fury

[unreal onyx]

but I didn't do the math

[dense elbow]

3-4% if I remember right

[brittle dock]

Anyone know what the fury execute spell ID is? The one with a cooldown? I can't get my weak auras to work right.

[elder granite]

4pc season 3 is simming higher for me

by like 10%

[young swan]

its useless unless if you're mountain thane and have the appropriate talent from thane

[eternal sundial]

grab idtip addon

[tawdry lily]

[unreal onyx]

are the prepatch sims out and somewhat accurate already?

aka can someone tell me how far arms/fury are in ST/aoe

[eternal sundial]

#updates-midnight

[unreal onyx]

bruh

(I don't remember how far apart the specs were before prepatch)

[dense elbow]

In the pins of arms and fury

[brittle dock]

thanks, i'll check it out

[flint dragon]

did the spec slow down? i run out of abilities to press and its not spammy like it was

[unreal onyx]

ye but there's no direct comparison to before prepatch anymore

I think

[dark frost]

Fury simmed 380k single target, arms simmed 440k

[eternal sundial]

fury was 410 max

arm like 448 if tmy simmy

[unreal onyx]

so the difference is still the same as before prepatch

[somber elk]

does anyone know why I cant choose the server my main is on if I want to restore my s3 t set?

[mild thunder]

I'm currently at 467k for Arms, and 481k for Fury on ST.

[unreal onyx]

item restore doesn't work rn

iirc

[somber elk]

damn

[dark frost]

My arms is stuck at 480k and fury is at 503k but i havent giga critted my gear for arms

[plush ice]

@eternal sundial https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/aBTwGC6U74AZAy2ZdteikT

w/ bladestorm

[dark frost]

This is all raidbots though

[plush ice]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/nLcQtLn986JEJwZo5oyNi5

thats w/ rav

[mild thunder]

Arms wants me to go for Vers, and Fury wants all-in on Haste.

[plush ice]

i kinda thoughtt he BS inside spear might pump a bit more

[eternal sundial]

This seems turbo wrong

[plush ice]

oooof

its not BS inside spear

thats weird, preusmbly in the TWW the apl should be dsigned to do that

[eternal sundial]

Well archi has spent his time on tww apl

So prepatch is not prio #1

To my understanding

[restive peak]

Prepatch APL is likely never going to be perfect because it's mostly irrelevant

[dark frost]

Which is understood

[plush ice]

yeah, i just figured something like that woudl get more or less copy pasted

[dark frost]

Keep in mind simming for 5 min is kinda silly at this point

[eternal sundial]

With rava using it there is Borderline okay

[plush ice]

yeah, i'm going to do some sanity testing w/ spear/BS

[eternal sundial]

But it's also using OS over ramp

Which im not sure

[restive peak]

Legit mythic bosses are dying in 2-3 mins

[graceful ruin]

is CB intended to do significantly less dmg than BB?

[dark frost]

Heroic fights are going to last 3 min or less barring fyrakk and tindral. And mythic fights will be like 4 min or less

[eternal sundial]

Ye

[graceful ruin]

this is with the same number of casts roughly

[plush ice]

ah, so its more seeing the differences

[eternal sundial]

But ur ramp is low

[graceful ruin]

huh

i cast ramp the same amount of times as BB

[eternal sundial]

Idk it's mainly been equal for the stuff ive checked out

[graceful ruin]

strange

but i can't be using it too rarely right

must be something else

[eternal sundial]

Might be opener shenanigans

[graceful ruin]

oh maybe

there is also the tier set

[eternal sundial]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/GAPRfJTYX7y9Cgkt#fight=39&type=damage-done&source=71

This is with s4 set

Idk if s3 would change it much

[merry jetty]

just raid logging till TWW; does fury beat arms now? sims say arms beat but some friends keep telling me to go fury

[graceful ruin]

how would i check the talents on this?

[gleaming juniper]

with full bis sims arms is at 560k while fury is 507k

[plush ice]

eh, idk, that 507 i'm also thinking is suspect

i think w/ some twaking fury can be higher

[dark frost]

Tbh just feely crafting.. fury and arms feel super close

Like within 10k or less of eachother

[eternal sundial]

It's broken but it's powerful enrage + tender + spear iirc

[somber elk]

is bb or cb higher prio?

[grave lark]

bb

[plush ice]

so, ngl but i'm cookin somethin

big money no whammy all in on the spear window

F onslought, taking TR for ST

[somber elk]

and do we always wanna use bb and cb before we rampage again?

[grave lark]

bb yes, cb no iirc

[somber elk]

thx

[graceful ruin]

what do you replace for tender?

[eternal sundial]

UF iirc

Can check tmys vod ig

[restive peak]

Yes you use both

[graceful ruin]

i don't go UF

oh there's only 8 talents taken in the bottom bit

didn't realise

[restive peak]

The rotation is Ramp>CB>BB

[warm crag]

@eternal sundial give me a ravager macro for arms

please

[restive peak]

BB/BT has a CD and can only be sent E3rdGCD regardless

[sinful spoke]

[somber elk]

id:browse ty

[sinful spoke]

i think arms sims way higher stll no

maybe my crafted gear is bad?

too much mastery?

[dark frost]

Even with 2p2p??

That doesnt sound right

[restive peak]

Yes why would it change?

You can't use BT every other GCD regardless

[dark frost]

cause bb is empowered

[restive peak]

You just don't send your 2nd OF til you've done 3 BBs

If you're runnin TT, you delay your 1st actual OF

That's all

[plush ice]

oh thats right, i've got my sim up to 502, but thats w/ only the s4 stuff, so if the highest sim is 507, is running 2p/2p only worth 5K?

[eternal sundial]

/cast ravager?

