fury

[tardy lark]

8

[flat river]

windrunner 20?

[clever belfry]

dont they raid like 800h

[flat river]

would u rather

pizza

or burger

or kebab

[rotund ginkgo]

idk what that means

borgir

idk

:3

ty bud ❤️

[flat river]

burgir UwU

[rotund ginkgo]

btw crit said u can hit me up with ur ASS discord

[flat river]

what?

[clever belfry]

ASS hasn't been updated i dont think

[flat river]

wa

[rotund ginkgo]

i think they 4day and 3day on farm but thats waaaay too much investment for me

splits/alts etc

[clever belfry]

on farm

[rotund ginkgo]

im a 2day kinda guy

yeah 3day on farm is insane

[clever belfry]

its about prog my guy

[rotund ginkgo]

they sell boosts etc

[flat river]

what is ASS

[rotund ginkgo]

if they 3day ON FARM u can only imagine what prog looks like

[clever belfry]

any more than 2d on farm is insane

[rotund ginkgo]

bruh

[clever belfry]

we did 2d in pieces even

[rotund ginkgo]

yeah

[tardy lark]

Ass needs some updates since Ppaww and I started using GitHub instead, but some of the sim strings are still useful @rotund ginkgo

Gimme a sec

[flat river]

WHAT IS ASS

[rotund ginkgo]

yeah would just like to feel participated :3

❤️

[summer quail]

assassination rogue

[clever belfry]

i need the github

[rotund ginkgo]

real mutou

[flat river]

https://tenor.com/view/red-hair-cat-watching-surprised-gif-317525808660355276

plz

i need to know

[tardy lark]

Lemme find, but I’m on phone

[clever belfry]

no hurry

[flat river]

ok ignore me :(

[rotund ginkgo]

:3

[tardy lark]

I prefer to

[clever belfry]

king response

i was just gonna ignore it

[tardy lark]

👑

[fathom cipher]

Is there a recommended talent set for if you don't have the set bonus?

[clever belfry]

just play same

U could swap cshb and bloodborne for mass and AJ on aoe but it does not really matter

[ember apex]

u guys saw that mop remix fury is nerfed by cloak?

[karmic matrix]

yeee i just found out in heart of fear lmao

[ember apex]

its a pure dps gain for everyone else is it not? Does any other spec lose main stat besides fury warrior?

[karmic matrix]

just gunna play arms

[ember apex]

i know 2 other fury mains that are doing that

i went rogue

is there any word on a fix regarding this from blizz?

main stat was literally red unless i took off cloak

and i couldnt find any other cloak besides that one

[upbeat sentinel]

Don’t use Titans Grip until you have a lot of threads

Once all the stats are giga boosted the wep damage is gonna be pretty worth IMO

[ember apex]

ok well i actually deleted my warrior and made a rogue

i thought it was broken and i didnt want to get frustrated by no fix

[sullen basin]

/cast [@player] Oblivion Sphere

dont need to do item slot just the spell name

item slot doesnt count as enchanted so cant "use" the head

[marble pilot]

Nice I might try it out.

[somber elk]

Does smf feel better?

[edgy widget]

Arms feels better 🙃

[tardy lark]

[upbeat sentinel]

Both feel like shit until like 33

[ember apex]

i heard max level once u have good amounts of haste and mastery to compensate for the large mainstat nerf

the mainstat nerf only gets larger over time right?

the more u level the more strength that is subtracted?

[upbeat sentinel]

It scales with either level or ilvl (probably of the cloak) IDK which one

But when leveling the weps are the primary source of mainstat so allowing fury double that would’ve made them crazy as fuck

[ember apex]

so at level 30 the cloak is taking away more strength than it did at level 10 i imagine

[upbeat sentinel]

Yes

The only reason fury feels better then is you get rampage and WW online

So you can actually do things

[ember apex]

i deleted it at like level 20 or something

i couldnt fix the strength nerf w/ cloak equipped

the only fix is taking off cloak

[upbeat sentinel]

Leveling alts won’t be v hard at all once you get all the cloak achievements and they start with 900000 threads at level 10

So can always make a fury again later

[ember apex]

yeah im leveling a rogue now

such a tragedy i was looking forward to doing fury

[upbeat sentinel]

Think the top achieve is something stupid like 2400 threads

IIRC

But I don’t know if the higher level threads, which grant more stat per thread, count as multiple for the achievement or just one

If multiple it should be pretty easy

[somber elk]

Just feels Like rampage does no dmg

[eternal sundial]

2100

[eternal sundial]

Play arms lmao

Ms mob dies

[sullen basin]

hmm

[upbeat sentinel]

Also y’all need to be trying to do N raids on lockout every day

[eternal sundial]

BIS is 30% movespeed hunter passive IMO

[upbeat sentinel]

Mogushan gives you +72% bonus xp on the cloak every time you do it

[eternal sundial]

I fullcleared on ptr at 45 or so should be free at 70

[upbeat sentinel]

Bosses on N always drop big XP thread counts idk if it did that on PTR

Also hopefully they drop anything but XP at max lmao

[zinc bridge]

so fury is garbage then?

[sullen basin]

yes fury is garbahe

[eternal sundial]

I mean im level 67

[sullen basin]

nice programming Mr Blizzard

why is a passive a fucking button

[young swan]

yeah unfortunately scaling for max level characters is just giga fucked

probably still pretty free but shit just randomly one shots u

[zinc bridge]

even at max level?

[sullen basin]

idk im level 30

31

[upbeat sentinel]

You don’t have aoe tools yet

Yeah leveling as fury sucks nuts before ww

[sullen basin]

2 to go

im playing arms til i get meat cleaver

maybe longer

playing arms til smf is viable (stronger than TG)

[young swan]

i think fury might unironically be the worst leveling spec in the game

[upbeat sentinel]

Also arms is better p much the whole way

[upbeat sentinel]

Only because healer specs deal fucking giga damage for no reason

Otherwise they would suck worse

[young swan]

so my point stands

[zinc bridge]

starting to think someone at blizzard hates fury

[upbeat sentinel]

They just like arms and can’t let both be good

[chrome plover]

we got a buff in retail this patch so clearly not

[upbeat sentinel]

You understand why we got that buff right

[chrome plover]

No

[buoyant salmon]

whirlwind is tuned to buff ur spells but u cant even do that until like 20 something

and you cant generate enough rage to keep up enrage

[sullen basin]

that has been true since 2004

[upbeat sentinel]

Because we were pretty fuckin awful before it and even post-buff our new tier isnt exactly a huge buff in raid

[buoyant salmon]

and tou dont even get rampage until 20 something anyway

[young swan]

cant think of a another spec that has to talent into their main spender + is locked out if it until level 27

[upbeat sentinel]

Do we even have a spender for the first 10 levels

[buoyant salmon]

spam

slam

[buoyant salmon]

not true

[upbeat sentinel]

Oh right. Wow that feels awful.

