fury

[tender seal]

Not for me

[eternal sundial]

@tender seal are you a /roll 1-2 and then play that spec believer now

It's the only way fated doesnt bore me to death

[autumn dove]

puzzlebox or wowhead bis trinkets?

[tender seal]

Nah i just figured i should try fury for a clear

[oblique trail]

He also sims with 65% uptime of BSL

[placid adder]

what are you M+ boys running for trinkets?

[oblique trail]

I sim 441k with 60%

[oblique trail]

Puzzle + OCE, ideally it'd be Augury instead of OCE but I don't have it

[barren dagger]

we just keep increasing BSL uptime?

i've ascended i'm now 90% BSL avg

i sim 470k

[placid adder]

I thought as much, but all the top fury wars are now running Whispering Incarnate Icon

[oblique trail]

Either one works

Augury, Icon, OCE, or even Pips

Are all very good passive options

[placid adder]

will stick to augury and puzzle box then

[oblique trail]

It just comes down to your group setup which you'd pick

If you pug, then I'd 100% just recommend sticking with Puzzle + Augury

[placid adder]

safe, cheers man

[manic gulch]

guys is it possible to get raidbots profiles from these sims https://www.simulationcraft.org/reports/DF4_Raid.html ?

[oblique trail]

Yes, scroll down, pick the profile, expand, scroll down again, then press profile

Unless you mean the sims themselves

Then to my knowledge no

[manic gulch]

i mean the sim

raidbots has the advanced tab

where i can copy that string and it works

but it doesn't show me the items

nor allows me to make changes besides some very basic options in the simulation tab

[jovial coral]

5 man warrior whispering incarnate icon group les go ?

[celest sierra]

how yall liking the beta fury builds?

think its slayer or Mountain thane for us ?

[mossy fox]

whichever one gets tuned better

or maybe situational

🔮

[celest sierra]

i will say the talent tree did feel nicer

[sullen basin]

is there anything i can do to fix the skill issue that is group leaders hosting raids for the wrong raid and then leaving/disbanding

like

[unreal onyx]

I don't get it

he started a group for a non-awakened raid

and people signed up?

[sullen basin]

amirdrassil

people still want head item/axe

i have axe but im tryna help gf get it

[tender seal]

@eternal sundial did kazzara in aoe talents

[unreal onyx]

oh no

-5k sim dps less

[eternal sundial]

i got a beam on kazz on avatar in execute

[tender seal]

looks nice

[eternal sundial]

went from 430 to end on like 300 something

[eternal sundial]

ye its wl getting stunned

[tender seal]

:/

[junior gale]

aye yo you guys good?

[eternal sundial]

cookin

im 99% sure you arent

[fleet sorrel]

[eternal sundial]

do you have a log

[covert coyote]

Dps does depend on tank and key lvl, as long as you’re using CDs and smashing ramp you should be fine

[sullen basin]

wiped nymue to bomb/soak issue

[unreal onyx]

nymue?

are you 1 week ahead

[eternal sundial]

@tender seal FUCK

[sullen basin]

group of 25 too many people nto enough carries

[eternal sundial]

600k p3 tho

sheesh

[sullen basin]

im running non awakened to help my partner get the axe

and whichever pinkboy becuase apparently everyones a paladin these days

[tender seal]

oooof! nice though

[eternal sundial]

finally got a non scuff log on fated

been trolling very hard

[eternal sundial]

[sullen basin]

could be worse

[humble plover]

wait, these are wizard items

[sullen basin]

what the hell is that second one

[eternal sundial]

spoils

[sullen basin]

is that some kinda mimicussy

[humble plover]

dont fuck it

[unreal onyx]

philwar, more like philmagus

[eternal sundial]

STFU

(my mage isnt named phil anything)

[junior gale]

Classic getting better animations than retail this is the SD animation

[sullen cloak]

Hey guys

Going to run some raid testing tomorrow on the beta as fury

Can anyone give me a rough talent build sugggestion for single and AOE please?

[sullen basin]

yeah but you cant look like this on classic

[junior gale]

just gimmie that animation I need it

I want my cool wings everytime I get a SD proc

[sullen basin]

i forgot to put on whirlwind 😦

[dense elbow]

@unreal onyx I got you beat

[sullen basin]

did you fall in the lava on magmorax

[dense elbow]

tank moved during spear :<

I was very tilted

[unreal onyx]

hps logs go hard

[dense elbow]

DPS logs

By bracket

normal logerinos are just sad

Well, it will be all 99s when I get to 518 ilvl, trust

[sullen basin]

just use roar

[unreal onyx]

in your S3 brackets zzz

[sullen basin]

tank cant move out of that

[dense elbow]

S3 bracket

[unreal onyx]

catching up a lil on my myth

[dense elbow]

I beat you no?

[unreal onyx]

in what

[unreal onyx]

is that heroic?

[dense elbow]

Dps

nah, mythic

[unreal onyx]

I beat you on experiments

[dense elbow]

ye, I beat you on some

I wont beat you on sark tho

so you got that

[eternal sundial]

why are you doing normal

??????

[dense elbow]

Wow, attacking casual raiders, much toxic, much timeout and kick

[eternal sundial]

consistency is king

[dense elbow]

What happened, charged too early?

