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53/100 top100 logs are S3 set
??? 😭
thats you
im aware
do you blame people who voted season 2
i mean sure i dont really care cause arms owns
yea im playing arms this season
but was not expecting to just see my shid in a video
cause season 2 fury sucks
its that IZEN guy
hes been popping up in my reccomedned
Dragonflight Season 4, Patch 10.2.6: Specs get their Season 4 Tier Sets, but there's a problem...some are going up 10, 20, 30 item levels...and losing DPS.
Today we're looking at the problem Blizzard created and has yet to fix
00:00 New Tier Set!
00:40 More ilvl...Less Damage?
02:20 Fury Warrior
03:23 Balance Druid
04:14 What Blizzard Said
05:0...
hmm i wasnt asked permission surely i can sue this guy for every dollar he's worth 
either way still funy
i think this second one is my ss too
im getting farmed 
either way it 13k diff not 8k diff
You’re not the only one that was advocating s3. The people that voted just copiumed on blizz tuning correctly
i never understood their reasoning. unless blizzard completely redesigned season 2 fury it would still suck
the bloodthirst stacking just doesnt work
Nah there were ways to buff it properly
it feels bad to play
The damage amp needed to go way up though
people more mad at people believing what blizzard said than being pissed at blizzard lying.
they should know better by this point
Blizz not doing things right is a constant
Hope for the best prepare for the worst
i have no hopes for fury
They can’t even see vdh is beyond broken
pray they dont fuck up the fury rework in tww
"you still have a good performing spec in your class"
middle of the path is good apparently
all paladins have to do is bitch as a collective for 1 tier and they will get a rework every expansion
WHY IS FURY SO FKIN BAD
I do well with my old s3 set still i dont have the new set just 2 pcs. without the full that is a mess for sure lol
ye, in m+ everything alright
you can even chose if you want to go s3 or s4
and its basically the same
I am either unlucky with pug mates
or ret is dogwater in m+ ST
pretty much every time I had a ret in my pugs they were doing absolutely horrible on bosses
aoe they're fine, but ST oh man
I had 3 keys with them back to back and all of them were doing barely over tank dps
yes
Go rank 1

Noooo! My 298k dps wipe on Rash would be 100!

stupid game
What build did you go btw, RoniN - S3 or S4?
Also, it was HC logs, I feel bamboozled
I wont judge any Fury warriors to cheeze atm
What is a bit annoying with this strat tho - is that it will make us look better than we are on logs ._.
all of the kills are cheesed with grieftorch
I wouldn't be surprised if that were boost runs
no one but boosters do double digit amount of hc runs in a week, boohoo
wdym boohoo?
people going for logs and are not boosters do more than 1 run per week
idk where the crying part comes from
people doing multiple hc runs in a week for hc logs aren't "people"
lowkey miss his shitposting
proving my point easily
Roidstack, to be fair, was too busy chugging down raw chicken to get the 99 - gotta minmax the gains
he's still gaming? I thought we lost him
yeye, he's just not here anymore

didnt he receive das boot
free bomani

hmhh i'm torn on bomani, he was entertaining sometimes but man did he yap
ya i mean he just yapped
We all yap 
yapping only crime
yapajars of yaphold
P sure he has like 2 alt accounts in here
yap a little bit, he yapped enough for 20+ people. mans was a yapping master

im definetly aware of 1
second i dont know anything about
one of his alts was banned, in fact
i'm not surprised, could he hold back the urge to post unseasoned chicken tho?
Ah maybe that was the one I’m thinking of
roidstack gone?
gala still alive. the 2 others are gone
yes but he did post baked beans I think lol
gala cooking probably
aye, or talking about his bff dreams with warrior players and/or getting alpha access
Do we only get +1 boullion next week?
Yep. 1 per week
no upgrade before in another week after
next week second craft tho?
yep
boots enjoyer myself
Man I hate this 7 day wait for restoring items . I restored a head piece and now I can’t replace because the enchant scales with the ili -_-
Gotta wait 7 days to correct that scaling
wha
what x2
Restored my t3 set but I accidentally brought back the helm. The helm is the only piece ima upgrade cause of the enchant . So now I’m stuck with the s3 helm instead of using any other 500+ helm
The hands chest legs and shoulders ima be using s3
you intended to restore your s3 helmet and are now using the s3 helmet? is the issue you wanted to restore other s3 pieces?
Yeh I wanted to restore the other pieces except the helm. I plan on using an upgraded helm cause of the enchant
Why you vendor them in first place
Stupid that it’s a 7 day cd for item restoration . Goes to show don’t restore while mid +13 lmao
Are you that down bad for 1k gold
Gold 😂😂😂😂😂 and I hate having my bag space cluttered
Hell no I got about 3 mill gold. I’m just a greedy fuck
Lmao that emoji 😂😂

