There's a non 0 chance I go s3 for tswift just for the root break freedom
#fury
humble plover
humble plover
God no. I look too good
last lichen
dwarf master race, thats why theres gonna be 3 of em
midnight kite
the worst part is I am meme stacking my tier to 10 and dumping it into the adds and I still only do a bit more then the Warlock/Dev/BM
clever belfry
🪞
plush ice
so, i'm currently gemm'ed/enchanted etc for arms w/ crit/haste, i know i lose about a 1Kish in ST for fury, but i was thinking, for mythic+/keys, having high crit actually isn't that bad I would think? Because you're are going to have mor cleaved bloodthirts? My crits at like 41 percent so it dosn't take me long to cleave at all, i can often get two out during the hurricane window too
or is that bad thinking and the crit is still not amazing even on AoE
hardy cargo
its not so great no
last lichen
weaker BT hit with the stat prio being in crit%, might not be worth saving 1 rampage
hardy cargo
less stacks= less damage amp on the already critting BT
plush ice
thats true, i guess it is less total stacks, but more total casts
i didn't think about the stack part, that makes sense
last lichen
weaker bleed dot, based on the dmg of BT
plush ice
oh well, tongihts my night to do keys, and i got lucky and got mythic ash, so now my mythic+ ST is better on fury then arms i'm going to fury it up tongiht
gilded pawn
or is that bad thinking and the crit is still not amazing even on AoE
Crit better in aoe than st
40% is def too high for fury
plush ice
it's just for keys, i dont think i'm going to bother re gemming'enchanting
gilded pawn
If you are casually playing then it’s whatever
pale dragon
So what the verdict on the s4 set? I'm still holding on to s3 at 500ilvl
What ilvl is recommended I make the switch?
plush ice
well, its more i'm playing arms in raid, really ahd fun with it this past week, and i've never been sucessful in arms before, but i guess because the rotatoin is gcd locked my parses were actually pretty good, but onthe practice dummies my arms aoe is still behind fury aoe
plush ice
you hear anedotally that arms aoe should be better, and certianly arms AoE to do perfeclty is far more complicated and nuanced, but like, 5 targets on dummies shoudl be the easiest variation of it, and i am doing like 50 to 70ishK more as fury in two minutes tests
noble elm
you hear anedotally that arms aoe should be better, and certianly arms AoE to do...
I am doing significantly more average aoe over a dungeon as arms than I am as fury currently - assuming there are large pulls
if it's single pack pulls then I usually push more as fury
plush ice
yeah, it really does have alot of point of faliure, but on 5ts if you're just practicing pushing as much dmg as you can, not the nuance of an actual pull where you want to do less dmg in order to speed up the key, its pretty easy
olive wraith
Arms also has uncapped potential
noble elm
the bladestorm/cs/hurricane/roar interaction generally puts out a massive amount of aoe on a large pack (much more than fury) and a few of those in a dungeon means imo arms would outweigh
plush ice
yeah, i did some arms versus fury early last week, and i 'felt' like arms did more, its obivously hard to completely compare, although arms was simming more ST last week, but now fury is back to simming more ST, and my testing fury's aoe is now over it (when i tested last week arms was beating it in aoe on the dummies too, albiet not by alot)
rough rock
The new set tier feels kinda lame to the season 3 tier or ?
noble elm
hey man we "voted" for it
rough rock
my dmg output is not that high anymore.. in m+ it feels kinda weak
olive wraith
M+ is still decent
rough rock
I never played season 2
dense elbow
I get the feel of it being weaker, just know it isn't. Just no big numbers on screen
rough rock
I will never use slam again or ?
dense elbow
Hopefully nah
rough rock
😄
keen kindle
Remove slam
dense elbow
Wake up to reality.
jovial summit
quick question. Does 2 shadowflame patches increase proc rate or just damage
dense elbow
just dam
olive wraith
or im missing something
Wdym
compact knot
i was almost certain that t3 would sim higher than t4 even with the ilvl gap
pure st
i saw a different guy with full t3 at like 330k
yeah it was mobbo
.
supple estuary
Any idea why Vers is my best stat with the new 4set? shouldnt it be haste/mast
edgy widget
you probably already have a lot of both?
compact knot
stats can change dps values based off how much of a different stat you have
supple estuary
I guess, 31% haste 60% mastery
compact knot
yeah you have alot of both lmao
edgy widget
stats dr pretty hard after 4 tiers of inflation and there are a lot of secondary sources of damage this patch which primarily benefit from vers (ex: fyr'alath)
supple estuary
Its just weird because a lot of my gear is still S3 which is ver stacked but eh
compact knot
what is ur vers %
supple estuary
18% atm
edgy widget
I mean yeah idk without seeing your gear, but Vers tends to be one of the stronger stats in high gear
so it's not unusual
even in S3 it was becoming very strong, though S4 wants a little more haste than S3 did
compact knot
yeah that all makes sense to me
even in season 1 vers was usually one of the better stats to me lol, its never been my worse one
jovial summit
So what fight style do we sim for fury m+
chilly fractal
yeah it was mobbo
/wave
I won’t swap until it’s worth the crests… for now bigger upgrades from literally anything else other than pumping shit into tier
celest sierra
Damn I hate to admit because I was a strong advocate for S2 fury .. but my lord is fury weak rn. Compared to arms especially . I swapped to arms 😦 to keep up on the keys I’m doing 13+ now
craggy sleet
Farewell s3 tier
celest sierra
And this is coming from a warrior who has fully upgraded Axe and a 522 Ashkandi off-hand. 515 ili overall. As fury I maintain around 450K dps as arms im now maintaining 650-700K dps on pulls after the initial Burrrrrrr window
fair cave
Question:
hypothetically, if our current set bonus was s2 2set + s3 2set and we couldn't use Ravager, what build would we go for?
celest sierra
Question:
hypothetically, if our current set bonus was s2 2set + s3 2set and we ...
Without ravenger go for s3 build
meager void
And this is coming from a warrior who has fully upgraded Axe and a 522 Ashkandi ...
I hold 600k as fury. 5t 5min sim is over 700k dps.
Try and check your rotation
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/tcEJKEFwVokyrk5wsZcrVg
fair cave
Without ravenger go for s3 build
even with s2 2set?
celest sierra
Yeh s2 set is worthless without ravenger
celest sierra
I hold 600k as fury. 5t 5min sim is over 700k dps.
Try and check your rotation
h...
Ima sim again
mint siren
Gnome Fury ❤️
celest sierra
Nvm can sim im at work there’s no way to sim from my phone without simulation add on ?
fair cave
Yeh s2 set is worthless without ravenger
what if s3 2set was nerfed by 50% aka half the damage and 50% crit chance
i know its cringe
hard widget
Nvm can sim im at work there’s no way to sim from my phone without simulation ad...