[eternal sundial]

taunted boss

[tender seal]

solid

[dense elbow]

the play

[eternal sundial]

idk im just vibin

sweep is shift F

taunt is shift G

[dense elbow]

To be fair, gotta defend that 69

[eternal sundial]

you know the deal

[unreal onyx]

heroic gaming

[dense elbow]

Man, I havent done HC I think

I am scared to look

[unreal onyx]

same

and I won't for the rest of the season

these are from 2 weeks ago

[dense elbow]

oh my

that is my HC prog

[eternal sundial]

20 ranks too low

[dense elbow]

Well, so Lol beat me on ilvl, HC and on two bosses mythic. My goal is set. Next week, vault wont scuff me, I will be 518, and I will win on the last two bosses

He can keep HC

[eternal sundial]

518 is uh

lazy ig

[dense elbow]

Lazy?

Lazy?!

You sir, are toxic

[eternal sundial]

i mean i dont play keys and im 529

yes

[dense elbow]

I can only gain ilvl from a mythic neck and sark cape

what you want me to do?

[eternal sundial]

u sure u didnt misstype 518

and 528

[dense elbow]

Nop, 518

[chrome plover]

yeah he runs last season tier

[dense elbow]

^

Still do decent dam

[sullen basin]

only two people got it and neither were warriors what is this world

[dense elbow]

Remember to whisper them gz on behalf of all in skyhold o/

Oh, not warriors

nvm

I retract my statement

[eternal sundial]

i frogor

xd then

[sullen basin]

got shit for kicking someone who deliberately died multiple times on the last boss

[dense elbow]

You did good and was justifed, Bova

So Skyhold has decreed

Just suprised he got multiple chances, you might be too good a person

prob should reroll ret

[unreal onyx]

took the L on magmorax

had to soak 2 out of range

[sullen basin]

ret is the big ego blood elf spec

[unreal onyx]

@wild mural you wanna talk "theoretical" ilvl?

[dense elbow]

Drop crafted, throw in Mythic 4/4

Still no neck? Been two weeks

Bullions maybe?

[unreal onyx]

I just need myth bracers and I am full full max ilvl on every slot except class trink that I could buy today with my 2 bullions

[sullen dove]

theoretical ilvl is like 530.62

[unreal onyx]

wait no, I got you good

[sullen dove]

but thats mid

530 must also be trolling

unless fury ig which uses augury

but as arms im 529.37 and im not gonna b gaining any more ilvl

tho i dont think augury makes up that difference to be 530

[eternal sundial]

i mean ur dropping crafts

if u go high

[sullen dove]

yea

trollin

[dense elbow]

You noticed?

shiit

[wild mural]

no, equipped onlyh

[sullen dove]

but like two very rare trinkets and 2 crafts is +20 ilvl on pieces

which is 1.2 avg ilvl

from what i have now

[wild mural]

I need neck in vault next week and i'm there

[sullen dove]

but like running augury and ctc at the same time is giga trolling

and giving up 2 embells obviously

[eternal sundial]

full aoe surely

[sullen dove]

[wild mural]

m+ arms build

question mark

[sullen dove]

i mean better trinks than call

and augury is ass

compared to some on use

[light stump]

What’s ctc?

[sullen dove]

call to chaos

nelth trink

[light stump]

Ah ty

[wild mural]

it's literally in my name love that trink

[sullen dove]

[wild mural]

this was like my 3rd week ever playin arms

[sullen dove]

1 step beyond based

bazed

[wild mural]

Im mpretty awful at the game

so I was proud of myself

[sullen dove]

i got double pi'd on a potential rank 1 kazz...

[wild mural]

based gaming

[sullen dove]

never wanted to end it more

[dense elbow]

Counts two, no?

3 is the limit

[sullen dove]

no

more than 1

[dense elbow]

It is 1 now?

since when

[sullen dove]

1 priests worth of pi is what i mean

u cant have 2 priests hit you in the same timeframe

idk if thats what u meant

[dense elbow]

Aight, now it makes more sense

[unreal onyx]

I can still equip them

[wild mural]

upgrade and equip them then

[sullen dove]

but yea i only had the second priests pi for like 5 seconds of the whole fight

and ended like 9k above current rank 1... i dont think i wouldve lost it without that small amount of pi...

tragic...

[unreal onyx]

bet

[dense elbow]

Aight, ngl, that kinda sucks - if that was a r1, ya kinda deserved it

[sullen dove]

next time surely

[dense elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/pikachu-sadness-pet-head-caterpie-sad-gif-16792400

[wild mural]

time to make a new UI ready for TWW

[unreal onyx]

syi what's your max ilvl?

[wild mural]

530

need 528 neck and class trink to increase

[unreal onyx]

im also 530 with all my stuff now

so now it shows me at 530 in LFG, right?

[balmy shore]

meee toooo i wanna go to base ui

[eternal sundial]

aka resub to atrocity

[eternal sundial]

but why do base if you can do homebrew elv

[wild mural]

unsub

[eternal sundial]

someday i will unfuck my ui but not today

this should defo be bar 14

[wild mural]

Done

[balmy shore]

what does this mean

[eternal sundial]

elvui cook it fun

[eternal sundial]

yenny ass UI

[wild mural]

ok thats annoying

[eternal sundial]

[balmy shore]

i like how the base game looks i want to get closer to that instead of relying on elvui

[eternal sundial]

i really liked SL base ui

but this new one is stank

[hardy cargo]

if u rlly wanna do ghetto elvui just do bartender 4 with shadowed unit frames

[eternal sundial]

thats just worse than elv

[wild mural]

i just wanna have a simple ui

[sullen basin]

new lava strat for healing pad?

