#fury
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i the 2/2 dream "over"? 4 p on ST does more. or raidbots not up to date?
galabonk
Soooo when is aug getting deleted?
Hey ! how can i restore my S3 tier ?
If u sold it, you can just restore it
Remember you can restore multiple pieces at a time.
how?
click on multiple items
how does the fury opener look like in m+ with this build?
All this hate for augs when warlocks and mages have been right there for 20 years
Magicians are at fault for all our woes
Does fury has a hard cap on any stat?
100% crit š
(technically you can reach hard capped drs, but do not worry about any of that just ask the robot overlord)
(also not technically on retail, just remix as it is=
is augury doodoo now?
its fine
is the crit cap still like 102% and some change or is that a boomer thing?
Boomer cope
Was 102.4 aswell i believe.
.8% crit suppression per level difference
how old is boomer
because I turned 29 this year
and if you tell me thatās boomer I will blow up
lol
boomer
Young whipper snapper
Whatsup grandpa
old lol
is there some proper way to macro spear/avatar to maximize titan's torment (odyn's fury) ?
Bro...
Old lol
youngling
33 š“
Same
31 
Holy fucking boomer alert
33 here also Sumjons. Aint it awful how all joins ache when the weather is cold? š“
I do truly feel old when it comes to many of todays new games. Zero interest in even trying them out
38 but I parse 99 šŖš½
To put it in perspective⦠last night was raining so I stayed in and played WoW with my 8 year old sonā¦
does that mean after i hit 30 ill finally be good
Naa i used to be good Bova. Hit 30. Now I'm a blue boi
35 š¬
im 27
WoW has a pretty high age group overall Iād say.
The youth nowadays play Fortnite
Thatās why they tried out plunderstorm. Itās a Fortnite knock off
perma afflicted
"young"
huh weird
raidbots says 2p 2p worst than 4p for me
but when i try on dummies
2p 2p better
dummies surely a good test
This is the issue i have with low haste arms. It just feels so odd. Think I'll take my DPS loss and stay a mix of crit/haste in pre-patch content instead of high Crit low haste
Your judgement
Judgement? We paladins now?
I personally really like 2p 2p, big OFs and BB/BT
real
uhh
tier set 2p 2p better
on dummies
i deal 700k-800k ST
if 4p i deal 500k-600k
and MT i deal 3.2 mil burst and 1.8 mil sustained
if 4p i deal 2.8 mil burst and 1.3 mil sustained
ill try a full run
is our prepatch stat prio
crit and haste now? š¤®
or am i reading the wowhead guide wrong (which is entirely possible) 
Listen to the robot. My sims have been going back to the s3 prio though with vers mastery
reject sims, listen to archi
A ton were being posted in here yesterday that seemed somewhat accurate
But I've ran the same sim like 4 times, 3 will be 525k then one random one will be 460k with no changes. So maybe some jankiness
I remember Archie saying 2p2p was only like 2% ish better than 4p, so up to you.
did you see the news yesterday
I'm 27 shut up!!!
the tweet was suppressed
@covert blaze why are u such a grandpa
OLDGE
No way youāre a boomer tooā¦ā¦
damn even banezi is old now

are you talented into cruelty?
because that 15% is from cruelty
wrath always increases damage by 15%, not just during enrage
or at least it's supposed to
Ah, fairs. Missed that.
Then yes, seems the damage portion is bugged. š
I should make take a coffee before doing math 
how much overall has odyns fury been nerfed in the last 2 weeks?
hey zhai

thank you shaman friend
so, this might be a dumb question, but if I use spear and it hits some enemies, but some enemies are out of it - and i still get the incrased crit dmg to everything i hit right
The 25% Crit Damage is only to enemies chained by the Spear.
Booooooo
If a mob is immune to cc it still gets chained right? Just isn't trapped to it. And I'd assume it will always hit your target plus 4 others?
It's still chained yeah, you wouldn't play spear in raid if it didn't work
From memory
It went from ~150% ap value, to 135%, to 97%, it was 92% in DF
(92*2+84%)
Yes, they did ruin OF hype
in the name of "balance" fun died 
I am literally having beef with every paladin i play with in m+. just let me have my moment on top!
Washed up in 1 day
im trying my best here
That is what all washed up players say 
tbh i ripped aggro a few times and died
Frost dk also slaps hard on m+ as well as survi hunts
What is ur brew doing to only have 295k details š¤Ø
I had a dh in NO pull 160k dps and I checked, wasn't even talented into spirit bomb
Most tanks are quite, meh, DPS wise. To say the least
Oh I know
And double tank trinket. Fracture was 3rd behind cleave and immo

