XD
#fury
flat river
south kayak
HELLO
covert blaze
are you on the na page of the website
radiant plank
its disabled
south kayak
everything else does
covert blaze
Draenor realm doesn't exist
rolled
south kayak
I guess we play without s3 set
radiant plank
mickey mouse key go +15
flat river
Finally
sullen dove
mickey mouse key go +15
flat river
An invite
covert blaze
https://tenor.com/view/anime-frieren-read-reading-grimoire-gif-76917704457457791...
sniffa
radiant plank
https://tenor.com/view/anime-frieren-read-reading-grimoire-gif-76917704457457791...
I love elves
sullen dove
on jorsh
flat river
Isn't this nsfw
flat river
XD
flat river
North America?
sullen dove
let her absorb knowledge
flat river
Mmm
radiant plank
Go look bizentein playing fury in real key
sullen dove
also over 1m
radiant plank
(he has dream comp monk + druid)
sullen dove
flat river
I think zhai is absorbing something else
radiant plank
he is sustaining 900k ST on AA last boss
south kayak
radiant plank
Could be 1million if he was arm
south kayak
serene moat
Fury untankable. wb SL playstyle
covert blaze
alpine steppe
Anyones Raging Blow WA working?
alpine steppe
Nah it straight doesn't register anymore.
radiant plank
go check loading conditions
serene moat
uncheck the "talent" marker
alpine steppe
Talent fixed it ty
junior gale
or just select raging blow
serene moat
the spell id is fine
junior gale
in talents
sudden tusk
Nah it straight doesn't register anymore.
is that afner
alpine steppe
Yeah but I keep updating it since it's my favourite WA
I'll continue with it into TWW 
flat river
Guys
grim topaz
umm .. fury c 2/2 is better than arms in Aoe?
flat river
Anyone else having this issue
edgy widget
umm .. fury c 2/2 is better than arms in Aoe?
it kind of depends; Fury is bustier, but Arms has incredible sustained damage
gloomy nebula
Hi Archi
edgy widget
hi
flat river
Hi Archi senpai 
edgy widget
holy fk 2pc/2pc is terrifying
should have seen it yesterday before the hotfix lmao
gloomy nebula
who could ever say no to that
What you want
edgy widget
right now, sleep
south kayak
What'd they hotfix?
They nerfed OF damage
gloomy nebula
Okay tomorrow then ❤️
faint whale
Hello archi
edgy widget
hi
indigo arch
still this is wild, so much more fun than ravager
full send cowabunga
only hitting target dummies and already having massive fun
BIG brown bar in details
edgy widget
it's more or less the same Bladestorm Fury had in SL
But Signet gave it a bad wrap
this version is so much cleaner, and unhinged pipes
faint whale
Unhinged giga good
indigo arch
always loved fury having bladestorm
south kayak
BS > Ravager
indigo arch
so satisfying in pvp too
bladestorming a cheapshot because a rogue was bad and didnt sap
the honorbuddy accusations never got old
robust widget
I was pumping the dummy a bit with unhinged and was like "where did my Bloodbath go" during Ravenger 
edgy widget
ngl, that shit tripped me up SO many times in simc
I kept trying to troubleshoot, couldn't figure out why Bloodcraze and Merc Assault didn't seem to always stack
south kayak
Why is Hybrid aoe not using WB?
edgy widget
until I remembered Unhinged, and I've been playing this on alpha/beta for months lol
robust widget
unhinged even outplaying Archi
indigo arch
Ain't no way I go back to s4 4pc, who cares about the ilvl loss
hollow raptor
Where can I find some talent builds for pre patch?
radiant plank
Why is Hybrid aoe not using WB?
warbreaker?
south kayak
warbreaker?
Yes
indigo arch
wowhead has updated ones
radiant plank
Ye
south kayak
ok
indigo arch
Now to see how dramatically lower s4 4pc burst is
edgy widget
Why is Hybrid aoe not using WB?
just a build option for more priority damage; Revvez suggested it after beta testing and realizing you really don't lose much as much multitarget as you gain in ST
indigo arch
This makes me wanna head off to do an AA bad
imagine the speed I can die at
the moment those lashers gather
idle oriole
Okay I know this has been asked a thousand times but I am low IQ, where can I see the talents we are using right now and if it is 2p/2lp
edgy widget
I brought it to the brains, they played around and confirmed... it's a pretty decent tradeoff that doesn't really hurt the build or gameplay at all
median marsh
while bladestorm is on - i cannot cast rampage (or other spells?)
radiant plank
I brought it to the brains, they played around and confirmed... it's a pretty de...
What brains, its all dent
edgy widget
Okay I know this has been asked a thousand times but I am low IQ, where can I se...
in the pins
in #updates-midnight
or on https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/warrior/fury/ under load/export build
idle oriole
in the pins
in <#1234949058121171069>
or on https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc...
Thanks ❤️
edgy widget
while bladestorm is on - i cannot cast rampage (or other spells?)
yes that's how Bladestorm works
but Unhinged casts some stuff for you, so it's not a bad trade
median marsh
tyty
south kayak
just a build option for more priority damage; Revvez suggested it after beta tes...