[wild mural]

i cba with addons eating my resources

[balmy shore]

yeah same

[eternal sundial]

surely ur pc is not that bad

[balmy shore]

new ui is really nice tbh also the accessibility additions are very welcomed

[wild mural]

(yes I have a 5900x and a 4070ti and run wow off an NVME SSD but that's not the poiint)

[sullen basin]

real i only have like 8gb they're taking way too much proportionately considering the game uses 50gb

[eternal sundial]

i cant show nice FPS im in valdrakken

[unreal onyx]

my fps in valdrakken are down bad

[eternal sundial]

but this is how it looks usage wise

super fine

[wild mural]

I hit like

400fps the other day

[eternal sundial]

man our sunday rad will be 3 bosses

[wild mural]

too many wa's tbh

[wild mural]

we're apparently gonna do 6 on sunday

but I don't want

[eternal sundial]

we did 6 and fyrank

[wild mural]

we did just fyrakk

and called after an hour

cause they did a vote to decide what we do

and 70% of the raid voted to call immediately

[unreal onyx]

we did fyrakk and 8 today

and im on business trip next week so no sark for me

[eternal sundial]

sark is piss free very fun

[wild mural]

I've not done it

my guild cba

[eternal sundial]

its rlly fun

5:40 boss

[wild mural]

that would be great

if I had a group to do it with

[unreal onyx]

last awakened sark was fun

I would join if I could

[wild mural]

I removed details also

[eternal sundial]

????????????????????????

[wild mural]

bye bye mental killer addon

[unreal onyx]

kinder surprise egg every time you refresh wcl

[eternal sundial]

love x2 aug comp

[wild mural]

just don't refresh wcl to not see the grey parses

[eternal sundial]

BM hunt at 500k? -> 420

[wild mural]

[slim zephyr]

been playing a bit of Mop remix till new exp comes out. Have my main geared and lvl'ing some alts for fun. Tho.. Was wondering, any warrior played single minded fury max geared? Cant find any info online.. since your seccond 2hander gets a massive strength nerf.. not that it realy matters for a faceroll-lol-mod like remix. But was curious and dont want to upgrade 2x 1hander for nothing wile im still buying some mounts.

any fellow war experience with it?

❤️

[eternal sundial]

in remix its fine

neither is bad

2h is a tiny bit better

[slim zephyr]

so no use experimenting with it

and wasting some bronze while still buying mounts and ish.

[unreal onyx]

how much of a meme would it be for me to use nelth trink in m+ instead of 528 hooves?

or int rather

ofc I can sim, but ST sims will alwas heavily favour hooves

[wild mural]

big meme

very funny

[unreal onyx]

and idk if I can trust dslice

[unreal onyx]

you happy now?

[wild mural]

No

[eternal sundial]

mog shit

L trinket

[wild mural]

I'm not happy

[unreal onyx]

boots and belt are obv not mogged smh

phil hates me cuz he ain't me

💅

[sullen basin]

why are you a night elf

meld that good?

[unreal onyx]

nelf bis mog

meld is just a nice thing on the side

[wild mural]

Way to be

[unreal onyx]

[compact knot]

i bought brood ring

healer only healed me for 7 mil, 60% BSL uptime in a 10 ruby

[dense elbow]

That tells me nothing

[compact knot]

11 mil

[dense elbow]

show breakdown

[dense elbow]

Ye, I say that is decent value

[compact knot]

this ring fucks

i had the shield or a part of the shield for 30% of the key

thats really good uptime isnt it

or proc rate

[dense elbow]

ye, good enought that I might give it a whirl for HPS funs

Ringswap would be -2k dps, but oh well

[compact knot]

yeah it was a massive dps loss

cause no socket for me

like 4k

idk if the bsl uptime is worth it

[tardy lark]

you'll get a socket

[young swan]

aint

no

fucking

WAY

sod gets broxigars axe

and we didnt in legion

[sudden tusk]

need tmog

[hardy cargo]

the sod changes are uh

something else

we are losing about 40% in damage amps LOL

warrior is kinda getting owned but at least we get death grip

[young swan]

dont care

they stole our fucking axe

[hardy cargo]

im still gonna get it

so your axe got stolen not mine

[young swan]

if i cant get it on retail its not real or worth getting

[hardy cargo]

itll all be on retail eventually

[dapper goblet]

👨‍🦼

[balmy shore]

what does axe look like

[tardy lark]

bad

[tardy lark]

https://www.wowhead.com/classic/news/broxigars-axe-model-datamined-in-season-of-discovery-phase-4-ptr-axe-of-cenarius-342902

[young swan]

its sick as fuck fuck you

[rotund ginkgo]

do i buillon asscandy or a 2nd trinket

hm

its either OCE, signet, or asscandy

i guess we sim

asscandy surely

signet has to be simbait most fights are sub 5 mins

[wraith wharf]

i take it you missed the +2 bullion from the mythic dungeon weekly

[balmy shore]

hmmm

it seems like an axe you give to a warlock pet

[young swan]

it seems like an axe i would never mog off of

[balmy shore]

xan is a pet confirmed

[loud locust]

hey im trying to get the legion artifacts and im doing the balance of power questline and im on the quest ( Tempering Darkness) i have to collect 30 blood of sargaras, does anyone have a way to farm them fast?

