fury

[hardy cargo]

And does that cause mad overcap issues

[sullen dove]

dont think u get into many situations where u can double rampage

i mean maybe it still happens sometimes

but if u go bladestorm a bit less likely

and either way just make macro again

[summer quail]

powerful enrage

[young swan]

if ur still ravager enjoyer its pretty easy to double ramp I think

or at least ramp -> x -> ramp

which kinda sucks cause ur gonna be wasting one of: bb or cb

[hardy cargo]

You’d totally still just press the other one over the ramp right

[summer quail]

is it not just worth using both RA charges? atleast as long as it doesn't overcap you i don't see why it wouldn't be

[young swan]

I think with unhinged ravager you can actually just slam CB -> ramp

and let the ravager cast the BB's for u

fury gonna be very powerful

[hardy cargo]

I was saying this to Dan like last week, that seems really fun

Causing ravager to be a lil burst window that changes your rotation

Is dope af

[young swan]

unhinged is easily the best thing added during the beta cycle

[sullen dove]

didnt realize till a bit ago its cleaving the bts if u have ww stacks up

in the bs

now that is pog asf

[summer quail]

yee, and fury unhinged gets better in execute. feels so good man

[young swan]

only been asking for it for all of df..

[young swan]

yeah its fucking gnarly damage

BS is your highest damage button in m+ by an actual landslide if you count the cleaved BT's

[hardy cargo]

BS so good button

Very happy the removal of hurricane

[ember apex]

hurricane is the druid AOE thing?

[sullen dove]

what is blud talkin about

[summer quail]

i hope he's memeing

[ember apex]

oh yeah urs is different

ok nvm

[young swan]

that shit got removed in cata

why the fuck would i be talking about hurricane

[sullen dove]

have you like.. played this class at all the past idk... expansion

[ember apex]

sorry i dont play cata or classic

yeah i have sorry got confused

[summer quail]

???

[sullen dove]

[hardy cargo]

[ember apex]

i logged in last night to make sure my char was ready for pre-patch on tues

[young swan]

im unironically more excited for prepatch than i was for s4

prepatch so hype omg

[hardy cargo]

Fated/Awakened is such a cop out bullshit concept to me

I guess I understand SL fated

[summer quail]

tbf nothing happened in s4, incredibly boring. no new dungeons or anything

[young swan]

if they did anything interesting (older raids) i wouldnt mind it

[sullen dove]

the gearing part of s4 is like the best

[hardy cargo]

But this s4 was complete shit

[young swan]

but yeah I think s4 was a cop out

[sullen dove]

just picking trinkets and shit and actually standing on equal(ish) grounds with other ppl

[ember apex]

mop remix was good but it was a heavy daily grind and then u didnt need to do anything

[hardy cargo]

I still need to do remix

[ember apex]

i havent played wow in like 2 months except yesterday just to make sure the game worked

[young swan]

i still need to do mythic siege

who wants to carry me

[ember apex]

if u guys are max ilvl u just get insta inv

[hardy cargo]

Yeah I’m not max ilvl

[young swan]

ive been unsubbed for like 1.5 months

[ember apex]

u can basically upgrade ur entire gear set 1 time, once per day

w/ the bronze from doing every raid on heroic and the daily quests

[hardy cargo]

4 raids and a dungeon and a scenario too much for me

Every day at least

I do cataclysm dailies for 300g and MAYBE do remix dailies

[ember apex]

it was a lot of work yeah but it's basically not optional if u need the mog from it

the tol barad shit? i used to do that for the illusory wolf

[hardy cargo]

Ya it’s 300g everyday and on classic cata that’s not a bad amount for 5 mins of work

[ember apex]

yeah those quests were fast AF just spread out

i did them during shadowlands

lotta downtime in that xpac

[hardy cargo]

Did u do all 18 or just the 6

I only do the 6

[ember apex]

i only did tol barad stuff for the mount

i farmed cata rep w/ those tabards

[hardy cargo]

Yes

There are 18 tol borad dailies in total

[ember apex]

the mount requierd tokens or something i dont remember it was like 1-3 years ago

[hardy cargo]

In two different locations split into 6/12

[ember apex]

COMMENDATIONS

umm i did the horde ones right by the origrammar portal

[young swan]

@sudden tusk hey man whens my mythic garry carry

[sullen dove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/925837396342362182/1263677244438614127/output-onlinegiftools.gif

[young swan]

i followed u on twitter please respond

[ember apex]

no way

[hardy cargo]

Groms Twitter is the best

[sullen dove]

incelnak arc goes hard

[sudden tusk]

Like remix?

[ember apex]

i just found groms twitter last night

[young swan]

yar

need the title...

[sudden tusk]

Can do tonight idc

[young swan]

chomptaga will be ascending

[sudden tusk]

Pog

Are we just running non BS RA after prepatch

With the normal shit. Feels like it's probably just that

[fickle bluff]

OF ravager unhinged RA

we have enough haste maybe AM is good somewhere

[bleak trench]

does fury always use reck with avatar?

[modest condor]

no

you use both of them on cooldown as much as possible, which with AM doesn't necessarily line up

if they're a couple of seconds off you can delay, but if reck comes off like 10 seconds before avatar you're not just gonna sit on that cdr for 10 seconds

[bleak trench]

thanks! so we don't delay reck for avatar, but if they are both up, do we always try to use them at the same time or do we stagger them because of berserker's torment

[modest condor]

at the same time

[bleak trench]

ty

[sudden tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/be-doo-be-doo-minion-despicable-me-alert-warning-gif-17785531

[unreal onyx]

what does rio know that I don't?

holdup

why can I still get my S3 recap on the website

lmao

[edgy widget]

Yeah man, when is my mythic garry carry?

[sudden tusk]

log on

[edgy widget]

oh snap, Xan gets told to come back later and I get the VIP treatment

[sudden tusk]

i just got home

;-;

idk where xans at so might be a bit

@young swan paging mr taga to the Siege waiting room

its chompy time

[young swan]

omg

im on

i was yapping in a jjk discord

[sudden tusk]

@edgy widget do you want in too

[fickle bluff]

💀

[edgy widget]

I'M ONLINE

WAITING ON XAN

[sudden tusk]

XAN

[young swan]

[sudden tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/looney-tunes-door-daffy-knock-doorbell-gif-13885953

[young swan]

inve

[edgy widget]

too busy yapping

[young swan]

inv

[edgy widget]

eeeeh idk if I want you on my friends list

[sudden tusk]

gross

[edgy widget]

that's... kind of a lot

[sudden tusk]

what server you be

[edgy widget]

with a w at the end of my name

[edgy widget]

sitting here afk is actually the most retail I've played in a month lmao

[gilded pawn]

Been playing cata?

[edgy widget]

nope!

[sinful spoke]

Did blissard say if we’re able to get aotc mounts during prepatch?

