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Did the key go longer than 27mins?
So you used on CD, that's good
But PB isn't that great for fury
Too much mastery, we already have like 5k+
I'm running nokhud/irid frag now
Not to be mean, but I guess key was dead based on DPS.
This is what ya should do, log your next run and record it if possible. Then take that to #449510248579858432
If noone checks it within the next 12h give me a ping and I will do so, but now I am going zzz
Oh no you're def playing wrong
But may as well set yourself up for success
next key I will do
Gl my man
Takes time
i never had something like this
We all do stupid shit, trust
Brother I sold fyrakk every week, UStop50, and 3 weeks ago I lept into the frontal
Shit happens
hope ill find a way to fix it
#449510248579858432 will, always do
damn
xd
how do i log
can u tell me again
with dbm
We all fuckup, you have to do enough of each key to understand positioning and CD timings etc
how does it work
Check the box to autolog, make sure to ✅ m+ loging, rest is auto
Then go go warcraftlogs and download their uploader
You want to record trash
There ya go, after you are done, upload the file to logs, then share the link in #449510248579858432
Uploader tool will fix that for you
Warcraftlogs, bottom of the page, download their uploader
Aight happy key, and godspeed. If you feel you plated bad cause nervous, just do another key
thoughts on 515 pb vs 496 augury? idk which to run
just looted pb last dng
so havent played with it at all in s4
if you wanna do healer damage
ty
absolutely not, fury barely sacrifices st to grab aoe
wrong channel
you don't go full st as arms either

its honestly not that big of a difference between aoe and st talents
in terms of ST damage when i sim
318k vs 377k 2min
No way fury loses that much... wait, he got the metal axe as a profile pic...
It is an arms lad that is lost, huh?
yes
Sadly the dps lead doesn't make up for the brainpower diff 
Not literal BIS you know what I mean haha
It's argueably BIS for arms M+
Probably PB til you get another trink
no that's not why i said that
pb is definitely better than hoof in m+
Hoof ye, nokhud stompy boi though is pumping
that's passive tho, then you dont have an on use
that one is actually garbage for fury
But I'm doin it Tues, I'm doin the aug
I got 4 shots at diurna ring, I'll use LFR IDGAF come @ me bro
I'll do a key w PB+nokhud instead of irid for science
irideous is garbage for fury and trampling hooves is garbage on aoe
Irid simming pretty high for me in multi, idk why
but I guess fury really doesn't GAF about strength as much
i mean ashes of embersoul is just a better irideous
maybe you're just low on mastery and that's why irid is simming good for you
I tried, guild was not giving me ashes lol
but the way the trinket works just doesnt fit with fury
It's probably making up for my lack of regemming tbh
but it's gone Tues anyway for augury so we ball
If I regem to mastery, surely it makes me replace
... why does puzzle box still have a cast time
yeah pb feels wayyy better
now ig I should sim augury vs spiteful storm
but that trinket doesnt feel bad
Because it’s insane mastery for 30 seconds
true.... doesnt mean i gotta like it
Tbf the cast time on PB is not that bad for what they could have made it. Inconvenient for sure but meh.
it's annoying if you use it mid pull but on pull it just lets your tank get aggro for 1 more second
I agree
you buying augury on tuesday?
big
Ye fuckit
Fury giga fucks, we're reclearing all the raids 1 more time then takin a break anyway
May as well get fury shit
idk if im gonna play more arms or more fury so i need to make a decision between icon/oce and augury 
Guild voted to do 3 more weeks then just raid once a month til TWW
Icon/OCE still depend on group having it
whats the problem with valdrakken target dummies
Bugged
They are borken.
Take no damdam
if u got ppl doing the other roles/flights icon/oce fuck good, if not then just augury
this is my personal detemining factor between the two
yeah but icon/oce would be for arms not fury
idk i did that and it wasnt super bad
and from the brief research i did it's likely you get a healer with icon even in pugs
idk
they dont sim terribly for fury
Eventually we'll have them all
that too
Augury BIS by far for fury, and not super low for arms
So gonna run it, eventually get OCE as well, and keep a backup for if noone has OCE
Ez GG
i wanna see some signet brand numbers in m+ tbh
alr told u if u manifest mythic augury in my vault ill grab it 
(I will unironically be purchasing ashes next week)
im buying augury
Imagine not picking Zaqali Chaos Grapnel
what slots and embellishments should fury make?