[rotund ginkgo]

if u refer to the one on week 2? then no

i didnt

[tardy lark]

[dapper goblet]

crazy xan is pogging out about a level 18 green vanilla axe but was in tears he had to channel a 50mil damage keys 25k+ sim shadowflame axe held by an incarnate

hate that guy

[sudden tusk]

@young swan

they just buffed bronze im about to fight someone

[sullen dove]

i mean.. was obv gonna happen at some point

better now than in a month

might even get buffed again later

[icy panther]

what WA is that tracker?

[sudden tusk]

https://wago.io/6953n7SYm

[icy panther]

thanks 🙂

[modest condor]

i got that weakaura, it gave me like 200 lua errors so i deleted it again

[dapper goblet]

/console scriptErrors 0

[sullen dove]

👨‍🦼

[dapper goblet]

not allowed to use my emote

did not give perms

[vocal igloo]

anybody clearing awakened mythic aberrus this week and needs a spot filled? i have all all mythic awakened cleared, just looking to fill out vault

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/yap-yap-yap-omg-hot-gif-14385438

[left perch]

Jackie gets it

[upbeat sentinel]

Do the Ensembles in remix actually work now

Like if I buy an evoker one on my warrior, does it actually unlock

[muted star]

yes but at the cost of removing the awakened season

[eternal sundial]

Ye

[flat river]

Im raiding today with my mythic raiding guild

[calm swallow]

Idk how I feel about using grieftorch for Fury lol it usually sims badly for me in s1 and in other sims I've done in s4 lol

[eternal sundial]

What kinda sim is that

[calm swallow]

Droptimizer for the raid-boss bullion vendors, DungeonSlice, and items maxed out

[slim coral]

sim ST

dungeonslice bad

[red berry]

is AoE and ST in sim just one to one

[calm swallow]

I always sim both, cause for fortified weeks sometimes dslice is helpful

But the same conditions for Patchwerk sim show nothing is an upgrade also lol

[wild mural]

Bazed

[bitter palm]

bazed take

[flat river]

Bazed

[eternal sundial]

@wild mural baze owns you

[wild mural]

I am not a slave

[flat river]

Naw baze owns me

[slim coral]

I am Baze owner of all

[zinc obsidian]

guys, if u fully upgrade one awakened wep, and buy another can u just spend flightstones to max upgrade?

[chrome plover]

yes

[unreal onyx]

Fuck yea

I knew it

I knew it all along

[zinc obsidian]

nah

u cant

unluck

[chrome plover]

if you upgrade a 2h

all other 2hs are flightstones only

it has been this way since the upgrade system came into being

so unless you are talking about 1h weapons, you can

[zinc obsidian]

yeah it was about dh as i thought the question would be relevant here with the whole dual wield thing, but yea - 1h and 2h differences, oops

my mistake, cheers tho

[chrome plover]

okay np

yeah fury has it different because we use 2h weapons :p

every slot has to be upgraded separately (trinkets/rings/weapons) but 2h counts for both slots

[zinc obsidian]

yeah i just had a moment of stupidity

[chrome plover]

hahaha

did u have a lot saved?

[tender cairn]

lolxd be like

[light stump]

does 2h count for 1h though ?

like if you upgrade 2h, are 1hs discounted?

[tender cairn]

yea

[light stump]

but not shield i assume

[tender cairn]

shield too

[light stump]

sexy

[tender cairn]

2h is basically both slots

[chrome plover]

yep

like how you can upgrade 2 dps trinkets and still upgrade tank trinkets with discount

[light stump]

i guess arms still has it easier bc they only need one 2h

[chrome plover]

yes but it's a nice change in the past fury has had a massive cost because 2hs are more expensive and we use 2

for any similar system at least

[tender cairn]

pretty sure the 2nd 2 h is also discounted for fury

[light stump]

it is

I think chawie was just saying it didn't use to be

[chrome plover]

yes

[tender cairn]

altho even with disc still shitton of stones

[flat river]

Guys

I love u so much

Would die for any of you

[unreal onyx]

I had some, but only like 25 big ones

Only saved those since I only do dailies

But I did call it

[chrome plover]

im just gonna keep levelling characters

leveling feels mega rewarding

[left perch]

um

[random raptor]

What's a good overrall dps for fury +14 HOI

[wild mural]

More than 7

[random raptor]

😅

[chrome plover]

pull up the +11 HOI warrior only details

good overall is more than whatever that was

[wild mural]

Real

I did atleast 7 there

[chrome plover]

true

i did at least 8

[tender cairn]

in a dungeon right

for those sweet torch resets

[flat river]

anything

u can have my bank details

i dont mind

UwU

[tender cairn]

[wild mural]

I can’t find it

[chrome plover]

was that the whole dungeon

💀

[tender cairn]

imagine having fun

[chrome plover]

goated ui

[tender cairn]

[mossy fox]

is @rotund ginkgo gear still shit

[rotund ginkgo]

It's slightly better

Why dad?

[mossy fox]

nice

[rotund ginkgo]

I got asscandy

Builloned it

And got 525 leggies w bsl

My arms is more geared though

[mossy fox]

you played this last week right

[rotund ginkgo]

Ilvl wise

barely

Why

Did I miss something?

[mossy fox]

isnt this week uh

incorp

[rotund ginkgo]

Oh u wanna 5 war?

