fury

[hasty path]

Nah link it

[tender cairn]

no im lazy

[hasty path]

Ok then I’m gonna continue to call bullshit

[regal grotto]

So are we

[tender cairn]

[regal grotto]

🤣

[tender cairn]

ur the one who asked for it

[hasty path]

You’re not living a 22mil hit

[ember apex]

spell reflect + shield wall

[tender cairn]

can u actually reflect it

[regal grotto]

That’s a beeeg hit

[hasty path]

No

Lmao

[regal grotto]

LMAO

[tender cairn]

shame

[hasty path]

You can get the DR

[ember apex]

i meant for DR

[hasty path]

and then die through it

[tender cairn]

imagine tho

2 warrs

[hasty path]

Because it’s still multiple times larger than your hp bar

[tender cairn]

just reflect both

insta kill boss

[bitter palm]

u are not living 19 bazillion damage from that hit

[hardy cargo]

if only wall+reflect was actually 60% dr then could live anything

[eternal sundial]

First boss voti week 1 moment

[tender cairn]

[eternal sundial]

Reflect the roll

Win

[bitter palm]

i checked bdk logs and couldnt find solo tank logs so i guess i misremembered

[eternal sundial]

Not voti

Fucking sepulcher

[hasty path]

Wouldn’t live the 10mil left over

[hasty path]

Yeah it’s absolutely impossible

[eternal sundial]

Speak for urself beta yogurt male

[hardy cargo]

add in dstance and ironbark 100% dr

[hasty path]

Prot pala is the only tank that can solo a combo

And that’s exclusively with bubble

Ardent will not proc

It kills through it

[ember apex]

what about ummm the DotI trinekt

cheat def

[final birch]

it doesnt work

if you take 200% of your hp in 1 hit

[ember apex]

it doesnt work like i was saying

[eternal sundial]

3 screens of yap about 22 Mil hit

But does cheat work

💀💀💀

[sullen dove]

1000% of your hp

[final birch]

I mean spell block + sr + d stance + last stand + some IP + shield wall + pain sap

maybe?

[ember apex]

whats spell bop called

in game

[eternal sundial]

Pain sup you dingus

[final birch]

pain sap

[eternal sundial]

Supression

[hardy cargo]

this makes it a 2.2m hit so it might be close

[eternal sundial]

The fuck is the A from

[final birch]

sapression

[eternal sundial]

returded

[final birch]

yep

[hardy cargo]

LMFAO

[eternal sundial]

Glad it went through

[ember apex]

what is pally spell bop called in game

oh i forgot spell reflect

[modest condor]

blessing of spellwarding?

[regal grotto]

Blessing of protection?

[eternal sundial]

Thats natty bop

[ember apex]

oh well if the tank hit is magic, spell bop is an immunity

that is the double tank hit w/ every defensive minus spell bop in the game

on a prot warrior*

[hasty path]

You can’t really spell bop rashok combo

[modest condor]

is shield wall 60%?

[ember apex]

yes

thats the one spell i didnt look up

[hasty path]

I’m not sure if this is how DR multiplication works

[ember apex]

i dont play prot

whats the % for it

hold on

[modest condor]

he has that part correct

[final birch]

ye its not 60

[hasty path]

Ok it is just straight multiplicative?

[final birch]

100%

[final birch]

(1-x)x(1-y)x...

[hasty path]

Ok except you won’t have near full IP

[tender cairn]

was it same in s2?

[hasty path]

So it’s inherently flawed

[ember apex]

60% for shield wall?

[hasty path]

It was scaled the same if not harder

[bitter palm]

its not 60 no way

[ember apex]

https://www.wowhead.com/spell=41104/shield-wall

[hasty path]

Since it’s been nerfed since then

[tender cairn]

I think I found it?

[bitter palm]

that's wotlk shield wall

[tender cairn]

but not sure

[tardy lark]

i mean i just screenshotted from ingame

[tender cairn]

reading logs hard

[eternal sundial]

Rashok slam has always turbofucked

[hasty path]

This is literally a pic from current game

Idk how it’s a question still

[ember apex]

ok 40%

ty

[tender cairn]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/ZxthLk3mDv8YBP6A#fight=20&type=damage-taken&source=47&view=events

[tender cairn]

tell me if its it I cant read this

[ember apex]

its 40% let me update calculation

[tender cairn]

on 45 second

[final birch]

not saying its outdated

but

[tardy lark]

Carlo moment

[eternal sundial]

@tardy lark propaagaandard

[tardy lark]

[final birch]

13 years old

[tardy lark]

you'll never see me spec prot again

[eternal sundial]

You didnt spec it

Was only menu

Suuurely

[modest condor]

your ignore pain calculation is definitely wrong tho

[ember apex]

i assume 2M hp

[hasty path]

He literally dies

In the log you sent

To a 27mil overkill

Lmao

[modest condor]

if you have 2mil hp and 600k ignore pain shield then your effective hp is just 2.6mil

[hasty path]

You also don’t have 600k IP for the 2nd or third hit

[tender cairn]

how are u looking

[hasty path]

Since you lose a ton in the early combo

[tardy lark]

i did, because i wanted to be sure there wasnt a "wall has 20% additional damage reduction" talent in the tree somewhere

[hasty path]

Click deaths??

[tender cairn]

ah thought its all in 1

[ember apex]

IP makes u take 600k of that damage at 50% so its actually double the IP amount 600k IP is 1.2M EHP b/c u take 600k hp at 50% DR

[final birch]

^

[modest condor]

no 600k IP is 600k effective hp

[hasty path]

That’s not a relevant amount in 1 hit

[ember apex]

why

[hasty path]

Where all of it is consumed

[tender cairn]

prolly was normal then

guess im trippin

[hasty path]

Normal was doable yeah

It’s 500% in normal

[marsh kiln]

Why we talking about IP in fury

[tender cairn]

my bad

[marsh kiln]

Stop coping

[hasty path]

Vs 3000% in heroic/mythic

[marsh kiln]

No IP for fury

[random raptor]

Does anyone have the weak aura that announces when you spell reflect an ability and how much you reflected?

[modest condor]

it reduces the damage you take by 50% up to a cap of 600k, if you take a 300k hit then the shield will absorb 150k of it and 150k will go through, if you take a 2mil hit then the shield will absorb 600k of it and 1.4mil will go through

[hasty path]

If you install that you should be shot

[hasty path]

This. Ignore pain is more useful against spread damage

Not a giga tank buster

[ember apex]

so the counter on the shield is the flat damage it absorbs not the final amount?

[hasty path]

Yes

[ember apex]

ok

[hasty path]

If you have 600k IP

[ember apex]

i didnt know that

[hasty path]

600k dmg is absorbed

[random raptor]

Why lmfao

[hasty path]

It’s annoying and pointless

[random raptor]

its fun stop yappin

[hasty path]

No

[ember apex]

ok at any rate my calc is still wrong b/c cant prot stack ignore pain twice

[bitter palm]

why are we talkijg about surviving like 200 mil hit

bubble only way

[hasty path]

It’s fun

What else are we gonna talk about

Fury warrior?