Lookin like boots/wrists
Don't fall for that blue silken lining sim bait. Getting uptime on them as melee is a pipe dream. Any guide that tells you BSL either doesn;t actually play the spec or run exclusively in pre-mades and has a pocket healer with CONSTANT HOTs on them.
Now for the real stuff:
#1: Allied wristguards are a solid all-content choice (because fury is stacking vers now)
#2: Shadowflame armor patch will help with single target and provide procs for your eranog ring
Then, third embellishment could be another shadowflame patch and you can run double patches in raid as an option
Or, frostfire legguards of preparation are really strong for m+
Then, for your 5th embellishment, try blue silken lining, look at your logs and you can hear me whispering in your ear "told you so" 😛
thanks!
You should disregard all that
oh!
Shadowflame is worthless on aoe, and the haste legs needs very specific scenarios to work
Blue silken lining doesn’t even need high uptime to blast, and it pumps in both aoe and single target
My Blue Silken works perfectly fine. I play mostly pugs for M+ and it has little down time. We have decent self heals to keep it up too.
To be fair, vers wrists is a good suggestion, my gripe was with the rest
Good in keys bad compared to arms in raid unless U actually get to aoe
Still pretty good in St but arms usually rocks st fights. Play what you want it’s a fun season
If you can get a 40% uptime on BSL you get a fraction of 1% benefit over the patch.
It just comes down to you being over 90% health a large majority of the time.
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/s677XeL7bySKEc4Y6WwXNp
so if i dont know any crafters i just gather / buy all the necessary mats to make lets say a 525 wrist? then put in a work order and hope someone crafts it? sorry i don't know how this work order system goes
Yes, but don’t put in a public order
Send a personal order to someone you trust
Post the request in trade chat to find someone specific
Public tends to always screw you over with a lower ilvl craft
Trade chat or guildees are safe routes
in a +13 today i had 81% uptime on bsl
Are u NA or eu
NA
What server
Area-52
Good
Send the order to cheche
Ill make it for u
Wont be today cuz im in bed already but tomorrow i can after work
Ok so maybe yall will hard disagree with me on this but hear me out
If you have an artifact appearance on an alt you should be able to use it on any of your characters that can tmog that weapon type
Thoughts?
Like dual wielding the dk artifact weapons
Inclined to disagree just on lore/identity purposes
Then again, everyone wields a gorehowl now
So maybe they should just send that idea
I think it would be cool for the game
Leaves more options for tmog and sorta promotes having alts so you can have more tmog for your main
Or you make it where everyone can wear the tier of their armor type
Being able to wear the dk and pally set from nighthold is sick and I wish they did it more
Ngl, I’d be annoyed seeing paladins or dks in the tomb set
That set is just iconic for warrior
The black version at least
I mean you can have certain ones off limits but like
I think the majority should be available
Think all or nothing would be best
Otherwise people will be pissed at specific ones not being available
Would also be a hassle to decide which ones make the cut
Where do you draw the line?
Imagine a rogue with antlers
Or a hunter with totems strapped on his back
Plate is fairly interchangeable amongst classes but leather and mail ones could be really jarring
fury gives me carpal tunnel help me
is diurna's mainly good for ST?
its good always but yeah its value diminishes in aoe
debating that vs augury
thats gonna be more of a question of how good your trinkets are now
i'm still using old augury (489) and got a heroic OCE. also have a few random trinkets I haven't tried out yet - dragon games, magmammoth scale, trampling hooves
i've just been mindlessly blasting through 8-9 keys lol
hooves can definitely work for a bit
still in S3 tier
the big thing with the ring is that its literally always a 1-2% dps gain (cant remember the number) because its stat value isnt dimished for having the damage proc
i do like the versatility
at the end of the day it really just doesnt matter all that much cause ur getting both no matter what
other thought is that it'll be 3 weeks until amirdrassil is back on rotation
and next week is vault raid
guess can't really go wrong but i'd be slapping myself if i luck out on a ring lol
i mean u got 3 bullion this week, what did u spend the 2 on
nothing yet
yeah i might just sit on them until tuesday
more like a new coat of paint but hope its at least noticeable 😄
wow 525 vs 489 augury is an extra 90k damage on the tooltip, almost 50% more
290k vs 200k
Anyone happen to know if Coiled Serpent Idol procs Diurna's Chosen?
