#fury

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summer quail
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12% uptime

dense elbow
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9 times

restive peak
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Did the key go longer than 27mins?

limber verge
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25mins

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we didnt even do last boss

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tank and heal left

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.

restive peak
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So you used on CD, that's good

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But PB isn't that great for fury

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Too much mastery, we already have like 5k+

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I'm running nokhud/irid frag now

limber verge
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i simmed

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it says blazebinder

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is better

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for aoe

dense elbow
# limber verge tank and heal left

Not to be mean, but I guess key was dead based on DPS.

This is what ya should do, log your next run and record it if possible. Then take that to #449510248579858432

If noone checks it within the next 12h give me a ping and I will do so, but now I am going zzz

limber verge
restive peak
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Ye I'd swap off pb\

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PB BIS for arms, not for us

limber verge
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but I dont think

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pb is the reason

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my dps was that trash

restive peak
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Oh no you're def playing wrong

dense elbow
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Pb is not the reason

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We will need data

restive peak
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But may as well set yourself up for success

limber verge
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next key I will do

dense elbow
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Gl my man

limber verge
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ill try to log

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this is frustrating man

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im not trash at the game

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but

restive peak
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Takes time

limber verge
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i never had something like this

dense elbow
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We all do stupid shit, trust

restive peak
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Brother I sold fyrakk every week, UStop50, and 3 weeks ago I lept into the frontal

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Shit happens

limber verge
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hope ill find a way to fix it

dense elbow
limber verge
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xd

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how do i log

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can u tell me again

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with dbm

restive peak
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We all fuckup, you have to do enough of each key to understand positioning and CD timings etc

limber verge
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how does it work

dense elbow
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Check the box to autolog, make sure to ✅ m+ loging, rest is auto

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Then go go warcraftlogs and download their uploader

limber verge
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its checked

dense elbow
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You want to record trash

limber verge
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oh so

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check the

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do not record trash

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away

dense elbow
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There ya go, after you are done, upload the file to logs, then share the link in #449510248579858432

limber verge
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wheres the file ?

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xd

dense elbow
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Uploader tool will fix that for you

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Warcraftlogs, bottom of the page, download their uploader

limber verge
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done

dense elbow
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Aight happy key, and godspeed. If you feel you plated bad cause nervous, just do another key

limber verge
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well ima sleep now

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but tomorrow

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will try more

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!

tired crag
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hello

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such an ugly icon

hardy cargo
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just looted pb last dng

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so havent played with it at all in s4

marsh kiln
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do i just go in with raid ST talents?

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into tyra keys

modest condor
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if you wanna do healer damage

marsh kiln
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ty

summer quail
marsh kiln
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wrong channel

summer quail
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you don't go full st as arms either

modest condor
marsh kiln
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its honestly not that big of a difference between aoe and st talents

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in terms of ST damage when i sim

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318k vs 377k 2min

gilded pawn
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Bruh that’s 20%

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That’s a lot

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That’s 4 smfs

dense elbow
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No way fury loses that much... wait, he got the metal axe as a profile pic...

It is an arms lad that is lost, huh?

summer quail
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yes

dense elbow
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Sadly the dps lead doesn't make up for the brainpower diff Hydrate

restive peak
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It's argueably BIS for arms M+

restive peak
modest condor
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no that's not why i said that

restive peak
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Cuz you think I'm sexy and wanted to ping me? That's why I pinged you

modest condor
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pb is definitely better than hoof in m+

restive peak
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Hoof ye, nokhud stompy boi though is pumping

modest condor
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that's passive tho, then you dont have an on use

restive peak
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irid frag

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Im rockin nokhud+irid frag now

modest condor
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that one is actually garbage for fury

restive peak
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But I'm doin it Tues, I'm doin the aug

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I got 4 shots at diurna ring, I'll use LFR IDGAF come @ me bro

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I'll do a key w PB+nokhud instead of irid for science

modest condor
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irideous is garbage for fury and trampling hooves is garbage on aoe

restive peak
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Irid simming pretty high for me in multi, idk why

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but I guess fury really doesn't GAF about strength as much

modest condor
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i mean ashes of embersoul is just a better irideous

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maybe you're just low on mastery and that's why irid is simming good for you

restive peak
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I tried, guild was not giving me ashes lol

modest condor
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but the way the trinket works just doesnt fit with fury

restive peak
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It's probably making up for my lack of regemming tbh

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but it's gone Tues anyway for augury so we ball

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If I regem to mastery, surely it makes me replace

thorny peak
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... why does puzzle box still have a cast time

hardy cargo
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now ig I should sim augury vs spiteful storm

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but that trinket doesnt feel bad

gilded pawn
thorny peak
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true.... doesnt mean i gotta like it

quartz viper
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Tbf the cast time on PB is not that bad for what they could have made it. Inconvenient for sure but meh.

modest condor
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it's annoying if you use it mid pull but on pull it just lets your tank get aggro for 1 more second

quartz viper
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I agree

covert blaze
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big

restive peak
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Ye fuckit

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Fury giga fucks, we're reclearing all the raids 1 more time then takin a break anyway

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May as well get fury shit

covert blaze
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idk if im gonna play more arms or more fury so i need to make a decision between icon/oce and augury deadge

restive peak
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Guild voted to do 3 more weeks then just raid once a month til TWW

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Icon/OCE still depend on group having it

marsh kiln
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whats the problem with valdrakken target dummies

restive peak
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Bugged

quartz viper
restive peak
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Take no damdam

hardy cargo
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this is my personal detemining factor between the two

covert blaze
restive peak
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Turn off the oce/icon group setting and sim

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It'll make you sad

covert blaze
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idk i did that and it wasnt super bad