[south kayak]

this boss in Heart of Fear has a raid wide ticking rot damage that basically deals 30% of our hp per second lmao, you can't kill this guy

[buoyant salmon]

i remember u could just throw on crusader boes and obliterate an entire dungeon whirlwinding

foryears straight

crusader boas

[chrome plover]

ok survival hunters old tier set is FAR better than their new one in aoe and they got ignored in the patch notes, at least fury was about equal

and they’re still the worst dps spec in the game

If blizzard hates fury then

[sullen basin]

survivals old one is better in aoe is it not? both aoe and single target

[buoyant salmon]

idk if survival has literally ever been a balanced spec

[sullen basin]

gf plays it and wont stfu about how much worse she has it than me

[chrome plover]

that’s what I said

[chrome plover]

she’s right

[sullen basin]

you said old is far worse

[chrome plover]

she should play mm it’s turbo fun

[south kayak]

Well, she is right lmao

[sullen basin]

she dont like it

melee fan, only likes ww monk, surv hunt and ret pala

clicker so cant play havoc/fury which would be more fun

[chrome plover]

I’m a melee fan but mm is giga fun

[sullen basin]

mm is probably playable for a clicker too tbh

not as much as bm

[chrome plover]

teach her to use keyboard so she can enjoy more of the game

[buoyant salmon]

tell her to keybind her spells

[sullen basin]

arthritis issue

not a skill one

[buoyant salmon]

figure it out

[chrome plover]

mmo mouse?

[sullen basin]

she got one and uses maybe a few buttons

[buoyant salmon]

bro arthritis seems like the fucking worst

[sullen basin]

it helps but you can only do so much with physical disability

[buoyant salmon]

my mom has it and sometimes just screams in pain looking at her hand

[sullen basin]

yeah i be getting rsi and carpal tunnel symptoms constantly id still take that over it

[chrome plover]

what about controller

[buoyant salmon]

its not a vibe

[chrome plover]

controller got way more support in df

surely anything is better than clicking

[sullen basin]

controller probably takes way more getting used to than just playing a fun spec that is playable as a clicker

[buoyant salmon]

cope

[chrome plover]

Should still play mm

2 button spec

do a million dps on council np

[upbeat sentinel]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/35/#aggregate=amount

[south kayak]

Yo Chawi

you playing remix?

[upbeat sentinel]

I would not describe either of us as well loved

[chrome plover]

I would describe survival as significantly more hated than any other spec

[buoyant salmon]

fury is completely fine rn

[chrome plover]

14 hour work event today

maybe tomorrow

[south kayak]

[left perch]

they name is short for @sullen basin Deez?

[covert blaze]

What's a "survival" hunter?

[buoyant salmon]

fury does good stuff and prio damage while losing basically no st for full aoe

[south kayak]

he survives buffs

[left perch]

[buoyant salmon]

bruh

[chrome plover]

fury owns

[buoyant salmon]

the only thing fury really sucks at is consistent low target cleave which is ironic as fuck

[somber elk]

I am but its Boring

[buoyant salmon]

yawn

[covert blaze]

"full aoe" hehe

[buoyant salmon]

?

[sullen basin]

Yeah I started shadowlands in prepatch as a tauren warr named Bovadiz

So I'm just known as bova to a lotta people now

besides my new guild

just did a sim of my gfs surv hunter vs the "bis" gear from wowhead (same ilvl as those slots) including max ilvl season 4 set and its 44k less in aoe
she plays cdless - coordinated so it shouldnt matter what tiers on
thank god blizzard doesnt hate us this much

we ball

[flat river]

remove charge CD

change my mind

and heroic leap has 3 charges

[flat river]

big

[sullen basin]

2x 2h with 100 str each i lose 89 str

i still have 11 more str than using 2 1handers so unless we have the talent point to use SMF i dont think its gonna be better than TG

nobody raiding?

12 more actually must be 88.something bc i gain 12 str adding second 2h

[covert blaze]

something something this spec is target capped

[sullen basin]

this is good for level 31 right

[covert blaze]

bro who cares lmaoooo

[sullen basin]

joe biden

[barren dagger]

[upbeat willow]

how good is Cataclysmic Signet Brand for M+? Sims good for me but I dont see any top warriors use it

[covert blaze]

signet brand oversims because you are hitting multiple targets for a long period of time and never dropping the stacks, which is not something you do in practice

you shouldn't sim for aoe imo cause you get misled like this

downtime will make you drop your stacks

and stuff doesn't live long enough to make it worth it

you could make it work but you need to be permanently pulling and doing some cringe stuff to basically never drop combat

[upbeat sentinel]

Do you need strats for N Mogushan

or just form up 2/2/6 and smash face

gonna assume 2/2/6 smash face

[dapper goblet]

welcome back

[sullen basin]

do the lfr bosses not award the 12% bonus xp, only normal?

[tardy lark]

Hastecake magically disappeared though

[dapper goblet]

weird name..

[upbeat sentinel]

Only N to my knowledge

and i found the answer to my question

N is faceroll

first boss hardest pepega

[fallen geode]

How many bullians is out rn 4 or 6?

[hardy cargo]

depends on if you did the mythic dungeon weekly quest

I think last week

if you didnt, then you have 4 (2 purchases) right now

[left perch]

beans and peds back on the menu confirmed?