What helps with Execute rage with this build? seems it doesn't use anything for execute rage
no Critical Thinking or Finishing blows
do you not use Execute?
indigo arch
this is the best fury has felt in so long
edgy widget
nothing, it's not really set up for spamming Execute (keep in mind this was made prior to the hotfix buffs)
but you can drop 1 point in Bloodborne for Finishing Blows if you want
indigo arch
having easily accessible shockwave too, unf
visual jewel
hello good people where do i find talents for prepatch
radiant plank
visual jewel
yeah chcekced pins
edgy widget
<a:feedback:1260831993214795827>
welcome to my life
graceful ruin
why is details not showing me where my damage came from even though it's updated
maybe it's bugged
indigo arch
hello how i play videogame
junior gale
update details to alpha version
faint whale
Details isnt working properly atm
graceful ruin
i see
indigo arch
use the alpha on curseforge
edgy widget
What helps with Execute rage with this build? seems it doesn't use anything for ...
to be clear though, while it's called a "hybrid" build, the majority of its damage still comes from Cleave
it's still a multitarget build, it's just one with some more ST built in
I'm not saying it's necessarily the best build either, that'll take more prac app; I just wanted to detail a couple different options for people to start off with
faint whale
Yeah u gotta alpha version
indigo arch
and details works
south kayak
to be clear though, while it's called a "hybrid" build, the majority of its dama...
I see
Thanks
graceful ruin
use the alpha on curseforge
how do you get the alpha version on retail?
polar narwhal
it kind of depends; Fury is bustier, but Arms has incredible sustained damage
"bustier" Hmmmmm that would put Fury atop all classes and specs if that is the benefit. 
edgy widget
it's a circumstantial benefit, but it does have its value
one of the historical problems Arms has in raid is that while it has multitarget options, they don't deal their damage nearly as fast as Fury
indigo arch
how do you get the alpha version on retail?
curseforge in files
edgy widget
it's not really worth bladestorming for 5s if everything dies in 3s
flat river
I died
10 times
Cause both boss and adds
Always aggro me
Whoever made this is so accurate
graceful ruin
curseforge in files
sorry, do you mean go to the curseforge files, or?
indigo arch
yes
ravager build saved me from myself
now, I embrace monke
and floor
time to test my new aoe taunt in this bh
flat river
Wdym
U dont like spinning?
Its uber funny though when u have lust and stand in rewind timeflow moment
BS lasted half a second
Felt like i used odyns
XD
mild cargo
Is anyone elses dps thing not showing the break down of the damage being done? in details
wind torrent
Is anyone elses dps thing not showing the break down of the damage being done? i...
It’s broken rn
faint whale
Is anyone elses dps thing not showing the break down of the damage being done? i...
U need to download alpha version of details
kindred notch
need talent for dangeon fury pls guys
flat river
indigo arch
hell check wowhead
charred ledge
Me logging in as fury:
grim topaz
grim topaz
and release spirit
flat river
because thunderous words
flat river
and release spirit
no need to tell me again
grim topaz
sorry
flat river
i died 10 times out of 18
in uldaman
cause i waited 5 seconds before pull
and burst
xD
radiant plank
dying as fury 
flat river
dying as fury <:weird:718676218500874320>
well when u pull the entire dungeon
faint whale
i died 10 times out of 18
This is not a bad number
flat river
and survive for 6-8 seconds before dying
faint whale
At least u didnt die 18 times out of 18
flat river
real
grim topaz
witness me. odyn!
marble goblet
damn, item restoration doesnt show characters on my main server, only the ones from the others -.- i need the old 2set back!!!
slim pollen
Feels so good that I kept my fully upgraded mythic season 3 set in the bank this whole time 😛
shrewd mango
Which Action Bar replacement WeakAuras do yall use?
indigo arch
On a whim I made the error of clicking a "what melee spec won prepatch" video and fury was listed as a loser
like did they even play the same videogame?
in what universe is this not a giant W
warped hamlet
On a whim I made the error of clicking a "what melee spec won prepatch" video an...
link? 😄
indigo arch
the boss damage is full cowabunga
idk it was some bellular video
shoulda been in "won" section
warped hamlet
idk it was some bellular video
Oh, I saw that. There is a lot of disconnect with content creators to be honest. I think it's a mixture of playing the game for too long, looking for controversial opinion to make an interesting video, and probably misunderstanding class design. I see some people complaining that the warrior hero talents aren't flashy enough, but if I wanted flash, I'd play a caster: I play warrior for impact.
forest owl
fury just feels so good with everything lining up, bladestorm, roar, of
warped hamlet
In fact, no matter what state the specc is in, I'd play around with arms just for demolish
indigo arch
fury just feels super satisfying
and not talking about bosses dying before avatar ending
LMAO
trim obsidian
PSA: the quartermaster in the emerald dream sells a S3 helm and gloves for order resources which can be catalysted
grim topaz
PSA: the quartermaster in the emerald dream sells a S3 helm and gloves for order...
itm lvl?
flat river
fury just feels super satisfying
in m+ or
indigo arch
period
flat river
my tier set from last season is so low ilvl that i feel like using it will be a dps decrease due to armored to the teeth
junior gale
Fury Slayer feels incredibly fun to play
indigo arch
I don't rly raid but yea
trim obsidian
itm lvl?
