ty

#

yeah everything works now ty again

robust basin
#

For us stuck in 4pc, Do we use the same talent build that's in the guide?

crisp prism
robust basin
#

Feel like there'd be a more optimal one for 4pc

#

That is what I was thinking

#

I wonder if the Season 4 Tier buff tracker WA is still accurate.

unreal onyx
#

should be

#

but not sure

cedar kraken
#

how do i get the s3 tier in prepatch? so i can run 2pc +2pc?

warped osprey
cedar kraken
#

ah epic, ty

balmy socket
#

do we use recklessness on cd?

crisp prism
balmy socket
#

like combined with avatar?

cedar kraken
rocky sentinel
balmy socket
robust basin
#

Yeah

rocky sentinel
crisp prism
#

i got it comboed with roar

maiden ingot
robust basin
crisp prism
#

kinda same thing tho i did it cuz reck charge value

still swift
#

dont need a lot of complexity for that one

robust basin
#

I wouldn't know, I can't use item restore.

maiden ingot
#

I mean it's prepatch, it sucks but it's also not the end of the world. Next to nothing matters rn.

#

And come the next update relevant to anything, that tier is irrelevant.

still swift
#

hot take

rotund steppe
#

i mean gotta love those couple M in dps burst

still swift
#

if you use some old tierset because for some reason its strong again ur kinda scum anyway

robust basin
#

I need to be the best tho

#

I am a warrior.

quiet python
#

any good macros for new talents? rec + ava?

robust basin
#

A fury warrior.

crisp prism
#

guys even if you use 4p you are still more then fine

dense elbow
crisp prism
#

just less of damage

still swift
#

:hehe:

dense elbow
dark frost
#

Wait do you not have to stand in spear anymore??

dense elbow
#

nop, just hit stuff

dark frost
#

Holy

crisp prism
#

you have to hit the dude tho

maiden ingot
dark frost
#

Does it work on bosses? Do they get ā€œchainedā€

dense elbow
#

it does affect bosses, yep

#

but no, you dont tether them

maiden ingot
#

Yes. Otherwise I'm psure it would've been a literal nerf.

crisp prism
#

they wont get rooted but as long as chain is connected to them

#

you doing extra dam

dark frost
#

So should we be doing @player or @cursor now usually @player was the move cause you had to stand in it

dense elbow
#

@player is used for ease of use, it is easier to minmax hits (and fuck up) with cursor

crisp prism
#

tbh seems like we arent using spear at all now šŸ˜„

dense elbow
#

chose what you want

dark frost
crisp prism
#

feels more like some kinda personal preference now

valid drum
#

Which would be about these 8k in St

calm swallow
#

Fury without the haste-enrage buff feels... weird

modest condor
#

funny way to spell bad

calm swallow
#

I was trying not to be a doomer, but yeah

modest condor
#

im just not playing powerful, never going to

calm swallow
#

Yeah I.... I don't like this lol

#

Doesn't feel like fury

modest condor
#

imagine playing fury with like 15% haste and powerful enrage at the start of the expansion

#

oof

calm swallow
#

It'd take us all day to kill something lol

#

Like... Annihilator/SoS didn't feel this slow

eternal sundial
#

Arms pacing

#

Enjoy it

edgy widget
#

Especially after the OF nerf

eternal sundial
edgy widget
#

In MT I assume?

#

I’ll take a look at it this evening

calm swallow
eternal sundial
#

This was the sequence in st

eternal sundial
#

Id have to dig for the sim

#

Can do after my food ig

#

But i sent it yesterday so just from:psyduckphil should work

#

Jump to the pic

edgy widget
#

na it's fine, I can replicate it

#

easy fix

eternal sundial
#

Cool

#

Free dps gained

edgy widget
#

an extra bladestorm & ravager lines got left in default actions instead of the ST/MT APL

dense elbow
#

I been fooling myself, basic BS is only two casts of BT?

