fury

[sullen basin]

I'm a casual +8 key player I only do like 400k overall

[left perch]

440k sim vs 390k sim pov

[wild mural]

I am big noober

[sullen basin]

arms sim 5 bajillion
arms play 1 dps
fury sim 0 dps
fury play 5 bajillion

its shrimple

[dapper goblet]

👨‍🦼

[left perch]

ok bova sofa nova

[wild mural]

i never played arms before this patch

[sullen basin]

didnt i ask for people not to say that

[wild mural]

yes an ppl still called me english

[sullen basin]

i played arms for the first time in nathria then didnt play it (knowingly, maybe i was drunk who knows) til last season even a little bit

do not vibe with arms

does 496 legendary beat 528 asscandy for arms

[wild mural]

no

[sullen basin]

then i will not play arms

if i cant equip my orange stick i wont even try it

shrimple

[wild mural]

have you considered

upgrading it

[sullen basin]

yeah

do not soup token

[wild mural]

also 496 ashk wouldn't beat a 528 wep in the offhand for fury :/

[sullen basin]

496 legendary beats a 522 offhand

idk bout a 528
notsure why you said ashk

[wild mural]

cause im not paying attention

[sullen basin]

according to silmarilen or whoever it was legendary owns

[wild mural]

i disagree

[sullen basin]

for single target it sims better for me

[polar remnant]

this is so inspirational thank u funky

[sullen basin]

for aoe who knows

[wild mural]

i am a leggo haver and hater

[sullen basin]

i am also a leggo hater

its still better

class scaled around having it and we still suck

[polar remnant]

give it to druids instead 😁

[wild mural]

I wonder what my dam would be like if I used ashk instead

[forest owl]

victory fire on lei shen is absolutely disgusting

[sullen basin]

yeah do that

oh yeah lei shen has 8 trillion ads

[forest owl]

wish every boss was like that xD

[sullen basin]

only killed it twice once nm once hc since ward nerf

[foggy pond]

What is victory fire?

[foggy pond]

Oh, right

Lei shen and primordius would be good bosses for that

[oblique trail]

Only possible because of a very powerful healer

[foggy pond]

Anyone got a timerunning horde character that can help me xfer gems

lol

[polar remnant]

im EU or i would sry mate

[foggy pond]

Damn saturdays and everyone is asleep until noon -.-

[polar remnant]

give urself sum credit plz ur a slammer warrior and amazing dps

[oblique trail]

Doubt

[foggy pond]

Does leech count as healing

like Righteous Frenzy

You couldn't use this on yourself could you

[unreal onyx]

any1 know why the WA for the BT tierset shows 21% crit when my char window shows my crit at 31% ?

[foggy pond]

oh woah

It does trigger on Fury when you use bloodthirst

[left perch]

You can prolly trade with yourself in a second window tbh

I did that for making my leggo

[foggy pond]

what do you mean by that

I don't have two accounts

[left perch]

same account just keep logging into the other character, first dcs but stays in game for awhile

idk if it works for trade but it works for a good bit of stuff. taught my evoker the recipes for legendary that way

you use LFG to invite yourself to a group

[unreal onyx]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/huwWy1mcmRhru9PLFcZB2b ilvl gain next week it is (maybe)

@wild mural 530 too next week

[wild mural]

huge

[flat river]

hug-e

[foggy pond]

Anyone know of a good floating combat text addon?

Parrot used to be my go-to but it's beyond dead lol

@left perch won't let me do it at all

[left perch]

Shid. My toon is alliance or I would’ve offered easier option

[somber elk]

guys where can I get rings etc. with alts?

[hardy cargo]

on remix? at any bazaar

[clever belfry]

it does, but leech does not trigger when you're full hp.

so a lot of it is wasted :3

[sullen dove]

:3

balls

yo ander I tried to roll on alhaitham weapon but got clorinde weapon instead and got very sad but then I gave it to my ayaka and now she has 300 crit damage

[foggy pond]

idk if this is actually true

[clever belfry]

you can believe me, or be wrong

your choice

[sullen dove]

[foggy pond]

It's not true

[clever belfry]

it is absolutely true

theres no full overhealing

ill repeat myself

believe me, or be wrong

[dense elbow]

[foggy pond]

no wait

I was usingBT

you're right

[clever belfry]

👍

[sullen dove]

ball

[clever belfry]

im not sure theres stuff past leech that works like this

its a bit weird yep

[foggy pond]

It's not that I didn't believe you, I was more just curious because of the warmth effect on the tinker gem

[clever belfry]

the one that converts dmg to healing (i forgor the name)

also procs on full hp targets

if u arent using that, you 100% should

[foggy pond]

vindication

[clever belfry]

ya

[foggy pond]

it's pretty nice but not great synergy like I wish it was

It also doesn't seem like leech counts as "healing" or else righteous fury would be active all the time

[modest condor]

i believe sporecloak worked the same? but would have to check a log to make sure and meh

[sullen dove]

in a normal siege boosted by a basically max cloak guy he had us all stand in a corner for nazgrim, and im assuming his lifestorm healing us is what caused him to do so much healing but his fueled by victory i think which turns healing into dmg did like 120mil dmg in 5 seconds

[foggy pond]

I could be wrong though

[modest condor]

oh and second wind

[clever belfry]

u mean the passive healing?

i can check

[modest condor]

yeah

the healing when above 70% or something

[clever belfry]

andasimp surely has a log with it

noobers

andasimp was simply built diff

[clever belfry]

@gleaming siren u need to blast more burst

[foggy pond]

Yea it doesn't count as healing for purposes of activating any of the tinker gem effects, unfortunately..
Leech doesn't "heal" it "steals," I guess

[modest condor]

damage taken graph Kappa

[sullen dove]

first and last time aug was good in raid

[foggy pond]

but fervor definitely counts as damage
too bad memory of vengeance is only %str from base