454 sadly, but good enough until item restoration i guess
gloves are only 441 even
warped hamlet
fury just feels super satisfying
That's really all it needs to do. I've seen the same criticism with Subtlety rogue, that all the hero talents do is make you weapons glow, but with tww the specc is a lot smoother to play (even though it still takes a lot of effort to get any kind of decent number), and that's kind of all it needs to do. It's called subtlety, what is it supposed to do... megaton explosions?
trim obsidian
don't have an option until they fix the item restoration
summer quail
don't have an option until they fix the item restoration
could be an issue on your end, i cleared my cache and then it worked
south kayak
They did?
indigo arch
it's the same condemn anim, but without the cool red condemn effect
warped hamlet
they nerfed execute animation
How so?
south kayak
I don't like the red animation
indigo arch
It's more of a grayish color
south kayak
so thats a buff for me
Yeah it looks like a warrior skill now
instead of a blood dk
trim obsidian
could be an issue on your end, i cleared my cache and then it worked
it doesn't show my main server not sure why
south kayak
lmao
indigo arch
I liked the red, got s2 pvp enchant and a fiery set
coarse lion
they did that a few patches ago with all the other covenant changes didnt they?
south kayak
No
indigo arch
No, this seems to be with prepatch
flat river
my 2-p is low ilvl
indigo arch
GIANT aoe burst
south kayak
They changed all the warrior Execute animations to one I think, Light yellow/grey color
indigo arch
Literal aoe taunt levels of dam
south kayak
They should have nerfed old S3 2p
and just not nerfed the fucking spell
but who knows how these people think
indigo arch
hopefully they buff it when tww hits
flat river
real
south kayak
Now they're gonna fucking forget to buff it back
indigo arch
kneejerk nerfing due to dmg% stacking is silly
south kayak
hopefully they buff it when tww hits
100% they'll forget
indigo arch
yea
south kayak
We'll still have a strong aoe burst
flat river
sudden death stacks 2 times now right?
south kayak
and hope we get an actual 4p now
flat river
i think thats base
junior gale
SD is 2 stacks base
south kayak
Interesting
indigo arch
honestly good talent changes all around
no more bonedust for ww, xuen statue autocasts
lotta stuff
even if new ui makes me ree
fk change
flat river
ok but how am i supposed to do opener for ST
indigo arch
arcane with spellslinger looks rly funny
flat river
frost DK is also really good
clever path
Fdk chad
clever path
War dk monk for me
indigo arch
ww lost so many binds lmao
flat river
https://tenor.com/view/pain-are-we-suffering-swag-kruglik-yahicord-gif-21495687
im happy
indigo arch
wtf
flat river
work hasn't called
indigo arch
read second wind
flat river
it's been 2 hours
flat river
read second wind
we know
paper ocean
if i dont have s3 tier anymore. is it still worth going OF, or is there another build?
flat river
work hasn't called
shit they called me
forest owl
rip
ornate gust
I stopped playing by the end of S3. Do we have bladestorm again? 🌝
Time to zug zug and release spirit 🤣
polar narwhal
Unhinged with current tier is 
forest owl
mid bladestorm and unhinged throws out that bloodthirst and it enrages you again feels satsifying
polar narwhal
Uhhh
random raptor
Do I NEED 2pc/2pc to run the new rotation
If I don't have it, do I just run anger management?
sullen basin
you probably lose damage by not using 4set relevant talents while using 4set
junior gale
doesnt matter if u have 2pc 2pc or 4pc run the new prepatch builds
random raptor
Ok thanks fam
restive tendon
is there a new bloodcraze macro?
restive tendon
or an old one i can use
paper ocean
optimally how much does AM take off reck and bladestorm/ravager's cd?
forest owl
odyns fury, hello old friend 
sullen basin
4 per rampage it says 20 for 1 sec off
depends how many ramps you do
rocky sentinel
Just did +15 Nelth and overall dmg is literally doubled wtf is this dmg?
sullen basin
wish i could see the breakdown but yeah same here (hc gnarlroot)
rocky sentinel
heres my breakdown of the +15 Nelth
median marsh
why TR is before avatar?
(pre patch build for mythic+ talents)
faint whale
plater isn't working
/run C_CVar.SetCVar('loadDeprecationFallbacks', 0) ReloadUI()
u can try this macro
bitter palm
why TR is before avatar?
(pre patch build for mythic+ talents)
thunderous words
faint whale
that fixed for me
bitter palm
i guess
radiant plank
Troar hit damage is 0
the dot is the part that does damage
this way u get 1 more good global inside ava
median marsh
this way u get 1 more good global inside ava
you mean if we avataer right after roar - we get better outcome due to DoT effect?
bitter palm
covert blaze
your titan's torment OF will be buffed by troar
radiant plank
troar is bad initial damage, the big damage comes from dot. If you avatar after Troar press you can use +1 RB, rampage or smth else inside avatar
bitter palm
doesnt odyns
dot tick on press
so its initial dmg + 1 tick
and that tick is buffed by twords
bitter palm
can u recraft my neck
chatting
i have 20k im not paying 15k for a recraft fuck that
radiant plank
why poor
radiant plank
xdd
covert blaze
cant wait to recraft all my shit tomorrow and craft a second set of crafted gear for arms
cedar pilot
So the opener on wowhead says "Charge -> Fyr'alath -> Ravager -> Recklessness -> Rampage -> Avatar -> Champion's Spear -> Bloodbath -> Crushing Blow -> Rampage Odyn's Fury -> Bloodbath -> Crushing Blow -> Rampage" but the Unhinged talent consumes the bloodbath procs so do we want to be casting bloodthirst in that case or just remove the bloodbaths from the opener sequence?
flat river
/run C_CVar.SetCVar('loadDeprecationFallbacks', 0) ReloadUI()
did u hack my pc
oh and execute doesnt light up anymore
:(
from sudden death
rocky sentinel
So the opener on wowhead says "Charge -> Fyr'alath -> Ravager -> Recklessness ->...