Raidbots is telling me to swap my 489 Augury for a 509 Coiled Serpent Idol, but not sure if "Volcanic" damage procs effects based on fire damage.
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/uAdkhEMMjsyjhDYMo8F4iv
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/kRzfenPra6etvgMDzdUVgC
volcanic damage should proc it
pretty sure its hybrid fire/earth
even so tho it doesnt really matter all that much, you have fyralath, helm ench, ashkandur, SF patch
ya Xan what is the name of your warrior
Sounds good. TY
im washed dont look at my logs
:3
me too
i promise i am more washed
if u wanna look at a good warriors logs go look at gajeel-thrall
@obtuse steeple
look at banezi and banezi only
Is onslaught > execute prioritized on ST raid bosses under 35%
think so
why not
one is the cosmetic role that makes u blue and the other is the actual moderator perms
why isn't it just one
basically so that theorycrafters can still be theorycrafter orange and still moderate
I c
or rather u can have the option to have tc also have mod role without losing orange
i just want to to get some info from your logs if you don't mind ofc
why isn't tc the cosmetic one
there is no valuable info to gather from my logs
that u couldnt gather from better players
such modesty 
smh

LOL no way is that Xan ?
you just go to wclogs and type in his discord name
u are son of rat..
it's simple
nobody can find me
chocotwo
what happened to chocone
indeed
chocotwo is now my main
since it got akshandur and itzchocotime didnt
dogshit ass rat character
holy moly
i was rank 1 all stars heroic prot warrior in abberus
bc a ghost gaming alt run
shit was lit
PR :omegalul: T
actually wiped the raid once lol
I rat so hard
gg
whats funny is what is said is true
but its just not what happened
hes upset i went right in brackenhide after first boss
but he confused his lefts and rights?
thought the left way was easier i guess
ive never even considered going left because literally nobody does it
thats why im so confused saying watch any pro player
who is he watching that goes left
son of rat
is that worse than just being a rat
did he not want to go as far as to call u a rat?
much to ponder..

i swear to god, there's something wrong with onslaught and I'm gonna lose my mind. It keeps randomly giving invalid target error in dungeons for several seconds
there is shit wrong with onslaught but never heard that
is enduring dreadplate gonna be hella good in like algethar for example as fury/arms
that thing fucking cranks
cant use a puzzlebox though then
so idk
ya idk, literally the only ability that is having this issue. It's clearly off CD, I'm in range and it's just not fking going off
like this thing is disgusting, 85k uncapped in like a algethar pull, 425000 per mob minimum not accounting for crits/vers scaling
not really an algether exclusive thing, im pretty certain it has a cap of damage it will do
tooltips in wow should never ever be trusted
i think its capped yeah
thats what i meant
i said it in a stupid ass way though
checking a algethar log rq
yeah seems like it has a target cap of 5
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/WygAxHFCzqK18cJV#fight=137&type=damage-done&source=3020&ability=-400986&start=201281588&end=201356126&view=events
sounds right
i remember seeing the waves just disappear early some times
so i guess when it hits max targets the wave just ends
its a little weird somethings though, one time it was 25 hits then the next it was 26
server ticks probably
maybe
it hits twice before server registers it hit once
would be badass though if it was uncapped, the damage isnt split though
might be good on like voti council for example
can afford to run double on use too with puzzle box, can puzzy b then cast the dreadplate after 30 seconds
it would be, MONSTROUSLY op
I get this when I’ve not properly selected a target, just got one via that auto target thing that I should really disable
yeah i think it will be very good on primal council, higher dps groups its around a 2 min 30 second fight kill
ya i'm going to play around with targeting. gotta be something related to that, it's not lag
literally haave no idea if i should get fire ring or maybe augurys, should i just sim?