If you left the gear / talent set on you can sim through your character name / realm
meager void
btw this one sims particularly strong in MT
celest sierra
It’s not giving me an option to put my name etc
mossy fox
i refuse to believe this is right
try correct talents with s4 set
hard widget
It’s not giving me an option to put my name etc
celest sierra
Got it up thank you
meager void
gear compare doesnt change talents per gear set
mossy fox
you compared s4 tier with s3 talents vs s3 talents with s3 tier
compact knot
im aware
hard widget
Why would you play s3 talents with s4 tier tho?
compact knot
im not trying too
mossy fox
correct talents puts the setup above s3 set, admittedly not much higher but that's just how it's tuned atm
celest sierra
Yeh I can only sim as arms rn cause im in Arms spec rip 😦
sick viper
fury sandbag spec
compact knot
correct talents puts the setup above s3 set, admittedly not much higher but that...
i was wondering why mobbos st sim was so much higher than mine using s3 talents and s3 tier set
ie.
i dont not care about s4 rn
unless anvil is doing that much which i doubt
celest sierra
Maybe I just doing Fury wrong . But like what’s there to do . Onslaught on cd keep whirlwind up. Crit blood thirst for dot . What else am I missing
compact knot
maybe its a series of things with him having bis rings/anvil/mythic offhand
modest condor
nah that looks about right for anvil tbh
wanton mirage
maybe its a series of things with him having bis rings/anvil/mythic offhand
Thats true
compact knot
but is that really almost a 30k gap?
celest sierra
Could my trinkets be hold me back as fury ? I got hoof and iridious
olive wraith
Maybe I just doing Fury wrong . But like what’s there to do . Onslaught on cd ke...
It would be more helpful to provide a log and stick it in #449510248579858432
Hard to give pointers without info
mossy fox
but is that really almost a 30k gap?
on top of the things mentioned before, he's using 2x bsl embels at 60% uptime
olive wraith
Iridious isn’t good for fury
celest sierra
I have a puzzle box sitting in my bags I could use that instead
meager void
100000% yes
olive wraith
Puzzy box way better
celest sierra
Also I messaged u kalaiath
meager void
btw, anyone remember there used to be a weakaura that did a Tada! when cast was sucessfull.
for PuzzyB
taking it to that channel
chilly fractal
on top of the things mentioned before, he's using 2x bsl embels at 60% uptime
Should I adjust the uptime?
celest sierra
Okay I uploaded the log
tame gorge
Got Ashlkander from raid. Does that save Fury or do I still do DPS are arm mashing buttons?
chilly fractal
Got Ashlkander from raid. Does that save Fury or do I still do DPS are arm mashi...
Save is a strong word
olive wraith
I think crit was just saying the reason why you were simming higher
celest sierra
Lmk about my logs I put it in the review
mossy fox
yeah 60% bsl is just higher than you'd usually sim with
default is 40 or 45%?
probably not realistic for the average mythic boss
ebon junco
Fury default is around 50-55%
Arms is around 40-45%
the substain for Fury, Just makes it have a bit better uptime
as well as you can just wall insta top urself
on the big hits
@mossy fox
modest condor
i bet it has great uptime on 3rd boss halls
ebon junco
real
In the raid BSL is broken RN.
Sark Arms has 70%+ BSL
on Mythic
Idk the nerfs to the raids were a bit to hard
nothin does dam
pliant obsidian
7 day have fun grab beers and maybe do keys or raid
chilly fractal
yeah 60% bsl is just higher than you'd usually sim with
Yea I never changed it to my knowledge so I can adjust it
pliant obsidian
What is bsl i scrolled up but still in the dark
mossy fox
but they keys r so boring
suppose we can spend a lot of time in this channel being upset about fury tuning also
slender crescent
blue silken lining?
chilly fractal
blue silken lining?
Yea
pliant obsidian
lol gotcha thanks for clearing that up
ebon junco
suppose we can spend a lot of time in this channel being upset about fury tuning...
real
chilly fractal
Wonder how it got changed to 60%
slender crescent
suppose we can spend a lot of time in this channel being upset about fury tuning...
i decided to not be upset and changed to a hunter.
celest sierra
I mean fury def needs some buff
mossy fox
celest sierra
Actually same but I mean for M+ unless I’m just bad 😂
pliant obsidian
why do we need a buff?we out dps everyone lol especially in a 20 man raid with only 1 warrior we get 5 percent of everyones dmg gg right?lol
ebon junco
ebon junco
first time I see more Arms parses than Fury
@mossy fox
I've never ever seen less fury parses
celest sierra
why do we need a buff?we out dps everyone lol especially in a 20 man raid with o...
My comment is mainly aimed at keys where other classes are holding 450k+ overall. Yet me I’m at 300-350K overall
mossy fox
I've never ever seen less fury parses
yup fury's very popular
i did some 500k as fury, can probably do a bit more
but then arms did over 700 in brack so yeah
celest sierra
Yeh I think rn Arms is just the better play until fury gets buffed
ebon junco
Idk I found some lootshare HC runs to boost today so I sent it Arms + Fury to compare.
As fast as there is cleave like always, Fury can climb up pretty fast
pliant obsidian
if mages rogues locks hunters do more than me thats fine they are pure dps specs but yea dh pally's doing more is bleh
ebon junco
but if it's full ST fury is utterly poop
mossy fox
ya
celest sierra
Well ret is broken rn
pliant obsidian
yea
celest sierra
I just wanna know if I’m doing something wrong in my rotation . Cause I know I can keep up but I’m starting to think it’s just cause my gear isn’t optimized yet
ebon junco
celest sierra
Yup I posted my log @ebon junco
pliant obsidian
for keys dps can vary a lot but raids i think you can get more consistency from
modest condor
but then arms did over 700 in brack so yeah
without aug?
pliant obsidian
is brackenridge broken?i tried doing that dungeon 3 times but peeps kept dcing before 4th mobset pulls
celest sierra
for keys dps can vary a lot but raids i think you can get more consistency from
Yeh in raids I’m not worried I know I can pump as fury . I’m mainly concerned why I don’t keep up in keys haha
pliant obsidian
tanks on meth lol
celest sierra
Also is Augrey bis for fury ?