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and from the brief research i did it's likely you get a healer with icon even in pugs

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idk

hardy cargo
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they dont sim terribly for fury

restive peak
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Eventually we'll have them all

hardy cargo
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that too

restive peak
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Augury BIS by far for fury, and not super low for arms

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So gonna run it, eventually get OCE as well, and keep a backup for if noone has OCE

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Ez GG

young swan
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should grab an ashes too

modest condor
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i wanna see some signet brand numbers in m+ tbh

hardy cargo
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alr told u if u manifest mythic augury in my vault ill grab it FingerGuns

young swan
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(I will unironically be purchasing ashes next week)

modest condor
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im buying augury

restive peak
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Ashes gonna be giga I think too

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But cannot wait for augury bro

ashen socket
modest condor
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real

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imagine not picking ward

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gotta help out your local squishy spec player

hardy cargo
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bold of you to presume I use my monitor enough to know when others will take dam

sour tundra
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what slots and embellishments should fury make?

cobalt crypt
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guys

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is possible to receive trinket from hardmode in vault?

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ilvl mthic

upbeat sentinel
covert blaze
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not at all

steep fable
# sour tundra what slots and embellishments should fury make?

Don't fall for that blue silken lining sim bait. Getting uptime on them as melee is a pipe dream. Any guide that tells you BSL either doesn;t actually play the spec or run exclusively in pre-mades and has a pocket healer with CONSTANT HOTs on them.
Now for the real stuff:
#1: Allied wristguards are a solid all-content choice (because fury is stacking vers now)
#2: Shadowflame armor patch will help with single target and provide procs for your eranog ring
Then, third embellishment could be another shadowflame patch and you can run double patches in raid as an option
Or, frostfire legguards of preparation are really strong for m+
Then, for your 5th embellishment, try blue silken lining, look at your logs and you can hear me whispering in your ear "told you so" 😛

sour tundra
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thanks!

half cargo
sour tundra
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oh!

half cargo
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Shadowflame is worthless on aoe, and the haste legs needs very specific scenarios to work

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Blue silken lining doesn’t even need high uptime to blast, and it pumps in both aoe and single target

dim meadow
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My Blue Silken works perfectly fine. I play mostly pugs for M+ and it has little down time. We have decent self heals to keep it up too.

half cargo
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To be fair, vers wrists is a good suggestion, my gripe was with the rest

dim meadow
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Verse wrist changed my life ngl

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Overall how ppl feeling about Fury?

blissful kestrel
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Good in keys bad compared to arms in raid unless U actually get to aoe

dim meadow
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Still pretty good in St but arms usually rocks st fights. Play what you want it’s a fun season

steep fable
sour tundra
half cargo
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Send a personal order to someone you trust

steep fable
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Post the request in trade chat to find someone specific

half cargo
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Public tends to always screw you over with a lower ilvl craft

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Trade chat or guildees are safe routes

modest condor
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in a +13 today i had 81% uptime on bsl

sour tundra
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NA

sinful spoke
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What server

sour tundra
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Area-52

sinful spoke
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Good

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Send the order to cheche

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Ill make it for u

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Wont be today cuz im in bed already but tomorrow i can after work

ashen socket
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Man if I could dual wield these

half cargo
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Remember when they baited us with the quest item in time rifts?

ashen socket
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Ok so maybe yall will hard disagree with me on this but hear me out

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If you have an artifact appearance on an alt you should be able to use it on any of your characters that can tmog that weapon type

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Thoughts?

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Like dual wielding the dk artifact weapons

half cargo
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Inclined to disagree just on lore/identity purposes

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Then again, everyone wields a gorehowl now

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So maybe they should just send that idea

ashen socket
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I think it would be cool for the game

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Leaves more options for tmog and sorta promotes having alts so you can have more tmog for your main

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Or you make it where everyone can wear the tier of their armor type

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Being able to wear the dk and pally set from nighthold is sick and I wish they did it more

half cargo
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Ngl, I’d be annoyed seeing paladins or dks in the tomb set

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That set is just iconic for warrior

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The black version at least

ashen socket
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I mean you can have certain ones off limits but like

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I think the majority should be available

half cargo
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Think all or nothing would be best

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Otherwise people will be pissed at specific ones not being available

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Would also be a hassle to decide which ones make the cut

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Where do you draw the line?

ashen socket
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Hard to say

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I would be fine with all

half cargo
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Imagine a rogue with antlers

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Or a hunter with totems strapped on his back

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Plate is fairly interchangeable amongst classes but leather and mail ones could be really jarring

hazy warren
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fury gives me carpal tunnel help me

young swan
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get better posture

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stop mashing so hard

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stretch fingers and wrist regularly

fast crest
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is diurna's mainly good for ST?

young swan
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its good always but yeah its value diminishes in aoe

fast crest
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debating that vs augury

young swan
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thats gonna be more of a question of how good your trinkets are now

fast crest
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i'm still using old augury (489) and got a heroic OCE. also have a few random trinkets I haven't tried out yet - dragon games, magmammoth scale, trampling hooves

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i've just been mindlessly blasting through 8-9 keys lol

young swan
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hooves can definitely work for a bit

fast crest
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still in S3 tier

young swan
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the big thing with the ring is that its literally always a 1-2% dps gain (cant remember the number) because its stat value isnt dimished for having the damage proc

fast crest
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i do like the versatility

young swan
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at the end of the day it really just doesnt matter all that much cause ur getting both no matter what

fast crest
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other thought is that it'll be 3 weeks until amirdrassil is back on rotation