[mossy fox]

last week was doable for 5war iirc

[rotund ginkgo]

u always push on good weeks

💀

[mossy fox]

true...

[rotund ginkgo]

And I gave up pushin for the season

[mossy fox]

dont blame you

[rotund ginkgo]

Flying to visit Familia in the US in 2 weeks

For like 24 days lmao

Yh literally worst season by far feel wise

With the population

[final birch]

shattering throw

[mossy fox]

[mossy fox]

yeah when i pug keys for fun there arent many groups listed atm

[chrome plover]

remix, cata, sod, season 4

[final birch]

nah wdym

[chrome plover]

beta

[final birch]

its alive

[chrome plover]

you found that result real fast at least

[final birch]

imagine if I spent more than 0.001s

[chrome plover]

cant have that

[unreal onyx]

Just tank it this week

[wild mural]

Who’s that handsome chap 2nd on the list

[warm crag]

i don't know they're dead and in a ditch never to be seen again

you did this, syi

[wild mural]

They’re in the retirement home tbh

[chrome plover]

i miss them

[wild mural]

I’m not them

I couldn’t be them

[warm crag]

how are u feeling little man (medically)

[sullen basin]

swag

ashkandur so good

[dense elbow]

Buff legendary on use 500% when?

[chrome plover]

august 22nd

(special effect disabled on tww release)

[sullen basin]

real

i have 5set is that goated with the sauce or is it cringe
I dont have any alternative pieces to use to swap to to break it

[clever belfry]

WHATCHA PUSHIN BUD

[rotund ginkgo]

WATCHA PUSHIN

CAN I HAVE SOME CLEAVE MAYHAPS

YOU DOGSHIT TANKS

[rotund ginkgo]

Not just the amount but the quality lmao

I reached 3.3 and it just stopped being enjoyable when literally I'm fighting against myself to not lose my shit more than the game

[chrome plover]

i think there is better statted helmet(?) and legs

it's fine to run 5 though

obviously

[wild mural]

Very poor

I’m constantly tired work is stressing me out, my legs hurt a fuck ton when I walk and my mental is at an all time low

So pretty standard tbf

[eternal sundial]

Are you able to call in sick to get the sleep and shit sorted

[wild mural]

Narp

[dense elbow]

Imagine the quality in a 10 key

[rotund ginkgo]

I don't need to, I do 6-7s on my vdh tank

[dense elbow]

6-7, what, how why

[rotund ginkgo]

I okay vdh for literally 2 days and people tell me I'm doing just fine

Oh I'm like 490 ilvl

[dense elbow]

I did 10s at 489

week 1

wut

[rotund ginkgo]

And I'm completely new to tanking and to vdh

[dense elbow]

Ah, fair

[rotund ginkgo]

I'm sure it's doable, I'm just brain dead

[dense elbow]

ye VDH is a bit tricky to get used to, fair fair

[rotund ginkgo]

Still not good uptime on spikes n shit

[dense elbow]

flops real fast when ya botch up meta and spikes

[rotund ginkgo]

Yeeeeeeep

[fading sky]

Easier than bdk😅

[rotund ginkgo]

"mf these mobs can't touch me"

"AAAAAAAAAAAAAA"

my 2 dh moods

[dense elbow]

BDK is so easy tho

[rotund ginkgo]

But satisfying. More enjoyable than I thought

[fading sky]

Dk mood is im good // food

[rotund ginkgo]

Maybe it's cuz I'm a melee dps so it's engrained stuff like frontals and movement and packs and shit

I notice my rangeds in the frontals 24/7 lmao

IDIOTS!!! AMATEURS!!

[fading sky]

Then u realize its u aiming them?

🤣

[eternal sundial]

No days left or no one else at Office

[dense elbow]

DK mood is:
https://youtu.be/F0XzMOW0wgI?t=4

[final birch]

I still have that

I spam spikes on cd

so sometimes when im out of shit

I feel deadge

[rotund ginkgo]

Real

[final birch]

on warrior at least I understand when im fucked

on vdh if im not in meta

I dont know if im fucked or not

[fading sky]

Dk is not hard, but super punishing

[dense elbow]

Warrior is:
"Oh, is that spell damage DoT coming? Welp."

BDK is all:
"How much more damage can I take inside this global, can I spend it or die?"

[fading sky]

Unless its a new pull

[dense elbow]

I never had an issue with onpull, thanks to gripphands and DRW

[fading sky]

So much easier as prot pala

[dense elbow]

Well, that be true, I guess

Not easier than warr tho - shieldcharge, gg wp

You inspired me, think I will do a key on my BDK now, sounds like fun

[fading sky]

I enjoy it a lot puggin 7-8s at bout 500 ilvø

Sometimes very very easy

When grp is decent

[dense elbow]

Why 8s at 500?