pliant obsidian
yes
modest condor
i wanna see arms with aug tbh
ive seen spriest do 1mil overall in academy, i wonder if arms can do that too
pliant obsidian
overall?nice
celest sierra
Augrey + ??? For fury
pliant obsidian
signet if you have a good group that stays in combat enough to keep stacks up or puzzle for aoe burst
or use that stupid doll
slate mica
pliant obsidian
patch 10.7
pliant obsidian
i use hoof but i'm chilling this season does almost same dmg as aug does overall
modest condor
archon just shows what people are doing
young swan
I love how Archon.gg is saying Hoof is good lmao
can you link? im almost positive you're looking at what people are using
celest sierra
That’s what I’m using now hoof and iridious . But ima swap iridous for my puzzle
celest sierra
can you link? im almost positive you're looking at what people are using
Yeh think that’s what I was doing
pliant obsidian
use aug with it if you have it dont go out of your way or anything
I didnt think i was going to get the leggo this season but lo and behold it dropped in an lfr this week lol
celest sierra
Honestly I’m glad they didn’t make the axe available with the bullion. 👀
pliant obsidian
these quests though omg ugh i do not envy peeps that did this in s3 and trying to get it fast
I have 2 weeks because i already spent my bullions on the aug
olive wraith
I mean it takes like 6 hours? If okay time
oblique raft
pliant obsidian
6 hours?that translates to my playstyle to 1 to 2 weeks lol
chilly fractal
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/qCf3ERLewNUpbspy7Wv7B7
Here's the updated sim with corrected BSL uptime to 40% apologies for the gaslighting didn't know it wasn't the default
pliant obsidian
when you guys sim do you also look at the exact rotation it's usong too?
using
single target?no signet or aug?
sorry no signet but anvil nice
upbeat sentinel
So when is S4 gonna be noticeably better than S3
blissful kestrel
light tapir
So when is S4 gonna be noticeably better than S3
Next week. Theyre patching in to be able to swap between s2 and s3 set bonuses on the s4 set for 60 aspect crests
frozen berry
Ok, so the word is to wait till I have full heroic 4 pc to swap from my mythic S3 4pc right?
Is the new teir that poop?
frozen berry
Ya, Fury ST was poop in S2 I remembered, hence y I didn't vote for it...
olive wraith
What
compact flint
As a guild we ran into a ruby pools +5 and the Blood DK was 489 and rest of us was 500 item level or above and this was last boss dps.
olive wraith
- Why was your tank the highest. 2. Not sure what that arms guy is doing but shouldn’t be that low
compact flint
Hes only 480 something he dont have 4set yet.
compact flint
1. Why was your tank the highest. 2. Not sure what that arms guy is doing but sh...
Tank was highest cause hes over 508 item level
olive wraith
As a guild we ran into a ruby pools +5 and the Blood DK was 489 and rest of us w...
I’m confused
compact flint
I’m confused
Miscommunication 489 was arms and blood dk was 508+ my apologies.
olive wraith
Call me crazy but I still dont understand how a tank won
olive wraith
I didn’t even notice that lmao
robust basin
manic gulch
is anvil better than signet for raid ?
wispy dock
should i farm puzzyB or hoof?
manic gulch
compact flint
is anvil better than signet for raid ?
I heard that Puzzle box is good.
hard relic
is anvil better than signet for raid ?
I'd say sim it but I believe same lvl signet always beats anvil
wanton mirage
@edgy widget is there a way to turn off bloodbath icon in your BT crit % weakaura ? sorry for tag
hard relic
<@61282228017041408> is there a way to turn off bloodbath icon in your BT crit %...
are you specced into reckless abandon?
covert blaze
<@61282228017041408> is there a way to turn off bloodbath icon in your BT crit %...
set manual icon and put bt on it
in display
upbeat sentinel
So I was kind of memeing before about the tier
but it does genuinely seem to be a v small dps upgrade
olive wraith
He most def is using RA
fluid cedar
ppl fr playing s3 talents with s4 tier?
edgy widget
right click, convert to text, and remove any remaining icon stuff under display
fluid cedar
just wondering how that would work with the lack of odyn's reset... just marginal %damage increase to bloodbaths?
i saw some people talking about s3 talents simming higher than rb build with new set, didn't catch the rest of the conversation and can't find it atm
compact flint
Wish there was a way to convert whelpling crests into drakes etc. because i have 330 of them
wraith wharf
once you get enough ilvl in your slots you can convert, like last season
drowsy heron
i saw some people talking about s3 talents simming higher than rb build with new...
have you confirmed this or just hearing it?
fluid cedar
i saw something earlier in this chat about it, let me see if i can find the conversation. that might answer my question
gentle walrus
S4 build is lacking, but would be surprised if it's that lacking outside of some niche circumstances.
midnight kite
You can technically play annihilator/OF with S4 tier if you really wanted but its like -7% dam or something
smoky prawn
all the s2 set voters playing arms rn probably
drowsy heron
i mean, its significantly ahead in dps
not playing arms is partially griefing depending on the content tbh
but thats more an issue of blizz not balancing shit
smoky prawn
i mean yes, obviously it is
shadow timber
can i fury or we gotta play shit arms?
smoky prawn
but we already knew s2 that the st sucks
smoky prawn
can i fury or we gotta play shit arms?
you can play whatever you want
but arms dps is much superior
chilly fractal
Fury owns 
drowsy heron
but if you're trying to push hard Arms might be better
drowsy heron
hopefully
smoky prawn
im sure blizzard will tweak fury right?
i hope so
drowsy heron
but knowing blizz i doubt we see it for a couple weeks
midnight kite
Honestly every dps check boss we hit (Terros/Rashok/Magmorax) has ended up being so insanely free with the tuning I dont feel as bad if I dont play arms
celest sierra
Last expac blizz didn’t tweak abyrbubf in the fated season . So honestly doubt it
smoky prawn
i mean it would suprise me if im gonna wear s3 set again for next week hc for parses
s3 set st is so good
celest sierra
all the s2 set voters playing arms rn probably
I admitted I was wrong in my s2 vote 🥺 forgive meh
drowsy heron
nah S2 definitely better
straight up wouldnt be playing Fury or even at all this season if we had S3 again
numbers can be tuned i think the bigger issue is that Fury is just not tuned well compared to everyone else
drowsy heron
^
midnight kite
I BELIEVE every single other plate dps besides us got buffed in S3
If one dident feel free to "actually" me
drowsy heron
yep, i remember not see shit for us the whole season
drowsy heron
in the long run its better for us to be seen this weak considering thats the actual case compared to a tset carrying our numbers
midnight kite
back when the axe was kinda mid (and nobody had it anyways) I am pretty sure they threw buffs to most the others
drowsy heron
they did, a lot of them going to Ret
midnight kite
DK is the one I am kinda second guessing if they did and its hard to track down hotfix notes at times
drowsy heron
they probably got something but i rarely pay attention to DK tbh
smoky prawn
this season will porbably be a ret season for pushing tho
midnight kite
I like looking at ret heroic raid stats
its actually insane how many ret players there are
smoky prawn
for me atleast unless they give fury some buffs
midnight kite
theres almost twice as many ret players as havoc and havoc is the 3ed most played dps in heroic
drowsy heron
not surprised, Ret/Havoc got reworks recently so they are FoTM
only time Warrior get major changes are during xpacs
so we're usually just the general class
midnight kite
Fury got a pretty amazing set of changes midway through vault
Besides that the only good change was changing RA to 1 stack thats twice as good
ripe stratus
Weird that I have a 506 Iredeus Fragment and Puzzle Box seems like a downgrade from sims.