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and next week is vault raid

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guess can't really go wrong but i'd be slapping myself if i luck out on a ring lol

young swan
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i mean u got 3 bullion this week, what did u spend the 2 on

fast crest
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nothing yet

young swan
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well u get another next week

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so just get both?

fast crest
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yeah i might just sit on them until tuesday

young swan
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well just buy the augury now

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theres no reason not to

fast crest
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oh yes good point

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thanks for helping me convince myself

young swan
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np

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have fun with your new toy

fast crest
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more like a new coat of paint but hope its at least noticeable 😄

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wow 525 vs 489 augury is an extra 90k damage on the tooltip, almost 50% more

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290k vs 200k

normal yoke
young swan
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volcanic damage should proc it

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pretty sure its hybrid fire/earth

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even so tho it doesnt really matter all that much, you have fyralath, helm ench, ashkandur, SF patch

obtuse steeple
normal yoke
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Sounds good. TY

young swan
buoyant salmon
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real

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:3

young swan
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:3

buoyant salmon
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me too

young swan
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i promise i am more washed

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if u wanna look at a good warriors logs go look at gajeel-thrall

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@obtuse steeple

still swift
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look at banezi and banezi only

young swan
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gajeel goated

buoyant salmon
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not to flex but i had a 100 on gnarlroot last season

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most ethical gamer around

random raptor
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Is onslaught > execute prioritized on ST raid bosses under 35%

young swan
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think so

still swift
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"think so"
-blue name

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xan?

young swan
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whats up

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there was some weird conditionals back in s2

still swift
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why are there 2 vslkyr role

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1 mod 1 not

buoyant salmon
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why not

young swan
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one is the cosmetic role that makes u blue and the other is the actual moderator perms

still swift
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why isn't it just one

young swan
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basically so that theorycrafters can still be theorycrafter orange and still moderate

still swift
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I c

young swan
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or rather u can have the option to have tc also have mod role without losing orange

obtuse steeple
still swift
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why isn't tc the cosmetic one

young swan
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that u couldnt gather from better players

obtuse steeple
young swan
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not modesty...

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just honesty..

young swan
obtuse steeple
still swift
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you just go to wclogs and type in his discord name

buoyant salmon
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u are son of rat..

still swift
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it's simple

young swan
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yeah its not hard to find me

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i use the same name for everything

buoyant salmon
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nobody can find me

young swan
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chocotwo

still swift
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what happened to chocone

young swan
buoyant salmon
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chocotwo is now my main

young swan
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like i said

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washed

buoyant salmon
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since it got akshandur and itzchocotime didnt

young swan
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used to be good..

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2 expansions ago..

buoyant salmon
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dogshit ass rat character

still swift
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not to brag

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but I got rank 1 normal voti

young swan
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holy moly

buoyant salmon
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i was rank 1 all stars heroic prot warrior in abberus

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bc a ghost gaming alt run

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shit was lit

still swift
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PR :omegalul: T

buoyant salmon
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actually wiped the raid once lol

still swift
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ok so what's the lore in this disc

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is choco Griffs son

buoyant salmon
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maybe

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wait what does that even mean

still swift
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@runic pine griff is the rattiest rat

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and you're son of rat

runic pine
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I rat so hard

still swift
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so I wonder

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are u griff son

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cuz else which other rat son are you

buoyant salmon
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oh

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idk dude

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i need to find the screenshot

still swift
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you don't know your dad?

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Man

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I'm sorry

buoyant salmon
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my goat

still swift
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gg

buoyant salmon
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whats funny is what is said is true

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but its just not what happened

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hes upset i went right in brackenhide after first boss

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but he confused his lefts and rights?

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thought the left way was easier i guess

still swift
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left chunks

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as well

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and it's so awkward to run to tree

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but no totem is nice

buoyant salmon
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ive never even considered going left because literally nobody does it

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thats why im so confused saying watch any pro player

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who is he watching that goes left

young swan
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son of rat

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is that worse than just being a rat

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did he not want to go as far as to call u a rat?

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much to ponder..

buoyant salmon
graceful bay
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i swear to god, there's something wrong with onslaught and I'm gonna lose my mind. It keeps randomly giving invalid target error in dungeons for several seconds

buoyant salmon
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there is shit wrong with onslaught but never heard that

compact knot
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is enduring dreadplate gonna be hella good in like algethar for example as fury/arms

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that thing fucking cranks

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cant use a puzzlebox though then

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so idk

graceful bay
compact knot
buoyant salmon
compact knot
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it doesnt say that it splits it

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target cap maybe?

buoyant salmon
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tooltips in wow should never ever be trusted

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i think its capped yeah

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thats what i meant

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i said it in a stupid ass way though

compact knot
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checking a algethar log rq

buoyant salmon
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sounds right

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i remember seeing the waves just disappear early some times

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so i guess when it hits max targets the wave just ends

compact knot
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its a little weird somethings though, one time it was 25 hits then the next it was 26

buoyant salmon
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server ticks probably

compact knot
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maybe

buoyant salmon
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it hits twice before server registers it hit once

compact knot
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would be badass though if it was uncapped, the damage isnt split though

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might be good on like voti council for example

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can afford to run double on use too with puzzle box, can puzzy b then cast the dreadplate after 30 seconds

buoyant salmon
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it would be, MONSTROUSLY op

compact knot
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yeah u right

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still would be fun though

buoyant salmon
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it would be fun but like

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every single player would use it

tall turret
compact knot
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yeah i think it will be very good on primal council, higher dps groups its around a 2 min 30 second fight kill

graceful bay
quiet python
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literally haave no idea if i should get fire ring or maybe augurys, should i just sim?

mental rune
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When in doubt sim it out

fading sky
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Dno i took ring,

neat coral
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How is everyone finding their damage after the buff?

