#fury

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olive wraith
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S4 set probably woulda lowered your parses

shell jackal
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kinda crazy how good the s3 set still is in s4

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lmao

unreal onyx
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53/100 top100 logs are S3 set

sullen dove
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??? 😭

sullen tendon
sullen dove
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im aware

sullen tendon
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do you blame people who voted season 2

sullen dove
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i mean sure i dont really care cause arms owns

sullen tendon
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yea im playing arms this season

sullen dove
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but was not expecting to just see my shid in a video

sullen tendon
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cause season 2 fury sucks

unreal onyx
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i know that voice

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but I don't remember a name to it

sullen tendon
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its that IZEN guy

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hes been popping up in my reccomedned

sullen dove
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hmm i wasnt asked permission surely i can sue this guy for every dollar he's worth hmmNod

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either way still funy

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i think this second one is my ss too

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im getting farmed deadge

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either way it 13k diff not 8k diff

olive wraith
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You’re not the only one that was advocating s3. The people that voted just copiumed on blizz tuning correctly

sullen tendon
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i never understood their reasoning. unless blizzard completely redesigned season 2 fury it would still suck

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the bloodthirst stacking just doesnt work

olive wraith
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Nah there were ways to buff it properly

sullen tendon
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it feels bad to play

olive wraith
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The damage amp needed to go way up though

forest owl
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people more mad at people believing what blizzard said than being pissed at blizzard lying.

sullen tendon
olive wraith
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Hope for the best prepare for the worst

unreal onyx
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i have no hopes for fury

olive wraith
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They can’t even see vdh is beyond broken

sullen tendon
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pray they dont fuck up the fury rework in tww

unreal onyx
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"you still have a good performing spec in your class"

sullen tendon
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middle of the path is good apparently

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all paladins have to do is bitch as a collective for 1 tier and they will get a rework every expansion

buoyant blade
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WHY IS FURY SO FKIN BAD

dense elbow
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Wdum? I am topping meters

undone quartz
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I do well with my old s3 set still i dont have the new set just 2 pcs. without the full that is a mess for sure lol

dense elbow
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I am just full S3

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Still does good dam

unreal onyx
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im using S4 in m+

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it's aight

dense elbow
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ye, in m+ everything alright

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you can even chose if you want to go s3 or s4

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and its basically the same

unreal onyx
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I am either unlucky with pug mates

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or ret is dogwater in m+ ST

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pretty much every time I had a ret in my pugs they were doing absolutely horrible on bosses

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aoe they're fine, but ST oh man

dense elbow
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Worse than us? Neat

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To be fair, S3 ST is actually kinda strong still

unreal onyx
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I had 3 keys with them back to back and all of them were doing barely over tank dps

dense elbow
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Tank dps?

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on ST?

unreal onyx
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yes

dense elbow
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Nah nah nah

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you found some real trashadins

modest kernel
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Go rank 1

unreal onyx
dense elbow
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Noooo! My 298k dps wipe on Rash would be 100!

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stupid game

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What build did you go btw, RoniN - S3 or S4?

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Also, it was HC logs, I feel bamboozled

unreal onyx
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cheesed DPS

dense elbow
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I wont judge any Fury warriors to cheeze atm

unreal onyx
dense elbow
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What is a bit annoying with this strat tho - is that it will make us look better than we are on logs ._.

unreal onyx
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all of the kills are cheesed with grieftorch

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I wouldn't be surprised if that were boost runs

dense elbow
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Explains the decent logs with S4 gear

unreal onyx
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sure looks like it

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the frost DK going crazy with the ilvl log

dense elbow
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Hah

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He gonna bring that to his friends after

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#1 baby

clever belfry
unreal onyx
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wdym boohoo?

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people going for logs and are not boosters do more than 1 run per week

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idk where the crying part comes from

clever belfry
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people doing multiple hc runs in a week for hc logs aren't "people"

unreal onyx
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Roidstack

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yet he only managed 90s max

hardy cargo
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lowkey miss his shitposting

clever belfry
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proving my point easily

dense elbow
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Roidstack, to be fair, was too busy chugging down raw chicken to get the 99 - gotta minmax the gains

unreal onyx
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he's still gaming? I thought we lost him

summer quail
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yeye, he's just not here anymore

clever belfry
hardy cargo
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didnt he receive das boot

sullen dove
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free bomani

clever belfry
summer quail
sullen dove
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ya i mean he just yapped

dense elbow
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We all yap peepostudy

sullen dove
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yapping only crime

hardy cargo
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yapajars of yaphold

left perch
summer quail
dense elbow
clever belfry
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second i dont know anything about

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one of his alts was banned, in fact

summer quail
barren dagger
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bomani gone?

