fury

[hardy cargo]

thats my guess

I dunno what the fuck happened lmfao

[sullen basin]

can details even do a real rasz log with the different platforms

[sullen dove]

can prolly see on replay where each of u went

i think details cant see other platform..

not sure doe

maybe thats been changed

used to be a thing at least

[sullen basin]

you probably need like 5 people to upload their own side to get it working

[hardy cargo]

the priest the log claims is pi ing me went same side as me

and all the other priests that were alive at that point were on other side so yeah who knows wth happened

[graceful bay]

weird, crit seems to do perfectly fine playing with his "orangutan" ret buddy.

[runic wraith]

anyone got a good UI they use i find my self staring down at my bars too much

[ember apex]

move them up and resize them

[unreal onyx]

I use luxthos WA without any changes

[dense elbow]

Use WAs to show what is ready, hide the bars themselves

[hardy cargo]

are u a base ui gamer or

[sullen dove]

wait a good warrior can beat a good ret

[runic wraith]

normally base

[sullen dove]

😱

dont tell carlo

[unreal onyx]

I use base UI

but just add luxthos on top

in the middle of my screen

[runic wraith]

in curse forge?

[unreal onyx]

it#s a wa

[sullen basin]

can i call myself a mid skill player yet? (heroic)

[hardy cargo]

personally I cannot stand using weakauras to track my abilities/rotation I have to use action bars lol

[sullen basin]

same

i have a weakaura for the bt crit thats it

also this little guy

[hardy cargo]

I have an aurabar, and a rage bar but to track my actual ability cds I must use action bars

[sullen basin]

i look at my player health bar to track my rage

default andy over here

[unreal onyx]

bis UI

[sullen basin]

reminds me of the classic ui

[hardy cargo]

is that another SUF gamer I see?

[unreal onyx]

ofc

I have 2 BT and 2 ramp icons in the middle of my screen

[sullen basin]

what the hell is an SUF

[hardy cargo]

shadowed unit frames

basically looks just like elvui unit frames

[sullen basin]

🤮

used to use elvui

[unreal onyx]

elvui is cringe

[sullen basin]

immediately uninstalled as soon as dragonflight broke it and never went back

[hardy cargo]

only difference I see is I need to set up my m plus debuffs

I like it, I just dont like how intensive it is

[barren dagger]

do you provide coaching for UI?

[ashen tundra]

I think SUI is better and I just put my action bars in the middle kinda like a weak aura

[dense elbow]

[digital sphinx]

guys, are we keeping S3 tier set or moving to S4?

[ashen tundra]

No tier we go naked

[hasty path]

?

[dense elbow]

I am a s3 enjoyer, S4 is popular as well

you can basically chose

[hasty path]

Ur psychotic

[ashen tundra]

Which tier is season 4? I haven’t even been playing

[hasty path]

Season 2

[digital sphinx]

i mean the new [old s2] set or we go with s4 489 set?

[ashen tundra]

Oh fuck I need to get season 4 tier asap

[digital sphinx]

😄

[ashen tundra]

Been playing too much classic

[hardy cargo]

non upgraded hero track sims about comparable to full 489 s4 on ST

[dense elbow]

You can go with 489 set, or go new 422, they are basically equal

[hardy cargo]

could be lower now actually I havent simmed since tier buffs

[dense elbow]

422 do have a 20-30k lead

[sullen basin]

good question i should download the s3 builds and sim myself again because i have nearly all tier 4 522 and only 483 t3

[digital sphinx]

you mean 522, right? 🙂

[dense elbow]

ye 522

[digital sphinx]

ok, ty

[dense elbow]

My brain doesnt like 500 for some reason

[hardy cargo]

only if you want to play s3

[unreal onyx]

only against a pretty penny

[hasty path]

Same

[sullen basin]

422 ilvl hunter season 3 > 522 ilvl hunter season 4 (survival)

[graceful bay]

You literally said if a warrior topped a chart he was playing with orangutans. Your words, not mine. hurdur

[dense elbow]

Can I count this as a 100 in my head?

[sullen dove]

i mean was mostly directed at carlo

but yeah

[sullen basin]

a good warrior can beat a good ret because a good ret is a much lower skill level than a good warrior (ret is easy)

[sullen dove]

holy

[hardy cargo]

yes

[dense elbow]

💕 yay!

[celest sierra]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/vNp5VYjgWCi6vwCL6Wbrtj simming like a beast

[graceful bay]

Bruh, implying fury isnt just as braindead as ret is lol.

[sullen basin]

ret can fight from more than 3 yards try again

[graceful bay]

Both have like 3 buttons

[sullen basin]

they're basically bm hunters

[dense elbow]

He aint implying, he speaking facts

spitting truth!

[graceful bay]

hurdur smash rampage do damage hurrrr

[sullen basin]

only thing a ret is better at than fury is somehow dying despite all the defensives

[dense elbow]

OooOoOooo you tell em!

[graceful bay]

both specs are literally entry level shallow in terms of difficulty, but you do you boo

[sullen basin]

doesnt change that ret is easier and also a good fury is better than a good ret?

[dense elbow]

You are so boned, my friend. OF carry the day - ilvl 511 or not!

[sullen basin]

do you main ret or something why so mad about facts

[graceful bay]

nope main enhance actually, which is why i find your comments particularly amusing

cheers 🙂

[dense elbow]

Was that an attempt to say "in truth, I am actually not only a student of this topic, I am actually the thesis paper writer and professor of studies!"

[sullen basin]

speaking of enhance its such an L the enhance voters chose season 3 over season 2, it was so much easier to press only stormstrike and top the meter

[graceful bay]

playstyle sucked, who wants to press 1 button

[unreal onyx]

ilvl logs

[sullen basin]

[dense elbow]

I was told they count

[unreal onyx]

where

[sullen basin]

my ilvl logs are worse than my overall therefore overall > ilvl

[dense elbow]

here

[sullen dove]

[unreal onyx]

NO

[dense elbow]

#rekt

[unreal onyx]

my ilvl dps logs are mid

[hardy cargo]

[dense elbow]

still beat ya anyhow

[unreal onyx]

but the HPS logs are good?

[celest sierra]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/j6R4Wk9zVc5nEuMpz6J7oX patchwork 5 mins

[unreal onyx]

[dense elbow]

Well, you did beat me there

[unreal onyx]

20k DPS variance but still both 99?