I wanna help a few friends get it

[fair star]

Probably

Cuz theyre all going awakened

[fair star]

Since the mount isnt actually from aotc

Its from doing all 3 raids on awakened nornal

[sinful spoke]

I mean fyrakk

[fair star]

That i do not know

[fickle bluff]

blizzard havent explicitly said

[bitter palm]

idk i got nyalotha mount in sl prepatch

didnt get curve but got the mount

[willow cradle]

Eww

[bitter palm]

horse

[clever path]

https://tenor.com/view/smile-horse-smile-hello-gif-1643798020800524632

[sudden tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-meme-gif-23342140

[sudden tusk]

@young swan you fucked with prepatch builds at all

starting to look at it and feels weird without hero talents

[young swan]

not much yet

[sudden tusk]

yeah RA seems decent, not sure where bladestorm fits even with the buffs

maybe some like big council fight with AM, but doubt its much use in pre

[young swan]

u just run ravager pretty sure

[summer quail]

can't see it being played in raid at all

[sudden tusk]

maybe some shit like this

[summer quail]

odyns buff is coming with prepatch right?

[young swan]

ye

[summer quail]

then no swift strikes

[sudden tusk]

critial strikes. skip tenderize, 1 point in OF maybe?

[summer quail]

think this could be the play

[sudden tusk]

then go roar and twords skip torment

hmm

[summer quail]

meant to have RA, not AM

there we go

[sudden tusk]

kinda what we are running in beta just without BS since no slayer

but if we are running Odys then we def run roar

and titains

[summer quail]

yee, assuming wrath and fury is fixed

[sudden tusk]

wonder if the 40% will be enough without HnS

depending on the haste value we have after the patch maybe powerful enrage as well

[summer quail]

probably more likely than not ngl, tho i hope not

powerful enrage does not feel nearly as good

[covert blaze]

[gusty fern]

oy wheres ma man Pilav

[grave kiln]

Dead most likely

[eternal sundial]

I last saw him in aberrus he was vibin

[sullen basin]

you forgot smf

[bitter palm]

pilav in goats

[hardy cargo]

Am I tripping or is this tree missing a point from the bottom

or wait 2 points

starting at stats, 10 are supposed to be at the bottom, right?

[pseudo marlin]

Ass

No love for warriorman

[dense elbow]

He has opted to go for other performance nodes. You are not going crazy

[pseudo marlin]

Glad mount / horde saddle is banger in PvP though

But warrior mog like always is ass

[dense elbow]

#transmog

[pseudo marlin]

Posted

[dense elbow]

reacted

[pseudo marlin]

Thank you

[bitter palm]

damn execute hits hard

probably because of powerful enrag

wrong channel

meant to post this in tww

[fickle bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-mod-meme-megamind-wrong-channel-wrong-discord-channel-gif-17732882292443345366

[radiant plank]

kekpoint

[pseudo marlin]

#promotion

For showing off big executes

[sullen dove]

cope is strong with this one

[pseudo marlin]

Wym cope

I said its ass

And it is

[sullen dove]

[somber elk]

Guys hows fury in m+ looking in tww?

[modest condor]

really good in weekly +10s

kinda hard to say what it will be like in push keys since we havent really seen people do those on beta

[wanton mirage]

We still target limited or we become much better in >5 situations in TWW? Not playing beta yet.

[modest condor]

our normal aoe is still hard capped to 5

but more of our damage comes from cooldowns compared to normal rotation

also #1230008383856316437

[ocean pumice]

Does fury scale with an offhand weapon or only with a mainhand?

[modest condor]

both

[faint plover]

Will Fury be Mastery/Verse in prepatch? Ive been playing Arms all season but think Ill play Fury for prepatch. Am thinking of remaking my crafted

[willow cradle]

Mastery Haste seems to be the go to still but as always just sim to be sure

[fickle bluff]

what

hero talents unlock at 71

is it your first expansion

[modest condor]

[dense elbow]

[summer quail]

well 10 points can be at the bottom, i chose not to

[red berry]

there’s a few things to do during the prepatch. Mainly? It’s catchup time

the changes to the tree itself

they’re up

so even if you can’t play hero you can still test the changes

[dense elbow]

But without TR, your burst opener is not as satisfying

Ngl, I dont even remember the tree shown
... yarp it is ST

[summer quail]

it's st xD

[fickle bluff]

the globals you need to set up in aoe are well needed

[dense elbow]

Aint nobody got time for that, mobs gotta die

Monks really struggle keeping threat tho

BDK, Warriors and Druids seem able to handle the snap a lot better.
Paladin, monk and VDH, no-me gusta

[turbid needle]

https://tenor.com/view/get-real-gif-24964437

[dark frost]

Oh so prepatch is just talent changes? No hero talents??

[modest condor]

i mean you get your first hero talent at lvl 71

im surprised how many people are surprised that you dont have access to hero talents yet in prepatch

[unreal onyx]

[fickle bluff]

wdym i got my artifact as soon as 7.0 dropped, my hoa and armour right there with 8.0

[dark frost]

I havent spent too much time on the beta

[clear dew]

can someone link this WA?

[unreal onyx]

what wa?

there's like 4 icons, 2 bars and a dmg indicator

[candid falcon]

the leftmost one looks like the s4 tier set tracker you can find in the pins

[willow cradle]

looks like s3 actually cause Slam is on that WA too

[flat river]

3 MORE DAYS GUYS

[willow cradle]

Yeye

[brittle phoenix]

It's from Critcake you can find a link to it in the description of his videos

[sullen basin]

til we lose hurricane and instantly do 5000% less damage

[flat river]

xd

fym

we get unhinged

[flat river]

Me when

[sullen basin]

its so dumb that battle shout has a 15s cooldown while arcane intellect does not

[pearl sequoia]

Will probably lvl as Fury for war within but haven't tried it yet, is Rampage just the fury mortal strike equivalent and you use other abilities to proc it?

[eternal sundial]

Shout doesnt cost mana

[eternal sundial]

It furys only spender

And you can use it to aoe with improved whirlwind

[pearl sequoia]

Cool ty

[sullen basin]

doesnt take 15 seconds to recover our throat because we can immediately rally or any other shout after so whats the point in the cd

[iron portal]

What is fury

[eternal sundial]

Idk it doesnt matter man

Press on pull 10 and end

[sullen basin]

I habitually spam it due to shadowlands venthyr free shield for helpful spells

[clear dew]

right thats where i got it from. Much appreciate it!

[hardy cargo]

good riddance

[modest condor]

[compact yarrow]

😄

[clever path]

[nocturne dragon]

I don't think Those ppl read about the whole hero talent from the beginning, I mean even if they don't announce it in prepatch, blizz already said from the beginning that 1 level = 1 point for hero talent.

So in order for hero talent to smoothly work it has to be lvl 80 and surely lvl 80 is coming with expansion not prepatch.

[unreal onyx]

hope the hero talents don't add too many more buttons

I like my class simple

[nocturne dragon]

mostly it's passive but some hero talent might get 1 more button
Let's say I play prot, the Mountain Thane doesn't really add button, however with Colossus there is 1 button Demolish, which entire hero talent built on it.

[unreal onyx]

1 more is ez

but I ain't looking for 4 more

[nocturne dragon]

at least so far I see it's either 0 or 1, I never saw 2.

but then again I only look hero talents for Warrior, Resto Druid, MM Hunter and Frost DK.