[grave lark]

add [@player]

[restive peak]

If you flip CB/BB to BB/CB, it basically changes nothing overall anyway, but yes you send both

[eternal sundial]

@subtle goblet do you have a spell known macro for bs and rava

[eternal sundial]

loud incorrect buzzer

[grave lark]

eh, it's qol

[eternal sundial]

At cursor better

[sinful spoke]

no it isnt

[polar narwhal]

/use [mod:shift,@cursor][@player] Ravager

[sinful spoke]

gonna put that shit on the ceiling

[eternal sundial]

Or on ur ass not the adds

[restive peak]

@cursor is technically better but I use @player cuz I'm lazy AF and never have issues

[polar narwhal]

ravager can move

[sinful spoke]

usually thats where they are

your ass

[eternal sundial]

It doesnt have to if you place it well

[sinful spoke]

unless youre somehow fighting the adds from a mile away

[elder granite]

2pc/ 2pc is the way to go rn?

[feral ivy]

anyoen try the achrophobia with sennarth yet?

[warm crag]

ty

[warm crag]

have you tried not using psychotic camera angles

[eternal sundial]

Im sure hroth gets u the right macro soon

[warm crag]

are there unhinged trackers yet

might be valauble for execute idk

[polar narwhal]

what itemlevel? myth track +?

[sinful spoke]

no

[warm crag]

sorry about that

[subtle goblet]

I’m not at my machine, but it’s an If/Else statement like this:

/cast [known: Ravager] Ravager; Bladestorm

And you can toss the Cursor/Player part next to the Known.

[glad bough]

lf fury pve, pref m+ build

[paper ocean]

optimally how much does AM take off reck and bladestorm/ravager's cd?

[rigid stirrup]

[flat river]

4 sec per rampage?

[polar narwhal]

/use [known:228920] Ravager; [known:227847] Bladestorm

imho, use /use, saves 1+ character for longer macros 🤔

[elder granite]

mythic track shoulders and hero gloves, i got mythic track everything from s3 execpt gloves

[eternal sundial]

Preciate it

[paper ocean]

Does it make them a 45 sec cd, if you get it right?

[sinful spoke]

if im using the s4 4pc should i still be stacking the crit on bb or just sending it after rampage ?

[flat river]

no

[grave lark]

no

[elder granite]

i think one you have 95% crit on BB you send it

[small hemlock]

So has the suggested m+ build on wowhead changed since last night?

[sinful spoke]

yeah thats what i was thinking

i guess we run RA for the crushing blow?

[polar narwhal]

s4 4p is useless with unhinged

[elder granite]

idk its neck and neck in my sims

[eternal sundial]

send

[hardy nest]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/skhcgN1t1XhG2rVdLxBocb

[sinful spoke]

what the fuck

how are u simming so high is it 2p2p?

oh yeah it is

[hardy nest]

yeah

[dull quarry]

is it better to go arms without to 2-2 tier set? (raid)

[polar narwhal]

How is your ravager almost 40% more damage than on my sim xD

Ah, it counts in the empowered BBs

Interesting

[lean wasp]

how do i get 2p 🙂

do i try to get it from the refund items thing form bnet

or is tehre another way

[warm crag]

ye item restore

or just play arms

[lean wasp]

i think i still have the old 2p on my other warrior

so the rotation is rampage>> crushing>> bb ?

[hallow jay]

What is the current stat prio for fury?

[rotund steppe]

so funny question, can any of you guys open your bags?

[knotty lotus]

is there a way to get heroic or myth track S3 tier right now that's not item restoration?

[polar narwhal]

No

[rotund steppe]

nope

[knotty lotus]

k, guess 454 vendor helm is best option

[undone hearth]

damn bro

[lean wasp]

yaay i found my 2p mythic shoulder and hands

[polar narwhal]

You lose too much stat

[undone hearth]

what build do i use for m+ now?

[knotty lotus]

I gained 5% on sim even with the 61 ilvl drop on 1 slot

i have bugged 515 hands with S3 tier on it

[sinful spoke]

is there a way to get s3 gear?

i lost all my shit cuz i faction changed

cant restore

[meager void]

that was my second guess on your issue yesterday.

cant get it now anymore sadly

but 4pc s4 is not really far behind anyways

[knotty lotus]

you can get 441 gloves and 454 helm off the renown vendor and catalyst them to S3, but that's a much bigger sacrifice than having 489 pieces

[meager void]

oh yeah, if you have any pieces from s3, you can catalyze

[sinful spoke]

im gonna sim this

[sinful spoke]

😭

[meager void]

you can catalyze the paracasual shit, right?

[sinful spoke]

hmmm

lemme check

[knotty lotus]

paracausal flake gear is S4 adventurer track now

[next canopy]

Man Fury feels so good wow. I may have to come back and be a Delve gamer.

Feel so smooth and the number of interrupts we have now is sick

[knotty lotus]

did a +10 earlier and beat a hunter and monk that had 15 ilvls on me by over 20%

[dense elbow]

The lower the key, the better our lead

Once ya get up there, mobs dont die and sustained AoE matters more

thus: Me doing 700k and others 300k, as I killed everything

[next canopy]

The feel is great tho

[hybrid summit]

We use ravager in ST instead of bladestorm?

[dense elbow]

It is in a really good spot, for sure. I would normally back you 100%, but OF nerf got me in bad mood

[next canopy]

Arms numbers look high on ST

[meager void]

dude, having Shockwave so often feels so fucking good.

[next canopy]

Yeah!! It’s great!

[meager void]

Xan said it best.

[next canopy]

I was shocked. Felt like it was bugged or sumtin haha

[dense elbow]

Xan going to kiss the company on the mouth - as it made me sad

[compact knot]

i cant item restore my items lmao

[dense elbow]

RIP, dont worry - you aint missing out much

[meager void]

whats your error, sometimes its fixable

[next canopy]

Why is everyone so pumped to item restore. Pre patch parsing?