ashen socket
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god I have been up for too long

tardy lark
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Fury good prio damage

digital sphinx
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hey guys. quick question - whats the 2nd item (after leggo upgrade) should i buy for buillions?

digital sphinx
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ty ❤️

south kayak
tardy lark
sullen basin
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do you think we'll ever get an update that gives us free riskless aoe like boomers have? im so glad they suck at bosses otherwise id have lost by much more!

chrome plover
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no

sullen basin
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😦

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what if ravager was just like starfall and was good instead of bad

tall surge
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What trinkets for bullions would You suggest for m+? Most ppl won't use OCE and icon so they are not a choice

chrome plover
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I would suggest augury and then farming a puzzle box

sullen basin
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i heard puzzle box roots you during activation is that true

chrome plover
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no

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it's a normal cast

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interrupted by movement but it doesnt root you

sullen basin
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okay so it roots you then

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if you cant move you're rooted casting it

chrome plover
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well no

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you can move so you arent rooted

sullen basin
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if you cast a spell during a boss's aoe interrupt you are silenced, right?

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but you're not silenced

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you can just not cast t he spell clueless

chrome plover
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if it silences you

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then you are silenced

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what?

sullen basin
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just dont cast?

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oh hey look its the same thing

chrome plover
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well no, it's not

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in one you have a choice, in the other you dont

sullen basin
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i stabbed my middle finger opening a noodle packet with a knife (skizzies are missing) will this affect my gameplay

rough cape
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I’m having trouble doing good dps with fury can anyone help?

sullen basin
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you dont have a choice whether to use your on use trinket or not the same way you donthave a choice whether to stop casting on an aoe silence (e.g. RLP final boss/crawth)

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if you dont do it you do 0 damage

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you can just opt into wasting your trinket slot clueless

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so its not a root

chrome plover
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ur an idiot actually

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dw about it

sullen basin
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anyway i want it because its the best item

chrome plover
sullen basin
rough cape
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Dungeons

sullen basin
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press whirlwind when whirlwind isnt up unless you're fighting 1 guy!

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get the weakaura for bt btw

rough cape
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I’m only doing like 150k per dungeon

icy topaz
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Ilvl?

rough cape
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508

icy topaz
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150k overall?

rough cape
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Ya

icy topaz
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Oof

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Aint good

random raptor
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Talents issue?

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4pc not equipped?

icy topaz
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Might be

rough cape
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Got 4pc

random raptor
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You're pressing rampage?

rough cape
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Ya

fair star
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Your gear is not red?

rough cape
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lol

icy topaz
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Int weapons?

rough cape
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Nah

fair star
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You always make sure you have whirlwind buff b4 u press ability in aoe?

random raptor
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It'd really help if you sent through a log and link to your character

covert blaze
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you can just dodge whatever youre dealing with and casting a second later for free

hollow cradle
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Which embelishments do I use this season? Shadowflame?

outer cedar
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I made 2 shadowflame

random raptor
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im using 2x bsl

hollow cradle
covert blaze
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second to last pin

inner harbor
rough cape
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Ya I’ve looked them up

hollow cradle
inner harbor
summer quail
rough cape
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Not for this season

inner harbor
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Do you have logs ?

rough cape
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No but I need to get it

summer quail
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okok good, with the overall you're doing i can almost guarantee you're not pressing your cds enough then. whirlwind every 4 globals in more than 1 target(there's some more nuance to this but can work on that later). rampage has prio over everything and just press your cds on cd

rough cape
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Ok

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Prob right about cds

hollow cradle
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I see the pinned messages are talking about an Icon trinket. Which trinket is this?

summer quail
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whispering incarnate icon, concil trinket from vault

hollow cradle
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Thank you.

final zenith
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Ok fury community I got the weak aura by video for my tier set and I'm confused

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It goes up to 150% crit?

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And doesn't count the stacks?

inner harbor
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u wanna hit bt when u reach 95+%

final zenith
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I was wondering if there was a popular alternative? That maybe shows stacks too?

inner harbor
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there is i think

final zenith
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Oh neat

oblique trail
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You dont care about the stack amount, simply the crit %

clever belfry
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(just get a crit% tracker instead of making some shit with conditionals pls)

eternal sundial
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Im using the stack shit cuz cba

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Hate % hate fury

clever belfry
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i mean the one i made doesnt track bloodcraze

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but like

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idc

digital sphinx
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Is there a table of crafted items I should get for fury? Thanks

eternal sundial
oblique trail
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Let me just stack up blood craze until my 0 stack bt crits

clever belfry
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(we dont)

oblique trail
eternal sundial
#

I miss s3 set

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I wanna have non fake burst Madge

dense elbow
#

Just play the S3 set?

eternal sundial
#

Actually maybe on smolderon it's worth

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Xdd

upbeat sentinel
#

Us picking an awful set and while FDK picked their best one 👀

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Unless you’re a degenerate and liked chill streak being mandatory

tardy lark
#

Fury did pretty well in s2, so I don’t see how it’s awful

#

We were promised tuning, but got tuning at home

#

At least fury got buffed some

exotic cradle
#

Its fine as a set, its just so far behind in ST at the moment

upbeat sentinel
#

Surv doesn’t even equip the new tier and was untouched in the first round of tuning. They straight up do not give a fuck

dense elbow
tardy lark
tardy lark
#

Buffs were good

upbeat sentinel
#

405 in BiS which none of us are in

tardy lark
upbeat sentinel
#

At equivalent ilvls arms is killing us

tardy lark
#

So is devastation

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Like what are you even complaining about lol

barren dagger
#

isn’t fury like 6th top sim

tardy lark
#

Yes

barren dagger
#

Dont be madge

tardy lark
#

“But it’s in bis gear” ragey

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Oh so like every other sim okayge

dense elbow
#

420k Vs 405k is close enough. I am surprised how bad we have been performing in Amirdrasil tho