[modest condor]

mountian thane technically does add a button

because thunderclap does replace whirlwind, but you still have slam on singletarget

[unreal onyx]

so we use tc and slam in ST then?

or only slam and tc for aoe

[dense elbow]

Tww added one button by default, so 1 to 3 buttons, TWW button bloat

[modest condor]

i mean even if thunderclap itself wasnt used on st (which im pretty sure it is) you would still use the button for thunderblast

you use both tc and slam on st

[nocturne dragon]

I don't think hero talent innately add button except there is some hero talent which focus around the active like colossus demolish.

[modest condor]

slam replaces whirlwind as the "nothing else to press" button on singletarget in tww

assuming you're not talented into imp ww/meat cleaver

[nocturne dragon]

the button add maybe like silm said is just there from beginning, not with hero talent added

[modest condor]

the added button is because of the hero talent

it's thunderclap

slayer doesnt have an added button

hell, even on aoe you could theoretically run out of buttons to press and then have to press natty whirlwind instead of thunderclap

[clever path]

Is fury now 4 button spec?

[eternal sundial]

S4 or ww1

[storm rapids]

hi guys, question about weapons atm, I'm kinda too late to get the leg weapon so what can I try to get with ashkandur ?

[nocturne dragon]

I mean it's not about too late on getting it, it's more like if you are lucky to get the drop.

[eternal sundial]

Yes buy it with bullion

[storm rapids]

is the leg still lootable after the prepatch ?

[nocturne dragon]

I think so.

[storm rapids]

ok

[nocturne dragon]

But if you get it like 1 week before the expansion coming then... don't bother to craft it unless you really like the model for transmog.

[fiery flame]

is anyone here good with macros? i need some help

[covert blaze]

just ask and someone might know the answer

[fiery flame]

is it possible to make a bladestorm + ravager macro? Even tho fury doens't have access to it yet... I was able to create a odyn's fury/onslaught one

but my BS/RAV one is not working

[warm crag]

ye should just be a talent known checker somewhere

hold on i need to look at beta talent trees for a sec

ye they're just mutually exclusive you just make a macro with the correct talent codes somewhat like this #1230008411333066913 message

wait why do you have a ravager onslaught one anyways you always play ravager no

or is this some weird beta stuff

[fiery flame]

correction : odyn's fury

[fiery flame]

tyvm

[fiery flame]

ty

[rain sail]

What are the 'spinning plates' of Fury (i.e. BDK equiv would be icy veins, coagulopathy, bone shields). any buffs you are keeping up the majority of the time

[modest condor]

not sure what spinning plate means but i guess you have pretty much 100% uptime on enrage?

[nimble hearth]

world war 1 Aware

[dense elbow]

Spinning plates, means having multiple things all going on at the same time. If one plate stops, it falls and brings down the rest. So you must give attention to them all.

Fury doesn't really have any of those elements
Enrage maintains itself, rest is used when it shines (basically). CDs line up. Fury living the good life

[sullen dove]

Wym that like perfectly describes reck uptime minigame

Don’t get lucky with uf procs cast less rampages less chance of getting procs less reck less cdr less avatar/ravager = rip bozo

cringe spec

[dense elbow]

[clever path]

Buff slam

[unique locust]

@edgy widget @mossy fox what about fury builds for pre-patch? do we have anything? With talents change and without hero talents.

[gilded pawn]

@ everyone relevant

[willow cradle]

Archim said he'd pin a light guide for prepatch but nothing big

[modest condor]

cant believe it's only 2 days until prepatch

[covert blaze]

i'm very excited to play red class

jokes aside I feel like warrior needs hero talents to feel complete

[edgy widget]

As Tinger said, there'll be "light" guides in the normal places; sims will also work, but neither will be heavily optimized since more focus and attention is going into L80 stuff - mostly just making all the sims work with old tier, new talents, etc

Fury is pretty easy, RA, OF, and Bladestorm carry hard, but Arms builds are super scuffed atm

[covert blaze]

if looking at performance/numbers only, how is fury vs arms looking for prepatch?

[edgy widget]

Depends on what they do with tier, Fury is ahead for now, but it's closer than I originally thought

[covert blaze]

based

[edgy widget]

I know there are some tier changes coming, I just don't yet know whether it'll affect us or not

[covert blaze]

[summer quail]

4p buffed to 12% 🙂 ngl thought this was tww chat

[edgy widget]

S4 tier is weird, you can "kinda" play it the way we're used to thanks to the new Bloodcraze

but it's not super clean

2p S3 + 2p S4 works pretty seamlessly, especially for AoE
4p S3 is really strong burst AoE, but drops a lot of item level that starts to hold you back elsewhere
4p S4 is just... there

[silk wharf]

Seems like a strong case for disabling tier sets

[dense elbow]

Nah, S3 (2) makes it worth to keep around, all by itself

[sinful spoke]

Mi hermanos los guerreros

[covert blaze]

"Mis" cause it's plural

[sinful spoke]

I just type too fast on phone and make mistakes 🫰

[floral sequoia]

Wish they'd disable old tier sets, makes getting gear more impactful going into the next tier

[willow cradle]

Eh I'd rather not be nerfed when starting prog week 1

[clever path]

Are TWW tier sets released on PTR?

[limpid burrow]

I have 6 bullions to spare. What trinkets could sweeten my levelling experience in TWW?

[dark frost]

Augury and probably torch

[limpid burrow]

grieftorch?

[unreal onyx]

Or beacon bc funny

I would assume you get rid of trinkets relatively fast with higher ilvl questing ones anyway

[dark frost]

Yeah

Just an on cd kill button that doesnt need setup

[limpid burrow]

on beta I haven't gotten rid of these trinkets at level 76

pvp and random world trinket

I assume they buff mob health before release because when i first started out there my leggo proc was one-shotting quest mobs

and the leggo on-use would just wipe out any group

[unreal onyx]

Just have leggo be bis offhand in tww still

[eternal sundial]

Rava and roar should be higher but low key so ye

[summer quail]

Not to shatter your bubble or anything but rotation will change tomorrow/wednesday

[craggy river]

someting like this

without hero talents

[potent thicket]

looking forward to it

[fading sky]

M+?

[summer quail]

clearly, but i do not think this build is good

[unreal onyx]

So tww fury fuck good? That’s all I need to hear

Surely we can give an accurate answer already

[silver pecan]

Are beta talents going on live tomorrow?

[fading sky]

Yes

[unreal onyx]

Hecc yes

[gloomy loom]

Fury war is going to be good? Really? Time to play again

[unreal onyx]

Idk, I was asking

[gloomy loom]

Oh 🥺🥺🥺🥺

[summer quail]

ye fury good tww

[gloomy loom]

I hope fury is the way to go this time in pvp

[summer quail]

no clue about pvp mate

[sinful spoke]

None

Delete tthem

get cosmetics

Wait till tww

= profit

[unreal onyx]

🤨

why

[warped bone]

To be a real edge lord? shrugs

[sullen basin]

isnt it already

ive had no difficulty roflstomping people with 800k health as a fury warrior with double that and 38% vers in unrated bgs

[hardy cargo]

Tmog is the real end game

[mint pond]

so i started fury today(played arms and prot a fair bit already) and i read on a guide that bloodthirst should be kept on cd for the chance to enrage, but im already generating rage fast enough to keep spamming rampage and keep myself enraged through using raging blows and occasionally onslaught

[eternal sundial]

re-read the guide with tierset enabled

bt is only used at 95% crit rate or to prevent downtime rn

[feral ivy]

I have a question on Tuesday are we going to be losing dps since we will not have the hero talents or should be the same?