[clever belfry]

it full overheals

[modest condor]

damn

[clever belfry]

i didnt even have spore equipped in first log

thats why it took me so long

i got diffed in this one gg

[sullen dove]

pretty fun doin the 20 second assault buffing an unholy

[modest condor]

second wind definitely doesnt heal when at full hp tho

[clever belfry]

i believe this is correct

shirely one of these uses SW

[modest condor]

http://puu.sh/K8xkX/70bfa46524.png

[sullen dove]

whats this 10% uptime

[clever belfry]

nah it doesnt full OH

the zaqali one doesnt even use SW

👑

built diff

[modest condor]

i just use second wind everywhere because i have a free talent point and i know i never remember to press fake kyrian phial anyway

[clever belfry]

in the zaqali i was playing BI

[modest condor]

yeah that one

[clever belfry]

we were getting rolled

at the end

good thing i had 4 buttons

[modest condor]

4 whole buttons wowie

[clever belfry]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/dN7nrAw4tG8kYJCL#fight=27&type=healing

Do not 2 heal sennarth

its not it

https://i.imgur.com/2G44IE5.png holy shit i didnt realise
IM INSANE

[sullen dove]

🧑‍⚕️ 📈

[eternal sundial]

but it says washed up sir

[clever belfry]

yeah whole guild is washed

phil did u play funny spec on council this week

or did u play at all..

[sullen dove]

which ones funny..

[clever belfry]

blademasters reaping swings mbg

[sullen dove]

o i did that

so good

[clever belfry]

i think i griefed it

hard

1:57 kill
played 60s roar

[sullen dove]

i didnt extend hurricane correctly so that made me very sad

[clever belfry]

griefed opener

[sullen dove]

then bosses kinda moved at the end away from eachother

very tragic

[eternal sundial]

i did skip>frank

but we clear rest tmr

[clever belfry]

and even with this

during sweep u press MS > cleave, or

[eternal sundial]

i mean its 4

[sullen dove]

idk i just dont

but prolly can

[clever belfry]

i think u should

cause 4

[sullen dove]

4

[eternal sundial]

7

[clever belfry]

seven

i played long sweep

cause im stubid

[eternal sundial]

idk i dont rlly care much anymore

[sullen dove]

honestly felt like i couldve hit a mil dps if the boss died like 30 seconds sooner

[eternal sundial]

motivation is dried up

[clever belfry]

i dont really care but funny spec funny spec

[sullen dove]

cuz i was holding onto it for a long time

then started falling by the end

[clever belfry]

noober only has 522 box

NOOOOOOOOB

[eternal sundial]

bro its so bad im doing remix rn

[clever belfry]

LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

[sullen dove]

[clever belfry]

i forgot to equip sark cloak

xdd

the classique

gotta make a WA that reminds me in raid, thoughts

also gotta make a WA that /w people whenever i steal stats fro mthem

[eternal sundial]

i have that for s3 set lmao

[sullen dove]

alternative: just never unequip it

thoughts?

[eternal sundial]

i think

bad

noober

522 box opinion

[sullen dove]

perish

[clever belfry]

yeah 522 box opinion

2nd class citizen

doesnt even have a vote

[sullen dove]

not my fault

game bad

[eternal sundial]

ur going tmr right

[sullen dove]

surely 528 box does 50k more dps for me

also only 522 oce still.. big bullion next week

[clever belfry]

already cast my vote m8

in my city there is a guy called Christopher Pratt up for vote

i was VERY close to vote for him for the meme

[sullen dove]

😭

[clever belfry]

but he is Freie Wähler and fuck them

[sullen dove]

chris pratt when terrible human being

[eternal sundial]

💌 ?

[clever belfry]

ofc

[eternal sundial]

idk im just rawdogging it tmr

walkin there is fine 🛏️

[clever belfry]

i wasnt asked to do counting this time luckily

last time we did municipality i did the cringe A3 one

that was

SO ASS

[eternal sundial]

counting is math and i dont like math

[clever belfry]

i was reading out

and someone else put it into the pc

[eternal sundial]

annoying

[signal locust]

Why is Chris Pratt a terrible human being?

[clever belfry]

No ones saying that

[oblique trail]

They are

[hardy cargo]

my guess it its bc of him tearing down that one house to build a mansion

but like if he owns the property who gives a fuck

[clever belfry]

banezi show more meow

[signal locust]

You can easily scroll up and see it

[oblique trail]

I'm no longer at my dads

Only had that 1 picture

[clever belfry]

sad.. hope u gave cat a good bellyrub

[oblique trail]

many attention was given to it

[clever belfry]

Very cool

[sullen dove]

he like divorced his wife cause their kid had some kinda disability

that was the gist as i understood it at least

[gleaming siren]

what is that

Im washed wcyd

Actually factually ultra washed

[sullen dove]

all specs on the rainbow

[gleaming siren]

Only spec I get funny Golden parse on is Aff because I'm one of 2 people that play it 😔

[sullen dove]

:3

[indigo geode]

Does fury get a better rage dump?

Slam is so boring/butt

[modest condor]

yes, rampage

[indigo geode]

So I remove smash for rampage when I get it seeing as I seem to get rage very fucking quickly

[modest condor]

yes

[indigo geode]

Slam is weak and doesnt use the rage quick enough lmao

[modest condor]

you dont even press slam

it's weaker than whirlwind

[indigo geode]

Thats what I did. I just took slam off my bar

i raging blow and blood thirst on cd and spam whirlwind otherwise

[sullen dove]

are you like... level 30?

u get rampage rly early

and its #1 damaging ability for fury

[indigo geode]

So Another thing I was wondering. storm of swords and anni. Are they good at any point? Removing raging blow as an button and making whirlwind hit harder and give a CD time to make use of the auto attack swings ofr meat cleaver and imrpoved whirlwind sounds good

[indigo geode]

24 atm. Leveling up on remix.