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gala gone?

left perch
barren dagger
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roidstack gone?

summer quail
left perch
barren dagger
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gala cooking probably

summer quail
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aye, or talking about his bff dreams with warrior players and/or getting alpha access

unkempt grotto
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Do we only get +1 boullion next week?

frank dawn
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Yep. 1 per week

dense elbow
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sadge no upgrade before in another week after

barren dagger
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next week second craft tho?

unkempt grotto
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yep

barren dagger
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boots enjoyer myself

celest sierra
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Man I hate this 7 day wait for restoring items . I restored a head piece and now I can’t replace because the enchant scales with the ili -_-

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Gotta wait 7 days to correct that scaling

sullen dove
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wha

dapper goblet
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what x2

celest sierra
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Restored my t3 set but I accidentally brought back the helm. The helm is the only piece ima upgrade cause of the enchant . So now I’m stuck with the s3 helm instead of using any other 500+ helm

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The hands chest legs and shoulders ima be using s3

sullen dove
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you intended to restore your s3 helmet and are now using the s3 helmet? is the issue you wanted to restore other s3 pieces?

celest sierra
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Yeh I wanted to restore the other pieces except the helm. I plan on using an upgraded helm cause of the enchant

sullen dove
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unfort

gilded pawn
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Why you vendor them in first place

celest sierra
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Stupid that it’s a 7 day cd for item restoration . Goes to show don’t restore while mid +13 lmao

gilded pawn
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Are you that down bad for 1k gold

celest sierra
celest sierra
celest sierra
sullen dove
empty mirage
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finally got the puzzle box drop

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wait the puzzle box is better than the trampling hooves whaaa

olive wraith
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It’s a lot of mastery

empty mirage
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big cooldown tho

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noly gonna use it every few packs

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ig it lasts a decently long time

olive wraith
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Covers full duration of your buffs

empty mirage
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that is fair

frank dawn
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The cast time is annoying af tho now that it’s on gcd

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Like before you could whirlwind/box at the same time and it was barely longer than your gcd to setup the burst

empty mirage
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im just casting it at a distance and charging in and doing my normal burst

frank dawn
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Yeh fair

valid moon
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What should I craft with my first spark?

covert blaze
valid moon
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Patch?

radiant plank
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bsl

valid moon
olive wraith
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I have bsl for arms

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Patch might be good for fury since st is weak

tardy lark
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patch wont save its ST detective

meager void
tardy lark
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Even bad-ish uptime on BSL is still better than any other option. It’s not black and white though. You’ll obviously lose a lot of value if the buff isn’t up during CDs. That’s where good defensive usage and hands come into play

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In short: get good and it isn’t a gamble

dapper goblet
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🧎‍♂️

ebon junco
meager void
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Tbf, its 1shots because gnome didnt move/interrupt more than any rot

covert blaze
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I 100% agree with what aagard said and what tmy has been saying

deft jewel
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Is it best to always hold Puzzle Box for cooldowns?

radiant plank
meager void
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so a what would a "get gut" BSL uptime look for simming? Its default 40%.
80%?

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i could warcraft logs it tbf, lemme check

hasty path
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not ret sucking

radiant plank
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and on fury its easier to maintain the uptime on it

celest sierra
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Guys I took care of our Fury problem for us

wispy dock
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@celest sierra much appreciated.. surely blizz will listen

celest sierra
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🙏🙏

deft jewel
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I want to keep my raging blow. 😰

celest sierra
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Well right now it’s not Raging blow . It’s hits more so like Angry blow or slightly annoyed blow

deft jewel
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They need to move it up to at least Miffed Blow.

tender cove
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What is the optimal rotation for Fury AOE in mythic+? Slapping on single target during raids although I feel that my AOE damage is seriously lacking. I'm following the Whirlwind + 4 GCD rotation and procking Bloodthirst when the percentage is over 95%, although my damage still feels low. Is there a different rotation for packs that exceed 5 mobs i.e Algethar first boss mobs?

gloomy hound
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fury doesn’t get to enjoy big pulls

tender cove
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Ah so I'm doing the rotation properly, it's just the class that is limited

frozen marten
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Blizz is fucking us, yeah

gloomy hound
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if you’re talking about pulling all the trees and plants in academy, yeah. just weep over the target count

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and laugh as a (491) bm hunter does 2 million dps

tender cove
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S3 annhilator build AOE slapped so much harder

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It's grim

olive wraith
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S3 bursted harder*

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S4 has better sustained

tender cove
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They need to give FURY ARM's aoe capabilities

wild mica
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do you have to get 2x bsl for it to be worth it or is 1 fine?

tender cove
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and it would be insane

compact knot
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they need to give fury arms st capabilities

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fury aoe is fun and isnt half bad

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well none of it isnt fun IMO, its damage is just a bit lackluster on ST

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and like every boss in aberrus is ST which just puts us in a bad spot

modest condor
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if a spec is target capped it should be absolutely demolishing uncapped specs on that targetcount

wild mica
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that's never going to happen unfortunately

celest sierra
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The most annoying part honestly is there hasn’t been any word from Blizz or any type of patch notes for tuesdays reset . Maybe we will get buffed who knows

zealous condor
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yeah I mean even if fury doesnt its still playable

wild mica
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its fated season, i fully expect them to be completely hands off

clever path
warm talon
keen kindle
oblique trail
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@limber swan 👋

limber swan
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🤝

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we meet again eventually

oblique trail
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When the stars align once more

clever path
noble elm
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Imagine blizz buffing warriors

paper ivy
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essence or signet crit vers ring? which would u choose

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as ret

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gotta mention that it has socket

forest owl
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Sir this is the fury warrior discord clueless

valid drum
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We might as well all reroll till tww

wild mica
clever path
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how hard is HM DOTI? like what key level would it be compared to?

wild mica
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I've seen people throw around 28 from last season

modest condor
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that sounds about accurate

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definitely a lot harder than current season +10

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but no timer so it's chill

gilded pawn
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Just need to live bosses yeah

paper ivy
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Which is kinda stronger than my main 😦