upbeat sentinel
#

Another maintenance with no Warband Bank

#

riot

edgy widget
#

Fury BS hits 5 times by default

dense elbow
#

I been thinking it was 3 peepoBlush

edgy widget
#

Arms gets 3, cause it hits 7 times by default

#

or 4/5 respectively, with full Imminent Demise stacks

dense elbow
#

Ngl, I do enjoy going out of BS and pressing ramp, BB - just feels like a very natural transition

#

Silky smooth gameplay

#

Man, I keep saying it, but Fury atm - just feels so good

rotund relic
#

what trinkets are u guys using in m+ rn?

dense elbow
#

I use Fragment+OCE

rotund relic
#

using these

dense elbow
#

Aug is a lot less value, same with brand - as our baseline dam got amped hard

#

So if you got statsticks, they bump you hard

rotund relic
#

rip bought these with bullions

#

do we get more next reset?

dense elbow
#

Hey, not a bad purchase

rotund ginkgo
#

im here guys :3

edgy widget
rotund ginkgo
#

im finally home from a month in the USA

#

:3

edgy widget
#

I'll see if I can clean up the rage spending, but it might not even be worth

#

could maybe do Spear -> CB -> BS -> Ramp

rotund ginkgo
#

is prepatch live?

edgy widget
#

yes

half kettle
#

yea

rotund ginkgo
#

googly moogly

half kettle
#

event hasnt started yet tho

rotund ginkgo
#

so if i login rn theres no actual content?

dense elbow
#

There is an event?

#

Oh ofc it is

#

Beldrasil is going to get burnt down this time around ratge

calm swallow
#

What trinkets are people using in M+ with this 2pc/2pc combo?

half kettle
#

theres like a warband quest, new talent tree updates etc

calm swallow
#

I've currently got pocket anvil, signet, augery, and grieftorch

dense elbow
#

I swapped to heavy stat boosters, to amp our baseline dam that got buffed

#

Also, 3mill burst is just fun

warped osprey
dense elbow
#

I use fragment atm

#

I would kill for a tides, or another 1.5min stat trinky

#

Bloodbath with statboost goes hard

warped osprey
meager void
dense elbow
dark frost
#

Bring back might if the ocean

meager void
#

but your crit dps is higher tho

dense elbow
#

significaly so

#

You not running (4)s3 I presume

meager void
dense elbow
#

That would be why

meager void
dense elbow
#

You only die to threat on live, if your tank is bad or you dont give him a sec to root

plush raven
meager void
#

I've been offtanking m+ mob packs for 3 days now

plush raven
feral ivy
#

anyoen remeber that command to know how many bullions u recived and suppose to have?

dense elbow
humble plover
#

The amount of times I've heard "Taters I'm trying" in the last few days lmaoo

humble plover
#

Your aggro is belong to me

eternal sundial
#

It's great

dawn shore
#

did anyone elses raging blow go missing from their WA?

dense elbow
#

Nop

warped osprey
feral ivy
#

tyty

plush raven
eternal sundial
plush raven
#

Now I'm only allow to hit the pack after 3 seconds have passed

dense elbow
#

What annoys me, is that ppl blow up the meme of Charge-BS-release. That the casuals are picking up on it, turning it an voiced issue ._.

dense elbow
#

Then something that isnt broken, gets "fixed" by gutting our burst DPS

humble plover
#

That fucker doesn't tank for us anymore

eternal sundial
#

Not fury needs nerf

warped osprey
dense elbow
eternal sundial
#

Buff threat

dense elbow
#

Weird, I had no issues tanking for comps of multiple fury warriors Hydrate

meager void
# eternal sundial Threat needs buff

yeah. I've gotten aggro problems from tanks that never had them before. Its still like 3rd with new talents so you cant blame ppl for having to adjust.

dense elbow
#

this be fair

#

but that is not a "us" issue

#

that is tanks adapting

meager void
#

and its also true that some classes, fury specially, just had to change ONS for OF and Ravager for Bladestorm

#

I basically logged in to +300-400k extra dps

rotund ginkgo
#

im a warrior

meager void
#

while our BDK was still crying about his Death Strike

rotund ginkgo
#

this is my spirit

dense elbow
#

Balanced, sure - better for the game? maybe. Makes it all clunkier and less fun? For sure.