Ah, for aspects

[fading sky]

Vault and gear

[dense elbow]

7s was mythic track? Cant remember

[fading sky]

Y

But vault

8

[chrome plover]

8 vault is myth track

7 end of key is hero track

[dense elbow]

🫡

[chrome plover]

6 is aspects

🫡

[fading sky]

But i deffo just need more exp pulling when i dont have drw and slappys

And leggo weap woulda been nice but prob wont happwn😅

[dense elbow]

Lego weap on BDK is hard to fit on other than bosses

[chrome plover]

fyrakk big shield trinket

seems pog

[dense elbow]

That is big

I use it :>

[fading sky]

I didnt take it🤣

[dense elbow]

pop it so I can do legendary

[fading sky]

I got hc anvil

[chrome plover]

idk if it’s bis but it’s an insane shield on use

[fading sky]

And awakened torcg

[chrome plover]

and does some dam

[dense elbow]

Get Aug, Aug pumps

Aug and Shield trinky just feels perfect

[fading sky]

I 100% regret my.choices

But who cares its meme alt🤣

[dense elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/robert-redford-jeremiah-johnson-nodding-yes-nod-of-approval-gif-21066931

[fading sky]

Just need it decently geared

In case i reroll in tww

520+ should do it

[dense elbow]

530ish sounds about right

[fading sky]

🤣

Sounds like a lot of work

[left perch]

reroll in tww won’t come from this gear, gonna pass 520 at level 80

[full portal]

Is it possible for us to be 530 without using rageheart? Does anyone have all the 535s to know?

[chrome plover]

yeah

ring, weapon, 1x trinket and cloak at 535

puts you at 530 ilvl

[full portal]

Even with 2 crafted pieces?

[chrome plover]

yea

[sullen basin]

swag if the legs are a dungeon item then i can just do that slot as the good one if its raid GGNORE im catting dungeon stuff i do not raid above heroic i am a shrimple player

[dense elbow]

what are wyrm crests? ._.

HC, or 6, right?

HC or 5, AI to the rescue

[chrome plover]

2-5

[dense elbow]

makes you wonder what is the point of all the levels, when there are only 2 ppl will see

[fickle bluff]

me when i spread misinformation over the internet

[left perch]

Greg that’s arms tho

don’t you become 530 in fury

[fickle bluff]

OH ilvl doesnt count

[chrome plover]

wait but syi posted this the other day

[left perch]

[unreal onyx]

syi had 1 embell on

[chrome plover]

oh what

what a troll

[unreal onyx]

im also 530

(if I would troll)

[chrome plover]

i didnt even consider not equipping 2 crafted pieces

i would be too in bags yeah...

[dense elbow]

smh

[unreal onyx]

im 530 in bags now

that is the ilvl that shows in lfg, right?

[dense elbow]

yep

[unreal onyx]

huge

maybe I can get into 8s now

[dense elbow]

ppl see me que up as 530, but in reality I am 517

[unreal onyx]

im 530 bags, 529 equipped

[fickle bluff]

also if it did your ilvl as fury would go down what are you smoking vhys

[chrome plover]

haste/mast legs from neltharus are probably slightly better than catalysed ones, but it will be a tiny diff

[unreal onyx]

or

just sim

[iron portal]

sim just

[chrome plover]

but why droptimiser for a precise tailored answer when you can ask skyhold for a feelycraft probably-wrong answer?

[unreal onyx]

true and real tbh

[sullen basin]

if theres any crit/vers on the tier legs they're better in dungeons anyway

im lacking crit rn only 32% without flask

vers is uhhh 22 or 26

[chrome plover]

i dont know my stat values

but sim said neltharus legs are better than tier

for me :)

[sullen basin]

i didnt even sim i just wanted more mastery so i catted

[chrome plover]

also you could just do a few myth bosses this week

[sullen basin]

i had non-tier for chest and shoulder

now i have 5set

[chrome plover]

the assault ones are bis iirc

[sullen basin]

shrimple

[chrome plover]

or gnarlroot next week those are good too

[sullen basin]

i have never touched mythic id rather do m+ for the much more "free" gear

[chrome plover]

it's free-er because it's worse

[sullen basin]

it's free-er because it's in the vault (it's free)

do easy content thats slightly harder than heroic, not lots harder
get rewarded with gear other people have to try for

being changed to 10s next season that sucks but ill still just do that instead

[shy knot]

Mythic raiding is perfect for NEETS cuz you get to have a virtual job atleast

[sullen basin]

if they're gonna force us to do higher keys for vualt at least let us do even higher than that for myth drops as well

[fickle bluff]

me when nothing changes but the visual number is lower 😱

[chrome plover]

ok this doesnt work for me i took my 4th set of sockets yesterday

[shy knot]

More stressful than the real one kek

[sullen basin]

what are you on about? next season the number is higher not lower

[shy knot]

Never gonna happen

[sullen basin]

right now you do 8 for myth vault
next season its 10

[fickle bluff]

yeah i get what you mean now

people who do "vault keys" anyway are lame

[sullen basin]

gonna suck but 10s arent hard

[chrome plover]

but 8s are harder than 10s to pug honestly

[sullen basin]

i have had a reasonable experience pugging 8s

[sullen basin]

people who pug mythic raid for vault are lamer

just have a guild that still raids content that doesnt matter

[chrome plover]

but pushing m+ is cringe this season especially

raid with the boys is fun

[sullen basin]

i got 2308 im good

[fickle bluff]

pushing is also cringe

just do max vault

[sullen basin]

8s both weeks all dungeons

[chrome plover]

isnt that vault keys which is what u just called cringe

wdym

[sullen basin]

yeah

[fickle bluff]

no

[sullen basin]