[compact knot]

my characters arent even showing up

[dense elbow]

Open it in another browser

[compact knot]

fun

[meager void]

that happened for a bit yesterday. Try another browser

and make sure you are not logging into EU

(or NA) if you EU

[meager void]

2pc 2pc slaps on pre-patch. Its try-hardism tbf

[dense elbow]

Try 4p s3, and slap even more

[compact knot]

i already have my 2p from last season because of pvp purposes but i want to try 4p tbh

[dense elbow]

4p is a ton of fun, that is for sure - OF goes burrr

[next canopy]

So trading in game bugs you completely. I advise not doing that

[meager void]

no way, Ive got my 5pc s3 restored for pre-patch gaming then

[polar narwhal]

We should've voted for S3 4P ;-;

[dense elbow]

Try it, enjoy BB crits for 1mill and OF going burrrr

[meager void]

we did, but the french, etc did us wrong

[compact knot]

i tried restoring on bing and it did not work

same thing

[dark frost]

is 4p even better?

[dense elbow]

More fun, if you ask me, mathematically better? Prob not

[next canopy]

Yes. I’m just 4pc gaming. Didn’t touch S3. Still pumps

[dense elbow]

I just like seeing big numbers on screen

I am a simple person

[next canopy]

Arms is clunky?

[meager void]

on edge, you mean? can I see a screencap thru dms (uwu)

[compact knot]

these are the only servers that show up, i ONLY play on area 52 and kel'thuzad, not sure why this is happening

[dense elbow]

Arms is clunky af, if you ask me

[limpid elbow]

hey

is fury going to be good for m+ in tww?

[dense elbow]

If melee is good, we will be up there

[meager void]

do you recognize the character names?

[forest owl]

BB banging

[compact knot]

well i mean i only play on area 52 and kt, these are just old characters none of which are even close to max level

it might be a warband thing

[median kestrel]

is there a macro for bladestorm and ravager change

[rigid stirrup]

wym

[dense elbow]

Mine are only hitting for 1mill, what are your mast/vers values?

[compact knot]

i think my best guess is i have cross realm warbanding and its not showing anything from the 2 realms i play on/have warbanded?

im not entirely sure

[left elk]

If we are sticking with full s4 4pc are we still speccing into odyns fury?

[frigid cipher]

why is this not centered

.........

[dense elbow]

[compact knot]

yeah

[knotty lotus]

the spec tree is wider than the class tree isnt it?

[crisp prism]

71 ? how

[left elk]

Just throwing that on cd I assume

For st that is

[dense elbow]

S3 build, not S4

[meager void]

give it a try later because I had a similar issue and it solved itself.
On my case, it was only showing cata classic toons for a few hours. It fixed itself after that.

[forest owl]

i can get 71% with neck swap but i lose about 6-7% vers and sims show me vers still pumping

[feral acorn]

where we can find raid talents for fury in this pre patch

[compact knot]

mine was showing 4 retail servers than randomly starting showing 5, went to sleep and noting changed

ill see though in a couple hours

[left elk]

Wowhead

[dense elbow]

I lack vers heavy stuff with mastery, sadly

[forest owl]

weirdly my 1.3m BB hits were using 2p+2p, when i went back s4 4p i couldnt get anymore than 1m crits

[still spear]

I have so much of all stats that the robot is telling me to get much more versa now

[frank dawn]

you have to have 4 stacks of the S4 buff to match the damage bonus from 2pc S3

doesn't happen very often

[dense elbow]

bot is currently very haste hungry :v

[frank dawn]

obviously you get the S4 buff more often, but yeh

[hardy cargo]

S3 2p only buffs OF, not BB/bt

[crisp prism]

i was about to ask how much haste you have cuz 71 -38 is really high numbers 😄

[hardy cargo]

I think?

No im stupid disregard

[frank dawn]

nah, the 2pc also buffs your BT

lol

[hardy cargo]

Yeah I dunno why I was thinking the 4p was the cdr+extra BT dam

[forest owl]

yeah i forgot thats why my BBs hit harder in this set i forgot it buffed BB also

[dense elbow]

27%, my sweet spot rotationaly :v

Rest is all just OF amp

Yeye, I am playing (4) too

dont worry

Oh, I know how I can amp my dam quite a bit

[fair star]

I sold my s3 tier

Except my chest

Idk why i still have that

Maybe gonna ask blizz for a lil item restoration

[dense elbow]

saved

[hardy cargo]

I just saved the whole set personally, I look in item restore and realized I still had it in bags LOL

[forest owl]

for some reason i still have tomb of sargeras tierset in my bank lol

[dense elbow]

Good choice, keep it there

so many good meories in here

[crisp prism]

i have eli and argus trinket

😢

[icy fossil]

hello warrior enjoyers, out of curiosity since i dont play this class

whats going on in prepatch that i had a 511 war in my party bursting for 3 mil? shits crazy

[eternal sundial]

It got a bit burstier

[warm crag]

that was me i just pressed my buttons really well

[left elk]

https://tenor.com/view/spinning-balance-skating-rotate-spin-gif-16080505

Spin to win

[dense elbow]

Basically what Phil said, our dam profile just got more frontloaded.

We fall off during sustained mass AoE

[unreal onyx]

in ST and aoe we basically go CB>BB>RB>BB, right?

[dense elbow]

basically ye

[unreal onyx]

unless enraged BB from OF

[icy fossil]

i figure, this was a low AA so thats probably where you shine the most lol

[dense elbow]

Ye, we shine on anything low, in the 10s I did for testing, I deleted packs alone - once that no longer happens, things wont look as scewed

So, I did 700-900k, others did 300-400k overall

Ethical gaming

[icy fossil]

based

[dense elbow]

As BDK, I brought warlocks/mages, they stomp on Fury AoE dps

and hard

[past shell]

what is OF?

[meager void]

I had similar millage yesterday on RLP13
and had 2 ret guildies pulling their teeth out while it was happening

[unreal onyx]

odyns fury

[past shell]

ah of course ty

[errant steppe]

has an1 got a macro that casts raveger @cursor when talented and bladestorm when talented?

[vernal stump]

are folks really goin back to last seasons set to go 2/2 even with decreased Ilvl?