[marsh kiln]

Fury warrior dedge

No point talking about dead part of the games content

[honest sundial]

Where buffs

[marsh kiln]

Its like chernobyl

[regal grotto]

We just got away from that convo 🤣🤣

[random raptor]

Should we be running double bsl or shadowflame when we get our 2nd craft for high keys/mythic raid

[sullen dove]

sorry I require letting my pugs know that I reflected a sick 900k earth bolt on first boss brack

also sometimes the yelling of “have reflect up” when a cast is being cast on me people notice and don’t kick it, maybe 10% of the time, and probably half of the time they actually would’ve let it thru anyway but I like to believe it helps

[random raptor]

can you link it

[spring fox]

That sounds much more useful than just yelling that you already reflected something

[sullen dove]

yea it’s a two part thing

that says reflect up and then just shouts what u reflected if it succeeds

[modest condor]

ok how much of a buff is this really

[sullen dove]

what

is there a buff that wowhead bot too slow to post

[sullen dove]

[bitter palm]

real

[slender perch]

insane buff 🤣

[sullen dove]

3% aura buff

classic

[bitter palm]

tbf

[sullen dove]

i mean

[wispy bridge]

Maybe a sign of more to come?

[regal grotto]

👀

[bitter palm]

that's not small at all

[sullen dove]

the ramp damage probably the most significant

well, aside from aura buff

[brazen cloud]

we back?

[slender perch]

no way we back

[modest condor]

no this is nowhere near enough

[sullen dove]

Honestly nothing they do to bt will make that button good

[regal grotto]

Fuck no

Lmao

[wispy bridge]

I dont think its enought to get it close to arms

[sullen dove]

na it’s never reaching that high

[wispy bridge]

But it's better than nothing

[bitter palm]

this makes fury high middle

in st

[modest condor]

well arms is overtuned so i dont think they want us to reach that

[slender perch]

high in st ? tf

[modest condor]

no this makes fury slightly less worst on st

[lapis lion]

im laughing so hard at how bad fury is and how many people are quitting it because of the playstyle despite the vocal minority saying s2 would save it

[modest condor]

im laughing so hard at the s3 voters malding

[sullen dove]

one of us is right

[slender perch]

we went from super wet noodle hits to bit less wet noodle hits

[bitter palm]

idk fury is good in m+ and that's all i care about

[regal grotto]

🤣

[bitter palm]

dont play fast spec then

[lapis lion]

not malding brother, i said i'd quit for s4 if s2 won and i did, playing other games and catching up on a backlog since this isnt a real season anyway

[eternal canopy]

THEY DID IT

[wispy bridge]

S2 tier rotation is much more enjoyable then s3 imo

[eternal canopy]

WE GETTING BUFFED YALL

[lapis lion]

still bad tho lmao

[wispy bridge]

still better then 0 buffs

[eternal canopy]

^

All damage by 5% is not nothing

[gleaming siren]

Fury is so back

[light tapir]

Is this coming tomorrow?

[eternal canopy]

yes

[light tapir]

Bless

[tardy lark]

its the entire reason im here

[eternal canopy]

+++++++++++++

[untold moth]

IS FURY SAVED?!

[lapis lion]

intentionally gimp a specs playstyle and population to prove a point >>>>>>

[eternal canopy]

WE BACK BBY

[wispy bridge]

not really

[untold moth]

Update your weak aura bois

[eternal canopy]

altho not gonna lie, arms is fun

[untold moth]

Lmao

[eternal canopy]

not in raid its only like 3 buttons in raid

[bitter palm]

fury was giga unpopular jn m+

[eternal canopy]

but in m+ arms is fun

[bitter palm]

cause ra is cancer

[lapis lion]

ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[wispy bridge]

how is alternating between rampage and bloodthirst constantly a playstyle

[icy vine]

IS FURY SAVED

[tardy lark]

nah, i enjoy the way fury plays

[lapis lion]

same way hitting raging wet noodle over and over is ig

[tardy lark]

so i voted for S2 and am hppy it won

[marsh kiln]

Dogshit

[modest condor]

why? nothing changes for the weakaura

[wispy bridge]

same

[marsh kiln]

Arms still fucks better

[south kayak]

I think the buffs to the 4p should be way more than just 5%, make it like 50% per stack then we talking

[torpid sand]

no way, they buffed us!

[marsh kiln]

Kaching

[dense elbow]

You know, I see the 3% aurabuff, and you know the devs did it as a joke
hah, classic

[south kayak]

And 2p 30%

[lost pasture]

It's something

Thank the Light!

[manic gulch]

[south kayak]

The s2 set still sucks on ST

Needs more

30% rampage damage and crit

[manic gulch]

all ability dmg buff by 3% is huge isn't it

[south kayak]

50% bt

[fossil hatch]

xd

[lapis lion]

no lol

[south kayak]

Not huge

[fossil hatch]

not enough

[manic gulch]

[south kayak]

But not small

[forest owl]

hyoooooog buffs

[modest condor]

all ability damage by 3% is like a 2% buff

[torpid sand]

anyway, back to arms

[modest condor]

and the tierset buff is also something like 2%

[restive peak]

We remain arms bois

[amber arch]

what do we think of fury buffs?

[lofty delta]

yeah, fury still dead

[amber arch]

not enough to save ?

[lapis lion]

does your mouse have a scroll wheel

[restive peak]

Not even close lmao

[wispy bridge]

it's not dead but arms ist still better

[dense elbow]

It is now a clear DPS increase over S3 tho - and even more solid on AoE. Overall a good change.

Then we even got a 3% aurabuff on top - as a "haha, we see you"

We cant complain too much, but at least S3 vs S4 is now even more niche and less actually viable.

[south kayak]

Fury is gonna be more than fine in m+ but if you don’t wanna do low st play arms in raids

[amber arch]

I removed it to save weight

[torpid sand]

meanwhile, boomkins gets nice buffs

[south kayak]

Tbh boomkins did not use their 4p lol

[spring fox]

Ha! Take that augmentation!

[south kayak]

It was way worse for them

[sullen dove]

i mean is it s3 also got buffed 3%, the only middling difference is more ramp/bt dmg

[tardy lark]

they are very well versed in crying on the forums

[dense elbow]

That is why I split the two, Sword

[vocal igloo]

how is devastation not getting nerrfs?

[sullen dove]

[slender perch]

you checked out dps in raid wdym we cant complain they said they will adjust all sets equal lmao

[lapis lion]

s4 isnt a real season and no one cares about balance fr

[lofty scroll]

Tuning confirmed

[vocal igloo]

you may say that but patch notes include 6 classes getting several adjustments

[bitter palm]

how is arms not getting nerfs

[vocal igloo]

just perplexed how dragons are not on the list

[bitter palm]

how is ret not getting nerfs

[lapis lion]

that should have happened weeks ago and are not enough

[south kayak]

How is destruction warlock getting buffs is what I’m most curious about, they sim post 410k on max

[sullen dove]

ret blows

[dense elbow]

Now S4 is better than S3 on ST, by a bigger margin - so goal achieved, without pushing us over the top in M+. Where the set already buffs us quite a bit.