finally got the puzzle box drop
wait the puzzle box is better than the trampling hooves whaaa
It’s a lot of mastery
big cooldown tho
noly gonna use it every few packs
ig it lasts a decently long time
Covers full duration of your buffs
that is fair
The cast time is annoying af tho now that it’s on gcd
Like before you could whirlwind/box at the same time and it was barely longer than your gcd to setup the burst
im just casting it at a distance and charging in and doing my normal burst
Yeh fair
BSL
bsl
blue silking lining is trash like you
patch wont save its ST 
Isnt BSL gambling or was that a wrong first impression?
Even bad-ish uptime on BSL is still better than any other option. It’s not black and white though. You’ll obviously lose a lot of value if the buff isn’t up during CDs. That’s where good defensive usage and hands come into play
In short: get good and it isn’t a gamble
🧎♂️
dentege
Ouch and you are 100% right
Tbf, its 1shots because gnome didnt move/interrupt more than any rot
Gambling is a very strong word in this context imo
I 100% agree with what aagard said and what tmy has been saying
Is it best to always hold Puzzle Box for cooldowns?
Skill issue
so a what would a "get gut" BSL uptime look for simming? Its default 40%.
80%?
i could warcraft logs it tbf, lemme check
thats ret players sucking
not ret sucking
Im averaging around 40% - 85% uptime on my figts on mythic as arms
and on fury its easier to maintain the uptime on it
Guys I took care of our Fury problem for us
@celest sierra much appreciated.. surely blizz will listen
🙏🙏
I want to keep my raging blow. 😰
Well right now it’s not Raging blow . It’s hits more so like Angry blow or slightly annoyed blow
They need to move it up to at least Miffed Blow.
What is the optimal rotation for Fury AOE in mythic+? Slapping on single target during raids although I feel that my AOE damage is seriously lacking. I'm following the Whirlwind + 4 GCD rotation and procking Bloodthirst when the percentage is over 95%, although my damage still feels low. Is there a different rotation for packs that exceed 5 mobs i.e Algethar first boss mobs?
fury doesn’t get to enjoy big pulls
Ah so I'm doing the rotation properly, it's just the class that is limited
Blizz is fucking us, yeah
if you’re talking about pulling all the trees and plants in academy, yeah. just weep over the target count
and laugh as a (491) bm hunter does 2 million dps
minor inconvenience blow
They need to give FURY ARM's aoe capabilities
do you have to get 2x bsl for it to be worth it or is 1 fine?
and it would be insane
wrong
they need to give fury arms st capabilities
fury aoe is fun and isnt half bad
well none of it isnt fun IMO, its damage is just a bit lackluster on ST
and like every boss in aberrus is ST which just puts us in a bad spot
if a spec is target capped it should be absolutely demolishing uncapped specs on that targetcount
that's never going to happen unfortunately
in an ideal world 😦
The most annoying part honestly is there hasn’t been any word from Blizz or any type of patch notes for tuesdays reset . Maybe we will get buffed who knows
yeah I mean even if fury doesnt its still playable
its fated season, i fully expect them to be completely hands off
Ok, is something wrong with the sims? cause this seems wrong afhttps://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/h8kbW7vgFtymg2SPLfnqST
ah but you see that would make the other specs sad and the pallys ree which blizz can't have
Blizz was last time
What seems wrong
@limber swan 👋
When the stars align once more
nevermind, I'm a dumbass and put 428/435 by mistake 🤦
Imagine blizz buffing warriors
essence or signet crit vers ring? which would u choose
as ret
gotta mention that it has socket
Sir this is the fury warrior discord 
We might as well all reroll till tww
way ahead of you
how hard is HM DOTI? like what key level would it be compared to?
I've seen people throw around 28 from last season
that sounds about accurate
definitely a lot harder than current season +10
but no timer so it's chill
Just need to live bosses yeah
I know im a warrior deciding what to pick from my alts vault paladin ret
Which is kinda stronger than my main 😦
We really need a good tuning
What talents we use if we have last season and this season tier? 2 + 2
you should never have that in the first place. Stay with the old tier set until you have 4 new
Ok 👍
not sure if they fixed it but there is a bug where the bosses get tyrannical buff if you wipe to them
and after that the difficulty skyrockets
what armor slots are you all putting shadowflame on?
wrists and waist probably
boots are another option
And you don't feel bad about rolling a socket on waist or wrists early on
Plus you can flex vers wrists
cool cool. Any changes to stat priority? Or are we still haste mastery?
Fury buffs this tuesday? 