#

tierlist blizz first took OF, then DS - next they will come for bladestorm

restive peak
#

I stopped pulling aggro today by waiting literally 3s every pull before charging

eternal sundial
#

It doesnt matter if u wait

dense elbow
#

I charge in and WW, bt, and then go ham if tank has rooted

eternal sundial
#

You do so much dam

dense elbow
#

Phil, you talking about tank issue tho - tanks can burst TPS quite efficently

eternal sundial
#

Especially if you pot ashes (xan)

dense elbow
#

Problem is if we simply dont wait

edgy widget
# edgy widget +2k dps šŸŽ‰

ok dumb as it sounds, I'm not getting any gains out of trying to avoid the rage waste; either you end up overwriting CB or using CB+Rampage earlier just pushes OF's DoT out of Spear

#

but it's also to be expected, Bladestorm generates 148+ rage during Reck keks

restive peak
#

Unhinged needs to be changed to Rampages confirmed

humble plover
#

Lmaooo

dense elbow
#

Ask them to buff Overwhelming Rage to 100/200 extra rage: ez fix

rotund ginkgo
#

do we play dancing blades or titanic rage for m+?

eternal sundial
#

TR forsure

rotund ginkgo
#

i figured right?

eternal sundial
#

10% of is actually fucking MASSIBE

dense elbow
#

TR is a ton of fun :)

#

Allows you to just burst

humble plover
#

Fury buffs when

rotund ginkgo
#

i mean in s3 dancing blades was the play for ST

#

does it change now in prepatch/tww?

restive peak
#

It was the play due to anni

#

It sucks without it

eternal sundial
#

I think with roar rework and of talent changes that's no longer true

rotund ginkgo
#

thanks pookie

#

i havent been here in a month

#

so im rly not caught up

#

missed everything p much

restive peak
#

Wb baethang

rotund ginkgo
#

tyty

#

gotta climb up again

forest owl
#

rampage instead of BT during bladestorm would be cool

rotund ginkgo
#

gave up m+ for s4 though

#

massive USA trip

warm pond
rotund ginkgo
#

1 month vegas>florida>tennesse>nyc

dense elbow
restive peak
#

I needed title cuz draconic hero is too cool D:

dense elbow
#

I do like unhinged is BT, just seems fair and impactful with Slayer procs

restive peak
#

Jelly of the trip though

#

Wifey and I hittin aussie for a month next year, cannot wait

junior dock
#

whats the opener rn ?

rotund ginkgo
#

i just gave up after hitting 3.3 in 3 weeks

#

and not being invited cuz spriests were already peaking 3.6 lol

humble plover
#

Charge > release spirit

rotund ginkgo
dense elbow
#

charge, ww, bt (wait for tank to root), Ava/Reck/Roar, Bladestorm, OF
or Baldestorm-ramp, bb, OF, ramp, bb

warm pond
rotund ginkgo
#

@restive peak am i tripping or does wowhead write 2p+2p?

humble plover
#

Pretty metal tbh

prime gyro
dense elbow
#

Just do old (4), for more BB numbers on your screen

rotund ginkgo
#

is that a thing?

unreal onyx
dense elbow
#

yes, it is a thing

restive peak
#

Yep 2p 2p cuz OF fucks now

rotund ginkgo
#

zzzzzz

restive peak
rotund ginkgo
#

dude

#

im so behind

#

i need ppl to fill me up w info

restive peak
#

It's not a huge deal for prepatch tbh, you can 4pce S4 and not lose a ton of DPS

rotund ginkgo
#

pause

dense elbow
#

My best tip: Remember to wait for tank to root, before you burst

unreal onyx
#

2p2p RA slaps big time

humble plover
#

Slaps like Dad used to

forest owl
unreal onyx
#

arugably as hard as after a good night at the bar

dense elbow
#

2mill crits just feels right to have on my screen - brings me back to better days gladge