[bitter palm]

not on st

[south kayak]

DESTRO WARLOCK BUFFS

[heavy sparrow]

Destro buffs were a little puzzling yea

[slim coral]

Furyis so back

[south kayak]

HAHAHAHAHHA

[lapis lion]

im sure the intern handling balance worked hard on it

[random raptor]

x2 bsl or 2x shadowflame?

[south kayak]

WHY WOULD YOU BUFF DESTRO WARLOCK

HELLO

[sullen dove]

curry

[heavy sparrow]

Like they are not the best st, but it's not like they need a buff either

[vocal igloo]

i expected arms nerf also

[bitter palm]

bsl

2x bsl

[random raptor]

thanks thanks

[marsh kiln]

[lapis lion]

LOL

[lofty scroll]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/upcoming-dragonflight-class-tuning-on-weekly-reset-vengeance-dh-nerf-balance-339230

[ember apex]

copium~1

[cedar radish]

Fury gonna be dog shit till 1 week before TWW

[ember apex]

wait

[cedar radish]

watch

[broken kindle]

AMG FURY INSANE BUFFS

[sinful spoke]

these buffs are so bad

[lapis lion]

til the am/ravager playstyle is dead, yeah

[frosty scroll]

nerf arms, real

[slender perch]

you coping hard if you think that fury is anywhere close to be "good" lmao and push us over in m+ in what world are we close to that ?

[ember apex]

what is this buff

5%?

[sullen dove]

Yea unfortunately that’s never going away

[spring fox]

Because they're warlock?

[sullen dove]

unless tiersets change that like it did s3 it will just inherently be the go to talents for fury

[wild mica]

just make BT 100% crit with the set

[ember apex]

why only a flat 3% buff? arent we like tens of thousands of DPS behind?

[hallow cipher]

im confused they havent nerfed shadow yet

[sullen dove]

until they make RA actually worth a dam

[south kayak]

They barely nerfed anyone

It’s mostly buffs

[hallow cipher]

true but still

[south kayak]

I don’t think they intend to nerf unless it’s way too bad like vdh being played more than any tank by a lot

[median wadi]

What crappy buffs. It feels like this -

"Oh I see you have no legs. Henceforth you'll crawl 5% faster."

[marsh kiln]

I love how every other class got buffs that are 10%+

Lol

[south kayak]

They’re not

[dense elbow]

Not what this buff was about - it was about to push T4 over T3, we would not be ST gods with current tierset with how the build works. S3 was the ST focus build, we chose the AoE sustain build.

Now we got a neat ST buff ontop, and an AoE buff. Our AoE was already quite decent, so not really copium. More just realist about the situation. We got quite a bit stronger, but our new damage profile remains the same (as expected)

If you want to keep to S3 profile, that too got buffed, so you could just keep at it

[south kayak]

That is untrue

Just spreading misinformation

[bitter palm]

u will never be meta

go reroll

if h want to be meta

[marsh kiln]

Locks getting buffed whilst already being meta in dungeons

Lmao

[eternal canopy]

caster meta is gonna be less dominant with vdh nerfs tho

[hallow cipher]

hmm yeah you are probably right on that

[eternal canopy]

real kicks are gonna be more important

[bitter palm]

wowzers never seen locks a main character class get main character treatment before

[hollow elk]

Arms still pretty meta. This buff is just to not be beat by a support class

[bitter palm]

its far frkm meta

in m+

[south kayak]

Yeah, the season isn’t as serious. It’s just give everyone everything and let them play. It’s gonna be giga unbalanced. And that’s fine for this season

[rich veldt]

it feels like: ''janna feels oppressive in lane, we are nerfing her movement speed by 5''

[bitter palm]

fury is gonna be 410k on st

[uneven plaza]

Mashallah Fury buffs

Poggers

[bitter palm]

which is really good

[lofty scroll]

I mean they can buff it again in later times lol

[bitter palm]

arms ks just broken

[marsh kiln]

Casters should get more utility whilst melee should be gigachad dps pumpers

[bitter palm]

in m+ fury is prob better outside of aa and nokhud

[south kayak]

Only fury warriors mald about being buffed

[dense elbow]

My S3 just gained 11k ST, I take it

[lofty scroll]

Haha

[humble plover]

number go up this is pog

[frozen tartan]

What a time to be alive.

[marsh kiln]

2-3t cleave also better on arms

[fossil hatch]

xd

[marsh kiln]

Also 1t better

[devout totem]

lolxd

[marsh kiln]

Also softcapped aoe

[quiet geyser]

Guys we'll be higher than aug on logs. Be happy

[marsh kiln]

Also bigger dam

[mellow bloom]

lolxd

[lofty scroll]

I just wished they buffed rampage a lot more than 3 percent

[south kayak]

Guys does fury want BSL?

[eternal canopy]

to be fair even as arms, roar is the majority of ur aoe damage

[south kayak]

I made for arms

[dense elbow]

Well, it did get 3% aurabuffed too

[eternal canopy]

so like the capped aoe argument is kinda

[marsh kiln]

Lets make a petition to give warriors BL

[spring fox]

No

[manic gulch]

warrior is fucked by its design

[lofty scroll]

Ahhh ok

[uneven plaza]

yes

[manic gulch]

that's why they can't buff shit easily

[torpid sand]

yes

[manic gulch]

aoe and st are connected

[lofty scroll]

It was fine in s3 m+

[manic gulch]

because of how ww works

[bitter palm]

xd

[slender perch]

well its legit whatever anyway if you dont want to fk your m+ grp in higher keys you play arms if you want to raid and do good dmg you play arms and i mean if you dont care about that sure we got a buff and we hit like a less wet noodle now in St wuhu

[hallow cipher]

yeah its mostly a filler patch

[long smelt]

the buffs to the set has to be a joke right

[spring fox]

BL is being handed out like candy. Give warrior utility that's more niche

[marsh kiln]

1t/2-3/big aoe better on arms

Fury more self heals

[uneven plaza]

like?

[marsh kiln]

Because pussy spec

Need to survive and do low dam whilst arms gigachad no survivsbility like real man

Pump high

[spring fox]

Literally anything that's less common than BL

[quaint stag]

They just needed to make the bloodthirst hit WAY harder per stack and reduce the damage it cleaves onto targets to balance it for st and mt

[fair star]

[long smelt]

the set needs to have the stacks cut in half

[manic gulch]

if you dont want to fk your m+ grp in higher keys you don't play armswarrior
ftfy

[long smelt]

10 stacks is dumb

[manic gulch]

[sleek nexus]

so just like how the season 3 set worked XD

[fair star]

Guys

Can we do revote

And revote s3

[sullen dove]

if only

[uneven plaza]

How about we get BL and we make Intim Shout be uncapped and dispell 1 rage effect?