[sullen dove]

it was only good last season when you wanted to hit bloodthirst/bloodbath a lot

without a tierset to buff it/make you want to use it no both are horrible

ok yea that makes sense then

just get rampage then u actually can spend rage on stuff

also what does auto attack swings of meatcleaver mean

your melees dont cleave

its only abilities

[indigo geode]

Ooooh I thought it was an auto ability

I misread

[sullen dove]

na when you whirlwind, next 4 single target abilities cleave

thats like rampage, raging blow, bloodthirst, execute etc

[indigo geode]

So basically just... Spam raging blow/blood thirst/whirlwind
Then when I can press raging blow

[sullen dove]

hit rampage the second its available, if u dont have rampage spam raging blow until u run out of charges

if u need more rage then u can hit bloodthirst

ww you would only really want to hit if you are in AOE or you can't hit any other button

ww like lowest priority on single target

so like ramp > execute > raging blow > bloodthirst > whirlwind is the order of precedence

at a very basic lvl in single target

eventually u get onslaught and that also slots in there but not much worth worrying about it currently

but if u are in aoe you want to hit ww more often to make sure u cleave your single target

so like "4 abilities > whirlwind > 4 abilities > whirlwind" etc

once u can get those talents

dont think u have enough points at lvl 24

[indigo geode]

Also why they gotta nerf us like this in remix. LMAO

[upbeat sentinel]

Because primary stat comes mostly from weapon at low level

Letting us have double the STR of arms or whatever would be strong af

[indigo geode]

Is there a weak aura tracker btw perhaps for the meat cleaver buff or what ever to monitor how many ST attacks I have left on it?

Or maybe just a way to make whirlwind have a "proc glow" on it, when I dont have the meatcleaver/improved ww buff?

Something just obv to notice

[hardy cargo]

theres a bunch on wago

its also pretty easy to make yourself

might even be in the templates section

[indigo geode]

I know like ive made a few before on my monk to tell me say when I have my instant vivifys up or when upwelling is ready, etc.

[ornate bolt]

i just specced fury and now i am hearing a lightning sound effect every time i engage a mob. what is this from? i can't pin it down

[indigo geode]

Are you on remix? It could just be a sound of one of your pristmatic gems procing

because im not hearing ligtning atm on mine

[compact knot]

weakaura? addon?

i wouldnt know tbh i play with sound turned off fully lmao

[ornate bolt]

oh apparently it was a weakaura. gg

[indigo geode]

Ooooh yeah just hit 35 and I put talents in and got rampage. Such a huge single target power spike

Not sure why my brother was complaining about the strenght loss in remix

[unreal onyx]

if I'd get leggo dropped now in S4

would it be awakened already?

[oblique trail]

no

still need to spend 2 bullions for it

[unreal onyx]

ouch

[indigo geode]

I only want fyrath for the transmog honestly lmao

[gleaming tulip]

What buff do you guys usually take in AA?

[indigo geode]

I love how fast im swinging my massive 2 handers in remix lmao

My haste is reaching like 80% solo atm

[young swan]

vers

[obtuse steeple]

@oblique trail ya benzai if someone divorce in denmark does he have to pay half his income to the wife and the kid or not always this is true ?

[oblique trail]

Good question that I don't know why I should know the answer to, but presumably no

[young swan]

world renowned danish divorce court lawyer beznai

[covert blaze]

Raven are you planning on abandoning your family in Denmark

[tough ether]

hello again! what does it mean for a cr wrist to "catastrophically fail"?

[tender seal]

There is no such thing as having to pay half your income to wife and kid(or kids) in Denmark.

[obtuse steeple]

i heard law is always with women , you have to pay her half your income or somehow something around that as compensation

[tender seal]

Not true in Denmark 🙂

[obtuse steeple]

not really but she took my daughter 3 years old and run away . i'm afraid she open a case against me and ask for divorce providing fake documents or she may shed some tears to the judge and he will believe her

[modest condor]

🙄

[obtuse steeple]

i like the similar similarity in the similation of Silmarlien

[tender seal]

@obtuse steeple check ur dm

[modest condor]

dont take him serious

[tender seal]

fr?

[modest condor]

yes

nothing he says is serious

[tender seal]

[tardy lark]

Some would call him a ronin @tender seal

[tender seal]

baited

[tardy lark]

But divorce laws are pretty decent in Denmark except for custody

[obtuse steeple]

man i meant it it happened to me

ya Kong why you deleted your help

not in denmark but a similar land

i just want to know the denmarkiean law

[tender seal]

bru dm me but dont waste my time if you are trolling

[obtuse steeple]

THANK YOU BOY WHAT A PROJECTOR ARE YOU TRYING TO MANIUPLATE PEOPLE TO DO YOUR COMMAND > HAVE U MASTERED THE DARK IMPATH RULE OF THIS UNIVERSE TO CONTROL PEOPLE

poggy

ya kong it happened to me but not in denmark i don't wanna waste ur time that is why i asked

because we are a family here as a warriors

[oblique trail]

[covert blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

[upbeat sentinel]

Seek help

[obtuse steeple]

🙂 reverse psychology you should seek it , i am fine bro .

[hasty path]

THANK YOU BOY WHAT A PROJECTOR ARE YOU TRYING TO MANIUPLATE PEOPLE TO DO YOUR COMMAND > HAVE U MASTERED THE DARK IMPATH RULE OF THIS UNIVERSE TO CONTROL PEOPLE

[covert blaze]

@hasty path ya nish ya nish ya nish ya thief you play monk behind our back ya snitch

[indigo geode]

Nice. Got the WW WA set up

I remembered how to do the weak aura proc glowing

[unreal onyx]

proc?

what "procs" ww

[indigo geode]

I just have it set to glow if I dont have Improved WW/Meat Cleaver active.

[unreal onyx]

ahh ok that makes more sense

I just use stock luxthos WA that has the 4 bars that show me the mc stacks

[indigo geode]

Basically this way I just hit it if its glowing to maintain IWW/MC stacks

[chrome plover]

2 bloodthirsts and 2 rampages

[unreal onyx]

bt on the left is the ka-ching WA

ramp on top is the wa from our korean friend that shows if ramp would be up with the next autoattack hit

[unreal onyx]

so I don't "waste" a gcd on rb

[chrome plover]

I put those inside my luxthos pack

🤓

[unreal onyx]

idk how to do that

so I don't bother

the most I mod on my WAs is the positioning of them

[chrome plover]

i never tried korean man one tbf

[unreal onyx]

I like it

in S3 it was somewhat useless

[sullen dove]

since when is this what the niuzao cape looks like

[unreal onyx]

but now with AM again it's somewhat useful again imo

[sullen dove]

when i get it from the armoire its like a giant ox head that like moves

never seen that

[edgy widget]

p sure the tank cloak effect always looked like that

screenshot from mop

[south kayak]

He got a screenshot from mop ready

💀

[sullen dove]

the hell is this then

this toy that ive seen the other 3 cape effect wings on normally

it shows some translucent niuzao that looks like that

[south kayak]

That looks weird

[sullen dove]

instead of the horned backpack

i dont remember it being orange in fairness

[chrome plover]

[south kayak]

Why is it showing on top of you

[upbeat sentinel]

Reverse, forward, sideways, any psychologist would be good 4 u

[indigo geode]

Would I pop recklessness and avatar at the same time since they are both big burst phase cds?