[frank dawn]

it's a minor gain if you have it

not a big deal if you don't

[dense elbow]

It is a minor-very minor benefit, to go 2/2, but most just do it for fun. 4p S3 is also very popular for fun :P

Only way to make Fury Crit millions in a single hit after all

[vernal stump]

ok so not that big a deal then. I sold that mess off to clear bag space. I wouldnt have thought backing up on ilvl would have eventually had any benefit.

[dense elbow]

Dont worry about it, if ya not in it for the hype part of it - ya aint missing out really

But OF actually doing dam is kinda fun - it is a once in a lifetime event

[frank dawn]

they'll buff titanic rage today on the beta build

I believe

[rigid stirrup]

and nothing better than seeing people confused on how the lower ilvl brown class is gapping everyone

[dense elbow]

"how does burst dam profiles work, a mystery!"

[cobalt cliff]

#showtooltip
/cast [known:Ravager,@cursor]Ravager;[known:Bladestorm]Bladestorm

[vernal stump]

we are a month out from TWW making it all irrelevant anyway. just tryin to stay effective for whatever keys/raid I run between now and then

[frank dawn]

frost DK is also a blaster

[balmy shore]

most important update of this patch :3 anyone else's warband also have 4 warriors :3

[dense elbow]

Yep

well, I placed my BDK there too

[errant steppe]

thanks a lot

[balmy shore]

then that's THREE

[dense elbow]

4th got gutted, cause of OF nerfs

[radiant plank]

4 warriors? I dont even play 4 characters

[dense elbow]

Only your one warrior, no other specs at all?

I respect it

[balmy shore]

1 class 1 spec he is arm

1 arm

[radiant plank]

Arm

[dense elbow]

Walhe with 1 arm beat what 99% can do with 4 arms

[eternal sundial]

Philwar, philwar, philwarrior and idk going on the warbane

Bane

Band

[bitter palm]

i have arm

[dense elbow]

The day Phil swaps profile pic, I am doomed

[radiant plank]

Lifting weights +20% aura buff for arm warrior

[bitter palm]

hi arm

i am also arm

[radiant plank]

https://tenor.com/view/armswarrior-warrior-warriorwow-armswow-armswarriorwow-gif-27099127

[dense elbow]

I still think ya should enjoy icecream more tho

[radiant plank]

Hi arm

[eternal sundial]

Ive done so multiple times and it's always horribly confusing for most

[dense elbow]

dont do that to us

you are psyduck man in my head

[mint pond]

im trying to figure out when exactly the screen lights up on both sides and the rampage ability's border glows. I dont see any buffs appearing. What is that circumstance?

[radiant plank]

@bitter palm are u gonna play Sarm or Carm

[bitter palm]

carm

[radiant plank]

80 rage

[radiant plank]

🤝

[mint pond]

thats it?

[radiant plank]

thats it

[balmy shore]

yeah

LOL

[dense elbow]

They really want you to notice

[radiant plank]

Most complex fury mechanic

hitting 80 rage

[flat river]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/848490155140710411/1237677298145296424/bladestorm.gif

[bitter palm]

but ngl

[mint pond]

i'd figure the fact that you see your rage bar is filling up is enough

[bitter palm]

with these exe changes

sarm gonna be giga

big sd

[mint pond]

but i guess fury cant be dumber 😄

[sinful spoke]

theres no way

[balmy shore]

they need to cater to us

[sinful spoke]

it sims higher

[radiant plank]

I believe in Sarm

[sinful spoke]

with 80 ilvl lower

[balmy shore]

we need to know when to hit rampage

without the red we won't know

[flat river]

i have my fury warrior, frost DK, survival hunter, and destruction warlock in there

[dense elbow]

I personally really like visual ques like that

[balmy shore]

ew WARLOCK

stinky

ultimate stink

[eternal sundial]

stinky

[dense elbow]

Gala warlock main, hm, things make sense now

[mint pond]

you are in black council lol

[flat river]

im not

i just have her

[dense elbow]

Sure

... sure

[flat river]

i have a good mog for her'

and i only play 2 char

[eternal sundial]

To hate

[flat river]

i put frost dk and fury warrior

[dense elbow]

we are here for you when you are ready to drop us some cookies, ok?

[flat river]

and the other 2 for mog

[mint pond]

the mog from nighthold seems best for wl

[honest sundial]

any dead servers unite in pain?

[mint pond]

pretending to be gul dan

[flat river]

real?

[turbid halo]

is Hero Rotation not working for Fury yet?

[dense elbow]

No hero talents, so no

[flat river]

its kinda funny that i dont have s3 set

but i have s1

[balmy shore]

im in all of the class discords i don't think i've read a message in that one before

[dense elbow]

Sure...

sure.

[balmy shore]

show pic

[dense elbow]

By the wording, Gala clearly is more affectionate towards his warlock. It is "the fury warrior", but warlock is "it is her"

[mint pond]

onlyfans 😄

[dense elbow]

[mint pond]

ew. women.

[flat river]

sec

[mint pond]

🤮

[balmy shore]

haha yea am i right hate women!!

wow!!

[mint pond]

look guys its an emoji blowing shrek

[flat river]

warlock mog

[mint pond]

yeah! hate women! Wooo!

[dense elbow]

Not bad, but warlock tho

yuck

[balmy shore]

goth mommy

[flat river]

ok where do i do that'

[flat river]

real

[mint pond]

wheres the hood and chains and moar skulls

[sinful spoke]

yall

i just did a 14 nelth

and i took aggro

every pull

[dense elbow]

how?

[flat river]

real

[sinful spoke]

tanks do

0 dmg

[mint pond]

no i think theres some bug or something

[dense elbow]

BDK pumps, what you on about?

Does what, 800-900 on pull

[mint pond]

i was 2nd dps as tank yesterday and was losing aggro randomly

[sinful spoke]

well this one i was with didnt

[dense elbow]

BDK?

[mint pond]

i was prot war 2nd in dps and still losing aggro

[sinful spoke]

yes

[dense elbow]

Did you wait for shatter?