[manic gulch]

s3 badge

[quaint stag]

Yeah because they’re probably worried about us being too good for aoe on low cd but were soft capped anyway which doesn’t change much for m+ meta comps anyway

[fair star]

Without the aurabuff how big is this s4 tier set buff

2%

[clever path]

We got buffed finally

[south kayak]

Something like that

[fair star]

Arms is still miles ahead

[devout totem]

[manic crane]

fury op now

[fair star]

I dreamt abiut 20% buff not 5%

Feelsbadman

[uneven plaza]

[manic crane]

[long smelt]

the buffs are horrible

[ember apex]

this shiould just be baked into berserker stance as a party wide aura buff

[long smelt]

all it does is make us def btr than aug on st

[fair star]

S3 tier got buffed

[steep fable]

Pretty sure the buff doesn't get us out of the bottom 2 of the raid rankings.

[dense elbow]

I do good dam in my myhtic raids in S3 build, I will do even better damage now.

Same with M+

We both agree, this is just a net positive. Though you still want to doom, and that is fine - it is the warrior core trait

The buff is 100% a win situation - Especially for the M+ that already was pumpin', and now will do so even harder
(We were never going to be the 0.01% pick anyhow, that is what it is)

[fair star]

[livid lake]

Buffs are buffs

[quaint stag]

4 set buffs bt damage by 50% per stack and cleaves for 80%-90% damage or some shit idk if they don’t want us too good at cleave

[south kayak]

20% would make you better than any class in the game lmao

You know that right

[fair star]

Fury dreams

What can i say

[manic crane]

I cant believe that PPL voted s2

[long smelt]

gotta shit on s2

[dense elbow]

Oh here we go again...

[celest sierra]

Are those buffs rn gunna actually do anything for us ?

[manic gulch]

with the lack of utility warrior has it deserves it

[dense elbow]

[long smelt]

ahahaha

[manic gulch]

[fair star]

Probably not

[uneven plaza]

s2 WOULD be fun, if they delivered on their promise on tuning

[long smelt]

the set isnt even what ppl liked about s2

[ember apex]

blizz said vote for gameplay not power and they will balance the tier, so we voted for s2 b/c gameplay is better

[sullen dove]

S3 tier now at old s4 sim

[long smelt]

ppl just wanna play am rav

[sullen dove]

Subjective statement

fuck s2 gameplay

[fair star]

S4 gonna get ahead of s3 tier once fury warriors have myth ilvl track just cuz of ilvl

[restive peak]

Fury is actually potentially the play in a few of the keys, by the way. This was not enough for ST but is actually quite good for M+

[frosty scroll]

fury mains when no buffs
fury mains when buffs

[ember apex]

fine but less people agree w/ u

[south kayak]

S3 vs S2…

[manic crane]

Fuck this Game play

[sullen dove]

doubt

[manic crane]

S3 was dope

[sullen dove]

the louder people disagree

[south kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/ah-shit-here-we-go-again-ah-shit-cj-gta-gta-san-andreas-gif-13933485

[sullen dove]

and the ones with followings

[steep fable]

10% buff to rampage, raging blow and execute and a small nerf to the meat cleaver effect would have made more sense to get the ST damage out of the dumpster

[uneven plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/thriller-michael-jackson-eating-popcorn-watching-gif-5577709

[olive wraith]

Fury saved?

[pulsar cradle]

🤔

[sullen dove]

S3 tier does 400k now???

[celest sierra]

Right now I’m rocking my S3 set . I have fully upgraded axe and Ashkandi as weps . I’m slapping so much harder in my 489 s3 then my 522 s4

[sullen dove]

surely

[fair star]

S3 tier saved

[ember apex]

our AoE doesnt need a nerf. we're not even top damage in aoe

[olive wraith]

Aura buff, rampage buff, tier stack buff

[manic gulch]

aoe is buffed on any buff for st

automatically

[olive wraith]

Maybe heading in the right direction

[slender perch]

can i see your logs want to see what "good dmg" is for you and idk maybe im to negativ but the way they said at start of season 4 we will balance everything equal doesnt looks like it to me pisses me of a bit even tho its just a for fun season i still want to have my fun whit my war ngl

[white quest]

Peeks Do we like the buffs? Also S3 sucked, anihilator is a dumb talent and odyns fury is just a glorified whirlwind.

[fluid cedar]

WTB 10% aura buff PST

[ember apex]

GOD FORBID

[chrome plover]

FURY SAVED

[sinful spoke]

just saying s3 set was winning till people started encouraing others to vote s2 on multiple accounts

[chrome plover]

[manic crane]

Next update before TWW

[sinful spoke]

s2 then randomly gained like 3k votes

[south kayak]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/91325418677743616/593379495981875220/ghun.gif

[sinful spoke]

in like 2hrs

[fair star]

Wtf

Get this OF hater out of here

[manic gulch]

no

[marsh kiln]

Fury pussy spec they need to survive and spectate arms whilst doing low dam whilst arms gigachad no survivsbility like real man and pumping high meters.

[manic gulch]

they are right

[sullen dove]

Idk if they ever used the word “equal” and even if they did there are exactly zero scenarios where every spec in the game is doing “equal” damage

[summer quail]

honestly can't wait til tww, then people will stop bitching about voting for this or that tierset

[manic gulch]

s3 is the worst iteration of fury

[ember apex]

fury is almost inarguably the WORST spec in the game and @manic gulch is arguing for fury nerfs

[fair star]

Its mages who didnt want us taking their spot in the meta

[sinful spoke]

arms is no longer squishy

[fair star]

[untold moth]

Based, OF garggles my balls

[wild mica]

the guy is rping in warrior discord with his weird "peeks" thing, dont pay him any attention

[manic gulch]

go play paladin if you want to be yellow and press cds every 2 minutes for burst

[sinful spoke]

nope

[manic gulch]

[exotic cradle]

Guys

[sullen dove]

Yeah until they do lazy cop out s4 again in tww and we have to vote again

[sinful spoke]

i saw someone in here or in another chat said they voted with 20 characters

[olive wraith]

What’s wrong with burst damage

[exotic cradle]

Can we expect to be close to arms now

[summer quail]

ye will prob happen ahahhaha, but atleast that will take a while

[rich veldt]

no

[manic gulch]

its definitely not the worst spec in the game and i'm not arguing about nerfs wtf

[olive wraith]

No

[exotic cradle]

Lame

[marsh kiln]

Its the mages and the druids that sabotaged the vote results

[pulsar cradle]

cant wait 10 mins for a 200k crit BT

[marsh kiln]

Voting on 500alts

Damn rats

[manic gulch]

s3 voters making things up as always

[wild mica]

druids also sabotaged themselves

[manic gulch]

[fair star]

Imagine we chose s3 tier and it got buffed as part of balancing,no1 here would complain

[modest condor]

man i cant believe people voted for the playstyle they liked how dare they!

[restive peak]

Arms is still giga ahead for ST, fury is now likely going to be the play for M+ on at least half of the keys; this is good, go learn both specs

[manic crane]

Yeah better spam shit like crazy and still deal less dmg than arms and ret

[sullen dove]

“People”

[sour tundra]

only 3% on fury damage buff devs are clueless

[rich veldt]

funny thing this is the first and last time blizz will allow people to vote for a tierset

they learnt their lesson

[fair star]

5% buff isnt gonna make fury better than arms in keys

[olive wraith]

Did you read the other buffs?