[upbeat sentinel]

beans and what now

[fallen geode]

So it's 6 if you did

[sullen basin]

yes

[sullen basin]

is that like a furry feet thing or something

[left perch]

Performance enhancing dr*gs

he likes to take them and lift big

steroids and testosterone or whatever lifters do idk

[sullen basin]

yeah idk either

[upbeat sentinel]

130% bonus XP

lets go

[kind bolt]

guys is quick strike good

for pandaland

[upbeat sentinel]

yes

run autoattack build + quick strike = goat

[sullen basin]

damn im only at like 37

%

[flat river]

hi guys

[clever belfry]

https://soundcloud.com/user-328957512/gpf-broccoli-fuck-kimmercores-rimmercore-piep-fark-remix-vieze-asbam-481-bpm-a-saus-666-edit

[tardy lark]

Ofc it wasn’t just a sentence you made up

The internet is amazing

[sullen basin]

any of you know where the fuck i can find a bank half my bag is unique tinkers that are useless and id rather put them in storage so i dont get them again

[oblique trail]

There are bankers in the top right for Alliance, or top left for Horde, in their respective Shrines in Vale of Eternal Blossoms

[tardy lark]

@oblique trail how long do I need to play pandamix to get warrior stuff

[sullen basin]

only in vale?

[oblique trail]

I only know of the Vale bankers

[sullen basin]

i havent been there yet hope the place is accessible

[oblique trail]

Idk you can get gems very quickly

Had basically all by lvl 40-45, but I spent all my bronze just buying them basically

[tardy lark]

I meant cosmetics n shit

[hardy cargo]

u mean the trading post recolor or

[oblique trail]

oh

[hardy cargo]

a long time lol

[oblique trail]

That's gonna take a while

[tardy lark]

I don’t want everything

Just plate stuff

[oblique trail]

Will still take a while

[tardy lark]

kms

[oblique trail]

Some sets take 4-5k bronze, if not more

And unless there are ways to giga farm it at max, it'll take hours to get a set at that price

[hardy cargo]

the raid sets are 4-5k per like banezi said and theres one for each difficulty

[tardy lark]

Didn’t someone say you get like 30-40k just from lvling

I don’t want stuff I can just farm in retail though

[oblique trail]

The trading post recolours are very cheap

[tardy lark]

Giga

[oblique trail]

3-4k per ensemble

And there aren't a lot

[tardy lark]

Are mounts giga expensive

[oblique trail]

They ramp quickly

World boss/rare mounts are 38k

[hardy cargo]

some of them are, but thats made up of entirely exisiting mounts

[kind bolt]

ye boi

[oblique trail]

Meanwhile random rep mounts are 2k

[hardy cargo]

the shit specific to remix shit are anywhere from 2k-6.6k

[tardy lark]

I have most of the pandaland mounts. Just want galeon and sha mount

If that’s possible

[oblique trail]

Ye you can buy those

[hardy cargo]

77k bronze but yeah u can

[tardy lark]

Is there some daily stuff I can do?

Time is kinda spent with exams and puppy

[hardy cargo]

ive not done any norm raids yet, but wach lfr wing gives 400 bronze, so I presume higher raid difficulties give more

and also hopeful that at lvl 70 bronze is increased

[tardy lark]

400 bronze and stuff at almost 40k is uh

Rough

[oblique trail]

I've prob gotten roughly like

18k~

[sullen basin]

found a shrine
found a horde npc
died

there's more than one?

[oblique trail]

While leveling up to 57

I've just spammed quests from 20 till 57

[sullen basin]

yeah im not fucking ressing for 5 more minutes

[tardy lark]

Deapairge

[willow cradle]

Made 28k so far but I did clear all the lfr bosses

[oblique trail]

Yeah there are two shrines

[sullen basin]

ive had 10-15k so far between lfr and questing

[oblique trail]

One for Horde one for Ally

[sullen basin]

i only know one shrine bc i used to play horde til mixed-guilds

[hardy cargo]

I think with everything ive spent at lvl 67 im @ around 30k

[tardy lark]

Is the stuff cross faction btw

[sullen basin]

flight shoulda told me

[oblique trail]

ye

[tardy lark]

Thank god

[sullen basin]

in general yes but you still die if you go to horde npcs

[tardy lark]

Do I go ret pal or monk

[fleet sorrel]

I made a monk

[sullen basin]

just dumped tinkers only got 1 slot left need to buy bags

[tardy lark]

Gotta copy Vil, so monk it is

[sullen basin]

dont have room for useless cogs

freed a lotta space though big and real

foiund the bag guy

[fast crest]

anyone have experience with the spiteful storm trinket

seems pretty terrible and might even start getting worse as a fight goes beyond a certain length

[hardy cargo]

it ramps so the opposite

[fast crest]

but the stacks needed to trigger keep increasing too

[hardy cargo]

only time I used it was start of patch when I looted hc version day 1 and equipped it for the ilvl with main stat

did better than I thought in keys

but at this point you should have much better

[fast crest]

i just got one from HC today and gave it a spin

[hardy cargo]

it was doing like 2% of my dam in keys

which not too bad for the circumstance in which I put it on

[unreal onyx]

blasphemy

[barren dagger]

hips looking wide

[willow cradle]

Weird but okay

[sturdy wagon]

Nerfed Reckless Abandon feels so bad outside S3 set, geez.

[olive wraith]

When was it nerfed

[hardy cargo]

I think hes just refering to the change of 1 stronger, empowered ability from 2 empowered bt/rb

which wasnt a nerf, but ig can be perceived as one

[chrome plover]

fuck ra

[hardy cargo]

real

[sturdy wagon]

I'm just really noticing it leveling in MoP Remix

As the last time I pressed RB/CB was season 2

[modest condor]

dude fury leveling is not ok

the spec is just not functional until lvl 27

[frank dawn]

Next alpha build gonna be our big rework for sure

[hardy cargo]

yeah its really bad

like the worst ive ever seen

every single spell we have is just in the tree

and rampage being halfway down is fucking horrible its not even worth spending rage u just sit on 100 until you finally get it

[eternal sundial]

yepp

YOU WILL SLAAAAAAAAAAAM

also no 2h cuz fuck u xdd

[hardy cargo]

slam is not worth to press

LOL

it does less dam than ww

or at least, did at lower levels

[eternal sundial]

wouldnt know

[hardy cargo]

also my theory of 1 2h and 1 1hr gives me = str to 2 2h so I guess offhand hits lose dam so its worse for now

[fervent wind]

BT felt really good to get

[rotund ginkgo]

feelsgood

[red berry]

i got a chest with leech earlier this week and made it tier

honestly even just getting 3% alone made me heal so much more in keys

would prefer avoidance but leech is nice

[hardy cargo]

warrior can use the kor kron shaman armor from remix POG

[rotund ginkgo]

aye we take those

[wild mica]

with all the crazy shit in remix they drew the line at titans grip? wtf is this debuff

[eternal sundial]

ye it looks sick

helm especially

[eternal sundial]

who cares

just smf

[hardy cargo]

I enjoy the shado pan stuff more, but it just adds more stuff to collect which is nice

[unreal onyx]

are heroic scenarios at lvl 42 supposed to be basically impossible in the dungeon finder?