[eternal sundial]

depends on what they do with tier

[feral ivy]

Oh crap I didn’t know they were doing anything with tier.

[eternal sundial]

me neither

[feral ivy]

Why would they do anything to tier tho?

[eternal sundial]

why wouldnt they turn it off

🤷‍♂️

[feral ivy]

I never played last seasons of expansions so never knew they did that. There no reason to turn it off imo

[small hemlock]

Talent changes tomorrow?

[feral ivy]

I can see they turn off tier if the new talents collides with current tier for certain classes and wouldn’t work

[small hemlock]

Are there talent changes? I haven paid attention to the nitty gritty

[eternal sundial]

entire tree reworked ye

[feral ivy]

Some specs yea few buttons here and there but not a BIG things like brand new tree

[eternal sundial]

everyone gets their wawi trees alr

iirc

[feral ivy]

I have no idea what you said lol

[warm crag]

every class shall be receiving their reworked talent trees from the "War Within" expansion for hit mmorpg game "World of Warcraft" that we are currently engaged in a discussion about

[feral ivy]

lol is that what he said ?

[eternal sundial]

yes

[feral ivy]

Ah someone I know said that their tier revolves around a talent that’s being removed

[small hemlock]

The discussion that we are partaking in has delivered information of varying values. The general consensus is that talents will change and there may or may not be important talents that change.

[eternal sundial]

there is 2 pieces of info

1. new tree comes
2. tier might be disabled - we'll see

[median marsh]

this is a classic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lmsMSQDVPM

[limpid burrow]

No cosmetics I want left. Might as well swap my crap pvp trinkets with something that'll ease levelling, even if by only 1%.

But let's be real. Swapping pvp trinkets would provide more than 1% comfort

[hardy cargo]

Augury + passive stat trinkie is what I would go with in that case

[limpid burrow]

cheers

[clever path]

Wow tokens should cost this much imo

[hardy cargo]

Real

[ember apex]

wow tokens shouldn't be in the game

neither should p2w mounts and transmog and battle pets

[hardy cargo]

I can sorta see tokens being p2w but mounts and tmog nah they’re fine

You aren’t forced to buy the cosmetic things that don’t affect player power so

🤷‍♂️

[ember apex]

if u only do raid for cosmetics so u look the best, transmog and mounts on the store are aboslutely p2w

many people get 2100 in pvp for that reason alone

[hardy cargo]

If it doesn’t increase player power it’s not p2w

Tmog and mounts don’t increase your power

[ember apex]

if u have cosmetics that i dont have access to and im playing the game hard as fuck and i can never get them unless i spend money its p2w

ur literally styling on me idk how to say it any more clearly

if im getting styled on by someone else who spent money and BECAUSE they spent money, they're winning and im losing

[eternal sundial]

Have gold convert tokens

You can easily get all the mog by being good at the game

[ember apex]

i usually make ~ 1/2 a gold cap when the expac launches

i could make more but i see that contributing into the p2w system b/c someone who spent $ is getting my gold which i earned from gameplay

[eternal sundial]

And u are telling me u cant buy the mog

Lol

[eternal sundial]

Blizz buys the token out if it's not sold within 24h

[ember apex]

it would require selling my gold for token money

[eternal sundial]

Ur Gold or theirs it doesnt matter

[clever path]

https://tenor.com/view/touching-grass-touch-gif-21219969

I wonder how much I could make selling grass to wow players

[ember apex]

im reading this message while outside

[clever path]

Transmog sucks, I like looking like a patchwork fresh outta stormwind pumping the meters

[eternal sundial]

https://media2.giphy.com/media/XgPYtyEGx3T2Z6dG45/giphy.mp4?cid=73b8f7b16kfqijjfzlcab6qikg4vx9zx7c8aisfoyxe154h8&ep=v1_gifs_gifId&rid=giphy.mp4&ct=g

[devout holly]

probably doesn't matter much but does anyone know what the best race for Fury is atm?

[clever path]

Dwarf

[hardy cargo]

When tww drops it will possibly change but rn dwarf, human, and Tauren are all pretty similar in terms of dps

If u want util for keys as well, dwarf

[clever path]

1-2% difference honestly, just pick what one looks cool

[hardy cargo]

^

That also includes ALL races

[ember apex]

orc for aesethics

[hardy cargo]

Not just the few mentioned

[ember apex]

that's my philosophy and i get told to touch grass, crazy world we're living in

[clever path]

If you do keys, then best is nelf or dwarf

Just cause racial is big in high content

[devout holly]

I want to, but my min-max brain is screaming at me haha

[clever path]

I was making a joke regarding the fact you get mad when other people have better tmogs

[hardy cargo]

It’s prolly gonna change when tww drops so personally I’d wait until the sims are out for race to swap

[ember apex]

i dont get mad, i just realize that they p2w their mog

[clever path]

Human for DPS fury, dwarf for prot and arms

[ember apex]

the biggest example is the celestial cloak from that transmog pack

[clever path]

That is BIS min max but again 1-2% difference which is just human error

[devout holly]

fair, fair. might as well level up one of each I suppose. got some time to spend till TWW anyways

cheers guys

[clever path]

Dwarf safe bet, always nice to cleanse yourself

[clever path]

Cosmetics do not boost your dmg just shows you swipe your card for pixels which says to me PAY 2 LOSE

"I cannot afford rent cause I bought a murloc tmog and a 6 month wow sub" - From someone I knew

Okay seriously £17 for tmogs?????? what the hell

That's a weeks worth of shopping

[restive peak]

People are so weird with their hatred for people spending like $20 on a mount; I have clients that like knit for fun and spend $100-150 a week, $25-50 every few months on your main hobby is super miniscule lol

WoW is so baller cuz it's such a cheap, all consuming hobby xD

[ember apex]

i would much rather they raise the sub price than include MTX

[devout holly]

But they end up with a baller hat or sweater. We end up with pixels 😦

[ember apex]

i'd be happier paying $20 or 25 or $30 USD vs having token + MTX and i dont buy either

[restive peak]

Let's be real, 90% of people knit end up with balls of weirdness 😛

I would be pissed if I had to pay more for my sub so they could remove tokens

If someone wants to buy gold and buy carries, more power to em

[ember apex]

im for sure in the minority in this

and ur opinion def more popular, but like i have no problem spending $150 or something ONE TIME for a game like elden ring vs being nickel and dimed for MTX

[restive peak]

This game is so cheap either way when compared to any other thing, it's w/e

[ember apex]

i dont mind subscriptions but any other type of purchase in a video game doesn't sit right w/ me personally. like i dont like / play any F2P games except PoE which arguably isnt F2P and cost ~$40 - $60.