Fury Owns 
Hey, im having an issue where i cannot use Onslaught when im in raid or dungeons. For some reason it appears to work when targets are moving, but every now and then it just refuses to work 😢 . Has anybody experienced this? Is there anything i could do?
Somewhat Indignant Blow



the joys of low keys
just log off brother bear

i will say that i diffed another fury warrior who had 500+ weps in the heroics i was doing
Powerful
yes ik just heroics but i've been trying to get into keys and no luck still :( (i dont like making groups)
very powerful
You'll get there eventually
At first it can be a fairly steep hill, but before you know it you'll do M+
I personally never make groups either and just test my patience queuing for random groups
yeah
i will say one thing i did try with the school dungeon (idk names :,) )
and i got my ass ate
i gotta watch guides xd
Algethar is fun when you know the dungeon
these are defo more difficult than shadowlands
yeah i got 0 problems in the heroics / norms
maybe was a bad group?
idk
Speaking from recent personal experience, m0 groups can be very rough
And hit or miss
yeah
i had a goated tank right before i quit that i used to dou with all the time
they dont play anymore so its a shame ;(
carried groups right through m0 to 22
where i topped out
which rat char is this
it gets into pugs?
It does
H O W
im impressed you managed to get it into wyrm and aspect content yet have no wyrms
did you pug your own key
tbh figured thats how you geared it
i should figure out what to bullion on dh
speaking of alts
I just grieftorched it
not really
oh as vdh its prob fine
is banezi a dh main again
doesnt look like it
representing where i can
i saw a warrior buy smolderon sword
boosts
for dungeon sim it is usually patchwork 5 target right but is it 1 minute or 1 minute 30 i forget
Not everyone has Fyr'alath, or are close to getting it
So Ashkandur isn't a necessarily bad short term purchase
Patchwerk 5 min 1 target is typically the best for gearing purposes, even for M+
Especially when it just goes right in the offhand when they get their Lego. Still used
you can still get from s3 raid
even if it's not awakened
yeah but finding people to do that
i've been doing that for sark on my aug
There are quite a few doing it
btw, doesn anyone know if HM gear can appear in vault or no?
its surprisingly not that difficult. tuesdays always have a bunch of groups going for it
it lowkey felt like everyone and their mother had towards end of s3
i wish they like 10x the drop rate though for people who dont have it at this point, I feel bad for them
agreed gimme leggo plz
are there any good streamers streaming fury?
noxxic is the only one
thank you, I'll follow him
i think he spells it like noxxiv or something
Does anyone know if HM gear can appear in weekly vault or no?
Have not seen anyone share Hardmode gear in their vault no, and it would not make sense either since it's M+ specific gear you get from the vault slots
craft a 486 with whelps
nop
fly thru green balls in dreamsurge
that too
i didnt know considering that even heroic dungeons can give gear now
Yeah but they contribute to the M+ loot pool from the vault
Just like my hunter doing Timewalking dungeons while leveling, I had a vault with M+ loot when it reached 70
is fury's gcd faster than arms?
yes because you have free haste
yes
Gearing a new guy is cbt
A bit but it could be worse
At some point you start ramping hard
its impossible solo
but if u got friends to boost thru keys
zero to hero in like 5 hours
ez
Ya I mean I'm not gonna gear a new char from scratch solo
I don't have the patience for that
i feel like im playing solo on my dragon
did a neltharus with guild, spoils dropped for tank in holy spec, rolled between me and a mage and mage already has a champ track one
and he just wins the roll
yes very important he gets his champion > hero track upgrade
This is progress after like 2~ days roughly of loosely playing
xdd
I log on my dh or my pala, see ilvl below lfr cutoff and log off
Since i cba drag guildies into +2s or M0 n shit
It's rancid
The initial jump up to LFR takes no time
You can buy almost full 451 pvp gear, do the weekly quest and get a few 480 pieces from that
And other random bits
Yes but id have to buy the stupid items and already cba
Just dont have the mental for it
If ur not like 480 from last tier it's annoying as shit
My alt war was like 477, but lego so i can throw him away