[wild mica]

you're supposed to go in with a full group for heroic scenarios

[eternal sundial]

it turbo rails the tanks ye

[wild mica]

it wasnt so bad when i did them

[unreal onyx]

you guys have tanks?

I was arms, had a mage and a resto

[fervent wind]

Is TG debuff enough to make SMF come out on top?

I legit played SMF back in MoP and it was legit

[hardy cargo]

smf I lose a bunch of str going from TG or 1 2hr/ 1 1hr

[unreal onyx]

I just play arms levelling

feels weird having staves as regular weaps

[fervent wind]

I’m a fury simp and have been for years at this point

[chrome plover]

that was the last time it was a real build right?

[fervent wind]

Think so

[sturdy wagon]

Yes, I leveled as Fury, it was annoying not having Rampage until 27 >_< lol

[fervent wind]

Leveling is such a joke it doesn’t matter

[chrome plover]

I didn’t play warrior back then but someone in my guild was diehard smf

[fervent wind]

I was mythic raiding in SoO on my fury pre and post patch

It felt like godmode

[chrome plover]

I was a bear

vengeance abusing

that felt like god mode

In soo gear with 90% crit

[sturdy wagon]

Even with Fury being kinda goofy to level, MoP Remix leveling is fun. All the little powers, and the ability to customize your secondary stats, etc

[left perch]

double leap is so back

[kind bolt]

righteus frenzy procs from bloodthirsts thats kinda nuts no?

[rotund ginkgo]

diabolical gameplay

timing uld15
Pala dies

we finish key

"sry for shit game"

and leaves

real

he died on fuckin dwarves

KEK

[covert blaze]

Did you not time

I'm confused

[rotund ginkgo]

we did

pala was just dog

we timed with 1min spare

when paladin died on dwarf boss + tank died on totem boss and we had to reset

[flat river]

is there any bronze farming spots

[rotund ginkgo]

ive been doing alright lately with keys

legit timed every key ive done last 2 days

[covert blaze]

How did he die on dwarves

On a ranged class

You gotta try really hard to get frontaled or step on the jump

[modest condor]

"omg im doing so much damage"

[hardy cargo]

kekw

[covert blaze]

BFA havoc breakdown

[hardy cargo]

[covert blaze]

slay 💅

[hardy cargo]

💅

silm equip 1 2h wep and 1 1h wep and play that like a true king

[barren dagger]

annulet on roids

[modest condor]

i have been doing that whenever it gave me the highest eapon dps

[hardy cargo]

at lvl 67 I have equal str to titans grip, so I lose offhand hit damage but if higher ilvl 1hr its worth to actually equip

[hasty path]

Slay queen

You’re serving

[hardy cargo]

[flat river]

slay UwU

what is slay btw

[summer quail]

you either slay or you don't

💅

[hasty path]

Slay. You know.

kill, murder, dispatch, execute, annihilate, eliminate, terminate, butcher, decimate, destroy, exterminate, massacre, obliterate, slaughter, wipe out, liquidate, neutralize, take down, put to death, snuff out, finish off, do in, cut down, mow down, off, waste, bump off, take out, send to the grave, eradicate, extirpate, vanquish, defeat, conquer, crush, subdue, overthrow, trounce, beat, outclass, best, trample, overpower, overwhelm, thrash, wallop.

[karmic matrix]

Is mop remix lockout like mythic lockout? I can't join a dif group on the same boss?

[hardy cargo]

do damage to mop below 10% hp and it pop for big dam

[modest condor]

yes

[karmic matrix]

damn rough

[willow patrol]

so if i understood the new fury rotation right, i should aim for enough stacks

Im sitting at 27 % base crit, so i need to get +68 % crit from the tier set?

it feels like i end up using blood bath so much less that it kinda seems to be a dps loss because fillers are shit

i got that WA thats dynamic, and it seems to be much less than i expected

[summer quail]

if you run RA with the new set you're doing something wrong

[willow patrol]

RA?

i didnt do fury in this season yet so im just rerolling

[frank dawn]

Reckless Abandon. Don’t use it

[willow patrol]

ah

[frank dawn]

If you were

[willow patrol]

i just use the wowhead talents lol

guess ill check murlok out

[frank dawn]

Make sure you’re using the season 4 build. Wow head talents are correct

[willow patrol]

yeah

i am

oh wtf

somethings been wrong in my simming and stuff

[sour nymph]

Any recs?

[meager void]

For AoE you sim patchwerk 5t 5min

Remove buffs you dont get in m+

Since I pug a lot, I only leave bshout on

[willow patrol]

i just realised that my taletns messed up

so now im in a totally different situation lol

[meager void]

There's a case for simming 5t 3min for burst potential, but its niche and probably only useful at max ilvl

[summer quail]

just 1 target 5m patchwerk in m+ build. fury uses the same buttons in st and aoe, only difference is pressing whirlwind every 5 globals on more than 1 target

[sour nymph]

Awesome, really appreciate it - thanks!

[willow patrol]

are ravager and recklessness always synced with this build? seems like the talents i see says it both goes together

[eternal sundial]

synced yes

[willow patrol]

so i can macro ravager to cast on myself and then put another thing at ravager button?

trying to figure out where to place my new onslaught button lol

[sick viper]

Bro ret fucks so hard

it's like annihilator on steroids

[sour nymph]

I do a castsequence w/ ravager mouseover

but yeah that works too

[sweet vessel]

Mouseover?
You mean [@cursor] or am I missing something here?
AFAIK Ravager is ground targeted no?