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We really need a good tuning

valid moon
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What talents we use if we have last season and this season tier? 2 + 2

agile marsh
valid moon
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Ok 👍

manic gulch
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and after that the difficulty skyrockets

unborn rover
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what armor slots are you all putting shadowflame on?

agile marsh
covert blaze
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boots are another option

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And you don't feel bad about rolling a socket on waist or wrists early on

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Plus you can flex vers wrists

unborn rover
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cool cool. Any changes to stat priority? Or are we still haste mastery?

sour tundra
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Fury buffs this tuesday? peepo

quiet geyser
chilly fractal
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Fury Owns copium

soft swift
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Hey, im having an issue where i cannot use Onslaught when im in raid or dungeons. For some reason it appears to work when targets are moving, but every now and then it just refuses to work 😢 . Has anybody experienced this? Is there anything i could do?

deft jewel
fallen pecan
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feeling pretty good about this :)

sullen dove
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grats

agile marsh
young swan
sullen dove
open prairie
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are your icons bugged

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or is that mw above both a dev and prot pal

young swan
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the joys of low keys

oblique trail
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I find no joy in low keys

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misery

young swan
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just log off brother bear

oblique trail
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I'm desperate

young swan
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not socketed

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curious

oblique trail
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I am not

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gonna spend an extra 4-500g on a 451 ring

young swan
oblique trail
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Staying rich mindset

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(I spent 150k on nelth trinket)

fallen pecan
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i will say that i diffed another fury warrior who had 500+ weps in the heroics i was doing

oblique trail
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Powerful

fallen pecan
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yes ik just heroics but i've been trying to get into keys and no luck still :( (i dont like making groups)

young swan
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very powerful

oblique trail
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You'll get there eventually

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At first it can be a fairly steep hill, but before you know it you'll do M+

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I personally never make groups either and just test my patience queuing for random groups

young swan
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earlier this week i applied to 70 keys without an invite

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so

fallen pecan
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i will say one thing i did try with the school dungeon (idk names :,) )

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and i got my ass ate

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i gotta watch guides xd

oblique trail
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Algethar is fun when you know the dungeon

fallen pecan
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these are defo more difficult than shadowlands

fallen pecan
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maybe was a bad group?

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idk

oblique trail
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Speaking from recent personal experience, m0 groups can be very rough

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And hit or miss

fallen pecan
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yeah

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i had a goated tank right before i quit that i used to dou with all the time

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they dont play anymore so its a shame ;(

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carried groups right through m0 to 22

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where i topped out

open prairie
oblique trail
open prairie
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huh

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why hunter

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also how tf does it have a 528 bow

oblique trail
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because MM is fun

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Also I've played on it the past few days

open prairie
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it gets into pugs?

oblique trail
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It does

open prairie
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surprising

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@oblique trail cant you make 486 crafted ring with enchanted whelp

oblique trail
open prairie
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H O W

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im impressed you managed to get it into wyrm and aspect content yet have no wyrms

oblique trail
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I shrimply just forgor about the whelp crest

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I have wyrms

open prairie
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did you pug your own key

oblique trail
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nop

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I have not done it full solo ofc

open prairie
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tbh figured thats how you geared it

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i should figure out what to bullion on dh

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speaking of alts

oblique trail
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I just grieftorched it

open prairie
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i was thinking that too but

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torching first gcd sounds sus

oblique trail
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not really

open prairie
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oh as vdh its prob fine

gilded pawn
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is banezi a dh main again

open prairie
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doesnt look like it

wispy dock
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representing where i can

open prairie
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i saw a warrior buy smolderon sword

oblique trail
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my DH is used for VIP runs

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That's it

open prairie
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vip?

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grug wa?

oblique trail
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boosts

cobalt halo
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for dungeon sim it is usually patchwork 5 target right but is it 1 minute or 1 minute 30 i forget

open prairie
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i also saw a 12/12 ashkandur

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which seems like a waste when fyralath

oblique trail
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Not everyone has Fyr'alath, or are close to getting it

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So Ashkandur isn't a necessarily bad short term purchase

oblique trail
robust basin
open prairie
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actually how do you get fyralath

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if you didnt get it in s3

clever path
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even if it's not awakened

open prairie
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yeah but finding people to do that

wild mica
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i've been doing that for sark on my aug

oblique trail
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There are quite a few doing it

clever path
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btw, doesn anyone know if HM gear can appear in vault or no?

wild mica
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its surprisingly not that difficult. tuesdays always have a bunch of groups going for it

open prairie
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it lowkey felt like everyone and their mother had towards end of s3

wild mica
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i wish they like 10x the drop rate though for people who dont have it at this point, I feel bad for them

wispy dock
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agreed gimme leggo plz

open prairie
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idk if its doing more this season

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or just because gear is lower atm

mild ravine
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are there any good streamers streaming fury?

wispy dock
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noxxic is the only one

mild ravine
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thank you, I'll follow him

wispy dock
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i think he spells it like noxxiv or something

clever path
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Does anyone know if HM gear can appear in weekly vault or no?

oblique trail
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Have not seen anyone share Hardmode gear in their vault no, and it would not make sense either since it's M+ specific gear you get from the vault slots

covert blaze
oblique trail
covert blaze
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???