midnight kite
The most confusing change of the xpac however is early on they nerfed CSHB by 10% when it wasent even a meta talent and buffed bloodthrist by 1% as compensation
drowsy heron
honestly, hard to believe that warrior has a decent balance dev with how little we get anything
always feels like warrior is an afterthought
midnight kite
idk maby the vault mini rework was luck, its the only reason the AM build even works
midnight kite
I just hope if we get buffs they buff fury not the tier
ivory ingot
Why would we need buffs 
midnight kite
You can legit double every number on our tier and we still would be below arms
smoky prawn
Why would we need buffs <:weird:718676218500874320>
because fury is pretty shit
drowsy heron
would be nice to get buffed, but i could see why they might not want to since TWW is right around the corner
drowsy heron
last time i sim'd Fury vs Arms its like a 35k difference
ivory ingot
Or dont care cuz its season 4
drowsy heron
granted i dont have a good offhand
ivory ingot
drowsy heron
Or dont care cuz its season 4
or Blizz could do their job and actually balance classes lol
drowsy heron
Sim'd it earlier and even with both the difference in dps is still like 20k
and thats with gear tailored more towards Fury
wanton mirage
right click, convert to text, and remove any remaining icon stuff under display
when i convert, the percent text just disapper
ivory ingot
Ahh sim copers 
drowsy heron
Ahh sim copers <:copium:839076283467431956>
ah, newbie trolls
open wigeon
last time i sim'd Fury vs Arms its like a 35k difference
Mine was 50k, which is stupid
smoky prawn
Ahh sim copers <:copium:839076283467431956>
ddhow is simming cope
open wigeon
We have the legendary in one hand, and a pseudo legendary at another hand, and still do less damage than a monk using just his hands
drowsy heron
with less utility
ivory ingot
Quite simple why t30 set for fury is cheeks
drowsy heron
if anything thats my biggest gripe with Blizz balance
there is literally no reason behind anyone being anywhere other than certain classes being overtuned to hell
ivory ingot
T31 blasts morr st
open wigeon
Balancing around a legendary was such a stupid approach
ivory ingot
midnight kite
Pretty much all the plate dps were good at the end of S3
like I think it matters more to be good at the start but they did come out on top later
open wigeon
Pretty much all the plate dps were good at the end of S3
and then, the voting happens
ivory ingot
Arms scaling harder with all those stats while fury
midnight kite
Sorry it appears frost DK was not but I kinda forget they exist sometimes
Blizzard should hire me
open wigeon
frost DK is just a cold arms warrior
wanton mirage
the avatar before recklessness S2 bug is gone rite?
ivory ingot
wispy dock
question with roar... do we wanna wait a few seconds after ravager to build hurricane stack or does it not matter
open wigeon
question with roar... do we wanna wait a few seconds after ravager to build hurr...
At least my sims says throw everything when its ready at anytime
drowsy heron
yea just throw everything when ready
thorny sparrow
with a ruby shell trinket whats the best thing to train the dragon on? the haste buff?
hollow cradle
Hi. This might be stupid question, but can you still get the legendary on normal if you killed fyrak on Heroic?
hollow cradle
Damn, thanks.
hollow cradle
https://tenor.com/view/puppet-red-ball-soon-gif-13188418
😂
random raptor
When do we get buffs 
I hit 1.2m dps first pull BH +14 and got excited until I saw the destro loc in my pub doing 2.6m
bitter palm
Sorry it appears frost DK was not but I kinda forget they exist sometimes
fdk was good wdym
its just that literally no one enjoys the spec
upbeat sentinel
Sorry it appears frost DK was not but I kinda forget they exist sometimes
They were the highest raid dmg legendary holder at the end of the patch
it just took a lot of buffs to get there
upbeat sentinel
its just that literally no one enjoys the spec
I'll have you know I'm a Frost enjoyer
upbeat sentinel
1 player enjoys fdk*
BUFF ME SPECIFICALLY
midnight kite
Frost (DK) seems fine but going off logs it seems a bit below the other plate overall at the end of S3
white rampart
for off hand, myth wpn is better than a heroic ashkandur right?
regular myth wpn i mean
olive wraith
Sim it
calm mantle
Vault looking juicy for the week, sadly couldn't get the experiment kill for the 2nd mythic raid slot.
ember apex
like makes the game unplayable if u have dStance active
disables anything other than berserker stance
olive wraith
I mean that’s not a great idea
still swift
Vault looking juicy for the week, sadly couldn't get the experiment kill for the...
pov not killing 8 mythic bosses
wraith wharf
i mean an anti d stance weak aura would be pretty simple.. giant picture shows up on your screen, blocks everything
edgy widget
blocking everything maybe not the best idea since you actually want to be in DStance sometimes; but yeah, just set up a WA that only shows while DStance is active - something obvious but not completely in the way
ember apex
yo sick ty
cyan star
Just make it so when you have D stance active it says (in big red text) back to zerker and cowabunga, my dude
wraith wharf
if i could get custom sounds working.. "defense *clap clap".. on repeat.
midnight kite
I am still salty they removed cancelaura Dstance
cyan star
You can set a sound to repeat every X amount of seconds
eternal sundial
does anyone have an anti defensive stance weak aura
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thats what i use
its part of smth else but i yoinked the dstance only
clever path
Gotta love bliz, them saying they balanced the classes around the lego, and yet evoker all around are cracked af. What's the point of getting the lego if they're just gonna poorly scale us to not even be viabe?
clever belfry
this game is satanic
nice UI
chrome plover
Gotta love bliz, them saying they balanced the classes around the lego, and yet ...
hard to scale well vs a dragon i guess hehe
cyan star
I haven’t played with a good evoker yet
I did an AA with one with 535 legendary but he managed like 300-320k overall
eternal sundial
300 
cyan star
Yea I was wondering why it was so low
I feel most classes/specs around 505 should be 375-400k overall, depending of course. I find neltharus to have slightly less overall dps 🤷🏻♂️
eternal sundial
below 400 in AA is criminal
cyan star
I have a single excuse to having a run that was 352k and that is the ripping threat on burst openers vs guardian Druid.