Fracture does like negative damage
Thatās wild
Every time warrior complains about threat, I just want to look at the tank
Shake my head
Itās either that or the fury blew their load instantly
Doing keys with a frost dk is fucking sick though if it's a high enough one to live the burst. Double 45 second cd class with almost identical boss damage.
did blizzard reset the progress towards legendary when S4 started?
And we split the agro 5050 so we only tank 1 or 2 mobs each when we rip a few off the tank
If we lucky, they will revert the OF dam nerfs for TWW, so we back in the game 
(progress shouldn't be reset, Mag
)
Surely 
Blizz loves reverting nerfs
Hey we got that 10% impending heal back. Baby steps
dont warbands work anymore?
i need to give a friend of mine from another server some gold
wblizz getting rid of them
this what i said about playing boomkin last night 
thereās some weird stuff with trading cross server rn idk if that affects warbands too
it bricks the whole game
Word of mouth, jungledrums, hearsay; my mate told his friend bugged out trying to crossrealm gold. It gone. So I would wait.
yea the item disappears and ur game locks up
cross realm trading got disabled
Did I hear wrong that cross realm mythic is open from start of TWW?
no
well brew lost like 2-4 dmg abilities for more tankiness, but they are so unkillable atm
Lost bonedust and WTS but gained chi burst which is massive
Losing niuzao was irrelevant.
all the brews ive played with now are saying they got less dmg, but are so tanky
We lost very little dmg
idk tbh, i play warrior š
is rep broken as well?
Nish is brew good tho?
Yea
I found the log
Dude had some bad talent choices especially considering how he actually utilized his abilities
take several RSK talents that arenāt very good
barely use RSK
It's all good m8
30s are the best years for me so far
But it also means I'm currently in the process of using up my best years š
They update when you obtain or interact with the reputation. It's like this at first after the patch
Has anyone tried to use item restore in prepatch and it doesnāt show all the realms you have characters on? I just cleaned out my bank before the patch and it had my s3 tier set gear in it š¦
its buggy. Try clearing cache and/or using a different browser (like edge)
How to manage Whirlwind and Thunderclap for our 4 next AOE ? Becausw Whirlwind seems to improve next spell and Thunder seems to be better
we dont use thunderclap yet until tww
OF is capped now isnt it or is it only on beta?
it has always been capped
And in the war within ? Just with procs ?
yeah , but the tooltip never stated it
yeah that's just blizzard being lazy
is it 8 on the cap?
yes
alright , thanks
soft cap btw
Haha, that is impressive. So they fail that and pretty much all end bosses are bugged
I hate new spell book.
why?
I was in midfight after a saved talent change which made my OF gone.
It got moved into talents tab. I was like wtf is it gone?
Then when i found It, it block my whole screen
I need you to stop cooking GalaStronk
sounds like a you issue
I heard spellbook gamers are in shambles
Spellbook gaming is indeed joever
Yeah how can I play this game with this blocking. Smh
Doing tank testing, to check how I handle fury burst threat
it is a non issue if they wait for a shatter
:v
ngl, i'm running Ons and OF and....i might be starting to like it
1/3 Fury warriors go before DND drop, dies
2/3 wait for DND and shatter, no issues
we need to burst harder
but ive already interacted with them before.
Just macro a 10 second pull timer to DnD
Frenzied Enrage over Powerful Enrage or the other way around? Or does it depend on Gear/ST/AoE ?
The wowhead guide is up to date. But take the point out of wrath and fury and put it in VC
Powerful is slightly better in the keys I've done. But frenzied activates dopamine.
actually i need to ask about m+ talents coz my ass is dumb lol
Lucky for you, the response is the same
so i just change it so WW gives me stacks ?
The wowhead guide has m+ talents
And it looks like they were updated to remove wrath and fury anyways
why wouldnt we take swiftr strikes?>
try taking swift strikes and still reach the talents you need while also taking deft experience
The generation nerfs pretty much make the endended enrage required.
any of you being doing the annoying ST ONS change or nah?
nah i cba
hold up wasnt rava/spear off gcd?
or am i tripping coz i havent touched the game in a month
Tripping
just came back to the game for pre patch and shocked to see s3 2 set with 30+ ilvls less than current gear is better than current 4 set, time to get the items out of void storage
damn someone using void storage
definitely one of the most forgotten features in the game
yeah I throw old gear in there in case its ever good for timewalking or something
I threw things into voidstorrage one time, then it was just gone
better than wasting bank slots
so never again
mine has been filled with gear from cata
because that's what it was originially used for, and i wasnt playing the game when they changed the transmog system
so how do you guys like this doube 2 set gameplay, dmg and survivability. is it worth it if it's only 2% diff
I just like that OF burst go burr, and BB crits go KAPLOWIE
If you dont want that - then just go (4)
im not doing high m+ so the survivability part isnt really relevant to me
still have more hp than before prepatch
I don't see talent guides if using s4 4set, is it just the same as before pre patch?
EU warriors needed 
not taking bladestorm etc
yep, you might want to go powerful enrage tho
Is it me or is execute a wet noodle?
Is raiderio working for anyone rn?
Remember execute as fury is shown as 2 parts, so it looks weak on screen
as a filler would be
with ashen it hits decently hard
Spec slapping as a whole
hits twice per cast so it just seems smaller
Yeaa I think its the twice thing
"worth" playing Fury in M+/raid atm due to the bugs?
Feels weirrd
yeah with ashen juggernaut it's our strongest rotational ability
Meh, still want Ashen jugg to turn into crit% dam mod instead
I dont want mediocre hits more often, I want gigahits
Same
actually im lying
I want to smash
nice fake info noob
cant believe u lied first..
liar is my middle name
I want to play thane so bad
I dont want to play fury so badly rn
silm aril en
aril is an anagram of liar
Hello, my macro does not work. /use [@cursor]Heroic Leap <--- is it wrong?
/cast not use
doesnt use also work or is that specifically for items n stuff
use should work yeah, but doesnt hurt trying it with cast
i just assume its the lack of a spacebar between ] and heroic so it doesnt see it
but idk if macro work that way
still doesnt work :/
/cast [@cursor] Heroic Leap
Should work 
sadly it does not : (
forum posts dont lie btw both are the same
Been gone for a while how is warrior looking for war within come back to wow or not ? š
yeah I vae it
Have it*
then idk what's going on
can u screen the macro
You make sure to click "save" after you fixed the macro, and you made sure the macro is what you are pressing?
i can log in and try the macro myself
Yeah I saved it
the plot thiccens
I need a vod
it works fine for me
i need a 20 minute youtube video explaining this
mousebutton doesnt work for macro i think? right?
you dont have the macro on your bars
its noit the one on your bars?
i assume its the one in top row with the mouse keybind
ya fool, drag it to the bar
in fact none of the macros are on your bars
lmao
Me and silm right now: 
Dont worry about it, we all do dumbdumbs.
Zugzug server after all
real
At least you didnt lock out your burst on smold, having OCE equiped, GCD locking yourself 
this is insane to me
gonna sign up just to decline when you invite
That was you, eh?
no
hms hms
why are you accepting arms warriors into your group?
wtf