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are you capped

oblique trail
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nop

covert blaze
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do like

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4 wqs

sullen dove
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fly thru green balls in dreamsurge

covert blaze
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that too

clever path
oblique trail
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Yeah but they contribute to the M+ loot pool from the vault

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Just like my hunter doing Timewalking dungeons while leveling, I had a vault with M+ loot when it reached 70

cobalt laurel
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is fury's gcd faster than arms?

gilded pawn
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yes because you have free haste

cobalt laurel
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oh? where do we get that

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i type haste into talents, 3 diff things, just those?

gilded pawn
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yes

eternal sundial
oblique trail
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At some point you start ramping hard

sullen dove
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its impossible solo

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but if u got friends to boost thru keys

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zero to hero in like 5 hours

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ez

oblique trail
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Ya I mean I'm not gonna gear a new char from scratch solo

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I don't have the patience for that

sullen dove
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i feel like im playing solo on my dragon

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did a neltharus with guild, spoils dropped for tank in holy spec, rolled between me and a mage and mage already has a champ track one

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and he just wins the roll

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yes very important he gets his champion > hero track upgrade

oblique trail
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This is progress after like 2~ days roughly of loosely playing

sullen dove
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vs me just not having it at all

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bitch

oblique trail
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Which like tbf

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Me getting 4p and both bis trinkets on same day is a bit lucky xd

sullen dove
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xdd

eternal sundial
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Since i cba drag guildies into +2s or M0 n shit

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It's rancid

oblique trail
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The initial jump up to LFR takes no time

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You can buy almost full 451 pvp gear, do the weekly quest and get a few 480 pieces from that

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And other random bits

eternal sundial
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Yes but id have to buy the stupid items and already cba

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Just dont have the mental for it

oblique trail
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fair fair

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not a bit alt player myself

eternal sundial
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If ur not like 480 from last tier it's annoying as shit

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My alt war was like 477, but lego so i can throw him away

obtuse steeple
eternal sundial
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I would invite famous hunter banszi

oblique trail
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Few would

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Based on my personal experience all night

eternal sundial
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The german scandinavian system welcomes you @oblique trail

obtuse steeple
# eternal sundial I would invite famous hunter banszi

yeah let's be honest ya phil we are in a world these days you get hired based on who you knows not what is your degree or qualification , when there is someone with both like benzai the heaven will be open for him .

eternal sundial
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I got hired to my job without connections what can I say..

gilded pawn
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same

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getting the role in tmys discord with 0 connections

still swift
eternal sundial
obtuse steeple
eternal sundial
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Post

eternal sundial
still swift
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you just said some weird things

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reconsider what you said

south kayak
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Yo Nina

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Sup

eternal sundial
still swift
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Hi boxbox

south kayak
south kayak
still swift
south kayak
still swift
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Also ur Box 27

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that's like

south kayak
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It’s 28 now critcake

oblique trail
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Nina sim my frcking character

still swift
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boxboxboxboxboxboxboxboxboxboxboxboxboxboxboxboxboxboxboxboxboxboxboxboxboxboxbox

still swift
south kayak
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Yo Phil I wanted to show you my transmog

still swift
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currently out to the vampires

eternal sundial
south kayak
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I posted on the channel, can you tell me what you think

still swift
eternal sundial
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Cant find

oblique trail
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Raven is cooking something fierce

south kayak
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Lmao

still swift
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raven is building up

eternal sundial
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@south kayak ur char also looks 128

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With that mog

south kayak
obtuse steeple
# eternal sundial It's a job frfr

let's give you an example of nepotism & the role of connections/reference in our lovely channel , take this new Yellow name '' Hrothmar '' the guy literally got his yellow name because one of his uncles in here 100% if you go to the search , type his name to know his contribution it's just 16884 whereas if you check banzei it's 168641 , that means he did 10% of the efforts of banzai just to get a yellow name , whereas banzai always been here from day 1 helping people day and night without ghosting them , so literally Hrothmar = 0.1 Banzai and he got a yellow name . if that is fair then we are doomed .

eternal sundial
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@still swift Arbeit geht gleich los... medge

still swift
oblique trail
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Measured in messages sent

still swift
oblique trail
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yes

eternal sundial
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I agree with nina

still swift
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and hrothmar only posts useful helpful messages

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very good guy

south kayak
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Are his uncles here

still swift
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are the uncles in the room with us right now

south kayak
still swift
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must have been before I adopted him

obtuse steeple
# still swift and hrothmar only posts useful helpful messages

not really , he is a nice guy but not deserving the title of yellow name . i don't know where were you back in the days when banzei were answering every question , also jakey is a helping machine both earned their titles based on dedication , but to put a random guy recently like ''Hrothmar'' a yellow name is kinda absurd . the guy is not even convincing

south kayak
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I don’t know why it matters

still swift
south kayak
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Hrothmar is fine

iron portal
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I saw many yellows come and go

obtuse steeple
iron portal
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But they def had couple 10s of thousand messages

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👀

iron portal
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Not everybody that is helpfull needs to be yellow

south kayak
iron portal
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i guide others to a treasure i cannot possess

still swift
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Vampire visit done @oblique trail

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omw home

oblique trail
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pog

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I pressed CDs with no misdirect

still swift
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CDs nuts

oblique trail
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ok

south kayak
oblique raft
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what

south kayak
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wha

oblique raft
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wha

steady sierra
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Is S4 tier as crappy as the Youtubers say? Compared to s3.

south kayak
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Yes

steady sierra
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😵‍💫

still swift
oblique trail
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gguky

unreal onyx
fleet sorrel
south kayak
clever belfry
oblique trail
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But I also just played bad