8s is the minimum for myth

[fickle bluff]

people do the lowest tier they can for myth loot

[sullen basin]

so doing only 8s is cringe

allegedly

thts me 🖐🏻

[chrome plover]

oh yeah i just do 10s

i feel like if you can spam pug 8s for vaults you can do 10s

[sullen basin]

i am missing myth on 3 slots

[chrome plover]

they are just as braindead

and you save crests

[sullen basin]

why would i put more effort in for the same reward

[chrome plover]

at this point in the season it doesnt matter sure

but crests absolutely mattered earlier

[sullen basin]

since its no longer week 1 i dont save anything since my lowest is 522 rn

[chrome plover]

you still save aspects wdym

oh right you have 522

from hero

[sullen basin]

yeah

[chrome plover]

[glad coyote]

only thing that matters is IO

[sullen basin]

i need like uhhhh

250 more crests to max out current + vendor ring next week

something like that

[chrome plover]

awkward

[sullen basin]

i had 1 week with 1 vault rest ive done either 2 or 3 myth vault slots

[chrome plover]

(I was baited into the 12, was spamming 10s and someone put a 12 in )

[sullen basin]

i hav 1 10

[chrome plover]

and the 11 was warrior only meme key

otherwise it's just 10s for my vault

[fickle bluff]

got you beat bud

[sullen basin]

um
apparently i havent done 8 for ulda or brh this week

my key is ulda i think

[chrome plover]

brackenhide

I actually like that key

[sullen basin]

i actually dont

[chrome plover]

one of my favourites of the set

[sullen basin]

it was bad last week for sure wouldnt wanna heal it with incorp

aff i mean

incorp inshmorp who care

my current key is either nokhud or ulda idk

game closed

arm hurty had to break

forgive me

probably too weak to have run that

[wild mural]

Brackenhide and AA are the only good keys

[sullen basin]

AA and Neltharus are the only good keys

[wild mural]

Incorrect

[glad coyote]

whats awkward about it?

[fickle bluff]

because io doesnt mean anything

[glad coyote]

than why is it in the game?

[fickle bluff]

because some people care about it

[glad coyote]

exactly so people do care about it

[wild mural]

Another silly number to generalise people’s skill

[sullen basin]

I only have 2300, i get invited for my gear not my io

nobody wants a 2300 everybody wants someone higher than the riffraff 510s

[chrome plover]

low + vault key spammer

[sullen basin]

too bad i cant buy legs/shoes on the vendors

[chrome plover]

neltharus is a bad dungeon ngl

[glad coyote]

its a great dungeon

[wild mural]

I don’t get invited despite my ilvl

[sullen basin]

damn that um
the legendary must get weighted really high on wowprogress

[glad coyote]

woprst dungeon is halls and ulda

[wild mural]

530/2600

[sullen basin]

it was like 140k 2 ilvls ago

[chrome plover]

i think aa > bracken > rest > nelth > ulda

[glad coyote]

AA and bracken are amazing keys

[chrome plover]

wowprog ilvl/simc stats are so worthless

90% of players arent updated i swear

[wild mural]

Bracken > AA > all the other dogshit keys

[wild mural]

False

[fickle bluff]

playing with an elastic band > m+

[chrome plover]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-man-rain-hurricane-tornado-gif-22059451

[sullen basin]

i updated the ilvl page (and also everyones sim dps) and i dropped by 1 on my realm 😦

top 11 😦

im just glad im beating mr 17 that guy really loves harry potter

[chrome plover]

wat

[wild mural]

I’m number 1 world

[unreal onyx]

wrong

[wild mural]

Look number 1

[sullen basin]

hes the gm of the guild i used to be in dw about it i left for political reasons
i dropped from 1 to 7 after updating them

[unreal onyx]

nice R23

[chrome plover]

i understood why him liking harry potter would be a negative i just thought it was something to do with his name and not that you knew him

[chrome plover]

yeah and im 525

[sullen basin]

nah his name is just some finnish thing or whatever

[glad coyote]

wowprogress has been dead for years

[chrome plover]

(im 529)

[sullen basin]

nice try number 3

[unreal onyx]

look guys, we did it

[sullen basin]

wowprogress would show your ilvl as like 529.5

bc of your offhand

they correctly do the math that blizzard does not

gegenstandsstufe

sounds like an anime robot

[chrome plover]

no

if it was like that they syi would also not show as 530

[sullen basin]

if i want a free neck i have to spend two soup tokens on ouroboreal neck

[chrome plover]

or he logged off as arms i guess

[wild mural]

Yeah

[chrome plover]

anyways he's actually 11th

[wild mural]

I am arm

[chrome plover]

in real lore

[wild mural]

Yeah cause I haven’t parsed anything with this gear

[sullen basin]

how come you lot are all playing elves

[chrome plover]

yeah because it's suboptimal to use 1 embelly

[unreal onyx]

nelf bis mog

[chrome plover]

am I a joke to you?

[sullen basin]

you are a coward thats for sure

[chrome plover]

?