[sullen dove]

did they

[rotund ginkgo]

FURY WARRIOR

[summer quail]

[sour tundra]

yes and still nothing

[rotund ginkgo]

BLANKET BUFF

[quaint stag]

I hardly saw any complaints about spam play style during all of shadowlands, s1 or s2 then s3 comes out and all of a sudden everyone hates pressing their buttons and want a set gcd locked play style

[rotund ginkgo]

LETSGOOOOOOOOOOOO

[fair star]

S3 is still better

[olive wraith]

Ramp also buffed

[uneven plaza]

[olive wraith]

Which is our top dmg

[ember apex]

in aggregate it is the worst spec in the entire game, below Aug

[rotund ginkgo]

LETS TURN FROM DOGSHIT TO MEDIOCRE

[weak grail]

It's not about learning specs it's about playstyle, arms is boring af

[rotund ginkgo]

letsgoooooooooooooo

[olive wraith]

And our tier will do more than tickle

[celest sierra]

Yeh I don’t think these buffs are gunna make s4 viable yet

[fair star]

3% rampage buff

[wanton mirage]

[olive wraith]

Dude I’m a s3 voter 😂

[slender perch]

i dont mean all classes just talking about our set wrote that a bit wrong i guess

[celest sierra]

I think we need another 3-5% overall buff

[manic crane]

Bcs signet was dumb fun

[restive peak]

Fury was already arguably equivalent for keys; the tankiness and ability to maintain ST in AOE spec is a huge boon, you will rarely fail a key to damage. Nxiv only plays fury and is literally rank 1 RN, and as the keys get bigger and damage gets higher fury becomes better

[celest sierra]

5% doesn’t seem enough to how low we shlacking

[austere drift]

i assume the buffs do pretty much nothing and that arms still gaps us yeah?

[wild mica]

so close to a warrior sandwich

[restive peak]

Arms gives up damage to survive, both in talents and actual play, fury does not.

[wanton mirage]

We should get each discord color for S3 and S2 voters. i like dramas

[barren dagger]

Yall too focused on raid damage. If you like fury you can still pump in keys and plays arms for raid

[sinful spoke]

sil dont act like voting multiple times to manipulate the votes isnt scummy

it screwed over the majority

[modest condor]

s3 voters did the same thing

[fair star]

Yea but damage is still trash and if people are playing s3 tier for dmg then our stamina decreses

[sinful spoke]

yeah okay

[modest condor]

and there were like 20k votes

[restive peak]

If you’re obsessed w overall, you’ll believe arms is way ahead; if you play the game actively, you’ll realize that’s not the case

[modest condor]

in a game with millions of players

[celest sierra]

Arms gaps us S4 if u wear ur s3 gear with upgraded weps and trinkets u gap them

[rotund ginkgo]

not a based take lol

[crystal musk]

Grats on your buffs, kings

[ember apex]

blizz just doesnt know how to tune fury

[manic gulch]

the story changes every time you hear it

[ember apex]

imo

[long smelt]

why cant ppl want fury to be good in raids too?

[rotund ginkgo]

i love fury but fury is behind in keys as well

[manic gulch]

one side says it was s3 that was botted

[restive peak]

Not a single fury warrior over 3k is running s3 set

[wild mica]

Have you played a lot of arms? you have so much rage IP doesnt even make a difference

[rich veldt]

ok guys hear me out we will infiltrate the mage ranks and all play shit so they wont get invited anymore so in 8 weeks fury will overtake them

deal?

[sinful spoke]

thats why s2 randomly got 3k votes out of nowhere after people kept saying to vote on diff alts

[wind token]

Also 90% of players didn’t even vote for sets

[olive wraith]

“Manipulate” is a word. Multi character voting was available to everyone

[manic gulch]

the other says it was s2 that was botted

[marsh kiln]

Arms meta

[summer quail]

you do not gap arms with s3 tier. arms s4 is just way too strong

[long smelt]

are we just resigned to fury is a m+ only spec

[modest condor]

no matter which side would have won, it would have been a significant minority that caused it

[sinful spoke]

point stands

[clever path]

Kinda funny since if arms beat out dev we would have two sandwiches

[white quest]

So TLDR this buff is absolutely meaningless cause its way to small?

[modest condor]

neither side was botted, both sides were abused, s2 was most likely abused more

[restive peak]

…I’m one of the highest ranked M+ warrs rn as arms, you are not THAT overloaded to not lose damage

[celest sierra]

Then the arms warriors I gapped were just trash

[austere drift]

idk, seems weird to be like well you can play fury in m+ only

[drowsy heron]

are the buffs enough or do we need more? i'm assuiming we need more lol

[marsh kiln]

Thats what i said lol

[manic gulch]

also the "botting" was not actual botting but people voting with multiple characters

[sinful spoke]

s2 voters screwed over the s3 voters that were going to win

[summer quail]

yes they were

[manic gulch]

because blizz allowed it

[sinful spoke]

thats all that matters

[white quest]

Fuck S3 voters

[rotund ginkgo]

can confirm i am trash as arms

[sinful spoke]

cheating to ruin the game for everyone else

selfish people

[manic gulch]

good

[restive peak]

People arguing something they read as a theory but not actually playing. You’re looking at sims; arms sims 40k higher but loses 50k ST swapping to AOE

[olive wraith]

It’s not cheating

[manic gulch]

justices served

[marsh kiln]

Should let ppl vote on chars that have 1000 hrs /played

[olive wraith]

Lmao

[quaint stag]

Based

[manic gulch]

even blizz agrees that annihilator is dogshit

[slender perch]

lets just quit S4 and go outside and touch some gras and come back whit tww problem solved

[restive peak]

The biggest fury problem is the target cap for m+

[lost saffron]

bro were finally viable

[celest sierra]

I voted for S2 and I regret it lmao . Like seeing the damage profiles rn with all these items S3 winning would have gotten us nerfed asap lmao

[marsh kiln]

If it was uncapped youd see 5mil dps

[modest condor]

before these buffs arms aoe spec had the same st as fury aoe spec

[sinful spoke]

go vote multiple times irl see what happens

[drowsy heron]

the vote was supposed to be about playstyle not strength. people blaming the voters are completely missing the point that its on Blizzard to actually do their jobs and balance the game

[fair star]

Does fury do higher st in dungeons than arms

[lost saffron]

3%

[white quest]

Even blizz knows annihilator is garbage thats why it is getting removed in TWW

[barren dagger]

If you just group packs as 5, fury should be quite good?

[olive wraith]

That’s not remotely the same

[sinful spoke]

its voting

[modest condor]

like you see with a couple of other specs already?

[clever path]

Our biggest problem is not mythic+ though?

[restive peak]

Which means they were fairly interchangeable, and now fury will likely be better in certain keys; I see this as a win

[manic gulch]

if you can switch characters irl sure

[rich veldt]

biggest problem is the LFG window

[olive wraith]

Guys a video game = irl elected office

[manic gulch]

[olive wraith]

What a take

[austere drift]

you mean like lock does if you pull for them

[lost saffron]

I vote for critcake

[restive peak]

Lots of classes have to swap DPS specs every tier

[lost saffron]

As our president

[sinful spoke]

im telling u that voting multiple times is cheating

[south kayak]

Both memes

[lost saffron]

But only if he finally removes his pants

[sinful spoke]

u dont want to accept it becauseu probably did it urself

[barren dagger]

Critcake made everyone bote s2!!!!! Impeach him!!!!