#

Expected us to do a lot better in those fights

tardy lark
#

The more up front burst of s3 build is superior for a lot of the fights

#

In general the more you can compress your damage, the better you profile is as long as it’s tuned the same as others

upbeat sentinel
tardy lark
#

That’s one of the reasons sub is so good

upbeat sentinel
#

Also odyns fury slamming roots

dense elbow
#

Well, as long ppl are having fun playing, all is good in the world

upbeat sentinel
#

Amird just has a lot of very good opportunity for burst aoe to shine

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Which we do not have

dense elbow
#

I burst AoE, I don't know about you tho

#

OF goes burrrrr

upbeat sentinel
#

Not as much relatively as you did in S3

#

Unless ur using s3 set like a degenerate

dense elbow
#

OF goes burrrrr

#

508, fighting the 522 lads on the meters. S3 is still in it gladge

upbeat sentinel
#

Imagine if our vote did not get botted and we just had a buffed version of S3

#

Theoretical good times

dense elbow
#

Ilvl alone would carry it, no buffs needed. Atm buffed S4 is winning by ilvl

barren dagger
#

🧢

#

S2 fury was just fine

#

In m+

dense elbow
#

It is fun too

#

S3 just hits different in raid and m+

upbeat sentinel
#

Ilvl is king unless your vote picked something shit

dense elbow
#

Boomie and Fury is fixed, guess that would be BDK and arguably surv

tardy lark
#

People seething over which set got picked is what makes me get up in the morning honestly

upbeat sentinel
#

I don’t think they can fix BDK

#

I don’t understand why they didn’t try to fix surv tho

dense elbow
#

Ya just need to bump (4) numbers something silly

upbeat sentinel
#

It might need (2) bumped as well but ya

dense elbow
#

No... that would just help 2+2

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You want to fix that

#

So (4) is what you buff

upbeat sentinel
#

Our surv was insisting they use S3 (4) in M+ not 2+2

#

Maybe they’re brain dead idk

dense elbow
#

Talking BDKs peepostudy

upbeat sentinel
#

Oh I was talking surv

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Lmao

dense elbow
#

Surv just picked a different DPS profile and can't cope

#

Soon TWW tho, no more problems or issues

upbeat sentinel
#

Tank tier sets are weird to be balanced as far as survivability vs dam

upbeat sentinel
upbeat sentinel
# final zenith Oh?

They’re just gonna let you keep the cleave buff for a few seconds after leaving death and decay but you still gotta stay in it for max useage

dense elbow
#

4 sec is better than WW tho peepostudy

upbeat sentinel
#

Which makes pugging keys as a DK a fucking nightmare esp in groups that don’t use voice

#

Hot reminder that you summon a companion whose death and decay follows him around because he is the source of the corruption

#

But your own DK cannot do that

dense elbow
#

Sounds like something you should complain about on the forums

upbeat sentinel
#

Tbf fury has to stand in spear based on what setup you’re running but raids are more coordinated and it’s easier to know when the tank isn’t about to fuck you over

limber verge
#

@dense elbowHello

dense elbow
limber verge
#

do I have to do anything else?

dense elbow
#

Upload it, double check it was uploaded correctly, then post in #449510248579858432, write somthing akin of "I am struggling with X, I am wonder why, any help is apprechiated" and then ya wait a bit

eternal sundial
#

do /combatlog ingame - also have advaned logging on

#

innit

limber verge
#

wont my dbm

#

log it

#

automatically

#

now ?

eternal sundial
#

dont use it idk

dense elbow
#

Should do, just do a test run and see if it did or not.

UF, this is basically a continuation of a convo 12 hours ago

limber verge
#

fr

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mb gang

limber verge
#

the key got depleted

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mage left

#

g

#

g

dense elbow
#

gg, just see it if uploaded the logs. When you know it is working right, do another key, then upload that one

limber verge
#

idk if it worked

final zenith
#

Typical mages amirite?

limber verge
#

fr

#

guys

#

what do I have to do now?

marsh kiln
#

good way to get flighstones?

marsh kiln
#

i got all DF reps maxed out, done all quests too

covert blaze
final zenith
marsh kiln
#

can i craft

#

boots with shadowflame embellishement + well fed?

#

or only

#

1

unreal onyx
#

only 1

#

you need a 3rd crafted piece for flavour pocket if you want 2 embell ones

marsh kiln
#

guess ill wait 2 more weeks

#

haste/versa are cheap

#

quite annoying to re-buff every death tho

#

also that eternal draconic augment rune should last through death

#

paid 100k

chrome plover
#

bind it to battle shout 👍

#

have to press that when you die anyway

marsh kiln
#

ahh ye

#

ty

serene charm
#

does this apply to m+?

marsh kiln
#

m0

chrome plover
#

no not m+

serene charm
#

ah ok mb

marsh kiln
#

still good imo

serene charm
#

im slow

marsh kiln
#

506 m0

serene charm
#

I guess ye

marsh kiln
#

fucking

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AA

#

didnt drop pbox

#

sad

#

ill have 50% crit soon lol

crisp coral
#

should I take the occasional downtime to guarantee bloodthirst crits, or should I just follow the typical fury rotation and bloodthirst when nothing else is available

summer quail
#

bt when nothing is available

cloud shale
#

According to Simulationcraft.org fury ST altough still worse than Arms, its comfortably in the upper half of the table - does it mean Fury is actually better in a lot of fights with adds now?