not really lucky , you have connections and denamarkien friends who spoil feeds you with invites .
I would invite famous hunter banszi
The german scandinavian system welcomes you @oblique trail
yeah let's be honest ya phil we are in a world these days you get hired based on who you knows not what is your degree or qualification , when there is someone with both like benzai the heaven will be open for him .
I got hired to my job without connections what can I say..
as a German I disagree
It's a job frfr
well depends most likely you got your job pre COVID-19 pandemic
Post
Ronin declared spongie funneled by scandinavian welfare, by proxy you and I are scandinavian germans or whatever
I am but the messenger of the great sage, the harbringer of higher wisdom
Hi boxbox

the names so nice you say it twice

It’s 28 now 
Nina sim my frcking character
boxboxboxboxboxboxboxboxboxboxboxboxboxboxboxboxboxboxboxboxboxboxboxboxboxboxbox
Ancient
I can once im home
Yo Phil I wanted to show you my transmog
currently out to the vampires
Lore drop?
I posted on the channel, can you tell me what you think
big lore
Ping me with it
Cant find
Raven is cooking something fierce
Lmao
raven is building up

let's give you an example of nepotism & the role of connections/reference in our lovely channel , take this new Yellow name '' Hrothmar '' the guy literally got his yellow name because one of his uncles in here 100% if you go to the search , type his name to know his contribution it's just 16884 whereas if you check banzei it's 168641 , that means he did 10% of the efforts of banzai just to get a yellow name , whereas banzai always been here from day 1 helping people day and night without ghosting them , so literally Hrothmar = 0.1 Banzai and he got a yellow name . if that is fair then we are doomed .
@still swift Arbeit geht gleich los... 
the W in maLe human stands for winner

Measured in messages sent
@warm crag GuMo
so what ur saying is banezi is a no life nerd that needs to get a life
yes
I agree with nina
Are his uncles here
are the uncles in the room with us right now
I remember when Banezi quit discord for a while
must have been before I adopted him
not really , he is a nice guy but not deserving the title of yellow name . i don't know where were you back in the days when banzei were answering every question , also jakey is a helping machine both earned their titles based on dedication , but to put a random guy recently like ''Hrothmar'' a yellow name is kinda absurd . the guy is not even convincing
I don’t know why it matters
where were you when banezi is help
Hrothmar is fine
I saw many yellows come and go
yeah but ya box you and & phil helped alot of people but you didn't get a yellow name .
I don’t care about yellow
Not everybody that is helpfull needs to be yellow
i guide others to a treasure i cannot possess
CDs nuts
ok
Begone sinner
wait wha
what
wha
wha
Is S4 tier as crappy as the Youtubers say? Compared to s3.
Yes
😵💫
i simmed my st fury vs my st arms and arms is 50k ahead :(
gguky
How dare you? Ret is the most complex spec in the game and reqires hours of dedication to master its quirks and ability interactions
Lol
Sad. 😪