[mint pond]

i even asked if someone was taunting

[dense elbow]

Aka: DND, into shatter

[dense elbow]

oh my

[sinful spoke]

and this is with us wiping

[dense elbow]

that overall?

[sinful spoke]

yeah

[dense elbow]

He prob just not used to playing BDK

I guess

[mint pond]

is that on boss or on packs? or overall?

[sinful spoke]

overall

[mint pond]

thats low

[sinful spoke]

yeah it is

[mint pond]

especially for a 14

on boss maybe, but overall thats real bad

[flat river]

i have a 460 chestplate from last season

and bought the 441 hands

[dense elbow]

this is my Nelth 12

[flat river]

should i buy the helm instead

because chest gives big armor

[mint pond]

i just sold a full tier set from S1 taht was in my bank

[sinful spoke]

sim it

whichever loses the least dmg from secondaries

[hardy cargo]

Hat chest and legs are all the same stat budget

[dense elbow]

Helm gotta be the highest ilvl you can get, so get anything but

[hardy cargo]

So it likely boils down to what are u replacing// shoulders are on the same stat budget as hands so that’s prolly best

[flat river]

helm is 454

hands is 441

and i have a 460 chest

i still dont have access to helm yet though

;-;

i need 3000 rep

for helm

and im too lazy

[sinful spoke]

go do one superbloom

[flat river]

yeah thats what i was gunna do

[past pivot]

Keep helm at the highest ilvl. You want that for the enchant.

[flat river]

u can enchant season 3 helm though

[sullen dove]

Didnt arch say 2/2pc is like 2% better or something and that’s assuming the off pieces are 489, if you’re going down to wearing 441 shit you’re probably just better off wearing current 4set

[past pivot]

Optimally, you’d use use gloves and shoulders for s3. But you want 528 for the helm. Higher ilvl = more damage

[sullen dove]

U can but it does less damage

scales off ilvl

[sinful spoke]

it sims higher

[sullen dove]

Ya but with your pieces at 441?

[sinful spoke]

yea

[sullen dove]

I’m saying u might be giving up so many stats it’s bad

Unless atp it’s like 1% better

[flat river]

oh

[sinful spoke]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/wfGoM1hzUab7SgwzWVNWwh 3 min fight

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/1XWP9r9AEDbvKUCWoDZWJk

5 min fight

[dense elbow]

This explains why he couldnt keep threat from you

[sinful spoke]

[flat river]

so i should stick with chest and hands

[sinful spoke]

sim it

[flat river]

and wait till next week for the item restoration

what should i put for sim

the settings

[dense elbow]

doenst matter much, gala. You just need 2/2, either combo doesnt matter

[compact gulch]

Uhm can you guys open your bags?

[dense elbow]

Just remember headpiece got to be highest ilvl possible, due to enchant

[flat river]

kk

[nova plinth]

remove addon mate

[dense elbow]

yep

[compact gulch]

thx ❤️

[mint pond]

just outdated ones

[storm meadow]

hello there, Blood Craze show still as 393951 but it seems like it's not updating in my Bloothirst WA 😭

[flat river]

2-pc 2-pc is a downgrade for me kek

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/qZ1fFnuMqF9gBV37KTfPjj

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/psUgRjwK7gfaRuYoULscdV

am i simming incorrectly or

[summer quail]

bruh your s3 tier pieces are super low ilvl

[flat river]

so is his

[eternal sundial]

Shoulder + gloves is optimal

[eternal sundial]

The rest of his gear is better

[flat river]

so ur saying im mid

[sinful spoke]

yes

[flat river]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-cat-smol-small-ragey-gif-26398063

ill see and restore some more stuff

next week

insha2allah

[summer quail]

you guys are running different talents

[flat river]

wait really?

[summer quail]

and different fight duration sims

[sullen dove]

oh yeah... its all comin togetherr

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/fkn7CAQsPXBK7fZWtUgELR

assuming its super high in part to the tmy simpadding setup of 65% bsl

but idk

[ebon junco]

i made fury sim like 420k

or 424k

[sullen dove]

[ebon junco]

b4 prepatch

[dreamy trellis]

Did the pre patch change something in our mastery calculation?

[dapper goblet]

only noobs think 65%+ bsl is simpadding

[sullen dove]

[radiant plank]

@balmy shore Cool new feature

[dense elbow]

That isnt even troll

[sullen dove]

wonder if this is what u see if u only got 1 character

[dense elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/hug-warm-hug-depressed-hug-gif-4585064738068342394

[polar narwhal]

less rating required for 1% mastery or something

and slight bump to secondary stats

[dreamy trellis]

Kk so its not just a feeling 🙂 thx

[unreal onyx]

we gaming

surely it will lock in

[eternal sundial]

Yes but ion remember that shit

[surreal blaze]

I assume everyone's item restoration is broken currently?

[eternal sundial]

Make a philwar

And i make a walhe

[sullen dove]

u know u can look at rankings already and see

[surreal blaze]

No way to get my Season 3 stuff back right now

[eternal sundial]

GAPPED

[eternal sundial]

Looks like it's bricked yes

[sullen dove]

my guild doesnt do those side bosses anymore... very sadge...

[surreal blaze]

I feel like it's showing my pre server move... from like 7 years ago

[sullen dove]

surely after we do 1 more round of fyrakk then i am cut loose and can become mercenary for people

[surreal blaze]

doesn't even have Area 52 on it

[radiant plank]

I was thinking of race changing my gnome so just might

[dense elbow]

To Nelf?

[radiant plank]

to mechagnome

[dense elbow]

[junior gale]

Disgusting

[unreal onyx]

Disgusting

[eternal sundial]

What race should ur vvalhefan char be

[ebon junco]

I can inspire you with names

[junior gale]

Treating your homies right I see Tmy

[dense elbow]

Why doesnt any of those name suprise me

[eternal sundial]

Where kidpuncherx

[ebon junco]

goner

[eternal sundial]

You need toesuckerx

[sullen dove]

Homiekisserx

[dense elbow]

we need an admin, halp

[brave totem]

did we get a huge damage buff?