[dense elbow]

wait

[sullen basin]

uh oh that explains me losing to the ret on ras not sure how i lost that much uptime! then again they DO hit from 50 yards while we hit from -5 yards

[dense elbow]

ye

Weird

[unreal onyx]

where is your council

[dense elbow]

I was benched

ppl wanted icon

and I wanted icecream

We spent far too long on Tindral/Fyrakk to get far this raid

but sunday - sunday I will catch up

Same as with my ilvl

I am coming for ya

[hardy cargo]

only fun parsing I can do is in HC bc my guild is getting first slot mythic box every week then calling it quits

and doing hc, obv

[dense elbow]

This be fair. Also Panda starts tomorrow ye?

[unreal onyx]

they could've bought it 3 times now if they wanted it that bad

that logic doesn't apply in S4

[dense elbow]

... they wanted a guy in, I wanted icecream

I did not get icon, but I got the real price

[unreal onyx]

ye

[dense elbow]

Maybe I will try it out - if I can play my fury warrior there

[unreal onyx]

I will play it

but only for tmog

[dense elbow]

Ya can just import it over, or? I am out of the loop

[unreal onyx]

idk

i'll see

[dense elbow]

fair

[hardy cargo]

u make a toon on panda servers, level it then at the end of the event you port it to retail

so its a good way to level classes/heritage armor you dnt have

[dense elbow]

I got to... quest... and level?

[hardy cargo]

ya

[dense elbow]

Yiiikes

[hardy cargo]

expedited tho

within 4 zones youll be max level and all the raids are used as leveling raids too

[dense elbow]

Ye, I am still on "welcome to the dragonisles" - so I think I am good

questing aint for me

[unreal onyx]

you can do dungeons at lvl 10

[hardy cargo]

or that yeah

but dungeon spam boring imo

[unreal onyx]

I only want the tmog sets

[dense elbow]

Oh, recoloured challenge mode set coming?

[unreal onyx]

so I will do whatever gets me them the fastest

[unreal onyx]

don't think so

[hardy cargo]

p sure they alr said no challenge mode sets

[wary grove]

For embellishments are people running double Shadowflame for M+ or Shadowflame + bracers?

[dense elbow]

Shucks, would be actually kinda cool

Josh, double BSL, or BSL+allied are the most common

[hardy cargo]

either 2x blue silken lining, or 1x BSL + vers bracer

[wary grove]

Cheers boys

[dense elbow]

Hf o/

[rotund ginkgo]

@covert blaze

mission accomplished

now i can fail keys knowing im doing the best dmg i need to

[covert blaze]

POG

[dense elbow]

POG

[rotund ginkgo]

i ahve a SHPEED build

wanna see?

[hardy cargo]

I have a whole alt for speed

[rotund ginkgo]

BASELINE MOVESPEED BUILD

2K SPEED

[hardy cargo]

2k speed is definintely not 132% something is fucky there lol

[rotund ginkgo]

SPEED HAT
SPEED GLOVES
SPEED RING
SPEED BELT
SPEED TRINKET
SPEED WEP

i have 1978 speed

its probably cuz of warrior baseline 5% speed

[unreal onyx]

now play smf

[hardy cargo]

I have 3500 on an alt and I have 37%

oh I see its not +137%

its

total ms

wat character panel addon is that?

[rotund ginkgo]

@unreal onyx real

its just elvui

i think shadow&light changes ita bit tho

[dense elbow]

Legion broke me, after running for 200%+, before you got the kill stuff for more speed stuff - 132% just seems low

[rotund ginkgo]

yeah it says 1978 speed is +24%

[rotund ginkgo]

its true

[dense elbow]

Bring back legion speed for Fury baseline

Make fury great again

[eternal sundial]

DCS shows it neatly too

ignore lack of terts 😔

[dense elbow]

Where is speed?

[hardy cargo]

yeah I was reading it as 232% total so +132% bc base ui shows it like so

[eternal sundial]

on those 2 items

apparently

😔 miss her

[dense elbow]

You will find a new one before the season is over, promise

[hardy cargo]

do u also keep speed phials @rotund ginkgo ?

[unreal onyx]

dathea still purple

[eternal sundial]

fury council being 100k behind is funny

eranog 100k behind too

[unreal onyx]

arms boo

[dense elbow]

To be fair, we all know arms is just better

[eternal sundial]

@warm crag i will eviscerate you

[dense elbow]

But why care - when bosses just flop anyhow

[warm crag]

played like shit oh well

[hardy cargo]

150k for the top parses kekw

[unreal onyx]

raid over

got myth tier shoulders and myth tier hands

good upgrades, both hero before

[eternal sundial]

i played hc pips

from last tier

so its equal i think

[warm crag]

cant parse anymore anyways since i went for broodkeeper

good time to stop

[eternal sundial]

ye it doesnt matter

im not even getting wft over dhs

[warm crag]

i am because i blast crazy st and thats good enough of a reason

[eternal sundial]

i am attempting to convince

i got the info i was getting on kurog

we then forgot to move grps

[warm crag]

just link a p3 damage graph and say this is what wft does

[unreal onyx]

@dense elbow 423.2

and I still haven't taken an item out of vault

[dense elbow]

Aaah, that stings, that... stings

it is fine... tho... I can...

... I can...

...

[chrome plover]

[unreal onyx]

other woyer in my raid team is 526 now

[dense elbow]

512 is basically 523, I will catch up

[ember apex]

ddos him

[unreal onyx]

he got a 0 ilvl parse

3 parses for 525-527 arms

[ember apex]

heh

report him to ur officers

be like guys look at this

hes a liability

[hardy cargo]

now screenshot it out of context

[unreal onyx]

520-522 fury also only has 10 parses on dathea

[ember apex]

im 523

[unreal onyx]

I am now also 523

if I wanna go only for ilvl with my vault, I would buy myth boe helm and take nymue neck

big ilvl upgrades on both slots

[ember apex]

when it's a real season my gm buys everyone BoEs when we get to a tindral type of boss

[unreal onyx]

or buy helm and take cloak, but that'd be a waste too since I will have sark cloak sooner or later

[ember apex]

i miss that

[dense elbow]

S4 is dead anyhow, it is over, Pandaland is the new thing - so, 512 or 523, it is the same thing

[ember apex]

i still need to do d4 before panda

[unreal onyx]

giga-cope

[ember apex]

nah panda is gonna be real

u watch

they gonna change the twitch thumbnail and everything

[unreal onyx]

I will play it anyhow

I didn't play plunderstorm bc I hate pvp

[willow hazel]

my entire guild is rolling over on remix to do the raids together

[unreal onyx]

but panda I will play for tmog

[ember apex]

plunderstorm isnt real pvp

[unreal onyx]

do you fight players?