sad
eternal sundial
it doenst yell but it works for me
restive fractal
Yo guys how many stacks do we send the bloodthirsty with the 4 set
devout totem
at 100% crit
fast mural
devout totem
ye, technically the weakaura said to send it at 95%
chrome plover
95 yea
sullen basin
If the weakaura glows send it right? I just do it at like 90-100
hardy cargo
I changed mine to a meow >;3
sullen basin
I have never once heard the weakaura make a noise
calm mantle
pov not killing 8 mythic bosses
Pov having to pug mythic raid. Group 1 shot first 3 and gave up after 2 wipes on experiments.
sullen basin
even the chipi chipi chapa chapa lust i got isnt that loud
how much harder is kazzara on mythic?
my old guild struggled quite a lot with the first two bosses on heroic so i cant imagine it being "that" easy
potent sinew
You now cannot cross the beams so you have to actually drive them. It’s a step up in coordination.
still swift
how much harder is kazzara on mythic?
not at all rly u do same thing just dont cross beams
calm mantle
how much harder is kazzara on mythic?
Fairly easy, pug group one shot it after all. YOu just drop pools on the edge guide lasers into pools without dragging laser over someone elses laser trail.
sullen basin
not at all rly u do same thing just dont cross beams
vertical beams or new beams
i know that for some reason mythic design team has a fetish for beam effects
potent sinew
Same beams as before. The ones you guide into holes
chrome plover
I have never once heard the weakaura make a noise
i cant remember what sound channel it's on by default but maybe you have it muted
still swift
the heroic beams that need to go into puddle
u just cant cross them/take them over the patches on floor outside of a puddle
chrome plover
i cant remember what sound channel it's on by default but maybe you have it mute...
it's on dialog
still swift
even if u do its not end of world its just a buncha dmg but not insta wipe
chrome plover
pre-rally and cross someones piss line for uptime
sullen basin
u just cant cross them/take them over the patches on floor outside of a puddle
ouchie
every raid ive ever done would constantly wipe mythic then
chrome plover
it is easy but definitely one of the more chaotic first bosses if you arent organised
still swift
guys i developed a weakaura that assigns you a position based on your spot in the raid group now you need to do a konga line of 20 people and move in order
double check nobody to ur left has the beam so u know which one ur going to
🤓
still swift
Did they have an evoker rescue someone with a debuff
good morning my lord
oblique trail
gm
calm mantle
Morning?? It's 8:33 pm.
red peak
Minor concern I have
wraith wharf
if you mean the upgrade bug, then fyralath can be fully upgraded now
red peak
see pic
I dont think it makes a difference? but dont want to inadvertantly brick it, by somehow creating an epic version
calm mantle
I'm not sure what I'm looking at apart from an upgrade cost. Which is normal if you haven't upgraded a 2h higher then that before. You posted a picture and gave 0 context.
oblique trail
I dont think it makes a difference? but dont want to inadvertantly brick it, by ...
It's still a legendary
wraith wharf
oh no, thats just a display bug with the upgrade vendor, it stays a lego
oblique trail
It wont get turned into an epic
red peak
Great. Just wanted to check before mistakes were made
potent sinew
Even if it was epic it wouldn’t change the stat budget.
calm mantle
Great. Just wanted to check before mistakes were made
Too late, mistakes were made when we decided to play this game.
wraith wharf
yeah. they changed that a long time ago, rarity has nothing to do with stat budget anymore, its all about its ilvl
silver mantle
I like how the fury rotation this season is simplified into opening talent page > swapping to Arms
Literally a 2 click rotation
Love it
sullen basin
heady wedge
New tier sims me less than old one 
supple tangle
I like how the fury rotation this season is simplified into opening talent page ...
But you get to press raging blow 🙂 That is all the rave according to the people who voted for S2 tier
fair star
4k dps isnt alot
Rn new tier dmg sucks
Might be more dmg just to play 4x 489 pieces sith s3
ripe stratus
Does the raging blow slaughtering strikes matter on when to press rampage?
hardy cargo
nah
ripe stratus
or just send rampage when it's usable?
hardy cargo
yep
sullen basin
arms is easy just press mortal strike until 35% then press mortal strike every 2 executes
sullen basin
just roar
sullen basin
fury is 2 buttons
fair star
It has the same amount of buttons as fury
sullen basin
anyway cooldowns count as buttons if they arent like 1m+
ripe stratus
How about whirlwind, sweeping strikes.
sullen basin
does ss work on cleave it used to in classic idk about now
fair star
No
hardy cargo
does ss work on cleave it used to in classic idk about now
nope
fair star
Cleave is a frontal
hardy cargo
its more akin to cata cleave now but actually on the global
unless ss still works on it in cata which would be wild to me lmfao
sullen basin
i didnt play and wont be playing cata so idk what that means but hey warriors on cata after getting giganerfed by bugfixes have leap i guess
sullen basin
it probably does considering how buggy it is
ripe stratus
I dunno whether to cleave or to mortal strike
ripe stratus
both light up on 2 stacks of martial whatever
nocturne onyx
Hello everyone, just joined in, is there a doc or something where to check what to grab from your bullion and stuff or? (No legendary atm)
sullen basin
both light up on 2 stacks of martial whatever
more than 1 enemy press cleave if you dont have ss
fair star
Ms below
hardy cargo
both light up on 2 stacks of martial whatever
its bc both abilities dam is buffed by it
sullen basin
why would you prio ms when you cant even hit every target with it
fair star
Martial prowess
sullen basin
but cleave can
nocturne onyx
Thank you!
hardy cargo
why would you prio ms when you cant even hit every target with it
more damage
sullen basin
so much more damage it makes up for hitting half the guys?
oh yeah its almost triple damage
makes sense
ripe stratus
Do you store up martial prowess to max b4 cleaving?
sullen basin
its like 2.6x
hardy cargo
if youre hitting 1 target for 100k or 2 targets for 30k each yea
fair star
Hello everyone, just joined in, is there a doc or something where to check what ...