so the healer wants specs that are harder to heal in the group or what?
we been waiting for a while
Guy plays with 1 shitty warrior and bans them all
Any idea for the easiest way to have tier set from season 3 when playing without guild at this moment ?!
i have whiplash getting an insta inv as warrior on afflicted week
i item restored do you have zero pieces?
(i also really donāt think itās a big deal)
Archi said it's about 2-2.5% dps, it's not that big of a deal at all
2.5% is a big deal wtf
itās pre patch š
thanks sherlock
no problem
mickey mouse patch and Fury stressing about dps
Photo shop⦠I only ever seen āNo warriorā
Prepatch logs are very serious gotta maximise dps for them fr
We havenāt been bis since forever and now we meta in pre patch

š
Arms is still better btw
Hopefully this carries over to TWW
survival bug is fixed?
slander of the highest order
Off with his head.
feels good to be a warrior
paid actors
Wait, do we still gain IO?
you get score but rio is locked iirc
but not 100% sure
ingame score go up, raiderio ranking is set
do people not raid on prepatch day?
So only Half E-pen gain
there was a druid asking if i wanted to group bc they āhad a spot for dps like mineā
but itās pre patch
š
pre patch day went through east coast NA raid times
those that raid on tuesdays
there's only 150 logged gnarl myth kills for fury
yeah
like our guild couldnāt raid and we only raid one day a week til xpac
since maintenance went to like midnight
also ig having all of them open means guilds probably pick and choose what bosses they want to do
I am R8 fury for aberrus with a 85 avg log and no sark kill
and R9 amirdrassil with 62 avg and no tindral or fyrakk kill
or everyone just playing arms
i dont think anyone really raiding atm
yeah
but prepatch raiding is fun
my guild isnt raiding my friends guilds arent raiding either
we have a couple of raiders that arenāt even subbed to wow rn
i think we are only doing fyrakk
ratio on my guild is like 70% lol
I love raiding 
but waiting for it to be fixed
by far my fav content
yeah lol
people already leveled every class on mop in case if they wanna reroll
is it for achieve or mounts? our healers would riot if we had to do fyrakk again LOL
mounts
fyrakk is fun
4 ppl are missing
ahhh
fyrakk gets boring after the 10th time
everyone in our guild got it and we sold 2 mounts to fill gbank for tww
fyrakk was giga easy
but for cheap bc friends of guildies
ye we had ppl rotate
only 3.5mil for 2
we killed it in like 3 pulls or something yesterday
BM carrying
i personally dont wanna do any fyrakk
dispelling on cooldown is very engaging gameplay actually
as that means i need to do tindral
you ms on cd
thats engaging
wait wtf i was blasting on tindral boss damage
Yeah Iād also punch my monitor if I had to play my role D:
true but will other players yell at u to press it
mfw I have to play mechanics 
i want to just kill boss in 1 cd set
Real
i love raiding idm the bosses personally tbh maybe hot take but i donāt love smolderon
tindral p1 is fun bc we phased it most times when 2nd set of feathers were up
i also still think sofo is better than any of the df raids
and ppl took the wrong ones
private auras are bad
Nobody loves smold, we just like smold cause burst dam phase
oh yeah forgot about that too
the fight isnt bad - but it isnt Tindral levels of fun
we were phasing tindral way before the 2nd set even spawned
we also had like 4 reroll chars with sub 510 ilvl
being assigned group 2 tindral bombs š¤ pushing fast enough to not do it
we had 5 bm hunters 
nonfated moment
wait im lying it was 4, the 5th hunter was surv
Iām perma assigned grp 1 feather 
is it still not pushing on fated idr
i only did it once xd
surv is/was also busted no?
im group 2 and we pushed before 2nd bomb on every platform
yesterday
i wonder if that's why my boss damage is almost 10% ahead of #2