[sweet vessel]

Well, I suppose yes.
I use [@player]
I do think Recklessness is not on the GCD, so you can merge those two into one button I suppose.

[olive wraith]

I would def suggest doing @cursor

[willow patrol]

cool, yeah, i think mouseover is technically better, but i also feel like i lose track of my mouse too much and i wont pop recklessness before i reach the place i am going to slam recklessness at as well

i miss odyns fury

[meager void]

Ravager @player stan

[sweet vessel]

I'm not a pro player in any stretch of the imagination.
But I can definitely see the use in having it [@cursor]...I prefer to chuck it at my on feet though, most of the time I'm at the mob I want to attack anyway (I macro charge and recklessness together....And then with my other attacks also, though that risks wasting it at the end of a fight.)

[meager void]

But @cursor is def the pro move

I macro charge and impending victory together, surprisingly versatile

[hardy cargo]

cursor is def best

[left perch]

I am still kinda shocked why more people don’t just modify reticles

@player default, shift = @cursor

just have both

[frank dawn]

som warriors might be real upset about that if we could read

[meager void]

Now that's an idea I already use in something else and just realized makes sense for this

[upbeat sentinel]

Remix starts hurting p bad above level 60

[sweet vessel]

I have to remember that when the server comes back up....
I know it's probably badwrongdumb of me, but I macro Impending victory, bitter immunity, and enraged regeneration on one button and send all of that when I'm dying 😆

[modest condor]

because my default ravager bind already uses alt

[left perch]

Well you can’t argue with muscle memory

[pseudo galleon]

how are we standing now, or should i get ready to swap

[left perch]

I got lucky and Put it on R

[modest condor]

R is spear/roar

[hardy cargo]

no r for reck

[meager void]

Kekw. Been there. Bitter immunity is kinda overkill tbh but there's not much else to get on ST S4 spec

[left perch]

I do my 45 ish on R and F; and 2 min things on D and E

for all my classes so, I’m locked

muscle cannot think

For change

[meager void]

It can be both. Ive got an alt+3 keybind on a macro that also uses combat pot with shift modifier

You keybind alt+key and shift inside the macro as modifier

[sweet vessel]

True, if I had Stoneform I would probably not bother picking it up.
But as a DID I usually blow my racial along with avatar.

[modest condor]

no shot im making a shift+alt keybind

[left perch]

tbh I don’t event use alt or ctrl

[modest condor]

at that point you're just asking for finger pain

[left perch]

shift or I don’t bind it

alt keys are for like raid leaders and world marker chads

[modest condor]

my thumb rests on alt

shift is hella uncomfortable to reach

[left perch]

fair, my pink just kinda sits on shift now that I have a claw

[meager void]

I used to work with huge excel spreadsheets so ctrl, alt, etc is like a second nature

[sweet vessel]

I use 1-4 and mousewheel up/down for my primary spells
Then shift+1-4 and mousewheel up/down for secondary spells. (shift being one of the thumb buttons on my cheapo mouse)
Then I go to alt for the low priority stuff.

[willow patrol]

i need to get back to using my scrollwheel again... i used it for sweep in tbc on my ferals lol

or whatever the crap that aoe attack is

[meager void]

Its actually quite surprising how my keybinds are so similar to og excel shortcuts.

Never thought of it lol

hey, one knowledge check, AA buff of choice is Vers for furry, right?

[hardy cargo]

yes

[summer quail]

Vers for most classes i think. There are specs like spriest that gets crazy benefit from mastery

[meager void]

cool, yeah the vers scaling is way too good to pass.

[modest condor]

idk about furry but for fury it's vers yeah

[fluid cedar]

which talent point build will give me the highest WTLPS?

[left perch]

what even is wtlps

is that a bait

[karmic matrix]

bro the scaling post 65 in mop is wild..

[buoyant salmon]

wdym just pinky iy

it

[frank dawn]

does anyone know my character randomly turns invisible on the first pull in brackenhide, it happens like 1 out of 5 times

[clever path]

It's pretty bad

You want your defensives to be usable when you need them, not thrown out all at once

[covert blaze]

what

???

[sweet vessel]

Yep I know.
But I'm old and slow, and have some fierce ADD.
I need to limit how many buttons I have at any given time.
But usually Impending victory keeps me going, so rebinding that to charge does good to separate them a bit

[summer quail]

pinky on shift, very comfortable

[clever path]

We refer to this as skill issue

you can fix this

[wanton mirage]

how does the world boss lock out in mop remix ? is it daily or weekly?

[restive peak]

I have IV bound to charge, you'd have to pretty dog at the game to not be able to condense that comfortably lolwut

Like how bad do you have to be to spam charge so much that you accidentally IV lol

Oh just saw he has all 3 there LOL

[hardy cargo]

or instead

you be a chad

and bind meerahs jukebox into charge

and press it throughout every fight randomly to piss your raid off

and then have iv on separate button

[dense elbow]

Charge+hamstring, pummel+heroic throw, uhm, think that is basically it

Warrior need more off GCD abilities, so we can bind them around and everywhere

[sour nymph]

Try the addon "Mouse Sonar" - helps a lot with that. I had the same problem

I think I'm in love https://raider.io/characters/us/ragnaros/Killxot?season=season-df-4

fire gimmick war... soooo hot

[random raptor]

Does the rate of bronze we get in mop remix eventually get a lot higher?