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wcyd

violet cedar
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Is it possible to get a higher rank of the shikaari huntress arrowhead? Is veteran the highest?

clever belfry
violet cedar
clever belfry
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🤷‍♂️ i got a champ track one from the obsidian citadel assault box within a box shit

hallow sphinx
clever belfry
unreal cosmos
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hey guys, do you take versa bracers or primal molten bracers with shadowflame patch ?

sudden tusk
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vers

radiant plank
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bsl bracers chatting

bitter palm
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bsl

unreal onyx
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bsl

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(No bsl)

radiant plank
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Trolling your dps if u go patch or vers

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instead of 2x bsl

unreal onyx
#

Huge troll

radiant plank
#

Not even yapping

#

Just sad to see fury players giveup on idea of pressing defensives to gain more dps

unreal onyx
#

What‘s the dps diff between 2x bsl with 50% uptime vs 2x sf vs 1x sf and vers bracers?

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In ST and AoE

radiant plank
#

idk drop me your gear and let me sim

#

I dont have fury gear yet

radiant plank
#

on fury

unreal onyx
#

50% is minimum

icy topaz
#

Bsl?

radiant plank
#

give me a sim of yours and let me sim

#

the comparison

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at 50% uptime

unreal onyx
#

Ofc you also could have 100%

#

Im on mobile rn deadge

radiant plank
#

hmm

#

let me go yoink someone

radiant plank
#

ye

bitter palm
#

like

#

35% is ahead

#

its unreal how overbudget bsl is

radiant plank
#

U prolly gain more in realistic situation when you reshuffle crafted stats, rings, neck and gems

unreal onyx
#

Does that %-increase also equate the same to aoe? Iirc vers gains more importance in aoe

radiant plank
#

prolly bigger in aoe tbh

unreal onyx
#

Here‘s an m+ build sim

barren dagger
#

How much does archi pay for yellow? Is the salary competitive?

unreal onyx
#

So then bsl cloak it is next reset for me to craft

radiant plank
#

here is 5 target 40s sim

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1min 8 target

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Dslice

unreal onyx
#

Bsl it is

#

I am a believer now

radiant plank
#

now u learn to press proper defensives and u ar gonna be unkillable spec in m+

unreal onyx
#

Didnt know it was that good, I thought it barely beat vers+sf with a lot more room of fuckup

jolly mist
#

i havent died to anything this season except to my own mistakes

#

sure other classes are better at mitigating but

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arms has good tools

unreal onyx
jolly mist
#

dk trying to do full room first pull on algeth 😢

grizzled granite
#

Are any of the meters addons able to track how much you been over 90% hp ?

#

That way you could see for urself if with ur playstyle you can use BSL

radiant plank
oblique trail
ebon junco
#

Well, Has anyone made the Effective Health WA

#

for S4 yet?

eternal sundial
#

Does the s3 one not work anymore or wha

ebon junco
#

S3 is a bit outdated ye

#

but here is a

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May 5th

rapid vortex
#

Anyone got any builds based around single minded fury? Wanna run it for the meme but not sure what talents would flow together well

eternal sundial
#

Take good talents

#

Remove 1 better talent

#

Grab smf

#

Do less damage for amazing drip

rapid vortex
#

transmog is endgame i guess haha

eternal sundial
#

Cuz with smf ur endgame is definitely not doing damage

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Cuz no lego or ashkandur

rapid vortex
#

yea ive not got lego so cba to play the class properly

eternal sundial
#

If you wanna troll hard try gholak

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P good 1h

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Maybe council agi claw idk

ebon junco
#

Gholak + Forgestorm

rapid vortex
#

will look out for that thanks

forest owl
#

no activity for 3 hrs here, everyone went arms deadge

lost pasture
#

Everyone is deep in prayer for buffs tomorrow

half cargo
#

Real talk, you don’t want buffs

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That way they can buff you in war within season 1

#

Guarantee you arms is gonna be bad next tier

lost pasture
#

But in WW I'm going back to healing on my priest!

half cargo
#

Rip

young needle
#

why did we vote for season 2 tier? we can only count to 2?

summer quail
#

people voted it for because they prefer that playstyle

silent burrow
#

Definitely most fun playstyle

young needle
#

ill agree a little bit

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but just because i can only count to 2.

silent burrow
meager void
#

"Don't vote for power, vote for playstyle as there will be tuning"

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(There could be tho, cope)

sullen tendon
ornate perch
#

Is SMF any way at all viable?

sullen tendon
hasty path
#

It is a significantly worse build in terms of damage thoguh

summer quail
unreal cosmos
#

hey guys, what do you do in m+ right now with 4p, you take the uproar road or still trying to get shockwave ?

ornate perch
hasty path
sullen tendon
hasty path
sullen tendon
#

Now everyone has to play arms

unreal cosmos
summer quail
lost pasture
hasty path
forest grove
#

Take shockwave and uproar

silent burrow
#

lol dude is yapping

forest grove
#

Drop champion's spear

sullen tendon
# silent burrow what lol

Back when the vote was going on some guys on YouTube made videos talking about how good season 2 fury will be with tuning and convinced a shit ton of people to vote for it in the us.

sullen tendon
#

Anyone who played season 2 should understand how shit it was

silent burrow
#

We literally all loved it

summer quail
summer grove
#

I enjoyed s3. What they should've done is offer the season 4 tier but also the tier of each season. Don't like the season 4? Great, here's other options for you.