[willow hazel]

sometimes

[ember apex]

by definition it is pvp u are correct

[unreal onyx]

if yes, literal pvp

[ember apex]

yes literal pvp

[willow hazel]

but its nothing like wow pvp content otherwise

its better

[oblique raft]

[unreal onyx]

I mean, I don't like fighting against other players bc everyone I encounter is a sweatlord

[ember apex]

if nickelodeon/disney made pvp content it would be plunderstorm

u mythic raid talkin about sweat

[willow hazel]

welcome to video games in general in 2024

[ember apex]

10 year olds get into plunderstorm and could own

[willow hazel]

oh yeah

thank god for MMR systems

[ember apex]

yeah and u MMR out of the sweat lords if u cant keep up anyways

[unreal onyx]

but that is a team against a NPC, the fight is staged and everyone knows what is happening when and what to do at every second

[ember apex]

blizz knows its not fun getting permafarmed and its not fun fighting someone over and over w/ relatively little pushback

one time i went fishing in a mountain lake. the second my line hit the water i would catch a fish, like i would have a fish hooked in under 10 seconds every single time

i stopped fishing after 30 mins b/c i got bored

of catching fish non-stop

pvp is similar

its fun for like 10 mins to kill ez targets over and over

then u dont want to do it anymore

[rotund ginkgo]

I should

We're doing mythic tmrw

Wonder how I'll do

Just got puzzle and ring

So those are nice upgrades from hoof

[tranquil nimbus]

storm did not work because of the tier set. There s other problems with storm that would still make you play elementalist with s2 set unless it s PURE single target

[hasty path]

https://tenor.com/view/bruce-lee-chuck-norris-fight-me-bro-gif-12969683

@dapper goblet

[dapper goblet]

[rotund ginkgo]

REAL TALK

How do we feel about tww set

Appearance

[dapper goblet]

magni

[rotund ginkgo]

I kinda fw it

[light tapir]

Everything after wearing a dragon helmet is a downgrade

[rotund ginkgo]

Looks warriory

[light tapir]

The set itself is pretty decent tho

[dapper goblet]

def fits the mountain thane theme

[eternal sundial]

mthane would go hard on arm idk

not sure if I vibe with it as fury

[dense elbow]

I still find the 'Senitel' Heritage armor for Night Elves, are one of the better warrior mogs. It screams warcraft

[unreal onyx]

does anyone have a addon that displays item ilvl + equipped gems + enchants?

[hardy cargo]

bettercharacterpanel

[wraith hazel]

odd question, is there a single minded fury guide? Just want to for "fun"

[hardy cargo]

its the same guide but take two points and put them into smf talents

[ember apex]

if ur doing it for fun just do whatever u want to do

[unreal onyx]

are the sockets supposed to look like that?

[hardy cargo]

nah just /reload

[ember apex]

yes those are the best looking sockets

[hardy cargo]

if reload doesnt work perhaps its a bug or something idk I only see that when im inspecting people in a grp I am not near

[unreal onyx]

it still looks like that

after rl

[hardy cargo]

like join a key grp and inspect someone on a diff continent

[unreal onyx]

I used tinyinspect for the longest time but it just stopped working on my char

without changing anything

worked perfect on others, but just not on me

even worked fine in my bags

[hardy cargo]

hmm yeah ngl I dunno

never had that happen to me kekw

[dense elbow]

Ya kill boss on the highest difficulty you can, it drops or not. Every kill increases chance based on difficulty

You can do 1 kill per week "basically", as you dont have to do normal, hc and mythic - if you do mythic, it counts as doing HC and normal as well

[calm swallow]

Quick question for you lads: My top 2 recommendations in the droptimizer sims are Asscandy at #1 and Sark Cape at #2 (at max rank for both)

I do already have an asscandy from Normal at 515, so is it probably better to still get a higher-version of it or to go with Sark cape since I have one just not at 528, do you think?

[half cargo]

Weapon above all imo, especially a main hand

[calm swallow]

I currently have Fyr at 535 MH and N Asscandy 515 OH

[dense elbow]

Ya got aug and ring too, ye?

[calm swallow]

Ye

[half cargo]

Are you killing mythic nelth?

[calm swallow]

Ring from vault, aug fom last week

[calm swallow]

I don't do mythic raid, me casual

[dense elbow]

I would personally take asscandy, as I just like big proc hits, but - if you want to minmax, just do whatever sims the highest

[half cargo]

Hmm, tricky tbh

[calm swallow]

AOTC and 3k io is usually my max

[dense elbow]

Asscandy is 100% more fun

[half cargo]

I’d lean weapon I think

Sim a heroic ashkandur

See if that gets you most of the way

[calm swallow]

528/Bullion Ashkandur is about 4400 dps increase, 525 is 4044 so mostly comparable

Assuming it'll drop for me lol

This was the droptimizer results

[half cargo]

Mythic ashkandur is probably the way to go

[dense elbow]

Just take the weap, live the high of 400k dam procs

big number on screen = dopamine

[half cargo]

Unless you reliably kill heroic nelth and have a reasonable loot council

[frank dawn]

I have yet to loot a weapon this season besides some world content stuff on veteran track

glad I bought the ashkandur lol

[dense elbow]

My vault had 3 2handers, and 1 HC track one

you can have some of mine

[frank dawn]

well I don't need them now

[unreal onyx]

I have 4 hero track weapons in my bags

that I have no need for

[calm swallow]

Nelth is easier to kill than Sark IMO, but my guild doesn't do loot council and sometimes I pug bosses lol

[half cargo]

I was more focusing on the cloak being a rare drop

But yeah, just send weapon in that case

[unreal onyx]

just loot it

it's not hard

[calm swallow]

Also yes, rarer drop

[half cargo]

Cloak isn’t even recommended for m+

[unreal onyx]

*high end m+

[frank dawn]

you need stamina for more BSL uptime

obv

[unreal onyx]

this week is gonna be a hero trackmaxxing week

[calm swallow]

Oh really? Oh cause you steal people's stats, right

[hardy cargo]

no bc ithas no stamina

[unreal onyx]

more bc of the lack of stam

[half cargo]

It’s more about the lack of stamina on it

[calm swallow]

Ah, that also makes sense.