[young swan]

running the raids gets you a lot

[hardy cargo]

^

[young swan]

and they're on a daily lockout

[hardy cargo]

if u do the valley of the 4 winds meta achieve u get a lil backpack witha chicken on it

[edgy widget]

yeah all the zone achieves give something special

[hardy cargo]

im rlly excited for the dread wastes one

[edgy widget]

also the landfall campaign unlocks (the ability to buy) a new coloration of the class-restricted trading post set

[edgy widget]

btw if you wanna have fun in raids, Strom'kar (arms artifact) tmog fears troll bosses 🙃

[young swan]

lmfao

thats good

i just got hard walled on dark anime

logging off for the night after that

[edgy widget]

I think this is the first time its been relevant since the artifact was introduced in Legion lol

[young swan]

good lord that boss is ass

[edgy widget]

Yeah a lot of bosses are fubar atm

and scaling is beyond fucked

and upgrade costs are insane

they gotta adjust a lot of things

[young swan]

yeah upgrade costs are so disgusting

[south kayak]

I hear scaling is bad as fuck

[young swan]

its horrid

at least until u start getting actual big gear

[south kayak]

Above 60 you get stomped by anything

[young swan]

but thats impossible cause upgrade costs are ridiculous

[south kayak]

I guess I’ll wait until they fix this to play more

[young swan]

im just gonna level another dude

while i wait

[south kayak]

Im 42 rn

[young swan]

my kitten is 70

[south kayak]

Nice

[young swan]

time to level spriest

[south kayak]

You can’t do anything right

On kitten

Until fix

[young swan]

i can clear the raids

but not gonna spend bronze until they say something about cost

[south kayak]

You can still spam stuff like dailies since cloak is infinite

To get stronger

[south kayak]

Heroic?

[young swan]

normal

not playing mop remix for prog

[south kayak]

[south kayak]

Why spriest

[bitter mortar]

Does anyone know if there exists a weak aura for timerunners advantage that I can use to have the stat buffs on my screen at all times?

[cedar kraken]

Is using 2 2h's even worth it in remix?

[south kayak]

-800 str

[bitter mortar]

Yes, in remix a lot of stats are directly on your weapons and not elsewhere, so having 2 2h's would be a large buff

Even with that, a fury warrior still has a lot more stats than anyone else

The stam and haste part is odd but I'm still using blue/green weapons, so idk if later items will make up for it, as it stands atm, they do not

But the str part is fine 👍

[cedar kraken]

just feels crappy to look at lol

[bitter mortar]

Yeah

[oblique raft]

[south kayak]

[hardy cargo]

titans grip and 1h offhand are equal str values at lvl 70

at least up to 364 ilvl

[oblique raft]

I can't wait to be disappoint again at War WithIn

[frank wolf]

Azerite in tww pls

[hardy cargo]

thats a great mindset to have about it

[frank wolf]

also covenants

[south kayak]

Poggers

I wasn’t disappointed with DF, and TWW is looking even more exciting and better, so I’m sure as hell not gonna be disappointed

[frank wolf]

I was getting bored within the first month of the seasons

[buoyant salmon]

bro doing a heroinc dungeon

in pandaland

with people that have no idea what they are doing is the most boring content ever

just fighting bosses for like 4 minutes in a heroic dungeon

[hardy cargo]

u do the raids with ppl who have no idea what theyre doing either

[buoyant salmon]

only level 30 so i just did vaults

bro i got onetapped as prot on one of the bosses

i think the council boss

i just charged and immediately died lol

[south kayak]

Scaling is fucked bro

[young swan]

voidweaver looks cool

[buoyant salmon]

true but these 2 dps were just actually not using their spells

[south kayak]

I already have a spriest at 518

[young swan]

think my warrior is 515

[south kayak]

I went void elf this patch too

[young swan]

s4 bad

[buoyant salmon]

son of rat bro

[frank wolf]

Im gonna level a monk

[south kayak]

voidweaver owns

[frank wolf]

Dont have monk at 70

[south kayak]

Me neither

that's why I am leveling a monk

I'm gonna wait a bit until they fix the scaling

[south kayak]

really? i'm having fun

[frank wolf]

S4 is kinda fun, but bad because less ppl than s1-s3

And healer deficit

[jovial summit]

does everything hit like a truck at 70 or is it just me

[hardy cargo]

it does

[buoyant salmon]

it does

[south kayak]

Scaling issue

It's not good

[hardy cargo]

tbh just put on shield powers

I can solo zanda warbringers as arms with a bunch of shield powers on

[south kayak]

Devs saw PTR getting stomped by everyone and went overboard with the buffs

[jovial summit]

lol like i pulled 3 of those rats in valley and died to their bleed instantly

[south kayak]

Classic Blizzard

[frank wolf]

Panda remix will last till august?

[south kayak]

yes

[frank wolf]

Nice

[south kayak]

says so

We assume prepatch is in August

After remix ends

[buoyant salmon]

is there m+ in panda

wtf do u even do

[south kayak]

no

[buoyant salmon]

do ur 6 raids everyday

[frank wolf]

Gotta buy myself multi CE copies before tww drops

[buoyant salmon]

on normal heroic 10 and 25 man

very good content

[frank wolf]

So that i could resell for more

[south kayak]

back then u just did raids lol

[frank wolf]

Irl goblin

[south kayak]

raid logging

[buoyant salmon]

why the fuck do ppl care for this shit so much

[south kayak]

cosmetics

tusks

[buoyant salmon]

m+ is the best content in the game and its not close

[young swan]

no reason for me to log in and do content ive already done with 0 change

[hardy cargo]

its mop but not really mop

bc its shithole df talents

[frank wolf]

I have 480ish mounts

[buoyant salmon]

raid is fun when its new and ur with the homies

[hardy cargo]

instead of just

mop

[frank wolf]

My main reason is mounts

[buoyant salmon]

but farm again is kinda yikes

[frank wolf]

32mounts sounds like a steal

[young swan]

theres a feat of strength for mythic garrosh

also get to buy mounts

[buoyant salmon]

well yeah theyre not releasing mop classic during cata classic release

[young swan]

and tusks

pretty epic

[buoyant salmon]

so random shit noone cares about

tusks is overrated

[frank wolf]

Tusks i got <5kills

[buoyant salmon]

just buy murlock suit

[frank wolf]

Dont got mount

[young swan]

disengenous as usual

better than s4

[buoyant salmon]

to be fair the mounts do look pretty cool

[young swan]

at least i get to be overpowered as fuck

[south kayak]

Rat tier takes

[buoyant salmon]

s4 has m+

ratio

[frank wolf]

The golden astral cloud serpent is sick

[young swan]

mickey mouse ball pit mini game ego score game mode

[hardy cargo]

its rlly easy to get too

[young swan]

not real

[frank wolf]

TWW will have some sick mounts

[buoyant salmon]

LMAOOOOOO

[south kayak]

whay

t

[hardy cargo]

yeah and I bet my dad can beat up your dad too spit

[buoyant salmon]

spit on me daddy

mt

[young swan]

the only fun thing about m+ is being able to blast bigger burst without packs insta dying

everything else is bad

[south kayak]

[frank wolf]

My dad works for blizzard and will ban your ass when TWW drops. AND he wont refund the money that you spent on the game.