When in doubt sim it out
Dno i took ring,
How is everyone finding their damage after the buff?
Fucking christ I read this as stop making me hard
god I have been up for too long
Fury good prio damage
hey guys. quick question - whats the 2nd item (after leggo upgrade) should i buy for buillions?
ty ❤️
Fury owns

do you think we'll ever get an update that gives us free riskless aoe like boomers have? im so glad they suck at bosses otherwise id have lost by much more!
no
What trinkets for bullions would You suggest for m+? Most ppl won't use OCE and icon so they are not a choice
I would suggest augury and then farming a puzzle box
i heard puzzle box roots you during activation is that true
if you cast a spell during a boss's aoe interrupt you are silenced, right?
but you're not silenced
you can just not cast t he spell 
i stabbed my middle finger opening a noodle packet with a knife (skizzies are missing) will this affect my gameplay
I’m having trouble doing good dps with fury can anyone help?
you dont have a choice whether to use your on use trinket or not the same way you donthave a choice whether to stop casting on an aoe silence (e.g. RLP final boss/crawth)
if you dont do it you do 0 damage
you can just opt into wasting your trinket slot 
so its not a root
anyway i want it because its the best item
if you have a specific question or a log people can look at it would help
dungeons or raid?
Dungeons
press whirlwind when whirlwind isnt up unless you're fighting 1 guy!
get the weakaura for bt btw
I’m only doing like 150k per dungeon
Ilvl?
508
150k overall?
Ya
Might be
Got 4pc
You're pressing rampage?
Ya
Your gear is not red?
lol
Int weapons?
Nah
You always make sure you have whirlwind buff b4 u press ability in aoe?
It'd really help if you sent through a log and link to your character
no?
you can just dodge whatever youre dealing with and casting a second later for free
Which embelishments do I use this season? Shadowflame?
I made 2 shadowflame
im using 2x bsl
pins
Are you referring to the guide channel?
to the pins in this channel
second to last pin
you got right talents ?
Ya I’ve looked them up
Thanks.
You need these 2 wa : https://wago.io/z8tmG5sHW and https://wago.io/ERUFF1St-
ok, just checking. you're not using annihilator right?
Not for this season
Do you have logs ?
No but I need to get it
okok good, with the overall you're doing i can almost guarantee you're not pressing your cds enough then. whirlwind every 4 globals in more than 1 target(there's some more nuance to this but can work on that later). rampage has prio over everything and just press your cds on cd
I see the pinned messages are talking about an Icon trinket. Which trinket is this?
whispering incarnate icon, concil trinket from vault
Thank you.
Ok fury community I got the weak aura by video for my tier set and I'm confused
It goes up to 150% crit?
And doesn't count the stacks?
u wanna hit bt when u reach 95+%
Right
I was wondering if there was a popular alternative? That maybe shows stacks too?
there is i think
Oh neat
You dont care about the stack amount, simply the crit %
which one could say is the stack amount with conditionals

(just get a crit% tracker instead of making some shit with conditionals pls)
Is there a table of crafted items I should get for fury? Thanks
Fake talent
Let me just stack up blood craze until my 0 stack bt crits
we love BC
(we dont)
The wowhead guide and the pins have recommendations on what to craft
Just play the S3 set?