so what classes are giga in m+ now?
warrior
do we 2p2p all content?
the rotation didn't change since yesterday, right?
kinda prepatch thing tbh tww fury is really strong but there are stronger specs
still empowered BB>CB>BB>RB>BT ?
Stop writing these things. We going to eat a hard nerf.
Shhhhhh
blizzard please nerf arms
havent played any m+ yet
fury always gets nerfed before expansion launch
or raid launch or whatever
u should expect it
by now
always
forever
also who cares play what u like
more like we got 2-3 mediocre xpac and 1 good xpac
usually
i think now our time has come
Man, even 14-16s are filled with ppl who think they are better than anyone else 
Where does it end, 20s?
24s
Am I out of luck If I sold my old S3 gear?
its prepatch it dont matter
if you didnt race or faction change after that you can restore
or server transfer
you just have to scroll a lot
How much does 2pc pull over season 4?
seems like it
?
?
Well, no 2pc+2pc for me, item restoration is cooked Half of my Account is missing on the list 
i think we are in a good spot
anyone have a good solution or weak aura to tell when you are out of melee range? it seems a lot more impoortant with the changes
To be fair, the lower the ilvl of your S4 and the lower the content you're playing, the stronger 2p2p will feel.
i replaced my max lvl high budget stat pieces for 2 s3 pieces
and it feels ultra strong
What are the slots we want to throw t3 in?
with the nerf to odyns fury coming in on prepatch, i feel like our prepatch performance is stronger than our beta performance when comparing to other classes
people say gloves and shoulders
i had to throw them in chest and pants cuz i faction changed start of s4
and my old tier is lost
470 ilvl 2x pieces compared to 528 high budget stats still performing good
Couldn't find any myth track gloves, so I'll be going with shoulder and pants
At this point they should change s4 tier to s3 like they did with some specs where they changed tier
Not Cata classic
?
They should make the s4 tier,into s3,the OF one,instead of the s2 tier it is now
Eu ruined the fun for everyone
But, which classes got their tier sets changed on prepatch?
Think warlock shaman and monk had a couple
Some shaman spec,warlock
Cuase their tierset got baked in to talents thats why ours didnt change
Uh, that makes sense then, our doesn't really
Ye but its weird running last seasons tier for most dmg
39ilvl less
Thats blizzard for you
At least we're already getting on used to have a worthless 4p, like we'll do next season
I used a trinket from a raid in s2 of legion to the end of the expac
does anyone know if theres an unhinged weakaura that tells you when the bt casts go off
Convergence of fate enjoyers remember
Bro a few days ago i saw wowhead post NEW TIERSETS FOR CLASSES,i was a bit hyped but i saw no warrior changes
Like how do you not change THE worst tier in the game
I just watch my WW stacks fading.
People might not even run it if the stats dont match
Archi said something like 2p+4p is 2% dmg increse
nah i'd rather skip the season then play annihilator spear again
Yeah that talent that still exisits
Guess what youre playing spear again lmao
annihilator and other one is removed now
Annhi is gone, and you dont have to stand in spear anymore.
spear is reworked
There isnt but there should be, i was doing dummy training and it would be cool for ravager windows you could track when the empowered BT/BB would casts so you could nake sure they were bb
mean for ST ravager reasons
Bladestorm you cant rampage to bake those casted bts into bb
Ravager/bs usually paired with avatar/OF so s3 2set you want those auto casted to be empowered bb
both seems viable
i tried both and both performs around the same
I use 2p2p
I would use RA but your call
is there a WA for empowered BB stacks?
Hoovering in all the pad damage before others kick in