Just seeing "Charge -> Fyr'alath" order makes me doubt that entire rotation
sullen basin
last time i charged into fyralath i interrupted the cast with the end of the charge
shell jackal
Yo, what specs are we running now? with s3 2p / s4 2p, do we run the Odyn's Fury setup or the ravager setup 😅
junior gale
goto wowhead look up build tier has no affect on what you play
crisp prism
ok i'm going insane
radiant plank
yes
pearl sequoia
rawr
forest owl
petition to have thunderous roar changed to thunderous rawr
restive tendon
can you even obtain s3 tier lol? at current ilvl?
median marsh
this is confusing
in wowhead guide (ST section) i see this -
but on multi target i see this -
why is the order of avatar and TR is changing?
junior gale
Current ilvl no
flat river
why is the order of avatar and TR is changing?
because wowhead says so
nocturne dragon
Just did +15 Nelth and overall dmg is literally doubled wtf is this dmg?
More like wtf is that mage doing? Why less damage than tank.
flat river
More like wtf is that mage doing? Why less damage than tank.
because not fury warrior
obv
polar narwhal
Mage
L
sullen basin
any of you ripped threat from tanks yet?
it happened to me for the first time on larry and it wasnt fun
proper peak
no time to do proper content, but dummy aoe just feels smoother
polar narwhal
Blizz please fix item resto 😢
woven sapphire
Is there a way to get S3 items except for item restoration?
sullen basin
not that im aware of
unless theres a secret awakened toggle somewhere
i might have deleted mine more than 3 months ago so im fucked
woven sapphire
metoo )))
polar narwhal
Have to restore now all raids are awakened 😦
sullen basin
20 pages so far havent seen it
crisp prism
aoe one makes sense but i dont understand why roar before avatar
slate mica
if you dont have 2p/2p is it better to take onslaught
junior gale
No
faint whale
if you dont have 2p/2p is it better to take onslaught
just copy the talent from wowhead even if u have 4p
its stronger
slate mica
yea thats what im using , noslaught
sullen basin
sims dont work wheres the proof that its stronger i dont see a pin
dark parrot
Stupid question how we get the season 3 set? For the 2+2set
glad coyote
so no event this week eh?
sullen basin
Stupid question how we get the season 3 set? For the 2+2set
beg blizzard
faint whale
Stupid question how we get the season 3 set? For the 2+2set
item restoration
or u can catalyze s3 gears
glad coyote
and is warband bank broken?
faint whale
but other than that no options
faint whale
and is warband bank broken?
ye
polar narwhal
junior gale
If your that desperate for 2pc2pc quartermaster in emerald dreams sells hands and head s3 gear you can cata
fast mural
Were we even supposed to have warband bank access before TWw?
sullen basin
If your that desperate for 2pc2pc quartermaster in emerald dreams sells hands an...
doesnt that require currently unavailable tokens
dark parrot
item restoration
Ty mate
junior gale
doesnt that require currently unavailable tokens
No
sullen basin
Catalizing previous season gear is free
you mean the gear you cant get
ooooooooo just found 483 legs/hands in my bags
god is good
no way 2x 39 ilvl drop is more damage
bitter palm
idk
read the tierset
50% of a busted ability
guaranteed crit on 3 bbs
is funny
and 150% more dmg
hardy cargo
S3 4p is a big ask but I think 2p is good
kindred notch
i need single target build pls
pearl sequoia
wowhead has it
kindred notch
can i have link?
mystic fox
plush ice
is Raidbots updated with the OF nerf, does anyone know?
violet raft
Hi , any macro you have found for CD ?
nocturne dragon
btw anyone felt the game is laggy now?
quartz rampart
btw anyone felt the game is laggy now?
yea it's laggy
junior gale
Over
forest owl
event
unreal onyx
But I won’t gain more io?
hardy prairie
u do
unreal onyx
Oof, I thought rio would be over for S4 now
I had to overtake the (now) 2nd warr on my realm bc R2/R1 didn’t look good
But now he can catch up still 
Is prot busted good with prepatch?