And grief my damage surely
Actually maybe on smolderon it's worth
Xdd
Us picking an awful set and while FDK picked their best one 👀
Unless you’re a degenerate and liked chill streak being mandatory
Fury did pretty well in s2, so I don’t see how it’s awful
We were promised tuning, but got tuning at home
At least fury got buffed some
Its fine as a set, its just so far behind in ST at the moment
If you didn’t know that was a lie immediately, idk what to tell you
Surv doesn’t even equip the new tier and was untouched in the first round of tuning. They straight up do not give a fuck
Currently I sim 312k with S3 and 318k with S4, I just play S3 
I mean the set got buffs before the season. They at least attempted to tune them, but them not wanting to use the math we already present them is kind of annoying
Mate its currently simming 405k
Buffs were good
405 in BiS which none of us are in
Just like the rest of specs
At equivalent ilvls arms is killing us
isn’t fury like 6th top sim
Yes
Dont be madge
420k Vs 405k is close enough. I am surprised how bad we have been performing in Amirdrasil tho
Expected us to do a lot better in those fights
The more up front burst of s3 build is superior for a lot of the fights
In general the more you can compress your damage, the better you profile is as long as it’s tuned the same as others
Odyns fury slamming every spear set on Igira is pretty hard to match
That’s one of the reasons sub is so good
Also odyns fury slamming roots
Well, as long ppl are having fun playing, all is good in the world
Amird just has a lot of very good opportunity for burst aoe to shine
Which we do not have
Not as much relatively as you did in S3
Unless ur using s3 set like a degenerate
Imagine if our vote did not get botted and we just had a buffed version of S3
Theoretical good times
Ilvl alone would carry it, no buffs needed. Atm buffed S4 is winning by ilvl
Ya some specs got their shit copied and pasted but it’s still great for them
Ilvl is king unless your vote picked something shit
Boomie and Fury is fixed, guess that would be BDK and arguably surv
People seething over which set got picked is what makes me get up in the morning honestly
I don’t think they can fix BDK
I don’t understand why they didn’t try to fix surv tho
Ya just need to bump (4) numbers something silly
It might need (2) bumped as well but ya
Our surv was insisting they use S3 (4) in M+ not 2+2
Maybe they’re brain dead idk
Talking BDKs 
Surv just picked a different DPS profile and can't cope
Soon TWW tho, no more problems or issues
Tank tier sets are weird to be balanced as far as survivability vs dam
Their apparent fix for DK cleave will ensure I keep maining war
They’re just gonna let you keep the cleave buff for a few seconds after leaving death and decay but you still gotta stay in it for max useage
4 sec is better than WW tho 
Which makes pugging keys as a DK a fucking nightmare esp in groups that don’t use voice
Hot reminder that you summon a companion whose death and decay follows him around because he is the source of the corruption
But your own DK cannot do that
Sounds like something you should complain about on the forums
Oh that's stupid
Tbf fury has to stand in spear based on what setup you’re running but raids are more coordinated and it’s easier to know when the tank isn’t about to fuck you over
@dense elbowHello
👋
- Upload logs
- post logs in #449510248579858432
- wait a bit for people to digest it
Upload it, double check it was uploaded correctly, then post in #449510248579858432, write somthing akin of "I am struggling with X, I am wonder why, any help is apprechiated" and then ya wait a bit
dont use it idk
Should do, just do a test run and see if it did or not.
UF, this is basically a continuation of a convo 12 hours ago

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gg, just see it if uploaded the logs. When you know it is working right, do another key, then upload that one
Typical mages amirite?
good way to get flighstones?
i got all DF reps maxed out, done all quests too
emerald dream weeklies, researchers under fire, fyrakk assault
Pvp caches
guess ill wait 2 more weeks
haste/versa are cheap
quite annoying to re-buff every death tho
also that eternal draconic augment rune should last through death
paid 100k
does this apply to m+?
m0
no not m+
ah ok mb
still good imo
im slow
506 m0
I guess ye
should I take the occasional downtime to guarantee bloodthirst crits, or should I just follow the typical fury rotation and bloodthirst when nothing else is available
bt when nothing is available
According to Simulationcraft.org fury ST altough still worse than Arms, its comfortably in the upper half of the table - does it mean Fury is actually better in a lot of fights with adds now?
realistically I would check the 95th percentile of wcl to accurately determine that
since every bossfight is different
I've been getting mixed answering on this one
But the lil icon didn't turn red yet 😭
even ka-ching BT hits like a noodle at only ~220k
it has been the same in S2 also, just use BT without katching
Kaching?
that has been the WA sound in S2 when BT reaches >95% crit
Ahh
the WA in the pins
Ive seen the meow on Biz's stream i think its more responsive than katching tbh
Katching feels like it has a bit of mute sound playing first
ideally you want until the kaching, or weakaura tells you to press it. But, if you end up low on resources and have nothing else to press then just press bloodthirst
I don't listen to it anyway since my sound is very quiet
I have it in the middle of my screen at my UI WA
yeah what happens if you dont is you spam whirlwind until bloodthirst is up and thats uh
very not good lmfao
Fax
what dungeon in S4 are the most forgiving and the least forgiving?