Also takes care of the fuckery troll/meme voting.

sullen tendon
#

You love doing -20% single target to do 3% more aoe?

lost pasture
#

I do wish that we had S3 set. But no amount of complaining is gonna fix that now. All we can hope is that we get some buffs and maybe a slight retool of the 4 set to stack faster

rustic haven
silent burrow
summer quail
#

mans is just super angry about s3 not winning

silent burrow
#

If they redid the vote tomorrow I'd vote s2 again lol

sullen tendon
#

No amount of tuning would make season 2 good. The Innate design of season 2 set sucked.

silent burrow
#

That's just incorrect.

eternal sundial
#

50% on 2p on top

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Fixed

forest grove
#

I wish the 2p part of s2 set was different

summer grove
#

I'm conditioned to hit BT on CD and not wait

forest grove
#

Pretty unexciting bonus and it felt bad when I didnt have 4p

sullen tendon
#

I love having to hit my filler button 700 times because I can’t hit the button my tier set makes it so I can’t

#

Raging blow should be removed from the game

chilly fractal
#

The buff to our tier really needs to be something special

#

And actually happen

sullen tendon
#

S3 is a straight upgrade to S2

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In every way

#

No raging blow

#

No ravager

#

On demand burst

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No waiti t for stacks

#

Tablet

chilly fractal
#

I’m not swapping to S4 tier until after next week… did the math on the crests I’ll get next week and it’s still not an upgrade in raid

sullen tendon
#

Tanky*

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Better aoe

#

Better st

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Consistent cool downs

#

Only downside if we had s3 would be not having might of the ocean. And that can be supplemented with other trinkets.

modest condor
lost pasture
#

Ladies ladies you're both pretty

modest condor
lost pasture
#

We got S2 deal with it

modest condor
#

you say that as if getting s2 is bad

sullen tendon
#

It’s just funny seeing all the people who pressured people to vote s2 playing arms now

modest condor
#

yeah it's kinda funny to see blizzard not stick to their words

frozen marten
#

Blizzard: Announce Fury buffs, you cowards

lost pasture
#

I just don't like the play style of ignoring the stacks. It seems like the set was specifically built around ignoring our talents.

modest condor
#

btw did you know that both biz and crit are playing fury right now?

sullen tendon
#

That’s not the problem

modest condor
#

oh and noxiv too

sullen tendon
#

S2 would suck with or without tuning

modest condor
#

no it would definitely not suck with tuning

#

hell even now it doesnt suck

#

it's just undertuned

lost pasture
#

But it works and I'll use it. I did prefer the hoard of passives that was S3

shy knot
#

Doesnt it suck only ST

sullen tendon
#

Is it the set that doesn’t suck or the talents that don’t suck

modest condor
#

they go hand in hand

shell jackal
#

sims aside what stats do we wanna prio? i swear in s2 it was haste/mastery mainly

#

and in s3 it shifted to vers/mastery

#

like if i'm going 4pc tier then what pieces do i want for my tertiaries ideally, again i'll still sim it either way

lost pasture
#

I'm still trying to hit 60% mastery. I'm at 45% now and just from last week at ~30 my DPS has shot up. I'd say mastery to 60 then vers or haste

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But I don't know what's actually supposed to be BiS

sullen dove
#

3% dps loss 10 ilvl diff btw to reuse s3 tier

#

“set is good guys”

shell jackal
#

i'm using the s3 set sadge

lofty scroll
#

it's not the fault of s2 voters as to why the semi new set sucks. i voted s3, and it's blizzards fault as to why the tiers set sucks lol

#

i believe its getting buffed tomorrow

chilly fractal
#

Pass me some of that hope brother

sullen dove
#

they’ll just nerf s3 set

#

so they’re not as close anymore

#

classic blizzard move

lofty scroll
#

right! haha but through the grapevine people are already saying it, not that its true but i have high hopes. now how much we get buffed is another issue.

#

buff rampage!!!!!!!!!

sullen dove
#

5k dps buff inc

sullen tendon
#

Unless they remove the rampage stacking it’s still ass

lofty scroll
#

hahah

#

i hope they do something meaningful

modest condor
#

nerfing the s3 set doesnt move fury up from lowest st dps in raid

sullen tendon
#

It’s almost like there are public test realms where they could experiment with solutions but refuse to

chilly fractal
#

Yea I mean the only play is Blizzard buffing our current set

sullen dove
#

no it doesn’t but it curbs the comparison between last set and this so more people are incentivized to swap to new set

#

saying that’s something blizz has done before many times

#

admittedly not 2 weeks into the season

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typically just before a new season

#

but haha funny meme

modest condor
#

they can do that with specs that are performing fine (altho people wont be happy with it), but fury isn't performing fine

sullen dove
#

of them not doing shit

modest condor
#

so that makes no sense

sullen tendon
#

Aren’t a bunch of specs still using s3 over what they voted. And 2pc 2pc

sullen dove
#

i think it’s worse for surv that ACTUALLY wears s3 tier in m+

#

all the time

#

just weird how multiple specs of ppl voting for wrong set

modest condor
#

yes a couple are

lofty scroll
#

yeah the worst sets are balance, survival and fury

sullen dove
#

think frost dk is also maybe a little Madge

sullen tendon
sullen dove
#

or maybe it’s blood

sullen dove
sullen tendon
#

Also blizzard is dumb for not making votes per account.