[sullen basin]

not even wearing the bikini

[chrome plover]

i didnt have enough tendies

and wanted this set more

[sullen basin]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-cat-smol-small-ragey-gif-26398063

[chrome plover]

my hunter is also ready for summer

[sullen basin]

is the flower necklace part of the shirt

[unreal onyx]

I got 2 bullions spare now

I don't wanna buy signet, seems pointless

[wild mural]

I’m just built different I suppose

[chrome plover]

Why

really good on a few bosses

[unreal onyx]

not worth the 2 bullions to buy a trink that's good on 3 bosses in the season

[sullen basin]

i bought oce becuase its really okay on everything

spend them on a transmog item you dont have normal througn mythic unlocked

[unreal onyx]

also I have 528 hooves, which is basically the 2nd best ST trink I can get

[fickle bluff]

[chrome plover]

It’s defo worth imo bullions have no value

so a trinket for 3 bosses (it’s actually 5 or 6)

[sullen basin]

I guess top 1 US is just 10% better than top 5 EU

[chrome plover]

Is higher than that

[wild mural]

Holy moly

[sullen basin]

actually bullions do have value

in about 10 weeks they're gonna become wortha bout 100-1000 gold each

that means unless you want a transmog, its better to not spend them 🙂

[fickle bluff]

[sullen basin]

most items are not worth 200+ gold

[dense elbow]

wth is the 2-5 key range

this is harder than 10s by a mile

[sullen basin]

packs surviving and feral and mage still doing no damage?

set a bag of poop on fire on their step

[dense elbow]

I only managed to +1 it

[sullen basin]

what the flip

I did a 2 on my dk once

actually it was a 0 nevermind

i have no score on it i just checked

it went well 🙂

[dense elbow]

My biggest issue as BDK, is things dont do enough DPS, so they actually can kill me over time :v

[chrome plover]

wowee you are so good

[sullen basin]

just get more mastery

[indigo arch]

berserker rage baseline again soon? holy fk yes pls

do that with reflect and intervene too kty

[sullen basin]

meat cleaver baseline and smf baseline please

or like
the regular whirlwind cleave and only have meat cleaver as a talent to make it better....

considering that fucking surv hunters are getting free aoe when they already have enough why cant we

[warm crag]

noted the hat sunglass combo

[fickle bluff]

her drip?

[dense elbow]

Ours is basically free, no? Last time I heard anything about the dps diff, it was under 2%

[indigo arch]

oh neat dstance baseline too

EW hurricane gone

knew it was coming but fuck

[dense elbow]

I am so happy

now I just want Hurricane Jr gone

[sullen basin]

we have to spend a talent to get any cleave on our normal stuff

[fickle bluff]

storm of steel is so good bro you just dont know it yet

[sullen basin]

thats not free

unhinged is poggies

[dense elbow]

the oppertunity cost is neglible

[mossy fox]

unhinged bladestorm BTs are quite neat with deft experience

means you dont need a fresh enrage before you press BS

[fickle bluff]

yeah thats nice

[sullen basin]

are you taking bladestorm because its good or because we have bladestorm back and its novel

[mossy fox]

idk it was just one of my small gripes about BS on fury in the past

[fickle bluff]

taking bladestorm because slayer

[indigo arch]

Defensive Stance no longer reduces damage dealt by Protection Warriors.

neat stuff

prot warr needs to return to S

[fickle bluff]

they still lose damage, just less

[sullen basin]

does slayer not work with ravager because considering it's a choice node no fucking way we get forced to pick one of them over the other for the hero talent

[gilded pawn]

yes you are forced into bladestorm for slayer

[sullen basin]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-what-the-fuck-the-fuck-is-this-wth-gif-17571836

[indigo arch]

good, fuck ravager

return to spin

[sullen basin]

thane it is

[indigo arch]

embrace monke

[sullen basin]

i dont wanna bladestorm

if i cant cancelaura bladestorm whats the point

[indigo arch]

pve and pvp fury getting bladestorm back is such a fuckin W

[sullen basin]

pvp yes

pve /shrug

[chrome plover]

bladestorm was only bad because you couldnt kick/cc during it and signet was cringe

[indigo arch]

add a cancelaura for bladestorm to a macro for charge

[chrome plover]

both of those things are gone now

bladestorm fucks

[mossy fox]

bladestorm feels a lot better when bladestorm itself is good

and not just a hurricane generator

[chrome plover]

yes if ur pressing bladestorm for bladestorm

good

[indigo arch]

been fucking ages since the actual ability was something to be excited about

mop bladestorm with bloodbath, unf

[chrome plover]

one of the things i cant get over about arms aoe is pressing all these globals so that I do more damage with other things

eugh

[mossy fox]

at least that seems fixed in tww from what ive seen

[chrome plover]

i havent looked at much but demolish looks cool

so i hope so

slow rampage that does big damage

[meager void]

now that you mention this, whats your take on my dilemma:
With Fury mainspec 535 Augury + 522 Coiled Serpent (could be 522 hooves if I farm but zzzz)
With Prot offspec with 535 Augury + 522 Grapnel

What would you suggest: bullion Signet Brand for both or bullion Gholak's just for prot.

[tender cairn]

actually curious, is this last season or?

[chrome plover]

no it was like 3 weeks ago

[tender cairn]

oh shit

did yall clear it

[left perch]

Thaneofa!!

[chrome plover]

ofc nothing but the best

[tender cairn]

yooo

[chrome plover]

dont look 3rd boss timer

[left perch]

Did the arms die a lot

[chrome plover]

tbh only deaths were people being stupid

and then 4 deaths on the 3rd boss

(myrt 6 mins solo)

[left perch]

[fleet sorrel]

[left perch]

I need you to do that for my eu warrior soon

[chrome plover]

was fun

[tender cairn]

I need u to do that on afflicted week

[chrome plover]

ok no

[tender cairn]

[left perch]

we did this cursed 3 warrior +20 last season on afflicted

had to rotate storm bolts