[dark frost]

Buffs?

[manic gulch]

its not because blizz allowed it lol

[radiant trail]

Box voted season 2, get him!

[olive wraith]

I’m telling you it’s not chesting

[celest sierra]

Any buff we get rn is a win , but this buff does not seem like it’s gunna change anything at all. 3% overall damage buff … should have been a flat 5%

[sinful spoke]

lol

[devout totem]

i voted S1

[wild mica]

arms player sabotaging fury players

[manic gulch]

blizz literally allowed multiple characters from the same account to vote

[south kayak]

I don’t remember what I voted lmao

[manic gulch]

there is no cheating

it was intended

[manic crane]

[sinful spoke]

"guys s3 set is winning lets all get on 30 diff alts to vote for our s2 set!"

[manic gulch]

[sullen dove]

Idk if “intended” is correct

[chrome plover]

i voted s3 but im glad s2 won

[sullen dove]

more just an oversight

[modest condor]

less than 1% of the playerbase voted, trying to compare it to irl voting is laughable

[restive peak]

I agree it was small, and I agree fury ST in raid is god awful, but when I see people in here crying about fury M+ I wanna smack my head off the desk

[sullen dove]

that they didn’t care to fix

[chrome plover]

+1

[manic gulch]

blizz's problem

[drowsy heron]

lol, Critcake is an avid Fury enjoyer, he is only playing arms atm cause he knows is does more damage

[lofty scroll]

I think it’s like that for all of peoples mains.

[manic gulch]

still doesn't make it cheating

[clever path]

This feels like a repeat of S1 SL, buffs every week to the shittiest spec

[barren dagger]

Is fury actually saved with the changes btw?

[sinful spoke]

doesnt matter if 1% of the playerbase voted '

[pulsar cradle]

vote por fury tier. play arms xD

[sinful spoke]

s2 voters cheated

thats all

[modest condor]

there were like 20k total votes and both sides had confirmed people voting multiple times so we're probably looking at less than 10k total people who voted

[olive wraith]

Saved might be a strong word

[manic crane]

[sinful spoke]

u would have lost the vote

[olive wraith]

????

What lmao

[restive peak]

Yeaaaah it’s the actual opposite, Crit became well known for his arms OTP playstyle back in sl dude

[barren dagger]

Fury saved. Im switching back!

[celest sierra]

Im one of those crying haha . I swapped back to my s3 for m+. Also I’m coming after ur spot on Sargaras haha

[random raptor]

Augury or Signet brand for 2nd bullion purchase? signet sims way higher

[sinful spoke]

cant make a grammar mistake without someone losing it

[ember apex]

paper ballots only next time

[humble plover]

its getting really old reading heroic andys complain about fury in raid all day here

[drowsy heron]

and is now an avid Fury enjoyer, people cant switch specs?

[wind token]

Who cares it’s a season 4 that is meaningless

[quaint stag]

None of the people who voted s3 could’ve done it multiple times either? Weird they only allowed multiple characters to vote for s2

[restive peak]

GL bb 😜

[drowsy heron]

he is literally playing Fury on stream right now

[modest condor]

need to show legal passport or drivers license to vote for tierset

[restive peak]

Nope he prefers arms

[rotund ginkgo]

linc

i had to play arms cuz i felt so bad my overalls were the same on week 2 as they were on week 1

[regal grotto]

🤣

[rotund ginkgo]

😦

[hardy cargo]

show parses to be able to vote

[restive peak]

And it doesn’t matter anyway, fury ST is dog, it has been dog for ages besides S3

[austere drift]

yeah, was a fried way to handle the sets, they essentially let a minority pick for the majority of the playerbase instead of any better solutions

[celest sierra]

Tonight I’m closing that gap. I think I’m only 100 points behind ha

[drowsy heron]

he has literally said on stream multiple times that he loved S2 fury playstyle and would play it if it was doing more damage

[lofty scroll]

Hahaha

[modest condor]

go ask him on stream which playstyle he prefers right now lol

[rotund ginkgo]

he also said so on the fury vid

[restive peak]

He would play both as needed because he’s a good warrior

[rotund ginkgo]

on ptr

[drowsy heron]

and again, he is literally playing Fury on stream atm

[south kayak]

@young swan please put slowdown

[sullen dove]

[manic crane]

Fun detected

[manic gulch]

wtf

slowmode

[restive peak]

I play fury, like super actively, it’s so weird how personal people take this

[sullen dove]

Chat moving too fast for box!!!

[sinful spoke]

teacher's pet

[sullen dove]

can’t read quick enough!!!

[sinful spoke]

old ass man

[restive peak]

You’re wrong if you think fury is dead for M+ and that’s not an opinion

[manic gulch]

box

[sinful spoke]

cant keep up

[hardy cargo]

so insanely fucking real

[manic crane]

Slow down guys

[radiant trail]

box, dont you hone other senses when you cant hear?

[wild mica]

bUt tIeR lIstS

[real hinge]

what they buff

[barren dagger]

Is prot the new meta tank?

[south kayak]

Im not keeping up, it’s just too much bullshit

[sinful spoke]

yes

[wind token]

As much as I love fury it sucks it’s not great so I just play arms simple

[sinful spoke]

always has been

[sullen dove]

[pulsar cradle]

[sinful spoke]

hidden gem pic

[uneven path]

200%

[restive peak]

Arms is better ST and better for uncapped pulls, it also has a worse damage profile for M+ overall and is far less tanky, there are pros and cons to both

[marsh kiln]

Fury pussy spec they need to survive and spectate arms
whilst doing low dam whilst arms gigachad no survivsbility
like real man and pumping high meters.

Remember this

[manic crane]

[modest condor]

Fury pussy spec they need to survive and spectate arms
whilst doing low dam whilst arms gigachad no survivsbility
like real man and pumping high meters.

[sullen dove]

[restive peak]

Every other DPS class learns all their specs and warriors act like it’s fuckin blasphemous their preferred one isn’t always best

[hardy cargo]

Fury pussy spec they need to survive and spectate arms
whilst doing low dam whilst arms gigachad no survivsbility
like real man and pumping high meters.

[south kayak]

[sullen dove]

Fury pussy spec they need to survive and spectate arms
whilst doing low dam whilst arms gigachad no survivsbility
like real man and pumping high meters.

[manic crane]

Fury pussy spec they need to survive and spectate arms
whilst doing low dam whilst arms gigachad no survivsbility
like real man and pumping high meters.

[humble plover]

Fury pussy spec they need to survive and spectate arms
whilst doing low dam whilst arms gigachad no survivsbility
like real man and pumping high meters.

[restive peak]

And yes I said this exact same shit to arms warrs throwin a fit last tier

[feral ivy]

What do yall think about the buff coming? Idk if 3% is a lot and the 35 stack from 30 is a a lot

[south kayak]

Fury pussy spec they need to survive and spectate arms
whilst doing low dam whilst arms gigachad no survivsbility
like real man and pumping high meters.