[restive peak]

Like even a $90 expac every 18 months is fuckin insanely cheap for the amount of hours we all spend

No other purchase ingame affects the gameplay

[ember apex]

im fine w/ the price i dont like that there's versions and some have 'early access' and some dont

[restive peak]

Early access is as much for them as us

[ember apex]

i hate that i had to spend more money to play the game on time w/ my friends

[restive peak]

It lets them make sure the servers won't fuckin implode PLUS make more money

[ember apex]

the problem w/ MTX is i never know how much a game wants from me to have a full experience

like League of Legends is like that, lost ark, etc...

[restive peak]

WoW costs nothing for the full experience. League is bullshit, their entire system is a faux "it's all free and balanced" while actually rotating a meta that enforces having to buy champs to compete

[covert blaze]

How is league of legends like that

[hardy cargo]

You just play league and eventually get them all with blue essence

[ember apex]

"Free to Play" game but there's like $10k+ in unlockables.

[hardy cargo]

I think when I first started playing I spent like 10 or 20 bucks on some champions I really wanted but other than that I’ve gotten every single one for IP/BE

[ember apex]

like if i start a league account right now

how much do i need to spend to unlock everything

i think its like $10k + right

[covert blaze]

There is no player power to buy

[hardy cargo]

You just play the game and unlock all the champions for free lol

[ember apex]

that's what a guildie told me

[ember apex]

we're not talking about power

i said unlockables and i was very deliberate to phrase it that way

[restive peak]

If every season 8 new champs are meta

You'd need those 8 at least

It takes WEEKS to unlock 8 champs

More if they're the 6.3k 1s

[covert blaze]

Buying champions with blue essence is very easy

[restive peak]

So it's "free" but also not really free

[covert blaze]

Nah there's no way

[restive peak]

I mean I play league passively and it takes a lot of games to save up 6.3k blue

[ember apex]

imagine wow is f2p but classes are locked behind whatever system u get blue essence

and then argue its not p2w

[restive peak]

League has created the perfect storm of making you pay without feeling "obligated"

[hardy cargo]

It used to when it was IP compared to blue essence but with BE get it in big chunks that include discounts to random characters

[covert blaze]

Well it's literally not pay to win because there are no champions better than others technically

[restive peak]

But there are

[covert blaze]

Some people get challenger playing Annie only and you can unlock that after the tutorial

[restive peak]

Just like any game, there is a meta

[hardy cargo]

U regularly get champion shards from the level up boxes, which are major discounts to whoever you get it for

[restive peak]

Some of us get title on warr every season too, doesn't mean it's the smartest way

[covert blaze]

It's not the same

[ember apex]

so if im gonna play the game and not spend any money and lets say im an average player, how long would it take me to unlock all those 'non-p2w' chars

like humor me please

i dont play the game but i have an idea of the answer

[covert blaze]

I don't know the exact time frame

[ember apex]

guess

[covert blaze]

You get so much today

[ember apex]

so how many chars in league like 250 right

[covert blaze]

12 years ago it took a long time

Not anymore

[ember apex]

168 characters

[devout holly]

you don't really HAVE to unlock them all though. Just the ones you like/enjoy

[covert blaze]

So I don't think you know what you're talking about, you're saying you don't play the game

[ember apex]

it's a hypothetical

[covert blaze]

When I play on a fresh account I can get most of the champions 8 play really fast

[restive peak]

I mean I can play CSGO with only a deagle too but I'm gonna get giga railed round 4 onward

[ember apex]

yeah so lets say im convinced by ur argument, and i decide to play and not spend any money.

how long is it going to take me APPROXIMATELY to unlock those 168 which are locked behind a paywall

[devout holly]

would probably take a couple months to a year to unlock them all, depending on how much you play

[ember apex]

thank you

[covert blaze]

I don't know and it's irrelevant

[restive peak]

Ok and let's say the season lasts those couple months, and there are 4 nerf/buff cycles

[covert blaze]

Cause you don't need every champion

[restive peak]

And let's say I'm Diamond 2, and into the "meta matters/comp matters" spot...what do I do when I don't have any of the top 8 champs cuz I bought 10 diff 1s the prior season?

I hold my team back, or I spend $5 and have it

League has tricked you into the mindset

[hardy cargo]

You just play what you’re comfortable with

[restive peak]

I get it, fair play to them, it's a genious business

[hardy cargo]

Similar to how u push keys super high on wow

[covert blaze]

That's like saying wow is time consuming cause you need every spec at max ilvl with appropriate gear sets, very dumb argument

[hardy cargo]

On warrior which isn’t meta

[restive peak]

Ofc, I'm not saying you can't

I'm just saying most people can't

And think the meta will get them there

It's a psychology based "need", not an actual need

It's a very smart business for this reason

[ember apex]

the alternative is playing the exact same character, in the exact same game mode, with the exact same role, every single game

[restive peak]

Same reason we see an epic amount of WoW rerolls 6 weeks into every season

[ember apex]

which isnt at all what happens in wow if u play 1 class

or 1 spec even

[restive peak]

But 99% of the rerolled players end up no higher than their "main"

I don't mean you NEED the champions, I mean the very nature of human psychology is that it works as a business to sell

[hardy cargo]

Yeah so it’s fine you just play with the several you like

Because I think with the new system

You get several when you make a new acct

(Don’t quote me I made mine in 2013)

[covert blaze]

The argument was the game being p2w

[hardy cargo]

Then unlock the rest as u get discounts from champion shards out of level up boxes

[covert blaze]

You can get challenger playing 1 champion, most people do

The less champions you play the greater the success you have

[hardy cargo]

He also thinks the shop mounts and tmog are p2w so the argument will always be cyclical in nature haha

[ember apex]

the celestial cloak specifically is a p2w shop item

[restive peak]

Yeah I don't agree tmog/shop mounts are in any way p2w lol

[ember apex]

it has a unique effect i cant get anywhere else and ive gotten CE etc....

u literally have to spend money

[hardy cargo]

That’s not what p2w means

P2w is increasing player power at the cost of money

[covert blaze]

lol

[restive peak]

But it doesn't cause a "win"

Lol

[covert blaze]

Carlo moment

[eternal sundial]

carlo is so lucky you cant call him r word in skyhold

[ember apex]

lets say someone in my guild buys it, and shows up to raid w/ it.

They will be styling on me - in that moment - with a p2w item. They're winning, im losing.