forgiving as in how many times can you wipe and still time it?
in what terms? timer? defensives?
free-est key gotta be BH or AA ya?
yeah timer on av is pretty free
timerwise is definitely AV
last night had a 14 we full wiped on 2 bosses to dumb avoidable shit and still timed
yes, as in which you have the most leeway death/dps wise
av
its also definitely one of the harder dungs specifically for melee
last boss on tyrannical is the hardest part of AV to me
lot of shit to dodge
last night our dh metad into ball on last boss
was pretty silly
that one I actually dont know, my grp hasnt started even thinking about routing yet we just w key every key and brute force time them but now we are doing 14s so we gonna start using brains
can prolly catch some streamer doing a high av soon
can we solo mythic battle of dazar'alor now?
hey guys why the ring better buy before trinket?
The eranog ring is a “very rare” drop, so there’s a higher natural chance you get the trinket out of vault or raid
Unless you mean augury, in which case that’s definitely highest prio
because everybody wants the ring but arms doesnt really care about augury afaik
so if you pick augury you only pick for fury
^that too
I went signet first because i planned on switching back to fury once i got a good second 2 hander, so that worked out
also cant speak for all but the ring just simmed as a higher upgrade for me
Used it quite a bit for arms, now i’ll use it quite a bit for fury
Also am i straight up griefing swapping back to fury
but in the end you're gonna get both anyway, doesnt really matter what you get first unless you're looking for those week 3 parses
wouldve been replacing 496 augury lol, think it was like 1k dps in favor of the ring
yo reading the simc bugfix I'm unsure of something
Depends, do you care about doing the most ST damage in raid, or playing the most optimal spec depending on the context
Or do you simply just want to play what's the most fun for you
arms gaming to just kill the boss faster and let the plebs pad
is it reck > avatar or the other way around?
Doesn't matter
Yeah i’ve been playing arms so far in s4 but i’m worried that even though i’m playing the “most optimal” spec, my relatively limited knowledge of the spec and overall feel is capping my dps well below simmed cap
all 2 of them this expac 
The bug got fixed start of S3
Whereas with fury i’m positive i’ll land in 95th percentile easy
So i’m thinking it’s more of a “i just play fury in anything that’s not purely ST or 2 target” because arms ST rotation is p chill in comparison and execute phase is lit
so the ability crit vs global crit was an in-game bug that has now been shadow fixed or was it a bug in simc?
Across the 3 raids there's a healthy mix
soooo
was off for a week due to work; it looks like buffs didnt do shit for us on ST
anyone ever go for a morning run with weights on their ankles? i did and i hate it
how many stacks do you use blood thirst at?
ofc it did something
only at 10 stacks? im using at 7-8
Depends on ur wa
so you base it on some weird website instead of logs_
?
If it accounts for that
so 31 crit plus 20 from reck means 3 stacks youre at 95%+
well
to be fair u.gg is just statistics
it’s just whether or not the statistics they use are relevant to what information they are showing
yes, that's the thing
fury is 5% behind 2nd worst
gets buffed by 4%
surprised that it's still at the bottom?
where should i look then?
warcraft logs, don't get me wrong. we're still not good in raid, but the buffs did do something. just not alot
it's just taking the data from logs but you dont have to know how to navigate through warcraftlogs to find the info
This
just a raidbots issue
Can you rock 2 asskandies at the same time?