[eternal sundial]

yes

their durations add up too

[heady saffron]

from having the actual cloak on, never seen that one before lol

[indigo geode]

So I can macro them to pop at the same time then

Makes my life easier. Nice.

The less buttons I need to hit, the better.

Niiiice I can use ravagar at the sae time as recklessness

so basically pop ravager for big damage and rage gen
Which also pops recklnessness for more rage gen and crits
Which also pops Avatar for 20% more damage

one thing I know from watching baj, warrior has alot of warrior burst button combos for 1 shots and other things

[hardy cargo]

dunno if you care to min max or not, but it is actually better to have them separate, because ravager has a slight delay in when it does its damage from when you press it. Again very min max idea

the only way you can 100% optimally macro ur cds as fury is to specifically bake recklessness into avatar so that when you are pressing both of them on a trash pull you only need to press avatar

but again its super min max so play however u want 🙂

[indigo geode]

I dont think that level of min max is enough to prevent me from shitting on dungeons and raids. So eh

I'll keep playing around with it

I just wanna unga of the bungas

Like I just macro my paladins wings into m judgement so I never have to press wings. Lmao. If its up, judgement activates it

as far as I can tell, has never impacted my dps any doing things like this

[fallen geode]

how much do the lesser tokens help with the lego dropping

[indigo geode]

will the pity tokens for it last into tww I wonder

Because I wanna farm it next exp

[dense elbow]

if so, dont forget to to bind /charge to it after reck as well, for max ungabunga zugzug nobrainer

Bing base charge with hamstring, pummel and heroic throw, oh the options, the options!

[indigo geode]

I wanna press buttons and not think

esp on remix

[dense elbow]

Warrior is the correct fit for you, pure zugzug, hf!

[covert blaze]

What if wings comes off CD in the last 5 seconds of a pack

[indigo geode]

Then so be it.

FISH

[dense elbow]

why would wings not be linked to FR? As they got the same CD

Just use the 1 button macro, for the whole Ret burst rotation

[foggy pond]

Can I get someone to help me xfer gems to my timerunning alt (NA, Horde)

[indigo geode]

FR?

Final Reckoning?

[wild mural]

Are we paladinos now

[gaunt moat]

fury warrior is the hub where we know everything about every other classes 🤙

[wild mural]

Cause fury is just ramp ramp ramp ramp?

[gaunt moat]

Cause our brains are ginamosorus

gigantomorfis

[wild mural]

Hmmm
Yes

Sure

[gaunt moat]

ginemenesaurus

[wild mural]

I’m arm

💪

[gaunt moat]

you're still welcome i'd say 🦧

[wild mural]

Arm 💪💪

[covert blaze]

hi syi

[chrome plover]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/148898695696482305/1087463012690042931/1077940323650641971.gif

[fallen geode]

do people even use Iced Phial of Corrupting Rage for keys as fury or is it not worth

and only good for arms

[hardy cargo]

you can use it if youd like

[sullen dove]

i mean still generally more dam but def more troll to use the higher key u go

for like +10s and shit its plenty fine unless u think youre dying too much

[covert blaze]

it's more damage (but it can kill you ofc)

[dapper goblet]

👨‍🦼

[sullen dove]

👨‍🦽

[covert blaze]

🫃

[sullen dove]

[covert blaze]

@fallen geode i would just use it if you know you're not gonna die

[fallen geode]

ill take it not having lego feels like im doing no damage

def feel like once i get the legendary ill have alot more survivability

im doing around 56% of my own healing rn

broodkeepers is only 18%

[neat gazelle]

my friend just came back to wow and he bought 2 ashkandur how cooked is he?

[upbeat sentinel]

Is Elemental mastery just straight worthless above 100%

[sullen dove]

nah...

[sullen dove]

??????????

HUH?

wrong game

but also just have 1k EM on nahida and kazuha w

[upbeat sentinel]

not wrong game just wrong discord

ele sham

im not in shamy disc

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/skull-explode-gif-25528415

das funny

yea elemental mastery is a genshin stat too

[covert blaze]

[dapper goblet]

👨‍🦼

[sudden tusk]

wonka

[covert blaze]

[still swift]

gachabrained people

[upbeat sentinel]

Watching people ask for a fuckin Barbarian class

ITS JUST FURY WITH NO ARMOR

[covert blaze]

how can you even make a barbarian different than warrior

lol

[upbeat sentinel]

Literally just leather armor instead

Bard is the only generic class we could rly get at this point

[edgy widget]

Tinker, it's been requested for decades!

[covert blaze]

tinker always sounded like shit to me ngl

[covert blaze]

make a samurai class like ff14

[edgy widget]

no way, it'd be sick

• tank that uses a shredder mech and steam as a resource
• ranged that uses guns and bombs, empower hold to cast to scale the area/damage

[covert blaze]

maybe

[edgy widget]

it's one of the few ideas I like the empower hold to cast for - the longer you hold, the larger the bomb radius gets, but the lower its damage, so you can scale up it or down from a pinpoint high explosive to a large but weaker mass AoE

[heady saffron]

surely dh will get a 3rd spec in the future

[covert blaze]

dh ranged dps spec when

[lavish beacon]

Wouldn’t it be the other way around, holding it longer, it should provide more damage, since you’re losing out on globals. I would like to it go from a bigger radius to a smaller, so you get bigger damage on a smaller radius, making it harder but better reward?

[edgy widget]

Hitting more targets is also more damage

[lavish beacon]

I guess we aren’t talking about split damage then?

[edgy widget]

Most class abilities don’t deal split damage the way trinkets and such do

[lavish beacon]

The tech is there, surely they could implement it.
Imagine holding your Bladestorm, the longer you hold the longer you spin

[flat river]

Big

[flat river]

TODAY IS MY LAST EXAM WISH ME LUCK

[clever belfry]

its sunday??