You have options if u dont have legendary,buy trinket,buy fire ring or buy ashkandut
sullen basin
easy choice
hardy cargo
if youre hitting 1 target for 100k or 2 targets for 30k each yea
obv these are fabricated numbers but u get the point
sullen basin
Imagine not having legendary
only 9 confirmed heroic kills maybe 10-11 but i had 8 logged before s4
im max 6 kills from it
fair star
You can check in statistics
sullen basin
true
dense elbow
Gz 
fair star
Thx but it was a long time ago funky
sullen basin
i had 8 logs before last night so idk why it says 8 but okay 🙂
sullen basin
also had 14 normals, not sure how wclogs had so many more
fair star
i had 8 logs before last night so idk why it says 8 but okay 🙂
Maybe you killed him twice the same week
And thats why u have 8 logs
sullen basin
dont see why the hell i would kill it without loot
there is a 0% chance im killing fyrakk for no gain
fair star
Parses?
fair star
I have a 98 on mythic gnarloot
My proudest log
Cuz i died so i couldve gotten like a 99
sullen basin
wclogs now says 7 so maybe it was just some kinda log posting error in the past
i do not play to parse i play to be better than other people who also do not parse
eternal sundial
No 99s 
fair star
No 99s <:bedge:882323848844963860>
I didnt play for parse last season
sullen basin
best i got with the feelgood button pressed isnt even 99
eternal sundial
Im just posting bedges
fair star
eternal sundial
best i got with the feelgood button pressed isnt even 99
100s for ilvl is free
Unequip ur rings
fair star
sullen basin
i got a feelgood button 99 on normal
fair star
Thats actually smart
sullen basin
i doubt theres many people trying to game the system to look good when everyone looking at their log would immediately know they cheesed it
fair star
DAYYMN
eternal sundial
sullen basin
60 neltharion sounds like someone died
eternal sundial
I got assassinated
sullen basin
is echo a pad fight because it doesnt really feel like a pad fight
went purpy and got deletey?
eternal sundial
is echo a pad fight because it doesnt really feel like a pad fight
It's a dont perma immune it xd fight
hardy cargo
Insane 2nd war no lego logs for ilvl
sullen basin
unfortunately i am a medium skill player so i hardly ever see an orange and usually get green-blue in early patches
hc
its safe to say 50 and below is the floor and 50-75 is mid right?
maybe even 50-90
theres probably a lotta skill diff between 90 and 99 and 100
other than going arms is this fixable
tardy lark
maybe even 50-90
50 is by definition middle of the pack. That’s how percentiles work.
sullen basin
50 is by definition middle of the pack. That’s how percentiles work.
skill diff between 50 and 1 isnt far
fair star
This season parses dont matter
Unless u wanna get high parses to try to get invited to some mythic raid team
sullen basin
this season having the legendary and asscandy and the rings and the trinkets matter
fair star
Fury buffs incoming
sullen basin
lol
fair star
tardy lark
skill diff between 50 and 1 isnt far
I mean blow your CDs on pull and floor pov from then and it’s better than a 1 percentile
thorny sparrow
with rings ans weapon slots being taken up by items what crafted slot would be best to stick in a flavour pocket?
tardy lark
I’d say it’s pretty far
thorny sparrow
neck or legs?
fair star
Problem is if they buff fury dmg by 10% for example theyre also buffing s3 tier so it wont change the fact s4 is undertuned
And idk how they will buff s4 tier
sullen basin
buff s4 tier by 15%
make arms do the same damage as fury by making fury do 15% more damage
fair star
Arms will still be better
hardy cargo
its safe to say 50 and below is the floor and 50-75 is mid right?
trying to account for early deaths in logs is really hard to quantify, if doing high blue/purp you are more than fine
kind bolt
Problem is if they buff fury dmg by 10% for example theyre also buffing s3 tier ...
about that is s4 even an upgrade
fair star
Idk alot of people are saying their s3 tier sims higher
kind bolt
mine simmed the same in aoe
sullen basin
I got shit on by vault hc
kind bolt
but st better with t4
fair star
Like thats heavily undertuned if 20 ilvls under items sim higher
last pewter
is it worth pushing the lego axe yet
fair star
Yes?
sullen basin
all the issues have been fixed
hardy cargo
Idk alot of people are saying their s3 tier sims higher
p sure most of those people are simming with old talents and dont have the ilvls, but its a problem that s4 tier is undertuned yes
tardy lark
is it worth pushing the lego axe yet
@young swan tell the man axe is bad
sullen basin
i simmed s4 st vs s3 st and it was a 4k difference which im pretty sure if the same gear was s3, s3 would probably be higher than that
i never sim aoe because aoe is braindead
kind bolt
real
fair star
Like
2nd boss halls
He spawns adds
Do u full focus boss cuz its more viable?
No u send bladestorm pad the adds so hard you go above the meter
kind bolt
fury and bladestorm 🤔
fair star
(Im just kidding here if you are pushing higher keys you should just focus boss)
fair star
fury and bladestorm 🤔
I switched to arms
sullen basin
if you sim aoe you're probably gonna use gems enchants etc that dont help st much right
thorny sparrow
fury and bladestorm 🤔
fury had bladestorm for much longer than it had ravager
sullen basin
pointless 🙂
kind bolt
well true but not atm xd
tardy lark
Because it’s a fury spell
kind bolt
also so annoying
fair star
well true but not atm xd
Can i say something biut tww here
tardy lark
sullen basin
dont you just @player it
sullen basin
tanks love moving out
if you have storm boon your tank will move away
100%^ of the time
dense elbow
The slow climb up has begun, it is not high mid, as expected - but hey, give it another week of aug minmax, then we up there 
tardy lark
Boon is a trap 
sullen basin
pay yuor tank to let you use it
wraith wharf
maybe we can get "and this is to go even further beyond" but its just the weekly DPS rankings as we slowly climb up..
tardy lark
Mainly the risk of death by rooting yourself for 10 seconds lol
wraith wharf
kind bolt
best thing is dispelling roots with avatar and shits
kind bolt
stun4 sec
desert cloud
It kills u
desert cloud
Happend to me while tanking
tardy lark
Entangling is not the issue 💀
desert cloud
I booned got entagling then got clapped by adds
sullen basin
tank skill issue
tardy lark
Ah that’s what I’ve been doing wrong
Pressing boon, then look at boss timer and realize you are awaiting your demise
desert cloud
tank skill issue
Yes don’t mind me i’ll keep an eye on entangling cd while interrupting every single mob on the pack solo as a warrior
tardy lark
kind bolt
why are we so short tranged
desert cloud
My biggest issue with boon is the tank stops for 5 secs until i press boon then he moves like 2 inches away
And i can’t attack anymore and i just stand there spam pinging myself
eternal sundial
Skill issue
long stone
The slow climb up has begun, it is not high mid, as expected - but hey, give it ...