[young swan]

finally free

[south kayak]

why are you in asmongold's discord

[young swan]

emotes

[south kayak]

based

[hardy cargo]

shitpost in there about how retail is great and watch people spam ping with hate messages

[frank wolf]

I just spread cancer in that channel

[south kayak]

Nobody there plays retail lmao

[jovial summit]

giveaways then perma mute it

[frank wolf]

Worked pretty well so far

[hardy cargo]

the point is they all hate it so by proxy if you like it then they hate you

[sick viper]

retail is for shit eaters

[hardy cargo]

all classic gamers share that mindset too its so funny

[frank wolf]

Yeah cata #1

Arms go brr

[hardy cargo]

I just like both and troll

[south kayak]

help

[hardy cargo]

you arent even trying

where is your solve tracker

and your overlay addon from gathermate

[sick viper]

cata is probably better than retail

[hardy cargo]

and your minimal archaeology

[south kayak]

why would you need to track it

[frank wolf]

Played fury in wrath, now its time for arms both in s4 and cata

And mop

I use restedxp for classic lol

[sick viper]

ff14 is better than retail

[frank wolf]

Ff14 too slow

[hardy cargo]

the gathermate thing tells u exactly where all the spawns are

[sick viper]

quests are actually cool in ff14

[frank wolf]

Basically if u compare ff14 to WoW, ff14 feels like smoking 25 dime bags of bubba kush and then taking a bong rip 5 more times.

Its just too slow

Old man game

[sick viper]

the content is good tho

[frank wolf]

Only good if u want to look at pixelated asian ass models though

[sick viper]

like the only thing to do in retail is m+ and raid

[south kayak]

BS in cata > BS in retail

[south kayak]

wtf \

why did i not know this

[sick viper]

timerunning fucks tho

[young swan]

timerunning fun

free alt leveling too

[sick viper]

plunderstorm fucked too

[buoyant salmon]

leveling is so dogshit in wow

[hardy cargo]

yeah it has a whole overlay that shows the distances too, you have to download some shit from wowhead too I think its pinned in one of the fight club channels

[young swan]

yeah thats why timerunning owns

[buoyant salmon]

the only way to make it not turbo disgusting is to make it insanely fast

who wouldve thought

[young swan]

cause regular leveling is horrid

[hardy cargo]

did u level as fury?

[buoyant salmon]

doesnt matter

[frank wolf]

Juet pay 300k gold and youll be 1-70 in 3hrs

[buoyant salmon]

the concept of leveling in wow sucks

[hardy cargo]

no I just mean

its especially bad

as fury bc of the trees

[frank wolf]

Semi afk

[young swan]

leveling in wow the first time i think is pretty good

[sick viper]

leveling wouldnt be dogshit if the game's quests werent written for fat funko pop lovers

[young swan]

everytime after that is painful tho

[buoyant salmon]

i agree but still

the game is based around max

[young swan]

cause the goal is just get to endgame

[buoyant salmon]

everything is about max

[young swan]

so u dont give a fuck about leveling

[buoyant salmon]

you dont have spells

you dont have key class passives

[frank wolf]

I paid liie 15k gold for 70-80 in wrath dungeon boost

[south kayak]

rends stonks

[sick viper]

endgame gets boring quick tho

[buoyant salmon]

you just attack with a stick

[south kayak]

Whirlwind is bs btw

idk why it shows ww

[frank wolf]

This cata?

[south kayak]

yes

[frank wolf]

Looks similar to wrath details

Just more abilities

[buoyant salmon]

cata

why dont they just bring keystones to classic

[frank wolf]

Would be fun

Ngl

[buoyant salmon]

theres actually nothing to do in the game without them

[hardy cargo]

log into classic and say that in lfg chat

[frank wolf]

No affixes, vanilla m+

[hardy cargo]

its so entertaining

[frank wolf]

I bet in WoD classic m+ will be a thing

Lmao

[sick viper]

m+ is shit content should've stayed in legion

[south kayak]

Cata owns

[south kayak]

[buoyant salmon]

boring bait take

[south kayak]

stop

you are embarassing me infront of the wizards

[buoyant salmon]

not liking m+ is understandable

thinking its shit content is wrong

[south kayak]

it's not

[frank wolf]

M+ is probably best thing they added into the game

Lol

[sick viper]

thats not saying much

[south kayak]

if u dislike m+

you suck

[sick viper]

running the same 8 dungeons so fun

[buoyant salmon]

it’s definitely up there

[buoyant salmon]

as opposed to what

[young swan]

i think m+ is good

but I dont respect it

[buoyant salmon]

running the same raid every week for months

[south kayak]

i don't respect you

[young swan]

thats okay

[frank wolf]

Thats because they shouldnt make m+ drop mythic raid ilvl shit

[buoyant salmon]

i respect you master xan

[south kayak]

that was a lie, I do

[frank wolf]

Should make a seperate ilvl thats between heroic and mythic

[buoyant salmon]

idk the way gear functions now is completely fine

[frank wolf]

Yeah but thing is

U dont need to mythic raid to have the same gear

[buoyant salmon]

ok and

[sick viper]

idk maybe I'd enjoy retail more if I was autistic

[buoyant salmon]

here we go

[hardy cargo]

ngl id be ok with them just having mythic raid drop 100% cosmetic shit and capping gear at heroic level

[frank wolf]

Mythic raids are almost non rewarding

[south kayak]

xan tww is gonna own

not for warriors tho

[buoyant salmon]

idk i think mythic raid being entirely prestige is fine

[sick viper]

some of the mythic raid bosses are cool at least

[buoyant salmon]

or bring the only way to get bis gear is also fine

[sick viper]

ya they should do mythic like ff14 ultimates

completely cosmetic

[graceful bay]