Well that's mostly what I do is keys so guess that settles it

[hardy cargo]

it really only matters if you are pushing higher

if u just do weeklys for fun then it doesnt matter

[unreal onyx]

I wil propably not go higher than like 13/14 this season

so I will go for sark cloak

[hardy cargo]

not many people do the content in which the stamina loss really matters much

[calm swallow]

I almost got 3.2k last season, so I'd consider that high-ish lol

Not MDI high, but higher than weekly dump

[hardy cargo]

im 3.1k currently and I definitely dont want it so I would advise against it then haha

[barren dagger]

thats not high enough to consider it a downside

[half cargo]

Not going sark cloak also frees up cloak slot for flavour pocket

[barren dagger]

3.2k last season i mean

[calm swallow]

Ooh good point. Asscandy it is then! Just have to get filial duty at some point then

[unreal onyx]

I will just go around that with a crafted neck

maybe

[frank dawn]

this is good lore, I was trying to figure out what I want to do with my flavor packet when I lose it on my ring lol

[half cargo]

[barren dagger]

how do you still have flavour pocket on ring though

you didn't replace it yet?

[frank dawn]

I'm still rocking both my season 3 rings lol

since I bought the ashkandur

[barren dagger]

damn lucky

or unlucky i guess

i lost my flavour right away

[frank dawn]

we'll call it a draw

[barren dagger]

feels real bad

[half cargo]

I lost mine today when I bought the broodkeeper ring

[frank dawn]

eranog and augury were within .1% for me so I went for Augury

[unreal onyx]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/fTp6Z21L4tJ81GLWj58k83

damn crafted neck is worse than 522 uld

[calm swallow]

I need that neck... or the one from tswift

[hardy cargo]

I just crafted my neck with bsl

[unreal onyx]

:monka

I am bsl boot + vers bracers gamer rn

[hardy cargo]

same but neck

im kinda boned for my next craft

[calm swallow]

bsl?

[hardy cargo]

boots are myth track, belt and cloak have avoidance

[hardy cargo]

blue silken lining

[calm swallow]

Ooh the while above 90% thing, I don't think I'm good enough for that xD I'll just stay shadowflame

[half cargo]

Even with low uptime it still pumps

[clever belfry]

just flame healers

[half cargo]

Defo go for it

Say you misplay on a pack and it drops, if it was there on pull with cds then it paid for itself

Shadowflame is kinda meh in keys

[barren dagger]

i've never seen it go below 40% and that's the simc default

[calm swallow]

Maybe when I've got more crests, right now I have belt and bracers with shadowflame. I have the vers bracers but they need to get upgraded too

[hardy cargo]

u can just recraft your sfp to it

[half cargo]

^

[calm swallow]

How much mastery does it give? Tooltip doesn't say

[hardy cargo]

1k at 525

[calm swallow]

Jeepers

[hardy cargo]

1049 to be exact

[calm swallow]

okayokay I'm doing it lol

Nice, took me up to 57%

[half cargo]

[calm swallow]

I'm not sure how to interpret that but I'm gonna go with either "Nice" or "Only 57%?" lmao

[half cargo]

“Nice” in this case

[dapper goblet]

[sinful spoke]

https://fxtwitter.com/STORMLUXX/status/1790584520938336594 i blame s2 voters

[barren dagger]

avg fury enjoyer

[empty mirage]

the dummies were broken lol

ur also being nerfed by ur fuckin dps chart tf is that bro lock in

ur losing 95% of ur damage bc of ur UI too

and on top of that u used cds before u got enraged lmao

[modest condor]

damn s2 voters ruining it for everybody!!

[empty mirage]

i voted for shadowlands season 1 set fr

[covert blaze]

Who are you talking to

[empty mirage]

dude that posted that clip

oh its a twitter clip

[covert blaze]

That's not him in the video tho

[empty mirage]

daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

[covert blaze]

Bro shouting at a cloud

[empty mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/guy-arguing-guy-talking-to-wall-talking-brick-wall-gif-18667615

thats my warrior brain right there

[paper ivy]

what am i doing wrong?

[ashen socket]

Dying

[snow edge]

What do you mean?

Try stunning the mob that casts the axe throw

[empty mirage]

kick button as well prolly

interrupt that hoe

[ashen socket]

Spell reflect

[snow edge]

Some melts will go through, but you can reflect the odd one on yourself yeh

[empty mirage]

its a physical attack

for the axes at least

[snow edge]

Melt champ, not the axe throw

[ashen socket]

Killing blow was melt

[empty mirage]

yeah you can just reflect that one

[ashen socket]

Shadowmeld too

Could have hit enraged regen

[empty mirage]

stance dance

[modest condor]

http://puu.sh/K6Z5t/61d0f33c55.png

that's what you did wrong

[modest condor]

bleed on you for 7 seconds, no defensives used, no stop on the melt

[empty mirage]

bro was EATIN it

[sullen dove]

or wait no

i mean he's been dead for like 30 seconds

in that clip

image

so maybe he did use those

cuz been in combat for about 40 seconds

[empty mirage]

either way def stance and enraged regen woulda kept him going for a while

[sullen dove]

and 0 chance u do 600k

regardless yea i mean that also looks like 2 axe bleeds maybe? i dont think they last that long

or maybe it is like a 6 second dot or something

regardless idk yea just pay attention to health and think about possible ways you can die in packs, like if youre half hp in a pack with a bunch of those lava boys you can "kind of assume" that there are gonna be random stray melt casts going off so either pay attention to their casts or just try to heal yourself

[muted star]

this too

[sullen dove]

yea i mean same thing it couldve been used and come off cd at the time of ss being taken, but prolly didnt hit it or wouldntve died to that

w8 500k healing too maybe he did it hit

[paper ivy]

true that i didnt stun that add

i was casting puzzle box

and i died

[paper ivy]

i dropped Aoe storn for roar cd reduction and i picked aoe fear

[meager void]

so Seal of Filial Duty is like having a mage casting barrier on you randomly

and its so so good when your pinky is where it shouldnt be on m+

[wraith wharf]

..i miss Gurthalak

[ashen socket]

Girthy

[dapper goblet]

fury owns

[meager void]

You know Im still figuring what to do with this. Ive been running both capstones roar and intim shout but I sometimes miss a good ol' shockwave

[hardy cargo]

wait.. you traded uproar for fear?

like intimidating shout??