[faint whale]

what subject?

[flat river]

HR i just finished

It was easy

[flat river]

Real i will run with them today

[flat river]

Or do u mean as in its a weekend

Cause in egypt weekends are Friday Saturday

[dark frost]

Inquisitor

[clever belfry]

illegal

[dark frost]

I think itd be cool to give warrior like a berserker class from warcraft 3

Axe throwing

Midrange like a evoker/ret paladin

[flat river]

Its called outlaw

[dark frost]

Fair

Real

And true

[flat river]

https://tenor.com/view/real-and-true-cat-walking-gray-cat-gif-14865986020845776272

[dark frost]

Outlaw really is just a better fury

[foggy pond]

What is the easiest M+ dungeon for getting started

[unreal onyx]

timer-wise AV

[foggy pond]

mm I just mean mechanics wise honestly

So basically my friends and I tried M+ in Ruby Life Pools and couldn't even get passed first boss. We're all ilvl ~485

[sand crest]

algethar is pretty easy on a +2 if you're starting out

but wether its that or another dungeon make sure to read up on boss mechanics before heading into it

[muted path]

Sorry to ask this, but can someone give me an idea for a "recommended" build for fury in remix? I'm looking at the guides on wowhead and they both seem to be based of tier bonuses that I obviously cant get.

[sand crest]

there should be a remix cheat sheet section on the fury guide on wowhead

[muted path]

I've never played fury before, so I don't know how to start cooking my own

I figured that was just for leveling.

[foggy pond]

In Remix you can just go at it with whatever

[sand crest]

I think that section has one talent page for leveling/dungeons and one for raid

[foggy pond]

and it'll pretty much work

There are only very specific builds for remix on some classes. I don't think warrior has any super specific choices that make it much better than just using the normal build

[muted path]

alrighty, cool. I just wanted to make sure there wasn't something that i needed to pair up that i might miss

thanks

[foggy pond]

np

[sand crest]

what will up your dmg more on remix is to follow the tinker socket trends rather than the specific tinker sockets on the guide

like using lifesotrm/searing light but idk if that was nerfed

[muted path]

oh yeah, for sure. I've been playing arms and prot the whole time, just looking to switch to fury to change things up a bit

[foggy pond]

@muted path are you on NA or EU?

[muted path]

NA

[foggy pond]

Would you mind helping me xfer some gems to my alt real quick?

[muted path]

i can do that

[gleaming siren]

no

[clever belfry]

meow

[gleaming siren]

:3

[oblique trail]

2x10 pull soon™️

[clever belfry]

TWO X???

[oblique trail]

TWO

One event one standard

[clever belfry]

holy shit dood!!!

[oblique trail]

Diversity

[clever belfry]

time to 💳 and do 300 pulls

thoughts

[oblique trail]

Since you're offering sure I'll do it

[left perch]

guys please stop playing gacha and eating credit card

[clever belfry]

i will not stop

but i also dont 💳

[sullen dove]

bonzai will surely stream these immaculate pulls

[clever belfry]

for me he will yes

😎

[sullen dove]

tf

[clever belfry]

americans

[sullen dove]

perish perhaps

[clever belfry]

hmm

dont think i will

[royal plover]

When haste start dropping down in value?

[modest condor]

when your top gear sim makes you equip items with different stats on them

[clever belfry]

🤖 op

[gleaming siren]

eats your credit card

what are you gonna do

[light stump]

How difficult is mythic amirdrassil (non-awakened) at the moment? Would it be comparable to awakened heroic? Or more difficult?

[gleaming siren]

Mechanically more difficult

damage intake and damage required wise pretty similar I'd say

[light stump]

I think the 20 people requirement will be the killer though

Was going to attempt with some guildies for axe, but we won't be 20 and I doublt pugs will make it work

[left perch]

if you don’t give it back I will DM a mod to see if they will abuse power on you

[jovial coral]

@oblique trail what can I do to improve my gameplay

[modest condor]

uninstall

[warm crag]

@oblique trail

[clever path]

I over timed a 7 by like 20 mins, all good bro

[clever belfry]

@oblique trail

[oblique trail]

@jovial coral you are lost I can not help you

@warm crag

@clever belfry

[gleaming siren]

@oblique trail

@warm crag

How is prog going

[warm crag]

Shit

we have 40 minutes left lmao

[gleaming siren]

last pull magic

I believe

[warm crag]

WE DID IT

HAHAHAHAHAH

[clever belfry]

2 ez

[gleaming siren]

I told you

[upbeat sentinel]

They're removing all the "increased melee range" talents

WE WILL NO LONGER BE GIMPED IN COMPARISON

[edgy widget]

nice joke

[barren dagger]

rets on suicide watch

[cursive fulcrum]

my warri switches mid fight automatically from beserker to def stance. is there a option to turn this off?

[gaunt moat]

???

[chrome plover]

it's not automatic

so either you are misclicking a keybind or you are forgetting to switch back

[meager void]

don't joke with my feelings on a sunday morning

[cursive fulcrum]

i'll check that out. thank you

[gaunt moat]

well that's actually true tho

[meager void]

Wait what?! They actually removing the extra melee range from the others?