sullen dove
#

buff exe by 500%

modest condor
#

there was no botting, people used multiple characters on the same account to vote (which s3 voters did as well btw)

lofty scroll
#

i play unholy the most but i want a break from all the buttons. not talking about furys button pressing if i make sense

modest condor
#

if just 10 people with 50 characters on their account vote that's 500 votes already

sullen tendon
modest condor
#

when the total amount of votes is that low it makes a huge difference

lofty scroll
#

haha

proud vessel
#

tbf i voted s2 with the expectation they would balance shit if i knew this i'd have voted s3

#

But i do like the playstyle of s2 for m+

barren dagger
#

You guys didn’t vote with all your characters for your favourite set (season 2) ?

sullen dove
#

s2 only good m+

sullen tendon
#

Barely

proud vessel
#

I only play m+ xD

lofty scroll
#

i like OD's playstyle in m+

#

to me it was so much easier

modest condor
lofty scroll
#

i mean OF's

sullen tendon
#

S2 is good in m+ until you pop your cool downs and the tank moves the mobs 10 feet away

sullen dove
#

yea and even still fury generally cheeks m+ but that’s less the set and more we just aren’t the best in 5 targets like we should be

modest condor
#

sounds like a skill issue then

plucky ice
#

the whole voting thing was a big fail it shouldve been one vote per account lmao. amateurs

lofty scroll
#

god i gotta wake up lol

sullen dove
#

fury wet towel against giant algethar type pulls

bitter palm
ivory crow
#

I missed the s2 play style during all of s3 ... now I kinda wish we had s3 again lol

lofty scroll
#

right lol

sullen tendon
#

Better start learning arms

chilly fractal
#

Blizzard needs to give me a reason to do above an 8-10 for M+ to be seen as just a chore

sullen dove
#

i mean not rly u do a 10 for max vault

chilly fractal
#

It’s just a chore

sullen dove
#

anything higher is your choice

#

no one cares

#

it’s just an io minigame

modest condor
#

i mean if you're not having fun then why would you want blizzard to give you a reason to do it?

bitter palm
#

anything above 10 means nothing

sullen dove
#

plenty of ppl do the keys just to flex big number

bitter palm
#

revvez doesnt do m+

#

and he is the goat

#

he doesnt push*

#

the only time i remember him pushing was s4 shadowlands and he was playing necro prot

#

and im not even sure if he was pushing

lofty scroll
modest condor
subtle nova
#

does anybody know the soft caps on stats for fury?

modest condor
#

there are none

subtle nova
#

whaaaaa

#

fr?

hardy cargo
modest condor
#

soft caps are an outdated concept

#

just sim top gear and equip what sims highest

bitter palm
#

and run droptimizer to know what to look for

subtle nova
#

ait ty

lofty scroll
bitter palm
lofty scroll
#

in general

bitter palm
#

yeah having to spam m+ on release isnt good imo but i prefer it over praying for rng in raid

plucky ice
#

playing wow competitively is a fail unless u get paid to do it

lofty scroll
#

hahah yeah i can see that lol

regal grotto
#

👀

bitter palm
#

people gain satisfaction from pulling off high numbers

shy knot
#

Playing to see big brown number on details >>>>

bitter palm
#

parses, overalls etc

hardy cargo
shy knot
#

And small pink number

bitter palm
#

like in other games such as cs or valorant or league

lofty scroll
bitter palm
#

people play them for elo and nothing else

regal grotto
#

Playing competitively is fun aswell

plucky ice
#

atleast cs is balances unless u play against hackers lmao

#

balanced*

regal grotto
#

Though not everyone will agree with that

bitter palm
#

fury doesn't compete with mage

lofty scroll
#

no they dont

bitter palm
#

fury competes with fury

plucky ice
#

what, no

sullen dove
#

good luck finding 2 furies in a key

plucky ice
#

nobody cares if u compete with furys when u do less dmg than others in grp

regal grotto
#

Why compare one class to another when they all have completely different methods of dps for st and aoe

bitter palm
#

ur parses are compared to other players of the same spec

#

in m+ its a different story

sullen dove
#

if you’re rank 1 fury and you’re doing bottom dps in the raid are you good

plucky ice
#

yea but when ur 100 parse is 50k less than some other class ur spec is still shit

sullen dove
#

or is your spec good ig

bitter palm
#

but in highest keys people swap regularly and as it turns out warriors are very rarely good

graceful bay
#

Let's be real, the one's who are actually playing competitive are playing the classes capable of being competitive. The rest are just coping with excuses.

plucky ice
#

yes

bitter palm
graceful bay
sullen dove
static root
#

rank 1 fury on rashok is 312k dps, that is rank 238 for arms deadge

sullen dove
#

damn clearing ce means you’re good I didn’t know that, my guild is good then

#

surely

sullen dove
regal grotto
#

Statistically a small part of the community gets CE

sullen dove
#

yea

#

ik it’s still small but it doesn’t feel like it

#

4 months on 2 bosses

summer quail
regal grotto
#

so that atleast puts you ahead of the average player

bitter palm
#

it isnt that small

sullen dove
graceful bay
lofty scroll
#

i dont think the guilds will allow you to play in that spec which is fury

shy knot
#

If you want to play warrior in competitive way pvp is the way (or maybe raid)