I never had to use meld in a key as often as in that one
š
Try them both and see what you prefer playing with more. CDR is personally the most fun thing in the game so I go that route.
there should be one in wago
for s3 tier set
I was doing dunny testing and was getting good results in tracking when the ravager was autocasting the bts and making sure they were BB
ravager?
(ST)
Anyone else using Luxthos having trouble getting their raging blow to load? not sure why, mine seems to have fallen off the display
I use luxthos
no issues
but my scaling was fucky after prepatch yesterday
so I uninstalled and reinstalled
huh, odd
since I use vanilla with some minor bar changes
do you have a link for it
seems like wago links are gone
For us stuck in 4pc, Do we use the same talent build that's in the guide?
i'd say use anger management instead of ra
Feel like there'd be a more optimal one for 4pc
That is what I was thinking
I wonder if the Season 4 Tier buff tracker WA is still accurate.
how do i get the s3 tier in prepatch? so i can run 2pc +2pc?
item restoration
ah epic, ty
do we use recklessness on cd?
my bt bb crit tracker works perfectly fine
like combined with avatar?
my item restoration page is not showing all my toons, most importantly my warrior...what
i macroed them together
okay, so we combine it always yea?
Yeah
dno, works for me in +17 keys so
i got it comboed with roar
Yep, it's absolutely cooked. Think the Warband implementation might've cooked a little more than they planned for.
Sucks for us trying to get 2 + 2
kinda same thing tho i did it cuz reck charge value
2+2 is 4 silly
dont need a lot of complexity for that one
I wouldn't know, I can't use item restore.
I mean it's prepatch, it sucks but it's also not the end of the world. Next to nothing matters rn.
And come the next update relevant to anything, that tier is irrelevant.
hot take
i mean gotta love those couple M in dps burst
if you use some old tierset because for some reason its strong again ur kinda scum anyway
any good macros for new talents? rec + ava?
A fury warrior.
guys even if you use 4p you are still more then fine
What if you never stopped using it? 
just less of damage
then u didnt rly play the game and ur bad anyway
:hehe:

Wait do you not have to stand in spear anymore??
no
nop, just hit stuff
Holy
you have to hit the dude tho
Nope, it applies the bonus to mobs as a debuff now. No more standing in spear, just gotta make sure to hit what you can with the impact.
Does it work on bosses? Do they get āchainedā
Yes. Otherwise I'm psure it would've been a literal nerf.
So should we be doing @player or @cursor now usually @player was the move cause you had to stand in it
@player is used for ease of use, it is easier to minmax hits (and fuck up) with cursor
tbh seems like we arent using spear at all now š
chose what you want
This is also true.. my sim shows TR winning by about 8k
they are ultra close
feels more like some kinda personal preference now
People have been losing their shit for 2%
Which would be about these 8k in St
Fury without the haste-enrage buff feels... weird
funny way to spell bad
I was trying not to be a doomer, but yeah
im just not playing powerful, never going to
imagine playing fury with like 15% haste and powerful enrage at the start of the expansion
oof
It'd take us all day to kill something lol
Like... Annihilator/SoS didn't feel this slow
Spear is still better for ST in my testing
Especially after the OF nerf
Idk if you saw it yesterday but for spear + bs sim testing stuff a guy and i did it send bs before spear - i assume you are aware of that?
F no
This was the sequence in st
my sims are also doing that
Id have to dig for the sim
Can do after my food ig
But i sent it yesterday so just from:psyduckphil should work
Jump to the pic
an extra bladestorm & ravager lines got left in default actions instead of the ST/MT APL
I been fooling myself, basic BS is only two casts of BT?
yes, every 2nd hit triggers
Fury BS hits 5 times by default
I been thinking it was 3 
Arms gets 3, cause it hits 7 times by default
or 4/5 respectively, with full Imminent Demise stacks
Ngl, I do enjoy going out of BS and pressing ramp, BB - just feels like a very natural transition
Silky smooth gameplay
Man, I keep saying it, but Fury atm - just feels so good
what trinkets are u guys using in m+ rn?
I use Fragment+OCE
using these
Aug is a lot less value, same with brand - as our baseline dam got amped hard
So if you got statsticks, they bump you hard
Hey, not a bad purchase
im here guys :3
+2k dps š
I'll see if I can clean up the rage spending, but it might not even be worth
could maybe do Spear -> CB -> BS -> Ramp
is prepatch live?
yes
yea
googly moogly
event hasnt started yet tho
so if i login rn theres no actual content?
There is an event?
Oh ofc it is
Beldrasil is going to get burnt down this time around 
What trinkets are people using in M+ with this 2pc/2pc combo?
theres like a warband quest, new talent tree updates etc
I've currently got pocket anvil, signet, augery, and grieftorch
I swapped to heavy stat boosters, to amp our baseline dam that got buffed
Also, 3mill burst is just fun

so ashes would be good? like 10k str 
I use fragment atm
I would kill for a tides, or another 1.5min stat trinky
Bloodbath with statboost goes hard


mine is bigger

Bring back might if the ocean
but your crit dps is higher tho
nope, 2p 2p
That would be why
with that thing you might have to make a /use macro like:
#showtooltip Might of the Ocean
/use 13
/cast Release Spirit
You only die to threat on live, if your tank is bad or you dont give him a sec to root

I have 3 ingots waiting for be spend. So should I grab what? OCE and Anvil?
I've been offtanking m+ mob packs for 3 days now
sameeee
anyoen remeber that command to know how many bullions u recived and suppose to have?
remember to do the raid first, maybe save yourself some bullions
But I wouldnt look at myself. I play for fun. That aside, I would go for OCE and the other stat trinky probs
The amount of times I've heard "Taters I'm trying" in the last few days lmaoo
ty
Your aggro is belong to me
I yell red nameplate in vc
It's great
did anyone elses raging blow go missing from their WA?
Nop
yes sir
/run a=C_CurrencyInfo.GetCurrencyInfo(3010) print("You have earned " .. a.totalEarned .. " of " .. a.maxQuantity .. " possible bullion drops")
tyty
In my friend group, we say jokingly: "There's is a bit of tank in your aggro" or "Aggro we have tank!"
Check spell id or talent conditions
Now I'm only allow to hit the pack after 3 seconds have passed
What annoys me, is that ppl blow up the meme of Charge-BS-release. That the casuals are picking up on it, turning it an voiced issue ._.
poor madass š¦
Then something that isnt broken, gets "fixed" by gutting our burst DPS
That fucker doesn't tank for us anymore
Threat needs buff
Not fury needs nerf
excuse me sir, why mine is smol pp, not even 1m 
Its fine on live, tho 
Beta tho, is a mess
It's not
Buff threat
Weird, I had no issues tanking for comps of multiple fury warriors 
yeah. I've gotten aggro problems from tanks that never had them before. Its still like 3rd with new talents so you cant blame ppl for having to adjust.
Avg tank pug is shit tho
and its also true that some classes, fury specially, just had to change ONS for OF and Ravager for Bladestorm
I basically logged in to +300-400k extra dps
while our BDK was still crying about his Death Strike
I too will cry about that change, it is a true
change
Balanced, sure - better for the game? maybe. Makes it all clunkier and less fun? For sure.
blizz first took OF, then DS - next they will come for bladestorm
I stopped pulling aggro today by waiting literally 3s every pull before charging
It doesnt matter if u wait
I charge in and WW, bt, and then go ham if tank has rooted
You do so much dam
Phil, you talking about tank issue tho - tanks can burst TPS quite efficently
Especially if you pot ashes (
)
Problem is if we simply dont wait
Good tanks maybe