[sullen dove]

yes

(not as huge as arms but yes)

[brave totem]

like wtf is this numbers .D

[dense elbow]

These are the numbers we should've had, but was denied all of DF

[rustic axle]

Im so hyped about it

[brave totem]

i dealt triple damage of the other 2 dps in the dungeon

and i am 480

[sullen dove]

check this very relevant and ethical breakdown that surely wasn’t only the result of me playing with dubious creatures

[rustic axle]

Doing more dmg then my monk 10 ilvls higher

[brave totem]

this feels like a bug

[dense elbow]

Why is OF so low?

[sullen dove]

Cuz there’s 3 different instances of it?

and roar > of

[rustic axle]

Shhh dont jinx it

[dense elbow]

[sullen dove]

Ya when u click the breakdown two of them combine

[dense elbow]

Still above

[sullen dove]

Your 96mil is my 112mil

[hollow elk]

Time to necro my old tier two gloves and shoulders hu.

[upbeat swan]

what are the best slots for 2pc 2pc? I'm guessing shoulders gloves?

[sullen dove]

And the smaller part is the 32mil whatever at the bottom

Combined its like 144m

[dense elbow]

It is just how burst AoE profiles work - we are very frontloaded, so until content lasts for long enough - we will look super OP.

As things averages out, we aren't. We will do 900k, where Lock does 1.5mill and so on

[sullen dove]

i think it’s initial hit is the 30m and dot is the 100mil

and then offhand initial hit too for some reason is separate

[dense elbow]

All I know is that your OF game is weak

[sullen dove]

[flat river]

guys i figured out why i couldn't find my tier sets in item restoration

[dense elbow]

[sullen dove]

very odd link to reply to

[flat river]

i DID have them in my bank

[modest condor]

no OF is really weird in details

[flat river]

my bad

[modest condor]

it's split in 3

first mainhand hit and dot
both offhand hits
second mainhand hit

[flat river]

but i turned them to dust for leggo

[sullen dove]

[dense elbow]

[sullen dove]

That is like

beyond insanity

[flat river]

https://tenor.com/view/pain-are-we-suffering-swag-kruglik-yahicord-gif-21495687

[dense elbow]

Only you - I am having a blast blastin'

[flat river]

i still have items that fit that slot though

like that arent tier from season 3

in my restore

so possible

CAN WE GET MUCH HIGHER

so high...

do u think a full warrior run

how fast will we clear it

[dense elbow]

Affix says no fun allowed

[brave totem]

i still have tier set 3 maybe its not that bad :D

[polar narwhal]

Petition to rename Odyn's Fury to Brodyn's Fury.

[dense elbow]

Denied, twice over.

[polar narwhal]

[flat river]

Real denied

[sullen dove]

it will be when odyn is outed as like titan hitler

cuz he's a piece of shit

and then have to rename it cuz twitter mob gets upset

[brave totem]

bladestorm casts blood thrist multiple times it crits of cd gets reduced multiple times

its not bad

[flat river]

Rename it "Odyn's Fuwy UwU"

[dense elbow]

Odyn chose me, when noone else did

[sullen dove]

dont think full s3 4set is worth as much

giving up a lot more stats and like free 12% ramp dmg

but i mean can sim it ig and see

[brave totem]

i am not giving up anything

i returned after s3

:D

[dense elbow]

If you just want to see tons of big BB crits tho - it worth

[flat river]

Isn't it funny that Odyn gave his powers to fury warrior only

[sullen dove]

o lol

pog

[brave totem]

i dont have s4 yet

[flat river]

And prot got neltharion power from shield

[balmy shore]

😭

so lonely

[flat river]

While arms got

GROUND SMASH

[modest condor]

we do a little padding http://puu.sh/KbAKp/033c913a9e.png

[sullen dove]

on what

spears? surely not

[modest condor]

adds in gnarlroot

[sullen dove]

[dense elbow]

Aint pad, adds gotta die!

[sullen dove]

godking glazeface take

[chrome relic]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/1CUPGfjDSTLVaBQsPSziVT

dropped rav picked up 2/2 VC and Dancing blades for odyn and the sim is similar

i think maybe 200-400dps swing?

[sullen dove]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/baqUTwuBgaYSCCnYhCY5e4

[past pivot]

Are folks running 3-minute or 4-minute sims for ST? Or sticking with 5 and dropping Signet out?

[sullen dove]

eh 5 and signet cuz like w/e been the standard forever

even if not completely applicable to most bosses if only some use less time and others still use 5 min it just gets weirdge and confusing

this at least is my opinion on the matter

[chrome relic]

I usually stick to 5. If you really think its under three i'd go augury/incarnate icon

or oce

[sullen dove]

it do seem not using rav and having db is like 2k dps up

but also still in context of i dont think odyns nerf is thru on raidbots yet

[junior gale]

5 min is the standard unless your simming for a specific boss that dies in under 5

[dense elbow]

Wonder if aug is worth it atm, with a huge portion of our dam pushed from effects to hits

[past pivot]

Only end bosses last longer than 5 minutes and that’s often because of RP and multiple phases.

Most die in less than 4.

[junior gale]

Yep

[jade hornet]

Is it expected that unhinged is eating a ww stack?

[sullen dove]

ya

its cleaving the bts

[hardy shuttle]

The bts get cleaved

[sullen dove]

should eat more than 1

i think 2 usually

[junior gale]

Yup 2

[unreal onyx]

fury feels really slow now in prepatch

[sullen dove]

spec out of powerful enrage

simple as

[jade hornet]

cool cool confused me at first, i only tested bladestorm on the beta so I didn't notice

[junior gale]

Then switch off powerful eneage

[unreal onyx]

tf is powerful enrage

[junior gale]

A talent

[unreal onyx]

I am not specced into that

[junior gale]

Then fury isn't any slower than it was last patch.