If not I still got a chance
sullen basin
tindral what are you doing in the sky 
unreal onyx
RB and BT in bars? I thought RA was the play now
sullen basin
literally everyone died
wanton mirage
sullen basin
slate sun
tindral what are you doing in the sky <:deadge:900279927138578432>
I can’t DM you but what texture is your details bars?
sullen basin
default
sullen basin
unreal onyx
Doesn‘t every details with no mods look like that
brittle dock
Did they change the spell ID for Execute? My weak auras don't register when it's on cooldown.
unreal onyx
Opacity of background might be diff
unreal onyx
Bova what time is it for u that you are doing tindral
NA is early morning and EU is like 2pm
charred moon
Nerfbat tomorrow?
sullen basin
true
slate mica
is anyone using RA > Anger management
faint whale
https://tenor.com/view/ultrasad-gif-23310565
perfect gif
thorny violet
How is the rotation?
sullen basin
didnt spear get a "shit aint gotta be in it" buff this prepatch
dusty flicker
spear is good on ST although its better to go arms for ST sadly
velvet loom
is there a bullion guide on what to buy first?
summer quail
is there a bullion guide on what to buy first?
yes @mossy fox stream
mossy fox
velvet loom
ah most class discords had it in a pin or faq, thnx
dusty flicker
@mossy fox Still Fury over arms for enjoyment?
mossy fox
yeah
wheat path
Arms rotation feels real weird atm in pre patch
restive peak
Arms rotation is a clunky mess bro
wheat path
That AOE build is literally dogshit on boss fights
mossy fox
for many people, big number = big fun
radiant plank
for many people, big number = big fun
Arms number bigger
dusty flicker
does details work for you guys?
summer quail
does details work for you guys?
sort of, can see how damage i do but don't have damage breakdwon
dusty flicker
that it does true
rocky sentinel
go into details on curseforge, then go to versions and download the TWW-Alpha Fix
you're welcome
mine works perfectly
kindred notch
fury better than arms?
dusty flicker
aoe seems to be better ST not really
rocky sentinel
fury better than arms?
Always
dusty flicker
for feeling fury is much better
warped bone
Arms ST stronger in pre-patch. Feels a bit eh tho
dense elbow
With the OF nerfs, how is the OS Vs OF lookin?
sullen basin
mage got buffed and can now hold an extra weapon
warped bone
Dang mages even taking our DW stuff
restive peak
Prepatch doesn't mean shit anyway, we all do way more dmg and shit will just insta die
past pivot
Arms ST stronger in pre-patch. Feels a bit eh tho
Fury ST outsims Arms for me with 2+2.
warped hamlet
Nerfbat tomorrow?
I wouldn't balance based on prepatch... but that's nasty 😄
upbeat plume
Furys st sims are almost always bait but might be better as without AM downtime dosent hurt as bad (still bad just less so lol)
tulip swallow
Bro they nerfed OF to account for an old set bonus in prepatch
warped bone
Or they nerfed it because it was ridiculouslypowerful?
tulip swallow
that was the correct power level 
dense elbow
Nah, they just slapped it to reduce the impact of OF on our overall profile
dense elbow
OS gets buffed
tulip swallow
Remove OS
summer quail
would be nice if they just reverted the bt nerfs
upbeat plume
Maybe not all of them but yeah now CB just became the focus and I liked it better when it was bt and bloodbath, probably could have left out 1 of the like 4 nerfs too it and it would have been a healthier balance
storm meadow
Quick question : is it still worth going 2P 2P or is 4P good enough ?
upbeat plume
Yes check the pins
storm meadow
I'll read the pins
Can't wait to try out the new rotation
It seems like a near S3 but not quite
velvet loom
Can anyone guide me to a bullion buy list please. Cant seem to find one.
dense elbow
Just buy ashkandi, aug, firedam ring, then whatever you feel like to buy. At this point you should be able to build offset items too
velvet loom
ty
dusty flicker
crisp prism
does details work for you guys?
i can see dps but cant see what does what
dusty flicker
deaials just got an update in curseforge
now it works without errors
although havent chekedd whether dmg breakdown is working or not
crisp prism
this is probably asked a lot today but frenzied or powerful enrage ?
warped bone
Pins
dusty flicker
they are about the same powerful slighlty stronger
In high end gear, Powerful and Frenzied Enrage are virtually equal in ST and ~1.5% apart in MT. RA is ~5-8% ahead in both.
upbeat sentinel
Is Warband bank fixed now?
dusty flicker
wdy men fixxed? waht was the issue with it?
shell jackal
are our best trinkets in keys still augury/idol?
crisp prism
oh rip ra is waaay ahead in multi target
upbeat sentinel
wdy men fixxed? waht was the issue with it?
It was disabled for all of yesterday because it was apparently deleting items when you put them into it
dusty flicker
ohh good to know, havent put anythign into it 😄
cobalt crypt
s3/s4?
crisp prism
i do but i aint gonna scroll through tons of pages to restore
crisp prism
nah i think i'm skipping pre patch raiding
warped bone
I miss when item resto had a search function
upbeat sentinel
For 2% damage increase!?
A 2% damage increase AND not having to deal with this shit ass 4set
winged charm
i cant even recover this far back 💀
lapis lion
A 2% damage increase AND not having to deal with this shit ass 4set
pretty sure either way you dont really deal with it anymore
upbeat sentinel
Also Warband Bank still disabled zz
lapis lion
who cares lmao. what is anyone even using the warband bank for
upbeat sentinel
Massing all my mats into one bank for crafting purposes
and selling purposes too
lapis lion
the warband bank could be deleted and 99% of people wouldnt even know
potent thicket
2p season 3? how do i even get hat now
upbeat sentinel
You don't if you didn't already have a max upgraded piece last season
potent thicket
understandable, have a nice day
upbeat sentinel
Also I got super excited yesterday when I saw that my MoP remix character had the M+/CMODE portals lmao
Thought I was about to smuggle that bitch into retail
still spear
Do we run AM in the M+ build? I though RA was better, but wowhead M+ build has AM
warm pond
I haven't even played mop remix yet
dense drum
Any quick fix for plater and details? to make them worjk
warm pond
I'm too obsessed with smashing other players skulls in pvp
warm pond
Any quick fix for plater and details? to make them worjk
Not sure but I think we gotta wait
dense drum
Was in LFR for tmog and someone wrote smth about a script making both things work. Maybe talking out of his arse
warm pond
Was in LFR for tmog and someone wrote smth about a script making both things wor...