[gaunt moat]

https://www.wowhead.com/fr/news/druid-class-changes-and-developer-notes-reducing-melee-range-talents-across-game-338886

[meager void]

I need a link yo rub it on the face off all my guildies

[gaunt moat]

that's from april

[meager void]

I had thought it a meme, awesome thx

[dapper goblet]

👨‍🦼

[unreal onyx]

👨‍🦽

[left perch]

damn xeos has the sport model he gonna lap lolxd

[foggy pond]

Thank god

No more feral cranking 90s when I miss my charge stun

[rotund ginkgo]

rasz kill

most likely horrible log

lets inspect

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1036769769543704576.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[unreal onyx]

44

mid

I hope we can kill it tomorrow too

then im only missing rasz for portal

[upbeat sentinel]

Have they explained why feral specifically keeps it

[unreal onyx]

feral down bad

[upbeat sentinel]

Make em more down bad

Fuck em

[barren dagger]

i never had a feral in a key

for prolly 2 seasons

[unreal onyx]

I think I had like 2

in very low keys

[upbeat sentinel]

Boomy is the better spec

[tulip swallow]

feral is cool, fuck rogues though

[upbeat sentinel]

Rogue but for furries

[barren dagger]

i never invite rogues

dont see the point

[clever path]

hey question can aonly look at this https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/1a1Lj3C9oGrzPAmy62g5K2 im simming torc of the passed with blue silk linning against a 515 champion item and removing the rousing shadowflame. but it says im loosing like 3k dps 😮

[clever path]

ah i see thx. how much should i aim to set it?

only have 1 atm

[unreal onyx]

i set mine to 65%

that seems to be the avg in my keys

[clever path]

okey thx 🙂

[acoustic furnace]

Feral is one of those specs where the people playing it are either absolutely batshit insane and could solo the dungeon or they have no idea how to play the class and complain about how "blizzard abandoned the spec".

There is no in between.

[unreal onyx]

just like fury

[acoustic furnace]

Had a guy doing like 170k overall in raid and complained about how bad the class was. He absolutely refused to accept it when I suggested that just maybe he wasn't very good at it.

[barren dagger]

isn't it quite hard to play?

[acoustic furnace]

Nah fury is cracked they just have fuck all for utility and it really shows in highwr keys

[modest condor]

no the reason fury is bad in high keys is the lack of dps

why bring fury who does 600k overall when you can bring spriest who does 1.5mil overall

[acoustic furnace]

Yeah there's a lot of things that you have to track to play optimally. I'd wager it's probably the hardest in WoW to really pump on. Everyone says it's arcane but arcane is actually very scripted and therefore punishes even small mistakes.

But it isn't hard.

[unreal onyx]

I was more refering to blizz abandoning fury

[acoustic furnace]

Because woyers in general have big D energy

Healer is oom and you're half dead? Charge into a frontal like a real g.

[acoustic furnace]

Nah man fury abandoned itself when people voted for S2 set instead of the glory of S3 (RIP my juicy BB crits)

[modest condor]

xd

[unreal onyx]

real

[modest condor]

imagine if we had another season of s3 tier

we would be down bad even more

[acoustic furnace]

Nah I'm a certified S3 enjoyer

Giga crits on smolderon and gnarlroot will forever hold a place in my heart

[modest condor]

ok but the price is a shit playstyle in m+

and no dps outside of cooldowns

[acoustic furnace]

CDs, Ramp, BB, ramp, BB, whirlwind

Rinse repeat

Yeah it was a bit dull

[unreal onyx]

you had at least OF up in basically all packs

also S2 fuck horrid in raid

[acoustic furnace]

It's aight on council bosses at least 😄

[unreal onyx]

damn so we're good on 7% of of overall bosses in S4

worst boss I played with S2 so far was tindral

[acoustic furnace]

Yeeeaaahhh there's a reason I ditched warrior for S4 it's l rough and I don't like playing arms

[mossy fox]

is tindral actually bad with s2

i felt pretty good with it the 2 kills i played it so far

not as good as s3 ofc but it's definitely way smoother than arms on that boss, and boss dam is still fine

[violet trail]

S2 fury is honestly worse feeling than S3

"b-but raging blow" Raging blow is just slam with another flavour.

[mossy fox]

couldn't care less about raging blow vs bt

[unreal onyx]

ye I never plaed arms in DF

but it was a significant downgrade to S3

[mossy fox]

s3 was pretty much made for tindral tho

[unreal onyx]

and lineups didn't fit for me aswell too good

but we also kinda freestyled it

[mossy fox]

i mostly sent on cd

i found that i did need to hold reck rav for 2nd roots in p1

other than that it was just send on cd for the most part

[unreal onyx]

yea I also held for avatar proc in p1

then also sent

mostly felt bad bc there was barely any padding on roots

and fury in ST is bad

[acoustic furnace]

I feel it's more of a "fury went from pretty good in all content to dogshit (compared to other classes) in anything with less than 5 targets" kind of issue.

[fading sky]

i mean

as long as we as class has 1 good dps spec

[acoustic furnace]

Nah that's not okay at all

[fading sky]

yeah it is

Fury is still good

where it matters

fyrakk - nelt - sark - raza

like

keys

if its not good on the meme bosses i mean who cares

[acoustic furnace]

"B-b-but arms is good!" Is the worst excuse ever. And in what world does fury beat arms on any of those bosses?

Sure it can pad harder but boss dps is shit in comparison

[barren dagger]

any fury warriors here?

i cant tell

[fading sky]

in mythic raiding it aint padding

[acoustic furnace]

How much damage is on the actual boss

[fading sky]

shit needs to die

[barren dagger]

bro

rasz has no pad

wtf

[fading sky]

adds in intermission are ROUGH

like

they need to die asap, and fury is god tier at that

same with fyrakk adds, now as a reclear its prob more "pad"

but fury deals great ST while doing great aoe

even in so2 gear

just more on adds less in st

now i also prefered season3 set by far as fury, but saying fury is bad is just totally wrong

[acoustic furnace]

Saying fury is good is totally wrong

[fading sky]

it is though ?

[barren dagger]

we had this conversation many times

[fading sky]

like

[acoustic furnace]

Fury is aight

[fading sky]

fury is good

and very flexible

[acoustic furnace]

It's a no from me dawg maybe it's a me issue but S2 fury is shit and I will never play it

Cannot for the life of me understand people glazing it while other classes just do everything better

[young swan]

fury is good

arms is betetr

therefore fury is not good

[barren dagger]

other classes are also better than arms

its the way it is

[acoustic furnace]

Yeah but gotta have a warrior

[barren dagger]

you mean in raid?

[acoustic furnace]

Yep

[barren dagger]

what about when fury was better than arms?