It's unique equip, so no
beat
you can just dont let them meet each other if you catch my drift 😉
i guess fury should climb higher as the season progresses its just in a not too hot spot right now is what im understanding
so my character is dealing like anywhere between 0 and 50 dmg at a time and i cant figure out for the life of me wtf is going on, any1 got an idea? im fully repaired
yes
you're not giving us a lot to work with
for all we know this is a 20 second 5 target sim
i mean
Why would you think signet would be good on 1min LOL
you have a primarily singletarget trinket that has a ~3-4 minute rampup time and you're wondering why it's simming low on a short aoe sim
dont use brand in mythic +
ever
augury/puzzle box are probably bis, i feel like enduring dreadplates could also be good too, lacks a bit on st though
puzzleB isn't actually as huge from what I heard
as you are high on mastery baseline you hit DR immediately once you pop it
depends on what you are replacing
I noticed a difference immediately when I replaced my 496 augury with it
i mean you should hit a DR immediately, if you arent then you have something seriously wrong with your gear
its still pretty good though, i got a 528 one and a 535 augury, shit cranks so hard
i think 528 dreadplates would OWN on fort weeks, gives some survivability and does really good damage and also keeps the mainstat
pb is our best on use trinket, altho if you're particularly high on mastery i can see embersoul being better
I am using hooves rn for the ST gain in m+, especially tyra
hooves are good too
is the magmammoth trinket any good
It's okay but there are a lot better options
All of the dungeon trinkets, bar Puzzle box and to some extent Irideus Fragment, are pretty mediocre/bad
debating switching out OCE for something else in M+ since hardly anyone has one yet
I have hooves and magmammoth as contenders (other slot is new augury)
@young swan is so turned on by this comment
that trinket is absolute garbage, i got a 509 one and it was doing worse than my 489 augury
hooves also good ST for Fury
i'll give the hooves a try. only thing with OCE for now is it helps fill stat imbalances while gearing up
getting so much crit and haste while vers is plummeting
blazebinder takes time to build up, by the time you get the max bonus your ravager is already over
I think my 519 hooves usually does like 3% overall in m+
lol i give up, whole first boss of rlp was an invalid target for onslaught....literally only spell between both specs that is having this problem
rbl?
ruby*
do you have it macro'd with something ? why would a target be invalid
no macro this time
can clearly see it's been an issue for others in the past searching back, but nobody has mentioned a solution
I never encountered that issue
Me neither
I remember it being a problem a really long time ago
I think it was on certain mobs you having to be like super inside their hitbox or something maybe?
I for sure remember it being a thing though
Oh yeah
Right up in there
i've noticed that has helped at times, same with switching targets.....but that boss was the first time it's persisted through an entire encounter
is fury starting to move towards BSL? or still shadowflame?
BSL bis
BBL
BBL DRIZZY
el bbl
shizzles drizzle
Based
Shadowflame evens out around 50% in ST, BSL ahead in multi
I dont have 4p of season 4 set, until now I played with s3 talents
Swapped to this build now, without bt
Good enough until I get 4p?
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/6bdP38UeLdwjt2QrxdBMVW
fellas, anyone else at 520 getting crit/vers recomendations for gems/recraft?

so would it be best to stick to shadowflame for the time being?
If you’re mostly focused on doing M+ probably not
Is it normal 2+2 sims higher (with S3 multi target talents) than new 4 set (with M+ talents)?
All 4 S3 parts Myth track, all 4 S4 parts Hero track
ahh okay, its a mixture at the moment.
On Dungeon Slice that is
RA has been favoured in Dungeon Slice for a long time now, however in practice it's not the case
S4 with full Hero Track is better than S3 Myth Track, especially after the recent buff
Cool, got a bit confused after switching to the new 4 set and seeing a reduction on the sim
Thanks!
do we think it might prefer BSL as the tier goes on, as we get more stats etc
Think later in the season Lariat could become an alternative to BSL
I’m just feelycrafting though
BSL uptime is a non issue atm, but maybe when you’re pushing really high keys it can start to become one
is it reck into avatar or avatar into reck?
How can a rogue get so much damage out of a grieftorch?
My augury did 39m damage in the same run
And yet if I sim the grieftorch its a dps loss
If he was in your key you know who contributed
were people dying a lot?
I mean ur simming it in st innit
Dungeon slice
Outlaw has very high crit chance
so his Grieftorch crits a lot
and I hear there's a bug with grieftorch sometiems doing more damage than intended
apparently it benefits from some fire dmg amp that DHs get too, maybe there's some trickery afoot
Hmm yeah its prob due to him having it crit almost on every use somehow
Does anyone have a SMF M+ & Raid Spec? i tried a lil bit myself but iam not happy with it.