plush ice
#

i feel like i need a tick timer for ravager to see when its going to spend the blood baths

humble plover
#

Be hitting like poor life choices rn

plush ice
#

idk in my rav cooldowns what buttons i should be pressing lol

warm pond
#

Selecting warrior in the character screen is a poor life choice

plush ice
#

i think its probablly better to just cycle rampage - CB - rampage and let the ravager throw out the bloodbaths, but if you do that with no pauses i think i wind up wasting bb's

humble plover
#

Never. Best rollercoaster ride I've been on since I started playing

warm pond
dense elbow
#

I just hope everyone enjoys prepatch numbers, as when we go into TWW, it is back to bottom of the barrel Pedro

warm pond
#

I play wow like a 9 to 5

humble plover
#

I play wow like a I haven't bought the elden ring dlc yet

mellow cradle
#

S4 set ST I only use bloodthirst / bath when having enough stacks from tier?

plush ice
#

i'm essentailly ignoring the s4 set and hitting bt/bb on cd

sterile dagger
#

anyone have problems with raid rn? :DDDDDD

#

got dc'd, and now cant login on character

#

and character still in game

warm pond
#

Being a dumb orc warrior who knows nothing but 5 buttons feels Soo good

sterile dagger
#

for like 5-7 minutes

edgy widget
sterile dagger
#

couple of people tbh

warm pond
#

Me AM that kind of orc clueless

plush ice
#

idk, is that what the apl is doing? casue i'm just BT on cd and on sanity tests i'm beating my sims by like 40Kish

#

i sim at 480ish, but after testing i'm right at 510 to 520ish K, and thats just sanity testing, no pot or hero

edgy widget
#

I assume you're not doing 5m tests with an execute phase either

plush ice
#

i'm not pressing execute or running VC

#

usually you hit within the margins of yoru sim dps if you sim the dummy

#

but i'm out performing even that

edgy widget
#

no you don't

#

I find it pretty unlikely you're getting 520k after 5m on a single dummy without Execute, pot, hero, etc

plush ice
#

yeah, 520 is the high, its more 510, but yeah, onslought plus the follow up talent, plus OF

edgy widget
#

dummy tests are almost always lower because of the lack of all those extra things, not to mention monk buff, etc etc

plush ice
#

plus the bleedthing, going TR and not spear

edgy widget
#

feel free to link some stuff

meager void
plush ice
#

interstingly enough, even with that, takeing the 45 min TR still seems to be a loss over the extra pointed in armored

edgy widget
#

and fwiw, the sim doesn't just wait for max stacks; about a quarter of your stacks end up getting eaten by Unhinged anyway

#

and others get wasted as you inevitably fill the rotation with BT

plush ice
#

yeah, i'm not quite sure the sim apl is right though - dont take my word for it, take a snapshot sim of yourself and then go hit the dummy, using the base rotation but modified so you are hitting BT come hell or high water basically

#

its not like its a little off, its super off

edgy widget
#

with respect, you're making the claim, it'd be nice if you'd present some evidence to support it

meager gyro
#

RA too fun I refuse to play AM Archi, you can’t make me xan

edgy widget
#

not tell me to go try to replicate whatever it is you're doing

plush ice
#

the only thing diff i'm doing is no vc, and taking onslought + whatever that next one is, OF, the bleed talent, and then switcing spear for roar

edgy widget
#

ok, well this conversation would be a whole lot easier if you'd simply link your evidence

#

instead of just making the claims

plush ice
#

i mean, i'm hitting a dummy, but i'm saying its off by enough you can test it yourself

edgy widget
#

I assume you have details and a printscreen key?