[olive wraith]

Ramp also buffed

[ember apex]

b/c the playstyle of arms vs fury is so diff.

[inner harbor]

dogshit

[regal grotto]

🤣🤣

[celest sierra]

@restive peak nvm I just checked raider io u pushed the gap higher

[ember apex]

if arms was as fun as fury ppl would have no issue

[sullen dove]

And any other class doesn’t have different feel between specs??

arms is plenty fun

[restive peak]

So is frost to fire to arcane mage playsyyle

They learn all 3

[sullen dove]

it’s just not fun for you

that’s your choice

[warm crag]

you lost fair and square L

[restive peak]

I barely did shit first tyranny either we ascend tm 😛

[wild mica]

arms was fun in s3, but now they brought back cleave so its not fun anymore

[celest sierra]

This buff is actually bad. It’s better then nothing but not enough at all. Should have been a flat 5% minimum

[sullen dove]

you lost fair and square L

[feral ivy]

Isn’t that just 1 less rampage to hit before bloodthirsty gets its buff?

[wanton mirage]

Arms ST is fine. I am having hiccups following the conditionings in AoEs

[olive wraith]

No like rampage damage

[celest sierra]

Yo hmu in game let’s push bro . I mean I’m sure u got ur main team etc but im always down to play with new folks

[white quest]

If it was botting that it took for me to get my anger management+ravager+onslaught back over annihilator+odyns furious fart then i thank all the botters for once.

[modern summit]

Are these good buffs? Or fury still dooming

[wild mica]

always doom

[mild thunder]

I'm team Doom.

[modest condor]

preach

[manic crane]

[restive peak]

I gotta up my sp I can PI bot you bruh

[long smelt]

like i dont get why they keep buffing the 2 pc and then nt reducing the amount of stacks needed to hit max

[celest sierra]

They are very very very very meh

[manic crane]

All of that and deal less dmg than goated s3

[celest sierra]

I got a whole community to run ur priest through raid and funnel u gear and through keys

[south kayak]

Doom early and often

[manic crane]

[random raptor]

Buffs are still buffs, its something
The fact that blizzard is tuning S4 means we might get more
I'm happy with it for now

[humble plover]

fury could be 50k up on 2nd place and these nerds would still doom

[celest sierra]

Ima send u a link to my server

[feral ivy]

Ahh yea so 3% dmg increase overall and another 3% from the tier proc

[long smelt]

since u wanna use bt when u hit 100% crit but then with lower stacks its gonna hit less

[wild mica]

idk i feel like there was very little dooming in s3

[sullen dove]

ye cuz 95% reck uptime gameplay is dogshit

[olive wraith]

The 2p just means more ramps will crit and have more dmg=our best ability gets more damage and more consistent tier stacks

[sullen dove]

sorry not sorry

[untold moth]

When raidbots updated so i can confirm still not switching to S4 for ST?!

[feral ivy]

Ahhh

[olive wraith]

Buff maintenance is boring

[long smelt]

the 4pc just sucks

[celest sierra]

@restive peak I sent you an invite to my server when ur able to hop in general let’s talk bro

[restive peak]

❤️ keeper we ball, I'm in

[sullen dove]

holy #1 Lincc fan

[white quest]

A risk i was worth taking. Maybe we get some more buffs. And even if not i gladly deal a small amount less damage then another season of this garbage build that was S3

[hardy cargo]

no im #1 linc fan but im just shy 👉 👈

[humble plover]

its not even maintenance, hit the buttons and maybe itsll last longer

[olive wraith]

What was garbage about it

[sullen dove]

And if it doesn’t you feel like ass! Hit raging blow 4 times in a row and don’t have enough rage to hit rampage again btw!!

[random raptor]

s2 and s3 both great to play, I prefer s2
Imagine if s3 won and tuning was still done poorly, people would still be bitching
its a numbers issue and we just had a step in the right direction

[restive peak]

I will say it's kinda funny cuz this is the same bitching and moaning that when on in S2, then I said "they always say theyll tune and they won't, if you want to do S3 damage in S4 vote S3" and people went bananas, voted S2, and now we're here again

[humble plover]

oh noooo

downtime

cringe

[sullen dove]

reck is a worthless cooldown

when it’s always up

[restive peak]

You chose "playstyle" over damage, and now you got it, why anyone is surprised after 20 years of blizzards "tuning" promises is beyond me

[white quest]

Annihilator sucks as a talent i want to press my raging blow+Odyns fury is just a glorified whirlwind that feels boring to press+no anger management which makes fury feel absolutely garbage to play.

[shell jackal]

unrelated question to the class/spec: does anyone know of any high-end raiding discords/communities that will be running M Fyrakk reclears for the mount every week until the season ends?

[manic crane]

Yeah maybe but they are doing nothing to really improve fury Just 3% aura buff every season same shit

[shell jackal]

and if so could you send them my way please

or send me a link*

[zealous condor]

based

[restive peak]

If you're looking to buy, DM me, we sell mounts if you're NA

[austere drift]

people just get mad when AM isnt on the menu imo, i have no problem with either personally the thing i hate is the ignore bloodthirst until weakaura lights up gameplay

[sullen dove]

odyns 100x more interesting than onslaught which is just a glorified slam

[shell jackal]

fuck buying that shit my brother in christ i'll earn it thank you, appreciate it tho, and i'm on EU

[mild thunder]

I liked resetting OF and getting gigantic execute Bloodbath crits.

[robust widget]

Imagine the people enjoying both S3 and S2 playstyle, true gigachads 😎

[sullen dove]

can diss anni that’s fair it is a little mid

[olive wraith]

Raging blow is just flat damage. Do you like slam? Why does anni suck as a talent. OF actually felt more impactful than ravager

[restive peak]

Ah can't help broheem sorry D:

[lofty scroll]

Agreed

[sullen dove]

but not odyns

[zealous condor]

where bro

[celest sierra]

If S3 won without the tuning we would still be slapping on the top of charts it’s just so strong

[fleet parrot]

Imagine voting for s2

[zealous condor]

I really loved doing tank dam outside of cds lmao

[olive wraith]

Where what

[restive peak]

People can never explain why they hate Annih btw, they just say they hate slam...why do you hate slam but not RB? Why do you hate slam but not WW? They're all just damage buttons

[ashen socket]

even though its just a better slam it would be nice if they deleted slam and turned it into onslaught for fury

[restive peak]

Who gives a fuck which 1 you press

[zealous condor]

where did odyns fury feel impactful lmao

[mild thunder]

I miss Fury's execute damage.

[restive peak]

You had the exact same APM whether it was annih or rb

[olive wraith]

Every time you pushed odyns

Like what

[manic crane]

[zealous condor]

[hardy cargo]

I think its bc they hate SoS and not anni

[olive wraith]

We actually had burst

[lofty scroll]

Hahaha

[ashen socket]

You have higher peak damage with odyns

[random raptor]

This makes no sense considering we have a completely different ilvl cap, tuning could still have been bad which would make s3 set weak if it had won

[sullen dove]

tindral

[white quest]

Nah hard disagree. I'd rather play around onslaught get 3 stacks of tenderizing strikes+100% enrage then press glorified whirlwind.