ok dumb as it sounds, I'm not getting any gains out of trying to avoid the rage waste; either you end up overwriting CB or using CB+Rampage earlier just pushes OF's DoT out of Spear
but it's also to be expected, Bladestorm generates 148+ rage during Reck 
Unhinged needs to be changed to Rampages confirmed
Lmaooo
Ask them to buff Overwhelming Rage to 100/200 extra rage: ez fix
do we play dancing blades or titanic rage for m+?
TR forsure
i figured right?
10% of is actually fucking MASSIBE
Fury buffs when
i mean in s3 dancing blades was the play for ST
does it change now in prepatch/tww?
I think with roar rework and of talent changes that's no longer true
thanks pookie
i havent been here in a month
so im rly not caught up
missed everything p much
Wb baethang
rampage instead of BT during bladestorm would be cool
Never because blizzard doesn't love us plate wearing savages š
1 month vegas>florida>tennesse>nyc
not OP at all on ST
I needed title cuz draconic hero is too cool D:
I do like unhinged is BT, just seems fair and impactful with Slayer procs
Jelly of the trip though
Wifey and I hittin aussie for a month next year, cannot wait
whats the opener rn ?
real
i just gave up after hitting 3.3 in 3 weeks
and not being invited cuz spriests were already peaking 3.6 lol
Charge > release spirit
gonna be poggies
charge, ww, bt (wait for tank to root), Ava/Reck/Roar, Bladestorm, OF
or Baldestorm-ramp, bb, OF, ramp, bb
Charging into death itself is a pretty cool death
@restive peak am i tripping or does wowhead write 2p+2p?
Pretty metal tbh
Q talentos usas ahora?
Just do old (4), for more BB numbers on your screen
?
yes, it is a thing
Yep 2p 2p cuz OF fucks now
zzzzzz
Fuck yeah brotherrrrrr
It's not a huge deal for prepatch tbh, you can 4pce S4 and not lose a ton of DPS
pause
My best tip: Remember to wait for tank to root, before you burst
2p2p RA slaps big time
Slaps like Dad used to

arugably as hard as after a good night at the bar
2mill crits just feels right to have on my screen - brings me back to better days 
i feel like i need a tick timer for ravager to see when its going to spend the blood baths
Be hitting like poor life choices rn
idk in my rav cooldowns what buttons i should be pressing lol
Selecting warrior in the character screen is a poor life choice
i think its probablly better to just cycle rampage - CB - rampage and let the ravager throw out the bloodbaths, but if you do that with no pauses i think i wind up wasting bb's
Never. Best rollercoaster ride I've been on since I started playing
Only reason it's a bad choice is because you can never stop playing the game
I just hope everyone enjoys prepatch numbers, as when we go into TWW, it is back to bottom of the barrel 
I play wow like a 9 to 5
I play wow like a I haven't bought the elden ring dlc yet
S4 set ST I only use bloodthirst / bath when having enough stacks from tier?
i'm essentailly ignoring the s4 set and hitting bt/bb on cd
anyone have problems with raid rn? :DDDDDD
got dc'd, and now cant login on character
and character still in game
Being a dumb orc warrior who knows nothing but 5 buttons feels Soo good
for like 5-7 minutes
use BB/BT at 100% crit, otherwise prio CB/RB/Rampage
But if Enrage drops, or you're out of RB charges and can't Rampage/Execute, then use BT anyway
couple of people tbh
Me AM that kind of orc 
idk, is that what the apl is doing? casue i'm just BT on cd and on sanity tests i'm beating my sims by like 40Kish
i sim at 480ish, but after testing i'm right at 510 to 520ish K, and thats just sanity testing, no pot or hero
tyty
unless your sim environment matches your test environment, the numbers aren't going to match up
I assume you're not doing 5m tests with an execute phase either
i'm not pressing execute or running VC
usually you hit within the margins of yoru sim dps if you sim the dummy
but i'm out performing even that
no you don't
I find it pretty unlikely you're getting 520k after 5m on a single dummy without Execute, pot, hero, etc
yeah, 520 is the high, its more 510, but yeah, onslought plus the follow up talent, plus OF
dummy tests are almost always lower because of the lack of all those extra things, not to mention monk buff, etc etc
plus the bleedthing, going TR and not spear
feel free to link some stuff
this is not true at all
interstingly enough, even with that, takeing the 45 min TR still seems to be a loss over the extra pointed in armored
and fwiw, the sim doesn't just wait for max stacks; about a quarter of your stacks end up getting eaten by Unhinged anyway
and others get wasted as you inevitably fill the rotation with BT
yeah, i'm not quite sure the sim apl is right though - dont take my word for it, take a snapshot sim of yourself and then go hit the dummy, using the base rotation but modified so you are hitting BT come hell or high water basically
its not like its a little off, its super off
with respect, you're making the claim, it'd be nice if you'd present some evidence to support it
RA too fun I refuse to play AM Archi, you canāt make me 
not tell me to go try to replicate whatever it is you're doing
the only thing diff i'm doing is no vc, and taking onslought + whatever that next one is, OF, the bleed talent, and then switcing spear for roar
ok, well this conversation would be a whole lot easier if you'd simply link your evidence
instead of just making the claims
i mean, i'm hitting a dummy, but i'm saying its off by enough you can test it yourself
I assume you have details and a printscreen key?
you can log, you can show us screenshots, anything really
i've never logged a training dummy before, but yeah, when i get home 4:30ish est i'm happy to print it, or share a screen in disc or something
Sure, I'd be happy to look at your findings
but i'm simply saying, its not like its close, anyone shoudl be able to duplicate it