On boss dmg there is no climb xD floor without bottom
Ups its on german but you get what i mean
long stone
Here you can see it better now on english and heroic so more parses on dmg to boss + 95% best ones
I hope so much they do something a 20-30% buff to ranpage on your main tagrget or something, but what i know they will not touch classes enymore this Saison so lets hope for ww
fair star
what even happens when entangling hits you
It stuns u
mossy fox
just full send a 10% aura buff
fair star
Ive been victim to it
mossy fox
gg done everyone's happy
sullen basin
It stuns u
I play human im good lol
red berry
10% aura buff but buff rampage bigger
barren dagger
10% aura buff i've said it since ptr days
bitter palm
Here you can see it better now on english and heroic so more parses on dmg to bo...
sub is still bugged afaik and bosses die very fast so arcane wins
fair star
Can someone explain to my guildies how bad fury is
People saying alot of specs lost dps due to new tier
dense elbow
I rather see (4) be meaningfull buffed, or (2), than 10% aura buff - as goal it to make the tierset better - not to have S3 and S4 still able to compete 
bitter palm
fury needs number buffs
s3 focused on the only ability that is highly tuned
bloodbath
dense elbow
Bloodbath crits for 500k+ do feel good tho
mossy fox
realistically at this point it's either a lazy aura buff or nothing
dense elbow
Actual damage in the Fury Kit on the screen
mossy fox
it's fated season
bitter palm
Can someone explain to my guildies how bad fury is
fury always looks bad on boss damage cause fury actually has the ability to spec into aoe without losing all its st
sims wise fury is low middle on st
and fury also has the needed type of aoe for the fight which is burst
dense elbow
Next tier we gonna be slamming on meters, as top logs will get to pad a lot on certain bosses - bringing our overall skyhigh
fair star
fury always looks bad on boss damage cause fury actually has the ability to spec...
Last season it was top of the meters on logs
fair star
Next tier we gonna be slamming on meters, as top logs will get to pad a lot on c...
You mean tww?
bitter palm
it wasnt
fair star
dense elbow
Nah, Amirdrasil
dense elbow
Igeria, Gnarlroot, Fyrakk - all got huge AoE pad opportunities. If Tindral we can pad to the top
bitter palm
on boss damage fury was middle low middle despite being tuned pretty well on st
dense elbow
Lets be real tho, Fury should not be leading on ST - due to how it works
bitter palm
cause it was furys duty to deal eith spears on igira adds on larodar adds on fyrakk etc
dense elbow
Laro adds, forgot about em, note in the one above as well
so much pad in Amir
We gonna be skyrocketing on top logs, as they get to actually degen it
hardy cargo
best indicator is volc
no pad no damage amp just target dummy while standing in the correct spot
dense elbow
Ya know it is true
sullen basin
the only thing we have over arms is healing
dense elbow
We shall see, when Amir comes out
rapid stag
is it possible to macro reck and avatar together?
bitter palm
yes but why would u
dense elbow
you can, but pointless if you are using t4
hardy cargo
is it possible to macro reck and avatar together?
ye, what I do is have reck on its own bind then bake reck into avatar when I want to press them both together
bitter palm
ye, what I do is have reck on its own bind then bake reck into avatar when I wan...
this is the only non troll way to do it
hardy cargo
ya
bitter palm
there are packs where u want to hold ava but send reck and rav
hardy cargo
tldr u want avatar to cast reck not reck to cast avatar if that makes sense
rapid stag
yes but why would u
idk wowhead tells me to, i have berserker's tormet
rapid stag
hardy cargo
yeah so it circles back to what I said where if you macro them
you want avatar to cast reck not the other way around
hardy cargo
ya
red peak
Im really struggling with S2 Spec. God its different
rapid stag
sorry, very new to warr
hardy cargo
avatar gives reck
thats the differentiation between the sections of s3 and s4 talents just above where u snipped
is the talent bottom left of class tree
rapid stag
i have 2pc s3 tier at like 408 and 428 ilvl, its not worth saving that right?
over newer gear pieces
hardy cargo
the ilvls dont match, but regardless of the bonus if theyre that low ilvl theres no shot its worth wearing
unless, does like forbidden reach gear cata into s3? ive never catalyzed those pieces lmfao
tardy lark
over newer gear pieces
Not if you get like 30-40 ilvls from using another item I guess. This is mostly a sim question which doesn’t really seem relevant in your case
hardy cargo
if the ilvls arent a mistype or something the current ilvl is a no brainer equip
hell even mythic level s3 gear in the 480s
ripe stratus
why do i not want to bind avatar adn reck together?
hardy cargo
why do i not want to bind avatar adn reck together?
u dont always want to cast avatar with reck, but you always want to cast reck with avatar
tardy lark
u dont always want to cast avatar with reck, but you always want to cast reck wi...
That is a very eloquent way to put it, thank you
sullen basin
but reck goes down with rage spending and avatar doesnt, shouldnt it be the other way round wording wise
hardy cargo
That is a very eloquent way to put it, thank you
well idk how else to explain it ngl lmfao
you dont wanna press ava in every situation you might want to press recklessness
ig thats better
vast shadow
Is fyralath drop rate increased since s4?
tardy lark
Let me tell you about this talent called Uproar
ripe stratus
ah i don't have that
wraith wharf
wowhead talents generally are the good ones to take
ripe stratus
It has no uproar tho
hardy cargo
There’s a little flexibility there, if u want more dam take uproar if your group needs more cc take shockwave
Both are good
ripe stratus
But even then
I could still bind avatar and reck right?
I just press one or the other when they come up
or wait for them to sync
hardy cargo
You can macro reck into avatar but you shouldn’t macro avatar into reck
Because like said above there are situations you’ll want to press reck but not avatar
But very little to no situation you want to press avatar but not reck
The only time I do is like if I drop recklessness with reck/rav on cd for like 10 to 15 seconds to help me get it back faster
ripe stratus
Is there a situation you could share so I can understand better?
I am probably not seeing something here which is why I am not doing as much as I think I should.
Like small packs and not over sending both?
As there are sometimes I notice I still have buffs up but pack is dead
hardy cargo
Pretty much any time an important pull is coming up next, or a boss. But you can squeeze in a reck+rav before the current pack dies+ moving to the next one
ripe stratus
Ok
hardy cargo
I’m not at my PC so I can’t give grp numbers from MDT
But most recently I did this in HOI 2 pulls after the first boss, just before the 5 pack before arriving at the frog if that makes sense
ripe stratus
Yeah the containment units and the guys that cleave.
hardy cargo
We go left, so it’s like 2 mosquitos and a bunch of frogs but yeah, you get the point
hardy cargo
Ya we go up the stairs there
There’s also little things u can do like clearing snares with the activation of avatar
Think the magic debuff from the dragons in HOI
So on those even if I have full cds I won’t actually press avatar until after that debuff goes out to save a dispel for someone else
hardy cargo
Ya
ripe stratus
ok
so basically Reck + Rav
Avatar + roar
separate them
don't bind them.