[meager void]

I think he's using 1min roar and intim shout

[hardy cargo]

I hope so lol

[meager void]

If Im translating his unga bunga zug correctly, "Aoe storn" is Shockwave

AoE Stormbolt?

[clever path]

what is reasonable BSL uptime in say a 12 or higher?

[compact knot]

prob 65%?

or 60%

kinda depends on the key

uldaman 9 i had a 66.6% uptime

[clever path]

So, I have double SF embellishment and doing any BSL is worse in aoe, i'm only at 55% mastery with runes

[paper ivy]

nope im running aoe fear ( intimidating shout) and uproar

i traded stamina and schockwave for that

[hardy cargo]

ok whew yeah I just read your statement wrong

shockwave is fine to run tho in pugs if u wanted to

[clever path]

Does anyone know how many item uses for last boss of neltharus you need for the shield?

[paper ivy]

yeah but i really like uproar

😛

in really high keys i gotta run schockwave

but normal 10s

dps it is

[hardy cargo]

its not as big as youd think, but its moreso comp dependant on whether or not you want to run swave

[sour tundra]

does WW stacks have to be up to cleave the legendary axe ability onto all mobs?

[hardy cargo]

no

[low folio]

you can just use whirlwind itself to put the dot on everything

oh ability

[fallen geode]

should i buy ashkandi with bullians since im so far behind

[hardy cargo]

do u have legendary? also what have you bought so far

[fallen geode]

havent bought anything

nope i just came back i quit when augments came out

[hardy cargo]

are you going to try to get the legendary or

[fallen geode]

was only gonna do m+

yes i am

but i feel like i wont have it for a bit

[hardy cargo]

then id go for trinkets

correct you wont

7 mythic kills and 14 or 15 heroic kills before its guaranteed

[fallen geode]

my weapons are 440

[hardy cargo]

send weapon then lol

[fallen geode]

okay xD

yeaaaa i wont be doing mythic ever again

im just gonna only do M+

[hardy cargo]

but youll have 3 purchases this week

after doing just lfr so

er wait

2 since u didnt play last week I presume

[fallen geode]

isnt it 4 rn

for the max bullians

[hardy cargo]

6 bullions if u did the weekly last week

[fallen geode]

oh i mean catch up mechanic

[hardy cargo]

ya

[fallen geode]

so not really worried im at 3 rn

[hardy cargo]

without those from the weekly its 4 total (2 purchases)

[fallen geode]

i didnt have power for almost the entire week

gotcha ill just get the ashkandi rn then ill do heroc tomorrow

just buying boosts atm since at 12m gold

theyre like 300k rn so pretty cheap

[deep sapphire]

So is this the waiting room until TWW so we can be useful again?

[summer quail]

huh? fury pumping in m+ right now

[dapper goblet]

fury owns

[frank dawn]

fury feels great in keys IMO, it just can't help with anything important xd

[fallen geode]

i mean it just doesnt die

great st

[solemn cedar]

am i supposed to use ash in main hand and leggo in off hand if both are maxed? i keep seeing it, but nothing online as to why

[fallen geode]

ash in off hand

[modest condor]

trust me i'll find a way to die even as fury warrior

[fallen geode]

lego in main

[summer quail]

higher ilvl in mainhand

always

[solemn cedar]

aight, thats what i have, idk why ppl are doing the other

[modest condor]

as for the why:
weapon dps is halved in offhand, so if you put the lower ilvl weapon there you lose less of its stats

idk why anyone would put a maxed ilvl legendary in offhand other than making a mistake

[solemn cedar]

i think critcake did it in some ptr videos and ppl are copying that? that was the only info i could find online

[modest condor]

ilvls were normalized in ptr dungeons so it didnt matter there

[solemn cedar]

ah ok

[frank dawn]

once again critcake is the source of all problems

[gilded pawn]

He didn’t vote for s2 at least

[left perch]

he did on his alt accounts

also fake ronin y account, you phony

[gilded pawn]

I’m the real ronin Y

I’m the fake ronin X

[left perch]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-youre-a-big-fat-phony-gif-11361132

[dapper goblet]

season 1 owns

[empty mirage]

yo how hard is it to unlock nightborn bc i NEED one of these mfers

[willow cradle]

Pretty easy nowadays

[thorny peak]

its lego upgrade > eranog ring > ashkunder > trinkets right?

oh damn never mind ashy is mad low on prio

[snow edge]

Current gear needs to be factored in, ie if you don’t have a 528 OH (and aren’t raiding / don’t have access to M weapons) it climbs in priority

[compact flint]

If Augury is capped at 5 why is most people using it if people pull more than 5 mobs for AoE?

[thorny peak]

it scales really well

[dense elbow]

On mass AoE it falls behind, but on bosses and smaller pulls, it catches right back up.

If you know you are going to pull giga all day, then puzzle+statstick is king 👑

[compact flint]

Well you know people pull loads of mobs in Academy is why I asked lmao

[dense elbow]

If ya do each section in 1-2 pulls it go statstick for sure, if ya doing the 2-3 packs, go aug

[compact flint]

Puzzle + OCE?

[dense elbow]

Sounds good to me

Gl in there, and happy pumpin

[patent nexus]

Hi all what is everyone crafting for their embellished this season?