[heavy galleon]

Hey guys

how to find pre patch talent ?

[junior gale]

Goto wowhead

[unreal onyx]

can it be bc of the old 2p lacking stats?

both pieces we replace have haste with one being haste heavy

[sullen dove]

i mean maybe a tiny bit

but like i wouldnt think 2% haste is noticeable

out of like 60 something when youre enraged

[rugged maple]

Anyone find a non-buggy Details or a workaround for live?

[junior gale]

Dl the alpha version of details

[upbeat sentinel]

Do warband banks work now

[dense elbow]

Fury life atm

[unreal onyx]

hmmm

[dusk vault]

where it sels ?

[bleak trench]

do we really need to play odyn's fury? i was hoping to not add a keybind

[dense elbow]

Place it where you had slam

[frank dawn]

It's just taking the place of Onslaught no? or slam I guess

[eternal sundial]

have u never raided on first day of any patch

[dark frost]

You dont gotta press any buttons you dont want to

[junior gale]

To be fair Wednesday isn't usually the first day

[eternal sundial]

cut out the important info

[junior gale]

[unreal onyx]

no, since I was R1 on other bosses too and got a 100 in the preview

but with the other R1s I got a 0

idk the logic behind that

[hardy cargo]

There are no locked in logs for compare it to, so it prolly auto populates to 0

[clever belfry]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/781981140009091075/1265750143546822710/image.png?ex=66a2a52e&is=66a153ae&hm=6b3393c1b466ad73c64081f17f8a03a15c4a585c975522ddaadb0dfe72518460&

[eternal sundial]

🙏

REVVEZ IS HIM

[rotund steppe]

[modest condor]

lmao

[dense elbow]

Ok, M+ with a subpar tank is Fury Healing Simulator

[storm meadow]

Any working bloodthirst crit tracker WeakAura ?

[gleaming siren]

I can CONFIRM this is real

[compact siren]

THEY DELETED THE TWEET!

[dense elbow]

Tinfoil hats on

[edgy widget]

https://tenor.com/view/puppet-awkward-looking-what-side-eye-gif-15476992

[warm crag]

hit tweet

[clever belfry]

u made max delete it didnt u

[edgy widget]

https://tenor.com/view/keep-secret-secret-pas-un-mot-stand-by-me-no-word-gif-21201403

[dense elbow]

He did, dont want peeps to spam him all day long after all

Fury is now the benchmark check if a tank is decent or nah

[sullen dove]

for some reason treemouth just instantly died in a +12?

at like half hp

that is not how much hp he should have

[dense elbow]

He just does that

[junior gale]

He did that to me too in my BH run

[edgy widget]

Did you use Execute?

[junior gale]

Tree mouth def bugged

[dense elbow]

Oh, sword - what your overall OF in that one?

[sullen dove]

when i get to end

(i died alot)

[dense elbow]

I gonna judge you for weak OF dam

[dense elbow]

:3

[covert blaze]

Good day fury chat

Are the sims fixed yet

[junior gale]

Fury go brrrr

[warm crag]

no but hit tweet just dropped

[covert blaze]

what

[warm crag]

scroll up

[clever belfry]

he goes to 1 hp

when he goes into shield

[sullen dove]

dying on last boss

pack pulled into it with fuckin frost dk dragon

rip overall

[dense elbow]

excuses are building I see

[sullen dove]

what is blud yappin about

do i need to bring up the tierlist again

[dense elbow]

[sullen dove]

overall so far is poggin

[dense elbow]

That is more like it, OF on top like it should be

[sullen dove]

i mean

it was on top on the last one too

[dense elbow]

Smh, you don't channel OF energy enough yet - but soon, you will master it

[sullen dove]

this is when it combines when u click it

[sullen dove]

what in gods name could you be bloodbathing that much

[dense elbow]

Things at low health, for 1.3mill crits

[sullen dove]

[unreal onyx]

is tindral perma-bugged?

[south kayak]

:3

[unreal onyx]

or just a chance?

[edgy widget]

idk is it? find out before my raid time plz

[modest condor]

no it's just a chance

[eternal sundial]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046046500578406479/1265022442599088192/makesweet-volebs.gif

[edgy widget]

what's the bug?

[sullen dove]

he just becomes jesus i think

[edgy widget]

he just doesn't phase?

[modest condor]

he just stays in the air after flying

[edgy widget]

lmao amazing

need that warlock perma-dot tech

[dire vigil]

Would you still want RA even with S4 4P in m+? If so, does any other talent change for m+?

[clever belfry]

rng

[sullen dove]

think identical talents for the most part

[clever belfry]

we had it bug 7 times in a row

[eternal sundial]

still ra

[dire vigil]

Cool, thank you! It’s fun pressing OF again.

[south kayak]

He got tired of dying

[dark frost]

4ps3 or 2p2p

[sullen dove]

2/2

[dark frost]

What key level

[nocturne dragon]

this is using the alpha detail?

[sullen dove]

yea

[modest condor]

we had it good 2 times and then bugged 2 times

[unreal onyx]

for us 2/2 so far

[sullen dove]

Ein vergeblicher Versuch.

[unreal onyx]

did you also have a try without it?

[limpid elbow]

hey

[clever belfry]

no

[rigid stirrup]

so he just stays up there and shield absorb shield cast just goes off?

[limpid elbow]

is fury warrior going to be usable for m+?

[sullen dove]

yes?

[modest condor]

yes

[rigid stirrup]

that stinks

[junior gale]

Blizz tryna make sales out here hard by making tswift a wall again

[warm crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/789342812507471872/1265728603337789641/image.png?ex=66a2911f&is=66a13f9f&hm=affd9e6f926c35070113a2bcc91f57f1082ebc1115adbad9eab85b73d6fbbf5f&

[dense elbow]

always has been useful, so yes?

If you mean #1 pick, unlikely

[fair star]

Troar got softcapped

[feral ivy]

yall doing 800k im doing only 610 😦

[drowsy iron]

anyone ever had an issue where all of your spells disappear from bars every logout?