#

Arms S tier almost every season

summer quail
sullen dove
#

i mean it’s plenty playable in m+, maybe not mdi worthy speed killing but noxiv went high as hell last season

noble frost
#

sorry to check around
so is it i suck
or fury st in raid kinda poo poo

bitter palm
noble frost
#

compared to arms of course

sullen dove
#

the latter for sure but possibly the first too can’t rule anything out hmmNod but yea arms better

bitter palm
#

raid

regal grotto
#

Wasn’t one of the top dps in world 1st a fury warrior last season

ember apex
#

what's this 10.2.7 patch tomorrow. are they fixing fury

graceful bay
sullen dove
#

clueless for sure

noble frost
sullen dove
#

carlo will save fury

noble frost
#

on sims it seemed lower somehow?

ember apex
#

ngl, i did 2 arms keys this weekend

noble frost
bitter palm
sullen dove
#

eh maybe a lil bit but idk some fights can b weird

hasty path
#

Even your average CE player struggles

sullen dove
#

1082…

graceful bay
hasty path
#

^

hasty path
bitter palm
#

i doubt the average wow player even raids lfr

sullen dove
#

world rank…

plucky ice
#

think theres a lot who could do CE but wont because the time sink is too high

hasty path
ember apex
#

i raided lfr week 1 for tier and to help cap crests

hasty path
#

My entire guild works full time

#

We are top 400 world

#

Raiding 6-7hrs a week tops

plucky ice
#

i mean not everyone is looking for wiping 400 times on a single boss

summer quail
bitter palm
#

not everyone wants to come back from work to raid

summer quail
#

they just don't want to

plucky ice
#

its a fking waste of time for low reward

summer quail
#

or does not think they can

hasty path
plucky ice
#

just an opinion

bitter palm
graceful bay
hasty path
#

We have like 4 people in my raid who push beyond weekly keys

bitter palm
#

competitive games rarely have rewards

hasty path
#

The rest just raid for the sake of enjoying prog

sullen dove
#

it’s also just the lower in ranks you go it takes longer and and is just a way worse experience

#

im sure if your average joe was good enough to raid like top 500 and they joined a guild above that level they’d be fine

plucky ice
#

maybe ive played for too long but wiping 300+ times isnt something enjoayable

summer quail
sullen dove
#

but u don’t join those guilds without some amount of prog so u join the 1000+ses

#

and then it’s ass

hasty path
#

Our highest pull count this tier was around 290 for fyrakk

bitter palm
#

3s seeds deadge

hasty path
graceful bay
modest condor
#

you cant really compare CE in wow with a marathon

sullen dove
#

i mean you can buy one of them

graceful bay
#

You're acting like you could pull your average person out of m+ and have them immediately succeed in CE.......big head dent.

bitter palm
#

for 7 bazillion bobux

bitter palm
#

the average player barely plahs the game

#

they run for transmogs and do m0s

#

maybe lfr

sullen dove
#

pet battles xan xan xan

bitter palm
#

and have 19 alts

#

and do quests

final birch
#

am I average

regal grotto
#

I think by that metric you can probably assume that they wouldn’t succeed in mythic

bitter palm
#

u are noob!

final birch
#

what is that word

bitter palm
hardy cargo
#

haha! everyone laugh at the noob!!!!!!

tender cairn
#

u wish u were at my level

#

bozo

plucky ice
#

numba wan

hasty path
plucky ice
#

very good

tender cairn
bitter palm
tender cairn
#

ngl

bitter palm
#

professions

hasty path
bitter palm
#

quests m0s for mats etc

final birch
#

im in some fb groups and u can see people are giga casuals

modern fractal
#

might be a common question, but is there anyway to always keep the red glowing alert things around my character for rampage all the time if i can use it? I know it goes away after a few moments even if I can still use rampage. I want it up all the time if I can use it.

hasty path
#

Vs iirc 1000% or more on mythic and heroic

final birch
#

looking for people to run +3's

modest condor
#

i bet you can solo tank rashok on lfr as a dps

tender cairn
bitter palm
#

bdk could live it on mythic

tender cairn
hasty path
tender cairn
#

they could

#

(cheat death once)

hasty path
#

It was literally tens of millions of damage

tender cairn
hasty path
#

Cheat has a limit

tender cairn
#

o

#

rly?

regal grotto
#

Sounds like a skill issue

hasty path
#

Rashok is well over that limit

tender cairn
#

til

hasty path
#

Yes every cheat death in the game has a limit

modest condor
#

cheat usually only allows you to live twice your hp or something

tender cairn
#

so cheat death is a scam

#

wow

hasty path
#

Paladins could however bubble the hits

graceful bay
bitter palm
#

istg i remember they were living it somehow to play 1 extra dps but i guess im wrong

hasty path
#

So a ppal was bis for rashok prog

sullen dove
#

I don’t think purg has a limit no?

sullen dove
#

just trinkets

hasty path
#

Definitely not

sullen dove
#

purg downside is you have to heal all the damage you got over killed by

hasty path
tender cairn
#

ik monk can live it on hc

hasty path
#

Rashok is absolutely well past that limit

tender cairn
#

but thats just monk

hasty path
tender cairn
#

stagger op

sullen dove
#

but surely u just sling 5 million death strikes

tender cairn
#

I mean I did on monk

hasty path
hasty path
sullen dove
#

deadge na

hasty path
#

I might just be misremembering

tender cairn
hasty path
#

🙂

tender cairn
#

search pandastic on AD, I dont remember which run it was

#

🙄