Big pull align both and blast.
correct?
hardy cargo
U align them yeah, just try not to macro them together
If I’m playing uproar I just press roar on cd as long as full duration goes out on mobs
hardy cargo
np
oak garden
Questions for the Fury with new 4p and bit higher keys i have the feeling its dmg loose if i use the active from Fyralath what do you think?
split coyote
I like the thrill of popping it during big pulls risking death
unreal onyx
I think short-term dmg increase but mid-long term the use seems like a dmg loss bc we miss 1/2 ramps for AM
dense elbow
With enough targets, that should balance out no?
chrome plover
lego feels great to use atm imo
at least in keys
probably because its 535 and the rest of my gear is 510-520 though
dense elbow
Ye, it really helps that we got it early so it feels impactful due to it being so far ahead of the gearcurve
hardy cargo
I think short-term dmg increase but mid-long term the use seems like a dmg loss ...
the comparison in current gear is something like 400k-500k dam + 8s ish off reck/rav vs 990k on st on use
this is napkin math but seems worth to me
polar needle
Ripp and I can’t get over 200k feels bad
dense elbow
If you are having problems with your DPS, bring logs to #449510248579858432 and it should be fixed by some sage advice :)
summer quail
Ripp and I can’t get over 200k feels bad
i assume you're very undergeared
polar needle
i assume you're very undergeared
509
dense elbow
Ye, you need to go to Log review with logs or vods, asap
polar needle
All H 4set s4
summer quail
and you can't get over 200k overalls? ye send log asap
something is very very wrong then
polar needle
Nope highest I got was a nok 6 inch did like 198k
I’m headed into town now when I get home I’ll have to run some logs
dense elbow
Do that, we will fix whatever is going on for sure o7
summer quail
gonna say the most obvious things you prob aren't doing, use cds on cooldown. just press them, yes there are times where it's worth to hold but if you're doing that sort of damage just don't think about it
polar needle
So someone with some knowledge can tell me what I’m doing
summer quail
and rampage has prio over everything
polar needle
gonna say the most obvious things you prob aren't doing, use cds on cooldown. ju...
Oh now I full send all the time lol
dense elbow
200k is less than your singletarget alone should be - so something is going very very wrong
polar needle
Hell I don’t do no 200k st maybe 140
dense elbow
Yeah, we will look into that for sure - if nothing else, out of morbid curiousity
polar needle
lol ya I have pretty good gear and the right talents I don’t have the Lego or head enchant but everything else is solid
fair star
Send cds on cooldown use rampage everytime u get the rage and press bloodthrist once u have enough stacks for 90-100% crit chance
summer quail
wait i have to ask, are you using the right talents?
polar needle
The s4 ones either rav
fair star
Are you using whirlwind to cleave every ability
polar needle
Every fourth button
fair star
Send a picture of your tslent build
woven atlas
Nel +12, doing my best over here guys to keep the fury dream alive 😦 (still overtimed 3 seconds =))
dense elbow
Should've brought a real SP
woven atlas
this fucker died 6 times (7 deaths total)
woven atlas
If you were arms wouldve been tjmed
nah i am too stupid for arms
hardy cargo
if youve got a log of a dungeon or something it would help us out a lot more
polar needle
No unfortunately I don’t know how to do any of that stuff I just hit my face on the keyboard and hope I don’t die
While trying not to spill my beer it’s a task all in its own
hardy cargo
whats ur character name, might be able to find one on wcl
polar needle
Rippp
Yeah, I’ll have to find somebody to log Something for me this afternoon so I can figure it out so I don’t have to go back to my survival Hunter to do more damage than my tank
hardy cargo
hell yeah man get us a log of smth and we can help a lot more then youll be pumpin 🙂
polar needle
Helll ya brother
silver mantle
Fury rotation is a cakewalk, compared to arms
Especially this s4
AM/Rav and Avatar on CD, WW, spam Rampage, BT at near 100% crit
Meanwhile, I'm trying to learn Arms and it's priority this during that window, but if this happens then something else gets prio, also don't forget that the entirety of the rotation changes during SS and depending on how many targets you have, also below 35% execute changes the rotation
like... 🤯
hardy cargo
Tbh it’s really not so bad, I feel like a lot of people overcomplicate arms simply due to slight button bloat
dense elbow
Isnt it basically: Mortalstrike, no? Overpower
Sounds simlar to Rampage, no? Raging blow
rustic haven
Charge, Mortal Strike, Bladestorm was best gameplay
silver mantle
Idk, I guess I am just salty that I barely do 250k with Arms, while doing 350k as fury
upbeat sentinel
Can we get some of them buffs
clever belfry
Idk, I guess I am just salty that I barely do 250k with Arms, while doing 350k a...
you do more by literally pressing tc ww op cleave in random fashion
silver mantle
If only that were true brother
chrome summit
idk arms so well also i ust started but already doing more then i do atm on fury tbh
silver mantle
I'll probably get used to it soon but by then sub will run out and that will be the end of it
chrome summit
did same dung and as arms i did more then 100k more >.<
upbeat sentinel
imagine trusting blizzard when they said they'd tune the sets to be good
upbeat sentinel
fury fuck ok in m+ still
Don't we also get badly smashed by Arms there
meager void
i feel very competitive but im still at 12s atm so
unreal onyx
at least from my "feel" fury doesn't seem to be as down bad in m+ as it is in raid
fury was never the go-to m+ spec to begin with
but we still pulled our weight
severe juniper
what is the top trinkets siming right now for fury
rotund ginkgo
fury was never the go-to m+ spec to begin with
Hot take, it was
More than arms at least
unreal onyx
both warrior specs were generally one of the "worst" specs to play if you do m+
arms was worse than fury
rotund ginkgo
both warrior specs were generally one of the "worst" specs to play if you do m+
Yes, the relevance is within warrior specs
Ofc warr is dog either way
tame gorge
Hot take, it was
It absoultely was.
The passive cleave and survivability alone made it berrer than arms
rotund ginkgo
Ik
I'm saying his take was hot
Fury was almost always at least on df, the better m+ warr spec
Literally the only reason arms is better rn is just numbers
upbeat sentinel
Fury was almost always at least on df, the better m+ warr spec
Now the better M+ warr spec is Outlaw
rotund ginkgo
Now the better M+ warr spec is Outlaw
Now the better m+ warr spec is ret
upbeat sentinel
Now the better m+ warr spec is ret
Now the better m+ warr spec is any other class
upbeat sentinel
4set buffed from +30% dam per stack to +32%
spec saved
no but we do need help bad. Upgrading from old 4set to higher ilvl new 4set only giving like 1k dps gain is 💀
"We've disabled S3 tier sets as a solution"
rigid stirrup
4set buffed from +30% dam per stack to +32%
make it 50 and I think that'll actually be a decent cook