Definitely talking out his arse
paper ocean
is it possible to get s3 tier from the old raid?
crisp prism
does anyone made an addon to revert this spell book change yet
upbeat sentinel
is it possible to get s3 tier from the old raid?
There is no more old raid, all are awakened
paper ocean
so if i deleted s3 tier back at the start of s4, then im fucked xD
upbeat sentinel
just restore item
gloomy loom
Can u still farm fyr alath in war within?
paper ocean
how?
crisp prism
Can u still farm fyr alath in war within?
probably
upbeat sentinel
Can u still farm fyr alath in war within?
almost certainly, you can always farm prior legendaries
paper ocean
how much of a dmg increase is it to run 2p + 2p?
crisp prism
Didnt get in s3 and didn’t play s4, now I have no equip to start farm raid 🥺
gl , i doubt fyrak will be soloable next xpac tho
mint pond
is the dmg difference between sidearm and barbaric training big?
plush ice
sims are super interesting, UF still simming over a point in vicious contempt for me
by like 5K
upbeat sentinel
gl , i doubt fyrak will be soloable next xpac tho
Idk with the massive HP increase we get in TWW, anything with any self healing is gonna be crazy
For farming DF stuff
gloomy loom
gl , i doubt fyrak will be soloable next xpac tho
Still better next xpact, i don’t know how to farm fast equip to clear hc raid in 1 month
vocal gazelle
Plater just got updated for those looking
crisp prism
Idk with the massive HP increase we get in TWW, anything with any self healing i...
doesn't feel like we getting as much dps as hp tho
also fyrak has healing add mechanic
gloomy loom
And taeshalac still best skin so i can wait 🤣
upbeat sentinel
also fyrak has healing add mechanic
that one's an issue ya
but survivability is the game when farming old content from the last expac
and we'll have shittons of that
mint pond
that one's an issue ya
you dont have to heal them really, just make sure they dont get hit
crisp prism
Still better next xpact, i don’t know how to farm fast equip to clear hc raid in...
is it ?
probably will get disabled
gloomy loom
probably will get disabled
What? 😮
gloomy loom
if its being better then tww weapons
No i mean is better for me to farm fyr alath in the next exp, i just want the skin but now is too hard to catch up the ilvl required to farm hc raid in one month
I stopped in s3
crisp prism
No i mean is better for me to farm fyr alath in the next exp, i just want the sk...
ah
tbh you should start from doing lfr and normal now if you really want it
and get somoe embers
crisp prism
agree
gloomy loom
I started mop remix too, how hard is to get mannaroth shoulders? Possibile to get before the end?
eternal sundial
I started mop remix too, how hard is to get mannaroth shoulders? Possibile to ge...
Super ready
Easy **
Do 5 HC garroshs
Or 2 mythic
crisp prism
I started mop remix too, how hard is to get mannaroth shoulders? Possibile to ge...
like 5-6 days
gloomy loom
Yeah today I hit 70, not sure if I can get into groups 🤣 will try, ty
crisp prism
Yeah today I hit 70, not sure if I can get into groups 🤣 will try, ty
you should be able to get into normal groups at worse
upbeat sentinel
The prepatch made a lot of classes in remix insanely broken
so carries will be easier
supple summit
Am i reading Archi's updated post correctly? It's still worth using 2p+2p, but much less than before - before being 2.2%?
gloomy loom
The prepatch made a lot of classes in remix insanely broken
Idk, haven’t logged yet 🤷🏻♂️
supple summit
because if its much less than 2.2% im not going to bother
prime charm
anyone notice that dragon riding or what ever its now called feels significantly slower and that the rate of vigor recharge has gone down as well?
agile kestrel
unlucky i cant go this far back to restore s3 set
serene moat
because if its much less than 2.2% im not going to bother
My ST sim told me to swap to s3 shoulders and gloves for 35k DPS gain. That's closer to 8% gain. Though I don't know if you really can sim the difference, since you partially change playstyle.
supple summit
hm
frozen latch
Hi guys, I want to ask a simple and short question, Talent tree has changed, currently fury/arms is better for M+ and Mraid.
pearl sequoia
Arms for both i believe
unreal onyx
it's normal that plater bugs out and UI WAs like Luxthor's WA are a diff size, right?
vocal gazelle
have you updated them here in the last 15-30 mins?
vocal gazelle
WA had an update I think late last night, luxthor's, not sure specifically on that one
unreal onyx
downloaded the WA again and it still looks fucked
looks like a scaling issue but I didn't change res at all
vocal gazelle
givei t a few to work itself out here post update
next canopy
Can anyone share a MT opener for fury after the new updates? I dunno when to bladestorm, Dragon roar, reck, OF etc
sage shadow
dense elbow
Can anyone share a MT opener for fury after the new updates? I dunno when to bla...