[sullen dove]

o no it got softcapped

(still second damage)

[unreal onyx]

we just got tindral without the bug

pull 3

[soft viper]

grats

[sullen dove]

i think that kinda thing particularly happens if you dc after making changes

like get forced off the game any other way except hitting the logout button

[drowsy iron]

it just happens every time which is weird

[feral ivy]

sword are you doing cd on release?

[sullen dove]

but if that yea idk

[drowsy iron]

ohhh

like if i just

close the game window

it will gg

[sullen dove]

yeah

[drowsy iron]

ok

[sullen dove]

log out once natty

should save

idk y that happens just always seems to be the case for me

like reactivating action bars for example

if u just alt f4 and log back in they're back to being gone

[sullen dove]

what does this mean

like dying on cd?

if so yes

[feral ivy]

nah like oden and everythign u using them on cd or u waiting for them to line up with anything?

[sullen dove]

o i mean pmuch just roar and odyns together always since they're both 45sec

and then often yea have everything all at once

but thats usually how u get instakilled

lol

[dense elbow]

why are pug tanks so trash tier

wth

[drowsy iron]

LOL did it again, i guess ima just install an addon even tho im rly just questing/derping

[sullen dove]

yea once u fix again just like log out normally and should be aight

[drowsy iron]

first time since vanilla this has happened lmao

[heavy galleon]

Rage generation is so hard now no ?

[sullen dove]

ive noticed it on and off a few years now i think

but idk

[drowsy iron]

yeah i did, but it outplayed me again

[sullen dove]

o..

[drowsy iron]

not sure

[feral ivy]

tree are u using elvui ?

or bartending

if anythign i would switch to elvui.. the only time i ever had problems is release date on big stuff like pre patch and expan release

but thats for all addons

[heavy galleon]

we should build more haste now ?

I feel so slow :x

[unreal onyx]

yippieee

[indigo hedge]

Did anyones raging blow into bloodthirst macro break?

[drowsy iron]

havent even installed a ui yet bc i was just leveling 😅

its classic blizzard bug

[indigo hedge]

It casts 1 raging blow but leaves 1 charge up

[drowsy iron]

but ima add one rn

ill try elv, thanks

[indigo hedge]

#showtooltip Raging Blow
/castsequence reset=1 Bloodthirst, Raging Blow

[clever belfry]

ok but why

u have like 3 binds my guy

[warm crag]

no one that takes double damage from ashkandur had this macro

[indigo hedge]

I'm new to fury just trying things out

I don't follow with the ashkandur thing

[sullen dove]

[warm crag]

i'm saying its a silly macro thats all

[sullen dove]

the macro that did exist was bb/rampage when u could back to back do that

tho thats less viable to do cuz crushing blow also good

and u still probably will hit basic bts at some point

erm...

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/f3aEgh3LhrFryG9QdgwnDt

what the freak

[warm crag]

erm what the glorp??

135% BSL uptime?

[sullen dove]

real!

theres no way this is including the odyns nerf

[indigo hedge]

Is bts bloodthirst?

[sullen dove]

arms still only hitting like 515k

[sullen dove]

yes

o maybe it should be on latest

lets see

[clever path]

If you're using s3 2 set do you always take reckless abandon?

[sullen dove]

pretty much yea

o no still 531k swapping to latest simc version

[clever path]

ty ty

[dense elbow]

I swear ppl are sandbaging on purpose to make fury look op

ppl doing 200k dps and so on

what is this

season 2?

[sullen dove]

mfw fury consumes all possible damage to do in .3 seconds

[light peak]

Is fury or arms pumping harder in m+ right now?

[rocky sentinel]

Finally clapping paladins in overall (+15 BH)

[dense elbow]

Fury of you are in lower keys, in 14+ arms is keeping up alright

[sullen dove]

ya i think they're evenish on real keys

arms has disgusting sustain

[light peak]

sounds about what i felt

[sullen dove]

but fury bursts for like 5 mil dps in 10 seconds

[rocky sentinel]

imma test a +17 ruby now so we'll see

[sullen dove]

so just 1shotting packs in like under +10s lol

[light peak]

only tried an 8 so far waiting for friends to come on

[dense elbow]

Godspeed, Bust, tell us if ya still OP

[rocky sentinel]

another paladin here to absolutely demolish on the meters

[covert blaze]

Love bts Jimin is my favourite

[modest condor]

bts is big time socialists right

[spiral orbit]

how come bloodbath is so high on meters when i thought crushing blow was supposed to be prio over it

[dense elbow]

In my case, cause of s3(4)

[spiral orbit]

oh i see

[nocturne dragon]

Well because of the s3 2p set

[sour tundra]

what the heck we take odyn's fury again?

[dense elbow]

(2) was the 150% dam effect? I totally forgotten

[indigo hedge]

I don't see crushing blow when I search my talents/skills?

[flat river]

fury chat is so happy for once

[crystal summit]

Also RA got reworked. It affects BT AND RB now. So you get to use both after each rampage

[nocturne dragon]

But it’s just 1 more month I am not going to be bothered asking for returned item.

[crystal summit]

Is the replacement for RB when using RA and then rampaging (i.e. the upgraded RB)

[nocturne dragon]

Because it’s the enhanced raging blow if you take reckless abandon.

[indigo hedge]

Ok cool I see it. You take abandon for m+?

[stiff barn]

Am

[deft thicket]

So it is better now to use 2p from s3 and 2p from s4? Doesn't it affect ilvl?

[stiff barn]

2p 2p is like 2% better than 4p

[dense elbow]

Best is in theory (2)(2), but you can do whatever. S4(4) was what, 5% behind or something?

[stiff barn]

So up to you really

[crisp prism]

i'm simming 40k more with 2-2

[stiff barn]

Think Archi said like 2ish%

[deft thicket]

Oh I see and which slots are good to use for each of them?

[crisp prism]

maybe sim results are broken idk

4 set s4 sims 480k