oh, so, since you posted HnS isn't working, i think thats the point i moved over to the bleed node
so theres no Hack n Slash either
I don't doubt you're seeing different results in-game, but I don't know exactly what you're doing in-game either - just that what you're saying doesn't align with what we typically know to be true of dummy vs sim comparisons; that's why it'd just be easier to analyze by seeing what you're seeing
I think thats the name of the one you said was bugged
Wrath & Fury is the one that's bugged; the chance to reset part works, but the +15% damage doens't
oh im sorry
All this patience from Archi is confusing
up is down
down is up
its raining cats and dogs
maybe thats the one i flipped over
likely yeah, but that actually lost dps, cause the +15% on CB is pretty big
kinda feels like leggo on-use is a dps downgrade rn
propably not true
but feels like it with the big BBs
It is worth it, but ya won't notice without a crit 
Yeah just fire it on pull and without am it's at least easier to use outside of cds
this rotation gonna smooth out when hero talents come online?
Yes
thank god it feels so rage starved and clunky
It's not that bad but def will feel better to play once you have Slayer
i like the dps increase especially aoe but i'm just hitting buttons off cd i cant seem to string abilities together etc
What are you playing? I haven't felt the least bit rage starved, maybe change from powerful to frenzied enrage?
i'm sitting at 51 percent haste and still using fillers ww etc its bad for me
what talents we go for rn?
Idk, this just hasn't been my experience, I've only been running keys tho, might be a raid thing
i'm just doing keys too but just like 13's nothing real high
it could be a number of things the 4pc could be interfering roar not generating rage etc maybe these class clown designers will figure it out soon
darn sorry to hear
should I get the ominous chromatic trinket? my trinkets suck and im using these bullions
pretty vague need more info lol raid if many have it keys not really
aug signet is good
what are the best trinkets for m+?
aug sig and all peeps using the doll for you lol
debateable
easiest just to sim them tbh - use the droptimizer (season 4 vendors)
if sims took into account happy feet tanks etc i would use that utility but its very reliable archi
not very
I mean you can just manually disregard the obviously inefficient ones like Brand
@edgy widget For Single Target do we use Frenzied Enrage or Powerfull Enrage?
how is signet inefficient in keys?now some dungeons yea like maybe nokkud
we're progging on Sarkareth tonight, Bladestorm or Ravager?
they're very close - Frenzied comes out slightly stronger for me in ST, while Powerful is slightly better in AoE, but it's possible you could have different results
for Sark damage, Ravager
for (p)add damage, Bladestorm
Adds gotta die, so I would go storm
adds probably gonna get merced anyway
Just aim to be the merc doing int
probably bstorm then. Miss having bs as fury. Thanks
hf and gl
me too finally get bladestorm back

Hi guys are we still trash tier or we're better for the next season
Prepatch good wawi alright
hello folks, i had to reset my whole game (including deletion of all addons and settings) because of continuing lua errors