maybe live
8 melee's at once moment
But I also just played bad
wcyd
Is it possible to get a higher rank of the shikaari huntress arrowhead? Is veteran the highest?
Champion exists if you get it from some of the event boxes
I got one from epic grand hunt yesterday, it was explorer rank. I upgraded to max explorer, then i transferred to veteran?? I don't know why. Upgraded to max veteran now at 502.
🤷♂️ i got a champ track one from the obsidian citadel assault box within a box shit
hey guys, do you take versa bracers or primal molten bracers with shadowflame patch ?
vers
bsl bracers 
bsl
Not even yapping
Just sad to see fury players giveup on idea of pressing defensives to gain more dps
What‘s the dps diff between 2x bsl with 50% uptime vs 2x sf vs 1x sf and vers bracers?
In ST and AoE
Also 50% is quite lowball
on fury
50% is minimum
Bsl?
ye
this is 50% uptime with your scuffed stats for BSL
U prolly gain more in realistic situation when you reshuffle crafted stats, rings, neck and gems
Does that %-increase also equate the same to aoe? Iirc vers gains more importance in aoe
prolly bigger in aoe tbh
mastery gains even more
How much does archi pay for yellow? Is the salary competitive?
So then bsl cloak it is next reset for me to craft
now u learn to press proper defensives and u ar gonna be unkillable spec in m+
Didnt know it was that good, I thought it barely beat vers+sf with a lot more room of fuckup
thats on facts
i havent died to anything this season except to my own mistakes
sure other classes are better at mitigating but
arms has good tools
I died to the mistakes of others (tank dies)
dk trying to do full room first pull on algeth 😢
Are any of the meters addons able to track how much you been over 90% hp ?
That way you could see for urself if with ur playstyle you can use BSL
BSL good? 
bsl bad
Details tracks it but not exactly when you have it active. Logs however do show you uptime, and when
Does the s3 one not work anymore or wha
S3 is a bit outdated ye
but here is a
May 5th
Anyone got any builds based around single minded fury? Wanna run it for the meme but not sure what talents would flow together well
Take good talents
Remove 1 better talent
Grab smf
Do less damage for amazing drip
transmog is endgame i guess haha
yea ive not got lego so cba to play the class properly
Gholak + Forgestorm
will look out for that thanks
no activity for 3 hrs here, everyone went arms 
Everyone is deep in prayer for buffs tomorrow
Real talk, you don’t want buffs
That way they can buff you in war within season 1
Guarantee you arms is gonna be bad next tier
But in WW I'm going back to healing on my priest!
Rip
why did we vote for season 2 tier? we can only count to 2?
people voted it for because they prefer that playstyle
Definitely most fun playstyle

"Don't vote for power, vote for playstyle as there will be tuning"
(There could be tho, cope)
People voted for it because dumbass wow YouTube guys manipulated them
Is SMF any way at all viable?
Wow tubers convinced a lot of simple minded players and also eu botted 4000 votes over night
If you’re not doing very high end content and want to play SMF go for it
It is a significantly worse build in terms of damage thoguh
No, i voted for it because i prefer that playstyle
hey guys, what do you do in m+ right now with 4p, you take the uproar road or still trying to get shockwave ?
Any news on it being better in TWW?
Not taking shockwave is trolling hope that helped
And everyone who voted season 2 is bitching about their decisions now
No
Now everyone has to play arms
ahah sure is
i'm not, tho i play both specs so whatever ended up stronger i would play more of anyway.
I take shockwave. Good for big pulls so the other people can actually do real DPS. Fury is a support role in M+
what lol
You’ve been gaslit and manipulated by BigWarrior
Take shockwave and uproar
lol dude is yapping
Drop champion's spear
Back when the vote was going on some guys on YouTube made videos talking about how good season 2 fury will be with tuning and convinced a shit ton of people to vote for it in the us.
Where is the lie
Anyone who played season 2 should understand how shit it was
We literally all loved it
??? the tier wasn't that weak in s2 tho, was above average and fury was literally so goddamn good in m+ in s4
I enjoyed s3. What they should've done is offer the season 4 tier but also the tier of each season. Don't like the season 4? Great, here's other options for you.
Also takes care of the fuckery troll/meme voting.
You love doing -20% single target to do 3% more aoe?
I do wish that we had S3 set. But no amount of complaining is gonna fix that now. All we can hope is that we get some buffs and maybe a slight retool of the 4 set to stack faster
Thats the way
I'm not sure you are playing the same game the rest of us are
mans is just super angry about s3 not winning
If they redid the vote tomorrow I'd vote s2 again lol
No amount of tuning would make season 2 good. The Innate design of season 2 set sucked.
That's just incorrect.
bruh you are on something else
50% damage per stack
50% on 2p on top
Fixed
I wish the 2p part of s2 set was different
I'm conditioned to hit BT on CD and not wait
Pretty unexciting bonus and it felt bad when I didnt have 4p
I love having to hit my filler button 700 times because I can’t hit the button my tier set makes it so I can’t
Raging blow should be removed from the game
S3 is a straight upgrade to S2
In every way
No raging blow
No ravager
On demand burst
No waiti t for stacks
Tablet
I’m not swapping to S4 tier until after next week… did the math on the crests I’ll get next week and it’s still not an upgrade in raid
Tanky*
Better aoe
Better st
Consistent cool downs
Only downside if we had s3 would be not having might of the ocean. And that can be supplemented with other trinkets.