[manic crane]

Remind me when execute was Good

[sullen dove]

Fyrakk

[long smelt]

yall keep going back to playstyle which is subjective and everyone can like whichever i dont care i just liked that we finally had st in s3 our aoe has nvr had issues

[zealous condor]

U had burst with ur 1,30s

[restive peak]

Ye I missed spammin WW in city but that's all

[zealous condor]

outside of that u do nothing

lame

[fickle bluff]

the difference is annihilator is extremely static, and based around juggling short cooldowns, the rest of fury does not play like that

[sullen dove]

[olive wraith]

Execute phase damage he means

[zealous condor]

thats true

[mild thunder]

Had burst with our 33s OF, too. lol

[manic crane]

But still

[olive wraith]

So you don’t like using an extra half brain cell?

[sullen dove]

Smolderon damage amps

[hardy cargo]

personally I fucking hated where in aoe u relatively consistently come up with that one global of downtime when using last ww stack on slam. it infuriated me

[mild thunder]

Root removable. Uncapped/DoT. AA haste. Big crits following with more DoT.

[stable cove]

that’s so real

[chilly sapphire]

Buffs be buffs, but why didn't they like reduce tier's amount of stacks or smth.

[olive wraith]

S3 had great exe phase dmg. Bb hit like a truck

[stable cove]

that random global where you had nothing to press every once in a while

[mild thunder]

S3 compressed our DPS cycles in a way that S2 cannot.

[fickle bluff]

pressing bt every other gcd is not hard, i just dont enjoy the annihilator playstyle

[covert coyote]

Random gcd of downtime means you misplayed

[modest condor]

not on aoe

[sinful spoke]

Yeah because s2 doesnt have dps cycles

[sullen dove]

Wym s2 literally 3 buttons

[hardy cargo]

not in aoe

[white quest]

Raging blow is not just flat damage it gives you tenderizing strikes making your rampage deal more damage. Also i just like pressing lots of buttons. Its why i play fury. Odyns furry did not feel more impactfull imo and i blame the fact that it is just a glorified whirlwind. I rather send my weapon on the floor to spin like a hurricane.

[olive wraith]

Is it not harder than ramp-rb?

[manic crane]

I mean Just execute i Loved hard hitting Bb

[mild thunder]

You cannot reset Ravager as fast as we could Odyn's Fury. And again, you lose Execute DPS on top of it. Like, a lot. We lose a ton of CSHB damage, too.

[sinful spoke]

Its just slapping the boss around with wet noodles

[dapper goblet]

Season 2 owns

[fickle bluff]

no? i never said it was hard. please cope harder

[hardy cargo]

[sinful spoke]

Xeos no longer based

[olive wraith]

Pressing lots of buttons? You pressed more in s3

[frosty scroll]

Season 2 set haters will not be tolerated

[zealous condor]

Season 2 tier feels a million times better in M+

[manic crane]

XD

[humble plover]

the best part is these raids are tuned so low you could bring only fury warriors and still kill it lmao

[zealous condor]

thats why a lot of people wanted it

[stable cove]

least based xeos take i’ve ever seen

[sullen dove]

it is objectively better in m+

[marsh kiln]

No it doesnt

[sullen dove]

this is true

[marble schooner]

just looked at buffs and we are still wet noodles right ?

[mild thunder]

I would've rather had S1, so we had ST.

[sinful spoke]

Yes

[marble schooner]

BT needs like a 40% base dam increase lmao

[sullen dove]

[manic gulch]

"but muh fury is holding me back"

[long smelt]

tww alpha did that

[manic gulch]

[olive wraith]

S3 had great st

[mild thunder]

I know.

[modest condor]

fun fact: they buffed bt but not bb

[lofty scroll]

Agreed

[sullen dove]

S1 was cheeks

[modest condor]

so on alpha bb barely does more damage than bt

[marsh kiln]

U have some ravager dogshit spinning around in the ground then tank decides to pull away like he doesnt want to deal with ur bullshit damage since its too low to notice on details anyways.

[long smelt]

really???

[olive wraith]

S1 would’ve been worse. Idk how they’d tune it

[marsh kiln]

S3 was bis

[long smelt]

thats dumb

[white quest]

Sending as many rampages as possible>Bloodthirst spam.

Also annihilator is just not a good otherwhise blizzard would not remove it in TWW

[mild thunder]

Yeah, cause it was before the Reckless Abandon nerf, and we threw away Crushing Blow stacks.

[zealous condor]

time ur cooldowns better

[modest condor]

yeah bt and bb are their own abilities, and they always forget to buff bb when they buff bt

[untold moth]

The total buff is only 2%?!!? The 3% to aura was already 2% nearly... so the set change did nothing!?

[mild thunder]

We got a lot of changes between S1 and S3.

[zealous condor]

at least u can have cds from pack to pack

[sullen dove]

Me when will never let RA be played again devs too smart with that one

[zealous condor]

and not be useless LMAO

[modest condor]

like the first time they changed RA to its current form it was a 100% increase over the base abilities

[oblique trail]

At least we only had to wait 2 weeks for the seasons Aura buff

[sullen dove]

Isn’t BB based off bt’s damage tho, or it’s just it’s own button

[olive wraith]

So you don’t like pressing a lot of buttons. You just wanna press 2 button

[hardy cargo]

own button

[modest condor]

then over time they buffed bt so much it was only like 30% until the buffs last patch

[edgy widget]

maybe 2 more weeks till an actual useful one?

[mild thunder]

Reckless Abandon S3 change would've been great with S1.

[olive wraith]

Nah s1 swapped to am

[manic crane]

Dude they buffed destro

[white quest]

I never sayed many different buttons. Just buttons.

[sullen dove]

Only cuz they included ravager in am

[olive wraith]

S3 pressed more buttons

[sullen dove]

on god just delete ravager

[lofty scroll]

I’m pretty sure blizz will buff again if we get all loud about the situation again lol

[oblique trail]

[marsh kiln]

Guys all delete warrior chars and go play hunter. Maybe blizzard will notice rapid decline of warrior players

[sullen dove]

and we have finally have peace

Ra good st am good aoe

[long smelt]

both sets u spam a builder then rampage

[clever belfry]

RA also ass

[wild mica]

i would if surv didnt vote for that terrible tier set

[lofty scroll]

No, no hunter for me haha

[sullen dove]

If u delete ravager it’s not so much so

what I was getting at

but just buff RA

Simple as

[long smelt]

cant buff RA if its always up

[oblique trail]

They can

[sullen dove]

u buff the damage bb/cb do

[fickle bluff]

kill ra make it buff recklessness

[oblique trail]

Just because somethings uptime is perma, doesn't mean it's as strong as it maybe should be

[candid falcon]

thoughts on tier set buff and aura buff, gamers?

[mild thunder]

Would a RA buff even help S2 more than S3?

[sullen dove]

95% reck uptime