unreal onyx
#

realistically I would check the 95th percentile of wcl to accurately determine that

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since every bossfight is different

final zenith
unreal onyx
#

I send bt when nothing is available

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bc I am NOT gonna just spam WW

final zenith
#

But the lil icon didn't turn red yet 😭

unreal onyx
#

even ka-ching BT hits like a noodle at only ~220k

cloud shale
#

it has been the same in S2 also, just use BT without katching

final zenith
#

Kaching?

cloud shale
#

that has been the WA sound in S2 when BT reaches >95% crit

final zenith
#

Ahh

unreal onyx
#

the WA in the pins

final zenith
#

I got one already I think it meows

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I always turn sound off those anyways

cloud shale
#

Ive seen the meow on Biz's stream i think its more responsive than katching tbh

#

Katching feels like it has a bit of mute sound playing first

hardy cargo
unreal onyx
#

I don't listen to it anyway since my sound is very quiet

#

I have it in the middle of my screen at my UI WA

final zenith
#

Thanks for clarifying

#

Felt weird not pressing it sometimes

hardy cargo
#

yeah what happens if you dont is you spam whirlwind until bloodthirst is up and thats uh

#

very not good lmfao

final zenith
#

Fax

unreal onyx
#

what dungeon in S4 are the most forgiving and the least forgiving?

modest condor
#

forgiving as in how many times can you wipe and still time it?

hardy cargo
#

in what terms? timer? defensives?

barren dagger
#

gotta say AV is msot forgiving

#

uldaman is tight

left perch
#

free-est key gotta be BH or AA ya?

barren dagger
#

AV is free

#

timer free af

hardy cargo
#

yeah timer on av is pretty free

modest condor
#

timerwise is definitely AV

hardy cargo
#

last night had a 14 we full wiped on 2 bosses to dumb avoidable shit and still timed

unreal onyx
hardy cargo
#

av

unreal onyx
#

man

#

I hate AV sadge

hardy cargo
#

its also definitely one of the harder dungs specifically for melee

barren dagger
#

last boss on tyrannical is the hardest part of AV to me

hardy cargo
#

lot of shit to dodge

barren dagger
#

for melee its a cancer dungeon all in all

#

so many swirlies

hardy cargo
#

last night our dh metad into ball on last boss keks was pretty silly

barren dagger
#

do people pull trrash onto second boss

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or was that just my pepega tank

hardy cargo
#

that one I actually dont know, my grp hasnt started even thinking about routing yet we just w key every key and brute force time them but now we are doing 14s so we gonna start using brains

#

can prolly catch some streamer doing a high av soon

sour tundra
#

can we solo mythic battle of dazar'alor now?

real gust
#

hey guys why the ring better buy before trinket?

brazen island
#

The eranog ring is a “very rare” drop, so there’s a higher natural chance you get the trinket out of vault or raid

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Unless you mean augury, in which case that’s definitely highest prio

modest condor
#

because everybody wants the ring but arms doesnt really care about augury afaik

#

so if you pick augury you only pick for fury

brazen island
#

^that too

#

I went signet first because i planned on switching back to fury once i got a good second 2 hander, so that worked out

hardy cargo
#

also cant speak for all but the ring just simmed as a higher upgrade for me

brazen island
#

Used it quite a bit for arms, now i’ll use it quite a bit for fury

modest condor
#

for me they simmed equal upgrades

#

just depends on what you're replacing

brazen island
#

Also am i straight up griefing swapping back to fury

modest condor
#

but in the end you're gonna get both anyway, doesnt really matter what you get first unless you're looking for those week 3 parses

hardy cargo
#

wouldve been replacing 496 augury lol, think it was like 1k dps in favor of the ring

meager void
#

yo reading the simc bugfix I'm unsure of something

oblique trail
#

Or do you simply just want to play what's the most fun for you

restive peak
#

Learn both, play arms on ST fights, play fury on add fights

#

YOLO

tight igloo
#

arms gaming to just kill the boss faster and let the plebs pad

brave karma
#

is it reck > avatar or the other way around?

oblique trail
#

Doesn't matter

brazen island
#

Yeah i’ve been playing arms so far in s4 but i’m worried that even though i’m playing the “most optimal” spec, my relatively limited knowledge of the spec and overall feel is capping my dps well below simmed cap

left perch
oblique trail
#

The bug got fixed start of S3

brazen island
#

Whereas with fury i’m positive i’ll land in 95th percentile easy

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So i’m thinking it’s more of a “i just play fury in anything that’s not purely ST or 2 target” because arms ST rotation is p chill in comparison and execute phase is lit

tight igloo
#

s4 doesnt matter just do whats most fun to you

#

its just tww waiting room

meager void
restive peak
main merlin
#

soooo

#

was off for a week due to work; it looks like buffs didnt do shit for us on ST

humble plover
#

anyone ever go for a morning run with weights on their ankles? i did and i hate it

hushed ore
#

how many stacks do you use blood thirst at?

hushed ore
#

only at 10 stacks? im using at 7-8

humble plover
#

95%+ crit chance

#

so like 4

main merlin
#

based on u.gg we are at like 25/26 on dps

hushed ore
#

i have 31 % built in, so i should be fine at 70?