Ladies ladies you're both pretty

We got S2 deal with it
you say that as if getting s2 is bad
It’s just funny seeing all the people who pressured people to vote s2 playing arms now
yeah it's kinda funny to see blizzard not stick to their words
Blizzard: Announce Fury buffs, you cowards
I just don't like the play style of ignoring the stacks. It seems like the set was specifically built around ignoring our talents.
btw did you know that both biz and crit are playing fury right now?
That’s not the problem
oh and noxiv too
S2 would suck with or without tuning
no it would definitely not suck with tuning
hell even now it doesnt suck
it's just undertuned
But it works and I'll use it. I did prefer the hoard of passives that was S3
Doesnt it suck only ST
Is it the set that doesn’t suck or the talents that don’t suck
they go hand in hand
sims aside what stats do we wanna prio? i swear in s2 it was haste/mastery mainly
and in s3 it shifted to vers/mastery
like if i'm going 4pc tier then what pieces do i want for my tertiaries ideally, again i'll still sim it either way
I'm still trying to hit 60% mastery. I'm at 45% now and just from last week at ~30 my DPS has shot up. I'd say mastery to 60 then vers or haste
But I don't know what's actually supposed to be BiS
i'm using the s3 set 
it's not the fault of s2 voters as to why the semi new set sucks. i voted s3, and it's blizzards fault as to why the tiers set sucks lol
i believe its getting buffed tomorrow
Pass me some of that hope brother