Mythic raids are not rewarding because of how they've been designed since bfa

[buoyant salmon]

what

[frank wolf]

If u compare m+ to mythic raids

Most ppl wont bother gearing with mythic raids and choose m+

Since it gives the same shit

[south kayak]

@hardy cargo what's the name of the addon

[buoyant salmon]

but it doesn’t

ppl do mythic raid for mythic items to push keys

[sick viper]

what's the point of getting gear tho if its worthless after the next patch

[graceful bay]

Most ppl never bothered with mythic

[hardy cargo]

its gathermate2 with some added shit downloaded, like I said I think its pinned in the fight club discord, but I could be wrong

[buoyant salmon]

do you even play wow

[south kayak]

ok I check then

thanks

[buoyant salmon]

or an mmo in general

[frank wolf]

And then m+ items being better than raid items

Or slightly ahead

[sick viper]

like at least mythic has ce and mounts

[graceful bay]

And high lvl m+ is far more challenging than CE.......HoF has the only claim to comparison

[buoyant salmon]

name 3 items

[sick viper]

ya lol

[buoyant salmon]

depends on high level but yes everyone knows the hardest part of raiding is finding 20 likeminded ppl that fan commit to scheduling

[buoyant salmon]

what the fuck are you talking about then

[graceful bay]

High lvl meaning title pushing

[hardy cargo]

this is kinda why I think gear levels cap @ hc and mythic be cosmetic stuff, make gearing a loot pinata then have the hard content there for when done gearing

[sick viper]

I don't understand why mfs do m+ for gear but dont do mythic

[south kayak]

Can't find it

[buoyant salmon]

there’s so many reasons lol

[graceful bay]

Because some ppl don't want to deal with 19 other bafoons

[frank wolf]

Pbox, sandglass, idol, mirror

For trinks atleast

Tier is catalyst anyways

[buoyant salmon]

but like raid trinkets compete

[sick viper]

like what getting m+ titles? thats a pointless ass endeavor for most players lol

[frank wolf]

They do, but whats easier to get?

[buoyant salmon]

anvil oce class trinkets etc

[frank wolf]

Raid gear or m+

[south kayak]

Raid trinkets are better than M+ ones

[buoyant salmon]

???

[south kayak]

as seen from everyone else's bis lists

[frank wolf]

My a small % yes

By

[graceful bay]

Plenty of ppl simply enjoy running dungeons. You are in the minority here bud.

[buoyant salmon]

do you just want mythic raid to drop complete bis for every piece by far

i dont get your point lol

[frank wolf]

Yeah

[buoyant salmon]

okay so you just dont understand the game

[sick viper]

im in the minority as a retail wow player lol

[buoyant salmon]

here we go

[frank wolf]

What is there to understand?

[graceful bay]

Weird take bro

[frank wolf]

Mythic raids are more difficult than a +20

[buoyant salmon]

m+ has more players than raiding

[frank wolf]

Because of that same reason i just said above

[buoyant salmon]

no

its bc its easier

to enter

not bc its easier to fundamentally do

[frank wolf]

Thats what i said

Lol

[graceful bay]

Depends on when that +20 and mythic is done. Also CE is a joke to get

[frank wolf]

Mythic raids harder than m+

[buoyant salmon]

mythic raid is piss easy after 4 weeks into the tier

[hardy cargo]

kk sec

[buoyant salmon]

once u get to nerf 2 shit just dies

[sick viper]

if u can find a guild that isnt special sure

but that's not most mythic guilds lol

[graceful bay]

Bud if you're trying to gatekeep content we'd love to see that HoF achieve dropped

[buoyant salmon]

most wow players suck yes

same for every game

i suck major pp compared to some ppl

[graceful bay]

Otherwise most ppl typing in here have plenty of CEs

[south kayak]

I have one

[sick viper]

CE and HoF aint shit compared to pushing glad

[buoyant salmon]

don’t worry friend i have 2

[graceful bay]

Guilds literally find you if you aren't donkey

[graceful bay]

Oh you're one of those bozos.......nm

[sullen dove]

is roidack roidstack??

the prodigal son???

[buoyant salmon]

they are completely different skillsets

but id generally agree

[sick viper]

pvp is way fuckin harder than pve

[hardy cargo]

@south kayak gathermate2data is the other addon u need

[buoyant salmon]

have you ever seen pikaboo do pve

[sullen dove]

i mean semi similar deal as pve

depends who youre playing with and playing against

[buoyant salmon]

they are basically different games

[sullen dove]

if top pvpers can boost people to glad in like 2 nights

[buoyant salmon]

with the same engine

[sullen dove]

maybe its not that hard

for them at least

[buoyant salmon]

u can boost ppl to title in 2 nights too though

[sullen dove]

yea

i mean same diff rly

[south kayak]

So this one and what's the other one?

[sick viper]

s1 arms ret was pretty much that

[south kayak]

Minimal Archeology?

[hardy cargo]

gathermate2

[sick viper]

keep coping lmfao

[south kayak]

thanks

[graceful bay]

Maybe you need to find a game you enjoy or something dude, idk

[hardy cargo]

minimalarchaeology just lets u solve without opening the archaeology profession tab, also puts survey on double right click, supposedly more shit but I didnt delve thru the settingsd

[sick viper]

Hades 2 is great

[sullen dove]

hadeez nuts

[sick viper]

https://tenor.com/view/gotword-deeznuts-gottem-deez-nuts-gif-4394929

[hardy cargo]

[buoyant salmon]

chat died gn

[sick viper]

balls

[south kayak]

F

[icy panther]

there's nothing to do with sockets you dont need besides just delete em right?

in the wop remix

[south kayak]

I assume you can get these epic items at any level while solving?

huge rng?

[hardy cargo]

no

450

you are warrior right?

[south kayak]

I need to get 450 skill?

[hardy cargo]

yes

[south kayak]

aight bet

[south kayak]

yes

[hardy cargo]

but you

ok so since u are warrior

dont do troll solves

until 450

[south kayak]

well I have to do them

to skill up

[hardy cargo]

no

do

dwarf and nelf

and fossil

go kalimdor