[young swan]

what about it

[barren dagger]

exactly

[young swan]

it was like that every tier for prog this xpac

and in the case of amirdrassil fury was better for farm too

[barren dagger]

im saying it's natural to have one spec better than the other in a type of content

we shouldn't complain about that

warrior as a whole is blasting

[young swan]

yeah warrior is very well off atm

anyone who thinks otherwise frankly isnt thinking very hard

[acoustic furnace]

Prot warrior is genuinely insane I'll admit that but fury is wack and arms is janky (does pump tho)

[young swan]

yeah i mean ur dumb if u think fury is bad

unless if your exact definition of bad is "worse than arms"

[acoustic furnace]

I literally said it isn't bad

[young swan]

u just said its wack

[acoustic furnace]

I said it's aight

[young swan]

yeah but its not mid

its good

like its actually just good

[acoustic furnace]

Wack as in a shit playstyle

Good aoe

[young swan]

those are two different conversations

[acoustic furnace]

Trolling to use it in ST over arms though

[young swan]

yeah but not really because s4 is a joke and doesnt actually matter

[acoustic furnace]

Those are two different conversations

[young swan]

not really, its only trolling if playing the other spec would actually change the outcome

but it doesnt

cause the content is a joke

[unreal onyx]

depends how good you are at either

i know fury, but if you'd throw me into arms now I'd be horrid

[barren dagger]

it's only trolling if you try and prog and one spec is way better than the other

[acoustic furnace]

Arms is way better on most bosses

[barren dagger]

a good fury will still clap an average player of other classes, even on ST

[young swan]

doesnt matter because the content isnt competitive anymore

[acoustic furnace]

Reductive and senseless reasoning in a discussion on class balance

"hurr durr s4 don't matter so don't talk about it"

[young swan]

i mean class balance barely has a hold on what you should play regardless of meme s4 season

its always been "play whichever you enjoy more" because for the vast majority it literally just doesnt make a difference

but it doubly doesnt matter now because the content is 10% easier at a baseline AND everyone is way more powerful than when they did it initially

[acoustic furnace]

Difficulty of content doesn't change anything about balance between specs. So once again, respectfully, that is reductive and contributes nothing to the discussion.

[young swan]

except it literally does

[unreal onyx]

in my old old casual 5/9M guild in SoD I was forced to play arms otherwise they'd bench me (the only woyer)

[acoustic furnace]

That's just dumb tho

Let's ditch a crucial buff to min max lol

[barren dagger]

nah if arms was better then it makes sense

[young swan]

difficulty of content decides what classes and specs you bring; if the content isnt difficult, it doesnt matter which spec you bring

[barren dagger]

if you are progging and playing something suboptimal, you better be wayyyy better at that spec

[acoustic furnace]

So we're saying what we think about specs and how they compare to each other. Your input equates to "Game easy who cares". It's true yes, but has literally nothing to do with how they size up to each other. So no, it is not really relevant to the discussion.

[young swan]

okay how about this then

[barren dagger]

by this logic we should have all classes the exact same

no?

why does arms deal more damage in ST?

why does arms have a higher target cap?

[young swan]

the % difference between arms and fury in a sim stack is ~5%

literally just get lucky and u outperform the average arms performance

thats enough to not matter

thats also not taking into account variance from arms

[barren dagger]

crit %

is huge

on MS

so yeah can vary a lot

[acoustic furnace]

See THIS is valid and contributes to the discussion. I disagree with you still because people aren't robots and nobody can play perfect like sims want but now we're getting somewhere.

[young swan]

okay but the robot argument applies to both specs

so its irrelevant

you can just get lucky and outperform arms

also, when both specs are simming top 6 in the game

it really doesnt matter which one you pick

citing raid statistics is silly because most good players will naturally gravitate towards the better spec leaving a smaller pool of good players still playing fury so naturally its representation is worse

[dapper goblet]

👨‍🦼

[acoustic furnace]

Ya got me Xan

Can't argue with that

Still think fury is shit tho

[young swan]

yeah i dont particularly like the playstyle in ST

its fun for aoe and m+ tho

not that ive played retail recently

[acoustic furnace]

Oh God has MoP claimed another victim? That shit murdered my guild until TWW

[young swan]

no i just havent been playing wow

outside of beta

played mop for like the first week or 2 but they demonstrated they could only make bad change upon bad change

[unreal onyx]

I can't even get myself to get the last 50 io for 3k

[severe pine]

Whirlwind

I'm not an expert, but I believe so. I don't think we ever use slam currently.

If we do, I've been fucking up.

[unreal onyx]

should be a very rare occasion but if you have literally nothing to press (not even BT, semi-buffed or unbuffed) you use ww

[gilded pawn]

If you are hurt may as well press victory over ww

[compact knot]

heroic razsageth is my favorite boss in the entire expansion maybe

[unreal onyx]

uhm, ackchually

the 4 ww hits do more dmg than 1 VR hit

[gilded pawn]

mb

but hps parse

[compact knot]

i press VR over WW all the time

because 2x blue silken linen uptime is way more important than the 300 dps you gain from WW on st

heroic razsageth man

so much fun

[unreal onyx]

just don't drop under 90%?

[open prairie]

@covert blaze i have witnessed a new low in this game

dh that dies to falling damage

[covert blaze]

lol

what dungeon even

[covert blaze]

when did warrior get vengeful retreat?

[open prairie]

sennarth

[covert blaze]

how

[open prairie]

[covert blaze]

just knocked off?

[open prairie]

i imagine dashed slid

no i saw his body take falling damage

so it wasnt a fall off death

[covert blaze]

i dashed on my evoker on sennarth the other day, first time doing the boss on that class

i dashed like 100 miles

didnt die tho but it was a jumpscare

[open prairie]

dashing on sennarth makes you fly

[clever belfry]

ah the momentum bug

a classic

[open prairie]

i managed to dash off platform

stuck on a lil rock

double jumped back on

[covert blaze]

my favourite fel rush bug is when you dash into a random 1 cm elevation on the ground and it just dc's you instantly

[open prairie]

Isn’t that warden or something

heard if you jump dash the d/c rate is higher

[covert blaze]

wym warden

[open prairie]

blizz’s anticheat

[covert blaze]

oh i never knew the name

yeah i think when fel rush fucks up the game thinks youre speedhacking or something

[clever belfry]

Bro try s1 SL hunter

[open prairie]

If you get rooted like mid jump dash it’d happen

[clever belfry]

you would get dcd in about 1/20 disengages in the open world

it was BAD

[tidal kindle]