Shadowflame boots don’t seem as good in m *

[compact flint]

I'm still using Bracers embellishment on primal Molten vambraces

Though I'm not sure about the 2nd Embellishment choice. I'm using cloak as the 2nd from season 3

[patent nexus]

I’m in a similar spot as well

[dense elbow]

Info is in the pins 📌
Most popular are either 2x BSL or BSL+allied

[patent nexus]

Thank you, I checked but I must have missed it

[lavish cosmos]

how about stats? we still go mast/vers? and what if ijsut my war as an alter, and chromatic and icon are a no go, augury its decent still? wanting to know what to use my 3 bullion

[empty mirage]

the strategic move to be a nightborne is done we drippy

[red berry]

there are probably specific dungeons where augury would be really good too

maybe ruby?

groups tend to do the one big pack at the beginning but

after that i think the groups tend to be smaller

[hardy cargo]

its good in all of them

[red berry]

well yeah its a very strong trinket but

im thinking just

about pull size

[hardy cargo]

I think unless running several buffs, any damage you would lose by hypothetical, mass chain pulling is made up by it just being way better in every other situation

[red berry]

tru

[hardy cargo]

with icon tanks and healers that are pushing wont equip it

oce its still prolly the dps only so

[red berry]

i wish i would see more OCE in keys

[hardy cargo]

its also only specific classes that rlly want it so most ppl just opt out since part of its power is in others

[hardy cargo]

augury is very good yes, also stats are a sim question. but in general haste, vers, and mastery are all very good

[lavish cosmos]

ye i bought augury, its just an alt so i dont think too much about it

was asking stats cuz i think il just make boots with BSL, mast vers and the wrist later when a guildie stops raiding so he crafts em

[amber geyser]

Greetings my glorious 2 2h weapon-weilding brothers! How good is "Dungeon Slice" for M+ simming? from a few other specs I've tried out it's very good at recommending the right gear for AoE/M+ but the damage numbers are not to be trusted. Will "Dungeon Slice" still recommend the right gear to equip as Fury? 🤔

[hardy cargo]

its innacurate

as fury u can just do a ST sim and its good enough

if u want to dig deeper do 1t 5m and a 5t 1m

[amber geyser]

tysm!

also with the new Fury 4-set is it back to very high APM? or a bit more chill like S3 was?

[hardy cargo]

we zug very quickly this tier

in s3 we still had high CPM but we didnt like haste as much

[modest condor]

both seasons are high apm

[amber geyser]

I'm debating returning to zug Fury or if I want to wander the lower APM meadows of Arms for the first time (I've just been told Arms is slower than Fury) but someting feels wrong if I dont have 2 2h weapons in my Dwarven hands.

[hardy cargo]

arms and fury abt the same speed rn

its a 4fun season so just pick whichever of you two you enjoy more 🙂

[amber geyser]

o7

thank you, brothers!

[hardy cargo]

np, have fun out there

[sour tundra]

Who's ready to slap in MOP remix

[hardy cargo]

its out in like

10 hrs or so right

[sour tundra]

10am tomorrow Pacific Time

[amber geyser]

I shall do the 1T 5 min and 5T 1 min sims to appeace the robot overlords and get some of this bullion power I'm missing out on >:D

[hardy cargo]

theres a quick guide type up made my archimitros on the best way to spend bullions

either i nthe pins of this channel or in the #updates-midnight

[amber geyser]

oh before I go-go. Are there stat goals/caps? I see very different stat prios on icy-veins vs Wowhead and neither have listed goals of stat % to aim for.

[hardy cargo]

just sim, robot will tell u when to stop getting which stat

top gear, not sat weights

[summer quail]

Nothing to aim for. Like golg said, just sim

[hardy cargo]

u can also do droptimizer to see what pieces you should be aiming for

[fast crest]

wow I was gonna get diurna ring with bullions but see this sim:

didn't realize anvil was that good

[hardy cargo]

how long is that sim? like 4m?

[fast crest]

5 min patchwerk 1 target

[amber geyser]

Y'all kick ass, thanks again! I'll probbaly be back once I get a taste of the tier/bullion >:D

[hardy cargo]

np brotha have a good one

im surprised to see signet brand below anvil but /shrug

[fast crest]

me too

[hardy cargo]

also idk what content you are doing but those trinks are rlly only good on longer st fights

[fast crest]

i think i'd prefer signet so i don't have to pay attention to the anvil cooldown

but i suppose it can just be macro'd to a generic key on rotation

[hardy cargo]

i believe archi had some macro to help with the bullshit of anvil delaying your global

[chilly fractal]

Are you still wearing S3?

[fast crest]

that I am

[chilly fractal]

Yea that’s why anvil is that high

If you plan to switch to S4 ever anvil drops in value

[fast crest]

what's the reason for that? I haven't thought to sim s3 vs s4 for this yet

vers stacking on s3 vs s4 ?

[chilly fractal]

Asscandy drops in value too

It procs off Annihilator is the basic explanation

As opposed to Raging Blow which you actively have to hit and Annihilator doing it’s thing on your auto attacks

[fast crest]

oh interesting - strange it doesn't average out on proc rate with s4 use of raging blow

[low folio]

rets are cheaters with anvil man, they get to run an auto attack talent withotu changing their whole build for it

[fast crest]

but annihilator in s3 is just always on

[low folio]

it doesnt average out becuase of how our new build works

we press rampage above all else

[open prairie]

i mean dhs have it proc off chaos strike

which is

most of their gcds

[fast crest]

i guess at some point i'll have to switch to s4 so maybe not the best pick to go anvil now lol

[low folio]

but anvil is still better for furys new build than it is for arms if we talking keys

[chilly fractal]

If your doing 5 min fights Brand fucks

Or longer

[open prairie]

clearly best investment is just get brood ring

for one you'll never take off

[fast crest]

i'd just pick diurna ring for this week and not think about it again until next purchase 😄

[chilly fractal]

Sounds good

[open prairie]

you have 3 bullions this week

or should

ermm 3 purchases

[fast crest]

got legendary and augury already

[hardy cargo]

fire dam ring is a rlly good purchase

[cosmic lance]

Eranog ring is probably next best

[fast crest]

debating a bit because i have heroic ring in vault, so options are that + bullion trinket
or bullion ring + 2 sockets

[hardy cargo]

if u buy the ring do u have two things worth socketing?

surely one of your crafted pieces is wrist

[fast crest]

the ring itself and crafted belt

i got a mythic wrist with socket from raid. and would craft engineer wrist for brez fun

embellishments currently on neck + belt

very specific case I think for me so just have to decide on something lol

[chilly fractal]

Socket the belt and buy Eggnog ring socketing that sounds like a very solid play to me based on what you said but the decision is yours to make

[willow patrol]

This is my current sim at 5 bosses 1 min

[fast crest]

^ that is what I'm leaning toward it's just less of an upgrade in short run. safer play though

[willow patrol]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/a3BM2WRvKD15sv3rvVhkdD

ashes at 4.4 % is not relevant, but seems really low dps increases on most stuff though?

got eggnogg ring and upgraded lego so far

jesus fuck why is it simming on defensive stance

[chilly fractal]

Actually in the short term 2 sockets should be quite a lot of DPS

[fast crest]

I think you’re right - forgot to account for the additional socket in s4

Heroic ring + trinket is still more on sim but I’d eventually have to get the sockets and probably upgrade ring anyway

[wet wyvern]

if peeps arent using oce icon stacking in m+ am i better off sending augury

[naive swallow]

anyone got this bug be4? https://gyazo.com/3214b4f5bd439b6388958b9b8923aece

tried relogging , why isnt it registered

[ivory ingot]

Right click on the old spark to remove it

[naive swallow]

oh worked , thanks

[ivory ingot]

Is there a upgrade thing that's making difficulty go up as well?