#

you can log, you can show us screenshots, anything really

plush ice
#

i've never logged a training dummy before, but yeah, when i get home 4:30ish est i'm happy to print it, or share a screen in disc or something

edgy widget
#

Sure, I'd be happy to look at your findings

plush ice
#

but i'm simply saying, its not like its close, anyone shoudl be able to duplicate it

meager gyro
plush ice
#

oh, so, since you posted HnS isn't working, i think thats the point i moved over to the bleed node

#

so theres no Hack n Slash either

edgy widget
#

I don't doubt you're seeing different results in-game, but I don't know exactly what you're doing in-game either - just that what you're saying doesn't align with what we typically know to be true of dummy vs sim comparisons; that's why it'd just be easier to analyze by seeing what you're seeing

plush ice
#

I think thats the name of the one you said was bugged

edgy widget
#

Wrath & Fury is the one that's bugged; the chance to reset part works, but the +15% damage doens't

plush ice
#

oh im sorry

meager void
#

All this patience from Archi is confusing

#

up is down

#

down is up

#

its raining cats and dogs

plush ice
#

maybe thats the one i flipped over

edgy widget
#

likely yeah, but that actually lost dps, cause the +15% on CB is pretty big

unreal onyx
#

kinda feels like leggo on-use is a dps downgrade rn

#

propably not true

#

but feels like it with the big BBs

dense elbow
#

It is worth it, but ya won't notice without a crit peepoBlush

upbeat plume
#

Yeah just fire it on pull and without am it's at least easier to use outside of cds

pliant obsidian
#

this rotation gonna smooth out when hero talents come online?

junior gale
#

Yes

pliant obsidian
#

thank god it feels so rage starved and clunky

junior gale
#

It's not that bad but def will feel better to play once you have Slayer

pliant obsidian
#

i like the dps increase especially aoe but i'm just hitting buttons off cd i cant seem to string abilities together etc

valid drum
pliant obsidian
#

i'm sitting at 51 percent haste and still using fillers ww etc its bad for me

mint obsidian
#

what talents we go for rn?

valid drum
#

Idk, this just hasn't been my experience, I've only been running keys tho, might be a raid thing

pliant obsidian
#

i'm just doing keys too but just like 13's nothing real high

#

it could be a number of things the 4pc could be interfering roar not generating rage etc maybe these class clown designers will figure it out soon

unreal onyx
#

mfw raidlead just annouced raid team disbanding in tww

pliant obsidian
#

darn sorry to hear

zealous stone
#

should I get the ominous chromatic trinket? my trinkets suck and im using these bullions

pliant obsidian
#

pretty vague need more info lol raid if many have it keys not really

#

aug signet is good

zealous stone
#

what are the best trinkets for m+?

pliant obsidian
#

aug sig and all peeps using the doll for you lol

junior gale
#

Nah u def want puzzle box as fury rn

#

Big boom boom

pliant obsidian
#

debateable

edgy widget
#

easiest just to sim them tbh - use the droptimizer (season 4 vendors)

pliant obsidian
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if sims took into account happy feet tanks etc i would use that utility but its very reliable archi

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not very

edgy widget
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I mean you can just manually disregard the obviously inefficient ones like Brand

unique locust
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@edgy widget For Single Target do we use Frenzied Enrage or Powerfull Enrage?

pliant obsidian
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how is signet inefficient in keys?now some dungeons yea like maybe nokkud

split coyote
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we're progging on Sarkareth tonight, Bladestorm or Ravager?

edgy widget
edgy widget
dense elbow
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Adds gotta die, so I would go storm

edgy widget
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adds probably gonna get merced anyway

dense elbow
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Just aim to be the merc doing int

split coyote
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probably bstorm then. Miss having bs as fury. Thanks

dense elbow
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catman hf and gl

pliant obsidian
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me too finally get bladestorm back

meager gyro
flat river
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its not in my nature

gleaming siren
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Maybe cook better dishes then

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Because this dish was not it

hushed walrus
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Hi guys are we still trash tier or we're better for the next season

eternal sundial
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Prepatch good wawi alright

fleet cargo
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hello folks, i had to reset my whole game (including deletion of all addons and settings) because of continuing lua errors