Anyone who watches how meta evolves during key pushing progression knows this is true

"Hey now it's not so much about infinite dps, we need something that can live these damage patterns"
Or
"Hey we need something that can beat this damage check"

[young swan]

[lone zinc]

[hard widget]

Im waiting for the day its "hey now we need a reflect here to time the keys"

[open prairie]

so prot warrior meta

[hard widget]

Ehhh i highly doubt that

[open prairie]

not with vdh in its current state

[cunning flare]

s2 TGP Nelth Lair

[hard widget]

Dk is looking very solid too tbh

[open prairie]

well vdh enables caster comps

with its 5 aoe stops

[hard widget]

Looks like the dungeons we are getting are somewhat favoured towards tanks able to get things gathered up nicely

[warm crag]

[hard widget]

Or well some of em

[open prairie]

mass grip has always been strong in 5 mans

and vdh chains has like non existent range

[hard widget]

VDH has silence sigils to group as well

[young swan]

they just need to nuke double sigil

[hard widget]

I agree with the Frenchman

[left perch]

blasphemy

it’s a talent you don’t even take in raid, not that big of a deal

[marble pilot]

Anyone know if you can do the normal raid achievements on heroic for the MoP remix amulet? I need 2 more but it is way easier to find heroic carries instead of normal.

[willow cradle]

Should be yeah

At least it is on retail

[marble pilot]

Thanks. Failed 2 normal throne of thunder. But the heroic groups often have super carries in them making em easier lol

[tidal kindle]

Aug roar still extend sigil effects?

[young swan]

no idea

[hard widget]

yes

[tidal kindle]

[solemn plover]

[dapper goblet]

👨‍🦼

[ocean laurel]

When you all do M+ what trinket combo do you all prefer?

[meager void]

well, BSL gambling is going byebye as a man is going to offspec prot for a bit.

[storm rune]

Honestly BSL not terrible for prot

[gilded pawn]

prot war prob best tank for it

but its a lot of hassle for whats likely going to be a dps neutral endeavor

[meager void]

(might have also gotten tired of babysitting 90% health)

[left perch]

do you actually babysit it?

man idk I’ve ever watched my health bar like that. Use defensives and check uptime at end, usually it’s fine

[oblique trail]

My uptime whenever I've ran prot keys was unironically very good

If you're good at the spec though, you can prob guarantee high uptime at high keys as well, depending on the dung

[compact knot]

if you play the immortal spec on the wowhead for prot war your have like 90% uptime istg

brand is also insanely strong for prot

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/BdhDmNpY6Q4b7zAc#fight=17&type=damage-done&source=2

70% uptime on BSL, 93% uptime on brand, brand is pretty good in every dungeon this season too.

im not very good at prot id say but still owned

[final birch]

+8 is not a very good metric in my opinion especially on tanks

you quite literally dont take any damage

[gilded pawn]

Also brand has 100% uptime always

Whether you have 100% uptime at a high stack is another question

[gilded pawn]

You spend most of your time at sub 5 stacks

Brand seems really bad

[compact knot]

that is definetly not true

lmao

did you even check how much damage brand did in that dungeon

[compact knot]

when it falls down that is when its at max stacks

then the time a new bar appears at 15 stacks is when im out of combat

the only time i wasnt at 15 stacks was the start of the dungeon and end of the dungeon

its good for boss damage and prio damage, and great in dungeons where you can have 100% uptime on it, which there is 2 dungeons with 100% uptime and 3 dungeons where itll fall off once or twice, then 3 others where id say its pretty bad

[clever belfry]

anvil does essentially the same, but with more leeway

[unreal onyx]

Brand uptime ≠ worthy uptime

[clever path]

hey again. if i wanna use 2 of this item do i still set the same uptime just i get double buff or how does it work? 🙂

[chrome plover]

same uptime but double the mastery

it is only active whilst you are above 90% health

[clever path]

okey thx 🙂

[chrome plover]

+1 i dont look at my health more than i would without bsl

and i had 70% uptime over 27 mythic raz wipes last night

[clever path]

though im alrdy at 66% mastery with it so at 20% penalty

so i guess i dont rly wanna get more 🙂

[chrome plover]

dw about the penalties, mastery can still be good, you should sim it with 50% uptime vs the other options

and tbh 50% is kinda low but it's a 'safe' uptime to sim at

[clever path]

okey someone said the other day to sim at 65% my stats are atm with crit flask 42% crit 34% haste and 20% vers with having the allied wrist. 🙂

but thinking about going human also im orc atm then i get 2% of all the secondary stats also 🙂

[chrome plover]

you shouldnt really think about stat percentages at all, the sim will do all of the work for you

sometimes it is worth going into diminishing returns quite significantly

and sometimes it isnt

[clever path]

okey 🙂 it simmed 2.2k dps increase to remove the allied bracers for another bsl 🙂

[chrome plover]

yeah it's pretty close, I might switch to 2x bsl this week but bsl + allied bracers is still really good

[clever path]

okey thx for help 🙂

[chrome plover]

np

[unreal onyx]

Im bracer + 1x bsl gaming, the bracers are just a safe bet that don’t rely on anything

Sim dps and actual use case are 2 diff things

(Thats also why I catalyzed my sark cloak)

[chrome plover]

I want a sark cloak to catalyse

[clever belfry]

consider jsut getting it next week?

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yeah that is the plan

but maybe I dont catalyse it hehe

bsl uptime on raz prog yday

warrior stays winning

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bro is on fury

get a grip

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im having FUN

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lol

fun

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Get real

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this is wow

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Have you tried looting it?

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havent killed the boss yet 💀

next week though fr

[unreal onyx]

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gg

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Where‘s the fury comparison

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tanking is NOT real man

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we were giga progging it defo dies

boss is easy

[unreal onyx]

Prog

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yeah

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Or reprog

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reprog for me and 1 other person

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think in week 4 it took us 5 pulls (?) with like half the raid never having pulled boss

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prog for 18 people

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absolute fucking joke

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guild is reformed some people havent raided since bfa

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Aberrus is the easiest raid out of the 3

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for sure

but there is 3

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I hope we kill rasz today

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I was hoping for that

my logs page woulda looked so good

i got top 10 on every boss with all stars