they’ll just nerf s3 set
so they’re not as close anymore

classic blizzard move
right! haha but through the grapevine people are already saying it, not that its true but i have high hopes. now how much we get buffed is another issue.
buff rampage!!!!!!!!!
5k dps buff inc
Unless they remove the rampage stacking it’s still ass
nerfing the s3 set doesnt move fury up from lowest st dps in raid
It’s almost like there are public test realms where they could experiment with solutions but refuse to
Yea I mean the only play is Blizzard buffing our current set
no it doesn’t but it curbs the comparison between last set and this so more people are incentivized to swap to new set
saying that’s something blizz has done before many times
admittedly not 2 weeks into the season
typically just before a new season
but haha funny meme
they can do that with specs that are performing fine (altho people wont be happy with it), but fury isn't performing fine
of them not doing shit
so that makes no sense
Aren’t a bunch of specs still using s3 over what they voted. And 2pc 2pc
i think it’s worse for surv that ACTUALLY wears s3 tier in m+
all the time
just weird how multiple specs of ppl voting for wrong set
yes a couple are
yeah the worst sets are balance, survival and fury
think frost dk is also maybe a little Madge
I’m telling you there were botted votes dude. There’s no way s3 was about to win and eu pulls 4000 votes out of no where overnight.
or maybe it’s blood
there’s just a lot of alts really dedicated to cringe stacking bt
should’ve put that energy in s1 set
Also blizzard is dumb for not making votes per account.
there was no botting, people used multiple characters on the same account to vote (which s3 voters did as well btw)
i play unholy the most but i want a break from all the buttons. not talking about furys button pressing if i make sense
if just 10 people with 50 characters on their account vote that's 500 votes already
You telling me as a collective people spent a whole night on 4000 different characters all voting for the same one?
when the total amount of votes is that low it makes a huge difference
haha
tbf i voted s2 with the expectation they would balance shit if i knew this i'd have voted s3
But i do like the playstyle of s2 for m+
You guys didn’t vote with all your characters for your favourite set (season 2) ?
s2 only good m+
Barely
I only play m+ xD
no, it can be done in a couple of minutes, doesnt take a whole night
i mean OF's
S2 is good in m+ until you pop your cool downs and the tank moves the mobs 10 feet away
yea and even still fury generally cheeks m+ but that’s less the set and more we just aren’t the best in 5 targets like we should be
sounds like a skill issue then
the whole voting thing was a big fail it shouldve been one vote per account lmao. amateurs
god i gotta wake up lol
fury wet towel against giant algethar type pulls
it was also cause popular streamers said to vote for s2
I missed the s2 play style during all of s3 ... now I kinda wish we had s3 again lol
right lol
Better start learning arms
Blizzard needs to give me a reason to do above an 8-10 for M+ to be seen as just a chore
why
i mean not rly u do a 10 for max vault
It’s just a chore
i mean if you're not having fun then why would you want blizzard to give you a reason to do it?
anything above 10 means nothing
plenty of ppl do the keys just to flex big number
revvez doesnt do m+
and he is the goat
he doesnt push*
the only time i remember him pushing was s4 shadowlands and he was playing necro prot
and im not even sure if he was pushing
well having fun goes only so far. if your playing competitivly its starts to become a chore
he pushed a bit early in s4 bfa as well
does anybody know the soft caps on stats for fury?
there are none
perhaps playing competitively is what makes it fun for some and if you dont want to do it then you dont have to
just play how u want its a game
and run droptimizer to know what to look for
ait ty
yeah i agree but thats not a fact but more of an opinion. i guess lol
competitively m+ or the game in general
in general
yeah having to spam m+ on release isnt good imo but i prefer it over praying for rng in raid
playing wow competitively is a fail unless u get paid to do it
hahah yeah i can see that lol
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people gain satisfaction from pulling off high numbers
Playing to see big brown number on details >>>>
parses, overalls etc
the thing I replied to was an opinion as well its subjective whether or not playing competitively is fun or not ye
And small pink number
agreed
like in other games such as cs or valorant or league
ahh i see what your saying. agreed
people play them for elo and nothing else
Playing competitively is fun aswell
Though not everyone will agree with that
how is wow not balanced
fury doesn't compete with mage
no they dont
fury competes with fury
what, no
nobody cares if u compete with furys when u do less dmg than others in grp
Why compare one class to another when they all have completely different methods of dps for st and aoe
ur parses are compared to other players of the same spec
in m+ its a different story
if you’re rank 1 fury and you’re doing bottom dps in the raid are you good
yea but when ur 100 parse is 50k less than some other class ur spec is still shit
or is your spec good ig
but in highest keys people swap regularly and as it turns out warriors are very rarely good
Let's be real, the one's who are actually playing competitive are playing the classes capable of being competitive. The rest are just coping with excuses.
yes
if there are people playing the spec then yes
If you're clearing CE content (which you would be at rank 1), then yes you are good. What a dumb question.

rank 1 fury on rashok is 312k dps, that is rank 238 for arms 
damn clearing ce means you’re good I didn’t know that, my guild is good then
surely

surely means that 🙂

Statistically a small part of the community gets CE
fyrakk prog in our "good" guilds was rough
so that atleast puts you ahead of the average player
it isnt that small