[eternal sundial]

cuz thats what this argument boils down to

[hardy cargo]

LOL

[ember apex]

u can do whatever u want im not offended by that

[upbeat sentinel]

What celestial cloak

Also WoW is p2w

[ember apex]

the one with the whisps

in the store

[upbeat sentinel]

Who cares about that

You can literally buy ingame currency with money

And then I can take that ingame currency and get any title, achievement, or mount I want with it

[ember apex]

that's also a problem, but so is me getting styled on by a p2w guild member

i dont think the wow token should exist and i also think its indefensible

[covert blaze]

If you consider buying boosts p2w then any game is

I bought food today, I p2w irl

[willow cradle]

I kinda agree cause like it's the buyers prerogative but at the same time Wow is a subscription based game where you also pay for expansions. I don't think Blizz should be making sold mounts or T-mog

[upbeat sentinel]

The difference is the transition from real money to ingame currency is done by the devs and not illicitly

Also life is very pay to win

[hardy cargo]

What food

[ember apex]

ty

[covert blaze]

Pizza

[ember apex]

i'm also not personally against an increased sub fee to offset the cost - but i will admit that this is not a majority opinion held by most ppl

like if wow doubled sub cost but removed in-game shop + token i'd be happy

[upbeat sentinel]

No keep my sub low and let idiots spend $500 between shop and tokens

[covert blaze]

Fair point

[upbeat sentinel]

They would instantly kill the game

If they doubled the sub price

[hardy cargo]

We can agree what blizz should be doing but it’s not required for playing optimally then let dumbos buy it imo 🤷‍♂️

[ember apex]

$30 is almost the value of $15 in 2004

its like $24-$26 if i remember correctly

but ur prob right it could kill the game

[covert blaze]

Now you're just rage baiting again Carlo

[upbeat sentinel]

Removing tokens and doubling the subs would kill them twoce

[ember apex]

im just stating my own opinion that idc if they want to make money i personally dont like MTX and p2w shit

[eternal sundial]

tard baiting

[upbeat sentinel]

You run off the whales and also the poors

[ember apex]

i swear on my life this is my actual personal opinion

[hardy cargo]

Pepperoni?

[covert blaze]

phill you gotta relax

[upbeat sentinel]

Phill don’t make me tongue box you

[eternal sundial]

hes genuinely been dropped as a kid what can I say

[ember apex]

i was not dropped as a kid and my parents didnt dps me either

[willow cradle]

Le't be real tho, you dont have to increase sub costs or have shop items for Blizzard to turn a profit, just don't pay the CEO to the level where he can buy his 5th yacht

[covert blaze]

We call it "special" here, it's ham mozzarella and red pepper

[eternal sundial]

btw did you guys seem the hc week stuff

[upbeat sentinel]

They’re simultaneously developing 3 expansions

[eternal sundial]

weird pacing

[eternal sundial]

but the bobby boat

[upbeat sentinel]

The weird pacing is that S4 is still on during early access

You can Zerg to max and style on current M+ for rating achieves

[eternal sundial]

no way right

[covert blaze]

you know I agree bbygirl

[upbeat sentinel]

S4 isn’t retired until full release, not early access

So if you don’t have your portals just no life day one

[ember apex]

early access is 8/22?

[upbeat sentinel]

And then go get them

[upbeat sentinel]

I think so lemme look again

[ember apex]

i remember it was i think the thursday before for USA players

[upbeat sentinel]

Yes 8/22

[covert blaze]

But the season end tomorrow no?

[ember apex]

ok sick

[upbeat sentinel]

No, only 0.1% titles are determined

Also they’re determined today not tomorrow

PvP season closed today and so did 0.1% title qualifications

[covert blaze]

Ah ok

So anything important will be disabled

[eternal sundial]

but muh prepatch m+ score

bro HAHAHAH SODAX MOMENT

+29

[clever path]

Pre patch

No sub till Friday

[covert blaze]

I gotta re-do my UI tomorrow

Can't wait

[clever path]

I haven’t updated my mods since season 1

[eternal sundial]

send progress pics oomfie xx

[clever path]

TWW gonna be lit

[covert blaze]

ok pookie xoxo

[clever path]

Fuck dragons

Hawk tuah

[eternal sundial]

🫏

[hardy cargo]

Can I get these too

[eternal sundial]

ui enjoyers rejoice

bro the other guy in the ui channel someone posted mine and genuinely thought it was an own

[ember apex]

had a woman do this to me irl last week friday, took every fiber of my existence not to lol

[devout holly]

ngl I am lazy and just use atrocity ui 😛

[clever path]

I just use Naomi’s ui

Naan

Naowh

[ember apex]

is taht a fury warrior player

i seen that name before

[clever path]

Ret I think

I don’t watch him I just subbed for Ui

[ember apex]

since blizz nerfed our defensives, should i take that as a clear sign that incoming damage taken is not of a warrior's concern

[clever path]

Wait is fury no longer the tankiest spec?

[covert blaze]

He would have typed the same thing regardless of what your UI looked like

[ember apex]

no we had our stuff nerfed on purpose

[eternal sundial]

yeaa

over me calling a pvp ui disgusting

[clever path]

https://tenor.com/view/unacceptable-knight-father-bread-boys-crusader-gif-18266778

[ember apex]

when i used to pvp i just made a 2nd warrior so he could have a diff UI otherwise i'd have to swap profiles on like 5 addons just to pvp / not pvp

[covert blaze]

bars instead of WAs = gulag

[clever path]

Although remove battle shout and replace with drums 🪘

[ember apex]

battleshout is unique, drums is not unique

i'd rather have the unique thing

[clever path]

I use same UI in pvp I just have different frames that enable when in arena

I also meant rally

Fuck rally give us list

List

Lust

[eternal sundial]

inshallah

[eternal sundial]

rare correct take from carlos

[covert blaze]

hasteful shout
Increases party and raid haste by 30%

[ember apex]

Carlo - singular

[clever path]

HATEEEEEE

[ember apex]

im fine w/ this but i'd want a higher number than 30% then

[covert blaze]

Fucking phone

[clever path]

Yeah fuck apple

Autocorrect is cancer

[covert blaze]

1 Carlo for each braincell

[ember apex]

hateful shout is > hasteful.
It's more thematic to warrior than 'hasteful'

[clever path]

60% haste degrading over 5 seconds to 30% for total of 30 seconds

[ember apex]

rage, fury, hate, bloodthirst

[clever path]

Although gigaover cap

[ember apex]

perfect

if they want to replace battleshout, give us bloodlust but its better than everyone elses

[covert blaze]

Imagine you need to lust at a certain point in the opener for hasted casts lmao

[clever path]

That would make game more min max

He’ll yeah

[covert blaze]

[clever path]

Games too easy, they need make harder

I wanna see all top raid teams spend 4 months on one raid boss with timed haste mechs and random damage patterns with increasing power buffs that when hit tank tank will actually feel it in his balls

And 10 different wipe mechs

Oh what a dream

[unreal onyx]

[hardy cargo]

WA’s instead of bars is demonic

[covert blaze]

[eternal sundial]

i thought we could be friends

[covert blaze]

Golg I like you too much there's still time to delete that message

[eternal sundial]

pretend we were friends before and i removed you

[hardy cargo]

If this is where we must go out separate ways then I must bid u farewell

I will not tolerate this SIN in my presence

[covert blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/ukserver-emoral-iwiillz-dayz-dayzuk-gif-20122954

[hardy cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/wave-waving-cat-sad-gif-22599348

[eternal sundial]

https://media2.giphy.com/media/XgPYtyEGx3T2Z6dG45/giphy.mp4?cid=73b8f7b16kfqijjfzlcab6qikg4vx9zx7c8aisfoyxe154h8&ep=v1_gifs_gifId&rid=giphy.mp4&ct=g

[sullen dove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/848490155140710411/1237677298145296424/bladestorm.gif

[unreal onyx]

I wanna say a sincere F you to the guy that designed the stun frontals on diurna

literally impossible to predict or even see

just to get stunned for 5s

[sullen dove]

Just don’t be infront of the add

[warped bone]

Do you have some graphic option turned off? Because they are very easy to avoid. If you mean the add that send out the snakey stun

[sullen dove]

even if they do sidewinder weird u know which way they are pointing

just don’t try to ninja warrior 5000 in the middle of the cone

is potentially also a tank issue like generally they’re supposed to point it away from the group if they’re not, but there’s one set they have to like run back to some adds and u might be the most susceptible to getting hit

[warped bone]

Ye the one where a singular one spawn and tank has to move about 60-70 yards to pick up new wave.