[rocky wharf]

no one pugging any more? havent been able to join or host a 6-8 key? learn to tank?

[hardy cargo]

dunno if you are NA or EU but its p late so prolly part of the reason u are struggling

[astral path]

my stats looking goofy af

[oak garden]

Mid actually. After the buffs

Your dmg is your Boss uptime actually

Less Boss uptime and your dmg is fucked

[quasi river]

Hi guys, how do you solve when to blow vs hold cooldowns when you are about to lose uptime? Like if Reck/Rav come up 2s before the boss becomes immune you obviously hold them, while if they come up 20s before then you blow them. But where is the line between those? And what about smaller amounts of downtime?

I'm trying to optimise my fury warrior and I'm not sure how to solve this sort of problem, Fury is different to other specs because the AM feedback loop adds an extra variable.

[oak garden]

Depends on your feeling

I mean i would send it if it line up wirh your Avatar buff uptime

But i am no pro warrior Just reached 3,3k last season and have 95+ logs on heroic.

[young swan]

its pretty high up there after the buffs

[quasi river]

Aligning with avatar is a good point actually, and I can follow the standard "send if you'll get full value and/or won't lose a usage" rule for Avatar since it doesn't have CDR

[young swan]

but thats just in a sim stack, obviously raid encounters are a bit diff

[eternal sundial]

@wild mural smf?

[wild mural]

Ofc

[quasi river]

Fury is also artificially lower in warcraftlogs rankings rn because arms is so nuts on ST that the best players are all on arms not fury

[hardy cargo]

you dont want to hold reck/rav for more than a couple rampages at most, so id say whatever will fit inside the hurricane window

[quasi river]

This is literally what I'm doing this season lmao. I equip a shield and suddenly people want to run keys with my warrior again.

[hardy cargo]

which is like 8s I think

[quasi river]

Yeah I was thinking Hurricane might be a good rule of thumb

[hardy cargo]

the feedback loop on the cd of reckrav is really aggressive so holding it is really bad

[south kayak]

Is Remix release global?

[rocky wharf]

this is when i usually run, late night west coast. 4 x just for vault and crests. healers non existing 😦

[hardy cargo]

I think it is

[tender cairn]

I've been invited into few 7's

takes a while tho

prot is almost always instant

this week will be prolly worse cuz afflicted

[quasi river]

My gf plays shaman this season so thankfully she can handle all that "utility" and "dealing with affixes" nonsense that warriors are too cool to worry about

I probably just won't do any keys without her this week lol

[tender cairn]

bro got a life hack

[hardy cargo]

when I have low hp, I scream at my healer. when afflivcted goes off, I scream at the healer. Incorporeal? scream at healer.... surely you see a pattern

I also yell at my healer to give me good bsl uptime 🙂

[clever belfry]

util bots

[tender cairn]

I help with afflicted

by using command shout

[hardy cargo]

idol rly good for st

[tender cairn]

so many trinks to grind

[hardy cargo]

I played pb in a couple keys didnt rlly like it so I just dropped it in favor of sandglass

which would be idol if I had one

[tender cairn]

yeah I might just do the same

[quasi river]

Wait are you sure that's not just sim bait I know we've had weirdness from trinkets like that in the past

[tender cairn]

dont see why it woul

box still beats it hard in aoe

[midnight kite]

Add 522 sandglass (from HM DOTI) to sim

[tender cairn]

im never doing doti but sure

wicked

[eternal sundial]

they stole all my pad...

end result on log

[tender cairn]

the bastards!

[hardy cargo]

nah idol is actually good

[sterile shore]

Is there someone who can listen to me and give me advice and help ? It is not about fury warrior, not even the game, I know, off topic, sorry. 😦

[faint whale]

But 420 tho

[south kayak]

holy fuck

[faint whale]

Mhmm

[south kayak]

we almost wied because

wiped

chargath didn't use chains

before his firey focus

is this a known bug

[sterile shore]

😭

[eternal sundial]

i want 470 sir

[faint whale]

Next time for sure

[eternal sundial]

(it was expected and i am okay with it as i dont care abt normal)

[faint whale]

Maybe 500

[eternal sundial]

just doin it for flightstones

[eternal sundial]

500 is doable if u highroll for sure

[south kayak]

yo phil

[eternal sundial]

m

[faint whale]

Ask pi windfury and aug

[eternal sundial]

like if 500 works on eranog

why not on dathea

[south kayak]

you ever had chargath not use chains before firey focus

[eternal sundial]

ye

[south kayak]

oof

[tender cairn]

not quite

had a guy just not break them and then it vanished and then boss just stood doing nothing

after 20 secs or so he went back to raging but we had no chains anymore

[south kayak]

bugs been going crazy

[slim pollen]

Had 2 chains on 1 guy before. While everyone was alive as well.