Acting like a dented brain, CE is literally beating the game.......the vast majority do not accomplish that. So ya, it means you can play the game.
i dont think the guilds will allow you to play in that spec which is fury
If you want to play warrior in competitive way pvp is the way (or maybe raid)
Arms S tier almost every season
the vast majority don't attempt to do so tho
i mean it’s plenty playable in m+, maybe not mdi worthy speed killing but noxiv went high as hell last season
sorry to check around
so is it i suck
or fury st in raid kinda poo poo
it was giga mid / bad on release of every single raid
compared to arms of course
In pvp ?
the latter for sure but possibly the first too can’t rule anything out
but yea arms better
raid
Wasn’t one of the top dps in world 1st a fury warrior last season
what's this 10.2.7 patch tomorrow. are they fixing fury
Because they can't. Those statistics are reflected across the board in challenging content. Acting like any form of CE is bad is just big-time cope.
for sure
ilvl is 502, did maybe 220-230 on arms
fury was hard stuck 190-215
carlo will save fury
on sims it seemed lower somehow?
as in im bad?
people forget about this when they talk about how rare ce is
eh maybe a lil bit but idk some fights can b weird
I don’t think many people who don’t try to get CE would get CE
Even your average CE player struggles
1082…
I don't try to run a marathon because I couldn't finish it......
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Idk what the relevance is
i doubt the average wow player even raids lfr
world rank…
think theres a lot who could do CE but wont because the time sink is too high
LFR I think the average player does yes
i raided lfr week 1 for tier and to help cap crests
It’s not
My entire guild works full time
We are top 400 world
Raiding 6-7hrs a week tops
i mean not everyone is looking for wiping 400 times on a single boss
I can guarantee you more people are capable of getting CE than you would think
not everyone wants to come back from work to raid
they just don't want to
its a fking waste of time for low reward
or does not think they can
The reward is the content itself for many people
just an opinion
ce was never about the reward
Then by all means, show me the numbers.....because every relevant statistic disagrees with you.
We have like 4 people in my raid who push beyond weekly keys
competitive games rarely have rewards
The rest just raid for the sake of enjoying prog
it’s also just the lower in ranks you go it takes longer and and is just a way worse experience
im sure if your average joe was good enough to raid like top 500 and they joined a guild above that level they’d be fine
maybe ive played for too long but wiping 300+ times isnt something enjoayable
show you the numbers of people not attempting to do someting???????
but u don’t join those guilds without some amount of prog so u join the 1000+ses
and then it’s ass
There are plenty of guilds that aren’t at that pull count
Our highest pull count this tier was around 290 for fyrakk
3s seeds 
Yeah you do have to cut your teeth in the shit guilds
Also, that's like saying everyone can run a marathon. Sure, lots of things can be accomplished with time and training.
you cant really compare CE in wow with a marathon
You're acting like you could pull your average person out of m+ and have them immediately succeed in CE.......big head dent.
for 7 bazillion bobux
average is irrelevant in wow
the average player barely plahs the game
they run for transmogs and do m0s
maybe lfr
pet battles

I think by that metric you can probably assume that they wouldn’t succeed in mythic
what is that word

haha! everyone laugh at the noob!!!!!!
numba wan
LFR is very very popular amongst casuals
very good
tanked lfr on my druid yday, surprised u can survive rashok as solo tank
i knew 15+ people who never touched raid in sl and 10.0. and they knew a fuck ton of people doing the same
ngl
professions
Rashok is only like 100% increase dmg on LFR
quests m0s for mats etc
im in some fb groups and u can see people are giga casuals
might be a common question, but is there anyway to always keep the red glowing alert things around my character for rampage all the time if i can use it? I know it goes away after a few moments even if I can still use rampage. I want it up all the time if I can use it.
Vs iirc 1000% or more on mythic and heroic
looking for people to run +3's
i bet you can solo tank rashok on lfr as a dps
thank god, cuz my co tank forgot he hastaunt button I think
bdk could live it on mythic

They couldn’t
It was literally tens of millions of damage

Sounds like a skill issue
Rashok is well over that limit
til
Yes every cheat death in the game has a limit
cheat usually only allows you to live twice your hp or something
Paladins could however bubble the hits
Uh no, it blew through pergs damage limit.
istg i remember they were living it somehow to play 1 extra dps but i guess im wrong
So a ppal was bis for rashok prog
I don’t think purg has a limit no?
No
just trinkets
Definitely not
purg downside is you have to heal all the damage you got over killed by
Yeah it has a realistic limit of you aren’t healing through it though
ik monk can live it on hc
Rashok is absolutely well past that limit
but thats just monk
Doubt it but maybe
stagger op
but surely u just sling 5 million death strikes
Yeah except ur 90mil in the hole
Link
na
I might just be misremembering

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