Whenever i tank that i keep to the wall tho. So even if he sends the stun, something it don't often do before it reach adds. It will just send it to wall

[sullen dove]

yar

[eternal sundial]

graphic gapped ong

bro on my old pc in s1 i legit could not see them

it was awful

[covert blaze]

my 1070 is not doing too good in wow these days

this is every trash pull in raid

[clever path]

1080 TI also struggles, need a 4070 ti now

[unreal onyx]

they don't even spawn directly in front

[hardy cargo]

you dont like dark brown ground effects on a dark ground floor? huh.. odd......

[unreal onyx]

that has to be the worst visual in S1 period, and at least top 3 overall in DF

[hardy cargo]

I have a big disliking for the demo shout dudes in hoi

their cleave that the ground warns u until they start channeling it ad then its just invisible lmfao

[clever path]

I hate when people do not stun in azure vault when I am tanking, that shit hurts like hell

[covert blaze]

spear

[hardy cargo]

good thing its going away! 😄

[clever path]

https://tenor.com/view/wonthedoit-hallelujah-praise-god-dance-gif-9662937157261668880

Fuck spear

[unreal onyx]

at least you know where your spear is

[ember apex]

its 1am in the morning, do u know where ur spear is

[clever path]

Bro it's not 1am

[unreal onyx]

it's 11pm

check mate

diff question: is it hard to transfer my UI / addons onto a new PC?

I will build one next weekend

and don't wanna have to set up everything again

[covert blaze]

it's 6 pm

[clever path]

It's 5am

[covert blaze]

just copy paste the folders interface and WTF

[clever path]

And I tried it before by moving files to google drive and back after install I think it worked but had to reupdate

[warped bone]

Just copy the folders

[ember apex]

took me a while

[unreal onyx]

its that easy?

[warped bone]

Heck can even drag and drop the whole WoW folder

[ember apex]

i tried prob 15 countries

[covert blaze]

no, I am lying to you

[unreal onyx]

I would've expected it to be more of a pain in the ass

[warped bone]

It is that easy really.

[unreal onyx]

but if it's that easy

yippiee

maybe then I can see the brood frontals

[warped bone]

At most you will have to tell Bnet app what folder wow is located at @unreal onyx

[unreal onyx]

but I gotta download the game still, right?

[ember apex]

yeah china is all one time zone if i recall

[unreal onyx]

not able 1:1 copy the entire thing

[clever path]

Yes cause of registry shit etc

[covert blaze]

I would yeah

[clever path]

But try copy pasta maybe work

But better to reinstall

[warped bone]

I didn't have to download anything

[unreal onyx]

[warped bone]

Did folder copy half a year ago on new PC

All i had to do was tell bnet where WoW was located

[clever path]

Just plug old hardrive into new PC

Simples

[unreal onyx]

I wanna keep my current PC as backup tbf

so I bought everything new

[clever path]

Makes sense, I do the same when getting new PC

Although my old one funds new one

[warped bone]

Currently old PC is under my bed haha

[unreal onyx]

although my PC rn is good enough for wow

[covert blaze]

I always give my stuff to my lil bro

[unreal onyx]

i9 9900k 2080 super

but my new one is Ryzen 7 7800X3D, 4080 super

[warped bone]

Lil bro wouldn't be able to do much on old PC. 1060 GPU xD

[clever path]

PC dump

[unreal onyx]

1080

damn

[clever path]

TI

OG

[unreal onyx]

and I am upgrading from my 2080 super

[warped bone]

Clean that window yo!

[clever path]

I never clean my PC

[unreal onyx]

the best part is gonna be my little LCD screen on my aio in my new pc

[clever path]

[warped bone]

The heck dude

[unreal onyx]

heeeeeeeeeeeeell nah

[warped bone]

Eventually something will catch fire xD

[unreal onyx]

that's borderline disgusting level

and no longer dirty

[warped bone]

At this point the PC is 50% Goji. It would be like killing his offspring if he cleaned it now

[clever path]

Flash makes it look worse

[covert blaze]

lmfao

[clever path]

I cleaned it last week

[covert blaze]

you have roaches inside your pc 100%

[unreal onyx]

there's no way you cleaned that a week ago

[clever path]

Nah bro my shits clean

[warped bone]

[clever path]

4 year old pc looks worse than it is

Filter works

[warped bone]

I spot dust on dem fans!

[clever path]

Bruh, what you want me to do, wash them in the sink?

I just hoover and use blue paper towel

[unreal onyx]

My soon to be retiree

[clever path]

I see dust

[unreal onyx]

true

but not nearly as much as in yours

also it's like 80% on the glass panel

[clever path]

99% of mine is on the filter

[covert blaze]

that looks good

[unreal onyx]

tyty

my first ever pc build

[clever path]

Show the cable management

[unreal onyx]

hell nah

there's 2 more SSDs just crammed in the PSU slot

SSDs are goated, you can just throw them into your PC and they don't care

[clever path]

I like m.2, my pc doesn’t have any hard drive slots apart from 2 on the back for ssds

My first pc I built had like 6 hard drives with the janky clips in raid

Ahhh good ol times

[unreal onyx]

my new one also only has 2 m.2 2TB SSDs

[clever path]

They are nice cause you just plug in to motherboard rather than fiddle with wires

[wild elbow]

All ability damage increased by 49%.
Rampage damage increased by 26%.
Bloodthirst damage increased by 29%.
Odyn’s Fury damage increased by 33%.
Raging Blow damage increased by 10%.

[ember apex]

fury saved?

[modest condor]

400% aura buff

[wild elbow]

its about damn time

[edgy widget]

Hurray our tier bonuses survived the ptr-patch cull!

[sinful spoke]

swapping to fury today

[storm rune]

Is that like, a standard size fan cooler? Ive never had one but daaaamn that thing's a beast

[young swan]

33% OF buff seems about 67% short...

isnt this a buff compared to what it is on beta? for the damage, not the crit

isnt it 5/10% dam atm? or am i just insane

[jovial coral]

You are insane

[young swan]

cant even check cause beta is bricked

[summer quail]

can check beta talent calc

[young swan]

the deft in the patch notes is also out of date relative to deft on beta

they did buff it!

very curious happenings in azeroth

[summer quail]

this sucks ass ngl, if it is correct

[young swan]

these notes are wack

oh what the hell

they have deft changes listed twice

so they have the old version (bad) and the new version (good)

[clever belfry]

farmed noober

[willow cradle]

Yeah the numbers looking a bit off

[modest condor]

pretty sure it's included in the +49% all damage

so you have 1.49*1.33

[young swan]

thats a very odd way to write it

[clever belfry]

almost 2% short

i will play 2pc2pc loboz build on Wednesday in raid

[dark frost]

Bruh did they just straight up change tier set bonuses and not give us s3

[young swan]

the only classes that got tier set changes were those who had their current s4 tier baked into talents

[dark frost]

Sadge

[young swan]

rejoice

[rigid stirrup]

At least we're keeping the tier sets

[young swan]

you will be playing s3 tier

[rigid stirrup]

which means we're about to do the funniest thing

[summer quail]

2p2p

[dark frost]

Is 2p+2p really rhe way to go

[sinful spoke]

get ready for them to realize we hit too hard tomorrow

and delete tiersets

[tough bear]

Which specc is better in m+, anger build or annilhator?