Ava, Roar, spin, OF - pray you are not dead
next canopy
Ava, Roar, spin, OF - pray you are not dead
Ty sir
pearl sequoia
Do you just use reck on CD after opener
vocal gazelle
Ava, Roar, spin, OF - pray you are not dead
maybe give it like 3 seconds heh? 😄
dense elbow
Reck lines up with your CDs if you play RA, if AM then ye
(Secret tech: Ava, Roar, shadowmeld, spin, OF)
unreal onyx
do I play 2p2p then?
also that wowhead guide tierset doesn't really make sense
I can't wear 2 shoulders
fleet parrot
But you have 2 shoulders, 1 above each arm. Dont understand the problem…
next canopy
Ava, Roar, spin, OF - pray you are not dead
Where would reck go in this?
fleet parrot
Jokes aside you want shoulders/hands for the low ilvl pieces
Due to stat budgets being lower
You can use whatever you have left to get 2p
unreal onyx
I got em all still
pearl sequoia
Where would reck go in this?
Reck, charge
nocturne dragon
also that wowhead guide tierset doesn't really make sense
I think they meant helmet and chest for the s4 then glove and shoulder for s3
past pivot
do I play 2p2p then?
Play the lowest stat items for s3. Optimally, hands and shoulders. But go with whatever you have if not those pieces.
next canopy
Reck, charge
🫡
dense elbow
Where would reck go in this?
just throw it with and before avatar
next canopy
just throw it with and before avatar
Beauty
graceful ruin
feels like frenzied enrage does more dmg than powerful in aoe
would be nice, but i wonder why since i heard that isn't the case
dense elbow
So OF is 260k ish dam, per 45 sec. OS is 210k ish dam per 10sec
grim topaz
Why is the glove tier of the Amidrassil Token vendor fixed at level 441?
dense elbow
you could only upgrade gear during the season
So if you didnt get 489 back them, ya cant now - basically
nocturne dragon
quartz hare
I was doing some test on the target dummies.
My fury warrior damage was over a million.
Other than stats. Did we actually get a good buff?
upbeat sentinel
you could only upgrade gear during the season
You also just can't get S3 to drop at all anymore
Since all raids are awakened
dense elbow
punish the unbelievers!
junior shore
on the bright side m+ portals are account bound now 🙂
upbeat sentinel
Speed restriction for dragonriding is lifted in old zones now
feral ivy
havent played fury in awhile. im looking at rotation from wowhead and outside the cd area it just says nothing about the stacking dmg buff "slaughtering strikes" and "bloodcraze" should i get 5 stacks each before pressing rampage and bloodthrist?
crisp prism
i rather do less damage then play s3 tier again lol
dense elbow
havent played fury in awhile. im looking at rotation from wowhead and outside th...
if you are not minmaxing PvP burst, dont worry about any of that. Just do the core rotation as described
feral ivy
ok cool tyty
dense elbow
i rather do less damage then play s3 tier again lol
why tho? Storm of Swords is gone
crisp prism
why tho? Storm of Swords is gone
tbh this is just another topic of am/ ra
i dont really like ra after df rework
feral ivy
one last question nothing about BS am i using it in reck and avtar window?
it sounds obvious but... just making sure
crisp prism
S3 (2) doesnt require RA
comment was kinda aimed at considering 4p
dense elbow
Fair enuff, I will do 4p for more OFs - but remember, you can now CB instead of BB outside the tier procs
AM CDR is a thing, but ye - I hate desyncing stuff
pearl sequoia
one last question nothing about BS am i using it in reck and avtar window?
BS will line up with avatar so yea pretty much
ornate gust
I have a question, so BB/BT > CB/RB now?
crisp prism
tbh in a perfect world bake am into spec instead of talent maybe weaker version
and talent to make it stronger idk
playing m+ in s3 felt really bad without cd cheats
unreal onyx
since we have to always take shockwave for ST, do we actually use it?
onyx linden
dense elbow
since we have to always take shockwave for ST, do we actually use it?
nop, they removed what little rage gain was on it
chilly fractal
ima say it
I don’t care that your broke your elbow
dense elbow
you can use Shockwave if you are forced oor - for some free ranged dam :P
crisp prism
this is the best iteration of fury since legion
agree , war within fury plays really well
wait till you get the hero talents on top
flat river
weird
plater used to show nameplates as blue
and red if i had aggro
but now
it's multiple colors
white green
yellow
red and blue
fading sky
Red
flat river
like wtf
fading sky
Ye🤣, had some aggro issues ngl😅
pearl sequoia
Yea same plater little confused right now
gusty cloak
with new talents are we subbing slam for raging blow now?
elder granite
is there an update for elvui out yet?
dense elbow
Slam is pure: "nothing else to press" button on ST
pearl sequoia
is there an update for elvui out yet?