#

crit 31% stat

final zenith
#

Depends on ur wa

summer quail
#

?

final zenith
#

If it accounts for that

humble plover
#

so 31 crit plus 20 from reck means 3 stacks youre at 95%+

buoyant salmon
#

to be fair u.gg is just statistics

final zenith
#

It's like murloc io

#

They just take data and put it somewhere

buoyant salmon
#

it’s just whether or not the statistics they use are relevant to what information they are showing

modest condor
#

fury is 5% behind 2nd worst

#

gets buffed by 4%

#

surprised that it's still at the bottom?

main merlin
#

where should i look then?

modest condor
#

u.gg is fine for what you were trying to look up

summer quail
#

warcraft logs, don't get me wrong. we're still not good in raid, but the buffs did do something. just not alot

modest condor
#

it's just taking the data from logs but you dont have to know how to navigate through warcraftlogs to find the info

late escarp
#

Can you rock 2 asskandies at the same time?

oblique trail
#

It's unique equip, so no

late escarp
#

beat

humble plover
#

you can just dont let them meet each other if you catch my drift 😉

main merlin
#

i guess fury should climb higher as the season progresses its just in a not too hot spot right now is what im understanding

frosty scroll
#

so my character is dealing like anywhere between 0 and 50 dmg at a time and i cant figure out for the life of me wtf is going on, any1 got an idea? im fully repaired

shell parcel
#

you mean like this?

frosty scroll
#

yes

shell parcel
#

bug with the dummies

#

try hitting the animated one in the back

frosty scroll
#

oh dang ait

#

i c

#

was about to tweak, tf

winged sail
#

How that cataclysmic sims lower

#

its 509ilvl other twos are 496

modest condor
#

you're not giving us a lot to work with

#

for all we know this is a 20 second 5 target sim

winged sail
#

its 1minute 5pw

#

what to change

modest condor
#

i mean

restive peak
#

Why would you think signet would be good on 1min LOL

modest condor
#

you have a primarily singletarget trinket that has a ~3-4 minute rampup time and you're wondering why it's simming low on a short aoe sim

winged sail
#

ahh

#

I got it

#

xd

compact knot
#

dont use brand in mythic +

#

ever

#

augury/puzzle box are probably bis, i feel like enduring dreadplates could also be good too, lacks a bit on st though

unreal onyx
#

puzzleB isn't actually as huge from what I heard

#

as you are high on mastery baseline you hit DR immediately once you pop it

hardy cargo
#

depends on what you are replacing

#

I noticed a difference immediately when I replaced my 496 augury with it

compact knot
#

i mean you should hit a DR immediately, if you arent then you have something seriously wrong with your gear

#

its still pretty good though, i got a 528 one and a 535 augury, shit cranks so hard

#

i think 528 dreadplates would OWN on fort weeks, gives some survivability and does really good damage and also keeps the mainstat

modest condor
#

pb is our best on use trinket, altho if you're particularly high on mastery i can see embersoul being better

unreal onyx
#

I am using hooves rn for the ST gain in m+, especially tyra

compact knot
#

hooves are good too

fast crest
#

is the magmammoth trinket any good

oblique trail
#

It's okay but there are a lot better options

#

All of the dungeon trinkets, bar Puzzle box and to some extent Irideus Fragment, are pretty mediocre/bad

fast crest
#

debating switching out OCE for something else in M+ since hardly anyone has one yet
I have hooves and magmammoth as contenders (other slot is new augury)

restive peak
modest condor
compact knot
#

blazebinder might not be shit either

#

but puzzy b clears

edgy widget
#

hooves also good ST for Fury

fast crest
#

i'll give the hooves a try. only thing with OCE for now is it helps fill stat imbalances while gearing up

#

getting so much crit and haste while vers is plummeting

modest condor
#

blazebinder takes time to build up, by the time you get the max bonus your ravager is already over

unreal onyx
#

I think my 519 hooves usually does like 3% overall in m+

graceful bay
#

lol i give up, whole first boss of rlp was an invalid target for onslaught....literally only spell between both specs that is having this problem

unreal onyx
#

rbl?

graceful bay
#

ruby*

fast crest
#

do you have it macro'd with something ? why would a target be invalid

graceful bay
#

no macro this time

#

can clearly see it's been an issue for others in the past searching back, but nobody has mentioned a solution

unreal onyx
#

I never encountered that issue

final zenith
silent burrow
#

I remember it being a problem a really long time ago

#

I think it was on certain mobs you having to be like super inside their hitbox or something maybe?

#

I for sure remember it being a thing though

graceful bay
exotic cradle
#

is fury starting to move towards BSL? or still shadowflame?

left perch
#

BSL bis

silent burrow
#

BBL

dapper goblet
#

BBL DRIZZY

rigid stirrup
#

el bbl

clever belfry
#

shizzles drizzle

final zenith
edgy widget
strong swan
#

I dont have 4p of season 4 set, until now I played with s3 talents

#

Swapped to this build now, without bt

#

Good enough until I get 4p?

meager void
sullen basin
compact knot
#

dude bsl is a 4% dps increase

#

gawd damn

#

1 single bsl

exotic cradle
edgy widget
#

If you’re mostly focused on doing M+ probably not

misty yoke
#

Is it normal 2+2 sims higher (with S3 multi target talents) than new 4 set (with M+ talents)?

#

All 4 S3 parts Myth track, all 4 S4 parts Hero track

exotic cradle
misty yoke
#

On Dungeon Slice that is

oblique trail
#

RA has been favoured in Dungeon Slice for a long time now, however in practice it's not the case

#

S4 with full Hero Track is better than S3 Myth Track, especially after the recent buff

misty yoke
#

Cool, got a bit confused after switching to the new 4 set and seeing a reduction on the sim

#

Thanks!

exotic cradle
half cargo
#

Think later in the season Lariat could become an alternative to BSL

#

I’m just feelycrafting though

#

BSL uptime is a non issue atm, but maybe when you’re pushing really high keys it can start to become one

eternal sundial
#

On fury BSL feels a bit less coolio

#

Cuz no IP

brave karma
#

is it reck into avatar or avatar into reck?

eternal sundial
#

Doesnt matter

#

Bug has been fixed

supple tangle
#

How can a rogue get so much damage out of a grieftorch?