[south kayak]

LMAO

[eternal sundial]

wl can force that p consistently

if u circle blink the apply

[south kayak]

man what is going onw

why am i getting dc'd

right before last boss

[empty mirage]

fury should have cyclone thats all im sayin

[tender cairn]

fury should have earthquake tbf

[subtle lagoon]

fury should have lust, battle res, int and stam shout, mind control shout

[empty mirage]

typ shit hro

[polar remnant]

agreed

[oblique trail]

lakie spotted

[polar remnant]

👋 just pvp bantering ignore me

[oak garden]

Lust shout would be enough make it a choose between Lust and HP shout

[oblique trail]

I'm so sorry

That you decided to go there

[tardy lark]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/260429358739619840/854855268747706388/whatthe.gif

[polar remnant]

they are my people for better or worse 🙂

[oblique trail]

Sorry I will never associate them with you

[south kayak]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/8cXh2aoPhvjsxs6q4dSa2t

probably ashkandur angle if I don't take something else for arms

[chrome plover]

idk but it happened to me before

[hardy cargo]

ive only seen it once maybe twice

[clever belfry]

idk just get ashk on mythic nex t week

[south kayak]

i don't raid mythic

[clever belfry]

good time to change this

[upper wave]

hey all, im new on this dc. is there a channel for DF s4 BIS trinkets, for fury warriors?

have some questions

[chrome plover]

it is on the wowhead/icyveins guide, and there's some info on trinkets to spend bullions on here: #updates-midnight message

[upper wave]

yeah, but when i compare guides with the trinket that the best furys are playing in m+ its completely different

^^

and i want to know why

[clever belfry]

give specific examples.

[chrome plover]

still early season and some people havent got those trinkets yet

but yeah a specific example would be good

[upper wave]

i mean, augury is best simed trinket for me, but all furys are playing inc from primal

is it because the play in full groups with the trinket

[clever belfry]

augury is kinda low prio for most people that are raiding

as most people who raid kinda just play arms in there

[upper wave]

important hint, im a fulltime m+ player

[clever belfry]

most high end players arent tho

[eternal sundial]

thank god

dogass content frfr

[clever belfry]

m+ is very important to the modern game

game would be hella dead without it

[chrome plover]

also bear in mind the top of the ladder often exclusively play with the same group and might have icons on their team

[clever belfry]

(at the high end)

[upper wave]

true, and its 10 times harder than dancing your choreo in mythic raid, till boss is down 😄

[clever belfry]

dont make absolute statements like this

infinite scaling content is by design infinite difficulty

but this is only applicable to a subset of players even smaller than the mythic raiding community

[upper wave]

yeah, but there is no surprises in the raidcontent i think. if you have the gear and a group which plays together a long time, thats not a big deal imo

however

so you cant give me the reason why the top5 m+ warriors play with inc trinket instead of augury? :/

[tender cairn]

there aren't any surprises in m+ either

[clever belfry]

...we did?

[tender cairn]

its just numbers

[clever belfry]

give it a few weeks and u will see more people who play multiple specs have all items for all specs

[upper wave]

oh sorry, i didnt see that line

thanks 🙂

thats the only explaination i had for it as well. because dps wise, the augury should be stronger in random groups

[chrome plover]

augury is stronger in random groups

[tender cairn]

u just wont see random groups in top

[upper wave]

true 😄

so its a good choice to pick augury for me as a random player i guess? from my buillons

[eternal sundial]

prolly

[empty mirage]

augury never lets me down

[tender cairn]

love me some augury

[strong swan]

How to get higher ilvl shikaari trinket, atm i have 480

[tender cairn]

get lucky

[upper wave]

okay, its done^^

[strong swan]

From weekly quest for half a spark?

That trinket sims highest for me, even then aug

[tender cairn]

from any weekly chest I think

[chrome plover]

yes

any of those weekly caches

give champion gear

[strong swan]

Thank you

[flat river]

Hows remix

Or is it not out yet

[chrome plover]

i think it's out later today

about the time that I raid

[flat river]

Aw

When do u raid

@chrome plover

[tender cairn]

the timer is on wowhead

silly goos

[flat river]

Link

[tender cairn]

no im lazy

[flat river]

Lmao

8 PM my time

[tender cairn]

[flat river]

So 7 server time

Who here will make arms warrior

[tender cairn]

im not even sure imma bother

[chrome plover]

6:30 uk time

[tender cairn]

ngl

[flat river]

I have all classes max lvl so arms is the way to go for me

[flat river]

Mythic or heroic?

[chrome plover]

mythic

heroic is optional mains/alts on reset day

[flat river]

Can i come

[chrome plover]

no

[flat river]

[tender cairn]

why the av has to be the one

[chrome plover]

20 player limit blame blizzard

[flat river]

Im good trust

[tender cairn]

I dun want to grind that silly polearm

[flat river]

I killed first 2 vault bosses in first season

In a pug too

[tender cairn]

on normal?

[flat river]

Mythic

[chrome plover]

i have hoi sword and none sim better

i gave the av one to a guardian druid yesterday

[tender cairn]

av one sims best for me

[flat river]

I also am part of the leggo gang so big dps

[chrome plover]

ash will drop next week so that's fine

[tender cairn]

council didnt drop mace

crying and sobbing

[flat river]

Chawie can u kill Rasza 1-shot for me

[chrome plover]

no i cant solo one shot raz sorry

[flat river]

With your guild

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we did it yesterday u missed it

[flat river]

Wa

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i fell off the platform on my hunter

[flat river]

I thought u were raiding today

[chrome plover]

but i got the mount

u meant on mythic

[flat river]

Yeah

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we aint getting that far

[flat river]

I belieb

[chrome plover]

guild is reformed after not playing in 2 years

[flat river]

[chrome plover]

we might kill brood

but i think raz is a bit of prog

[flat river]

Ok get brood ring for me

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no i need that

[flat river]

No like

For me

Get it for yourself

[chrome plover]

oh

okay

i think half the raid needs it

but ok

[flat river]

I will give you all my luck

You know that moment in hunter x hunter when gon got all his strenght from the future

I will send u all my luck from the future

No more items will drop for me

[chrome plover]

sounds good to me

ty

[flat river]

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i never finished it

[flat river]

Sorry for spoiler

[chrome plover]

got halfway through the season with the bugs

idk if it's a spoiler

actually maybe i did finish it

idk

[flat river]

Anyways

Take my luck

[chrome plover]

cheers fam

[flat river]

[south kayak]

you guys playing fury on a boss?

in vault

[chrome plover]

probably all of them

tbh

[south kayak]

based

[flat river]

Fury BiS

Even on eranog

[south kayak]

not too bad

[sullen basin]

joined a heroic broodkeeper pug and wiped 3x to the tanks not knowing where to move the boss (just go away from the orbs?)

[flat river]

And terros

[flat river]

There is a specific rotation

[south kayak]

[flat river]

[chrome plover]

gajeel 🙏

[south kayak]

insert Smug Cat

Sennarth best arms boss