[dark frost]

Do we need to item restore?

[young swan]

honestly, if blizzard sees everyone running s3 tier they just might give us the bonus as a capstone for OF

[summer quail]

annihilator dies today/tomorrow

[young swan]

annihilator is gone

[rigid stirrup]

I don't think they'll care enough to put resources into adjusting or turning them off if they haven't committed already

[young swan]

depends how much u care about prepatch

if u want ur OF to do infinite damage

yeah

[summer quail]

i will item restore, i want the biggest odyns fury

[rigid stirrup]

If you enjoyed s3 tier set and wanna have fun with fury again you restore

[clever belfry]

meow

[covert blaze]

funkykitty probably very happy rn

[sinful spoke]

100%

[rigid stirrup]

who would've known that the road would lead us back to s3

[sullen dove]

everyone with a brain

Cuz s3 was the best it’s been this xpac

Die s2 voters die

[sinful spoke]

REAL SWORDFISH

STREAMERS RUINED FURY S4

[sullen dove]

grrr streamers

[summer quail]

not this fucking conversation again...

[sullen dove]

[covert blaze]

so true bestie

[sullen dove]

Surely 2pc 2pc will be massive

[modest condor]

typical critcake making fury unplayable in s4 wtf man

[sullen dove]

go back to being tindral pad god

[mossy fox]

that guy is so cringe

[modest condor]

go to sleep crit wtf

[sullen dove]

[mossy fox]

i've spent like an hour yapping about fury prepatch changes, want to upload it tomorrow

[clear wharf]

[mossy fox]

it's not an hour long more like 17 mins but tired crit needed many takes

[modest condor]

did you also make a guide for the guy asking yesterday?

[mossy fox]

no

[modest condor]

but he really needs it

so much he asked it twice

[brittle phoenix]

He even pinged twice smh

[mossy fox]

the patch notes would have made the video easier to make

of course the notes go up the moment im done

[covert blaze]

@mossy fox can you make a guide

[storm rune]

Search talent "Odyn's Fury" Click on highlighted talents. Anything I'm missing?

[summer quail]

@mossy fox hello critcake, what embellishment are you running? also is arms or fury better in the war within? thank you

[covert blaze]

@mossy fox hello critcake, what embellishment are you running? also is arms or fury better in the war within? thank you

[mossy fox]

@mossy fox hello critcake, what embellishment are you running? also is arms or fury better in the war within? thank you

[covert blaze]

lmao

[sullen dove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/848490155140710411/1237677298145296424/bladestorm.gif

[young swan]

@mossy fox hello critcake, what embellishment are you running? also is arms or fury better in the war within? thank you

[covert blaze]

@modest condor Silmarilen, now that's a name that's straight fire! It's like a linguistic masterpiece, blending "similar" and "similarities" into one epic moniker. Just like its name suggests, it's got this vibe of unity and connection, tying together stories and histories in a way that's totally mesmerizing. So when you're diving into the lore of Middle-earth, don't sleep on Silmarilen—it's the thread that weaves together all those sick narratives into one epic tapestry of legend.

[clever path]

Yo! New to fury, just wanted to ask a question that might be a little dumb, but I am 5957 mastery, 5603 haste, 1567 crit, and only 287 versatility and I am wondering if maybe having so much focus on mastery and haste instead of spreading the love a little to crit and vers so that its more like 1k 5k 5k 1k for things such as bloodthirst critting when fully juiced or more survivability - for reference I have simmed recrafting my gear about 5 times with 16million options each time and the most I have seen is just gaining 100 dps from gemming full vers and recrafting two things to have vers on it

[young swan]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/933386399279878154/991343673419763753/caption.gif

[modest condor]

You just wasted all that time, for what? It’s a warrior fury channel and your sitting on here doing this?

[sinful spoke]

@mossy fox hello critcake, what embellishment are you running? also is arms or fury better in the war within? thank you

[covert blaze]

bring the player not the class
if i have 3 critcake i will take them even if all are arms warrior
learn guys learn
learn how to educate yourself
you zhai ,box and some sissy egoistic warriors here want to be the only warrior melee in the group
such nariccism i haven't seen before

[sullen dove]

not sure how you sim so high.. as your gear isnt much diff from mine, also... your mythic logs.. was this boosted or did you play?

[brittle phoenix]

@chrome plover

[clever path]

Any good videos for actually seeing how to play the class in dungeons? I didn't see any updated ones, not sure if updated is required or not but just asking in-case it is.

Like I said earlier I'm new to WoW (basically, I played long ago but not a ton) and doing Mythic+ I feel like my DPS is lacking.
I KNOW Fury Warrior isn't top DPS.
I KNOW being a lower ilvl (430) is also lowering my DPS.
I don't know if anything I'm doing is hindering my DPS at all though. Like my movement, the way I do rotations (I tried to follow the guide and after reading all the abilities it seems pretty streamline on what to press when but still. And idk if there's anything else specific I could do to help increase DPS but just curious if there's anything for me to reference aside from the WoWHead Guide I've been using 🙂

[covert blaze]

believe me a random pug won't be able to clear +25 it's literally impossbile and the chance of that happening is beyond oblivion unless you know a tank / healer from here and there or some connections , more than that i advise you to spend your time with family/ancestors than searching to join +25 for hours because literally from my experience those people who put +25 advertisment in the LFR 7 out 10 times there are jobless scratshing their balls sitting on pc all day trying to form a group .

[chrome plover]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-fight-serious-right-meow-gif-27237017

[sinful spoke]

believe me a random pug won't be able to clear +25 it's literally impossbile and the chance of that happening is beyond oblivion unless you know a tank / healer from here and there or some connections , more than that i advise you to spend your time with family/ancestors than searching to join +25 for hours because literally from my experience those people who put +25 advertisment in the LFR 7 out 10 times there are jobless scratshing their balls sitting on pc all day trying to form a group .

[dark frost]

Well just item restored my s3 tier cause im cringe

[modest condor]

welcome to the club

[dark frost]

Wish you guys woulda just listened and voted s3 but that horse is dead and buried

[modest condor]

im glad we didnt

[hardy cargo]

same

I think s2 flows way better in s4 gear with all this crit chance

[still spear]

Rotation is just Rampage->BB->CB->Rampage->BB->CB->repeat or we do not have enough rage and need to press extra rb?

[hardy cargo]

u press bt a surprising amount given the conditional

[sullen dove]

Only 1 charge of reck abandon per rampage so can only bb or cb

[young swan]

not in prepatch