Yea it works
nocturne dragon
with new talents are we subbing slam for raging blow now?
why would you want to replace raging blow with weakass slam?
elder granite
Yea it works
bet thanks
nocturne dragon
S3 fury doesn't use raging blow because of the annihilator build but anni is gone now, so we use Raging as always.
past shell
so ive been a warr for some time and bladestorm is new to me. Am i supposed to use it as if its ravager? Early in my rotation to build rage or??? Please help lol
past shell
thank you lol.
flat river
funny
i joined a raid
and 2 dks and a ret
and fighting me in chat
saying fury needs nerf
as if they weren't OP this entire expansion 
restive peak
as if prepatch balance means literally fuckin anything LOL
rigid stirrup
^
Fr let us rock
People see brown class having fun and then all the other strength specs are crying about it
flat river
real
rigid stirrup
Also I wouldn't actually argue with anyone in this game
They lost me after they started typing
half cargo
Someone should tell them pumping in fated and prepatch is a curse anyways
rigid stirrup
Was the OF nerf the one we had in beta already or did they tune it down again with pre patch?
restive peak
Tuned down again
Which was probably necessary, hopefully means we'll get some ST in its place
rigid stirrup
Prayge
knotty sonnet
anyone got talents?
flat river
People see brown class having fun and then all the other strength specs are cryi...
they don't have E X E C U T E button thats why they salty
eternal sundial
delete juggernaut
flat river
i don't know how to read
ornate gust
Yes you want to use CB>BB
I thought BB > CB
haughty owl
Yeah, fury is busted right now. Enjoy it while it lasts boys
They might not change it during prepatch though, no point
dense elbow
||Please dont judge hunters and warlocks from what seen there ||
unreal onyx
HUGE lock
dense elbow
500k pure ST?
warped bone
Second boss so not pure ST. But those spears vanish instant
restive peak
I mean this entire patch is going to be a fuckin shitshow, noone should even care
ornate gust
Ramp CB BB Ramp CB BB
Thanks 😊
restive peak
Gutted is still a bit dramatic my friendo 😛
It needed a nerf, maybe the beta patch today comes w some ST buffs
I think a lot of people think the OF nerf is due to S3 set, when in reality OF is just busted and needed a nerf anyway
dense elbow
Gutted is still a bit dramatic my friendo 😛
If you dont see that % as a gut, shame on you
Only skins and bones left
restive peak
Hahaha
tulip swallow
calm ermine
Any numbers yet? My fury is pulling ahead of arms even with OF nerf
haughty owl
Was only messing around on dummies last night due to addon issues, but fury was absolutely slapping in aoe
gloomy loom
Was only messing around on dummies last night due to addon issues, but fury was ...
What about pvp vs arms? Hope fury will be better than arms once
dense elbow
Better ask in #pvp, my guess - nothing really changed
Fury still ok, but arms got the edge thanks to tools
haughty owl
What about pvp vs arms? Hope fury will be better than arms once
Don't really pvp so couldn't tell you
gloomy loom
Fury still ok, but arms got the edge thanks to tools
Sad..
dense elbow
Get me hired for Blizzard CEO, I can guarantee OF will not be nerfed again; and arms will be better in PvP 
rigid stirrup
the only thing people should be upset about is blizz shrinking the giant trading post sword
waxen fjord
any warriors M+ streamers live rn?? tryna cure boredom at work
clever shore
Is there a macro to cast odyn's fury and thunderour roar at the same time?
dense elbow
plush ice
so is anyone elses sims wonky
i linked some stuff in the arms channel
but i'm getting some results for my fury sims that made me raise an eyebrow, but i didn't think much of it, but then i saw some stuff in arms that looked actually wrong, which is now making me question the bot for fury as well hehe
lean wasp
Do i still go augury and oce on fury?
nocturne dragon
I thought Aug + brand for raid and Aug + Puzzle for m+?
but Aug OCE not that bad too
plush ice
also, just doing some sanity testing on a target dummy i'm overperofrming the sims by 50ish k
lean wasp
I hate that thing
Imagine being high apm melee class and having to cast puzzle box and legendary it feels so bad
lean wasp
Btw do we go 2p 2p no questions asked ?
lean wasp
I mean seasons over for M+
I still want to pump and trash talk my team
rigid stirrup
yeah and you can do all that without the puzzle box
plush raven
i need to get the new rotation right. Another fury outperformed me in single
So many things to keep track off
rigid stirrup
I feel like its just getting into the habit of not wasting your enhanced BT damage on BT but trying to prio using it on BB instead
unreal onyx
am I misremembering or did they increase the uproar CDR by 15s?
dense elbow
yep
unreal onyx
uproar reduces by 45s
flat river
OMFG I REMEMBER WHAT HAPPENED TO MY TIER SET
dense elbow
yep
elder granite
youll have OF up with Roar
somber elk
what build do we play in keys now?
unreal onyx
wasn't uproar cdr 30s before?
dense elbow
what build do we play in keys now?
if it isnt in pins here, just go to #1230018936427515924 and steal it from there
eternal sundial
yes
dense elbow
Have you fixed your brainbug yet, Lolxd?
sage smelt
s4 is done right? no more IO to be gained?
sage smelt
thanks, thats what i thought
unreal onyx
Have you fixed your brainbug yet, Lolxd?
no
I am propably misremembering
but with uproar we had 1min roar
now we have 45s roar?
dense elbow
yep
hidden sentinel
Anybody else a little confused as to why none of the Fury builds include Thunder Clap? It seems to be a pretty key ability if you plan on going Mountain Thane, but they don't want you to have it. Maybe it will change when TWW actually drops and we have access to Hero Talents.
dense elbow
It is Thane only, that is why
unreal onyx
but what to I take out if I copy the wowhead raid aoe build if I want both roar capstones
dense elbow
Armored