#

My augury did 39m damage in the same run

#

And yet if I sim the grieftorch its a dps loss

eternal sundial
#

If he was in your key you know who contributed

covert coyote
#

were people dying a lot?

supple tangle
#

Nope 2 deaths overall

#

An 11 BH

eternal sundial
#

I mean ur simming it in st innit

supple tangle
#

Dungeon slice

eternal sundial
#

It does cleave

#

Vers class moment wcyd

south kayak
#

Outlaw has very high crit chance

#

so his Grieftorch crits a lot

#

and I hear there's a bug with grieftorch sometiems doing more damage than intended

covert coyote
#

apparently it benefits from some fire dmg amp that DHs get too, maybe there's some trickery afoot

supple tangle
#

Hmm yeah its prob due to him having it crit almost on every use somehow

tribal sable
#

Does anyone have a SMF M+ & Raid Spec? i tried a lil bit myself but iam not happy with it.

signal falcon
#

Anyone have an issue where they do like 10 damage to training dummies?

#

Like I’ve just stopped doing normal damage to training dummies for some reason

sage smelt
sullen basin
#

any weakaura wizards know if theres a toothless dancing to driftveil bloodlust/other aura its essential for gameplay i assure you

warm crag
#

ye its really good

sullen basin
#

i love how it counts filled groups that arent totally full as cancels when you cancel them because it makes it look like im intentionally removing my application (i am applying as a 2man to groups that fill dps/go 4man and have to manually cancel to apply to others) realistically all of them are actually fill declines which makes it 130 declines/delists total 🙂

buoyant salmon
#

originally the trinket was very very niche because the plates would just never break and youd do 0 damage

#

but now they all break when the trinket expires so you always do the full damage

sage smelt
#

so trinkets for m+ for fury prot gonna run augury/plate and call it good

eternal sundial
#

ur above 10% rate ur chillin

sullen basin
#

5 invites without tank in group

#

and tank in group the invite rate was around 40% or higher

eternal sundial
#

ok and whats the novelty here

sullen basin
#

half an a press is still an a press

eternal sundial
#

weird 5 hour video essay on mario64

sullen basin
#

all queued with no tank deadge even the 0s took time and that was just an rlp spam

#

last 2 weeks ive had basically just 8 dungeons in one day with tank in group this week ive only managed 5 in 4 days peepologs math aint mathin

sullen basin
#

is blizzard testing their midnight squish or something

sick viper
#

I remember the first video essay I watched was about Yanderedev

sullen basin
#

that mario video starts before i was born dios mio

sick viper
#

cum-chalice

drowsy heron
#

PuG Mythic Volc, warrior ftw

rocky wharf
drowsy heron
#

ilvl 518 with Signet[528] and Aug [489]

buoyant salmon
drifting copper
rocky wharf
rotund ginkgo
#

any1 knows whats the point of reflecting the gulp on frog boss HOI? every time i ask the tank about it they all say "doesnt matter it deals 0 dmg"

buoyant salmon
#

doesnt matter 0 damage

rotund ginkgo
#

so why did biz show it in his reflect vid and was like "if you reflect it NO ONE has to get eaten"

#

is there even a point to that reflect?

buoyant salmon
#

tank can be in it with 0 downsides so im pretty sure its a useless reflect

rotund ginkgo
#

like, infused strike and dragon strike are at least big tank busters so they alleviate some shit from tank

buoyant salmon
#

better to use for dr

rotund ginkgo
#

yh ok its what ive been doing

#

idk wanted to confirm

final zenith
#

Ayo

#

Who need the weak aura for season 4 tier

#

It'll show a percentage and a timer timer is how long the buff has percentage is ur crit chance always blow bloodthirst at 95% or higher

#

Unless u literally don't have another button

compact knot
rotund ginkgo
#

ait ty

quaint eagle
#

yo how expensive is the legendary weapon to make approximately?

final zenith
#

1 mil is what I hear

warm crag
#

heard 170k recntly

#

ok ye its not 1 mil

final zenith
#

Haha I have 0 clue

warm crag
#

why answer then ??

buoyant salmon
#

chadge

final zenith
#

Same reason as u it's what I heard thought I'd pass along

#

Didn't know it was inaccurate

barren dagger
#

i paid like 220k couple months ago

warm crag
#

i mean i personally paid 260k in like week 6-7 and the prices have only gone down

final zenith
#

I don't raid at all so I just have second hand info

#

Forgive me

left perch
#

my EU axe I just did was about 190k

#

my NA axe a month or so ago was like 220 iirc

#

Both times I did not make the optional handle thing and just gave a healer 5k to pocket me

half cargo
#

Could bypass that with proving grounds

#

No healer or salve needed

left perch
#

proving grounds huge for not using expensive elements too

half cargo
#

Yup

left perch
#

second wind and d stance was amazing

#

I forgot I did that on eu warrior

#

bc @indigo quarry told me

still swift
#

paw

oblique trail
#

@still swift go to bed

still swift
clever belfry
clever belfry
oblique trail
#

@still swiftgo to sleep

still swift
clever belfry
#

phone bad before sleep sleep!!!

oblique trail
still swift
#

considering to get back up to run nyalotha mythic for warrior tmog

oblique trail
#

Do it tomorrow

clever belfry
still swift
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it's already today

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angry todd

still swift
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i hope ure just fixing fnv

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fo3 peepee compared to it...

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Combines the two

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In NV

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and not streaming it cuz he's cringe desu ne

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I know TTW

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not played the mod but i know

left perch
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ye but why would I and who asked for it

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