Anyone have an issue where they do like 10 damage to training dummies?
Like I’ve just stopped doing normal damage to training dummies for some reason
its been bugged since yesterday for me
https://bloodmallet.com/chart/warrior/fury/trinkets/castingpatchwerk5
Is Enduring Dreadplate really that good for Fury MT?
any weakaura wizards know if theres a toothless dancing to driftveil bloodlust/other aura its essential for gameplay i assure you
ye its really good
i love how it counts filled groups that arent totally full as cancels when you cancel them because it makes it look like im intentionally removing my application (i am applying as a 2man to groups that fill dps/go 4man and have to manually cancel to apply to others) realistically all of them are actually fill declines which makes it 130 declines/delists total 🙂
yes it does the same damage for prot and fury
originally the trinket was very very niche because the plates would just never break and youd do 0 damage
but now they all break when the trinket expires so you always do the full damage
so trinkets for m+ for fury prot gonna run augury/plate and call it good
booohooo
ur above 10% rate ur chillin
yeah on character
5 invites without tank in group
and tank in group the invite rate was around 40% or higher
ok and whats the novelty here
half an a press is still an a press
5 hour video essay on mario64
all queued with no tank
even the 0s took time and that was just an rlp spam
last 2 weeks ive had basically just 8 dungeons in one day with tank in group this week ive only managed 5 in 4 days
math aint mathin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXbJe-rUNP8 crazy rabbithole
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is blizzard testing their midnight squish or something
I remember the first video essay I watched was about Yanderedev
that mario video starts before i was born dios mio
cum-chalice
PuG Mythic Volc, warrior ftw
current tier set? whats ya ILVL and trinket?
ilvl 518 with Signet[528] and Aug [489]
just look at apply count vs accent count and do the math that way
The cleave dummy’s only have 5.1k health. Its a known bug
🫡
Despair
any1 knows whats the point of reflecting the gulp on frog boss HOI? every time i ask the tank about it they all say "doesnt matter it deals 0 dmg"
doesnt matter 0 damage
so why did biz show it in his reflect vid and was like "if you reflect it NO ONE has to get eaten"
is there even a point to that reflect?
tank can be in it with 0 downsides so im pretty sure its a useless reflect
like, infused strike and dragon strike are at least big tank busters so they alleviate some shit from tank
better to use for dr
Ayo
Who need the weak aura for season 4 tier
It'll show a percentage and a timer timer is how long the buff has percentage is ur crit chance always blow bloodthirst at 95% or higher
Unless u literally don't have another button
im pretty sure getting eatten puts a dot on you, but it literally does no damage, i did it on accident when i missed my SR and it did negative damage to me, 100% better to use it as a DR on that boss instead of using it to get eatten
ait ty
yo how expensive is the legendary weapon to make approximately?
1 mil is what I hear
Haha I have 0 clue
why answer then ??
chadge
Same reason as u it's what I heard thought I'd pass along
Didn't know it was inaccurate
i paid like 220k couple months ago
i mean i personally paid 260k in like week 6-7 and the prices have only gone down
my EU axe I just did was about 190k
my NA axe a month or so ago was like 220 iirc
Both times I did not make the optional handle thing and just gave a healer 5k to pocket me
proving grounds huge for not using expensive elements too
Yup
second wind and d stance was amazing
I forgot I did that on eu warrior
bc @indigo quarry told me
paw
@still swift go to bed
I am in bed
real kings went follower dungeons
go sleep then
@still swiftgo to sleep
no u
phone bad before sleep sleep!!!
I'm busy
considering to get back up to run nyalotha mythic for warrior tmog
Do it tomorrow
what is blud cookin
it's already today
hacking bethesda
angry todd
at ur speeds u could go bed and come back to it almost doen
Tales of Two Wastelands
Combines the two
he's playing fallout 3 new vegas
In NV
and not streaming it cuz he's cringe desu ne
wdym not streaming it
not played the mod but i know
that’s too many brain cell for me, how do you so smart
not streaming it = not streaming it
ye but why would I and who asked for it
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